Grow up

>>103975682
i don't want one despite being an amdgpu dick licka

I'm waiting for the 5090 because I'm not poor also I'll probably have to wait even longer than March so take that

>>103975682
>16gb vram
even my shitty gpu has 20

>>103975682
Anyone know if these Gpus will be more power efficient?

>>103975682
Oh no, I'm so upset! What will I do in the meantime without a mid-range AMD graphics card??

>>103975682
I dont want a ninety seventy I want an RX9800XT. fucking AMD goofed up

>>103975682
Between the repeated price fixing collusion and this someone with clout needs to get the FTC involved.

>>103975682
I’ll just get a 5070ti then, bye

>>103975682
Nigga I bought a 6800XT last summer for 300 bucks, I don't need no new shit in the next few years.

>>103976943
This, but 5080, It's the same as the 4080 but with AI for high res.

>>103975823
>pajeeVidia
>not poor
poo in loo

>>103975682
I can wait with my 3090

i wonder whe based lisa will fire radeon marketing team

its not like that they dont have money

but sir, i need to acquire the brand new technology today
not purchasing quickly is not virtuous

>>103978235
Damn I got one for less referb 4yrs ago my 69xt and 79xtx way better
Wasn't

>>103978538
Radeon operates on a shoestring budget so she doesn't care. Her main priority right now is getting their AI software stack up to par with Nvidia on training where there was an article a short while ago from some analyst on that comparing their MI300 to the H100, never mind Blackwell and MI300 losing to the H100 despite better hardware because of shitty software. Everything else is secondary to that right now for her.

>>103978538
it made all sense when they talked about udna
rdna 4 quite possible is the last rdna generation so why bother with it

>>103978538
They literally just fired 1000 people (indians) from radeon because of bad performance

>amd gave up again
5090 it is then

You know, I dont give a fuck desu. I'm not getting anything out of the get go because I'm not a braindead consooom faggot.
But to be fair, ayymd have no vision or strategy whatsoever besides
>quickly, lets see what nvidia is doing/did/will do/what are the reviews so we can price/release accordingly hehe
It looks weak and pathetic, despite amd having money and resources.

>>103978868
what is this ayyymd fascination with poos? they have been dropping the ball for like 10-15 years with occasional succes. Why even hire indians at this point at all? Sure as shit they still pay them very good salary, why not higher slavs/germans etc.

I currently have a 3070 and I planned on buying myself a 9070 xt and my wife's son a 9070 xt to replace his 1080 but now that AMD is incompetent, my plans have changed to just buying a 5080 in 10 days and giving my step-son my 3070.

>>103978929
american corps have curry fever

AMD must be one of the single most incompetent companies in existence. Njudea has been begging them to take over the market by gigajewing everybody but AyyMD for decades has refused to release competitive cards it right (with some fluky? exceptions).

>>103979605

What would be "competitive" for you, anon?
Better performance? Easier said than done
Lower pricing? With the chip craze still going on, it wont happen
More vram? Shit i wish, 32gb of vram at the price of an amd card would sweep the marker, even if it's slow

>>103975682
This feels like the 8970 if the 7970 was absolute shit

>>103979731
They need to find a new consumer profile. AMD cannot compete on unoptimized AAA slop titles because Nvidia has the mindshare and the tech.
My opinion, AMD should completely focus on raster performance and go for esports gamers by optimizing heavily for those titles. Goal should be to have the highest framerates at 1080 and 1440 while reducing latency to the max, and also being vocal about how DLSS hurts visual clarity in competitive games.

>>103979743
The 7970 was shit. And there was no 8000 series but the 290X was great. I'm not sure how to interpret your post.

>>103979967
Fuck you the 7970 was goated. Also, it was called 8970 for a year (2013) before they renamed them to 200 series.

>>103980004
The 7970 was the original "40% faster for 60% more money" card. It's even worse when you consider that the 6950 could be unlocked to a 6970 in which case the 7970 was 40% faster for literally double the price.

It was so bad that Nvidia had their GTX 600 series launch scheduled for two weeks after HD 7000, but the only chip they had ready was GK100, so they just laughed and canceled their event and launched the GK104 (which should have been the 660 Ti) as the 680 Ti three months later. Eventually big Kepler came back as the GTX Titan for ONE THOUSAND DOLL HAIRS, and that's how we got to where we are today.

>>103980004
It was called 8970 just as much as the 5700xt was called the rx690
I.e. not at all

>>103975834
Nope. Not telling.

>>103980192
>AIslop
>Radeon

lol you zoomers are just all uninformed and angry

>>103978929
Yuros can’t code just like jeets and they only work for 40 hours a week instead of 60+ like curryniggers

>>103980103
>>103980159
Why tf you lying?

>>103980103
>>103980159
>unlock a 2gb card to 3gb
The 7970 in 2011 gave you vram and perfomance that wasn't beaten till the 980 in late 2013.

The 7970 was single handedly responsible for AMD's marketshare until the maxwell refresh when the GCN 3 and Poolaris shitfest that literally transformed AMD from "That plucky company that goes toe-to-toe with Nvidia" to "Eeew, look at that cheap OEM trash".

Get tf outta here you ignorant fags.

Nvidia should delay their launch until April lmao.

>>103980732
What are you accusing me of lying about? That the 7970 was $200 more expensive than the 6970 and barely 40% faster? That's easily verifiable.

>>103980810
The 6970 was 2GB. There wasn't any reason for more than that at the time, and you could damn near buy two of them to crossfire for the same price as a 7970.

>>103980939
Also, here's a comparison between the 7970 (launch price $550) and a 6990 (launch price $800 but approximates 2x 6950, launch price $300x2=$600). On top of that you could unlock the 6950s into 6970s for even more performance.

I'm sick of giant GPUs. 4k/60fps ARM gaming when?

>>103980691
>yuros
???
AMD is a pure americlap glowneger company like Nvidia and Intel

>>103975682
PAPER
LAUNCH
AGAIN

>>103981182
It's the opposite of a paper launch. They have stock but no announcement.

>>103975682
>SEE THIS? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT UNTIL DECEMBER

FTFY, unless you want to pay a scalper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b3DrLXYt2g

>>103975823
>I'm not poor
Then you'd be waiting for Blackwell Titan

Oh noooo, the card I'm waiting for is worse than the card they have out right now! Christmas is ruined〜

>>103981170
eastern/southern yuro, colombia and brazil are the premier non india hiring locations for cheap tech people

>>103981782
>/g/ays still posting MLID "leaks" and rumors
the absolute state of this faggot board

>>103982161
His utter seethe about ARC is hilarious.

>>103975682
I'm stuck working until March 22nd with zero days off anyway. No rush.

literally what is the point of the 9070

>>103975682
you'd have to be retard to buy this dud card

>>103975682
My uncle works for AMD, and he gave me a 9070.

>>103978929
They actually recently dumped a bunch of cash into taiwan expansions and are pivoting away from india.
>Slavs/germans
Not enough history with computer hardware.

>>103982511
Cost refresh

>>103982161
How dare we post about technology relevant to the thread

Kek, cope harder faget.

>>103982161
>seething about shit that doesn't affect you
touch grass.

>>103982161
Which leaker discord are you in, sister?

>>103981577
>32GB VRAM
lmao

>>103982161
AMDrones will never learn

Holy shit, /g/ was right, they really are going -$50 than Nvidia.

>RX 9070 series price rumor suggests AMD’s new GPUs will be more expensive than we first thought
https://www.pcguide.com/news/rx-9070-series-price-rumor-suggests-amds-new-gpus-will-be-more-expensive-than-we-first-thought/

>>103975682
>16GB
You can keep it

>>103983707
A faggot who makes shit up and is never right is "relevant" to this thread? Shut the fuck up, retard

Do they usually drop 7xxx series prices when a new release comes or not? Kinda want to snag a 7700xt for an upgrade but dont know if I should wait.

>>103987609
If you're buying that shit card, why would you wait? You're already buying a garbage gpu, waiting doesn't matter.

>>103986625
>$70 less than the RTX 5070 MSRP
50 dollars adjusted for recent inflation.

>16gb
waiting for intel at this point, if they don't deliver, i'm ride or dying my 1080 through the rest of the year.

Is 2 months a long time for zoom zoom zoomers????

>>103987964
Nvidia is clearly the superior company. They come out and list the price of the GPUs and when they will release.

AMD keeps gaslighting us, moving the goalpost over and over. Treating us consumers like idiots.

Fuck them, I'm done with AMD gpus.

>>103988003
$1000+ fake frame gpus is treating consumers like idiots too.

Fuck AMD. I'm going back to nvidia at least they have a flagship. I'd rather use Windows than be stuck with mid-range junk.

>>103988022
computer games are fake, they aren't real, why does it matter? I'm getting 240fps on my 4k oled because of those fake frames in a fake game for kids and adult children.

>>103988075
It matters because you're a moron if you pay $1000+ for a fake frame generator.

>>103988109
It gives excellent performance and performs better than anything AMD has, even without frame generation. It's also future proof as more games are released coded with ray tracing as default.

>>103981577
>abstaining from buying now
what are you, poor? Just buy a 5090 and wait for the titan

People spend tens of thousands of dollars on their hobbies, like boating, jetskis, dirt bikes, campers, etc.

Spending $1000 to $2000 on a gpu for your computer hobby is nothing.

It's only a big deal if you're a bottom tier in the wagie caste system in America, which I suspect AMD fanboys and people who cry about Nvidia pricing are.

>>103975682
I will have to suffer my 4090 until then? What have I done to deserve this cruel fate?

>>103975824
16GB is just enough for 1440p.

>>103988109
Nigger you've been complaining about lack of innovation but here nvidia turns your 1080p60 game to 4K240 with negligible quality loss and you're complaining it's not real. All computer graphics are tricks to achieve the best quality with minimal performance cost. If you're so inclined you can still run the game on ultra low settings to get 200 fps with upscaling disabled.
Face the facts it's just sour grapes because you're outpriced out of everything that isn't $250 low end card.

>>103988344
computers are for nerds

I'm fine with my 6700 XT,

I'll wait for the 9090 XT

>>103986625
they are waiting for techtubers to shit on rtx 5070 because Nisrael hyped it up as 4090 performance when reality is rasterisation is only 10-15% according to their graphs its literally rtx 4070 super with faggy fake frames tech nobody uses

>>103982511
To make the 5070 look like a rip off. 12GB for more $.

>>103987751
> 4GB and XX fps more for $70 less
Not bad a deal if true.

>>103988003
> I'm done with AMD gpus.
How many did you own?

>>103988531
It's a horrible deal because the software stack is worse than nvidia's up and down the whole thing.
>>103988545
Not that anon but I have a 6950.

>>103980103
Wrong, GK100 had a critical hardware bug and Nvidia didn't want have a repeat of GF100 debacle. That's why it never was commercially released and was re-spun and redesign as GK110 that came out later. GK104 was only chip that had ready to good up against Tahiti.
Tahiti was faster then GK104 but it ate more power and reference powers had shitty VRAM issues. The Nvidiot shills went overtime into the whole "AMD/ATI were trash" during this period to downplay Tahiti. It wasn't until GK110 that Nvidia regain the crown briefly until Hawaii took it back for several months until Maxwell which where Nvidia started their domination that holds today.
Kepler Titans were only special because Nvidia had accidentally kept the FP64 logic intact and this end-up cannibalizing their Quadro/Telsa Kepler sales.

>>103988545
Three gpus and three cpus. I have no issues with their cpu team, it's the GPU team that is lackin.

>>103988609
i would rather adrenalin than nvcp/app/geforce experience

>>103988673
>GK100 had a critical hardware bug
The bug was that it was too fast and Nvidia decided they'd rather sell the 660 Ti for $700 than the 680.

>>103980103
Complete rewriting of history. Actually horrifying to see someone post this Orwellian shit. The 7000 series was amazing.

>>103988855
>Complete rewriting of history. Actually horrifying to see someone post this Orwellian shit
So, business as usual then

>>103975824
What do you need 20gb for? I've never come close to maxing out 8GB.

>>103988477
retard if you dont think amd is gonna make a 9080 and 9090

>>103988855
>The 7000 series was amazing.
It was fucking trash lmao. Literally 60% more expensive than the 6970 for 40% more performance. Imagine jerking off AMD for doing exactly the same thing you complain about Nvidia doing. Oh wait, you don't have you imagine. I hope you're at least getting paid for your shilling.

I likely will not even have enough money anymore when that bad boy drops.

>>103988821
Incorrect, the silicon had a critical bug that required a complete re-work you dimwit. At the time, Nvidia recently was reeling from GF100 debacle and it didn't want another embarrassing slip-up.
Nvidia would have release the GK100 if it was ready and was decisively faster than Tahiti and would sold it at a higher price point at the time ($649, the launch price of the 780) and would have moved at the time and left AMD in the dust. The simple truth is that it wasn't ready and they had wait until the fixed silicon a.k.a GK110 780 that came out a year later.
They recently did the same with Maxwell which originally had a critical bug that delayed its commercial release which is why codenames are GB2xx not GB1xx

>>103989069
Holy revision batman, 7000 series was objectively faster than Kepler, but it was more expensive and ran hotter and loader plus early driver had some rough spots.
Nvidia shills went to town on the whole "AMD drivers suck" meme to convinced impressionable buyers to get Kepler SKUs (which had their own stupid software issues at the time). Kepler end-up aging poorly but it didn't matter since upcoming Maxwell was much faster and better received. Maxwell is when Nvidia took its domination that lasts to this day.

>>103988673
>>103988855
This right here is the reason why GK100 got shelved. Nvidia was expecting the 7970 to come out around $350. When it launched at $550, Nvidia was sitting on a card that was over 40% faster and more than double the cost to build, that they had originally been planning to sell at that same price. When Nvidia saw what their competition was, they just shelved the product and waited to offer their midrange product at the same price point instead. The 7970 was not an enormous win for AMD, it was the beginning of the end.

>>103989158
>7000 series was objectively faster than Kepler
No, it was about as fast as a rebadged 660 Ti. It got absolutely shit on by the real Kepler.

>>103975682
>SUPER GAMING GPU
>16GB
this is why china laughs at us

>>103989199
What

>>103989183
Wrong, GK100 had a massive bug. Designing massive chips is a PITA and getting one to work at all under schedule is nothing short of a miracle. Respins, revisions and errata are facts of life.
Sometimes a critical bug/flaw slips by that forces you start from the beginning which is what happened to GK100 and delayed it for a year in the form of GK110. The previous GF100 had architecture problems where commercial product end-up being a disappointment that was only good at compute.
Nvidia was expecting the 7970 to come out around $350.
Utter rubbish, Nvidia didn't sandbag at all. They would release a Tahiti killer if could do so back in late 2011 into mid 2012. It was fortunately that Nvidia had GK104 ready and it managed to compete against Tahiti at a lower price points and power consumption.

>>103989199
Incorrect, Tahiti (mid-version you mind of GCN) was faster than mid and Kepler chips. Hawaii was the big version of GCN and it was decisively faster than big Kepler but it came at a cost. Hawaii ate more power and was louder, more expensive to make (512-bit bus is not cheap). It sat on the gayming throne for small time before Maxwell came along and the rest is history.
In retrospect, Kepler was a mix-bagged architecture that was better received then its Fermi predecessor. Nvidia's powerful marketshare is what saved both Fermi and Kepler from becoming fiscal flops.

>>103989251
Let me explain this to you again:
GK100 was originally going to be the GTX 680 and sell for $500-600. Instead it was canceled.
GK104 was originally going to be the GTX 660 Ti and sell for $300-400. Instead they called it the GTX 680 and launched it at $500 (although you could never actually buy it at that price)

The 7970 was MUCH slower than Nvidia's planned flagship, which wouldn't have messed anything up if AMD had charged a reasonable price for it. Instead they went with a 60% price hike over their previous generation despite only being 40% faster. This triggered Nvidia to shake up their lineup and sell their midrange card as a flagship, and later on reintroduce their actual flagship card as a $1000 halo card publicity stunt.

>>103989278
>Wrong, GK100 had a massive bug.
Surely you have one (1) source for this claim not written by Charlie?

>>103989316
>Hawaii was the big version of GCN and it was decisively faster
Hawaii is the R9 290, that came two entire years after the events we're discussing and it was an entire new generation, not just a refresh.

>>103989316
>Hawaii ate more power and was louder, more expensive to make (512-bit bus is not cheap).
Funny you should point this out, because the R9 290X launched at the same price that the 384-bit and much cheaper to make 7970 did. Which is kind of the point of all of this.

>>103989342
Wrong, Kiddo.

GK100 was not ready at all. Nvidia would have gone for the throat without hesitation to make-up for GF100 debacle back in late 2011 and early 2012. If the GK100 was ready.

They were force to bring in working GK104 into the forefront to go up against Tahiti and it merely complete against it. Tahiti wasn't even the big version of GCN architecture. That came later with Hawaii. GK104 isn't exactly much smaller than Tahiti, mainly because it was only driving eight memory controllers (256-bit bus versus 12 there were on Tahiti.

You clearly are parroting the one silly tale from that one Scottish tech dude back in day.

>>103989438
Nah, Hawaii always had 16 memory controllers (512-bit bus) which gave it a massive bandwidth advantage to contemporaries that help it ageg racefully.

>Surely you have one (1) source for this claim not written by Charlie?
Nvidia never made a commercial product out of it not even as a professional version or a working prototype that have been teased. That speaks for alone itself kiddo. Nvidia prefers to keep it quiet. Nvidia did the same thing recently with Blackwell

>>103989442
>No source
Get a load of this retard. Jensen had been trying to normalize $1000 consumer GPUs since the 8800 GTX ULTRA. When they saw the embarrassment that was the 7970, he realized that this was their chance and offered the 660 Ti for $500 to test the waters. When it was a success and retards actually bought it, he knew it was finally time for the $1000 GPU.

>>103989342
idk but I was around during those days and the 7970 black edition was a beast of a card.... I personally was a poor poorfag student so I had a 660Ti but I ended up getting a 780 eventually.

>>103989484
>Hawaii always had 16 memory controllers (512-bit bus)
I never said it didn't. Do you have problems with reading? Do I need to use smaller words?

>Still no source
lmao

>>103989505
I was around during this days, too. And what I remember is taking one look at the reviews and being glad I didn't wait. 40% faster than the 6970 and 60% more expensive. For reference, the 5090 is expected to be around 30% faster than the 4090 and 25% more expensive. Look at how well that's been received around here.

>>103989497
>Jensen had been trying to normalize $1000 consumer GPUs since the 8800 GTX ULTRA.
Nah, he was playing it safe for years (slow uptakes) until the price rediscovery brought on by mining boom.
Jensen would have sold a hypothetical GK100 SKU "Tahiti killer" for $649-699 if not more and kept GK104 at its $499 starting price to undercut 7970.
Again, the GK100 silicon was simply not ready. It is not due to some grandiose plan of sandbagging.

>>103980172
kys frogpeasant

>>103989508
You said 384-bus you idiot. Hawaii was more expensive to make then its Kepler and Maxwell counterparts. There's a reason why GPUs hardly spec for 16 memory controllers in their design. It is very expensive on BOM and is often overkill for graphics.

>>103989553
>Nah, he was playing it safe for years (slow uptakes) until the price rediscovery brought on by mining boom.
Nvidia couldn't mine at the time, it was all about AMD cards. Actually, it was all about buying up as many old VLIW5 HD 5000 cards as possible, because they had better compute than the VLIW4 HD4000 cards and GCN was so comically expensive. Nvidia mining wasn't a thing until Ethereum started to take off a couple of years later.
>Jensen would have sold a hypothetical GK100 SKU "Tahiti killer" for $649-699 if not more and kept GK104 at its $499 starting price to undercut 7970.
Selling for $700 obviously wasn't the plan, since he ended up selling it for $1000. People definitely would have balked at paying $500 for a card called GTX 660 Ti, just look at the treatment the 4080 12 GB got.

>>103989578
I said:
>the same price that the 384-bit and much cheaper to make 7970 did.
Let me help you out some more:
>384-bit
>7970
>(Tahiti)
Get it, now? AMD released the 384-bit 7970 Tahiti for $550, then two years later they released the 512-bit 290X Hawaii at the same price although it's a much bigger GPU with a much wider bus and therefore cost them much more to manufacture. This means that the price of the earlier, cheaper 7970 was absolutely Jewish.

AMD is the only one that will save us from Jensens overpriced gimmick cards. Waiting an extra month for that is worth it. Only a fool still buys NVIDIAs fake frame high latency hallucinogenic shit made for movie games.

>>103988719
>retard thinks Nvidia's software stack means their driver control panel
why are ayymdfags so dumb?

>>103975682
I will wait. I will be happy.

Does Nvidia have a driver based frame gen like AFMF that works with any game or does their frame gen work only in games that include it?

>>103990490
The latter, but anything old enough not to have DLSS support will run at 200 fps anyway.

>>103990512
Ok, thanks

>>103975682
I'm waiting for UDNA, which won't come out for at least another two years, so I'll be fine.

>>103990724
>I'm waiting for UDNA, which won't come out for at least another two years
just in time for nvidia to shit all over amd (again) due to tsmc node shrink

>>103990724
Never buy into AMD's first generation of anything
Wait for UDNA2

>>103990740
>Never buy into AMD's first generation of anything
right now we're on fourth generation of RDNA and if anything it seems even worse value vs nvidia as usual

>>103990777
rdna2 is amd's greatest recent generation so he has a point

>>103975682
I just bought an RTX 4060 so I don't need it.
Thanks though.

ngl I was very optimistic for this thing. Now, dunno big time.
Nvidia seems like a scam, but atleast they know what they are doing, have some sort of vision.
Amd just fucks around and never finds out.

>>103991238
My current card is a 1050 ti. How big will the improvements be I wonder? : 0

>>103991305
Nvidia doesnt know what they're doing when they're launching gpus right before the lunar new year which guarantees low levels of stock until march

>>103981577
My microwave does 800W

>>103991351
still better than amd going
>lets wait for nvidia reviews/prices/ideas and try to adjust then hehe OH SNAP WE SHIT THE BED AGAIN

>>103989610
Mining boom came much later after Tahiti/Kepler launch. Try Polaris, Maxwell into Pascal-era.
>>103989630
Nah, 7970 was following what Nvidia set before at high-end and it had easily outperform previous big Fermi chips. The price pressure at the time forced Hawaii to launch with price despite the increase in BOM costs. Nvidia was practically throwing GK104 and GK106 out to people and OEMs.
Whales are whaling back then, almost nobody batted an eye.

>>103989610
>Selling for $700 obviously wasn't the plan, since he ended up selling it for $1000. People definitely would have balked at paying $500 for a card called GTX 660 Ti, just look at the treatment the 4080 12 GB got.
Nah, people who care about performance would have got either big Kepler or settle for mid-kepler (about same speed as 7970, but cheaper/more quiet). Stop being so hung-up on brand naming non-sense. Budget-minded types would settle for binned versions of the chips. 660Ti and smaller GK106 (660) and their rebranded successors sold like hotcakes.

>>103991351
Nvidia absolutely knows what they are doing and are playing the market and whales like a fiddle.
The bulk of Blackwell inventory are going to more lucrative professional market while the shitty scarps are being unleash to gayming whales in limited quantities playing on FOMO to drive-up prices.
The only winning move for valued-minded types is really to wait and not really play since frankly there's almost nothing out there worth playing that really needs the latest greatest. They are practically status symbols (for poor-fags, you mind) at this point

>>103990249
Discrete cards are regressing back to being hobbyist/professional only. iGPUs are going to the sensible option for budget-minded and mainstream market. They are getting priced out of the market.
I suspect 9070 might be the last of AMD's discrete solutions and they are going to cut all tides and stick being semi-intergrated and iGPUs only. Intel isn't in the fiscal shape to continue their little discrete experiment which was really just a knee-jerk response to Nvidia's ML/general stuff assaulting their HPC stronghold.

It sucks that Windows has such a stronghold grip on normies. AMD on Linux is straight up better than Nvidia or Intel on Windows.

>>103975682
I am still fine with my 5700xt, consumerist faggot-kun.

>>103991663
Tell me, does linux support the usual office software, movie stuff, games?
Because I've booted my new laptop and I was bombarded with such bloat and faulty weirdo synchronization of new widlndows, I immediately decided to either sell the laptop or wipe the software off.

>>103975834
Not at all, AMD had to increase the juice to compete with Nvidia.
Leaks are saying 9070XT is 330 watts on the box, but to push clocks it can get north of 450-500

>>103991722
Thats insane for a midrange-upper midrange card. It better perform on par with 5070ti at these wastages. Which it wont.

>>103991722
It's mega efficient if it does 3060mhz flat at 330w
You'll be able to undervolt it and run it at 2.8ghz at 220W easily

ok, and? t.9700XT

>>103991663
I give linux a shot every few years. Almost every single little annoyance from 15 years ago are still present. By now I'm convinced it'll never get better.
Once w10 support ends I'm going straight to fapple.

>>103991727
Why do you think most of the 9070XT models have 3 8 pin connectors?
That be a THIRSTY boy

>>103991858
Oh I forgot to mention, if you lurk around Chinese hardware leaker forums theres also some shit about it possibly drawing too much power from the PCIE slot and frying it.

The 9070 is a hot mess and AMD needed to delay it until March to fix it

>>103991858
>thirsty
>probably not on par with 5070ti
>arrives in 2 months
>probably will have the ususal amd problems with RT, drivers etc
The only possible advantage might be price, which is doubtful. At these levels, 100 bucks discount aint worth it. Dissapointed in red yet again.

>>103981782
What's up with the colored schizo writing all over these screenshots?

>>103991869
lmao. I just cant believe that multibil company has so many literall "solder this shit up" problems

>>103991695
NTA, but what office software do you mean? LibreOffice does everything office-related that I need. Movies aren't a problem if you install a distro that automates codec installs like Mint. Games compatibility is nowadays quite good with Proton on Steam.

>>103991928
sorry, I dont actually know anything about linux, despite being online for 20 years. Gotta catch up on this, these distro and other terminology is alien atm.

>>103991882
>No links
>no screenshots
Why are you believing random rumours on 4chins?

>>103992169
given radeon's wild mismanagement and general godawful... everything, any rumors that paint them in bad light are believable by default

It's being reported that Nvidia has a stock issue and will be up to three months later getting supply built. That is probably a reason AMD is delaying to March.

https://videocardz.com/newz/retailers-aibs-and-system-integrators-warn-of-geforce-rtx-50-series-shortages-and-delays

>>103992169
I dont actually believe rumors on 4chins, I make my own conclusion out of bits of info
>amd comparisson with 4070/4080, not new gen nvidia
>haphazard "announcement"
>release delay despite the product being on the shelf
>absence of flagship
abundance of tidbids to come to the conclusion, that amd doesnt know what to do or how even evaluate their own product.

>>103992272
>nvidia has stock issues, ie people who would go nvidia might consider amd if it's kinda similarish price/performance
>which is why amd isn't releasing their shit for 2 more months
ok

>>103981577
>32G
800L lmao

>comes march
>this thing is actually good
bizzaro land

>>103975823
>I'm waiting for the 5090 because I'm not poor
You are poor in the brain department if you're willing to shell out that much money for a gpu

Should I just take the Intel pill?

>>103975682
UOOHHH

>>103975823
>poor
the fact this word sets off MADs so much says a lot

>>103975709
How?

>>103991344
You'll be able to play games you couldn't play before at reasonable frame rates. The second you start to push settings it'll crumble. It's better but it's just not the mindblowing WOW THIS IS GREAT upgrade. If you want that it starts at 4070ti Super.

>>103993816
It will probably crumble at RT and thats it desu.

>>103993419
Ew. it only has single passthrough cooling?

>>103975682
My gpu does everything I need it to, thank you very much.

>>103975682
nobody wants this shit anyway. everyone will get a 5070/ti over it.

>>103975682
Yeah and? The normie gamers are all complaining and failing to understand the 5000 series will either quickly be out of stock or won't sell. There's no middle ground. That's the time AMD sells the 9070 and 9070XT. Perfect timing. Trying to compete wouldn't work. Let the normies and tech tubers scream, nobody gives a fuck.

I wish 9070XT wouldn't sell to that I could buy at MSRP but that won't be the case. I need an upgrade from my entry RX 6600.

>>103991722
Anon, if the box says 330W, that's maximum. It can't go above it unless you overclock.

>>103991854
And what annoyances are those? I feel more like you never really tried.

>>103993284
No. Intel cards unfortunately still kind of suck and they're not priced at MSRP.

>>103993816
Leaks put the 9070XT above the 4070Ti Super though. If true your comment is silly.

I'll wait desu. I'm somewhat optimistic and I want an upper midrange card without gimmicks and at a reasonable price.
Leaks are optimistic, the thing only left is quality and the price.

>>103994041
Its enough for 280W

>>103975682
Bought a 7700 XT on sale 2 days ago instead

>>103995843
How much did it cost?

>>103994771
Not for any price. The 5070Ti may be the "better" card but what most people really want is "good enough" for as low a price as possible. Good enough to play any game smoothly in 1440p with reasonably high settings. Nobody wants to pay several hundreds more for a marginal difference in performance or qt. Not even the most out of touch fanboy. The feel of owning the better/best wanes rather quickly but the loss of precious shekels remains.

>>103994799
Nvidia will throttle supply just as needed, just as AMD throttle supply of their 9800X3D to keep the price up. This is how it's done if you have a product that dominates the market.

>>103993816
> If you want that it starts at 4070ti Super
Excuse me, I have a 4090 but where is the
> WOW THIS IS GREAT
?
I don't feel it. I only feel it's "just enough" or "leaves to be desired" because I of course play in 4k with all bells and whistles on. This will be the case with any new card you get. You will crank up the settings until it hurts and then just get used to it as the "new normal".

>>103989004
VRChat raves and furry orgies. It's the one game that would max out even a 5090 due to how it avatars work.

>>103993209
Why? I spend almost all my free time in front of the pc. It's actually a tiny amount of money compared to the time I'll use it.

>>103996509
Honestly, from what I know my furry friends spend on VRchat the 5090 would be one of the smallest investments they'd make
Just to put things into perspective.

>>103991357
sex with kuro

>>103975682
No thanks I'll get a 5070ti instead

>>103979605
>AMD must be one of the single most incompetent companies in existence.

How many other companies you know who pushed Intel this close to bankruptcy?

>>103975682
>that big ass card with 3 fans which will struggle behind a low profile 5060
lel

>>103976245
So AMD can try to undercut Nvidia and sell close to a loss(And Subside the next RTX), or Sell close to a profitable margin for them. INTEL is selling 4080 silicon as 4060. it is not fucking colusion, they need to sell at a high price because undecutining never works.

>>103997048
please shut up they never tried to undercut nvidia seriously, the latest fiasco showed they are even greedier than jensen despite offering a shittier product

>>103979950
They actually don't. They need to do what NVIDIA is doing with their silicon. Hence UDNA. RX9000 is a filler Gen for them. IMAGINE SELLING HIGH GRADE Sillicon AT a low marging for gamers. XT is a performance qualifier on AMD that kind of silicon is server grade or laptop grade elswhere.
>>103997206
I am saying that they shouldn't giving their options.
Jensen solved GPU Marketing. selling for any less despite feture set is dumb because it undemines the resources that you are willing to dedicate/allocate to that product. t

>>103994862
see >>103991052 and >>103991344

>>103975682
i intentionally buy previous generation GPUs because its cheaper and i know at that point if its a shitshow or not.
most games dont aim at shit that doesn't exist yet so it works out fine.

>>103996197
> AMD throttle supply of their 9800X3D to keep the price up.
Wrong, there's simply a shit ton of demand for it and they are using the chiplet X3D rejects that didn't make the Epyc/Threadripper PRO cut.
AMD didn't expect demand to go crazy as it did, because Intel didn't have a clear counter for it.

>>103975682
but why

>>103979950
Wrong, AMD doesn't care for shooting high graphics. 9070 is likely the last of the gayming SKUs they are going bother with. AMD is going to stick with iGPUs and semi-integrated stuff.
The big take is that discrete graphics is regressing back to its hobbyist/professional only roots. Nvidia is just milking as much as it can before the new paradigm fully sets in.

AMD CPUs have blown away the entire market permanently but I'm still not convinced to buy a radeon that I might even drop 600 on a 5000 series at microcenter, or just order something on ebay to replace my 1070ti

>>103981577
The Titan brand is dead. Perfect GB202 chips are going only sold to professionals/HPC market as non-RTX and DGA SKUs.

>>103981782
That's without any Unreal Engine 5 game

>>103989392
>not written by Charlie?
Semiaccurate is a great source since it's subscription-based, investor-oriented and still lives to this day. Accurate info is their bread and butter.

>>104000034
slavnigger how many graphics cards are on the market today?
and how many of them can you browse that have four digits in them?

>>103991562
>Mining boom came much later after Tahiti/Kepler launch. Try Polaris, Maxwell into Pascal-era.
Buttcoin hit $30 soon after the Tahiti launch (then crashed). People were mining even before that.

>Nah, 7970 was following what Nvidia set before at high-end and it had easily outperform previous big Fermi chips.
Except Fermi was ass. I should know, I owned one. The 7970 was 60% more expensive than its predecessor and only 40% faster, which is inexcusable.

>>103975682
Do we know what they were going to ask for before nvidia caught them with their pants down with their prices?

>>103978398
kek what cope is this, jeets love AMD and android as they're too poor to afford Apple and Nvida
>Sars Apple and AMD are very good value sars!

>>103996126
holy cope. if that was true then "-$50 less" would own the market

>>104001239
Oops, fact checked myself and the boom and crashed happened about 6 months before the Tahiti launch. Still, mining was definitely a thing by then, and AMD cards were what people were using, especially the older 5000 series cards.

>>103999909
The NVIDIA RTX 6000 Ada never got the full AD102 die nor even in enterprise GPUs like the L20 because of yields penny pinching and AMD didn't bother to compete. Expect that to be the case for GB202 too.
>>103997206
>they never tried to undercut nvidia seriously
They did even back when they had a dominant position where they cut the Radeon 7970 to match the launch price of the 680. But if people are going to keep relegating them to a lower and lower price tier vs their competitor for missing features and still losing market share, there is no reason they should keep playing the role the gaming market wants to pigeonhole them into being "the company that makes shitty GPUs which will make Nvidia GPUs cheaper" especially when their CPU side is doing well and wants the TSMC wafers more than the GPU side.
The whole thing is a shitshow from the leaks and not getting a handle on the messaging but AMD hasn't done anything wrong from their point of view by waiting even though people desperately want them to compete as said above. And the 50 series is going to disappoint people more than people are expecting.
>>104001239
>The 7970 was 60% more expensive than its predecessor and only 40% faster, which is inexcusable.
Yeah because of shit drivers that took a long time to mature, and they cut prices like I said above and released the GHz version later.

>>104001629
It wasn't a boom yet you fool, it was still low-level that barely made you any real money. Mining boom started more later when certain groups inject their captial and made crypto much lucrative. That's why graphic cards of this period weren't outlandishly expensive yet and becoming hard to get.
>>104001239
>Except Fermi was ass
Only GF100 was, the revised versions didn't do that badly and sold fairly well. GTX 580 outpaced Evergreen and Cayman, but it ate quite a bit of power to get there.
Tahiti was deigned to leapfrog its Terascale and Fermi predecessor which it did. Kepler did so likewise.

>>104001459
$600 9070
$700 9070 XT

>>104003982
This is more delusional than the $2999 and $1799 5090/5080 "leaked" pricing cause at least those will be true for a few months after than cards launch.
9070 XT = $549
9070 = $449

>>103975682
1080ti here
going to wait until 2030 and never updating drivers
your turn

Hear me out.
What if it is actually good and despite rebates they decided to see the lukewarm 5070 reviews and market and price accordingly?

>>104001496
what the fuck is the shape of the uk on that map lol