Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M3x4rsyd84

>>103994841
true enough
also, this is probably all the proof a nigga need anyway
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-gddr7-graphics-card-dark-gun-metal/6614151.p?skuId=6614151

let me guess, you need more?

I plan on buying a 5090 FE on launch in UK. Supposedly scan is selling them yet you need a link thru the Nvidia website. My question is: do I need a marketplace account for the links to show? Others are also asking online and looks like the only way to create 1 is adding a founders edition to your cart then going into checkout

The issue is all of them are sold out and by the time I create 1 when 5000 series drops every unit will be sold out. That goes back to my original question: am I fucked without a Nvidia marketplace account?

>>103994963
Unless you can program a bot you're going to miss out to scalpers & bot users anyway.

>Sapphire Pulse 9070XT
yup thats the gee pee you for me

what specs does elon have on his pc?

>March
Advanced Marketing Disaster

>>103995011
he probably has a high end gaming laptop

>>103994979
No one is going to scalp a 2k GPU. Nvidia is baiting with low supply rumors yet they are manufacturing them for longer than 40 series. It's mostly a US issue where you have to compete with a continent sized country

>>103994963
make an nvidia account now and sign in, make an account on scan and sign in and have your basket open on a seperate tab with your payment details and address (card not paypal) ready to go. This is how i got a 3070 and 3060ti FE during COVID

>>103995011
He does the same thing he does with his business, he buys the game, gets other people to do the work then brags he did it all himself.

>>103995031
The 5090 is going to have more demand than the 5080 & 5070ti put together because companies are going to buy them. The Chinese are going to make the drip of 4090 empty die scams into a tsunami because of the amounts of 5090's they want to get the chips from.

>>103995066
PNY is unironically good though, they make the majority of the non geforce cards for nvidia

>>103995031
>No one is going to scalp a 2k GPU
this was said for the 30 and 40 series

>>103995066
>/pol/ /biz/ /v/
So the source is retarded children

remember to fix your posture

Let me repeat... if you are in Europe or anywhere else you are NOT getting a 5090....

>>103995040
The issue is the marketplace account is supposedly different from a regular 1. I bought stuff from scan before and have everything prefilled the only problem is Nvidia's website because I never used it before and the queue system will likely cuck me out of a GPU

>>103995072
B2B is different, Nvidia said they want to lower it yet that's likely just PR

>>103995087
The 30 series was scalped because everyone was home running poverty tier crypto mining rigs, the 40 series was just good with low supply

>>103995066
where's maxsun and yeston? so good that this chart doesn't even come close?

>>103995132
just have the 5090 store page loaded up in like 3/4 different browser sessions and keep refreshing and make sure you're signed into Scan in each browser so your basket carries over to whichever browser you're using for the basket. I think you're over thinking it a little anon, just make sure you're signed in everywhere you need to be and F5-ing as much as possible

>>103995152
this is so retarded
why don't they do a pre-order so they make sure they produce enough 5090's for everyone?

>>103995159
because then you'd have the 30-series or 9800X3D situation where there are months of back-ordering

>>103995159
They are unable to produce enough 5090s to meet demand .
Its just not possible without taking away from Nvidias enterprise golden goose

>>103995152
>keep refreshing

That will just lock me out of the queue. The meta is spamming F5 5 seconds before 2pm when they drop

The only worry I have is the Nvidia website. I have to add the card into 'cart' which will redirect me to scan yet I do not have a marketplace account which can only be setup when buying stuff yet nothing is for sale directly from Nvidia hence I am fucked IF adding into cart to redirect requires said account

>>103995176
isn't that essentially what's happening now where people are having to wait months to buy the card?

>>103995203
Thank you, brother.

>>103995216
no, the cards aren't even released so how can people be waiting months?
>>103995212
>The meta is spamming F5 5 seconds before 2pm when they drop
that's what i meant, i gathered you know what to do. I just used my Nvidia account both times and I had no issues at all. God speed anon

>>103995203
I genuinely can't tell if these are satire anymore in 2025

>>103995271
That's how you fall to propaganda. It erodes you defenses. Just ignore it. Even reading spammed thread titles over and over is a tactic to get things into your head.

>>103995261
Thanks. There are many things which can go wrong, the Nvidia website hates firefox for example so I had to login everywhere using edge which dislikes my modified Windows

>>103995261
but if you don't obsessively refresh a retarded order page you're stuck waiting months for the card to get back in stock
so you're waiting months either way. pre ordering just doesn't waste your time

>>103995066
aren't zotac and sapphire the same

techlet here, which monitor type gives vetter colours between TN, VA and IPS? I know OLED is king when it comes to it but the price increase is too much.
Also is HDR a factor to take in? I never could try it and I don't really know what it gives.

>>103995394
IPS
get a mini-led IPS if you've got the money

>>103995203
Paul Joseph Watson is unironically extremely accurate

>>103995394
hdr is a waste of time for non-oled

>>103995435
What does it even give in terms of colors and stuff? I understand if it's useless but I'm really curious

>>103995394
IPS, HDR irrelevant

>>103995185
But why not add more manufacturing what the fuck
>but muh foundries take a long time to build
There have been chip shortage and stock issues for every major component for several years now. Every single release, literally every single one, is followed by at least a couple of months of dry supply and scalper prices. This is not new, this has been going on for a while. Why have they still not expanded capacity?
Especially when nvidia is literally making trillions. Can't they just pay $100bn to TSMC or whatever to order them to build like five new foundries so they can make unlimited GPUs? Pretty sure their high-end AI cards are also on backorder for the big business customers (correct me if I'm wrong) so it would still be profitable.

It's basic supply and demand and they're refusing to increase the supply. But they're not even adjusting pricing to the equilibrium either, no matter how high they price it the entire manufacturing capacity is still exhausted immediately and scalpers basically step in to equalise the market, selling for MSRPx2 because people are still buying at that price point.

>>103995394
>which monitor type gives vetter colours between TN, VA and IPS?
Certainly not TN. IPS colors are decent but it has backlight bleed which might be noticeable in darc scenes. VA are slower to respond and (cheap VAs) have smearing, but their contrast is better than IPS. So technically VA wins, but for general usage you should really pick an IPS monitor.

>>103995435
>>103995451
Thanks. One last thing, if I get a good deal on a monitor and it's HDR, I can disable it right?

>>103995394
If a monitor doesn't have at least 1000 nits, it's worthless for HDR.
Most of the """""HDR"""" monitors have 400 or 500 nits, which is just marketing bullshit.
Just buy a decent IPS monitor, and calibrate it.

>>103995484
yeahp you can disable in Windows as well

>>103995444
it gives way better colors/brightness/contrast if youre on an os that supports it and using an application that supports it. objectively nice thing to have, but it's not universally supported yet and most non-oled monitors that claim to have hdr have a shitty version of it

Bought 64 gigs of 6000 cl30 RAM (trident Z neo, 30-40-40-96), and seem to get much lower readings than other people with similar RAM. Expo enabled:
Read: 66.11 GiB/s
Write: 33.03 GiB/s
Latency: 89.8 ns

Especially the write seems abysmal. Is my RAM fucked, or is it because of the extra L3 cache from the 9800x3D?

thoughts about 3d monitors? they seem to make a comeback
dont even need 3d glasses

>>103995486
>>103995488
>>103995492
Thanks everyone

>>103995159
In australia for the 30 series, one single store out of dozens, took 10,000 pre-orders for 3080's on day one. It took them so long to fill those pre-orders that they ended up allowing people to swap from the 3080's to 3080ti's or LHR's.
Now imagine that for the entire planet.

>>103995510
is this pic how it really looks irl

>>103995394
>>103995444
HDR is a set of standards basically requiring local dimming + higher peak brightness.
Of particular note is HDR400, which is the lowest standard, and it does absolutely nothing except mandating some minimum peak brightness capability. So they make monitors that can put "HDR" in their name for marketing while changing absolutely nothing except making sure their backlight is strong enough.

The standards get better at higher tiers where they actually mandate "dimming zones", which is basically independently controllable backlights so that if say most of the screen is really dark but there's some bright elements, the dark areas are actually darker because the backlight is actually dimmer there.
However it's really not particularly impressive if there's only like a dozen dimming zones. So-called miniled monitors use an actual panel of LEDs as their backlight and so usually have 500-1000+ independently controllable zones, that actually has a pretty meaningful impact. OLED (and in theory microled, but that's vapourware) doesn't even have a separate backlight and every individual pixel produces its own light, meaning that it effectively has as many dimmable zones as there are pixels on the monitor, so it's pretty damn good for HDR content.

>>103994815
Ok great

What's the mac equivalent?

>>103995482
Nvidia has infinite money. If that's not enough for 5 then either spend more or build fewer, but the point is every foundry is a money printer up until demand saturation, and demand is FAR from being saturated, so they should keep building them for now.

>>103995444
the point is that the dark parts of an image/video are actually dark while the bright ones get really bright
having used both ips hdr and oled hdr, ips can't come close
with ips hdr you either end up with a really washed out image where everything looks like you cranked the brightness up or a really dark image

>>103995542
>saturate demand at release by oversuppling the product
>price of product drops for consumer due to weaker demand
>profit margins take a hit
?????
>not profit
this is why it will never happen

>>103995539
I suggest getting the filet o fish

>>103995462
They have increased supply significantly but demand has increased 10x as much .
Every Venture Capitalist , grifter and man child in the world is buying every GPU they can afford RN.

>>103995048
Elon derangement syndrome is approaching trump levels from you delusional troons

>>103994963
When I bought my 4070 FE on release I didn't need to use my nvidia account at all, the checkout redirected me to proshop, which is the nvidia partner for nordics. I can still see the order on my proshop account.

>>103995510
>they seem to make a comeback
Are they? Interesting
I always liked 3D. I loved my 3ds as a teen, and I had one of those nvidia 3d-vision monitors with the glasses (which cost $100 at the time). But I barely ever used my monitor in 3d just because of the hassle of getting the separate IR controller for the glasses to work, get the (rechargeable) glasses to work, having everything be way dimmer with them on, and also not actually playing that many games on PC where it even made any sense.

Glassless 3D sounds really neat, I'd buy into this.

>>103995510
Probably the most immersive experience you can get, shame the support is always so ass.

Would be curious to try out https://github.com/JoeyAnthony/3DGameBridgeProjects/releases/tag/v1.0.0 but it's a hard sell beta testing for the current prices.

>>103995082
PNY doesnt put fuses on their 4090 boards to cut corners. My PS2 has fuses.

>>103994928
Looks like silverstone and too expensive.

>>103994988
Anon, why the fuck would I buy a 16gig card? AMD is driving me mad, I want their card, but no new 24 or 32 gig card? They are fucking stupid.

>>103995394
If not Oled, you want IPS. Preferably high refresh > more pixels.

>>103995503
Compare it against other 64 gig setups, its not the same as 32 gig setups. Its rank 1 vs 2, rank 1 will give better throughtput I think.

What is the cover between the PSU and motherboard good for?

>>103995752
100% for looks
It makes your gpu run hotter than without it

users of the PG32UCDM listen the FUCK UP!

Does setting the pixel refresh to "OFF" in oled care prevent it from running a refresh after 16 hours of continually usage is met or does it force a 16 hour FORCED refresh like almost all(?) other QDOLED panels?

I don't wanna buy a shitty firmware monitor again

Thoughts on MSI MAG A850G psu?

Redpill me on Gigabyte, are their Aorus subsidiary's mobos/gpus ok?

>>103995861
>Redpill me on Gigabyte
average, solid boards (minus their Eagle line)

Only boards I would use for AM5 rn are ASRock and Gigabyte....

>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/83j4Nz
Opinions? I could get this as a prebuilt (GPU would be delivered seperately) incl. 2 years of warranty for 1900 Eurodollars, but I'm not sure if I'm being fucked over somewhere.

>>103995686
Tell me why fuses are relevant for someone who isn't XOCing?
State your case

Im statring to build a CPU for my Graphic design work. Low on budget (only 300 usd). Do i need to buy Graphic card? Im confuse , is AMD ryzen better than I5? Please help .

>>103995796
If you plan on using a monitor for 16 hours daily why the fuck are you even thinking about OLED? Burn in is still a major concern and ABL rapes brightness

>>103995900
Build it yourself

>>103995922
learn English first, ok?

>>103995900
looks overpriced but I'm american other than that looks fine

>>103995939
Here’s the grammatically corrected version

"I'm starting to build a CPU for my graphic design work. I'm on a tight budget (only $300). Do I need to buy a graphics card? I'm confused; is AMD Ryzen better than Intel i5? Please help

>>103995963
I don't know shit about graphic design but if you're using Adobe products they will always work better on Shittel

>>103995900
Garbage mobo and garbage cooler. The fuck is that ssd? Build it yourself with this:
- wd black sn850x
- Arctic lf3 360 AIO
- x870 pro rs wifi
- Get a case of your choice.

>>103995922
Buy a used optiplex for 100bux, put your used GPU in it. Profit?

>>103995930
>If you plan on using a monitor for 16 hours daily why the fuck are you even thinking about OLED?
seems like a retarded request from me, no? let me explain
these (most) of the monitors come with a on counter that starts ticking when it's running and performs a forced refresh after 16 hours accumulated total and fucks up your work flow (non skippable)
the idea from manufacturers to avoid these annoyances is to run a pixel refresh every time the monitor idles or does not have an input or is shut off if 4 hours of on time is accumulated
the problem here is that, firmware is buggy some times does not refresh even when monitor is off, or the timer not even starting to tick, amongst other things
so even if you dont want 16 hours non stop use, say you use whatever amount of hours, the counter runs up, you start the monitor, now because it has not refreshed you are at hour 15 and it will force you to refresh in the middle of doing your shit
maybe for you this is not annoying, sure you can just sit and look at a black screen for 6minutes+ while you wait for your monitor to be operatable again (repeat this process for the lifetime of the panel btw)
(you also paid 800-1500€ for this panel btw)
not ok
so in summary, 16 hours forced would be more ok IF the firemware worked correctly, but ideally should not exist a 16 hour counter at all (No idea how the asus one work)
one more thing that certian brands dont even have a setting for is shit like pixel move that should be off

>Burn in is still a major concern
major? Idk
I would take burn in over a panel that just annoys you however, but maybe the manufacturers seethe over not wanting to replace shit after 3 year guarantee though

>and ABL rapes brightness
turning off most protection features makes most monitors a consistent 250nits
asus has a unifrom brightness setting
non issue on monitors really

might have to go back to an lcd just not to be bothered by fucking pop ups, literally kills the whole oled shit for me

>>103995963
>I'm starting to build a CPU

Step one is to purchase a $370 million dollar EUV machine from ASML

AMDbros I thought Linux was our turf

>>103996008
>optiplex
Optiplex has a faggy power supply.

>>103996060
The fuck do you expect for 300 bux?

>>103996073
A non faggy power supply. It cost them more to invent a non existent standard just to say "fuck you."

>>103995991
what if someone doesn't want a white mobo?

>>103996013
Did you even experience such issues with firmware? Just buy a high end miniled if you want a worry free experience. Monitor software has always been jank regardless of brand

>>103996096
x870 Phatom Gaming Riptide.

rx 7800 xt or rtx 4070 super?

So i sent back my screen with bad pixel.
And need your advice to pick my next screen.
23.8" LG 24MS500-B
vs
24" Samsung S24D300
vs
...
fuck manufacturer and their bad pixels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDr1pr_c6ts

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>103996091
If you are a poor thirdie with 300bux, depending on the area, you are not going to be able to find any used gaming PC, or any PC from the last 10 years. I'd say go ahead with optiplex and just put a light card in.

>50 series laptops not available until March
fuuuuuuck youuuuuu

Good CPU to pair with a 7900xt? Wanna do 2k gaming. Don't care about the 9070.

>NVIDIA WON
He doesn't know...
LOL

>>103996203
Your budget? 9800x3d or 7800x3d.

>>103996172
I'm just warning that the Optiplex generally has a 300 watt proprietary PSU. Some don't even have an extra power cable for a GPU.

>>103996216
I agree 100%, I'd be careful on the optiplex I choose and the card that I choose.

>>103996125
>Did you even experience such issues with firmware?
yes, I just returned my 32" 4k240hz qdoled becuse of said behavior
>Just buy a high end miniled
why do I need that? seems like laggy messy slop, and the only good one with decent behavior (That even oled cucks suck off) is the old Asus one because it has a gsync module in it

if is this is it I'll just go back to sdr lcd slop

>worry free
just need annoying free
product are supposed to IMRPOOV your life not annoy it, I will simply not support these things

>Monitor software has always been jank regardless of brand
my old monitor had some hardware problems in some regards and every time such problems popped up I was annoyed too, possibly less annoying than this, but yeah I know shit is shit, but simply become unusuable is more annoying
yeah everything is shit......

>>103996155
atleast buy a 144-165-180hz IPS
>fuck manufacturer and their bad pixels.

are those a 100hz IPS and a TN?
geez

>>103996155
nvm both ipses
but eh try to up the price a bit

>>103996257
OLED will not become annoyance free anytime soon and microled is still 5 years away from being commercially affordable

Monitors are an afterthought for manufacturers so either you buy a miniled - basic bitch IPS - VA or get used to OLEDs flaws

>>103996257
>sdr lcd slop
your "hdr" monitor has 400 nits you fucking retard
just buy a cheap used, 10 year old shitty lcd monitor and be done with it, your eyes are garbage anyway

Monitor recommendation under $200?

>>103996387
dell G2724D

>>103996280
There is 27" LG 27MP400-B.
3 years old IPS model, but only 75 hz.
Thats maximum i can step up.
100 hz 23.8 vs 75 hz 27?

>>103996467
>bad pixels comments
Dude did you tried that model yourself?

>>103996507
i have two on my desk right now

I can get a Arc B580 for the msrp $250 dollarinos right now, new. Is it a good idea? Upgrading from an RX 6600.
Since I got an entry level AM5 system, my gpu is bottlenecking my shit.
Too bad it will fuck up my white build.
Picrel

>>103996036
delete this sar

>>103996336
microled seems like DOA tech to me but whatever, can they make them small enough? anyway

>Monitors are an afterthought for manufacturers
if tvs have better firmware they might be viable, I can consider a LG or Samsung but if they are gonna be gay it's a no go too

>buy a miniled
for brightness or hdr only? don't need neither and a buggy software to boot

>basic bitch IPS
the fact that a mobile phone will have a better display and we are stuck on slopcore SDR IPS'es
I will buy this, or hell, I will even buy a TN

>VA
if the Neo G8 goes down in price enough, but I don't want a bendaroo

>or get used to OLEDs flaws
I don't negotiate with terrorists

>>103996356
>your "hdr" monitor has 400 nits you fucking retard
are you referring to the qdoled? 450~in true black mode and the hdr1000 mode had 1k peak
why so mad?

>just buy a cheap used, 10 year old shitty lcd monitor and be done with it
no, new lcd is near free and used and people are yucky

>your eyes are garbage anyway
explain your reasoning

So uhm I have a desktop running Arch and a macbook air m1.

I noticed the big difference in font quality when installing Ghostty on both machines. Of course, I know macbooks have retina display and I'm using a "normal" screen on my desktop.

So I started to think that I just need to upgrade to a better screen. Unfortunately, I am really poor right now so maybe I shouldn't even think about it. But anyway. Do you guys have any recomendations?

I am checking OP and apparently the better option for 1080p is the MSI G244F E2, so I'll check out some reviews.

However, I also request further assistance because I do not know if I should take the chance to also upgrade on resolution. My current machine has:
>B450M DS3H V2
>AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
>GeForece RTX 4070 SUPER
>16BG DDR4 3000Mhz

I've played in this screen at 1080p 75hz for many years and never cared about upgrading.

Most important things in a new screen for me:
>Not very expensive
>Makes programming and fonts in general look great
>Can still play all my games at top fps in High or Ultra

So I think 4K is off the table but I'm not sure if I am able to jump to 1440p with this desktop

>>103996507
which one would you recommend instead?

>>103996387
Worth it to spend an extra $50 on the AOC Q27G3XMN for the entry HDR

>>103996203
There's not one fast enough to overcome Radeon's driver overhead

>>103996546
if you want a cheap good IPS get this:
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Inch-100Hz-Computer-Monitor/dp/B0D4QVHWPJ

>>103996507
Show me the $200 monitor that doesn't have a chance of coming with dead pixels

>>103996528
No other better used cards at 250 bux? Can you spend more for a 7900gre?

>>103996546
>can they make them small enough?

Yeah. Merely a matter of time

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1ceiw9a/samsung_38_inch_microled_most_likely_footage_of_a/

The only viable option for OLED TV as monitor is the C4 last I heard

>for

Both

>>103996588
In the days of title specific driver optimizations you ought to have much more games in your comparison.

>>103996590
not sold in my country
1440p180hz is cheap enough anyway

>>103996598
Im choosing beetwen this three.
>>103996484
>>103996155

>>103996588
Compare 7900xtx to 4080s, comparing against 4090 is not cool.

>>103996588
Jesus Christ I literally just played that game and in a town like that I was getting ~80+ FPS in a town like that at 4K on my 3090. Lowest it would ever get was 60 while galloping through Rattay at night with a torch up

>>103996623
Any monitor you can buy could have dead pixels

>>103996170
https://youtu.be/RDr1pr_c6ts?si=mC28Ny23ItvS3Qmp&t=234
Funny guy. Calls 250W GPUs for 10 years stagnation. Thank you Mr. Bald. Can't wait to see real innovation and hope to get that 800W GPU next.

>>103996151
5070. If you have to buy something now, 4070 Super. Radeon is not an option currently

>>103995922
You don't need a graphics card. Just look for a used Optiplex with an Intel CPU. You can use its iGP
https://www.ebay.com/itm/146341912548

>>103995900
>I'm not sure if I'm being fucked over somewhere.
The graphcs card

>>103995394
Colors would be IPS, but contrast is VA. Colors are pretty close between IPS and VAs these days, contrast is not close. But if you're buying VA for gaming, you have to be choosy as to which you buy, as often the pixel response times aren't high enough, leading to black smearing. Right now the AOC Q27G3XMN is the best option

>>103996613
>>103996625
It's a CPU benchmark. That's a typical scenario for Radeon in a CPU limited DX11 game. It's as bad as Arc in that regard

>>103996019
underrated post

>>103996608
The problem here is the dot pitch, a 38" 1080p matte slopper microled dog shit display will looks like fucking ass
This tech is such a fucking meme it's unbelievable
they are saying it's a 1080p
digital foundry says the large screen microleds at CES look fucking horrendous
I'm not holding out for this slop
but if they make it sure good cool fine

>The only viable option for OLED TV as monitor is the C4 last I heard
If TVs have solved firmware (just don't be annoying) I can try a C4 42" or couchmaxxing with a C4 77" or 83" OR a 65" S90D (only qdoled model here, non one connect box slopper non matte shit)
the S95F might have the best commercially available panel for consoomers (4000k nits QDOLED peak, 450nits full)
But it's a matte and has a one connect box that is aids

But all that said we will see

>>103996639
Companies that has own display matrix manufacture have less chance of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flat_panel_display_manufacturers

>>103996681
I kek'd

THIS MAN LOVES HIS JOB SO FUCKING MUCH

So my unit will power off when I barely touch the GPU power cable. Is this an issue with cable or power supply?

>>103996673
>Radeon is not an option currently
why not?

Recommended laptop companies and which ones to avoid?

>>103996760
it's never an option for a shill

>>103996760
Because I have a brain

>>103996760
because I'm not an idiot

>>103996740
he better, he probably makes 700k after bonuses, RSUs, etc. Most of Nvidia's engineers are literal millionaires they just work because they enjoy it

>>103996730
The tech is still new in terms of high budget R&D

Eventually most issues will be fixed yet we will move to star wars - star trek type projectors sooner or later anyway

>>103996758
>try new cable, it works, yay it was the cable
>doesn't work, test PSU, PSU tests bad, it was the PSU!

>>103996764
Avoid: ASUS, HP, Acer, Dell
Recommend: Lenovo, MacBook (M2+ only), Gigabyte, MSI

>>103996782
I mean they better pay well. They only hire top tier ivy grads to begin with and if the pay doesn't add up they'll just go work in fintech.

>>103996813
I doubt nvidia has ever struggled to find staff

>>103996808
Thank you sir

>>103996831
If you could read you'd understand that I'm saying they're extremely picky.

>>103996740
>engineer for nvidia since 2019
He probably has 10 million dollars distributed among 40 CDs to ensure absolute financial security and comfort even if the ai bubble popped tomorrow and another several million in unredeemed stock options. The only reason to still be working at Nvidia would be that he loves the job.

>>103996760
It's absolutely an option, but we have fanboys for both Nvidia and AMD loitering in these threads, and the person you replied to is an Nvidia one. There's one particular idiot (or at least I hope it's just one) who's even still parroting the whole "DLSS looks better than native" horseshit that has literally never been true.

>>103996831
this, it's more like the opposite
>ok you're not cut out for us brother
>*goes works at some shitty finance company or startup*
>makes 500k less

>>103996840
Nope. Your statement didn't say that.

>>103996855
The companies Nvidia competes with in recruiting pay just as much if not more, they just aren't household names.

>>103996873
>They only hire top tier ivy grads
Please rephrase this in a way that doesn't mean "they're extremely picky"

>>103996874
Nvidia has no competition.

>>103996894
So does everyone else. The idea that they have to fight with fintech for staff is laughable.

>>103996898
I feel like I'm talking to an indoctrinated cultist right now. The companies they compete with IN RECRUITING. The other companies that want to hire top tier ivy grads.

>>103996760
Lack of competitive reconstruction is the biggest reason. Current games are designed with upsampling in mind. If you're just playing old games, you don't need a $600 graphics card. Geforce is far better value across the stack if image quality is held constant.

>There is no option for "no upscaling,"
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/senuas-saga-hellblade-2-benchmark/3.html
The reconstruction techniques you have access to dictate the image quality of current games. Resolution (which is how most reviewer still test) is almost irrelevant as an indicator of performance or image quality.

The upcoming RX 9000 cards might be an option, depending on whether AMD delivers on both its promises (ML based FSR4, etc.) and competitive (read: substantially lower against what you see in typical old school bar charts) pricing of the cards against Geforce's. But even then, lingering issues, such as a lack of a widely supported Reflex alternative, CPU limited drivers, lack of HDR support, etc. are still questions to be addressed on an individual basis. Really a huge list of reasons.

>>103996036
What's the source on this?

>>103996922
The idea that cream of the crop candidates wouldn't happily jump ship to a better paying job because "i-i-it's NVIDIA" is laughable.

Fintech is dog shit nobody wants to work in that, everyone wants to work at Nvidia, the work culture, the pay, the benefits, it's like working at McDonald's vs a 4 star restaurant.

>>103996947
Nonsense. Nvidia is literally the best company in the world. If you didn't get there you weren't wanted.

>>103996938
>What's the source on this?
https://www.phoronix.com/review/jan2025-linux-gpus

>>103996852
>"DLSS looks better than native" horseshit that has literally never been true.
Absolutely false, demonstrably false. Even AMDumboxed said that DLSS Quality at 1440p or 4K has better than or equivalent to native image quality in 2/3s of the tested games.

>still a whole 6 days before I can pre-order my 5090 FE
I don't want the bulky old aib dog shit coolers that are just all copy paste 2kg of metal and 3 chassis fans. I want the innovative cooler. The one designed by the happy jew gutenberg. But I probably won't be able to get one.

>>103996948
Tell people making millions a year at Quadrature that they're equivalent to McDonald's employees

>>103996528
only if you can find a white version

>>103996975
Hey look, here he is!

>>103996979
>actually 8 days
Yup just ate a whole bottle of aspirin

Where is the 9070

>>103996852
>>103996975 (me)
And here's an example, Death Stranding, which AMDumboxed marked as DLSS+++ vs native.

>>103997008
There was way to much shitposting yesterday (and maybe the day before?) so I just avoided the thread

>>103997036
AMD shat the bed so hard that the new cards won't launch until March, even though retailers have them in stock literally right now. I don't know if there are even any rumors circulating about when the review embargos lift.

>>103996602
Dude, what? I'm seeing nothing under 700$ used on ebay. My budget is 300$ tops to replace my 200$ 8gb card.
Plus this Arc would be new amd is a deal seeing as no one is selling a B580 under $360.
t. Poorfag, if it wasn't obvious.

even if you don't want a 5090 you should buy one just to scalp
run up the bands lil nigga

Search engines are once again useless. Logically thinking, the newer option is probably better, but something resembling specifics would be helpful to determine if I want to burn the money.
>mini-upgrade
>reusing everything, but replacing the mobo and ram to make the move from ddr4 to ddr5 now that lower latency ddr5 kits are around
>no current plans to add or replace any hardware barring unforeseen failures, gpu upgrade ideas canceled due to various annoyance reasons
Assume the use case has memory speeds being important, but not so important that replacing the CPU with one that supports higher clock speeds than those listed, natively and without OC.

Current kit:
>CL16 3200Mhz
Considered new kit:
>CL28 5600Mhz
Going from 64GB to 64GB. How much of a performance difference would I expect, and would it be worth the $370+ tax?

>>103997055
wtf
why would a store take merch months before they can sell it? Warehouse space isn't cheap

Do any of you guys use a 27" monitor and sit at arm's length of it? Doesn't it feel too big? I'm a long time laptop user, gonna build a PC soon and trying to figure out what monitor to choose, 1440p 27" or 24".

>>103997121
Mine are maybe an arm and a half's length away, and I have long arms. Any closer and I get eye strain

>>103997121
You'll get used to it. 27" 1440p is a perfect size:resolution match.

>>103996993
I would in a heartbeat, but it'll be impossible to find such version at this price.

>>103996852
what's your opinion on the 4070 super vs rx 7800 xt question? It's supposed to be a gift to my brother and he mostly plays competitive games. He's playing Marvel Rivals lately and that game is optimized like ass. The goal would be to make him able to play at least within the 140 - 180 fps range at 2k.

>>103997121
>Do any of you guys use a 27" monitor and sit at arm's length of it?
Yes
>Doesn't it feel too big?
No, I'd go 32" if I could
>I'm a long time laptop user,
That explains your concerns
>gonna build a PC soon and trying to figure out what monitor to choose, 1440p 27" or 24".
Definitely 27" I'd even go 27"@4K

how do i control my anger issues? how do i stop beating up my dog

>>103996852
>"DLSS looks better than native"
it clearly does though and DLSS4 will look even better

>>103997154
this is actually a known bug with adrenaline

>>103997110
buy the best price performance once like it will matter
you dont wanna overspend on a laptop anyway
but get the best screen u can in it
do you need a dgpu? sounds like a jet engine

>>103997121
I main a laptop and I used a 32" and for 4k it's not large enough to realize all the quality at the distance anyway
27 is alot smaller
24 is pretty small
a grand total of one 1440p 24 exist so u have to go 27 almost for 1440p

>>103997154
I recommend SUI

>>103997099
Current rumors are that AMD expected the Nvidia cards to be more expensive, and are now panicking because they have to price their cards a lot lower than they planned. So, they're now waiting to see how well the Nvidia cards work in the wild before pricing and selling their cards.

The best company in the world

>>103997168
This could be a funny anon or an unintentionally funny chatgpt response

with two monts delay the drivers should be perfect

>>103997185
Do you think it's possible they delayed it to try to cram in some kind of MFG* to look better on paper?

OH SHIT

>if a monitor is ips, they say so in the product title
>if a monitor is va, you have to dig through the specs and sometimes they don't even mention it there
ips confirmed the superior technology

>>103997230
i'm glad someone was amused

>>103997096
>would it be worth the $370+ tax?
Absolutely not, at least on average. Very few games actually make use of the extra bandwidth. Stalker 2 is one of the exceptions. In pic related, the 5600X is using DDR4 and the the 12400 is using DDR5. Usually, they're right next to each other in benchmarks. Again, this is an outlier scenario, not anything close to the norm. Generally if you want better performance you spend on CPU first and only spend on RAM after you have the best CPU

>>103997249
>>>if a monitor is va, you have to dig through the specs and sometimes they don't even mention it there
another reminder why displayspecifications.com is so necessary

>>103997121
You'll adjust to 27" quickly
I sit arm's length or close to my 27"

>>103997143
>Marvel Rivals
As an example, Marvel Rivals doesn't have AMD Anti-Lag 2. It does however have Nvidia Reflex. You don't buy Radeon for competitive games because of it's lack of support (almost no one on PC uses Radeon) and because it's often heavily CPU limited below Geforce, especially in DX11 titles
Anyway I'm not sure how you can be asking this question after I already posted a Marvel Rivals benchmark for you showing that even the base 4070 outperforms the 7900 XTX with better image quality

>>103997143
No idea. I personally go with AMD because they're better about supporting open standards instead of focusing on proprietary stuff, and also because I want to support the underdog. I don't play any esports titles or the like, so just look at reviews and benchmarks yourself.

Generally speaking, though, AMD is a more cost-effective option for pure rasterization, so if your brother doesn't care about AI features or ray tracing, then I'd personally go with AMD. Again, though, try to find benchmarks for the games he likes and make decisions based on that.

>>103997171
>>103997145
>>103997133
>>103997140
Thanks guys. Doubt my nearest tech shops are going to allow me to test monitors in actual usage. I think I'll cut out cardboard rectangles of each size and compare them, kinda ghetto way but it should work well enough.

>>103994815
I have this case and that figure

>>103997234
It's possible, since apparently FSR4 is restricted to the 9000 series, but I wouldn't count on it.

Want to upgrade my PSU to remove all the cable jank, since I have a 4090. What should I go for?

>>103997249
depends on the manufacturer, all MSI monitors are open about their panel type

>>103997246
synthethic slop

>>103997121
I use a 42" and sit at rougly an arm length
Size feels perfect

>>103997253
A pity. Stalker 2 is one of the things I'd like better performance in, but yeah. Both indicated RAM speeds in my post are the "official" max supported speeds for my processor anyway.

>>103997143
>Marvel Rivals lately and that game is optimized like ass
You really should that that game has been used quite extensively in Nvidia 50 series marketing. It should give you a big indication on where that developers' intentions are with.

When are the reviews out tomorrow?

>>103997249
this is what happens when you use amazon
as an european with web stores with non shit uis, that shit is horrendous
and you are not wrong
va is slop and more downfalls, va is modern day tn
and tn is better than both for games

>>103997281
24 and 27 are not big really
and 24 1440p non scaled ppi is tinyer
1080p 24 or 27 1440p

>>103997047
>vaseline smooths out the edges
a job well done, handjobs all around

>>103997249
Jeff really needs to hire a guy who's entire job it to go through tech merchandise and make sure the sellers are listing everything properly. You can't even use search filters 99% of the time because stuff is listed poorly.

>>103997350
jeff too busy looking at the titties he paid for to care even Zuck miring

>>103997194
Jesus Christ, now there are even workplace benchmarks

>>103997213
Not him, but I think it's probable that FSR4 wasn't ready. It was only at CES as an unnamed "research project". Both AMD and reviewers know that competent upsampling is required for new cards. LIkely between that and the rumored pricing issues, AMD realized it was going off half cocked and decided to waitTM. That's why AMD Steve is running damage control on twitter, because he knows that AMD needs that time to allow him to shill the cards properly and semi discretely. He's already putting FSR and DLSS side by side in benchmarks with no comment about image quality

AMDumboxed is revamping its graphics card reviews to include major focus on RT and upsampling, and if AMD can't field good upsampling, the RT will be nearly useless.

>>103996546
>are you referring to the qdoled? 450~in true black mode and the hdr1000 mode had 1k peak
>why so mad?
I don't really get the spec sheet of that thing, on the one hand it states "hdr 1000 nits max", on the other hand VESA HDR 400, which is definitely not 1000 nits max. might be the usual anus scamming shit

>>103996598
buy a used one you can look at beforehand
bought mine recently for 205 instead of 360 and it was almost new with no dead pixels or other garbage

>>103997304
Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200

>>103997047
>avoided the thread
Thats crazy, I do the same when you turn up

>7800X3Ds are starting to appear under legitimate retailers on aliexpress again, if with higher pricing
Latebros it's not over yet. Cheap X3Ds in two more weeks, hold the line!

>>103997371
Regretting that Asian wife right about now

Which 27" 1440p screen would you guys reccomend? I want something good but that wont break my bank

Is the ASRock PG27QFT2A on OP post good?
I read somewhere that Asus TUF Gaming VG279QM is very good.

>>103997463
I'd recommend my Dell monitor, but they don't sell it anymore, so sucks to be you lol

>>103997438
Time for you to go
My thread now

>>103997463
AOC Q27G3XMN

>>103997457
Zuck is a Chinese asset. His wife is the daughter of one of their top generals, and he named their son after some lauded CCP leader.

>>103997495
Ill leave for today, but make sure you kill yourself before I get back

Mods need to make an nvidia general so the fanboys have somewhere else to jerk off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mWMP96UdGU

finally some sense

>the microsoft jews have finally started doing DX12 ULTIMATE REQUIRED
>new Nvidia or used Nvidia is a non-starter, even a base 4070 is more expensive than a 7800XT, plus they're scalped to shit and ungodly expensive in pastaland
>AMD not releasing until March
I'll be honest I'm liable to kill myself.

>>103997414
the oled monitors dont have insane hdr compared to tvs but also depends on each makers implementation even with the same panel
but anyway I calibrated it in windows and it could do 1k but anyway

>>103997591
>jews

uhm sweetie? we dont like nazi subhuman scum here

>>103997495
>AOC Q27G3XMN
2x the price of same tier IPS in /my region/ eu does not make this good
if it was the same price maybe
such slop
not him btw
regional pricing of monitors is a motherfucker

>>103997576
There should be a /wpcbg/ and a /lpcbg/ to clear the AMDrones out of the main thread

>>103997587
He's not really fully right. Occationally you can have screen tearing with G-sync On V-sync Off, but if your frametimes are stable, this doesn't happen.

>>103997603
Honestly it's redundant, just saying Microsoft would've sufficed.

Old motherboard
>tab to release gpu is at the end of the slot, easily accessible
New motherboard
>tab is in the middle covered by the gpu so you have to wedge something between the card and the board to get it
Stop this

How are the prices looking for the 5070 in euroland? Still 200~300 euro above MSRP?

What do you think about 27 1080p display?
Are pixels real that big?

>>103997699
awful

>run CPU at 100%
>sits at 70C
>run game at 30-40% CPU utilization
>immediately hits 75C from the GPU blasting its exhaust into the airflow of the CPU fan
huh

>>103997699
pixels are too big. 27 inch is 1440p usually

>>103997696
You're not getting one for MSRP so double that and you'll get your street price.

>>103996740
I like that guy

>>103997495
Do you just live in these threads to post your autism graphs?

>>103997738
Haha, wonderful. Guess I'll see if AMD doesn't fuck up (they will).

I want a founders edition 5080

>>103997696
My store isn't releasing card or price info until launch, as always

>>103994884
cool music

>>103997750
He's paid to do so

>>103997850
The Nvidia website says 650 for the 5070 (lol) and 800(?????) for the 5070ti. So my takeaway is that the 5070 is actually a 5060ti.

GIVE NOW. WAIT IS POOP.

>>103997881
what does non-msrp mean

>>103997892
aib cards cost more

>>103997615
I knew you'd respond to me. Your contractual obligations demand it.

>>103997892
10-15% markup for more rgb and a 2-3% overclock (which will translate to 0.5-2% more performance in real life)

>>103997879
Honestly if AMD can keep the 9070XT at the same price the 7800XT is right now (gigantic, capital if), they might gain some market share in Europe.

>>103997898
Not all of them. The lowest end ones go go for msrp usually. Are they shit cards? No. But they are chunky and ugly and won't even perform better than the FE in spite of being bigger... I'd get one as a last resort if I fail the FE preorder.

>>103997942
God I hate Asus

>brand new pc
>coil whine
Kill me

>>103997972
What IS coil whine? How do I know if my PC has it?

>>103997879
Retardbabble.
4070 Super has been around 650-680 for months now, my friend got one for 625, non-Super for way less.
Literally matches street pricing, and it's maybe 5% faster than the Super.

>>103997967
Even the above msrp models are chunky and ugly. I don't want a 3-4 slot concrete block in my case. If I can't get FE idk maybe I have to wait for a water block model.

>>103997972
yeah ive dealt with the coil whine on this 4090 since i got it on launch day. cant wait to get the 5090 FE which im willing to bet will have no issues

Fuck Rivets

what's wrong with asus?

Christ don't tell me there are asus shills in this thread now. the AMD ones were bad enough

>>103998012
Same.

>>103997993
>Retardbabble.
I'm quoting the literal Nvidia website though. If my comment about the 5070 upset you, it's just a joke since the 150 euro jump is pretty big.

>>103998030
>If my comment
Was retardbabble, it was

>>103997998
I wish manufacturers would return to exposed heatsinks

>>103998042
Why are you so angry

>>103998023
Ugly
Bulky
Literally markets as "EPIC GAMER" bullshit.

>>103997696
>what is vat
>what is conversion rate
Europoors don't even have a grasp on their own countries' economic situations

>>103998027
She looks like she fucks white human men

>>103998143
Dumbass, I'm talking about European MSRP, not American.

>>103998026
No problem with nvidia shilling though, eh?

>>103997710
the fuck is your build? sounds broken

>>103998164
yeah because nvidia actually makes good gpus

>>103997967
>>103997942
I s2g if these AIB cards aren't 2 slot I'm gonna shit

Using the ap201 with a hdd on the front panel below the PSU. I can mount the PSU at the highest slot and it's pretty firmly in there, but it's slightly angled away from being flush with the case so I can't screw it in. Will that be a problem?

>>103998201
>it's okay for a company to psyop me as long as I can CONSOOM
what a pathetic loser kek

9070xt matches 4080 so even if it is $699, its still a massive win

i have on order a 7600x build but is it worth it to get the 5700x3d for like 20 more bucks? i dont own am4 im on lga1151 but i have 32 gigs of 3600 cl18

lads, should I buy an used 3090 from a reputable source for 600 USD?

>>103998205
they won't be. nvidia only innovated on cooler design because they have infinite money to throw everywhere like an olympic swimming pool of money with millions of dollars getting picked up by a light breeze blowing into the wind and nobody gives a shit. AIBs are less than 1% as wealthy as nvidia. Their margins are thinner, they all have landed a design that just werks and took very little r&d to arrive at. Strap chassis fans to a big ass heatsink, wow. it would take millions of dollars to slim down the design and they just have no reason to do it. They will use the exact same cooler designs as the 4090 had.

>>103998244
wtf are you talking about

>>103998259
>9070xt matches 4080
Just like the 5070 matches with the 4090

>>103997591
Oh no, in 2025 an API version from 2020 is becoming mandatory. How terrible. Yet another victim of 7th gen consoles causing the august 2004 9.0c API to be the standard for 11 years straight and the effects that had on the unintelligents' brains.

>>103998023
Their mobo software is even more "suspicious, esl, and looks like malware"-core than anyone else's, horror stories about bad customer support.

>>103997710
I hope someone tests cpu thermals with how those cards are blowing hot air straight up.

>>103998296
I'm saying you should kys, basically

rate my grafics card

>>103998259
Matching a 5070 Ti in raster and losing in RT for $50 less would be a massive win? Sounds like a seamless continuation of AMD's losing strategy to me.

Really wish Nvidia dropped the meme cable

>>103998259
amdelusional

>>103998429
I used to hate it until I got a quality custom cable
I just hate Nvidia made native right-angle cables unusable

>>103998259
I would rather pay the $50 more and get a 5070ti
$700 is too much to be paying for any amd gpu

>>103997942
the new asus cards dont look too good, the astral one is worse that the stric oc ones which were amazing, my delusion is the reserved stric oc for the 5090ti

>>103998259
>$700 for a dead architecture card that barely matches dlss2 4 years late
literally no one is winning here, not even the shills since they do it for free

>>103997591
>pastaland
I strongly doubt Geforce is overpriced compared to Radeon. The 7900 XTX should be cheaper than the base 4070 as per >>103996938. Even accounting for games where you wouldn't use DLSS for some reason (game doesn't have it, there's some problem with the implementation, whatever) there's all kinds of other issues that must be accounted for (like driver overhead >>103996588), so either holding RT constant or holding DLSS Quality vs native res on Radeon is a good approximation for their relative worth

>>103998259
>comparing radeon to geforce
Retarded. Radeon != Geforce. Compare it to last gen Radeon, which would mean a $100 discount against the 7900 XTX with less VRAM (which you memers can't stop talking about)

Obviously the 7900 XTX isn't stronger than 4080 Super even if we compare raster while gimping the Geforce cards (no RT, no DLSS)

>>103998292
Only if you need the VRAM for Blender or something like that

>>103998429
Even AMD Steve likes 12VHPWR

>>103997099
The wholesalers will likely have the cards already and then deliver it to the retailers once the retailers have sales. Some retailers will keep cards in their stores but even if they had to have a 100 gpu boxes I doubt they’d run up big storage costs. Another thing that logistics providers do is keep a huge warehouse full of stock and then when the order comes from the retailer it is shipped by the logistics company with it never going in the hands of the retailer. Some of my clients are logistics companies and this is what they do with paint and any product basically. But there should be no reason why the retailer needs to run into storage issues.

>>103998543
based, why isn't marketing this kino anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ir8NS3sIrk

Does he think people read his posts

why did old cards have all these cool images and used to include like 3-5 fucking 50 dollar games when today you get a cardboard and no games maybe 1 fucking cdkey if its a promotion

Still on AM4 (specifically a Ryzen 5 5600G) and thinking about a RAM upgrade. Currently on
>2x8GB 3000MHz CL16
and thinking about
>2x16GB 3600MHz CL18
to make use of the infinity fabric not giving a shit about CL. Worth?

>>103998543
>French is the second language instead of just Spanish and Chink
Holy kino

>>103998598
no, this will make almost no tangible difference, just upgrade the cpu instead

>>103998143
€ > $
But sure European consumers are used to being presented with the post tax sales price.

>>103998161
If you buy a burger in burgerland with a MSRP of $10 that's the buisness' bottom line. You still have to pay your server a tip, and pay local tax, and pay the state tax and drive some 8-20 miles to your nearest burger place and back. Nobody is actually going to give you a $10 dollar burger for $10 dollars.

>>103998543
>>103998566
Are you saying this doesn't speak to you?

>>103998172
It kinds of seems like the inevitable result with this card given how far forward it vents to be honest, as soon as the GPU fan kicks in it's like +20C to the intake temperature.

>>103998633
he only mentioned the speed not the capacity and the speed will be irrelevant
and if you don't need more ram then more ram won't help you at all

Is Fan Control still the go to or has it been replaced with something?

>>103998698
>2x8GB
>2x16GB
illiterate

>>103998597
Those cards are bit for gaymers, get the hint.

>>103998827
read the motivation, not the specs you retard

Can I use an M.2 to PCIE adapter to create another PCIE slot on this mini ITX motherboard? I want to create a SFF winxp machine but it needs a dedicated GPU and sound card. Is it possible to get PCIE devices working via NVME and if so, will the bandwidth be high enough?

>>103998633
why not just buy 2 more matching 8gb sticks? you'll gain more memory bandwidth by adding another channel

>>103998864
>pcie sound card
but why?

>>103997710
No one forced you to use air cooling or place your GPU right next to your CPU heatsink .

>>103998864
If Terry could feel connected to God through a VM you should be able to get WinXP nostalgia without having to buy ewaste

>>103999109
but I already have all the ewaste and the motherboard is newly manufactured.

Budget: $2500
Country: USA
Anyone can spoonfeed me a build for that many shekels?

>>104000035
When you've bought a 5080 for MSRP ask again

>>103994815
I will buy AMD