/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
Previous:>>103968070
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
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Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:41:30 No.103971408
AMD will officially announce the 9070 XT the day it launches. Reviews will go live 90 seconds before it is up for sale.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:42:05 No.103971412
I just bought a 5700X3D and a Peerless Assassin 120mm Mini. Upgrading from 2600x and stock fan.
I am now waiting for the 9070xt.
I am now waiting for the 9070xt.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:44:03 No.103971430
>>103971349
Any advice? I never owned a pc before pretty much have been using a laptop forever. Im from the Netherlands and my budget is €1200 (excluding monitor keyboard mouse etc)
Any advice? I never owned a pc before pretty much have been using a laptop forever. Im from the Netherlands and my budget is €1200 (excluding monitor keyboard mouse etc)
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:46:36 No.103971455
>>103971408
>>103971412
Any chance of 9070xt being good? I'm tired of being bombarded by memewords about memetech.
>>103971412
Any chance of 9070xt being good? I'm tired of being bombarded by memewords about memetech.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:46:50 No.103971460
>>103971412
you're waiting until march then
>https://twitter.com/McAfeeDavid_AMD/status/1881435903358628047
you're waiting until march then
>https://twitter.com/McAfeeDavid_AM
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:47:55 No.103971469
>>103971430
basically you want an amd am5 6/8 core build with 32GB of 6000cl30 ram, 1-2tb nvme drive, and some sort of a graphics card. 100 euro gold psu. mATX or ATX case. simple single tower 120mm air cooler.
basically you want an amd am5 6/8 core build with 32GB of 6000cl30 ram, 1-2tb nvme drive, and some sort of a graphics card. 100 euro gold psu. mATX or ATX case. simple single tower 120mm air cooler.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:48:49 No.103971478
I'm looking to make a new high/top-end 9800X3D build primarily for games, including the regrettably grim-looking Monster Hunter Wilds. I already have a 4090 FE that I'll be transferring over, but everything else will be new. I'll take a look at the PSU buying guide, and I have to hash out what SSD and CPU cooler to get, but that still leaves a couple items I'm curious about that I bet you all might have some spicy insights on. I'd like to get as many parts as possible from my local Micro Center (US) and am not concerned with budget as long as extra money spent isn't being totally thrown away.
- Motherboard: Why in particular are the OP's ASRock motherboards recommended? Is there something special about that motherboard that sets it apart, or is it just a matter of ASRock being arguably less bad than the other brands? Do all current AM5 motherboards tend to be compatible with the 9800x3d out of the box, or will I likely to flash it with a USB drive?
- RAM: I'd like 64gb. I know that I should aim for 6000CL30 minimum, but are there other considerations I need to look out for (like single/dual-rank and die type), or is that just hair-splitting from overclockers that's only relevant in synthetic benchmarks? Is there a benefit to using manually-entered RAM timings in the BIOS over enabling XMP?
- Case: Would a case with noise-dampening foam on the side panel instead of a glass window likely help mitigate coil whine if present, or would it do nothing for that? Couldn't find anything relevant online about this. I don't really care about seeing inside my case, especially since I don't trust RGB parts/software to actually work correctly instead of being a flaky nuisance.
- Motherboard: Why in particular are the OP's ASRock motherboards recommended? Is there something special about that motherboard that sets it apart, or is it just a matter of ASRock being arguably less bad than the other brands? Do all current AM5 motherboards tend to be compatible with the 9800x3d out of the box, or will I likely to flash it with a USB drive?
- RAM: I'd like 64gb. I know that I should aim for 6000CL30 minimum, but are there other considerations I need to look out for (like single/dual-rank and die type), or is that just hair-splitting from overclockers that's only relevant in synthetic benchmarks? Is there a benefit to using manually-entered RAM timings in the BIOS over enabling XMP?
- Case: Would a case with noise-dampening foam on the side panel instead of a glass window likely help mitigate coil whine if present, or would it do nothing for that? Couldn't find anything relevant online about this. I don't really care about seeing inside my case, especially since I don't trust RGB parts/software to actually work correctly instead of being a flaky nuisance.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:51:48 No.103971506
>>103971478
ASRock used to be the shit tier boards, but since ASUS is dog shit now they're the recommended ones.
ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI generally are the recommended ones (except Gigabyte Eagle that's dog shit) for their VRMs and general features
ASRock used to be the shit tier boards, but since ASUS is dog shit now they're the recommended ones.
ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI generally are the recommended ones (except Gigabyte Eagle that's dog shit) for their VRMs and general features
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:52:49 No.103971521
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:53:43 No.103971527
>>103971460
>stores all over the world already have stock
>reviewers have had them since last month
>launch is suddenly pushed back two months
Whelp, it's fucked.
>hardware and software are looking great
Which one has the bug? If it's software they could easily fix it before launch but if it's hardware then it's absolutely over.
>stores all over the world already have stock
>reviewers have had them since last month
>launch is suddenly pushed back two months
Whelp, it's fucked.
>hardware and software are looking great
Which one has the bug? If it's software they could easily fix it before launch but if it's hardware then it's absolutely over.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:53:59 No.103971529
>>103971478
afaik asrock was cheaper and not hot garbage when tested by gamers nexus. They have *extremely* comprehensive roundups of AM5 boards. Check them out and buy the cheapest one that they say is OK and has the features you need. The Asrocks are upmarked due to being shilled now.
As for sound, higher frequencies are harder to block, but reflect less. Lower frequencies are easier to block, but reflect more. If the dampening is between you and the whine source it will help, if it's not it makes no difference.
afaik asrock was cheaper and not hot garbage when tested by gamers nexus. They have *extremely* comprehensive roundups of AM5 boards. Check them out and buy the cheapest one that they say is OK and has the features you need. The Asrocks are upmarked due to being shilled now.
As for sound, higher frequencies are harder to block, but reflect less. Lower frequencies are easier to block, but reflect more. If the dampening is between you and the whine source it will help, if it's not it makes no difference.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:54:42 No.103971537
>me after finding out about RTX 5090 supply
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:55:05 No.103971543
>>103971529
>higher frequencies are harder to block, but reflect less. Lower frequencies are easier to block
Fuck, I'm too drunk for a monday. The opposite.
>higher frequencies are harder to block, but reflect less. Lower frequencies are easier to block
Fuck, I'm too drunk for a monday. The opposite.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:55:58 No.103971556
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:57:47 No.103971589
>>103971537
they're artificially deflating supply
they're artificially deflating supply
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:58:35 No.103971600
>>103971527
if this is another rdna3 situation then lol
if this is another rdna3 situation then lol
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)15:58:58 No.103971606
>>103971460
Nobody will wait that long. 5070 is in february, and the midrange niche is covered.
Nobody will wait that long. 5070 is in february, and the midrange niche is covered.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:01:57 No.103971629
>>103971460
absolute AMDisaster
absolute AMDisaster
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:02:38 No.103971635
>>103971460
lmao. 5080 FE or 5070ti it is then.
amd are so retarded, yes launch after everyone has bought a 5000 series great idea.
lmao. 5080 FE or 5070ti it is then.
amd are so retarded, yes launch after everyone has bought a 5000 series great idea.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:04:17 No.103971652
>>103971506
>>103971521
>>103971529
Insightful, thank you all. I'll check out the GN AM5 video(s); luckily that's one of the few tech reviewers out there I'm ok watching/skimming instead of being mad there's no text article. Computer is probably not going to be in a place with the foam directly between me and the whiny components, so that's somewhat liberating and I won't really worry about it anymore.
>>103971521
>>103971529
Insightful, thank you all. I'll check out the GN AM5 video(s); luckily that's one of the few tech reviewers out there I'm ok watching/skimming instead of being mad there's no text article. Computer is probably not going to be in a place with the foam directly between me and the whiny components, so that's somewhat liberating and I won't really worry about it anymore.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:04:24 No.103971654
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:09:37 No.103971687
>>103971478
>Why in particular are the OP's ASRock motherboards recommended?
Price to performance ratio in their B650 offerings, as well as being one of the only vendor to have them with PCI-E 5.0 slots.
Their X870E were also ultra competitive at release MSRP, especially the Nova since it had exceptional I/O, VRMs and memory OC potential for a 2DPC board at only $349 (equivalent boards would cost 2x minimum).
>Do all current AM5 motherboards tend to be compatible with the 9800x3d out of the box, or will I likely to flash it with a USB drive?
The latter I believe. I would suggest getting a B850/X870/E board anyways for a 9800x3D to make sure you have the correct memory topology optimisations rather than deal with older boards.
Don't overthink the mobo choice and just pick something that fits your needs, almost all the new boards will be good enough for single CCD chip.
>I'd like 64gb
The more RAM you try to use, the harder it is on the CPU's memory controller. Also never get more than 2 sticks, the chips and motherboards are only guaranteed to run JEDEC in those setups.
>I know that I should aim for 6000CL30 minimum
64Gb greatly limits your possibilities as far as frequency go, so 6000CL30 is probably what you should buy regardless.
>are there other considerations I need to look out for (like single/dual-rank and die type)
2x32Gb kits will always be Dual-Rank A-die (at least for now), so you shouldn't worry. A-die > M-die but it doesn't really matter too much unless you're a hard OCer.
>Is there a benefit to using manually-entered RAM timings in the BIOS over enabling XMP?
Yes, the improvements in lows for gaming are noticable. See pic related, my own testing for MHWilds Beta.
>Why in particular are the OP's ASRock motherboards recommended?
Price to performance ratio in their B650 offerings, as well as being one of the only vendor to have them with PCI-E 5.0 slots.
Their X870E were also ultra competitive at release MSRP, especially the Nova since it had exceptional I/O, VRMs and memory OC potential for a 2DPC board at only $349 (equivalent boards would cost 2x minimum).
>Do all current AM5 motherboards tend to be compatible with the 9800x3d out of the box, or will I likely to flash it with a USB drive?
The latter I believe. I would suggest getting a B850/X870/E board anyways for a 9800x3D to make sure you have the correct memory topology optimisations rather than deal with older boards.
Don't overthink the mobo choice and just pick something that fits your needs, almost all the new boards will be good enough for single CCD chip.
>I'd like 64gb
The more RAM you try to use, the harder it is on the CPU's memory controller. Also never get more than 2 sticks, the chips and motherboards are only guaranteed to run JEDEC in those setups.
>I know that I should aim for 6000CL30 minimum
64Gb greatly limits your possibilities as far as frequency go, so 6000CL30 is probably what you should buy regardless.
>are there other considerations I need to look out for (like single/dual-rank and die type)
2x32Gb kits will always be Dual-Rank A-die (at least for now), so you shouldn't worry. A-die > M-die but it doesn't really matter too much unless you're a hard OCer.
>Is there a benefit to using manually-entered RAM timings in the BIOS over enabling XMP?
Yes, the improvements in lows for gaming are noticable. See pic related, my own testing for MHWilds Beta.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:10:14 No.103971692
>>103971412
How's the difference? I got a 2600x and been thinking of upgrading.
How's the difference? I got a 2600x and been thinking of upgrading.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:11:44 No.103971706
>amd not releasing 9070s til March
It's over
It's over
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:12:25 No.103971712
m-maybe theyre coming in early march, that's barely over a month delay!
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:15:05 No.103971746
Is there a cult out there mind controlling everyone to buy Hyte cases?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:15:50 No.103971753
>Gaming QD-OLED monitors selling well enough that Samsung Display is prioritizing production of their newest 5-layer OLED panels to gaming monitors instead of 83" TVs.
>Samsung Electronics has to source LG Display's newest 4-layer WOLED panel for their 2025 83" OLED TVs.
I know it's more profitable for Samsung Display to cut multiple 27" or 32" monitors worth of QD-OLED panels vs one 83" panel (plus better yields on smaller panels), but this is great news.
PC gamers will have access to the latest QD-OLED panels. I can't wait to see those MAX OLED monitors.
https://youtu.be/gq0JNhFJGFs?t=186
>Samsung Electronics has to source LG Display's newest 4-layer WOLED panel for their 2025 83" OLED TVs.
I know it's more profitable for Samsung Display to cut multiple 27" or 32" monitors worth of QD-OLED panels vs one 83" panel (plus better yields on smaller panels), but this is great news.
PC gamers will have access to the latest QD-OLED panels. I can't wait to see those MAX OLED monitors.
https://youtu.be/gq0JNhFJGFs?t=186
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:17:32 No.103971775
Told y'all it didn't exist
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:19:17 No.103971788
>>103971706
Something went tit's up again. Reviewers must have found a defect.
Something went tit's up again. Reviewers must have found a defect.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:23:43 No.103971831
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:26:59 No.103971867
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:27:11 No.103971869
>>103971430
>>103971469
Netherlands market won't let you build that within budget, get a 5700x3d, 32 gb ddr4 3600mhz cl18, b550m ds3h, or choose what you like/afford from hardware unboxed b550m video on yt, sn580/sillicon power/teampgroup 33/p3+, 7800xt or 9070/xt when it launches, 750w psu from hardware busters, case what you like, but not more than 10% total cost.
>>103971469
Netherlands market won't let you build that within budget, get a 5700x3d, 32 gb ddr4 3600mhz cl18, b550m ds3h, or choose what you like/afford from hardware unboxed b550m video on yt, sn580/sillicon power/teampgroup 33/p3+, 7800xt or 9070/xt when it launches, 750w psu from hardware busters, case what you like, but not more than 10% total cost.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:27:42 No.103971876
>>103971706
Radeon are so scared of the 5070/Ti's performance, it's shocking.
Maybe they are prototyping a 4x FSR frame gen.
They did this same shit with the initial FSR frame gen reveal.
Radeon are so scared of the 5070/Ti's performance, it's shocking.
Maybe they are prototyping a 4x FSR frame gen.
They did this same shit with the initial FSR frame gen reveal.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:27:57 No.103971879
>>103971831
Yeah. They are doing a refunds to retailers and partners, that will take time. They will undercut nvidia, but it will too late.
Yeah. They are doing a refunds to retailers and partners, that will take time. They will undercut nvidia, but it will too late.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:28:24 No.103971885
>>103971869
also a simple cooler, thermalrights a bitch to find, you can get away with freezer 36 from arctic
also a simple cooler, thermalrights a bitch to find, you can get away with freezer 36 from arctic
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:30:37 No.103971911
>>103971687
I'm very sensitive to stutter (gone down the whole g-sync/specialk/etc. rabbit hole), so that table is great to see. Thanks for the info in general.
I'm very sensitive to stutter (gone down the whole g-sync/specialk/etc. rabbit hole), so that table is great to see. Thanks for the info in general.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:31:24 No.103971921
>>103971692
It's not arrived.
It's not arrived.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:31:53 No.103971927
>>103971788
They are renaming it 9080
They are renaming it 9080
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:31:57 No.103971928
>Announcement in January
>March launch date
amd has finally lost it
>March launch date
amd has finally lost it
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:33:38 No.103971945
You hear that?
The sound of all 7900XTX selling out.
The sound of all 7900XTX selling out.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:39:11 No.103972002
>>103971945
I got an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC version of the 7900XTX a couple of weeks ago for $900 in case tariffs fucked things or I wouldn't be able to get a 9070XT (depending on reviews and availability), but the return window expires in February. I guess that's a fair price for it, but this fucking sucks.
I guess I'll see what 24GB of VRAM can do for local LLMs for funsies. I don't foresee any price drops in the near future.
I got an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC version of the 7900XTX a couple of weeks ago for $900 in case tariffs fucked things or I wouldn't be able to get a 9070XT (depending on reviews and availability), but the return window expires in February. I guess that's a fair price for it, but this fucking sucks.
I guess I'll see what 24GB of VRAM can do for local LLMs for funsies. I don't foresee any price drops in the near future.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:40:32 No.103972021
>>103971788
>>103971706
There was some talk that both nvidia and amd were rushing because of tariffs but it kind of looks like there won't be tariffs so no need to hurry.
>>103971706
There was some talk that both nvidia and amd were rushing because of tariffs but it kind of looks like there won't be tariffs so no need to hurry.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:41:20 No.103972029
Anyone recognize this case? Box is somewhere I can't find, need to know if it can mount an SSD somewhere. Gonna gamble on this thing replacing the Zalman since it has a GPU support bracket, and a damn solid one at that. Wish more cases had these and that I noticed sooner.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:43:36 No.103972048
>>103972029
looks familiar but can't remember, like 2010-2012 maybe
looks familiar but can't remember, like 2010-2012 maybe
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:43:50 No.103972050
>>103972002
9070/XT won't be good, they wouldn't keep retailers from holding on to January launch shipments if this was a winner.
It's not good, and they were spooked by MFG allowing gamers to cap out their 4K 240Hz OLED monitors.
Radeon fully bought into the AI-assisted 3D rendering btw, the AMD exec who posted the new announcement date on Twitter said AI is the future in 3D gaming.
9070/XT won't be good, they wouldn't keep retailers from holding on to January launch shipments if this was a winner.
It's not good, and they were spooked by MFG allowing gamers to cap out their 4K 240Hz OLED monitors.
Radeon fully bought into the AI-assisted 3D rendering btw, the AMD exec who posted the new announcement date on Twitter said AI is the future in 3D gaming.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:44:46 No.103972062
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:45:52 No.103972069
>>103972021
More like Radeon is waiting to see the performance figures for the 5090~5070 stack + the real utility of MFG, and working out a new pricing strategy that keeps their AIB & retail partners happy.
More like Radeon is waiting to see the performance figures for the 5090~5070 stack + the real utility of MFG, and working out a new pricing strategy that keeps their AIB & retail partners happy.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:47:18 No.103972084
>>103972050
skipping the 8000 and chasing nvidia naming was already a red flag, at this point just do a full rebrand because Radeon=bad
skipping the 8000 and chasing nvidia naming was already a red flag, at this point just do a full rebrand because Radeon=bad
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:49:19 No.103972104
What's the best motherboard choice for natively triple-booting into Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:53:26 No.103972148
>>103972104
you're looking for a psychiatrist, not a motherboard
you're looking for a psychiatrist, not a motherboard
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:53:36 No.103972154
>>103972050
Jesus. Intel actually won. I never saw that coming.
Jesus. Intel actually won. I never saw that coming.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:53:54 No.103972157
Why doesn't a company just release a card at a a price/performance level that I personally want to buy? It would be a smash hit guaranteed.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:55:51 No.103972171
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1i60pg9/amd_confirms_radeon_rx_9070_series_launching_in/
r/AYYMDEAD LITERALLY IN SHAMBLES
r/AYYMDEAD LITERALLY IN SHAMBLES
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:56:02 No.103972173
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:56:16 No.103972179
>>103972154
At least Intel had the balls to release their cards on their own terms.
At least Intel had the balls to release their cards on their own terms.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:56:17 No.103972180
>>103972069
Why not just release now and change price later if 5070 undercuts it badly.
Retailers already seem to have the cards, some ukrainian already did unboxing video too lol.
Why not just release now and change price later if 5070 undercuts it badly.
Retailers already seem to have the cards, some ukrainian already did unboxing video too lol.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:57:50 No.103972191
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:59:52 No.103972209
>>103972171
Just go back.
Just go back.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:00:30 No.103972222
How do I make sure my GPU is fully seated on the PCIE slot when mounting with the case on its side? It's being a bit squishy and I don't trust the pins all being up.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:00:55 No.103972227
>>103972191
scratch that, just read that 1155 doesn't have ahci drivers for xp?
scratch that, just read that 1155 doesn't have ahci drivers for xp?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:04:03 No.103972248
>>103972180
>Why not just release now and change price later if 5070 undercuts it badly.
They do that every time sometimes a day before launch. I has never worked for them.
>Why not just release now and change price later if 5070 undercuts it badly.
They do that every time sometimes a day before launch. I has never worked for them.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:04:49 No.103972257
>>103972180
Rumors say there's tension building up with AMD's retail partners about the proposed price cut.
AMD doesn't want to fully eat up the associated cost, but partners don't want to go along with Radeon's bullshit anymore because they were behind on RDNA3 sales promotion cashback payments.
Retailers stock up on RDNA3 cards expecting to sell them @ MSRP.
If sales are bad (they were), AMD has to give these partners some kind of cash rebate program or give them a discount on future card orders.
Rumors say retailers have not been made whole after these Radeon discount promotions.
>In practice, this is often cushioned with marketing money or cashback payments.
>The manufacturers pay the dealers a kind of bonus for each graphics card sold or offer higher discounts the more units are sold.
>Once these payments are fixed, the dealers take this into account in advance in the form of lower prices.
>This works well as long as the payments flow. But this is exactly where there seem to be real problems.
>On the one hand, AMD seems to have to pay a significant cashback, significantly higher than it actually wants and appears to be economically healthy.
>On the other hand, there are reports in dealer circles that AMD is already several months behind on cashback payments and that this is already leading to liquidity problems in some places.
>Or to put it another way: The dealers don't want any more until AMD clarifies certain things and presumably it won't work without marketing money from day 1 of the sale
>At least not if you want to be attractively positioned compared to the competition in terms of price.https://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/threads/radeon-rx-9070-xt-verzoegern-sich-angeblich-wegen-ungeklaerter-marketinggelder.657694/
Rumors say there's tension building up with AMD's retail partners about the proposed price cut.
AMD doesn't want to fully eat up the associated cost, but partners don't want to go along with Radeon's bullshit anymore because they were behind on RDNA3 sales promotion cashback payments.
Retailers stock up on RDNA3 cards expecting to sell them @ MSRP.
If sales are bad (they were), AMD has to give these partners some kind of cash rebate program or give them a discount on future card orders.
Rumors say retailers have not been made whole after these Radeon discount promotions.
>In practice, this is often cushioned with marketing money or cashback payments.
>The manufacturers pay the dealers a kind of bonus for each graphics card sold or offer higher discounts the more units are sold.
>Once these payments are fixed, the dealers take this into account in advance in the form of lower prices.
>This works well as long as the payments flow. But this is exactly where there seem to be real problems.
>On the one hand, AMD seems to have to pay a significant cashback, significantly higher than it actually wants and appears to be economically healthy.
>On the other hand, there are reports in dealer circles that AMD is already several months behind on cashback payments and that this is already leading to liquidity problems in some places.
>Or to put it another way: The dealers don't want any more until AMD clarifies certain things and presumably it won't work without marketing money from day 1 of the sale
>At least not if you want to be attractively positioned compared to the competition in terms of price.https://extreme.pcgameshardwa
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:05:04 No.103972259
>>103972222
The little latch will flip up.
The little latch will flip up.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:05:12 No.103972262
Is it worth upgrading my 3060ti for 1440p?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:06:01 No.103972269
>>103972050
>AI is the future in 3D gaming
I know that this would eventually be true, as we can't keep increasing rasterization power to match the increase in screen fidelity (e.g. 4k 240hz) while also making games continue to look more visually impressive. There's not a need to do the full calculation for every single pixel on such a screen so often. Still, I viewed it as something that be for VR, or otherwise require eye-tracking. Rasterize where you're looking at the full resolution, but use much lower resolutions everywhere else and AI-generate the pixels between to make it less obvious. Done well enough, a user might never know the difference.
The fact that AMD is tripping over themselves to chase AI pixels in the short-term, though, fucking over customers, is just extremely stupid.
>AI is the future in 3D gaming
I know that this would eventually be true, as we can't keep increasing rasterization power to match the increase in screen fidelity (e.g. 4k 240hz) while also making games continue to look more visually impressive. There's not a need to do the full calculation for every single pixel on such a screen so often. Still, I viewed it as something that be for VR, or otherwise require eye-tracking. Rasterize where you're looking at the full resolution, but use much lower resolutions everywhere else and AI-generate the pixels between to make it less obvious. Done well enough, a user might never know the difference.
The fact that AMD is tripping over themselves to chase AI pixels in the short-term, though, fucking over customers, is just extremely stupid.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:08:32 No.103972289
NOTHING PERSONAL AYYMD
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:08:34 No.103972291
>>103972104
it's called a virtual machine nigger
it's called a virtual machine nigger
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:08:50 No.103972293
I'm using all noctua fans and I'm still at 45db when running games. What did I do wrong?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:09:27 No.103972300
How retarded would it be to get a 5070 Ti on a 650W PSU? I have a 5800X3D.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:09:36 No.103972302
>>103972259
What if I don't have one? I got one of those things that you have to slide across until it clicks.
What if I don't have one? I got one of those things that you have to slide across until it clicks.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:10:46 No.103972314
>>103972269
The Radeon group probably has pressure from AMD's senior executives to feature more AI-enhanced rendering tech because the public loves to hear AI being utilized, and the multi-frame generation tech may have completely caught the Radeon managers off guard.
The Radeon group probably has pressure from AMD's senior executives to feature more AI-enhanced rendering tech because the public loves to hear AI being utilized, and the multi-frame generation tech may have completely caught the Radeon managers off guard.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:10:49 No.103972316
>>103972302
Then slide it across until it clicks?
Then slide it across until it clicks?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:11:41 No.103972327
>>103972289
god this is gonna be such a fucking shit card and yet AMD is working overtime to make it look good
god this is gonna be such a fucking shit card and yet AMD is working overtime to make it look good
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:12:31 No.103972333
This is so fucking pathetic. Fucking retards. I'm so fucking disappointed I'd fucking buy Intel CPU if they were not complete garbage. Fuck AMD the incompetent monkeys.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:12:54 No.103972336
>>103971460
ITS OVER
ITS OVER
sage 01/20/25(Mon)17:13:42 No.103972349
>>103972300
You'll be completely fine if you know how to correctly undervolt it between 950~1000mV.
Set a 280~300W power limit on Afterburner if you're worried.
If you have a GeForce card, practice it now.
RTX 50 series-compatible Afterburner will release after 5090's launch, it's confirmed by the creator.
Increase the GPU core offset first before you set an undervolt curve.
If you go straight to undervolting you will lose performance from stack configuration.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md#undervolting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU
You'll be completely fine if you know how to correctly undervolt it between 950~1000mV.
Set a 280~300W power limit on Afterburner if you're worried.
If you have a GeForce card, practice it now.
RTX 50 series-compatible Afterburner will release after 5090's launch, it's confirmed by the creator.
Increase the GPU core offset first before you set an undervolt curve.
If you go straight to undervolting you will lose performance from stack configuration.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPp
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:13:54 No.103972351
>>103972327
AMD is basically admitting that the 9070 is worse.
AMD is basically admitting that the 9070 is worse.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:14:59 No.103972363
>>103972349
Thanks brother. Unfortunately I'm on the 6700XT right now, but I'll make sure to look this up and maybe even find some 5070 Ti specific guides once it comes out.
Thanks brother. Unfortunately I'm on the 6700XT right now, but I'll make sure to look this up and maybe even find some 5070 Ti specific guides once it comes out.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:17:10 No.103972378
There will be like 50 videos shitting all over AMD withing 24h...
What is the fucking point of even releasing this crap a month after 5070?
What is the fucking point of even releasing this crap a month after 5070?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:17:15 No.103972379
>return 4k240 qdoled
>no where to go
>nothing to upgrade or side grade too
>only death awaits me now
>it's over
what is my next step
>no where to go
>nothing to upgrade or side grade too
>only death awaits me now
>it's over
what is my next step
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:19:31 No.103972399
>>103971753
fine and cool but fix the fucking firmware and put in a pixel refresh override setting that never ever shows that shit again or I will never ever buy another oled
wallahi
fine and cool but fix the fucking firmware and put in a pixel refresh override setting that never ever shows that shit again or I will never ever buy another oled
wallahi
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:19:41 No.103972403
>>103972379
Can you just go to an electronics store and let the TV/monitor salesmen shill you some stuff?
Can you just go to an electronics store and let the TV/monitor salesmen shill you some stuff?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:20:47 No.103972414
Alright my 4080super is making the weird idling noise again, should I rma it and ask for similar priced 5080?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:21:48 No.103972422
>>103972399
Watch the video retard, QD-OLED gaming monitors are selling well enough to prioritize the newest panel technologies for this segment.
These gaming OLED panel & monitor manufacturers are doing fine without your money.
Buy a nice miniLED TV or just fuck off.
Watch the video retard, QD-OLED gaming monitors are selling well enough to prioritize the newest panel technologies for this segment.
These gaming OLED panel & monitor manufacturers are doing fine without your money.
Buy a nice miniLED TV or just fuck off.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:22:12 No.103972426
>Amd's plan for rdna4 is to compete with the lowest tier gpu nvidia announced (5070)
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:22:37 No.103972429
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:23:57 No.103972440
>>103972414
Name the card model and did the return period lapse?
Why did you keep it for so long if it was making weird idling sounds?
How old is your PSU?
>should I rma it and ask for similar priced 5080?
That's not how this works, you will continuously get substandard, refurbished 4080 Supers until they are out of stock before a 5080 comes into play.
And they will offer you a 5070 Ti at best, 5080 is not the like-for-like performance replacement.
Name the card model and did the return period lapse?
Why did you keep it for so long if it was making weird idling sounds?
How old is your PSU?
>should I rma it and ask for similar priced 5080?
That's not how this works, you will continuously get substandard, refurbished 4080 Supers until they are out of stock before a 5080 comes into play.
And they will offer you a 5070 Ti at best, 5080 is not the like-for-like performance replacement.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:24:21 No.103972441
NTA, but I just noticed for some fucking reason that the GPU support bracket on that Cooler Master case might actually be preventing my GPU from seating in the slot properly somefuckinghow, which is strange considering all cards should have the same distance from the slot.
Unless it somehow *is* seated correctly and I'm just going crazy. My 7970, 290X, and 980 Ti all get the same issue. Gonna take this off just to be sure.
Unless it somehow *is* seated correctly and I'm just going crazy. My 7970, 290X, and 980 Ti all get the same issue. Gonna take this off just to be sure.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:25:37 No.103972451
>All this hype around 9070 xt only for it to be released 3 months later
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:27:03 No.103972456
>we are planning to have a wide assortment of cards available globally
Aren't there only two cards releasing? What the hell did he mean by this?
Aren't there only two cards releasing? What the hell did he mean by this?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:28:28 No.103972464
>>103972426
>>103972451
>Anonymous Sat 28 Sep 2024 15:48:07 No.102598116 Report
>>102597869
>Arrow Lake CPU + RDNA4 GPU is going to be next year's saddest, copium PC build.
If you know, you know.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102593123/#102598116
>>103972451
>Anonymous Sat 28 Sep 2024 15:48:07 No.102598116 Report
>>102597869
>Arrow Lake CPU + RDNA4 GPU is going to be next year's saddest, copium PC build.
If you know, you know.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/10
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:29:51 No.103972481
>>103972451
no one is hyping the gpu except r/amd. thier fan always try to make amd seem bigger than they really are
no one is hyping the gpu except r/amd. thier fan always try to make amd seem bigger than they really are
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:30:50 No.103972488
Fuck AMD. I'm tired of this retardation. Is 14600k fine now?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:31:13 No.103972490
AMDelay
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:31:20 No.103972492
I'm not a fan of how nvidia is treating the 5090 like it's some apple product
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:31:57 No.103972499
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:32:19 No.103972501
I'm not gonna bother with the AMD 9070 Because I think the 7900XTX is enough for me.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:33:21 No.103972515
>>103972440
Weird idling only started 3 days ago? I was just contemplating what to do, but it's only idle/30%, when ot reaches proper load/50% fan speed the noise is normal
Weird idling only started 3 days ago? I was just contemplating what to do, but it's only idle/30%, when ot reaches proper load/50% fan speed the noise is normal
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:33:36 No.103972521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tyFlejPs6U
>sliding your pc components around on a carpet
are people really this careless with their stuff?!
>sliding your pc components around on a carpet
are people really this careless with their stuff?!
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:35:19 No.103972532
You know nvidia won when even their game streaming service is sold out
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:37:15 No.103972546
>>103972521
why are euros and Canadians fucking retarded?
why are euros and Canadians fucking retarded?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:37:26 No.103972549
Apart from the 2 OP posted, any other AIOs for OC that aren't trash?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:39:21 No.103972564
the 4090 is going to retain a lot of value until the super/ti varients release next year. if i'm lucky enough to get a 5090 I will sell my 4090 for $1600
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:39:34 No.103972566
>>103972515
If you're eligible for a return/refund from the retailer, do it.
If you go RMA, they're going to send you refurbished cards handled by underpaid contractors.
They might not even give you the same model if stock is an issue.
If you're eligible for a return/refund from the retailer, do it.
If you go RMA, they're going to send you refurbished cards handled by underpaid contractors.
They might not even give you the same model if stock is an issue.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:39:44 No.103972567
>Sale starts on March 31
>Shipment begins on April fools day
>Shipment begins on April fools day
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:40:51 No.103972578
>>103972532
And all the entitled, low-budget gamer thinks NVIDIA cares if people take their $150~300 card purchase elsewhere.
And all the entitled, low-budget gamer thinks NVIDIA cares if people take their $150~300 card purchase elsewhere.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:41:56 No.103972589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg0tbTGX_so
>even the opps are getting 5090s
do they get to keep them after the reviews? that's crazy, i want to be a reviewer
>even the opps are getting 5090s
do they get to keep them after the reviews? that's crazy, i want to be a reviewer
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:42:18 No.103972593
My pc gayrgb is flickering when it's on
Tried every other sata port and it's the same
It seems that moving the psu cable affect it (non modular bequiet psu)
Now this makes me worried if my psu is faulty, or dying, everything else works fine (even sata ssds)
Should I change it you think? I don't care about rgb but worried this can break everything and these are early signs of a dying psu
For reference: case= bequiet 500dx
Psu: bequiet system power 9 600w
Tried every other sata port and it's the same
It seems that moving the psu cable affect it (non modular bequiet psu)
Now this makes me worried if my psu is faulty, or dying, everything else works fine (even sata ssds)
Should I change it you think? I don't care about rgb but worried this can break everything and these are early signs of a dying psu
For reference: case= bequiet 500dx
Psu: bequiet system power 9 600w
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:42:21 No.103972595
>>103972501
Shut the fuck up retard
You wasted your money, don't brag about it
>>103972481
>r/amd
So what the usual suspects wish /pcbg/ was?
>>103972333
If you were expecting more than the usual $20 AMDiscount (hint: not even a discount because of how much you lose), you were AMDelusional. Will you learn your lesson?
Shut the fuck up retard
You wasted your money, don't brag about it
>>103972481
>r/amd
So what the usual suspects wish /pcbg/ was?
>>103972333
If you were expecting more than the usual $20 AMDiscount (hint: not even a discount because of how much you lose), you were AMDelusional. Will you learn your lesson?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:42:44 No.103972600
>>103972499
>>103972515
>MSI Gaming X 4080 Super Slim
That's not a bad model btw. Maybe check the video card's fans & heatsink for any debris or deformed blades.
>>103972515
>MSI Gaming X 4080 Super Slim
That's not a bad model btw. Maybe check the video card's fans & heatsink for any debris or deformed blades.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:43:55 No.103972611
>>103972589
i have absolutely zero faith in this 2 slot design to keep the 5090 cool at 600w
i have absolutely zero faith in this 2 slot design to keep the 5090 cool at 600w
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:45:04 No.103972624
>>103972600
Yeah i'll air dust it see of it foxes anything
Yeah i'll air dust it see of it foxes anything
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:46:13 No.103972635
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:46:18 No.103972639
its happening
aibs soon
aibs soon
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:46:31 No.103972644
>>103972611
that thing is gonna be hitting 90C hot spot temps easy, maybe 100
that thing is gonna be hitting 90C hot spot temps easy, maybe 100
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:47:07 No.103972648
>>103972501
Is the ASRock Phantom Gaming OC variant good? I got it for $900 a little while ago, but I didn't do too much research on the different AIBs. It was just one of the cheapest.
Is the ASRock Phantom Gaming OC variant good? I got it for $900 a little while ago, but I didn't do too much research on the different AIBs. It was just one of the cheapest.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:47:45 No.103972655
ummmm novideosissies?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:48:31 No.103972663
>>103972639
what the fuck are those cases?
what the fuck are those cases?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:48:36 No.103972666
>>103972655
r/amd is down the hall to your right
r/amd is down the hall to your right
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:49:41 No.103972679
>>103972655
I too enjoy forming all of my opinions from contexteless screenshots of youtube shorts
I too enjoy forming all of my opinions from contexteless screenshots of youtube shorts
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:50:44 No.103972686
>>103972663
top looks like their rip off version of a lian li, bottom looks like a rip off of a fractal/antec but both worse
top looks like their rip off version of a lian li, bottom looks like a rip off of a fractal/antec but both worse
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:51:43 No.103972693
>>103972663
o11 and torrent at home
o11 and torrent at home
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:54:33 No.103972716
don't ever say they aren't called amdunboxed
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:55:13 No.103972724
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:57:06 No.103972735
Hey guys, I eat a lot of cheese and fart a lot, what is the best card for me?
I'm thinking 3080 or 3080 ti
I'm thinking 3080 or 3080 ti
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:00:55 No.103972779
I'm convinced this whole thread is just one schizophrenic talking to himself
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:01:38 No.103972793
>>103972779
when did I post this?
when did I post this?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:01:52 No.103972794
>>103972716
you're seething because they're right, this is a winning move and jensen is shitting his pants thinking he will be forced to launch his high end overpriced cards with no competition from both sides
you're seething because they're right, this is a winning move and jensen is shitting his pants thinking he will be forced to launch his high end overpriced cards with no competition from both sides
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:02:13 No.103972801
>>103972735
Vega 64
Vega 64
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:02:18 No.103972803
>>103972794
ok Steve
ok Steve
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:03:37 No.103972816
AMDUnboxed in full damage control mode lmao
They are literally the only techtubers defending this on Twitter btw
They are literally the only techtubers defending this on Twitter btw
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:03:57 No.103972820
>>103972716
Fucking australians man
Fucking australians man
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:04:49 No.103972830
>>103972794
the winning move is to launch rdna4 months before blackwell
the winning move is to launch rdna4 months before blackwell
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:05:31 No.103972837
AMDUnboxed Always Get the Call
AMDUnboxed never miss the call when Azor is on the line.
AMDUnboxed never miss the call when Azor is on the line.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:05:40 No.103972840
>>103972716
New zealanders would never defend amd's lies, always the bloody aussies
New zealanders would never defend amd's lies, always the bloody aussies
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:06:46 No.103972851
AMD more like AyyLMAO
AMDisaster
AMDisaster
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:07:41 No.103972855
>>103972716
amd probably told reviewers the original price they were aiming for kek
amd probably told reviewers the original price they were aiming for kek
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:08:09 No.103972860
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:09:17 No.103972866
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:09:52 No.103972870
>We don't know how much to sell our GPUs for
what a shitshow
Guess what AMD
YOU named it the 9070 and 9070 XT
YOU said that's what it should compete with - the 70 class of Nvidia
YOU know the price of the 5070ti ($749) and 5070 ($549)
So what is the hold up? How do you not know the prices?
what a shitshow
Guess what AMD
YOU named it the 9070 and 9070 XT
YOU said that's what it should compete with - the 70 class of Nvidia
YOU know the price of the 5070ti ($749) and 5070 ($549)
So what is the hold up? How do you not know the prices?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:11:10 No.103972882
>>103972866
>What went wrong?
AMD ditching Vega
That's what went wrong
They had something good going and they bailed on it because they got nervous staring at Nvidias ankles
>What went wrong?
AMD ditching Vega
That's what went wrong
They had something good going and they bailed on it because they got nervous staring at Nvidias ankles
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:11:35 No.103972886
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:11:46 No.103972891
The only australian you should ever listen to is optimum
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:11:57 No.103972893
>>103972860
Very few people give a shit about AW2 anyway, it's a glorified tech demo.
The sales of this game were so bad, that they had to modify the engine to work with GTX cards to try and boost sales.
Very few people give a shit about AW2 anyway, it's a glorified tech demo.
The sales of this game were so bad, that they had to modify the engine to work with GTX cards to try and boost sales.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:12:32 No.103972898
Jan is such a shit month to build, no sales at all
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:13:01 No.103972903
>>103972882
AMD should hire raja again
AMD should hire raja again
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:13:40 No.103972909
>>103972860
holy copium
holy copium
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:15:27 No.103972930
>>103972870
AMD was betting on nvidia raising the price for blackwell
AMD was betting on nvidia raising the price for blackwell
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:17:36 No.103972947
>>103972716
>And very few people would have bought a 9070 XT just because it launched a week or two before the 5070.
I don't get it
If AMD has all these fans on the internet, why would nobody have bought their GPUs if they launched them now?
>And very few people would have bought a 9070 XT just because it launched a week or two before the 5070.
I don't get it
If AMD has all these fans on the internet, why would nobody have bought their GPUs if they launched them now?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:18:36 No.103972955
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:19:03 No.103972963
>>103972029
It's a CM Force 500, good case I think. Very easy to build in, lots of drive bays. Can be placed flat on a desk.
It's a CM Force 500, good case I think. Very easy to build in, lots of drive bays. Can be placed flat on a desk.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:19:30 No.103972966
is this a good oc or should i make it higher
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:20:53 No.103972982
>>103972716
I have never seen a huge youtube reviewer jump on the grenade for a company like this before. Literally 1 hour after bad news dropped they are in full spin mode on twitter for AMD. This is bugchasers level shilling and coping. Insanity.
I have never seen a huge youtube reviewer jump on the grenade for a company like this before. Literally 1 hour after bad news dropped they are in full spin mode on twitter for AMD. This is bugchasers level shilling and coping. Insanity.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:21:49 No.103972993
>>103972966
Memory OC might be unstable, you can push the core clock offset to about +120.
The higher core offset will require stress testing.
The official NVIDIA App has a decent AI GPU Core OC, but it caps memory OC offset @ +200Mhz.
Memory OC might be unstable, you can push the core clock offset to about +120.
The higher core offset will require stress testing.
The official NVIDIA App has a decent AI GPU Core OC, but it caps memory OC offset @ +200Mhz.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:23:56 No.103973007
>screw magnetizes to my g502
how
it can't be that magnetized from my screwdriver
how
it can't be that magnetized from my screwdriver
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:24:33 No.103973017
>>103973007
Yes it can
Yes it can
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:27:23 No.103973039
>>103972716
I think these reviewers live in the delusion that their review is what matters so much, and that the only way to get a good review is to set the price perfectly.
I think these reviewers live in the delusion that their review is what matters so much, and that the only way to get a good review is to set the price perfectly.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:35:07 No.103973109
>>103973039
Have they considered that maybe the card is just trash and no price will save it?
Have they considered that maybe the card is just trash and no price will save it?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:35:15 No.103973111
Does anyone know why Gigabyte stop making the B650 AORUS PRO AX and went to AORUS ELITE AX? I picked up a B650M AORUS PRO AX v1.0 off the 2nd hand market and swapped the shitty mediatek wifi card for an intel one.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:36:18 No.103973124
I've never messed with fan settings before. If I have two fans plugged into one slot on the motherboard does BIOS consider both of those to be Fan1?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:36:30 No.103973130
>people trashing AMD (rightfully), but also just burying their head in the sand with the 50xx
You won't be able to get one of these fucking things, regardless of which you buy, for at least six months. This isn't even a printer paper launch, it's fucking washi paper launch.
You won't be able to get one of these fucking things, regardless of which you buy, for at least six months. This isn't even a printer paper launch, it's fucking washi paper launch.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:38:34 No.103973155
>>103972993
ok changed the core clock to 120 and mem clock to 1550 and it seems to be working fine while testing doom 2016 at 4k 170hz
ok changed the core clock to 120 and mem clock to 1550 and it seems to be working fine while testing doom 2016 at 4k 170hz
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:39:18 No.103973158
>>103971412
is the 9070xt like their 5090 or what? idk what the new naming scheme is about
is the 9070xt like their 5090 or what? idk what the new naming scheme is about
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:41:14 No.103973175
>njudea shill freaking out that the focus will be squarely on the 5090 with no way to deflect damage onto the 9070
>better attack reviewers who see delaying a wise move
lol lmao even
>better attack reviewers who see delaying a wise move
lol lmao even
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:41:45 No.103973183
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:43:02 No.103973204
>>103973158
It's their cope card because they have to release something
well that's the theory since they aren't actually releasing anything
AMDrones how much the does the 9070 cost again? And where can you buy it? LOL fucking monkeys
It's their cope card because they have to release something
well that's the theory since they aren't actually releasing anything
AMDrones how much the does the 9070 cost again? And where can you buy it? LOL fucking monkeys
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:44:03 No.103973212
>>103973183
delusional fuckwit in damage control i see. not everyone that thinks you're a faggot has a youtube account you fucking dumb nigger
delusional fuckwit in damage control i see. not everyone that thinks you're a faggot has a youtube account you fucking dumb nigger
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:48:33 No.103973250
>>103973007
I think the g502 has a removable underplate, if you take that off then you can put weights into the mouse. I think it's secured by magnets.
I think the g502 has a removable underplate, if you take that off then you can put weights into the mouse. I think it's secured by magnets.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:51:09 No.103973273
>>103973007
Jesus anon, time for a new mouse.
Jesus anon, time for a new mouse.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:51:32 No.103973278
>>103972589
if they get to keep their cards I'm going to be salty
maybe I should get in on the techtube grift
if they get to keep their cards I'm going to be salty
maybe I should get in on the techtube grift
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:53:21 No.103973296
![Lossless Scaling： Frame Generation For Every Game - But How Good Is it？ [69k7ZXLK1to]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1737417201765052s.jpg)
>>103972300
Easily doable, probably at stock. However like anon suggested, an undervolt is generally in order for any graphics card
>>103972262
Only you can answer this question. Generally you want a 2x upgrade in graphics perf for an upgrade to be worthwhile, so 5070 Ti at minimum but preferably a 5080. And of course you have to have a good enough CPU to make use of of a strong GPU
>>103971945
If the 7900 XTX doesn't get FSR4, that'll be an expensive lesson for those poorfags. Who am I kidding, they won't learn. That would require observational skills
Easily doable, probably at stock. However like anon suggested, an undervolt is generally in order for any graphics card
>>103972262
Only you can answer this question. Generally you want a 2x upgrade in graphics perf for an upgrade to be worthwhile, so 5070 Ti at minimum but preferably a 5080. And of course you have to have a good enough CPU to make use of of a strong GPU
>>103971945
If the 7900 XTX doesn't get FSR4, that'll be an expensive lesson for those poorfags. Who am I kidding, they won't learn. That would require observational skills
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:53:29 No.103973299
>>103973204
i meant what the equivalent would be to 5000 series but since you wanna be all red vs green you sent a nigger response
i meant what the equivalent would be to 5000 series but since you wanna be all red vs green you sent a nigger response
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:54:40 No.103973312
What's the best optical drive I can buy nowadays that has proven reliability? The idea of lasers breaking or discs getting scratched up annoys me.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:55:08 No.103973320
>>103973296
do people really buy either type of cards and use this shit in games? whats wrong with people
do people really buy either type of cards and use this shit in games? whats wrong with people
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:56:42 No.103973330
>>103973212
seething AMDrone
Your card is vaporware and it'll never be released
AMD Radeon is a pile of shit and nobody ever buys it so AMD have skipped wasting everyone's time and just aren't selling it
now go wipe up the currystink off your mom's pussy you seething jeet fuck
seething AMDrone
Your card is vaporware and it'll never be released
AMD Radeon is a pile of shit and nobody ever buys it so AMD have skipped wasting everyone's time and just aren't selling it
now go wipe up the currystink off your mom's pussy you seething jeet fuck
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:59:13 No.103973350
>>103973299
To have an equivalent to the 50 series it has to exist first
Here's an AMD chart on it but AMDjeets claimed it's inaccurate because they were seething that AMD themselves said the XTX is shitter and worse than the 4080 Super. But I guess they are right since the 9070 doesn't exist lmao.
To have an equivalent to the 50 series it has to exist first
Here's an AMD chart on it but AMDjeets claimed it's inaccurate because they were seething that AMD themselves said the XTX is shitter and worse than the 4080 Super. But I guess they are right since the 9070 doesn't exist lmao.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:59:28 No.103973353
>>103973296
it's crazy how hard lsfg got shilled even though it's the worst framegen by far in every metric
people don't even care about the latency on this shit yet I see retards complaining about MFG despite the fact that even with MFG at x4 there's still less added latency than this shit
it's crazy how hard lsfg got shilled even though it's the worst framegen by far in every metric
people don't even care about the latency on this shit yet I see retards complaining about MFG despite the fact that even with MFG at x4 there's still less added latency than this shit
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:01:16 No.103973365
>>103971349
>AMD
>Delayed to March even if the product is already available
FUCK YOU
IM GOING TO BUY 5070ti
>AMD
>Delayed to March even if the product is already available
FUCK YOU
IM GOING TO BUY 5070ti
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:01:56 No.103973371
>>103972716
>amdunboxed
It's really insane
>>103973158
It's their high end this gen, probably about like a 7900 XTX in rasterization with better RT and FSR4. Similar to Polaris or RDNA1
>>103973320
FSR Frame Gen would be a good way to overcome Radeon's usual CPU limits
But you most be delusional if you think people aren't going to be using DLSS MFG to max out their 240 Hz monitors
>>103973353
It's like CAS, FSR1, RIS, etc. There's only one type of person who shills those technologies
>amdunboxed
It's really insane
>>103973158
It's their high end this gen, probably about like a 7900 XTX in rasterization with better RT and FSR4. Similar to Polaris or RDNA1
>>103973320
FSR Frame Gen would be a good way to overcome Radeon's usual CPU limits
But you most be delusional if you think people aren't going to be using DLSS MFG to max out their 240 Hz monitors
>>103973353
It's like CAS, FSR1, RIS, etc. There's only one type of person who shills those technologies
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:02:08 No.103973372
>>103973273
More like time to scrape off the completely useless rubber and clean it. I thought I needed a new mouse too but did that instead, now I don't. Cleaning the wheel was a bit of a pain though.
More like time to scrape off the completely useless rubber and clean it. I thought I needed a new mouse too but did that instead, now I don't. Cleaning the wheel was a bit of a pain though.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:03:13 No.103973382
>>103972655
>buy rtx 5090
>play Absolute Cinema 2
> max out every setting
>rtx off
>every other retarded ass gimmick off
>enjoy like probably 200 fps on this fucking game bc it runs like trash anyways, point is fuck rtx fuck dlss fuck all these stupid ass bullshit solutions like every xx90 the 5090 will rape in raster
>buy rtx 5090
>play Absolute Cinema 2
> max out every setting
>rtx off
>every other retarded ass gimmick off
>enjoy like probably 200 fps on this fucking game bc it runs like trash anyways, point is fuck rtx fuck dlss fuck all these stupid ass bullshit solutions like every xx90 the 5090 will rape in raster
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:03:14 No.103973383
>>103973365
Nooo you have to wait for the 9070XT and buy that for PRICE UNDETERMINED in March!
Nooo you have to wait for the 9070XT and buy that for PRICE UNDETERMINED in March!
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:04:15 No.103973395
Rasterization is dead
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:04:45 No.103973398
>>103973372
I guess I'm just lazy. I just buy another of the same type of mouse if it ever gets too gross.
I guess I'm just lazy. I just buy another of the same type of mouse if it ever gets too gross.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:07:13 No.103973412
>>103973398
You can't buy the original G502 anymore. G502X is a bit different, and every revision inbetween (supposedly) comes with garbage switches that double-click.
I was, admittedly, considering getting the X, but I heard the wheel is ass, and it STILL has the stupid rubber so it'll also look like that eventually.
You can't buy the original G502 anymore. G502X is a bit different, and every revision inbetween (supposedly) comes with garbage switches that double-click.
I was, admittedly, considering getting the X, but I heard the wheel is ass, and it STILL has the stupid rubber so it'll also look like that eventually.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:12:52 No.103973448
What are the generations/technologies where they're too new for a retro PC build? For example, I could buy a 9800 Pro which I know would be compatible with most older stuff based on my own experience with the 9xxx generation, but if I bought a PCI-E card from a few generations later it would be cheaper and faster, yet there might be other issues?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:19:28 No.103973490
You don't win friends shipping stores pallets of products then refusing to let them sell them for months on end. After agreeing that they'd go on sale months before. And telling them they have to sell them for much lower than you originally said they would. And now the retailers want rebates. I really wonder what the original prices were. The 9070 XT does not look like a cheap card.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:27:02 No.103973530
>>103973448
Haven't dug that deep into it, but afaik, it's mostly down to driver compatibility and the system used.
I know for the Nvidia side and for Windows 9x, officially there is support for up to 6000 series.
Most of the quirks stem from the system used. certain chipsets work fine even with PCIe, others not with a common issue being weird ACPI troubles. There is no set rule from what I have read.
Windows XP of course will have less trouble, being PCIe was introduced when XP was relevant.
Haven't dug that deep into it, but afaik, it's mostly down to driver compatibility and the system used.
I know for the Nvidia side and for Windows 9x, officially there is support for up to 6000 series.
Most of the quirks stem from the system used. certain chipsets work fine even with PCIe, others not with a common issue being weird ACPI troubles. There is no set rule from what I have read.
Windows XP of course will have less trouble, being PCIe was introduced when XP was relevant.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:33:14 No.103973558
>>103973530
Thanks for that info, I'll do an internet archive dive and see how long each supported Windows 2000
Thanks for that info, I'll do an internet archive dive and see how long each supported Windows 2000
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:33:23 No.103973560
![Star Wars Jedi Survivor PS5 Pro Fixed？ The Latest PSSR Upscaler Tested [LjweTjMxylo]-2-2](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1737419603750904s.jpg)
>>103973395
Good riddance
FFVII Rebirth, supposedly one of the best looking rasterized games to ever be made
>>103973490
>much lower than you originally said
The craziest thing is that RTX 50 is mediocre
Anyone who thought the 5070 would be weaker than the 4070 Super and have a higher price tag was an absolute moron. If the 5070 being $50 off on 4070 Super performance fucked over AMD's plans, you have to wonder just how AMDelusional AMD was on pricing
IMO the issue is that FSR4 wasn't ready (at CES it was an unnamed 'research project' on one monitor. Even if AMDrones are delusional enough to claim upsampling doesn't matter (while their brand didn't have it at least), RTG itself knows this isn't the case, and if the AMD shills like AMDumboxed couldn't show FSR4 in a positive light (after all, they are entirely revamping their testing >>103043403 now that Radeon is purported to have good upsampling), they are realistic enough to tell AMD that it needs to wait until FSR4 is ready
Good riddance
FFVII Rebirth, supposedly one of the best looking rasterized games to ever be made
>>103973490
>much lower than you originally said
The craziest thing is that RTX 50 is mediocre
Anyone who thought the 5070 would be weaker than the 4070 Super and have a higher price tag was an absolute moron. If the 5070 being $50 off on 4070 Super performance fucked over AMD's plans, you have to wonder just how AMDelusional AMD was on pricing
IMO the issue is that FSR4 wasn't ready (at CES it was an unnamed 'research project' on one monitor. Even if AMDrones are delusional enough to claim upsampling doesn't matter (while their brand didn't have it at least), RTG itself knows this isn't the case, and if the AMD shills like AMDumboxed couldn't show FSR4 in a positive light (after all, they are entirely revamping their testing >>103043403 now that Radeon is purported to have good upsampling), they are realistic enough to tell AMD that it needs to wait until FSR4 is ready
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:37:30 No.103973582
Why are amd so fucking shit? Rdna 4 is now delayed till march even though we know for a fact retailers have them. What a complete joke. I gave them their opportunity, I'm just going to get an rtx next month I'm not waiting any longer to see if amd are any good.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:38:16 No.103973589
>>103973395
>>103973560
There still isn't a solution to reconstruction smear, no amount of cope will change this ;^)
>>103973560
There still isn't a solution to reconstruction smear, no amount of cope will change this ;^)
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:38:37 No.103973592
>>103973582
Reading the thread now I didn't realise everyone already knew about this. Seems the news has spread fast. What a joke.
Reading the thread now I didn't realise everyone already knew about this. Seems the news has spread fast. What a joke.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:38:46 No.103973593
>HWUSteve handling the 5090
>Has what looks like shit smeared all over his face
I guess that's what happens when you handle a turd of a GPU
>Has what looks like shit smeared all over his face
I guess that's what happens when you handle a turd of a GPU
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:48:30 No.103973661
>>103973593
That's just what brown people look like.
That's just what brown people look like.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:48:34 No.103973663
>>103973490
If stores already have stock then there's no way they delayed them for something as simple as a price drop. Warehouse space is very valuable to stores and they don't like having products stored long term there so I can only guess something went wrong with the GPUs, either software or hardware wise. Wouldn't surprise me if they had to be shipped back and replaced and that's why it's delayed till March, you normally don't do this unless you absolutely have to.
If stores already have stock then there's no way they delayed them for something as simple as a price drop. Warehouse space is very valuable to stores and they don't like having products stored long term there so I can only guess something went wrong with the GPUs, either software or hardware wise. Wouldn't surprise me if they had to be shipped back and replaced and that's why it's delayed till March, you normally don't do this unless you absolutely have to.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:49:04 No.103973667
>put together simple ~$850 1080p desktop build list
>"BRO, you HAVE to go for 1440p! 1080p is old news"
>build is now $1,150
>"Yo, is that AM4? Pfft, you have to jump up to AM5 bro, ditch that 5600. AM4 dead platform 7600X blah blah 10950X3D upgrade path blah blah"
>build is now $1,300
>"uhm, is that an IPS? LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OLED IT IS SOO FUCKING AWESOOOOME YOU HAVE TO OH MY GOD ITS A PARADIGM SHIFT!"
>build is now $2,000
>"nigga, you want to fuck with AI right? you're going to need way more VRAM than that 4070. you need to get a 4090"
>build is now $3,200
>"lmao, is that a 4090 in your build list? the 5090 is literally JUST about to come out, retard. fucking lmao..."
>build is now $3,700
>"wtf do you have a 1440p display for when you're buying a 5090???"
>build is now $4,300
>"BRO, you HAVE to go for 1440p! 1080p is old news"
>build is now $1,150
>"Yo, is that AM4? Pfft, you have to jump up to AM5 bro, ditch that 5600. AM4 dead platform 7600X blah blah 10950X3D upgrade path blah blah"
>build is now $1,300
>"uhm, is that an IPS? LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OLED IT IS SOO FUCKING AWESOOOOME YOU HAVE TO OH MY GOD ITS A PARADIGM SHIFT!"
>build is now $2,000
>"nigga, you want to fuck with AI right? you're going to need way more VRAM than that 4070. you need to get a 4090"
>build is now $3,200
>"lmao, is that a 4090 in your build list? the 5090 is literally JUST about to come out, retard. fucking lmao..."
>build is now $3,700
>"wtf do you have a 1440p display for when you're buying a 5090???"
>build is now $4,300
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:51:30 No.103973687
>>103973667
this thread is full of marketers that want to upsell you on useless shit
don't listen to them
this thread is full of marketers that want to upsell you on useless shit
don't listen to them
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:52:46 No.103973700
>>103973667
My 1440 OLED only cost $500
My 1440 OLED only cost $500
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:53:10 No.103973705
>>103973667
Just download more frames bro, dont listen to shills
Just download more frames bro, dont listen to shills
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:53:46 No.103973709
>>103973667
this is what happens when you listen to the jews on 4chan. dont fall for their yiddish witchcraft. just stick to your original build and do the same with the next build when you need it in 5 years time and you'll still come out in front.
this is what happens when you listen to the jews on 4chan. dont fall for their yiddish witchcraft. just stick to your original build and do the same with the next build when you need it in 5 years time and you'll still come out in front.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:54:36 No.103973717
>>103973667
>>"Yo, is that AM4? Pfft, you have to jump up to AM5 bro, ditch that 5600. AM4 dead platform 7600X blah blah 10950X3D upgrade path blah blah"
Just get a cheap 5700x3d from AliExpress for your 1080p build bro, no need to listen to any of the shills in this shit hole.
>>"Yo, is that AM4? Pfft, you have to jump up to AM5 bro, ditch that 5600. AM4 dead platform 7600X blah blah 10950X3D upgrade path blah blah"
Just get a cheap 5700x3d from AliExpress for your 1080p build bro, no need to listen to any of the shills in this shit hole.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:58:33 No.103973751
Ok so just bought the fans now. Doing it piece by piece. Case and paste are the only other parts I bought so far.
This CPU is fine right? I think I can buy it from aliexpress right now for about 130 dollars after tax and discounts.
This CPU is fine right? I think I can buy it from aliexpress right now for about 130 dollars after tax and discounts.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:58:45 No.103973754
So neither AMD or Nvidea will release a budget GPU anytime soon for around 300 bucks? Do they usually drop prices of their older models after their new release or does that happen later? Budget GPU is at such a bad spot, spending 300 on a card thats already outdated feels like such a waste.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)19:59:04 No.103973758
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:00:15 No.103973766
>>103973754
Intel has budget GPUs for 300
Intel has budget GPUs for 300
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:00:24 No.103973767
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:01:52 No.103973779
>>103973766
Literally out of stock everywhere and now being upsold for 330 euros minimum. Its not even that good. People just rated it high because they kept repeating its a 230 dollar card.
Literally out of stock everywhere and now being upsold for 330 euros minimum. Its not even that good. People just rated it high because they kept repeating its a 230 dollar card.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:02:57 No.103973788
>>103972293
probably the non-noctua gpu fans being loud as fuck
probably the non-noctua gpu fans being loud as fuck
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:03:07 No.103973789
>>103973767
>I have the GTX 1080Ti
>oh wow... Only the 1000 series? God damn tell the homeless lady outside hehe
>I have the GTX 1080Ti
>oh wow... Only the 1000 series? God damn tell the homeless lady outside hehe
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:04:08 No.103973797
>>103973779
they're just having shit ass supply then. It sucks. Everything is 20-30% markup because this retards can't pump out enough supply.
they're just having shit ass supply then. It sucks. Everything is 20-30% markup because this retards can't pump out enough supply.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:05:25 No.103973807
>>103973779
How can AMD not sell in this market? That intel shit is selling out clearly nobody gives a shit about the the CPU issues.
How can AMD not sell in this market? That intel shit is selling out clearly nobody gives a shit about the the CPU issues.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:07:20 No.103973827
>>103973779
and it's still the best card in that price range despite reviewers saying it's not worth more
and it's still the best card in that price range despite reviewers saying it's not worth more
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:08:45 No.103973845
Never thought I'd find myself begging intel to save us from amd. B780 where? Rx 9000 is a fucking disaster if the rumors of poor drivers are true. I just want to upgrade from my 1070 to a current gen x70 tier card goddammit I've waited so long.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:08:47 No.103973846
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:09:42 No.103973859
>>103973846
didn't you know chud? we're in a new era. GPUs cost 300 minimum now, post COVID inflation tax hehe.
didn't you know chud? we're in a new era. GPUs cost 300 minimum now, post COVID inflation tax hehe.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:10:27 No.103973865
>>103973846
AMD idea of mid range was $600-700
AMD idea of mid range was $600-700
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:10:45 No.103973866
what is the best current 27 inch 1440p OLED monitor?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:11:18 No.103973871
>>103973865
Then they are crazy. The whole world assumed they were making a $500 card
Then they are crazy. The whole world assumed they were making a $500 card
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:14:07 No.103973900
I'll won't buy cheap GPU. I just won't.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:14:54 No.103973908
>>103973866
The one you can find the cheapest which is currently this one @ $470:
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Speakers-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH/
The one you can find the cheapest which is currently this one @ $470:
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:17:04 No.103973934
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:17:27 No.103973939
>>103973865
>make $600 card
>rtx 5070 is $550
>amd can't compete oh price so have to under cut it
>sell at $500 and make losses on cards that will sell like shit anyway
>make $600 card
>rtx 5070 is $550
>amd can't compete oh price so have to under cut it
>sell at $500 and make losses on cards that will sell like shit anyway
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:21:58 No.103973974
>>103973934
what's wrong with big booty latinas?
what's wrong with big booty latinas?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:26:48 No.103974006
>>103973939
it's the easiest marketing win ever
Like when Sony destroyed Xbox in the ps4 launch.
Literally all AMD had to do was be like "we like games, fuck AI" and consumers would have gobbled it up.
They could have showed the 9070XT destroying the 5070s and sold them for $499 flat and they would have made a KILLING, they wouldn't be able to keep stock on shelves.
it's the easiest marketing win ever
Like when Sony destroyed Xbox in the ps4 launch.
Literally all AMD had to do was be like "we like games, fuck AI" and consumers would have gobbled it up.
They could have showed the 9070XT destroying the 5070s and sold them for $499 flat and they would have made a KILLING, they wouldn't be able to keep stock on shelves.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:26:56 No.103974007
>>103973939
To add:
>AMD rebrands to a similar naming scheme as NV
>equivalent cards will be more expensive than their similarly named NV counterparts because of poor predictions
>throw in all the DLSS 4 MFG marketing to make NV look cheaper and faster in the same product bracket
It's over. I wonder if that AMD research project at CES was really RDNA 4 in its incomplete form and they're still developing it a couple months before launch. They won't even have a true DLSS competitor at launch by the looks of it, or it'll be broken. Just burn the whole thing down.
To add:
>AMD rebrands to a similar naming scheme as NV
>equivalent cards will be more expensive than their similarly named NV counterparts because of poor predictions
>throw in all the DLSS 4 MFG marketing to make NV look cheaper and faster in the same product bracket
It's over. I wonder if that AMD research project at CES was really RDNA 4 in its incomplete form and they're still developing it a couple months before launch. They won't even have a true DLSS competitor at launch by the looks of it, or it'll be broken. Just burn the whole thing down.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:27:29 No.103974015
>>103973974
she is a man she just has not realized it yet this year she will get top surgery and transition to male
she is a man she just has not realized it yet this year she will get top surgery and transition to male
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:32:40 No.103974050
>>103973754
I would expect March or April for the 5060 and 5060 Ti
>>103973866
Not worth buying OLED at 1440p except in specific cases IMO. We're in the era of: if you can run 1080p, you can run 4K, and not only that, you should be
>>103973908
>muh cheapest
No
>>103974006
>we like games, fuck AI
It's a good strategy, that way your customers have to upgrade every generation. RTG really is great at milking its (retarded) loyal fangirls
I would expect March or April for the 5060 and 5060 Ti
>>103973866
Not worth buying OLED at 1440p except in specific cases IMO. We're in the era of: if you can run 1080p, you can run 4K, and not only that, you should be
>>103973908
>muh cheapest
No
>>103974006
>we like games, fuck AI
It's a good strategy, that way your customers have to upgrade every generation. RTG really is great at milking its (retarded) loyal fangirls
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:35:57 No.103974079
>>103974007
>It's over. I wonder if that AMD research project at CES was really RDNA 4 in its incomplete form and they're still developing it a couple months before launch.
I mean if that were true, it would speak very ill of AMD's software team since cards have been in etailer hands since at least December and you would stall the hardware release to March for their lack of progress. Then again Zen 5%'s Windows launch performance was the worst launch in years before Arrow Lake took that crown a few months later.
>It's over. I wonder if that AMD research project at CES was really RDNA 4 in its incomplete form and they're still developing it a couple months before launch.
I mean if that were true, it would speak very ill of AMD's software team since cards have been in etailer hands since at least December and you would stall the hardware release to March for their lack of progress. Then again Zen 5%'s Windows launch performance was the worst launch in years before Arrow Lake took that crown a few months later.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:37:34 No.103974098
>>103974050
all the 4k oled monitors are insanely expensive and i dont think my 7900xt could run them very well
all the 4k oled monitors are insanely expensive and i dont think my 7900xt could run them very well
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:39:11 No.103974115
Will 5080 be better than 4090? I might just buy a used 4090 if not.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:40:23 No.103974128
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:41:58 No.103974145
What should I put in my next xeon box
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:42:46 No.103974153
How come 5090fe is much slimmer than 4090fe, but all aibs make 5090 fat as fuck?
Is this marketing to make you think you're buying more to justify price?
Is this marketing to make you think you're buying more to justify price?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:43:08 No.103974157
>>103974128
so the 5090 will genereate AI porn almost 3x faster than a 4090, and hold 8GB more in VRAM?
so the 5090 will genereate AI porn almost 3x faster than a 4090, and hold 8GB more in VRAM?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:43:26 No.103974161
What are the oldest motherboards with NVME support?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:45:10 No.103974178
>>103974161
You can put nvme in pcie slot
You can put nvme in pcie slot
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:45:33 No.103974182
>>103973667
I feel you bro
I feel you bro
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:46:10 No.103974191
All the nvidia posts read like the same guy desu
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:46:45 No.103974197
>>103974178
what are some good pcie adapter cards for nvme
what are some good pcie adapter cards for nvme
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:47:59 No.103974209
>>103973900
I won't buy an expensive one. I just wont.
I won't buy an expensive one. I just wont.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:49:39 No.103974231
>>103974178
You'd still have to make sure it has a bios that supports nvme
You'd still have to make sure it has a bios that supports nvme
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:51:47 No.103974251
I bought a 7900xtx for $800 last month thinking I would return it and have an upgrade at the end of this month. I don't know what to do anymore. I have it with a 5700x3d and I don't see sidegrade/slight downgrade value anywhere or any GPU not worth 2000 dollars that can do 4k at a reasonable framerate without excess trickery (currently at 1440p but OLED would be nice). Am I wrong?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:52:31 No.103974260
I got an RX 7600 delivered today and it runs everything at beyond 60fps. why do I need to upgrade again?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:55:14 No.103974284
>>103974260
>why do I need to upgrade again?
You *don't*, a lot of tech nerds (not the average consumer) upgrades because they can afford it and they want to
>why do I need to upgrade again?
You *don't*, a lot of tech nerds (not the average consumer) upgrades because they can afford it and they want to
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:59:41 No.103974321
>>103974098
Unfortunate
>>103974157
>5090 will genereate AI porn almost 3x faster than a 4090
Probably not, I doubt the 4070 is almost twice as fast as the 3090 in Stable Diffusion. I don't really follow SD benches closely enough to know anything more than Radeon is not an option
Unfortunate
>>103974157
>5090 will genereate AI porn almost 3x faster than a 4090
Probably not, I doubt the 4070 is almost twice as fast as the 3090 in Stable Diffusion. I don't really follow SD benches closely enough to know anything more than Radeon is not an option
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:00:49 No.103974331
>>103974321
damn Intel raped the 4060 lol
damn Intel raped the 4060 lol
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:03:22 No.103974352
>>103974321
and before i even co-nsider the 5000 series i am waiting for reviews
and before i even co-nsider the 5000 series i am waiting for reviews
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:08:39 No.103974398
>>103974260
Be careful with the VRAM
Tickle it and the card will collapse, especially if you're on PCIe 3.0
>>103974331
Intel understands what current "GPUs" need to be able to do
Unfortunately drivers and software support aren't really there yet from what I understand
>>103974352
I'm sure Tom's will drop the Procyon benches with last gen comparisons. It'll be interesting to see the results. Kind of crazy they don't have a 3060 in there for comparison
Be careful with the VRAM
Tickle it and the card will collapse, especially if you're on PCIe 3.0
>>103974331
Intel understands what current "GPUs" need to be able to do
Unfortunately drivers and software support aren't really there yet from what I understand
>>103974352
I'm sure Tom's will drop the Procyon benches with last gen comparisons. It'll be interesting to see the results. Kind of crazy they don't have a 3060 in there for comparison
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:13:33 No.103974449
>>103973667
Don't forget buying a 1.6kW Titanium power supply to substitute your old 750W Gold rated power supply.
Don't forget buying a 1.6kW Titanium power supply to substitute your old 750W Gold rated power supply.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:14:39 No.103974452
>>103973751
8bucks for thermal paste when your cooler is only 36 bucks. Just use the stock paste included
https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/0RN-002K-000H6
here is some cheaper ram
8bucks for thermal paste when your cooler is only 36 bucks. Just use the stock paste included
https://www.newegg.com/silicon-powe
here is some cheaper ram
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:20:36 No.103974490
>>103973667
>now, what about audio? you're seriously going to spend $4,300 on your tower but nothing on an audio interface and decent headphones? what about a webcam and decent mouse and keyboard?
build is now $5,300
>wow, you're sitting in a fucking wood chair with your several thousand dollar setup. grim. check out the steelcase herman miller aeron leap!
build is now $6,500
>now, what about audio? you're seriously going to spend $4,300 on your tower but nothing on an audio interface and decent headphones? what about a webcam and decent mouse and keyboard?
build is now $5,300
>wow, you're sitting in a fucking wood chair with your several thousand dollar setup. grim. check out the steelcase herman miller aeron leap!
build is now $6,500
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:22:02 No.103974503
Whats the best 1440p card for rasterization
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:22:27 No.103974508
>>103974503
4080 Super
4080 Super
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:24:26 No.103974520
>>103974503
7800 XT
7800 XT
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:25:15 No.103974529
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:25:56 No.103974536
>>103964487
I have a VA panel, and you DISGUST ME
I have a VA panel, and you DISGUST ME
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:26:56 No.103974542
>>103974503
He's not wrong, 4090, 5090, they jest wark. That said, I will never buy nvidia again.
He's not wrong, 4090, 5090, they jest wark. That said, I will never buy nvidia again.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:28:44 No.103974558
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:30:16 No.103974570
>>103974251
>return it now
>use refund to buy a rope
>use rope to get the fuck off my planet you sad freak
>return it now
>use refund to buy a rope
>use rope to get the fuck off my planet you sad freak
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:31:25 No.103974578
>>103974503
>best
That would be the 4090 or soon (a week and a half) the 5090. But you'd have to be retarded to buy a new card just for rasterization
>best
That would be the 4090 or soon (a week and a half) the 5090. But you'd have to be retarded to buy a new card just for rasterization
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:31:26 No.103974579
>>103974558
You want THE BEST (performance in games, without overclocking, and without waiting to see what AMD launches) at 1440p?
That's 4090 and 5090.
My 6950xt is actually faster, if you overclock it - at raster.
imo, if you get a 4090 or 5090, buy insurance, nvidia kinda sucks a poo squirting anus.
You want THE BEST (performance in games, without overclocking, and without waiting to see what AMD launches) at 1440p?
That's 4090 and 5090.
My 6950xt is actually faster, if you overclock it - at raster.
imo, if you get a 4090 or 5090, buy insurance, nvidia kinda sucks a poo squirting anus.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:32:05 No.103974588
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:32:27 No.103974591
>>103974579
***faster than the 4090
I think the 5090 should be faster. I haven't checked to see the oc records yet.
***faster than the 4090
I think the 5090 should be faster. I haven't checked to see the oc records yet.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:33:21 No.103974597
>>103974579
So then 6950xt is what I want if I don't want some dogshit like dlss or fsr?
By the way, I don't care about gaytracing.
I want games with high fps that are REAL.
So then 6950xt is what I want if I don't want some dogshit like dlss or fsr?
By the way, I don't care about gaytracing.
I want games with high fps that are REAL.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:33:27 No.103974599
>>103974578
If he's a millionaire, it doesn't matter. Millionaire buy: 4090 or 5090.
If he's a millionaire, it doesn't matter. Millionaire buy: 4090 or 5090.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:35:06 No.103974610
>>103974503
4090 is the best 1440p card.
4090 is the best 1440p card.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:36:05 No.103974618
>>103974610
What about the best 4k 240 fps card if I decided to upgrade monitors
What about the best 4k 240 fps card if I decided to upgrade monitors
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:36:30 No.103974622
>>103974579
>>103974591
>without waiting to see what AMD launches
You must be literally retarded to think that AMD can beat even the 4090. Why even include that line?
>>103974597
Oh, it's just a retarded samefag with reddit spacing
>My 6950xt is actually faster than the 4090 at raster
Oh right, you're an AMDelusional
>>103974591
>without waiting to see what AMD launches
You must be literally retarded to think that AMD can beat even the 4090. Why even include that line?
>>103974597
Oh, it's just a retarded samefag with reddit spacing
>My 6950xt is actually faster than the 4090 at raster
Oh right, you're an AMDelusional
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:36:53 No.103974626
>>103974570
I don't think I'll be doing that
I don't think I'll be doing that
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:37:41 No.103974630
>>103974622
The fuck is your problem and obsession with reddit?
All I asked if for you to clarify and you get upset and start talking about reddit. Is the reddit in the room with us?
The fuck is your problem and obsession with reddit?
All I asked if for you to clarify and you get upset and start talking about reddit. Is the reddit in the room with us?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:38:43 No.103974641
>2025 - Panther Lake - Intel 18A (Cougar Cove P-Cores +5-13% IPC) + (Darkmont E-Cores)
>2026 - Nova Lake - Intel 18A-P (Coyote Cove P-Cores +9-18% IPC) + (Arctic Wolf E-Cores)
>2027 - ???? Lake - Intel 14A-P (Griffin Cove P-Cores +10-20% IPC) + (????? E-Cores)
So it looks like Intel is strapping in to be the budget kings for the next few years. Possibly foregoing TSMC silicon entirely for their cheaper, second-rate fabs just so they can put price pressure on AMD (9800x3d pricing is ridiculous) while delivering just enough improvements to stay in the conversation. Kind of like AMD in the Phenom era. But just like with Radeon most of you guys aren't going to buy their shit, you'll just be happy that Intel made AMD charge $70 less for their next 12-core single ccd x3d gameslop cpu.
Will Intel manage to gain any positive mindshare as they remain the value underdog for poorfags over the next few years? Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores? We will see.. odds are ill stay on my 14900k until 2029 or 2030 when Intel might finally be able to compete again with a worthy competing tech to 3d cache and a complete corporate restructuring having finally bore some kind of fruit.
>2026 - Nova Lake - Intel 18A-P (Coyote Cove P-Cores +9-18% IPC) + (Arctic Wolf E-Cores)
>2027 - ???? Lake - Intel 14A-P (Griffin Cove P-Cores +10-20% IPC) + (????? E-Cores)
So it looks like Intel is strapping in to be the budget kings for the next few years. Possibly foregoing TSMC silicon entirely for their cheaper, second-rate fabs just so they can put price pressure on AMD (9800x3d pricing is ridiculous) while delivering just enough improvements to stay in the conversation. Kind of like AMD in the Phenom era. But just like with Radeon most of you guys aren't going to buy their shit, you'll just be happy that Intel made AMD charge $70 less for their next 12-core single ccd x3d gameslop cpu.
Will Intel manage to gain any positive mindshare as they remain the value underdog for poorfags over the next few years? Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores? We will see.. odds are ill stay on my 14900k until 2029 or 2030 when Intel might finally be able to compete again with a worthy competing tech to 3d cache and a complete corporate restructuring having finally bore some kind of fruit.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:39:34 No.103974650
>the perfect case doesn't ex-
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:40:16 No.103974657
This thread seems to be wholly uneducated about anything telling people to buy cards not even out yet.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:40:31 No.103974661
>>103974618
It's still the 4090/5090
What part of "the best card for X at Y resolution is the best card in general" do you not understand?
It's still the 4090/5090
What part of "the best card for X at Y resolution is the best card in general" do you not understand?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:41:58 No.103974670
>>103974661
The part where 4 faggots all recommended 0 things then proceeded to throw shit at eachother instead of clarifying then accusing eachother of being samefagging redditors part maybe?
You faggots all act like you have a stake in this shit instead of just explaining your posts at all. One person posted a graph then deleted it so I discarded that post.
The part where 4 faggots all recommended 0 things then proceeded to throw shit at eachother instead of clarifying then accusing eachother of being samefagging redditors part maybe?
You faggots all act like you have a stake in this shit instead of just explaining your posts at all. One person posted a graph then deleted it so I discarded that post.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:42:09 No.103974673
>>103974641
God you people are insufferable, quit making yourself the poor victim your dear Intel is still the market leader in both desktop and enterprise CPUs.
God you people are insufferable, quit making yourself the poor victim your dear Intel is still the market leader in both desktop and enterprise CPUs.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:43:18 No.103974681
>>103974670
4 posts are literally telling you 4090 or 5090
4 posts are literally telling you 4090 or 5090
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:43:19 No.103974683
>>103974670
There is no 4k 240fps card unless you buy the 5090 and use 4x frame gen.
There is no 4k 240fps card unless you buy the 5090 and use 4x frame gen.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:44:32 No.103974690
>>103974683
Why not? Can't I just buy two and hook em up like they used to? I haven't fucked with pc gaming in a long time but I decided to change professions and I got a lot of free time now.
Why not? Can't I just buy two and hook em up like they used to? I haven't fucked with pc gaming in a long time but I decided to change professions and I got a lot of free time now.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:45:23 No.103974699
>>103974673
Just because they can produce more of an inferior product since they don't have to bid against 5000 other companies for tsmc capacity doesn't mean they're thriving. It just means they can take bigger orders than amd.
Just because they can produce more of an inferior product since they don't have to bid against 5000 other companies for tsmc capacity doesn't mean they're thriving. It just means they can take bigger orders than amd.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:45:32 No.103974701
>>103974681
And the 5090 just fucking says coming soon on every website I check so fuck you for telling me to buy something I can't.
And the 5090 just fucking says coming soon on every website I check so fuck you for telling me to buy something I can't.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:46:28 No.103974712
>>103974641
>Possibly foregoing TSMC silicon entirely for their cheaper, second-rate fabs just so they can put price pressure on AMD
Intel's fabs aren't cheaper. They're more expensive because they don't have external customers doing significant volume. They might look cheaper to buy from on a balance sheet, but the cost of Intel products using Intel fabs is illusory. The numbers are changed around every quarter to manipulate operating profit and losses.
>Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores?
But the 9800x3d msrp is $479?
>until 2029 or 2030 when Intel might finally be able to compete again
Intel is not going to survive the next two years with both design and fabs.
>Possibly foregoing TSMC silicon entirely for their cheaper, second-rate fabs just so they can put price pressure on AMD
Intel's fabs aren't cheaper. They're more expensive because they don't have external customers doing significant volume. They might look cheaper to buy from on a balance sheet, but the cost of Intel products using Intel fabs is illusory. The numbers are changed around every quarter to manipulate operating profit and losses.
>Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores?
But the 9800x3d msrp is $479?
>until 2029 or 2030 when Intel might finally be able to compete again
Intel is not going to survive the next two years with both design and fabs.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:46:32 No.103974713
>>103974701
Are you so fucking retarded you can't google "RTX 5090 release date"?
Are you so fucking retarded you can't google "RTX 5090 release date"?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:47:34 No.103974723
>>103974713
Are you too stupid to not recommend shit nobody can buy because it seems like that's the case?
I want shit TODAY
Are you too stupid to not recommend shit nobody can buy because it seems like that's the case?
I want shit TODAY
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:48:19 No.103974728
It's just one tweet. Chances AMD does Feburary at least? A March launch is such an obviously retarded idea. The 5070 is only 550 dollars and will come out a month before then. Most people will just buy that and AMD will gain no market share. Is the dispute with retailers and AIB partners who want their money back forcing this delay? No way AMD actually wants to launch this late, they sent the cards out to reviewers and shipped them to stores already for a reason.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:48:23 No.103974731
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:49:25 No.103974740
>>103974723
>I want shit TODAY
good luck everywhere is closed you can only get it shipped and have it come TOMMORROW
>I want shit TODAY
good luck everywhere is closed you can only get it shipped and have it come TOMMORROW
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:49:26 No.103974742
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:49:28 No.103974743
>>103974712
>Intel's fabs aren't cheaper. They're more expensive because they don't have external customers doing significant volume.
It is cheaper for Intel since they have to add the price of keeping idle fabs running to whatever they're having TSMC make for them.
>Intel is not going to survive the next two years with both design and fabs.
They won't be allowed to fail. That's not even in conversation. Too tactically important to the us govt.
>Intel's fabs aren't cheaper. They're more expensive because they don't have external customers doing significant volume.
It is cheaper for Intel since they have to add the price of keeping idle fabs running to whatever they're having TSMC make for them.
>Intel is not going to survive the next two years with both design and fabs.
They won't be allowed to fail. That's not even in conversation. Too tactically important to the us govt.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:51:09 No.103974757
>>103974742
Why can't you just admit you're a faggot that was wrong for sperging out when you already had the answer spoonfed to you?
Why can't you just admit you're a faggot that was wrong for sperging out when you already had the answer spoonfed to you?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:52:29 No.103974769
>>103974757
If the answer was anything but the op is retarded niggerbabble for recommending shit that doesn't exist yet it was wrong. Just ignore OPs in these threads. It's just a place to shill.
If the answer was anything but the op is retarded niggerbabble for recommending shit that doesn't exist yet it was wrong. Just ignore OPs in these threads. It's just a place to shill.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:53:08 No.103974775
>>103974743
>It is cheaper for Intel since they have to add the price of keeping idle fabs running to whatever they're having TSMC make for them.
No, it means that Intel has huge overheads to doing business. It doesn't make fabbing actually cheaper or give them cash to r&d and ramp the next couple nodes.
>Too tactically important to the us govt.
This is the dumbest take on this topic. The government doesn't give a shit about Intel products. Intel could become a fab only company and sell off it's product side right now, nothing in the CHIPS act prevents this.
>It is cheaper for Intel since they have to add the price of keeping idle fabs running to whatever they're having TSMC make for them.
No, it means that Intel has huge overheads to doing business. It doesn't make fabbing actually cheaper or give them cash to r&d and ramp the next couple nodes.
>Too tactically important to the us govt.
This is the dumbest take on this topic. The government doesn't give a shit about Intel products. Intel could become a fab only company and sell off it's product side right now, nothing in the CHIPS act prevents this.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:54:03 No.103974791
>>103974775
CHIPS act us old government, trump and Elon have new plans for Intel.
CHIPS act us old government, trump and Elon have new plans for Intel.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:54:24 No.103974796
>>103974775
The military cannot maintain opsec if they use chips designed by a rival. Intel silicon only in missiles and shit.
The military cannot maintain opsec if they use chips designed by a rival. Intel silicon only in missiles and shit.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:55:23 No.103974805
>>103974769
So basically I was talking to a marketer or fanboy?
Makes sense he got so fucking mad instead of just explaining his answer.
Fucking faggots on this board
So basically I was talking to a marketer or fanboy?
Makes sense he got so fucking mad instead of just explaining his answer.
Fucking faggots on this board
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:56:28 No.103974819
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:56:28 No.103974820
>>103974805
Yep welcome to pcbg sometimes it's worse and full of ai generated replies.
Yep welcome to pcbg sometimes it's worse and full of ai generated replies.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:56:29 No.103974821
>>103974690
you're dumb as fuck, just stop posting. There's no 4k 240 fps card without frame gen.
you're dumb as fuck, just stop posting. There's no 4k 240 fps card without frame gen.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:58:18 No.103974835
>>103974791
>trump and Elon have new plans for Intel.
None of which involve propping up Intel's consumer business forever. Elon can't afford it and whoever makes the best offer to Trump will get the carcass of Intel's IP and design teams.
>>103974796
>The military cannot maintain opsec if they use chips designed by a rival
What retarded shit is this? They aren't using the latest designs anyway and AMD is glowniggered too with their PSP and other crap. Everyone that designs silicon in the US is up to their eyes in national security letters.
>trump and Elon have new plans for Intel.
None of which involve propping up Intel's consumer business forever. Elon can't afford it and whoever makes the best offer to Trump will get the carcass of Intel's IP and design teams.
>>103974796
>The military cannot maintain opsec if they use chips designed by a rival
What retarded shit is this? They aren't using the latest designs anyway and AMD is glowniggered too with their PSP and other crap. Everyone that designs silicon in the US is up to their eyes in national security letters.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:58:19 No.103974836
>>103974820
This is easier to believe considering how the faggot acted like he had a stake in it so hard.
I live by a microcenter so I was just gonna walk in and see if they had a good selection but this faggot was really trying to set me up to look like an idiot walking in looking for a 5090
>>103974821
Then there is no good 4k card
This is easier to believe considering how the faggot acted like he had a stake in it so hard.
I live by a microcenter so I was just gonna walk in and see if they had a good selection but this faggot was really trying to set me up to look like an idiot walking in looking for a 5090
>>103974821
Then there is no good 4k card
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:58:30 No.103974840
>>103974742
Where in your original post did you require it be available today?
No one can read your fucking mind about this requirement so people were looking out for you because the 5090 releases in under two weeks
If you're looking for the best, why settle for the 2nd best once that 2 week period rolls over?
Where in your original post did you require it be available today?
No one can read your fucking mind about this requirement so people were looking out for you because the 5090 releases in under two weeks
If you're looking for the best, why settle for the 2nd best once that 2 week period rolls over?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:59:56 No.103974853
>>103974840
I don't give a fuck about the original post mr csi miami offscreen extra
I clarified that super early as soon as it was recommended.
If you just wanna argue and talk shit then go to twitter where you belong cause you clearly don't wanna talk about parts
I don't give a fuck about the original post mr csi miami offscreen extra
I clarified that super early as soon as it was recommended.
If you just wanna argue and talk shit then go to twitter where you belong cause you clearly don't wanna talk about parts
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:00:10 No.103974855
>>103974835
Put it this way they're opening themselves up to a Palestine pager attack type scenario if their chips aren't fabbed by our dear ally Israel.
Put it this way they're opening themselves up to a Palestine pager attack type scenario if their chips aren't fabbed by our dear ally Israel.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:00:41 No.103974861
>>103974836
You are an actual fucking idiot if you think anyone working at microcenter fucking cares if some random person asks for a product and thinks less of them for it if it's not released yet
They'll just politely tell you it's not out yet and recommend you the next best thing they have and then forget about your existence the moment you leave
You are an actual fucking idiot if you think anyone working at microcenter fucking cares if some random person asks for a product and thinks less of them for it if it's not released yet
They'll just politely tell you it's not out yet and recommend you the next best thing they have and then forget about your existence the moment you leave
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:00:59 No.103974866
>>103974835
>None of which involve propping up Intel's consumer business forever. Elon can't afford it and whoever makes the best offer to Trump will get the carcass of Intel's IP and design teams.
They'll just give Intel more government money in return for shares, then once Intel stock is at an all time high they'll dump it for a quick buck and abandon them, elons best friend is a pro at this shit.
>None of which involve propping up Intel's consumer business forever. Elon can't afford it and whoever makes the best offer to Trump will get the carcass of Intel's IP and design teams.
They'll just give Intel more government money in return for shares, then once Intel stock is at an all time high they'll dump it for a quick buck and abandon them, elons best friend is a pro at this shit.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:02:47 No.103974883
>>103974861
No, it's you that is the idiot. Next time know which parts are actually available instead of pretending.
>just google it
so I can get some dogshit misinformation from "ai" like you sent?
hah
The op here is also garbage for not dating the release dates of any of these so called no released parts. That's a failure on you and this entire thread for spewing so much trash
No, it's you that is the idiot. Next time know which parts are actually available instead of pretending.
>just google it
so I can get some dogshit misinformation from "ai" like you sent?
hah
The op here is also garbage for not dating the release dates of any of these so called no released parts. That's a failure on you and this entire thread for spewing so much trash
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:03:51 No.103974892
>>103974883
>has to rely on other people for information
>doesn't think he's the fucking idiot himself
>has to rely on other people for information
>doesn't think he's the fucking idiot himself
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:04:48 No.103974901
>>103974892
>make thread about parts
>it's actually just about missles and random military or market shit and not parts
>lel just google it, I don't wanna talk about parts
faggot, this thread is trash
>make thread about parts
>it's actually just about missles and random military or market shit and not parts
>lel just google it, I don't wanna talk about parts
faggot, this thread is trash
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:05:30 No.103974909
>>103974641
>Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores?
I was saying fuck AMD for its $300 six core when it launched the R5 5600X. Still bought one. Prior I had been battling the AMDrones who were suggesting the R5 3600 over the i5 10400 at half the cost of the R5, and I'll do the same in the future if Intel can shit out something decent at the low end
>>103974743
>They won't be allowed to fail. That's not even in conversation. Too tactically important to the us govt.
Correct.
>>103974742
>why recommend the fucking 5090
Because if you want the best it makes sense for most people to wait for 10 days. But then again you're some kind of retarded troll who can't even specify he has nine days left to live, so logic doesn't apply to you
>Will anyone actually say fuck AMD for $800 8-cores?
I was saying fuck AMD for its $300 six core when it launched the R5 5600X. Still bought one. Prior I had been battling the AMDrones who were suggesting the R5 3600 over the i5 10400 at half the cost of the R5, and I'll do the same in the future if Intel can shit out something decent at the low end
>>103974743
>They won't be allowed to fail. That's not even in conversation. Too tactically important to the us govt.
Correct.
>>103974742
>why recommend the fucking 5090
Because if you want the best it makes sense for most people to wait for 10 days. But then again you're some kind of retarded troll who can't even specify he has nine days left to live, so logic doesn't apply to you
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:05:31 No.103974910
>>103973865
this is the most baffling part
did they really expect to see a 70 class card at over $600 after people complained about nvidia doing the same thing last gen?
this is the most baffling part
did they really expect to see a 70 class card at over $600 after people complained about nvidia doing the same thing last gen?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:07:07 No.103974927
>>103974855
>if their chips aren't fabbed by our dear ally Israel
The fabs in Kiryat Gat and the Haifa design office aren't going anywhere. Keep the former with Intel, give the latter to whoever buys the products side. If anything, it might provide cover if the two are formally seperated. Intel's consumer CPUs being controlled by the Haifa team/Unit 8200 has been a meme for years. If they become a secondary design team at another company, they can still backdoor certain components of the design without having responsibility for everything.
>if their chips aren't fabbed by our dear ally Israel
The fabs in Kiryat Gat and the Haifa design office aren't going anywhere. Keep the former with Intel, give the latter to whoever buys the products side. If anything, it might provide cover if the two are formally seperated. Intel's consumer CPUs being controlled by the Haifa team/Unit 8200 has been a meme for years. If they become a secondary design team at another company, they can still backdoor certain components of the design without having responsibility for everything.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:07:40 No.103974931
>>103974910
The 5070 ti is $750, and I guarantee that a bunch of the AIBs 5070s will be $600+
The 5070 ti is $750, and I guarantee that a bunch of the AIBs 5070s will be $600+
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:08:48 No.103974942
>>103974622
>You must be literally retarded to think that AMD can beat even the 4090. Why even include that line?
Because I have a 6950xt, and I know it's the real under-reported powerhouse. It ships underclocked (because it's a power hungry card). It can be overclocked past the 4090, at raster. Realize the 4090 has more vram. 24gb vs 16gb. And the Titan X actually beats the 6950xt, but it's 12gb vram.
>picrel
Your example with the lemons is pretty weird. Lemons in the real world don't tend to look like that, and it's probably because real lemons are translucent to some degree.
The shadows are underwhelming. rt off, it's a little too blurry. rt on, it's too sharp (maybe a dev mistake?)
I can tell you the shadows on the lemons are way too harsh on the rt on example, while you will notice they are missing entirely on the rt off example (dev mistake?). The shadows on the lemons with rt on should be hard like that, if on eggs for example (a smooth textured item).
Things to consider that that define shadow sharpness.
>distance to the shadow - more distance, the sharper it tends to appear. closer, it gets softer
>full illumination package - things like ears basically turn into emitters, neon colors take light and shift the temperature sometimes in strange ways, blacklights can also alter the situation. dust in the air can reduce transmission and increase scatter.
> the texture of the item, if smoother you see more exactness
>due to diffraction, you will find shadows get softer at a distance
>look out for certain effects, like bokeh balls from trees, cast on smoothish forest floors
>angle of the shadow seems to play a role
The basket in both cases doesn't hold up seen that close. You should be able to see each individual strip in the weave. This is one reason rt isn't very good, it steals resources better spent on handling more genuine detail.
>You must be literally retarded to think that AMD can beat even the 4090. Why even include that line?
Because I have a 6950xt, and I know it's the real under-reported powerhouse. It ships underclocked (because it's a power hungry card). It can be overclocked past the 4090, at raster. Realize the 4090 has more vram. 24gb vs 16gb. And the Titan X actually beats the 6950xt, but it's 12gb vram.
>picrel
Your example with the lemons is pretty weird. Lemons in the real world don't tend to look like that, and it's probably because real lemons are translucent to some degree.
The shadows are underwhelming. rt off, it's a little too blurry. rt on, it's too sharp (maybe a dev mistake?)
I can tell you the shadows on the lemons are way too harsh on the rt on example, while you will notice they are missing entirely on the rt off example (dev mistake?). The shadows on the lemons with rt on should be hard like that, if on eggs for example (a smooth textured item).
Things to consider that that define shadow sharpness.
>distance to the shadow - more distance, the sharper it tends to appear. closer, it gets softer
>full illumination package - things like ears basically turn into emitters, neon colors take light and shift the temperature sometimes in strange ways, blacklights can also alter the situation. dust in the air can reduce transmission and increase scatter.
> the texture of the item, if smoother you see more exactness
>due to diffraction, you will find shadows get softer at a distance
>look out for certain effects, like bokeh balls from trees, cast on smoothish forest floors
>angle of the shadow seems to play a role
The basket in both cases doesn't hold up seen that close. You should be able to see each individual strip in the weave. This is one reason rt isn't very good, it steals resources better spent on handling more genuine detail.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)22:08:53 No.103974944
Sell me on amd
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