/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
RDOA4 will launch in March
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Perv: >>103983714
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
RDOA4 will launch in March
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Perv: >>103983714
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:40:17 No.103988125
first for mental illness op again
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:40:18 No.103988126
First for AMD is dead and gay and retarded and has no marketshare
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:40:39 No.103988128
>anime figures
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:41:34 No.103988140
>>103988104
https://youtu.be/qhTUGB-xBAI
https://youtu.be/qhTUGB-xBAI
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:41:39 No.103988141
>>103988126
eat shit israel shillbot you lose again
eat shit israel shillbot you lose again
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:45:01 No.103988168
>>103988141
>>103988126
>>103988125
>>103988128
On any other website you'd be banned right away. You're lucky you can get away with being a shitass, faggots.
>>103988126
>>103988125
>>103988128
On any other website you'd be banned right away. You're lucky you can get away with being a shitass, faggots.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:45:04 No.103988169
>>103988128
anime figures are the future of pc building the same way as rgb
anime figures are the future of pc building the same way as rgb
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:46:37 No.103988184
>>103988104
ew is that a stinky radeon?
ew is that a stinky radeon?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:49:33 No.103988214
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:49:55 No.103988221
>>103988168
just as along as you always remember that you are despised by everyone, only doing it for the attention and your life will finish at the end of a rope.
>tl;dr anime figures are not /g/ and you will never be a woman
just as along as you always remember that you are despised by everyone, only doing it for the attention and your life will finish at the end of a rope.
>tl;dr anime figures are not /g/ and you will never be a woman
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:51:15 No.103988231
Just remember that the people who put rgb lights and anime figures in their pc build pay money for drugs that will chemically castrate them eventually.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:55:13 No.103988257
on a scale of 1-10, how retarded would it be to buy this card right now? I mainly play old shit on my rx580 but I want to be able to play the new elden ring game at 1440p on linux. The game doesn't even have a release date although most people are expecting a summer release. my cpu is an i5 10400 with 16gb of 2666 ram. no I don't take estrogen.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:56:45 No.103988282
>>103988168
this post confirms the nvidia shill is the trans schizo shitting up the op with its mental health issues
this post confirms the nvidia shill is the trans schizo shitting up the op with its mental health issues
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:57:06 No.103988286
>>103988221
The very same thing awaits you, closet homo.
The very same thing awaits you, closet homo.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:57:40 No.103988291
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:58:29 No.103988297
>>103988126
Leave AMD alone.
Leave AMD alone.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:59:44 No.103988311
>>103988291
haha mine says 'pu se' in the dark.
haha mine says 'pu se' in the dark.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:00:03 No.103988314
>>103988286
>i suck dick therefore everyone else does
this is mental illness personified, a desperate cry for attention, and off-topic
>i suck dick therefore everyone else does
this is mental illness personified, a desperate cry for attention, and off-topic
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:00:19 No.103988316
LOL AMDip AMDead AMDick AMDoofus
AMD IS FUCKING OVER 9070XT FOR 599 HAHAHAHA
AMD IS FUCKING OVER 9070XT FOR 599 HAHAHAHA
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:02:47 No.103988333
Why did no one tell me the Dualsense is the best PC controller ?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:03:21 No.103988337
>>103988316
your big nose is sticking out
your big nose is sticking out
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:06:03 No.103988368
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:10:53 No.103988402
>>103988282
why do AMDdrones have to turn every thread into a vaguely /pol/ one?
why do AMDdrones have to turn every thread into a vaguely /pol/ one?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:18:11 No.103988456
>>103988402
Because nvidia shills have some sort of disease where they equate not worshiping their brand with anti-semitism
Because nvidia shills have some sort of disease where they equate not worshiping their brand with anti-semitism
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:18:57 No.103988464
>>103988257
I personally can't believe prices in the sub-$400 market are going to get worse instead of better the longer you wait as the 9070 / XT after release in March alongside the 5070/5060 should put downward pressure on the RX 7000 series, especially if the only game you'd want the new card is months away from an actual release date.
If you don't mind used, the non-XT 6800 is available for ~$360 shipped which is 9% more expensive than the 6750XT sure but has an extra 4GB of VRAM with 17% more performance according to TPU making it a better deal:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6750-xt.c3879
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276809905135?_skw=6800&epid=7042953987
As far as new cards-only though for Linux, that is a good deal though.
I personally can't believe prices in the sub-$400 market are going to get worse instead of better the longer you wait as the 9070 / XT after release in March alongside the 5070/5060 should put downward pressure on the RX 7000 series, especially if the only game you'd want the new card is months away from an actual release date.
If you don't mind used, the non-XT 6800 is available for ~$360 shipped which is 9% more expensive than the 6750XT sure but has an extra 4GB of VRAM with 17% more performance according to TPU making it a better deal:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spe
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2768099051
As far as new cards-only though for Linux, that is a good deal though.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:22:12 No.103988496
budget chads
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:23:32 No.103988508
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:24:18 No.103988514
>>103988508
league of legends
league of legends
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:27:25 No.103988539
>>103988508
you have to understand that shitholes like russia have people live off like 5k $ a year and being able to play ps3 era games is better than nothing
you have to understand that shitholes like russia have people live off like 5k $ a year and being able to play ps3 era games is better than nothing
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:27:49 No.103988544
>>103988104
>2019
>Mice last four years
>2023 - 2025
>Fifth mouse died on me tonight
This shit is getting worse every fucking year. Fuck Logitech Ryzer and HP.
>2019
>Mice last four years
>2023 - 2025
>Fifth mouse died on me tonight
This shit is getting worse every fucking year. Fuck Logitech Ryzer and HP.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:31:42 No.103988589
>50 series looks like shit
>don't even feel the need to needlessly consoom and upgrade for no fucking reason
TYBJ
>don't even feel the need to needlessly consoom and upgrade for no fucking reason
TYBJ
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:35:26 No.103988627
>>103988126
I will buy a 9070XT just to piss you insufferable shills in the face.
If it costs no more than €600 that is.
I will buy a 9070XT just to piss you insufferable shills in the face.
If it costs no more than €600 that is.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:37:37 No.103988651
>>103988333
Probably because it isn't.
Probably because it isn't.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:39:09 No.103988662
>>103988464
thanks for the good advice. I'll just wait. As for a used card, unless it's from someone I know I'd rather not. I'll see what my coworkers are up to.
thanks for the good advice. I'll just wait. As for a used card, unless it's from someone I know I'd rather not. I'll see what my coworkers are up to.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:58:35 No.103988846
>>103988651
What other controller has a touchpad clitty , microphone input , gyro , rumble and is just works© plug and play™ with usb and Bluetooth?
The only downside is no 2.4ghz dongle for ultra low latency but that can be easily forgiven
What other controller has a touchpad clitty , microphone input , gyro , rumble and is just works© plug and play™ with usb and Bluetooth?
The only downside is no 2.4ghz dongle for ultra low latency but that can be easily forgiven
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:02:39 No.103988889
>>103988846
>just works© plug and play™
Is it? I thought it wouldn't be that easy. Also, hall effect joysticks I guess would be my main point of content here.
>just works© plug and play™
Is it? I thought it wouldn't be that easy. Also, hall effect joysticks I guess would be my main point of content here.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:07:57 No.103988947
how chilly can it get before things start becoming problematic?(besides freezing)
I moved my PC into my garage rack and im debating if I should create some sort of enclosure to let it keeps itself a bit warmer.
I moved my PC into my garage rack and im debating if I should create some sort of enclosure to let it keeps itself a bit warmer.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:11:09 No.103988974
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:12:09 No.103988987
>>103988947
As long as you don't hit 0*C where condensation on the warm-up can become an issue things should be fine.
As long as you don't hit 0*C where condensation on the warm-up can become an issue things should be fine.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:23:26 No.103989085
Just found out that even though I'm using the supposed best settings for my AW3423DWF, the reds, even the purest #ff0000 red, appears as fucking orange and that's what was driving me crazy these past few weeks
Anyone experience this and manage to solve it? I heard I need to lower brightness (nope, just looks like dimmer orange), or that it's an unsolvable issue with sRGB and you either deal with that or you deal with DCI-P3's oversaturated trash.
No, I don't have that auto-install ICC profile from Dell, I removed it, but there are still a few more profiles that were already there (picrel)
Anyone experience this and manage to solve it? I heard I need to lower brightness (nope, just looks like dimmer orange), or that it's an unsolvable issue with sRGB and you either deal with that or you deal with DCI-P3's oversaturated trash.
No, I don't have that auto-install ICC profile from Dell, I removed it, but there are still a few more profiles that were already there (picrel)
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:25:59 No.103989107
>>103988889
Ya me too , was pleasantly surprised Sony itself made effort to fully support it in Linux .
>Hall effect
I have a handheld with hall effect stick and honestly I can't tell the difference but so many people swear by them so I guess its just preference
>>103988974
Ya I guess all the features add up to more weight.
I used to use Xbox one controllers since they have better latency but the lack of gyro makes too many games unplayable if you emulate , also the dongle is garbage in many ways .
Ya me too , was pleasantly surprised Sony itself made effort to fully support it in Linux .
>Hall effect
I have a handheld with hall effect stick and honestly I can't tell the difference but so many people swear by them so I guess its just preference
>>103988974
Ya I guess all the features add up to more weight.
I used to use Xbox one controllers since they have better latency but the lack of gyro makes too many games unplayable if you emulate , also the dongle is garbage in many ways .
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:37:45 No.103989218
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:47:52 No.103989303
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:52:41 No.103989350
>>103989218
And 5070ti will sell for $1000
I will take a $600-700 9070XT because we are in cuck cattle world and with only two companies in a cartel making acceptable GPUs there is nothing that can be done about it
And 5070ti will sell for $1000
I will take a $600-700 9070XT because we are in cuck cattle world and with only two companies in a cartel making acceptable GPUs there is nothing that can be done about it
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:56:19 No.103989386
I love AMD
https://youtu.be/4b3DrLXYt2g
https://youtu.be/4b3DrLXYt2g
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:57:30 No.103989396
>>103989085
>Just found out that even though I'm using the supposed best settings for my AW3423DWF, the reds, even the purest #ff0000 red, appears as fucking orange and that's what was driving me crazy these past few weeks
Is your Displayport cable rated for the full bandwidth of the monitor input (DP 1.4)? Have you tried lowering the refresh rate to 100Hz with something like CRU and using the native 10-bit color of the panel instead of 8-bit @ 165Hz that the Dell defaults to? Is both your display settings in Windows and in the GPU Driver set to Full RGB (0-255) instead of Limited RGB (16-235)?
>No, I don't have that auto-install ICC profile from Dell, I removed it, but there are still a few more profiles that were already there (picrel)
Tried RTINGS's profile?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423dwf#test_1468
If those don't fix it, you may have a bad factory calibration and if you don't want to buy a colorimeter (they are like $30-40 used on Ebay) to perform a full hardware color calibration you CAN get away with eyeballing the correct white balance by adjusting the individual RGB gain values against a common sheet of white office paper as a reference with the sRGB gamut clamp disabled like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4
If you do go the hardware route you can then use a supported colorimeter from the list below:
https://displaycal.net/#requirements
in conjunction with freeware automatic calibration software DisplayCal to get real-time measurements of the RGB balance as you adjust them and generate a personal monitor color profile that can autoload on startup like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2nVNxx1IHo
>Just found out that even though I'm using the supposed best settings for my AW3423DWF, the reds, even the purest #ff0000 red, appears as fucking orange and that's what was driving me crazy these past few weeks
Is your Displayport cable rated for the full bandwidth of the monitor input (DP 1.4)? Have you tried lowering the refresh rate to 100Hz with something like CRU and using the native 10-bit color of the panel instead of 8-bit @ 165Hz that the Dell defaults to? Is both your display settings in Windows and in the GPU Driver set to Full RGB (0-255) instead of Limited RGB (16-235)?
>No, I don't have that auto-install ICC profile from Dell, I removed it, but there are still a few more profiles that were already there (picrel)
Tried RTINGS's profile?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revi
If those don't fix it, you may have a bad factory calibration and if you don't want to buy a colorimeter (they are like $30-40 used on Ebay) to perform a full hardware color calibration you CAN get away with eyeballing the correct white balance by adjusting the individual RGB gain values against a common sheet of white office paper as a reference with the sRGB gamut clamp disabled like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJ
If you do go the hardware route you can then use a supported colorimeter from the list below:
https://displaycal.net/#requirement
in conjunction with freeware automatic calibration software DisplayCal to get real-time measurements of the RGB balance as you adjust them and generate a personal monitor color profile that can autoload on startup like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2n
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:59:01 No.103989410
>>103989386
kek
kek
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:02:57 No.103989447
>>103989386
I look , act and smell like this
I look , act and smell like this
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:05:30 No.103989466
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:18:31 No.103989551
>>103989396
>DP 1.4?
yep
>Throttling Hz to get 10bit?
Haven't done that yet. You seem knowledgeable: is that worth my time setting up?
>RTING's profile?
I never knew exactly how to work with their ratings.
I would assume I should follow the post-calibration settings, but it actually has a slightly worse rating post-calibration than pre-calibration, if that makes any sense. Have to assume the fact that it got worse post-calibration is because the Creator setting can't change RGB, and the Custom Color setting can't change gamma, which is fucking retarded
And when you say "profile", do you mean just their settings (97-98-100) or BOTH their settings (97-98-100) AND their downloadable ICC profile? Because even RTINGs recommends that you shouldn't install it.
In any case, I think I will follow their post-calibration setting (with a higher brightness). Ostensibly a slightly worse result, but just the fact that the red's actually red on that mode makes me believe it's the better choice.
>DP 1.4?
yep
>Throttling Hz to get 10bit?
Haven't done that yet. You seem knowledgeable: is that worth my time setting up?
>RTING's profile?
I never knew exactly how to work with their ratings.
I would assume I should follow the post-calibration settings, but it actually has a slightly worse rating post-calibration than pre-calibration, if that makes any sense. Have to assume the fact that it got worse post-calibration is because the Creator setting can't change RGB, and the Custom Color setting can't change gamma, which is fucking retarded
And when you say "profile", do you mean just their settings (97-98-100) or BOTH their settings (97-98-100) AND their downloadable ICC profile? Because even RTINGs recommends that you shouldn't install it.
In any case, I think I will follow their post-calibration setting (with a higher brightness). Ostensibly a slightly worse result, but just the fact that the red's actually red on that mode makes me believe it's the better choice.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:20:28 No.103989573
>>103989386
this general anthem
this general anthem
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:24:44 No.103989596
>>103989386
delete this sar
delete this sar
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:26:10 No.103989605
I upgraded my machine a few months back, now I'm wondering if I should have got the Ryzen 5 7600X instead of the 5600X. I am happy with the machine, it's still leagues ahead of my old FX-6300, but you look at that extra 20% and wonder, "hmm". Another hundered bucks though. I did other good upgrades with the leftover budget. IDK, what would you anons have done? A little more processing power, or would you use the 100 bucks to get something else for the machine?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:34:49 No.103989660
>>103989605
>FX-6300
>The AMD FX-6300 was released on October 23, 2012
what the fuck?
what type of boomer shit is this? what did you do with that older rig?
>FX-6300
>The AMD FX-6300 was released on October 23, 2012
what the fuck?
what type of boomer shit is this? what did you do with that older rig?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:38:27 No.103989686
>>103989605
There are two ways to look at it
You could have gone with AM5 for upgradeability
or
Be happy with what you have and feel at peace in the knowledge it'll last you many years like your old one
There are two ways to look at it
You could have gone with AM5 for upgradeability
or
Be happy with what you have and feel at peace in the knowledge it'll last you many years like your old one
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:39:34 No.103989690
>>103989605
yeah you fucked up
if not for the 20% performance, the 7600x also supports avx512 which will let it age really well just like the 4790k with avx2 did.
yeah you fucked up
if not for the 20% performance, the 7600x also supports avx512 which will let it age really well just like the 4790k with avx2 did.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:44:50 No.103989723
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:45:24 No.103989726
>>103989605
should have gotten the 5700x3d you numb nutts
should have gotten the 5700x3d you numb nutts
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:45:28 No.103989727
>>103989660
>what type of boomer shit is this?
Oh don't worry, it gets worse. I was using a 1050 Ti the whole time and the case's fans were loud. That thing was ancient, but goddamn did it run. It did a good job for a good 8 years. But eventually you get worried about parts starting to fail and you want something custom made instead of the ol prebuilt.
>what did you do with that older rig?
I hucked a laptop HDD into it and turned it into the scumputer from a few threads back. I'm thinking of using it to play around with other OS's.
>>103989686
Yeah, probably should have gone AM5 but I used the money on getting better other parts instead. I don't think I'll need to replace the machine outright for a good while.
>>103989690
Yeah, maybe. It was my first PC build, I didn't want to make it use too much more power, just kind of make a more modern analogue of my old one with some nicer features. (Like near-silent fans)
>what type of boomer shit is this?
Oh don't worry, it gets worse. I was using a 1050 Ti the whole time and the case's fans were loud. That thing was ancient, but goddamn did it run. It did a good job for a good 8 years. But eventually you get worried about parts starting to fail and you want something custom made instead of the ol prebuilt.
>what did you do with that older rig?
I hucked a laptop HDD into it and turned it into the scumputer from a few threads back. I'm thinking of using it to play around with other OS's.
>>103989686
Yeah, probably should have gone AM5 but I used the money on getting better other parts instead. I don't think I'll need to replace the machine outright for a good while.
>>103989690
Yeah, maybe. It was my first PC build, I didn't want to make it use too much more power, just kind of make a more modern analogue of my old one with some nicer features. (Like near-silent fans)
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:45:50 No.103989729
>>103989551
>Haven't done that yet. You seem knowledgeable: is that worth my time setting up?
Might be worth a shot and you can always reset it to the default. QD-OLEDs are native 10-bit depth panels unlike most LCDs that are native 8-bit + FRC dithering at best, so even if it doesn't fix your colors at least it can reduce banding in content and improve smooth color gradation transitions.
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQxTIEbAMs
Is your monitor's firmware up to date (latest is M3B107 from April 2024)?
https://www.dell.com/support/product-details/en-us/product/aw3423dwf-monitor/drivers
Also did you try messing with Source Tone Map and Console Mode options, and make sure HDR is disabled in Windows?
>And when you say "profile", do you mean just their settings (97-98-100) or BOTH their settings (97-98-100) AND their downloadable ICC profile? Because even RTINGs recommends that you shouldn't install it.
If you aren't happy with your factory default Red might as well try them both and if it doesn't help just factory reset to the default settings to wipe theirs and delete the ICC profile.
>In any case, I think I will follow their post-calibration setting (with a higher brightness). Ostensibly a slightly worse result, but just the fact that the red's actually red on that mode makes me believe it's the better choice.
That's good, also do the office paper white reference check by eye (better to do this at night with no other lights on in the room beside the monitor).
>Haven't done that yet. You seem knowledgeable: is that worth my time setting up?
Might be worth a shot and you can always reset it to the default. QD-OLEDs are native 10-bit depth panels unlike most LCDs that are native 8-bit + FRC dithering at best, so even if it doesn't fix your colors at least it can reduce banding in content and improve smooth color gradation transitions.
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQ
Is your monitor's firmware up to date (latest is M3B107 from April 2024)?
https://www.dell.com/support/produc
Also did you try messing with Source Tone Map and Console Mode options, and make sure HDR is disabled in Windows?
>And when you say "profile", do you mean just their settings (97-98-100) or BOTH their settings (97-98-100) AND their downloadable ICC profile? Because even RTINGs recommends that you shouldn't install it.
If you aren't happy with your factory default Red might as well try them both and if it doesn't help just factory reset to the default settings to wipe theirs and delete the ICC profile.
>In any case, I think I will follow their post-calibration setting (with a higher brightness). Ostensibly a slightly worse result, but just the fact that the red's actually red on that mode makes me believe it's the better choice.
That's good, also do the office paper white reference check by eye (better to do this at night with no other lights on in the room beside the monitor).
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:46:25 No.103989732
>>103989660
not him but I had a FX 6100 lol showing my age breh, women want BMC (Big Millenial Cock)
not him but I had a FX 6100 lol showing my age breh, women want BMC (Big Millenial Cock)
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:50:29 No.103989762
RELEASE THE FUCKING REVIEWS SO I CAN PICK UP A 4090 PANIC SALE
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:54:44 No.103989790
WHERE IS IT WHERE IS THE 5090
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:00:13 No.103989822
>>103989762
I can't imagine selling a 4090 until I have a 5090 in my hands
imagine being one of those people who sells theirs and can't get one for months
I can't imagine selling a 4090 until I have a 5090 in my hands
imagine being one of those people who sells theirs and can't get one for months
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:01:04 No.103989830
>>103989790
at your local microcenter (AIB only tho)
at your local microcenter (AIB only tho)
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:05:22 No.103989859
>>103989727
You seem like the type of person who will let their system sit for a long, long time. I wouldn't regret your decision if that is the case.
You seem like the type of person who will let their system sit for a long, long time. I wouldn't regret your decision if that is the case.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:05:55 No.103989865
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:06:29 No.103989871
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Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:10:49 No.103989913
Thoughts on the 10700K in 2025 for 1440p gaming? I might be able to snag one (with mobo + ram) super cheap from a friend. Would probably pair it with a mid tier gpu
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:11:49 No.103989917
>>103989859
Ya, as long as it works it's good enough for me, it was more of a "well, might as well" kind of thing. Saving up for it and then black friday purchases and whatnot.
Ya, as long as it works it's good enough for me, it was more of a "well, might as well" kind of thing. Saving up for it and then black friday purchases and whatnot.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:21:50 No.103989982
I'm tired at looking at intel and amd CPUs. Most people recommend I go with a high core count CPU for video editing and streaming, because my current CPU can't keep up, but the only options are AMD's power hungry neutered CPUs and Intel's power hungry heat stroke inducing CPUs and THEN comes the choice of motherboard. It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:23:04 No.103989989
Where can I get a 5090 FE that ships internationally? I live in a shithole country.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:24:44 No.103990005
>>103989982
Intel and AMD will have practically identical performance, but the Intel chip will make your room uncomfortably warm
Intel and AMD will have practically identical performance, but the Intel chip will make your room uncomfortably warm
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:26:54 No.103990023
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:32:36 No.103990072
All right so yesterday I was having issues with ASRock board failing to boot with G.Skill RAM and 9800x3d. Seems like this has been a common issue for others as well. I was only able to reliably pass POST with just 1 (of 2) ram stick in B2.
After updating ASRock x870 bios to 1.16 and adding the second ram stick to A2 I was able to boot and turn EXPO on, and I haven't had any further issues, so far.
I still don't have an OS installed but EXPO settings are on and I got 2 passes in memtest so far. I'll leave it running for 24hrs but it seems like the BIOS update solved the problem.
The only relevant thing I could find in the release notes were something to do with updating to AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2b, so I think that might have been what was missing.
After updating ASRock x870 bios to 1.16 and adding the second ram stick to A2 I was able to boot and turn EXPO on, and I haven't had any further issues, so far.
I still don't have an OS installed but EXPO settings are on and I got 2 passes in memtest so far. I'll leave it running for 24hrs but it seems like the BIOS update solved the problem.
The only relevant thing I could find in the release notes were something to do with updating to AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2b, so I think that might have been what was missing.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:41:22 No.103990127
>>103989913
>Thoughts on the 10700K in 2025 for 1440p gaming? I might be able to snag one (with mobo + ram) super cheap from a friend.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k/21.html
Will depend on what games you play (CP2077, and MMOs can be tough) and how cheap the package bundle is. Also how much you do you like your friend?
For reference the 10700K gets ~119 fps in this chart from above, and buying new the 7500F when PBO is enabled in BIOS is with 5-7% of the 7600X on the chart (so ~151-158 fps or 27-33% more performance) for $134 on Aliexpress and gives you a upgrade path to a used 7800X3D/9800X3D etc years out:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807544277684.html
Selecting a cheap compatible mobo, cooler (since the CPU is a tray unit without), and 32GB of DDR5 RAM = ~$336 for the price of entry
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xgtwqH
>Thoughts on the 10700K in 2025 for 1440p gaming? I might be able to snag one (with mobo + ram) super cheap from a friend.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
Will depend on what games you play (CP2077, and MMOs can be tough) and how cheap the package bundle is. Also how much you do you like your friend?
For reference the 10700K gets ~119 fps in this chart from above, and buying new the 7500F when PBO is enabled in BIOS is with 5-7% of the 7600X on the chart (so ~151-158 fps or 27-33% more performance) for $134 on Aliexpress and gives you a upgrade path to a used 7800X3D/9800X3D etc years out:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256
Selecting a cheap compatible mobo, cooler (since the CPU is a tray unit without), and 32GB of DDR5 RAM = ~$336 for the price of entry
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xgtwq
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:46:22 No.103990164
>>103988589
4090 is future for years to come stop coonsooming
4090 is future for years to come stop coonsooming
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:47:46 No.103990173
>>103990127
>>103989913
>Will depend on what games you play (CP2077, and MMOs can be tough) and how cheap the package bundle is. Also how much you do you like your friend?
>For reference the 10700K gets ~119 fps in this chart from above, and buying new the 7500F when PBO is enabled in BIOS is with 5-7% of the 7600X on the chart (so ~151-158 fps or 27-33% more performance) for $134 on Aliexpress and gives you a upgrade path to a used 7800X3D/9800X3D etc years out:
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807544277684.html
>Selecting a cheap compatible mobo, cooler (since the CPU is a tray unit without), and 32GB of DDR5 RAM = ~$336 for the price of entry
In other words if he's selling it to you for between $221 to 245 it's worth considering, if less than that take the friend deal, and if more that you are better off buying new.
This all assumes the friends's included RAM is 32GB, if it's a 2xGB (16GB) kit it'll need to be even cheaper to have equivalent value. Also I assume a cooler is included with the friend's deal as well.
>>103989913
>Will depend on what games you play (CP2077, and MMOs can be tough) and how cheap the package bundle is. Also how much you do you like your friend?
>For reference the 10700K gets ~119 fps in this chart from above, and buying new the 7500F when PBO is enabled in BIOS is with 5-7% of the 7600X on the chart (so ~151-158 fps or 27-33% more performance) for $134 on Aliexpress and gives you a upgrade path to a used 7800X3D/9800X3D etc years out:
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/325
>Selecting a cheap compatible mobo, cooler (since the CPU is a tray unit without), and 32GB of DDR5 RAM = ~$336 for the price of entry
In other words if he's selling it to you for between $221 to 245 it's worth considering, if less than that take the friend deal, and if more that you are better off buying new.
This all assumes the friends's included RAM is 32GB, if it's a 2xGB (16GB) kit it'll need to be even cheaper to have equivalent value. Also I assume a cooler is included with the friend's deal as well.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:49:49 No.103990184
>>103989989
I'm in the same situation, I haven't found a way that doesn't involve some kind of freight forwarding service but I don't trust those things, plus the fees are ridiculous for me even more so than shipping + duties
I'm in the same situation, I haven't found a way that doesn't involve some kind of freight forwarding service but I don't trust those things, plus the fees are ridiculous for me even more so than shipping + duties
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:54:10 No.103990223
>vertically mounted GPUs
but why?
but why?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:59:18 No.103990259
>>103990164
5090 is more of a future proof card thoughbeit
5090 is more of a future proof card thoughbeit
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:00:40 No.103990269
>>103990223
aesthetics
aesthetics
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:05:13 No.103990317
>>103990223
Narrow case?
Narrow case?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:12:37 No.103990359
where would you put a boom mic? im thinking about getting one on marketplace, its just for playing games
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:16:54 No.103990385
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:21:43 No.103990405
>>103990223
no sag
potentially better thermals
the gpu cooler looks better than random mobo parts in the case
no sag
potentially better thermals
the gpu cooler looks better than random mobo parts in the case
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:23:56 No.103990418
>>103990359
no, no one sells individual coasters, im not buying a full set of 5-6
no, no one sells individual coasters, im not buying a full set of 5-6
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:27:20 No.103990440
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:57:15 No.103990642
If you weren't a burger flipping wagie what would be your dream PC case?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:04:59 No.103990716
>>103990642
I like the OP post wrap around glass design, maybe throw in a mini display somewhere too
I like the OP post wrap around glass design, maybe throw in a mini display somewhere too
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:28:18 No.103990873
>>103988104
I don't get why worship a box that preforms algorithms for your screen?
I don't get why worship a box that preforms algorithms for your screen?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:34:01 No.103990906
>>103990127
>>103990173
It's for ~$175. I don't really need it but the temptation to do a mid-tower build to replace my aging short tower build is strong. Microcenter has the 7600X bundle for $299 but I really want ATX for this build and apparently there's not substitutions, so I'd have to buy a la carte which adds up to $370.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/674517/amd-ryzen-5-7600-raphael-am5-38ghz-6-core-boxed-processor-wraith-stealth-cooler-included
https://www.microcenter.com/product/660139/asrock-b650-pg-lighting-amd-am5-atx-motherboard
https://www.microcenter.com/product/682530/gskill-flare-x5-series-16gb-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl32-single-channel-desktop-memory-module-f5-6000j3238f16gx1-fx5-black
>>103990173
It's for ~$175. I don't really need it but the temptation to do a mid-tower build to replace my aging short tower build is strong. Microcenter has the 7600X bundle for $299 but I really want ATX for this build and apparently there's not substitutions, so I'd have to buy a la carte which adds up to $370.
https://www.microcenter.com/product
https://www.microcenter.com/product
https://www.microcenter.com/product
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:40:22 No.103990946
>>103990906
for clarity, the 7600x and 9600x bundles come with microatx boards, you have to go up to the 7700x bundle for atx. And actually now that I look at that bundle I might as well go with that, all I trade is asrock for gigabyte... This is retarded autistic fixation I do not need to spend money on this shit right now.
for clarity, the 7600x and 9600x bundles come with microatx boards, you have to go up to the 7700x bundle for atx. And actually now that I look at that bundle I might as well go with that, all I trade is asrock for gigabyte... This is retarded autistic fixation I do not need to spend money on this shit right now.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:41:36 No.103990953
>>103990716
I agree with you on wrapped around cases, this one in particular piques my interest
I'm having a thought time on choosing practicality or aesthetics for example case like the flow h9 for practicality or aesthetics like the jonsbo/fractal north
I agree with you on wrapped around cases, this one in particular piques my interest
I'm having a thought time on choosing practicality or aesthetics for example case like the flow h9 for practicality or aesthetics like the jonsbo/fractal north
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:48:02 No.103991007
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:51:47 No.103991037
>>103990642
I'ma keep on flippin..
I'ma keep on flippin..
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:06:22 No.103991153
>>103990642
The only limiting factor for me is desk space because I don't have a proper desk at the moment and have my tower and monitor on top of a sturdy oak dresser.
Otherwise I would have gotten one of those newfangled terrarium-style cases. They're too fat to fit behind my monitor or to the side of it.
I would also take a case that uses real wood furniture and goes all in on the 70's home electronic aesthetic.
The only limiting factor for me is desk space because I don't have a proper desk at the moment and have my tower and monitor on top of a sturdy oak dresser.
Otherwise I would have gotten one of those newfangled terrarium-style cases. They're too fat to fit behind my monitor or to the side of it.
I would also take a case that uses real wood furniture and goes all in on the 70's home electronic aesthetic.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:42:23 No.103991411
4090 looking pretty slow now desu
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:52:01 No.103991484
>>103991411
Oh, wow, how informative I sure do love graphics score
Oh, wow, how informative I sure do love graphics score
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:53:28 No.103991492
>>103991484
5090 scored 100% on all tests amazing.
5090 scored 100% on all tests amazing.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:54:31 No.103991496
>>103991411
amazing
amazing
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:54:54 No.103991499
Why is it so hard to find information on actual gpu performance? Everything is 4k this ray tracing that. Who cares? its not like anyone who is not taking female hormones is going to sit infront of a computer all day to play single player games and jack off at resolutions. Even if someone did, 100 fps is plenty and most people can't see the difference in a lot of ultra settings.
What is all this frame gen nonsense. Literally cuck technology
What is all this frame gen nonsense. Literally cuck technology
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:56:36 No.103991510
Will the Rx 7900xtx be bottleneck enough by my 5700x3d to not make the price increase over the 7900xt not worth it?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:03:39 No.103991554
>>103991499
1440p is true and tried non this cock sucking 4k ray tracking . whatever yada yada amirite
1440p is true and tried non this cock sucking 4k ray tracking . whatever yada yada amirite
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:10:04 No.103991591
if 21 inch monitor feels too small right now, would a 24 inch monitor also feel small?
trying to decide between 23.8-24.5 inch or 26.5-27 inch
forget about ppi and resolution, just need advice about size
trying to decide between 23.8-24.5 inch or 26.5-27 inch
forget about ppi and resolution, just need advice about size
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:13:07 No.103991607
>>103991510
depends on title, but generally speaking yeah. my 5800x3d was bottlenecking my xtx pretty hard during the monster hunter wilds beta for instance
depends on title, but generally speaking yeah. my 5800x3d was bottlenecking my xtx pretty hard during the monster hunter wilds beta for instance
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:14:40 No.103991620
>>103991499
Reviewers don't actually play any games, this is why benchmarks are always ran on nonsensical settings(ALL GIGA ULTRA, even when some of the settings literally do nothing except lower the fps). They don't really even benchmark either, they just press "run" on a script and the computer makes bar-graphs for them.
>super popular new multiplayer game comes out (poe2)
>no bench-marker uses it on reviews because there is no easy way to automate the benchmark
Lets say you are buying a budged card and want to play to play this game, the relevant information doesn't exist. Meanwhile 20 different sites have tested how arcb570 run gigaultraraytracing cyberpunk.
Reviewers don't actually play any games, this is why benchmarks are always ran on nonsensical settings(ALL GIGA ULTRA, even when some of the settings literally do nothing except lower the fps). They don't really even benchmark either, they just press "run" on a script and the computer makes bar-graphs for them.
>super popular new multiplayer game comes out (poe2)
>no bench-marker uses it on reviews because there is no easy way to automate the benchmark
Lets say you are buying a budged card and want to play to play this game, the relevant information doesn't exist. Meanwhile 20 different sites have tested how arcb570 run gigaultraraytracing cyberpunk.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:20:25 No.103991655
>>103991591
size is very much personal preference and distance from screen
size is very much personal preference and distance from screen
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:21:04 No.103991660
>>103988104
https://youtu.be/-4oSpciE5ow
https://youtu.be/-4oSpciE5ow
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:22:00 No.103991668
New SFF build, coming from an old Intel DDR4 build, want to play Space Marine 2 at 4k120 on my TV;
Is a 9600X paired with a 5070 sufficient? Space Marine 2 has DLSS 3 framegen, so presumably it will be able to insert fake frame to take an approx 90fps up to 120fps?
From what I can gather, the 9600X is a good SFF CPU as it runs cooler than the 7000-series. And an AM5 B850 board should provide an upgrade path to 10000 Ryzen.
Is a 9600X paired with a 5070 sufficient? Space Marine 2 has DLSS 3 framegen, so presumably it will be able to insert fake frame to take an approx 90fps up to 120fps?
From what I can gather, the 9600X is a good SFF CPU as it runs cooler than the 7000-series. And an AM5 B850 board should provide an upgrade path to 10000 Ryzen.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:23:19 No.103991676
rate my new psu i ordered
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:24:22 No.103991680
I lost like 1000 graphics score in Timespy in just a month and I have no idea why
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:24:55 No.103991686
>>103991676
fjord/10
fjord/10
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:26:10 No.103991693
>>103991655
even at close distances 21 is too small
20 inches away from display, what size is comfortable?
even at close distances 21 is too small
20 inches away from display, what size is comfortable?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:28:41 No.103991705
>>103991680
could be 3 things: stuff opened in the background, updated but worse drivers or, most likely, increased temps due to dust or paste pump out or increased temperature in the room.
could be 3 things: stuff opened in the background, updated but worse drivers or, most likely, increased temps due to dust or paste pump out or increased temperature in the room.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:30:33 No.103991711
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:31:04 No.103991713
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:32:59 No.103991721
>>103991713
is it ? please tell me why so i can cancel
this is my first pc upgrade in many many years
my current pc is a pentium core 2 duo and a 8800ultra gpu thought i start gaming again
is it ? please tell me why so i can cancel
this is my first pc upgrade in many many years
my current pc is a pentium core 2 duo and a 8800ultra gpu thought i start gaming again
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:34:32 No.103991728
>>103991607
Damn, all I want is to play black myth at 60fps native res at 1440p without buying a new mobo.
Damn, all I want is to play black myth at 60fps native res at 1440p without buying a new mobo.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:43:07 No.103991777
>>103991721
its a supposed leaked 800w prototype board, at worst you can use an adapter for one connection, assuming you plan on paying $2500 for a theoretical 5090ti
its a supposed leaked 800w prototype board, at worst you can use an adapter for one connection, assuming you plan on paying $2500 for a theoretical 5090ti
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:44:53 No.103991785
What's the best way to back up windows. Internal options seem a bit shit as usual.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:45:55 No.103991791
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:47:13 No.103991800
>>103991791
So you say I should sing into Microsoft and use one drive. Not very based.
So you say I should sing into Microsoft and use one drive. Not very based.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:47:59 No.103991807
>>103990946
Save your money for something else (new monitor maybe if don't already have an OLED).
Save your money for something else (new monitor maybe if don't already have an OLED).
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:48:56 No.103991812
>>103991620
I don't even care about budget. I am just tired of not getting a decent idea on what the actual hardware does.
I only play competitive games. Recently I tried playing Marvel rivals and my 3080ti was struggling at medium settings to hit 240 fps. Perhaps this would make sense but the graphics are NOWHERE NEAR good enough to justify that kind of demand.
My conclusion is that the company didn't even bother to optimize the game to run smoother.
I am getting really tired of greediness and laziness. Why can't people take pride in their work?
sorry for making this a tad political
I don't even care about budget. I am just tired of not getting a decent idea on what the actual hardware does.
I only play competitive games. Recently I tried playing Marvel rivals and my 3080ti was struggling at medium settings to hit 240 fps. Perhaps this would make sense but the graphics are NOWHERE NEAR good enough to justify that kind of demand.
My conclusion is that the company didn't even bother to optimize the game to run smoother.
I am getting really tired of greediness and laziness. Why can't people take pride in their work?
sorry for making this a tad political
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:50:16 No.103991818
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:52:27 No.103991835
>>103991693
cut out a piece of cardboard and pretend its your screen
cut out a piece of cardboard and pretend its your screen
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:53:01 No.103991837
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/01/21/releasing-windows-11-build-26100-3025-to-the-release-preview-channel/
>This update improves the previews that show when your cursor hovers over apps on the taskbar. The update also improves their animations.
>Fixed: A watchdog timeout error might occur when your PC resumes from sleep.
>Fixed: Cumulative updates might not install. The error code is 0x800736b3. This occurs after a feature on demand fails to install.
>Fixed: The display of some games appears oversaturated. This occurs when you use Auto HDR.
>Fixed: The mouse cursor might disappear. This occurs when you hover over text fields in certain applications.
>Fixed: The mouse cursor might stutter when it moves across the screen. This occurs even when the system is not using a lot of resources.
>This update improves the previews that show when your cursor hovers over apps on the taskbar. The update also improves their animations.
>Fixed: A watchdog timeout error might occur when your PC resumes from sleep.
>Fixed: Cumulative updates might not install. The error code is 0x800736b3. This occurs after a feature on demand fails to install.
>Fixed: The display of some games appears oversaturated. This occurs when you use Auto HDR.
>Fixed: The mouse cursor might disappear. This occurs when you hover over text fields in certain applications.
>Fixed: The mouse cursor might stutter when it moves across the screen. This occurs even when the system is not using a lot of resources.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:56:18 No.103991857
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Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:09:59 No.103991938
>>103991837
women in cosplay give me the ick.
women in cosplay give me the ick.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:16:26 No.103991981
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:16:36 No.103991982
>>103991887
Is this POS ever going to be real?
Is this POS ever going to be real?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:17:45 No.103991989
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:18:19 No.103991991
is there really going to be a noticeable difference between these two mouses? people talk about sensor speed or some shit but will it really be noticeable?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:24:08 No.103992040
>>103991991
no, optimize for comfort and the less shitty software
no, optimize for comfort and the less shitty software
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:25:20 No.103992047
>>103991991
and what batteries would you recommend for the wireless mouse
and what batteries would you recommend for the wireless mouse
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:25:39 No.103992050
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:26:21 No.103992056
>>103992040
who has less shitty software my guy
who has less shitty software my guy
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:27:12 No.103992063
>>103992056
logitech
logitech
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:27:26 No.103992068
How come no one is talking about the sneaky way ALL gpu vendors are gimping their GPUs for older systems by using the x8/x4 interface? That means of you try to use them in a pcie gen 3.0 slot you're only going to get a gen 3 x8/x4 speeds.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:30:37 No.103992098
>>103992068
AMDunboxed have talked about it somewhat
AMDunboxed have talked about it somewhat
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:34:22 No.103992121
Is m28u still the best valued 4k monitor?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:36:33 No.103992139
Wait for 15th gen CPU with a LGA 1851 board or buy a 14900ks with z790 now?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:37:58 No.103992148
>>103992139
Neither. Track down an "R" batch 14900k (100-110SP) and get that instead
Neither. Track down an "R" batch 14900k (100-110SP) and get that instead
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:40:02 No.103992163
>>103992047
get the charging mousepad
get the charging mousepad
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:41:15 No.103992174
>>103992163
can't afford lol
can't afford lol
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:42:00 No.103992180
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:43:27 No.103992193
where do you guys buy your pc parts? brick&mortar shops in my area are all sold out of 40 series gpus and amazon/newegg are overpriced.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:43:55 No.103992197
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:43:56 No.103992199
>>103992193
EVGA
EVGA
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:45:35 No.103992210
>>103992197
which one are those daddy
which one are those daddy
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:49:35 No.103992257
https://videocardz.com/newz/retailers-aibs-and-system-integrators-warn-of-geforce-rtx-50-series-shortages-and-delays
So there's gonna be no stock on launch day basically outside of a few (single digit) cards in some stores. Fucking RIP.
So there's gonna be no stock on launch day basically outside of a few (single digit) cards in some stores. Fucking RIP.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:52:33 No.103992294
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:52:39 No.103992295
>>103992257
GPU market seems fucked right now. Good thing I already got my XTX.
GPU market seems fucked right now. Good thing I already got my XTX.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:53:49 No.103992309
>>103992294
Same reason the post has recommendations on "PC figures". It's a joke.
Same reason the post has recommendations on "PC figures". It's a joke.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:54:14 No.103992312
>>103992121
respond pls
respond pls
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:02:33 No.103992375
>>103990359
>boom mic
if you're talking about a boom arm then mount it back right of your desk and then have it go over your pc
>boom mic
if you're talking about a boom arm then mount it back right of your desk and then have it go over your pc
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:06:29 No.103992409
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:08:29 No.103992434
thoughts on B850 gigabyte lineup? They seem decent but yet again they skimped on power delivery.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:10:10 No.103992450
wtf is pcpartpicker trying to tell me? am i retarded?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:12:02 No.103992466
>>103992450
Probably will have to push the hdd cage closer to the front of the case but desu you will be fine.
Probably will have to push the hdd cage closer to the front of the case but desu you will be fine.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:18:46 No.103992513
>>103992434
I switched to ASRock this time around because there weren't any Gigabyte options without wifi. I don't want wifi.
I switched to ASRock this time around because there weren't any Gigabyte options without wifi. I don't want wifi.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:21:05 No.103992534
>>103992450
there are two 3.5" drive bays in the bottom, longer psus will block one of them
there are two 3.5" drive bays in the bottom, longer psus will block one of them
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:21:11 No.103992536
>$2000 MSRP GPU
>Doesnt support HDMI-CEC
>$3000 TV
>Doesnt support DDC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NU TECH IS A FUCKING JOKE
>Doesnt support HDMI-CEC
>$3000 TV
>Doesnt support DDC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:23:29 No.103992554
>>103992536
Why would a TV need to support Dig Dlack Cock?
Why would a TV need to support Dig Dlack Cock?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:27:11 No.103992591
>>103992554
so i can turn it on and change the channels without using IR like i do for my second monitor connected to a different computer usingn ddcutil hotkey scripts and ahve the display signal dropping turn it off and vice versa
operating a tv like this is a fucking nightmare i am so tired of these incopetente RETARDS running this shithouse of tech
so i can turn it on and change the channels without using IR like i do for my second monitor connected to a different computer usingn ddcutil hotkey scripts and ahve the display signal dropping turn it off and vice versa
operating a tv like this is a fucking nightmare i am so tired of these incopetente RETARDS running this shithouse of tech
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:31:03 No.103992624
>>103992591
You're acting like I know what DDC is.
You're acting like I know what DDC is.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:32:25 No.103992642
>>103992624
it lets you control your monitor through the display cable
it lets you control your monitor through the display cable
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:32:30 No.103992643
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:35:07 No.103992676
>>103992643
thats cool and all but the $2000 unit designed for both of those things with hdmi output on it doesnt support HDMI-CEC
did u forget that part?
thats cool and all but the $2000 unit designed for both of those things with hdmi output on it doesnt support HDMI-CEC
did u forget that part?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:38:50 No.103992704
>>103992676
What's the Cig Elack Cock version of HDMI?
What's the Cig Elack Cock version of HDMI?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:39:08 No.103992707
>>103992676
have you thought about looking at monitors that have this feature instead of seething about the ones that dont and most probably wont
have you thought about looking at monitors that have this feature instead of seething about the ones that dont and most probably wont
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:40:23 No.103992718
Is it weird that I prefer to build computers in my room whilst naked?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:42:33 No.103992734
>>103992312
He looks sick and malformed somewhat
He looks sick and malformed somewhat
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:42:37 No.103992735
>>103992718
What if you leak onto it?
What if you leak onto it?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:47:10 No.103992772
>>103992718
i get hot n sweaty building computers. naked lets my balls breathe.
i get hot n sweaty building computers. naked lets my balls breathe.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:58:01 No.103992865
>>103992707
the only big monitors you can get that are 50+ inches are designed for fucking digital signage or conference rooms. They have dogshit panels and no HDR
>>103992704
it lets you control your tv through hdmi cable
the only big monitors you can get that are 50+ inches are designed for fucking digital signage or conference rooms. They have dogshit panels and no HDR
>>103992704
it lets you control your tv through hdmi cable
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:05:23 No.103992946
How does the gigabyte motherboard naming scheme work? I get confused discerning Eagle, Aorus and Gaming boards.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:06:19 No.103992958
>>103992718
I wouldn't do naked personally because imagine trying to RMA something because your balls fried a part but I always have a fan pointed at me because I also get really hot and sweaty
I wouldn't do naked personally because imagine trying to RMA something because your balls fried a part but I always have a fan pointed at me because I also get really hot and sweaty
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:29:45 No.103993207
Nova's got restocked so if you're still looking for one you might be able to grab one at msrp
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:31:48 No.103993233
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-claims-melting-connector-issue-has-been-resolved-geforce-rtx-50-should-not-to-be-affected
>NVIDIA claims melting connector issue has been resolved, GeForce RTX 50 should not to be affected
NVIDIA keeps winning!
>NVIDIA claims melting connector issue has been resolved, GeForce RTX 50 should not to be affected
NVIDIA keeps winning!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:34:30 No.103993271
>>103993233
Hey if Nvidia says it's fixed, it's fixed
Hey if Nvidia says it's fixed, it's fixed
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:36:10 No.103993294
>>103993233
mandatory temperature sensors
mandatory temperature sensors
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:38:12 No.103993320
>>103993233
mostly to do with flipping the connector sideways and angling it so it no longer needs to be bent in a way that results in a loose connection which is what was causing those incidents
mostly to do with flipping the connector sideways and angling it so it no longer needs to be bent in a way that results in a loose connection which is what was causing those incidents
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:38:32 No.103993325
>>103993271
the adapter derbauer showed off seems like a massive improvement
the adapter derbauer showed off seems like a massive improvement
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:40:31 No.103993350
>>103993325
Its an FE exclusive
Its an FE exclusive
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:43:09 No.103993383
>>103991676
what are you powering with it?
what are you powering with it?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:49:36 No.103993452
>>103993233
I know expecting intelligence from videocardz commenters is retarded, but the amount of people who don't understand that the male plug is the same on the old 12 pin and the new 12 pin, and the only difference is in the female port on the GPU (or the PSU for the few PSU's that have native 12 pins on the PSU itself) is incredible.
I know expecting intelligence from videocardz commenters is retarded, but the amount of people who don't understand that the male plug is the same on the old 12 pin and the new 12 pin, and the only difference is in the female port on the GPU (or the PSU for the few PSU's that have native 12 pins on the PSU itself) is incredible.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:50:56 No.103993468
>>103988104
UOOOHHH
UOOOHHH
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:52:12 No.103993489
>>103993233
maybe it's time for computers to have a 24v rail to power the GPU?
maybe it's time for computers to have a 24v rail to power the GPU?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:52:40 No.103993497
>>103991676
stromforsyning, sounds like one of those fish cans you have to open outside under water or it ruins the house
>>103991668
Yeah, you should be able to get 4k120 with DLSS & tweaking some of the intensive settings.
stromforsyning, sounds like one of those fish cans you have to open outside under water or it ruins the house
>>103991668
Yeah, you should be able to get 4k120 with DLSS & tweaking some of the intensive settings.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:53:36 No.103993509
So wait, when's the 50 reviews?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:54:16 No.103993517
>>103993489
Yes, they should make this a default for every motherboard. No more cables please.
Yes, they should make this a default for every motherboard. No more cables please.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:55:04 No.103993524
>>103991785
copy your user folder and appdata to a new drive, save anything else from the desktop or start menu there too, and any other shit you have on your OS drive.
then nuke it and start fresh with windows 10 ltsc iot
copy your user folder and appdata to a new drive, save anything else from the desktop or start menu there too, and any other shit you have on your OS drive.
then nuke it and start fresh with windows 10 ltsc iot
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:55:23 No.103993529
>>103993509
48 hours
48 hours
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:55:58 No.103993532
I need a small case with a handle (a la Deepcool CH160) that can fit an mATX board and a 320mm GPU. Is there any variants? Aliexpress is fine for me.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:56:29 No.103993540
>>103991981
this is like that star trek tier list where someone put voyager at the top and ds9 in the 3rd tier with enterprise.
this is like that star trek tier list where someone put voyager at the top and ds9 in the 3rd tier with enterprise.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:57:52 No.103993554
>>103991989
this, I only value /a/nons opinions
this, I only value /a/nons opinions
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:58:36 No.103993562
>>103991991
if you can afford $70 you can get a g pro wireless instead of the g305.
>>103992047
you don't use rechargable batteries (at least for the g305), it has a small internal battery.
get a powerplay mat later on once you've decided you like the logitech mouse
if you can afford $70 you can get a g pro wireless instead of the g305.
>>103992047
you don't use rechargable batteries (at least for the g305), it has a small internal battery.
get a powerplay mat later on once you've decided you like the logitech mouse
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:59:38 No.103993572
>>103993562
I mean g pro. the g305 still uses AAs.
I mean g pro. the g305 still uses AAs.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:00:57 No.103993593
>>103993233
I thought it's the dumb customers didn't fully insert the connector and Nvidia was blameless. What happened? Did Nvidia fix their customers?
I thought it's the dumb customers didn't fully insert the connector and Nvidia was blameless. What happened? Did Nvidia fix their customers?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:01:25 No.103993597
>Day 2 without a 4k 240hz QDOLED monitor staring at a 60% SRGB 1080p LCD
I..... I don't feel so good...
I..... I don't feel so good...
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:01:29 No.103993598
I don't understand why the whole FE/OEM distinction exists. Why don't AMD/NVIDIA just make good coolers in the first place and sell their own cards? Or if the first-party coolers are good what even is the point of the OEM ones?
It's such a weird business model.
It's such a weird business model.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:03:58 No.103993627
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:05:35 No.103993638
>>103993598
AMD probably could and no-one would care.
Nvidia aren't going to want to invest in massive amounts of post-chip production capacity, and absolutely wouldn't want to be fucking about doing distribution and customer service across the entire world. They would also have anti-trust worries, although now it wouldn't matter now with the Musk/Bezos/Zuck oligarchy in charge.
AMD probably could and no-one would care.
Nvidia aren't going to want to invest in massive amounts of post-chip production capacity, and absolutely wouldn't want to be fucking about doing distribution and customer service across the entire world. They would also have anti-trust worries, although now it wouldn't matter now with the Musk/Bezos/Zuck oligarchy in charge.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:07:01 No.103993652
THIS FUCKING CAPTCHA I'M FUCKING SICK OF IT AAAAAAAARGH
>>103993593
They made a better plug to cope with the better retard.
>>103993593
They made a better plug to cope with the better retard.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:07:39 No.103993656
>>103993627
>Real life has better graphics anyway
Not europe (In winter)
Blue overcast depression desaturated with brown people....
>Real life has better graphics anyway
Not europe (In winter)
Blue overcast depression desaturated with brown people....
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:07:41 No.103993657
>>103993517
only if this becomes standard for every pcie slot on every motherboard or else you might as well start selling proprietary prebuilt computers in parts
only if this becomes standard for every pcie slot on every motherboard or else you might as well start selling proprietary prebuilt computers in parts
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:08:17 No.103993664
>>103993638
Distribution doesn't have to be tied to the model. For example, CPUs are sold as-is in the original first-party sealed boxes, but the local reseller handles distribution and whatnot.
Graphics cards are pretty much the only component I can think of where the distributors/resellers get a cut-down version of the "original" product and build up their own card around it.
Distribution doesn't have to be tied to the model. For example, CPUs are sold as-is in the original first-party sealed boxes, but the local reseller handles distribution and whatnot.
Graphics cards are pretty much the only component I can think of where the distributors/resellers get a cut-down version of the "original" product and build up their own card around it.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:08:47 No.103993665
Does Nividia still have the GPU for video games industry by the balls or are other companies viable now?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:09:19 No.103993668
>>103993572
appearntly the attack shark x3 or vxe r1 pro are better so idk if I want g305 anymore
appearntly the attack shark x3 or vxe r1 pro are better so idk if I want g305 anymore
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:11:05 No.103993678
>>103993665
They have it by the buttcheeks even. They're at 90% market share now compared to 60% a decade ago
They have it by the buttcheeks even. They're at 90% market share now compared to 60% a decade ago
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:11:10 No.103993681
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:13:11 No.103993691
>>103993665
the video game industry is dead and better hardware wont save it
better games ran on 100mhz machines than most of what comes out these days
the video game industry is dead and better hardware wont save it
better games ran on 100mhz machines than most of what comes out these days
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:17:27 No.103993735
>>103993665
They have one of the best monopolies that has ever existed in the history of the world. And it's only going to get better.
They have one of the best monopolies that has ever existed in the history of the world. And it's only going to get better.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:18:35 No.103993740
Should have bought the 6950XT when they were getting rid of stock during 23 summer...
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:18:39 No.103993741
>>103989732
Boomers rise up.
My first brand new gpu was a radeon HD 6950 and its still the best value graphics card I've ever bought. It's all been downhill from there.
Boomers rise up.
My first brand new gpu was a radeon HD 6950 and its still the best value graphics card I've ever bought. It's all been downhill from there.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:20:29 No.103993757
>>103993678
>>103993681
Got the impression nividia went full steam into GPUs for AI instead of video games now? Shame, they really could use some competition
>>103993681
Got the impression nividia went full steam into GPUs for AI instead of video games now? Shame, they really could use some competition
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:22:15 No.103993770
>>103993757
Yeah
Their best GPUs are now designed for AI while they leave the much smaller 2nd best GPU for gamers
Yeah
Their best GPUs are now designed for AI while they leave the much smaller 2nd best GPU for gamers
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:22:45 No.103993779
>>103990359
Put it where the plant is. You don't want it near the pc itself.
Put it where the plant is. You don't want it near the pc itself.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:23:48 No.103993789
>>103993757
we have to rely on Intel to save gaming now.......
we have to rely on Intel to save gaming now.......
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:27:10 No.103993827
>>103993789
Intel has good chance. Their momentum is on a roll and they have their own node which might be better than tsmc in the future. Meanwhile amd will always be a node behind Nvidia so there will never be a competition from amd
Intel has good chance. Their momentum is on a roll and they have their own node which might be better than tsmc in the future. Meanwhile amd will always be a node behind Nvidia so there will never be a competition from amd
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:29:41 No.103993846
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:31:31 No.103993865
>>103993827
Trusting Intel to do anything right, fucked up
Trusting Intel to do anything right, fucked up
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:33:40 No.103993885
>5600x + NH-U12S, rtx 4060, 1440p 240hz
thinking about an upgrade path here, one of:
- keep platform, get a 5070ti (~$1700)
- get a 5800x3d, keep 4060 (~$500)
- upgrade platform to 9600x, keep 4060 (~$1000)
i was leaning towards platform upgrade, but get a 9800x3d as it would double as a good upgrade for work, but they're completely out of stock nationwide until like march/april
thinking about an upgrade path here, one of:
- keep platform, get a 5070ti (~$1700)
- get a 5800x3d, keep 4060 (~$500)
- upgrade platform to 9600x, keep 4060 (~$1000)
i was leaning towards platform upgrade, but get a 9800x3d as it would double as a good upgrade for work, but they're completely out of stock nationwide until like march/april
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:35:57 No.103993921
>>103993865
this, Intel has reached jeet saturation
this, Intel has reached jeet saturation
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:36:34 No.103993929
does it matter if my wireless mouse is connected into my motherboard underneath my computer instead of using a usb extender on my desk
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:36:51 No.103993935
>>103993885
Am5 only has one more generation left so wait on am6 and get a gpu
Am5 only has one more generation left so wait on am6 and get a gpu
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:40:04 No.103993964
>>103993789
how the fuck can intel save gaming
they dont even make games. are you fucking stupid? dumb fuck better games ran on 100mhz than what garbage theyre shitting out today
how the fuck can intel save gaming
they dont even make games. are you fucking stupid? dumb fuck better games ran on 100mhz than what garbage theyre shitting out today
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:41:11 No.103993971
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:42:32 No.103993984
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:43:37 No.103993992
>>103993971
>>103993984
to play what? more fucking movie simulators and console ports?
am i being trolled?
>>103993984
to play what? more fucking movie simulators and console ports?
am i being trolled?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:45:55 No.103994016
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:46:05 No.103994018
>>103993992
1 in a 100 games is really good.
1 in a 100 games is really good.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:46:33 No.103994022
Gigabyte
Not even once
Not even once
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:48:57 No.103994046
>>103994018
yeah and it runs on a toaster from 10 years ago or is a console game
yeah and it runs on a toaster from 10 years ago or is a console game
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:51:07 No.103994067
>>103991620
This is the kind of thing that made me become disillusioned with benchmarks/reviews in general, the way benchmarks are done is divorced from reality.
Pic related is an example of ultra (top) vs high (bottom). Ignoring the fact that it's an indie game that probably isn't incredibly optimized, I couldn't tell the difference between the ultra and high besides the performance drop and increased CPU usage. If you gave this game to a hardware reviewer they'd probably go with the ultra settings. I had a 141 framerate cap on so I'm sure the framerate could have gone higher than 141 fps here.
This is the kind of thing that made me become disillusioned with benchmarks/reviews in general, the way benchmarks are done is divorced from reality.
Pic related is an example of ultra (top) vs high (bottom). Ignoring the fact that it's an indie game that probably isn't incredibly optimized, I couldn't tell the difference between the ultra and high besides the performance drop and increased CPU usage. If you gave this game to a hardware reviewer they'd probably go with the ultra settings. I had a 141 framerate cap on so I'm sure the framerate could have gone higher than 141 fps here.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:51:18 No.103994068
>>103991676
13/50.
13/50.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:52:31 No.103994083
>>103992434
Asrock x870 pro rs wifi desu. Its cheaper and better. Just get a good b650e board, might be cheaper and a good deal.
Asrock x870 pro rs wifi desu. Its cheaper and better. Just get a good b650e board, might be cheaper and a good deal.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:53:53 No.103994092
>>103992513
Bluetooth headphones? I'm a fan of tws. I can wear the tws and go to bath room to pee and to the kitchen to get water. Bluetooth is useful senpai.
Bluetooth headphones? I'm a fan of tws. I can wear the tws and go to bath room to pee and to the kitchen to get water. Bluetooth is useful senpai.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:54:54 No.103994098
>>103993468
Gibs me dat. Sakura 7900xtx is so comfy.
Gibs me dat. Sakura 7900xtx is so comfy.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:54:58 No.103994099
>>103994083
God i wish, the cheapest option that is not complete garbage is either x670e gaming plus for 230e or pg riptide for 250e. Im waiting for the b850 pro-a to be in stock but i already have a b650 pg riptide on order and i want to change it to that b4 they ship. Shouldve bought a 7800x3d+b650e pg riptide when it was 600 euros...
God i wish, the cheapest option that is not complete garbage is either x670e gaming plus for 230e or pg riptide for 250e. Im waiting for the b850 pro-a to be in stock but i already have a b650 pg riptide on order and i want to change it to that b4 they ship. Shouldve bought a 7800x3d+b650e pg riptide when it was 600 euros...
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:55:28 No.103994104
>>103993929
Yes your vertical tracking will be reversed, you're basically upside down
Yes your vertical tracking will be reversed, you're basically upside down
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:56:04 No.103994106
>>103994099
Isn't x870 pro rs wifi 210bux?
Isn't x870 pro rs wifi 210bux?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:56:09 No.103994107
>>103994099
sorry b650 pg lightning not riptide is on order, also the 250 one is the b850 not x870.
sorry b650 pg lightning not riptide is on order, also the 250 one is the b850 not x870.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:56:11 No.103994108
>>103993468
you just know its gonna be china exclusive
you just know its gonna be china exclusive
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:56:28 No.103994115
>>103994022
I didn't know Gigabyte made meese
I didn't know Gigabyte made meese
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:57:52 No.103994130
>>103994106
240, and pretty much all asrocks are being erased off the face of the earth. idk why the stock is dwindling so much
240, and pretty much all asrocks are being erased off the face of the earth. idk why the stock is dwindling so much
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:59:14 No.103994138
Brehs, I'm not rich enough for superlight pro 2. Tell me something cheaper with infinite scroll. G502 and G502x? I'd like metal scroll wheel too. Please suggest me one.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:59:20 No.103994139
>>103993468
Are they near msrp?
Are they near msrp?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:01:28 No.103994160
>>103994107
Bruh, b650 pg lightning is fine. b650m pg lightning is utter pos. Consider b650m HDV/m.2 its a great board too. One more thing, the B650 Live Mixer was one that got ddr5-8000 I think, so that is pretty cool.
Bruh, b650 pg lightning is fine. b650m pg lightning is utter pos. Consider b650m HDV/m.2 its a great board too. One more thing, the B650 Live Mixer was one that got ddr5-8000 I think, so that is pretty cool.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:01:56 No.103994164
Any building advice? Up to $3k, but prefer 2-2.5. Burgerland.
Starting to study networking, virtualization, sys admin shit, linux. No particular software I have in mind for this purpose. Wouldn't need this budget worth, but don't mind spending a bit more than I'd need esp if I'd grow into it.
Would like the option to gayme on the side, but not primary focus. 4k monitor.
Don't care for rgb
Starting to study networking, virtualization, sys admin shit, linux. No particular software I have in mind for this purpose. Wouldn't need this budget worth, but don't mind spending a bit more than I'd need esp if I'd grow into it.
Would like the option to gayme on the side, but not primary focus. 4k monitor.
Don't care for rgb
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:02:19 No.103994169
>>103994092
I have a Bluetooth dongle for any Bluetooth devices I might use. Currently, I'm not using any. My headphones are wired.
I have a Bluetooth dongle for any Bluetooth devices I might use. Currently, I'm not using any. My headphones are wired.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:02:19 No.103994170
>>103994138
g502 is ancient but still good, i can buy one in the gypsy land for a lil under 50 euros, ive been using it no problems since like 2018. Only complaint is weight but after a bit of time you train your wrist to compensate.
g502 is ancient but still good, i can buy one in the gypsy land for a lil under 50 euros, ive been using it no problems since like 2018. Only complaint is weight but after a bit of time you train your wrist to compensate.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:04:48 No.103994199
>>103994160
its 170e, i love the design too but idk if i can put 2 generations of cpu/gpu in since its pcie 4.0 x16, i know 4090 doesn't even saturate but if im buying a 5070ti/super refresh then i get like a 7070-8070 type gpu in the future im not sure if it can hold it youknow?
its 170e, i love the design too but idk if i can put 2 generations of cpu/gpu in since its pcie 4.0 x16, i know 4090 doesn't even saturate but if im buying a 5070ti/super refresh then i get like a 7070-8070 type gpu in the future im not sure if it can hold it youknow?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:04:59 No.103994203
>>103994138
A normal g pro wireless is only $60 on amazon.
A normal g pro wireless is only $60 on amazon.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:08:10 No.103994250
>>103994199
also hdv is nowhere to be found as well, but i would rather come down to am4 5700x3d at that point since i don't trust it to power and OC the really future gens cpus.
also hdv is nowhere to be found as well, but i would rather come down to am4 5700x3d at that point since i don't trust it to power and OC the really future gens cpus.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:08:14 No.103994251
>>103994203
No infinite scroll?
No infinite scroll?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:09:54 No.103994276
>>103994164
14700k, 5070, go from there.
14700k, 5070, go from there.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:10:35 No.103994283
>>103994199
If you are europoor, asrock availability might be an issue, how much is x870 tomahawk? Its awesome.
If you are europoor, asrock availability might be an issue, how much is x870 tomahawk? Its awesome.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:11:00 No.103994288
>>103994251
what the fuck is infinite scroll. do you mean those retarded mice that you can detach the scroll button and spin it a million times on it's own?
what the fuck is infinite scroll. do you mean those retarded mice that you can detach the scroll button and spin it a million times on it's own?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:13:16 No.103994321
>>103994283
350 euros my guy, i ain't spending that much for a 7600x/5070ti build. At MAX id do 250, i don't tend to use any motherboard features from the higher end.
350 euros my guy, i ain't spending that much for a 7600x/5070ti build. At MAX id do 250, i don't tend to use any motherboard features from the higher end.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:14:16 No.103994330
>>103994250
the HDV m.2 can power a 7950X at maximum wattage without any throttling. just get the 5700X3D as you've clearly already convinced yourself
the HDV m.2 can power a 7950X at maximum wattage without any throttling. just get the 5700X3D as you've clearly already convinced yourself
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:14:19 No.103994332
>>103994164
- rm850x or leadex vii 850w
- wd black sn850x
-7950x or 9950x
-x870 pro rs wifi (x870 tomahawk if budget allows it)
- 64 gigs of ddr5-6000 or 96gig if its in budget.
- 7900xtx, no njudea because they hate loonix and will drive you mad.
- Instead of 4k monitor, consider 27" 1440p 240Hz monitor.
- rm850x or leadex vii 850w
- wd black sn850x
-7950x or 9950x
-x870 pro rs wifi (x870 tomahawk if budget allows it)
- 64 gigs of ddr5-6000 or 96gig if its in budget.
- 7900xtx, no njudea because they hate loonix and will drive you mad.
- Instead of 4k monitor, consider 27" 1440p 240Hz monitor.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:15:32 No.103994346
>>103994330
Parts are already on order for a week now just waiting on mobo, im not gonna cancel it lol its ok i have the budget to get on am5.
Parts are already on order for a week now just waiting on mobo, im not gonna cancel it lol its ok i have the budget to get on am5.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:15:36 No.103994347
>>103994321
For 7600x, get a hdv desu. I have 7600 with b650m hdv in my server. Instead of spending monies on board, just get a better processor.
For 7600x, get a hdv desu. I have 7600 with b650m hdv in my server. Instead of spending monies on board, just get a better processor.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:17:04 No.103994363
>>103994347
Better is 7800x3d, don't need 7700x, and difference between it and 7600 is almost 250 euros, nah thanks.
Better is 7800x3d, don't need 7700x, and difference between it and 7600 is almost 250 euros, nah thanks.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:18:10 No.103994372
>>103994346
i am assuming you've checked all your local stores but what cunt are you in?
i am assuming you've checked all your local stores but what cunt are you in?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:18:21 No.103994378
>wasting your life on video games
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:19:00 No.103994386
>>103994372
Yeah i did, gypsy land, i have access to amazon.de and yeah i checked both of the only local stores that won't steal from you.
Yeah i did, gypsy land, i have access to amazon.de and yeah i checked both of the only local stores that won't steal from you.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:20:02 No.103994400
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:20:51 No.103994408
>>103994363
7900x? Its cheaper than 7800x3d. Or, consider the 9700x. Buildzoid has been playing with 9700x a lot. People have been setting oc records on b650m hdv if you didn't know.
7900x? Its cheaper than 7800x3d. Or, consider the 9700x. Buildzoid has been playing with 9700x a lot. People have been setting oc records on b650m hdv if you didn't know.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:21:11 No.103994411
>>103994386
there's a HDV on amazon.de but it's not shipping anywhere but Germany it looks like. Do you use mailforwarding?
there's a HDV on amazon.de but it's not shipping anywhere but Germany it looks like. Do you use mailforwarding?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:21:15 No.103994412
Should I buy this 4090 for approximately $1075? I'm in the third world.
Also for some reason the guy listed it as an MSI when it clearly says Asus
Also for some reason the guy listed it as an MSI when it clearly says Asus
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:22:17 No.103994425
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:22:59 No.103994440
>>103994400
jordan peterson video games
jordan peterson video games
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:24:15 No.103994454
>>103990127
Honest Question
How is this chart relevant to someone who probably doesn't have a 4090?
Are we really just assuming someone swapping to X CPU leads to exactly the same performance as measured regardless of GPU?
Honest Question
How is this chart relevant to someone who probably doesn't have a 4090?
Are we really just assuming someone swapping to X CPU leads to exactly the same performance as measured regardless of GPU?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:25:03 No.103994469
>>103994386
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yKzzZc
Heres what i had in mind, freezer 36 is 20 euros for me, ram and gpu is placeholder.
>>103994408
7900x Seems to be 10% faster in games, not sure how worth it is, could pocket it, make the build, then buy the next generations.
>>103994411
its just a 30 euro difference between it and pg lightning its fine, Id rather have the extra m2 anyways.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yKzzZ
Heres what i had in mind, freezer 36 is 20 euros for me, ram and gpu is placeholder.
>>103994408
7900x Seems to be 10% faster in games, not sure how worth it is, could pocket it, make the build, then buy the next generations.
>>103994411
its just a 30 euro difference between it and pg lightning its fine, Id rather have the extra m2 anyways.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:25:14 No.103994474
>>103994412
>>103994425
Those pics arent good enough
You need to look under the heatsink to confirm the gpu core and vram are still in tact
>>103994425
Those pics arent good enough
You need to look under the heatsink to confirm the gpu core and vram are still in tact
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:25:35 No.103994477
>>103994412
Too good to be true? Don't get scammed or your kidney stolen, good luck.
Too good to be true? Don't get scammed or your kidney stolen, good luck.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:26:31 No.103994492
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:26:41 No.103994493
>>103994454
yes and no, if you're using an RX6600 then obviously you're going to be CPU bottlenecked using a 7800X3D at 1080p vs using something like a 4070ti or better where the GPU can and will try to keep up with the CPU in terms of FPS. But all benchmarks are a good rule of thumb to follow
yes and no, if you're using an RX6600 then obviously you're going to be CPU bottlenecked using a 7800X3D at 1080p vs using something like a 4070ti or better where the GPU can and will try to keep up with the CPU in terms of FPS. But all benchmarks are a good rule of thumb to follow
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:27:31 No.103994500
>>103994469
I use my 7900x for VMs, code compiles and work. This is just awesome, my only regret is not getting 96gigs.
I use my 7900x for VMs, code compiles and work. This is just awesome, my only regret is not getting 96gigs.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:28:07 No.103994511
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:28:54 No.103994517
anyone got a suggestion for a membrane keyboard for gaming? i really love the silent membrane keyboards i dont want a loud mechanical meme
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:29:39 No.103994529
>>103994500
Yeah well i don't do VMs or code in any significant matter for my cpu to matter, also i don't have any use past 32gb, might have in a few more years but not rn. All i do is flat and vr vidya + le AI.
Yeah well i don't do VMs or code in any significant matter for my cpu to matter, also i don't have any use past 32gb, might have in a few more years but not rn. All i do is flat and vr vidya + le AI.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:30:11 No.103994536
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:30:39 No.103994546
>>103994517
Heard theres silent mechanicals, more than a lot of membranes actually.
Heard theres silent mechanicals, more than a lot of membranes actually.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:30:40 No.103994547
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:32:31 No.103994564
is this a good deal? I heard the cloud 2 is better than the cloud 3 and was wondering if wired or wireless matters much outside price
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:32:54 No.103994573
>>103994529
7700x or 9700x with a better cpu might suit you better.
7700x or 9700x with a better cpu might suit you better.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:34:18 No.103994591
>>103994564
Get a proper headphone anon, go to /iemg/ or /hpg/. What the fuck is this?
Get a proper headphone anon, go to /iemg/ or /hpg/. What the fuck is this?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:34:57 No.103994597
>>103994573
Yeah ik, theres an option for like 30 euros more for an OEM tray 7700 (the aliexpress ones) but im not sure if i care enough for the 2 extra cores, its literally a few % in most of the tasks that im gonna be doing with it, also fuck off with the 9700 i don't believe in any 9000 non-x3d cpu
Yeah ik, theres an option for like 30 euros more for an OEM tray 7700 (the aliexpress ones) but im not sure if i care enough for the 2 extra cores, its literally a few % in most of the tasks that im gonna be doing with it, also fuck off with the 9700 i don't believe in any 9000 non-x3d cpu
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:35:25 No.103994603
It's cold bruh
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:36:17 No.103994609
>>103994597
those 30 euros will mean the CPU lasts longer, I made a mistake going from the 3800X to the 5600 as stuff like cyberpunk could've been even better in FPS with the 5800X just because of the extra 2 cores
those 30 euros will mean the CPU lasts longer, I made a mistake going from the 3800X to the 5600 as stuff like cyberpunk could've been even better in FPS with the 5800X just because of the extra 2 cores
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:36:23 No.103994612
>>103989830
wait, someone told me microcenter would have 5090 FE. were they lying?
wait, someone told me microcenter would have 5090 FE. were they lying?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:37:36 No.103994620
>>103994603
Time to overclock bro.
Time to overclock bro.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:37:40 No.103994622
>>103994591
okay ty
okay ty
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:39:28 No.103994640
>>103994492
>>103994477
>>103994511
I suspect the guy is just a retard. I can get it online, there's no need for me to meet him in person. The website has buyer protection and I have 5 days to return it it something goes wrong.
>>103994474
>You need to look under the heatsink
But you can clearly see the warranty sticker is still over the heatsink screw in that other pic, how the fuck am I gonna do that?
>>103994477
>>103994511
I suspect the guy is just a retard. I can get it online, there's no need for me to meet him in person. The website has buyer protection and I have 5 days to return it it something goes wrong.
>>103994474
>You need to look under the heatsink
But you can clearly see the warranty sticker is still over the heatsink screw in that other pic, how the fuck am I gonna do that?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:41:10 No.103994661
>>103994640
Go ahead then.
Go ahead then.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:42:37 No.103994681
>>103994609
The scaling won't change man, its still within 1% at 1440p with a 4090, and looking at cp2077 at 1080 benchmarks against those 2 cpus you mentioned neted like <8% in only and only one benchmark vid out of like 5 more that i watched, the rest showed that 5600x is better.
The scaling won't change man, its still within 1% at 1440p with a 4090, and looking at cp2077 at 1080 benchmarks against those 2 cpus you mentioned neted like <8% in only and only one benchmark vid out of like 5 more that i watched, the rest showed that 5600x is better.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:43:18 No.103994687
>>103994612
FE in store is best buy exclusive
FE in store is best buy exclusive
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:44:31 No.103994702
>>103994687
i know thats how it was last year, but are we so sure itll be the same?
i know thats how it was last year, but are we so sure itll be the same?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:45:14 No.103994710
>>103988544
Why the fuck do you still buy logishit?
Why the fuck do you still buy logishit?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:45:48 No.103994718
>>103994681
Also OEM tray cpus have less warranty, harder to sell cuz no box and more likely to receive shipping dmg but that part is cope ig
Also OEM tray cpus have less warranty, harder to sell cuz no box and more likely to receive shipping dmg but that part is cope ig
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:45:56 No.103994720
>>103994603
Make sure to put on extra layers
Make sure to put on extra layers
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:46:46 No.103994726
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:46:46 No.103994727
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:47:06 No.103994731
>>103988544
Are you bashing your mouse? I've been on the same g pro with modded kailh switches for 3 and a half years.
Are you bashing your mouse? I've been on the same g pro with modded kailh switches for 3 and a half years.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:48:45 No.103994748
AIB prices when? Unironically though. I know benchmarks are allowed to drop a day before the launch, but what the fuck about the pricing?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:49:29 No.103994755
>>103994748
Why does it even matter if you will never see them at MSRP?
Why does it even matter if you will never see them at MSRP?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:49:57 No.103994764
>>103994755
I am going to camp out my Micro Center. That's how.
I am going to camp out my Micro Center. That's how.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:50:23 No.103994767
>>103994727
alright, well thats half of the battle. now we just need the proof that 5090 FE will indeed be at best buy. even though id say its likely given it happened last time and the microcenter wont have them like last time, still need to know before wasting my time... appreciate the info of course though. has nothing to do with believing you or not
alright, well thats half of the battle. now we just need the proof that 5090 FE will indeed be at best buy. even though id say its likely given it happened last time and the microcenter wont have them like last time, still need to know before wasting my time... appreciate the info of course though. has nothing to do with believing you or not
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:51:57 No.103994780
>>103994755
there are gonna be some msrp aib though.
they're gonna be shit, but you can get one.
>>103994748
by this time next week you'll know ;)
there are gonna be some msrp aib though.
they're gonna be shit, but you can get one.
>>103994748
by this time next week you'll know ;)
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:53:54 No.103994794
>>103994780
>by this time next week you'll know ;)
I will sacrifice you upon the blood altar to Quetzalcoatl.
>by this time next week you'll know ;)
I will sacrifice you upon the blood altar to Quetzalcoatl.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:56:37 No.103994817
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:57:16 No.103994821
>>103994794
My estimates (based on the few places we've got prices from), suggest that whatever your MSRP (or MSRP + Tax if it's included in the price originally) is that entry cards will be:
*0% to 15% more expensive than MSRP
*Mid level will be 10% to 20% more than msrp
* High end will be 30% to 40% more than MSRP.
My estimates (based on the few places we've got prices from), suggest that whatever your MSRP (or MSRP + Tax if it's included in the price originally) is that entry cards will be:
*0% to 15% more expensive than MSRP
*Mid level will be 10% to 20% more than msrp
* High end will be 30% to 40% more than MSRP.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:58:57 No.103994841
>>103994767
Best buy will likely have some sort of announcement before release, but you can also try calling the actual store to ask
Best buy will likely have some sort of announcement before release, but you can also try calling the actual store to ask
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:36:54 No.103995302
>>103993664
>where the distributors/resellers get a cut-down version of the "original" product and build up their own card around it
They're not resellers, they're OEMs. The same model applies to sound/network/bus cards which are built by an OEM around a controller chip from another manufacturers. It also applies to mobos with soldered CPUs, which make up for a lot of computers (laptops, mini PCs, low-end pre-built desktops, etc.). Same goes for RAM sticks, SSDs and PSUs, where the finished product often isn't designed and assembled by the manufacturer of the "core" component.
Socketed CPUs are actually the exception, and even then socketed mobos are built around chipsets and sockets provided by AMD/Intel and according to their specs.
>where the distributors/resellers get a cut-down version of the "original" product and build up their own card around it
They're not resellers, they're OEMs. The same model applies to sound/network/bus cards which are built by an OEM around a controller chip from another manufacturers. It also applies to mobos with soldered CPUs, which make up for a lot of computers (laptops, mini PCs, low-end pre-built desktops, etc.). Same goes for RAM sticks, SSDs and PSUs, where the finished product often isn't designed and assembled by the manufacturer of the "core" component.
Socketed CPUs are actually the exception, and even then socketed mobos are built around chipsets and sockets provided by AMD/Intel and according to their specs.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:42:08 No.103995358
>>103995302
You made me think about it and realise you have a fair point.
But then why are GPUs so unique in that the actual core chip is the main thing people choose, whereas nobody cares about e.g. the exact memory chips making up a RAM stick or an SSD? Even when memory can have vastly different performance, people look at the end products and go "oh, this has a speed of X, that one has a speed of Y" instead of saying "oh, this uses this model of chips from this manufacturer, that one uses chips from that manufacturer". In fact most people probably don't even know the manufacturers.
Perhaps even more importantly, why do FE/reference cards even exist then, when they don't for almost any other product?
You made me think about it and realise you have a fair point.
But then why are GPUs so unique in that the actual core chip is the main thing people choose, whereas nobody cares about e.g. the exact memory chips making up a RAM stick or an SSD? Even when memory can have vastly different performance, people look at the end products and go "oh, this has a speed of X, that one has a speed of Y" instead of saying "oh, this uses this model of chips from this manufacturer, that one uses chips from that manufacturer". In fact most people probably don't even know the manufacturers.
Perhaps even more importantly, why do FE/reference cards even exist then, when they don't for almost any other product?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:57:51 No.103995555
>>103995358
>But then why are GPUs so unique in that the actual core chip is the main thing people choose
NTA but for all the differences in GPUs the actual GPU chip is what matters.
>whereas nobody cares about e.g. the exact memory chips making up a RAM stick or an SSD? Even when memory can have vastly different performance
For SSDs and RAM some people do care about what makes it up, for DDR5 some people prefer Hynix regardless of specs if they are tweaking. But when it comes to stock performance there is a lot more variance in performance depending on what each manufacturer does with each component. It's easier for most people to just go by spec sheets and reviews.
>why do FE/reference cards even exist then, when they don't for almost any other product?
They do.
The whole cottage industry of 3rd party vendors making components for the DIY/Consumer market does not exist outside of it.
I work in a DC, our memory does not come from Gskill, Corsair, or whoever. It comes straight from SK Hynix, Samsung and Micron.
We have custom SSDs that come from Kingston but they just make them to the specs the company wants. Over time they have moved to industry standard form factors and now our SSDs come straight from Samsung, Micron, Toshiba, etc
Same with GPUs, all GPUs are Nvidia first party.
Pretty much every single name you see in the DIY space, does not exist in the massive DCs that consume most of the world's tech
>But then why are GPUs so unique in that the actual core chip is the main thing people choose
NTA but for all the differences in GPUs the actual GPU chip is what matters.
>whereas nobody cares about e.g. the exact memory chips making up a RAM stick or an SSD? Even when memory can have vastly different performance
For SSDs and RAM some people do care about what makes it up, for DDR5 some people prefer Hynix regardless of specs if they are tweaking. But when it comes to stock performance there is a lot more variance in performance depending on what each manufacturer does with each component. It's easier for most people to just go by spec sheets and reviews.
>why do FE/reference cards even exist then, when they don't for almost any other product?
They do.
The whole cottage industry of 3rd party vendors making components for the DIY/Consumer market does not exist outside of it.
I work in a DC, our memory does not come from Gskill, Corsair, or whoever. It comes straight from SK Hynix, Samsung and Micron.
We have custom SSDs that come from Kingston but they just make them to the specs the company wants. Over time they have moved to industry standard form factors and now our SSDs come straight from Samsung, Micron, Toshiba, etc
Same with GPUs, all GPUs are Nvidia first party.
Pretty much every single name you see in the DIY space, does not exist in the massive DCs that consume most of the world's tech
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:27:05 No.103996508
>>103990642
Can't decide between Thermaltake W200 and picrel but modded for newer motherboard layouts
Can't decide between Thermaltake W200 and picrel but modded for newer motherboard layouts
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:32:45 No.103996583
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:37:57 No.103996641
>>103996583
the case is the heatsink.
it's like 20kg of aluminum with copper heat exchangers and a gorillion heatpipes custiom fit for cpu, vrm, ram and gpu.
the case is the heatsink.
it's like 20kg of aluminum with copper heat exchangers and a gorillion heatpipes custiom fit for cpu, vrm, ram and gpu.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:38:51 No.103996654
>>103996641
Oh that makes sense. That's pretty cool.
Oh that makes sense. That's pretty cool.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:56:47 No.103996900
>>103994067
>way benchmarks are done is divorced from reality
At what point is enough actually enough, and you are finally satisfied with what you have?
>way benchmarks are done is divorced from reality
At what point is enough actually enough, and you are finally satisfied with what you have?