/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Perv: >>103956823
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Perv: >>103956823
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:00:13 No.103959277
I am tired of waiting for my 5090.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:00:17 No.103959278
Nvidia won
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:01:32 No.103959294
Will 5080 saturate PCIe 4 mobo? Useless PCIe 5 mobos are never in stock or ridiculously overpriced.
>inb4 5080
i'm upgrading from eight year old card so its good for me
>inb4 5080
i'm upgrading from eight year old card so its good for me
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:01:52 No.103959300
kek
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:02:06 No.103959306
what the fuck is amd doing?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:03:01 No.103959313
>>103959306
Only they know
Only they know
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:03:09 No.103959314
>>103959300
so still better than any other card on the market? is this problem that you're poor, or just jelly?
so still better than any other card on the market? is this problem that you're poor, or just jelly?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:03:18 No.103959320
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:04:54 No.103959333
Humiliation Ritual
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:05:32 No.103959340
>>103959300
ayyymd can't even handle 1 fps with path tracing turned on
ayyymd can't even handle 1 fps with path tracing turned on
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:05:48 No.103959342
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:06:08 No.103959348
>>103959294
A 4090 barely saturates PCIe4x8 so no, a 5080 will not saturate PCIe4x16
A 4090 barely saturates PCIe4x8 so no, a 5080 will not saturate PCIe4x16
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:06:36 No.103959355
Daily reminder that DLSS is for when you want ray tracing. If you do not want ray tracing, then you do not need DLSS and you should buy a cheaper AMD card. If you want the best (ray tracing), then you need Nvidia DLSS to have enough of a frame rate for a playable experience.
Yes you can use DLSS to play 4K on games when you have a 1440P graphics card. For example I enable it on my 4070 Super to boost frames in Elder Scrolls online. But this is because my card is too cheap for 4K and I am compensating for my lack of money.
Yes you can use DLSS to play 4K on games when you have a 1440P graphics card. For example I enable it on my 4070 Super to boost frames in Elder Scrolls online. But this is because my card is too cheap for 4K and I am compensating for my lack of money.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:07:01 No.103959363
>>103959348
but why did they bother making 50 series PCIe 5 then
but why did they bother making 50 series PCIe 5 then
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:07:11 No.103959366
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:07:41 No.103959372
Okay - Build as shown, Canadian dollars, moderate to high budget
But the CPU... Imagine you're doing half gaming and half 3D in Blender, what CPU would you lean towards /pcbg/????
But the CPU... Imagine you're doing half gaming and half 3D in Blender, what CPU would you lean towards /pcbg/????
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:08:45 No.103959388
The power of the 5090 at 575 watts
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:08:49 No.103959390
>>103959366
funny thing is that's the actual price in europe
funny thing is that's the actual price in europe
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:09:23 No.103959396
>3.7x ai
its going to sell like hot cakes
its going to sell like hot cakes
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:09:28 No.103959398
>>103959372
9800X3D
9800X3D
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:09:42 No.103959400
>>103959372
>185 leaf bucks for AIO
>370 leaf bucks for motherboard
>CL36 instead of CL30 for DDR5-6000
wtf are you doing leafbro?
Get a Thermalright Frozen Edge or Arctic LFIII
Get a B650E motherboard
Get CL30 RAM
>185 leaf bucks for AIO
>370 leaf bucks for motherboard
>CL36 instead of CL30 for DDR5-6000
wtf are you doing leafbro?
Get a Thermalright Frozen Edge or Arctic LFIII
Get a B650E motherboard
Get CL30 RAM
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:09:50 No.103959401
>>103959277
2 more months.
2 more months.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:09:57 No.103959403
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:11:17 No.103959417
posting in a Nvidia Nigger Cattle thread
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:11:20 No.103959418
>>103959300
>path tracing
Show me GPU that can, lol
You fags don't even know what you're posting, do you?
>path tracing
Show me GPU that can, lol
You fags don't even know what you're posting, do you?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:11:27 No.103959421
>>103959396
Not enough vram to be useful for developing models and not cheap enough to be useful for inferencing
Not enough vram to be useful for developing models and not cheap enough to be useful for inferencing
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:12:42 No.103959434
>>103959421
16gb is the bare minimum for inferencing these days
16gb is the bare minimum for inferencing these days
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:13:11 No.103959442
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:13:56 No.103959448
>>103959417
Can we just face reality. If you think the 5090 is getting poor frame rates, then every other card is just dog shit.
Can we just face reality. If you think the 5090 is getting poor frame rates, then every other card is just dog shit.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:13:58 No.103959451
>>103959266
It's amazing to live in a time where graphics cads are an investment.
It's amazing to live in a time where graphics cads are an investment.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:15:20 No.103959464
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:15:54 No.103959470
>>103959451
lmao someone fucked up
lmao someone fucked up
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:16:00 No.103959472
>>103959355
>DLSS is for when you want ray tracing
Absolutely wrong. DLSS is the technology that most often gives the best image quality in rasterization
>DLSS is for when you want ray tracing
Absolutely wrong. DLSS is the technology that most often gives the best image quality in rasterization
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:17:21 No.103959494
>>103959470
That dude bought a box with a brick in it.
That dude bought a box with a brick in it.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:18:04 No.103959503
>>103959472
Your benchmarks are showing a 1440p card, the cheap ass 4070.
Your benchmarks are showing a 1440p card, the cheap ass 4070.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:18:46 No.103959514
>>103959417
the 5090 will still be the most powerful card in traditional raster
the 5090 will still be the most powerful card in traditional raster
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:19:51 No.103959525
anyone with a pg32ucdm wanna tell me how the pixel refresh behaves on that particular unit?
>>103953898
>>103953898
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:21:01 No.103959536
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:22:58 No.103959559
>>103959486
It's ML enhanced rasterization
>>103959503
I don't need more
Arguably the 4070 is a good entry 4K card
It's ML enhanced rasterization
>>103959503
I don't need more
Arguably the 4070 is a good entry 4K card
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:24:45 No.103959590
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:27:39 No.103959623
>>103959536
I gave my buddy an EVGA 3060 12gb that he doesn't even use. I never knew it would hold it's vale. I should have kept it as a backup if I had known.
I gave my buddy an EVGA 3060 12gb that he doesn't even use. I never knew it would hold it's vale. I should have kept it as a backup if I had known.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:29:05 No.103959647
So this is fine right?
I'll be buying the ram and cpu at Micro Center which both are being sold at msrp. The Motherboard I'll be buying on Amazon because Micro Center doesn't even offer the motherboard.
Everything else I'm carrying over from my current build and I plan on getting a 5080 asap.
I'll be buying the ram and cpu at Micro Center which both are being sold at msrp. The Motherboard I'll be buying on Amazon because Micro Center doesn't even offer the motherboard.
Everything else I'm carrying over from my current build and I plan on getting a 5080 asap.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:30:55 No.103959665
Im upgrading from a 2070, should I wait for the 5070ti or go for a 4080 super?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:32:03 No.103959671
>>103959665
Wait a week for 5070 reviews
Wait a week for 5070 reviews
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:32:05 No.103959673
>>103959590
If we're talking full resolution, it's a 1080p card. You can use that for 1440p DLSS Quality or 4K DLSS Performance.
4K DLSS Performance looks the best of the three.
https://imgsli.com/Mjk0NTkz
I have a first gen 1440p G-sync IPS, but I often use DLDSR to target a higher than native resolution and then downsample back to 1440p. The apparent difference between 1440p Quality and 4K Performance would be even greater (in favor of 4K DLSS Performance) if I had a native 4K monitor. If RTX 50 had been good, I would have done a rebuild around a 4K 240 Hz monitor and a high end RTX 50 card
4K DLSS Performance > 1440p DLSS Quality. If you're buying now, there's really no reason not to go 4K, as pretty much any Geforce card will make a 4K monitor look better than a 1440p monitor.
>>103959665
Obviously do not buy last gen cards.
If we're talking full resolution, it's a 1080p card. You can use that for 1440p DLSS Quality or 4K DLSS Performance.
4K DLSS Performance looks the best of the three.
https://imgsli.com/Mjk0NTkz
I have a first gen 1440p G-sync IPS, but I often use DLDSR to target a higher than native resolution and then downsample back to 1440p. The apparent difference between 1440p Quality and 4K Performance would be even greater (in favor of 4K DLSS Performance) if I had a native 4K monitor. If RTX 50 had been good, I would have done a rebuild around a 4K 240 Hz monitor and a high end RTX 50 card
4K DLSS Performance > 1440p DLSS Quality. If you're buying now, there's really no reason not to go 4K, as pretty much any Geforce card will make a 4K monitor look better than a 1440p monitor.
>>103959665
Obviously do not buy last gen cards.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:32:37 No.103959679
>>103959647
What case? Generally you buy a mini itx board you put it in a small case. But with such a strong cpu you would want a good gpu, right? But a good gpu wouldn't fit in a small case.
What case? Generally you buy a mini itx board you put it in a small case. But with such a strong cpu you would want a good gpu, right? But a good gpu wouldn't fit in a small case.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:33:03 No.103959683
>>103959665
Wait for review. You don't even really know what you are comparing right now. You might as well ask if you should buy a 6080.
Wait for review. You don't even really know what you are comparing right now. You might as well ask if you should buy a 6080.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:34:45 No.103959696
>>103959300
Ray tracing is not designed to be rasterized. It was always the intention of NVIDIA to design AI around the need for rendering Ray Tracing. You simply cannot effectively rasterize raytraced rendering in a game without some form of AI assistance. That's why RT and AI work hand in hand and it was the perfect use case to introduce AI into NVIDIA's GPU design.
Ray tracing is not designed to be rasterized. It was always the intention of NVIDIA to design AI around the need for rendering Ray Tracing. You simply cannot effectively rasterize raytraced rendering in a game without some form of AI assistance. That's why RT and AI work hand in hand and it was the perfect use case to introduce AI into NVIDIA's GPU design.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:35:01 No.103959704
>>103959671
>>103959683
I thought the specs were out and thus the review was more or less already made, but I guess not
How bad is that frame gen shit anyway? they really seem to be banking on it
>>103959683
I thought the specs were out and thus the review was more or less already made, but I guess not
How bad is that frame gen shit anyway? they really seem to be banking on it
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:36:54 No.103959725
>>103959673
>4K 240 Hz monitor
OLED* monitor
>>103959672
The webm you're looking at >>103959472 contains DLSS enhanced rasterization. Do I have to spell everything out for you?
>4K 240 Hz monitor
OLED* monitor
>>103959672
The webm you're looking at >>103959472 contains DLSS enhanced rasterization. Do I have to spell everything out for you?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:36:55 No.103959726
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:38:06 No.103959739
>>103959704
>How bad is that frame gen shit anyway? they really seem to be banking on it
That's my point. No one really knows. You cant rely on specs. Hard data needs to be collected.
>How bad is that frame gen shit anyway? they really seem to be banking on it
That's my point. No one really knows. You cant rely on specs. Hard data needs to be collected.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:38:16 No.103959742
Why can't AMD stick to one fucking naming scheme?
Fucking stick to one god damnit.
Fucking stick to one god damnit.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:40:44 No.103959765
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:41:30 No.103959775
>>103959742
they think naming is the reason for their dogshit sales
they think naming is the reason for their dogshit sales
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:41:41 No.103959778
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:42:09 No.103959785
Is there any appreciable difference between Killer NICs and Realtek NICs?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:42:47 No.103959790
>>103959739
Guess so, the fram gen seems a but dubious to me
Like its too good to be true, there has to be a catch, which is probably making the game look smudged and shitty
Guess so, the fram gen seems a but dubious to me
Like its too good to be true, there has to be a catch, which is probably making the game look smudged and shitty
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:43:52 No.103959803
>>103959725
God your brain is smooth.
God your brain is smooth.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:44:18 No.103959810
>>103959742
No company will ever stick to a naming scheme. For example why was it called the Xbox 360 instead of Xbox 2. Because Sony released the PS3 and people would have thought the Xbox 2 was old. So you have this weird my naming scheme, trying to match my competition, but also trying to take advantage of consumer ignorance thinking larger number better.
No company will ever stick to a naming scheme. For example why was it called the Xbox 360 instead of Xbox 2. Because Sony released the PS3 and people would have thought the Xbox 2 was old. So you have this weird my naming scheme, trying to match my competition, but also trying to take advantage of consumer ignorance thinking larger number better.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:44:31 No.103959815
>>103959742
>steals Intel's chipset naming scheme
>steals Intel's Core i# naming scheme
>steals Intel's Core Ultra naming scheme
>steals Apple's Pro Max naming scheme
>steals Nvidia's naming scheme
Did I miss anything?
>steals Intel's chipset naming scheme
>steals Intel's Core i# naming scheme
>steals Intel's Core Ultra naming scheme
>steals Apple's Pro Max naming scheme
>steals Nvidia's naming scheme
Did I miss anything?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:47:13 No.103959841
>>103959765
Well I invite you to prove me otherwise? What consumer GPU on the market is able to effectively render raytraced lighting/reflections etc. without the aid of AI in some way at a playable framerate for a modern game? The point is, ray tracing for video games is a meme and was never designed to be used in video games until NVIDIA found a way to make it happen.
Well I invite you to prove me otherwise? What consumer GPU on the market is able to effectively render raytraced lighting/reflections etc. without the aid of AI in some way at a playable framerate for a modern game? The point is, ray tracing for video games is a meme and was never designed to be used in video games until NVIDIA found a way to make it happen.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:48:23 No.103959856
>>103959790
Well to be honest if all things are the same, Id rather have an extra option that I may not use. I was adamant against DLSS but it is a nice feature to have now.
Well to be honest if all things are the same, Id rather have an extra option that I may not use. I was adamant against DLSS but it is a nice feature to have now.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:48:59 No.103959863
>>103959841
AI is irrelevant has no place in rendering lights
AI is irrelevant has no place in rendering lights
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:49:41 No.103959872
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:50:43 No.103959882
GPU prices now be like tomatoes at walmart. How much do they cost? I don't know you'll see when you go to the store.
>pic related, not $2000
>pic related, not $2000
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:51:16 No.103959886
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:55:08 No.103959924
>>103959886
Asrock is using them on some of their boards
Asrock is using them on some of their boards
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:56:14 No.103959939
>>103959863
AI is obviously not meant for rendering lights and reflections but it is used to "reconstruct" lighting that provides such ray traced effects at lower resource consumption. It is, in a way, a method of providing ray traced effects while still allowing for playable framerates. Until a more effective method is conceived and implemented NVIDIA will keep doubling down on it. The only other options that I see are the more efficient node processes such as 3nm and 2nm but we will have to wait and see for RTX 60 series to see what NVIDIA ultimately plans to do to provide consumers with that generational uplift in rasterization that they obviously want.
AI is obviously not meant for rendering lights and reflections but it is used to "reconstruct" lighting that provides such ray traced effects at lower resource consumption. It is, in a way, a method of providing ray traced effects while still allowing for playable framerates. Until a more effective method is conceived and implemented NVIDIA will keep doubling down on it. The only other options that I see are the more efficient node processes such as 3nm and 2nm but we will have to wait and see for RTX 60 series to see what NVIDIA ultimately plans to do to provide consumers with that generational uplift in rasterization that they obviously want.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:58:53 No.103959971
>>103959742
They should have stayed to vega naming. It was so cool.
But consumer brain doesn't think like that...
>bigger number!? MORE BETTER!!!
They should have stayed to vega naming. It was so cool.
But consumer brain doesn't think like that...
>bigger number!? MORE BETTER!!!
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:05:00 No.103960016
>>103959314
>>103959340
>>103959418
>immediate damage control
You know what you're doing is very obvious to us, right?
>>103959340
>>103959418
>immediate damage control
You know what you're doing is very obvious to us, right?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:08:05 No.103960044
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:11:59 No.103960086
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:13:24 No.103960098
>>103959363
so you would buy a 1000$ mobo like a retard
so you would buy a 1000$ mobo like a retard
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:13:36 No.103960100
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:13:37 No.103960102
5090d is around 33% faster than 4090 in blender hopefully 5090 get another 10-15% on top of that
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:13:53 No.103960103
>>103959417
why do jeets always put the $ at the end of prices? it's the deadest giveaway in the world that someone is an ESLmonkey third worlder
why do jeets always put the $ at the end of prices? it's the deadest giveaway in the world that someone is an ESLmonkey third worlder
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:15:02 No.103960110
>>103959494
ebay always sides with buyers in disputes, so he got a box with a brick in it for free I guess
ebay always sides with buyers in disputes, so he got a box with a brick in it for free I guess
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:16:07 No.103960115
>>103960016
Post AMD GPU that can do path tracing at higher frames, anon, that's an easy win for you and your company you stand by. Isn't it?
Post AMD GPU that can do path tracing at higher frames, anon, that's an easy win for you and your company you stand by. Isn't it?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:16:27 No.103960118
Nvidia Gimpworksâ„¢. Create the problem and sell the solution.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:18:35 No.103960148
>>103959971
Yeah the Vega naming scheme they had was GOAT'd. Vega 56, 64, etc. Imagine by now we'd be on the Vega 512 or something. I firmly believe AMD changing their naming scheme all the time is a component in their shrinking market share.
Yeah the Vega naming scheme they had was GOAT'd. Vega 56, 64, etc. Imagine by now we'd be on the Vega 512 or something. I firmly believe AMD changing their naming scheme all the time is a component in their shrinking market share.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:18:59 No.103960152
>>103959300
RT is the single worst thing to happen to PC graphics in the last 15 years with TAA as a strong second. I'd take the excessive HDR Bloom & Tessellation of yesteryear over it because at least those technologies didn't make games unplayable without them (Indiana Jones) or sap the performance of games that didn't use those functions by siphoning off ever-expanding acres of valuable die space for them. Why not just buy a console at this point? It'll be cheaper than the cards Nvidia is selling and thanks to their Jensen's new "Technologies" PC games will render at console internal resolution and performance levels anyway.
RT is the single worst thing to happen to PC graphics in the last 15 years with TAA as a strong second. I'd take the excessive HDR Bloom & Tessellation of yesteryear over it because at least those technologies didn't make games unplayable without them (Indiana Jones) or sap the performance of games that didn't use those functions by siphoning off ever-expanding acres of valuable die space for them. Why not just buy a console at this point? It'll be cheaper than the cards Nvidia is selling and thanks to their Jensen's new "Technologies" PC games will render at console internal resolution and performance levels anyway.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:20:32 No.103960174
>>103959442
no path tracing enabled
no path tracing enabled
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:22:58 No.103960194
>>103960152
real-time RT is good in principle, nvidia just forced it out the door too early, hardware is just not ready to do fully raytraced lighting in anything but the simplest scenes
TAA and deferred rendering were definitely the worst things that happened to PC graphics though, hopefully once raytracing actually IS performant enough, we can go back to forward rendering, because it makes deferred rendering obsolete
real-time RT is good in principle, nvidia just forced it out the door too early, hardware is just not ready to do fully raytraced lighting in anything but the simplest scenes
TAA and deferred rendering were definitely the worst things that happened to PC graphics though, hopefully once raytracing actually IS performant enough, we can go back to forward rendering, because it makes deferred rendering obsolete
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:24:16 No.103960203
>>103960152
>at least those technologies didn't make games unplayable without them (Indiana Jones)
Indiana Jones is rendered unplayable by the excessive amounts of actual jewish propaganda, just like nu-Wolfenstein games that actively fellate kikes while making you commit white genocide by killing organized white supremacy. But I digress. I hope RT (jewish) is only required for excessively jewish games in the future as well.
>at least those technologies didn't make games unplayable without them (Indiana Jones)
Indiana Jones is rendered unplayable by the excessive amounts of actual jewish propaganda, just like nu-Wolfenstein games that actively fellate kikes while making you commit white genocide by killing organized white supremacy. But I digress. I hope RT (jewish) is only required for excessively jewish games in the future as well.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:27:44 No.103960239
Retarded question, but how shitty is it if a motherboard is sharing the primary PCIe 5.0 x16 with some M.2 slots, where if the M.2s are used the PCIe slot goes to x8?
I'm likely to keep this motherboard as long as AM5 is supported, I don't upgrade very often so I do want it to be future-proof. But if you guys think AM5 is going to become obsolete before PCIe 5.0 x8 becomes a bottleneck, then this is a non-issue, right?
The mobo (gigabyte x870 aorus elite ice) only has two other M.2 slots so if I ever get a 3rd SSD it will slash my primary pcie port. Which sucks because the rest of the board is good, but this is way worse than the typical configuration where you have 3 slots all independent of the main pcie slot (sometimes slowing down the auxiliary pcie 4.0 slots at worst).
I'm likely to keep this motherboard as long as AM5 is supported, I don't upgrade very often so I do want it to be future-proof. But if you guys think AM5 is going to become obsolete before PCIe 5.0 x8 becomes a bottleneck, then this is a non-issue, right?
The mobo (gigabyte x870 aorus elite ice) only has two other M.2 slots so if I ever get a 3rd SSD it will slash my primary pcie port. Which sucks because the rest of the board is good, but this is way worse than the typical configuration where you have 3 slots all independent of the main pcie slot (sometimes slowing down the auxiliary pcie 4.0 slots at worst).
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:33:50 No.103960309
>>103960174
Overdrive = path tracing, numbnuts
Overdrive = path tracing, numbnuts
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:34:34 No.103960320
>>103960239
AM5 will be obsolete before PCIe4x8 becomes a bottleneck for gaming.
AM5 will be obsolete before PCIe4x8 becomes a bottleneck for gaming.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:35:13 No.103960328
So 5080 is completely doa right? No way you get a 5080 when you can get a 4090
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:37:13 No.103960350
>>103960320
I heard the 4090 can already come close to saturating 4x16 / 5x8, no?
I heard the 4090 can already come close to saturating 4x16 / 5x8, no?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:37:15 No.103960351
>>103960239
>I'm likely to keep this motherboard as long as AM5 is supported, I don't upgrade very often so I do want it to be future-proof. But if you guys think AM5 is going to become obsolete before PCIe 5.0 x8 becomes a bottleneck, then this is a non-issue, right?
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870-AORUS-ELITE-WIFI7-ICE/sp#sp
>The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU connectors share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot.
>When the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU connector is populated, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode.
PCIe 4.0 x8 = PCIe 3.0 x16, and considering there's no difference in scaling at 4K with a 4090 it'll be fine don't worry.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/28.html
>I'm likely to keep this motherboard as long as AM5 is supported, I don't upgrade very often so I do want it to be future-proof. But if you guys think AM5 is going to become obsolete before PCIe 5.0 x8 becomes a bottleneck, then this is a non-issue, right?
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboar
>The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU connectors share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot.
>When the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU connector is populated, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode.
PCIe 4.0 x8 = PCIe 3.0 x16, and considering there's no difference in scaling at 4K with a 4090 it'll be fine don't worry.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:39:05 No.103960373
>>103960350
LMAO, no. Not even the 5090 can saturate 4x16/5x8.
LMAO, no. Not even the 5090 can saturate 4x16/5x8.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:40:13 No.103960385
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:40:27 No.103960387
>>103960351
>>103960373
Oh. Nice. I'm retarded then.
Gigabyte it is then (because all the good cheaper boards cost way the fuck more in UK prices right now for some reason, and the MSI tomahawk looks better but costs EVEN more)
>>103960373
Oh. Nice. I'm retarded then.
Gigabyte it is then (because all the good cheaper boards cost way the fuck more in UK prices right now for some reason, and the MSI tomahawk looks better but costs EVEN more)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:43:24 No.103960418
>>103960373
It's crazy to me how far ahead PCI-Express is with respect to GPU bandwidth capabilities but neither DisplayPort nor HDMI seem to be able to stay ahead of the curve with display bandwidth without resorting to DSC.
It's crazy to me how far ahead PCI-Express is with respect to GPU bandwidth capabilities but neither DisplayPort nor HDMI seem to be able to stay ahead of the curve with display bandwidth without resorting to DSC.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:43:30 No.103960419
>>103960309
not 4k
not 4k
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:43:49 No.103960422
>>103960350
Not AFAIK which, to be fair, is just the GN and TPU benchmarks. There are some outliers but in general 4x8 is around 98% of 4x16 - not noticeable in practical use. In any case, you have PCie5 so you really don't have to worry. Your CPU will be a bigger bottleneck by the time a card comes out that's perceptibly hampered by 5x8. Plus, you can always just spec your storage to avoid the lane sharing.
Not AFAIK which, to be fair, is just the GN and TPU benchmarks. There are some outliers but in general 4x8 is around 98% of 4x16 - not noticeable in practical use. In any case, you have PCie5 so you really don't have to worry. Your CPU will be a bigger bottleneck by the time a card comes out that's perceptibly hampered by 5x8. Plus, you can always just spec your storage to avoid the lane sharing.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:45:32 No.103960439
>>103960385
So you have no argument?
So you have no argument?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:48:47 No.103960470
>>103960439
I criticized your favorite company for making shit overpriced products that dont deliver the market leadership they claim. That was my entire arguement. Contrary to what you may believe I don't have to prove shit about their competition to do that so cope and seethe ;^)
I criticized your favorite company for making shit overpriced products that dont deliver the market leadership they claim. That was my entire arguement. Contrary to what you may believe I don't have to prove shit about their competition to do that so cope and seethe ;^)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:49:22 No.103960477
>>103960418
DisplayPort and HDMI have very few pins to transfer all that data. PCI has lots of wiggle room. Gen 5 is basically useless right now.
DisplayPort and HDMI have very few pins to transfer all that data. PCI has lots of wiggle room. Gen 5 is basically useless right now.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:51:45 No.103960499
ummm novideosissies?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:53:38 No.103960517
>>103960499
imb4 they say something about amd card to deflect
imb4 they say something about amd card to deflect
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:54:13 No.103960524
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:54:15 No.103960525
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:55:16 No.103960532
>>103960524
I can get a legit 4090 for around same price as you getting a 5080fe lmao get scammed retard
I can get a legit 4090 for around same price as you getting a 5080fe lmao get scammed retard
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:56:46 No.103960543
>>103960470
>your favorite company
That's projection, anon. I have no favorite company. If intel releases best GPU tomorrow, I'll say their GPU is best and I will buy it. As simple as.
I was only pointing out that there is no GPU that can do path tracing at high frames and that benchmark is ridiculous.
60 fps 4k path tracing GPU would be sick. Your benchmark was just retarded.
>your favorite company
That's projection, anon. I have no favorite company. If intel releases best GPU tomorrow, I'll say their GPU is best and I will buy it. As simple as.
I was only pointing out that there is no GPU that can do path tracing at high frames and that benchmark is ridiculous.
60 fps 4k path tracing GPU would be sick. Your benchmark was just retarded.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:58:04 No.103960559
>>103960419
Who cares?
Who cares?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:01:02 No.103960586
>>103960470
No, they have market leadership. Everyone buys Nvidia products, even when AMD has a substantially better product at a given price point. It's stupid, but Nvidia could shit out a graphics card that's only 1% better at rasterization than the previous gen, increase the price by $100, and just brag about AI features even if they suck or are pointlessly impractical, and AMD will lose market share no matter what they do.
No, they have market leadership. Everyone buys Nvidia products, even when AMD has a substantially better product at a given price point. It's stupid, but Nvidia could shit out a graphics card that's only 1% better at rasterization than the previous gen, increase the price by $100, and just brag about AI features even if they suck or are pointlessly impractical, and AMD will lose market share no matter what they do.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:01:55 No.103960597
>>103960532
The lies AMDrones tell in this thread are insane
The lies AMDrones tell in this thread are insane
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:02:32 No.103960605
>>103959266
stupid question but if my cpu has an iGPU is it possible my PC is defaulting to using it over my normal GPU even if my monitor is only plugged into my GPU and not my motherboard?
stupid question but if my cpu has an iGPU is it possible my PC is defaulting to using it over my normal GPU even if my monitor is only plugged into my GPU and not my motherboard?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:04:08 No.103960621
>>103960605
I don't think it's impossible, but you must have really fucked with the settings to make that happen.
I don't think it's impossible, but you must have really fucked with the settings to make that happen.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:06:29 No.103960646
>>103960586
>even when AMD has a substantially better product at a given price point
You'd have to take History of GPUs - Antiquity second semester to find a time when this was debatably true
>even when AMD has a substantially better product at a given price point
You'd have to take History of GPUs - Antiquity second semester to find a time when this was debatably true
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:07:36 No.103960663
Is there anything uglier than air coolers with shrouds or displays?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:10:34 No.103960696
>>103960663
AIOs of any kind
AIOs of any kind
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:11:38 No.103960702
>>103959266
Megumin is going to blow the pc up
Megumin is going to blow the pc up
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:16:03 No.103960749
It's finished, it isn't much to look at but its mine.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:16:24 No.103960754
i should be getting my $420 7800XT this week
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:18:58 No.103960779
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:24:34 No.103960840
Any particular OEM I should prioritise for AMD (7900xtx)? Out of pic related, which one should I pick?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:26:13 No.103960857
5080 is the first ever 80 series card to be worse than previous gen flagship, woat
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:26:51 No.103960865
>>103960840
Get the hellhound. Also wtf is that core clock on the XFX Magnetic?
Get the hellhound. Also wtf is that core clock on the XFX Magnetic?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:27:16 No.103960870
>>103960857
And people will still buy it lmao
And people will still buy it lmao
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:27:51 No.103960876
>>103960749
anime figure?
anime figure?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:29:42 No.103960898
What GPU should I get for 4k ray tracing 120 FPS?
Budget doesn't matter, I can afford to buy expensive GPU if it will hold for the next 5 years
Budget doesn't matter, I can afford to buy expensive GPU if it will hold for the next 5 years
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:29:50 No.103960901
>>103960870
People love getting reamed by nvidia
People love getting reamed by nvidia
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:32:33 No.103960924
>>103960865
I bet that's just amazon's details entered being mangled garbage
Also, I'm not ordering right now so prices might still change in the future, any thoughts on XTX, Asrock and Sapphire in case they get cheap? (For example, there was a £750 asrock a couple months ago that I'm beating myself up over not grabbing.)
I bet that's just amazon's details entered being mangled garbage
Also, I'm not ordering right now so prices might still change in the future, any thoughts on XTX, Asrock and Sapphire in case they get cheap? (For example, there was a £750 asrock a couple months ago that I'm beating myself up over not grabbing.)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:32:41 No.103960925
>>103960898
Definitely not a 5080
Definitely not a 5080
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:33:06 No.103960927
>>103960898
5090, why even bother asking if budget is not an issue? Get the best
5090, why even bother asking if budget is not an issue? Get the best
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:33:12 No.103960929
>>103960840
Hellhound is fine, the others don't justify the premium.
Hellhound is fine, the others don't justify the premium.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:35:00 No.103960948
>>103960924
It's not AMD but i have an Asrock b580 which working perfectly fine. Any of the AMD exclusive AIBs are pretty good; XFX, PowerColor and Sapphire with Sapphire usually considered as being the cream of the crop.
Just stay away from MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc when it comes to AMD cards and you'll be fine.
It's not AMD but i have an Asrock b580 which working perfectly fine. Any of the AMD exclusive AIBs are pretty good; XFX, PowerColor and Sapphire with Sapphire usually considered as being the cream of the crop.
Just stay away from MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc when it comes to AMD cards and you'll be fine.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:36:16 No.103960956
>>103960927
What about AMD cards? I see many anons posting "nvidia bad"
What about AMD cards? I see many anons posting "nvidia bad"
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:36:18 No.103960957
>>103960876
I have a separate display case for those.
I have a separate display case for those.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:38:08 No.103960976
>>103960948
Ok perfect, great to know. Cheers anon.
Now I'm eyeing https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156636201854 now, but I've never bought a GPU from ebay before and I'm not sure if I should risk it for a card this expensive
Ok perfect, great to know. Cheers anon.
Now I'm eyeing https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15663620
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:45:37 No.103961042
Do motherboards affect sound? On my old motherboard I usually kept my speakers at around 8, I replaced it and now my speakers have to be at like 20 for the same volume. I double checked to make sure nothing else changed or that the volume wasn't lowered elsewhere.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:46:36 No.103961051
>>103961042
sure
sure
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:47:15 No.103961055
i wish i bought the bae case
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:47:16 No.103961057
>>103961042
Yes, different boards may have different soundchips, the best way to not have to deal with that is buying a dac+amp if you care.
Yes, different boards may have different soundchips, the best way to not have to deal with that is buying a dac+amp if you care.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:47:54 No.103961061
>>103960840
anything from powercolor and Sapphire, iirc another anon explained to me is location and Customer Service for both are great but I believe Sapphire is overseas and will take a while to get back to you
anything from powercolor and Sapphire, iirc another anon explained to me is location and Customer Service for both are great but I believe Sapphire is overseas and will take a while to get back to you
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:47:55 No.103961062
Looks like AIB supplies are highly constrained at launch, I'm going to guess that SI are going to get the vast majority of nvidia cards since they are banking on people with 20 or 30 series cards taking the plunge to upgrade
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:49:11 No.103961075
>>103961055
are vtuber shills reselling it for crazy amounts? I thought about doing that with the Vshojo ones but I was strapped for cash at the time. weebs are easy to upsell on that shit
are vtuber shills reselling it for crazy amounts? I thought about doing that with the Vshojo ones but I was strapped for cash at the time. weebs are easy to upsell on that shit
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:52:32 No.103961104
>>103960956
Both are bad but only one company charges $2k to be bad, and the paypigs will defend this.
Both are bad but only one company charges $2k to be bad, and the paypigs will defend this.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:52:34 No.103961105
>>103960976
Not that anon but…
Cex has a Sapphire for 810, or a Giabyte for 760. 5 year warranty so I’d be tempted to go with that instead of a private ebay sale.
Not that anon but…
Cex has a Sapphire for 810, or a Giabyte for 760. 5 year warranty so I’d be tempted to go with that instead of a private ebay sale.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:53:25 No.103961114
>>103961105
who's cex
who's cex
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:55:50 No.103961131
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Temnelc/saved/BCtKcf
I have never built nor had an actual Gaming Desktop before and I'm tired of using my shitty Laptop.
Is this a good part list, need I change anything? I wouldn't mind going the extra mile for a 3080 or even 3080 Super but I'm being told the burning problem still is a thing. I can spare up to 3200€, I'm located in France
I have never built nor had an actual Gaming Desktop before and I'm tired of using my shitty Laptop.
Is this a good part list, need I change anything? I wouldn't mind going the extra mile for a 3080 or even 3080 Super but I'm being told the burning problem still is a thing. I can spare up to 3200€, I'm located in France
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:56:54 No.103961140
>>103961114
You seem to be a fellow Britbong so I’m surprised you’ve never heard of CEX.
https://uk.webuy.com/search?stext=7900+xtx&availability=In+Stock+Online
You seem to be a fellow Britbong so I’m surprised you’ve never heard of CEX.
https://uk.webuy.com/search?stext=7
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:03:00 No.103961185
>>103960976
That reference model will run loud and hot, even with the functional vapor chamber.
That reference model will run loud and hot, even with the functional vapor chamber.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:03:29 No.103961190
>>103959673
Sure it looks better on 4k but is it playable for multiplayer games where the frames matter most
Sure it looks better on 4k but is it playable for multiplayer games where the frames matter most
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:06:04 No.103961221
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:12:16 No.103961266
>>103961140
I am a britbong but please understand the last time I bought computer parts was in 2017. I'm upgrading from a GTX1070
>>103961185
I thought sapphire was, by definition, an aftermarket and therefore not reference? What makes that card reference
I am a britbong but please understand the last time I bought computer parts was in 2017. I'm upgrading from a GTX1070
>>103961185
I thought sapphire was, by definition, an aftermarket and therefore not reference? What makes that card reference
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:15:01 No.103961295
>>103960418
Is resorting to DSC automatic, or can I just tell my monitor to shut up and suck it up?
Is resorting to DSC automatic, or can I just tell my monitor to shut up and suck it up?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:16:07 No.103961307
>>103961266
The design is the base MSRP reference card. It was designed by AMD not Sapphire.
AMD allowed partners like Sapphire and Power Color to reproduce AMD's reference design for the card, which runs hot and loud (fucking 39 dBA).
The design is the base MSRP reference card. It was designed by AMD not Sapphire.
AMD allowed partners like Sapphire and Power Color to reproduce AMD's reference design for the card, which runs hot and loud (fucking 39 dBA).
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:17:05 No.103961319
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:17:16 No.103961321
Hey guys, I want to take my PC to a repair shop, the problem is nothing related to software but I don't want them to see my data, what can I do? and yes and I a complete ignorant opening PCs.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:20:10 No.103961343
>>103961307
Oh damn, that makes sense. So Sapphire's "pulse" is just the reference? Gay
Oh damn, that makes sense. So Sapphire's "pulse" is just the reference? Gay
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:21:40 No.103961358
>>103961104
You mean equally bad? As in both offer performance I want?
You mean equally bad? As in both offer performance I want?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:23:10 No.103961376
>>103961321
Why does it need to be repaired
Why does it need to be repaired
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:24:14 No.103961387
>>103961343
I misread the product, Sapphire Pulse is slightly better than AMD reference, but it's in the same tier of base MSRP cooler design.
Don't expect significantly better/quieter cooling. The Hellhound is going to have the better cooler.
I misread the product, Sapphire Pulse is slightly better than AMD reference, but it's in the same tier of base MSRP cooler design.
Don't expect significantly better/quieter cooling. The Hellhound is going to have the better cooler.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:24:55 No.103961394
>>103961387
Right, got it.
Right, got it.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:26:46 No.103961414
>>103961321
>but I don't want them to see my data
Take your storage off and install an OS on a clean SSD/HDD. Also, change the RAM sticks.
>but I don't want them to see my data
Take your storage off and install an OS on a clean SSD/HDD. Also, change the RAM sticks.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:31:38 No.103961454
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:32:18 No.103961462
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:36:37 No.103961487
>>103960857
XX90 is what XX80 once was
>>103960956
>many
It's a few vocal AMDrones
It's possible that the RDNA4 (the gen Radeon is about to launch) could be a consideration, provided two things occur:
>fsr4 is at least as good as dlss2
>pricing is lower than geforce on an rt basis
There's too much wrong with Radeon (drivers, game support, etc) to buy it if it's just an approximate raster match
>>103961131
>first timer
Do not buy Radeon, and do not buy last gen parts. Next gen cards are launching beginning in a week an half
>>103961190
Multiplayer games don't generally don't need a lot of GPU horsepower. I've tested DLSS in R6:Siege and it was basically a toss up in terms of image quality but faster as I recall. Regardless, if you're getting a 4K monitor, you want to make sure that you can run whatever games you play at that res. E.g., PUBG does not have DLSS, so you're running either at native, using the internal resolution scaler to lower resolution, or just flat out choosing a lower display resolution if you need more performance. But even with a 4070 you're getting 200 FPS at 4K competitive settings
XX90 is what XX80 once was
>>103960956
>many
It's a few vocal AMDrones
It's possible that the RDNA4 (the gen Radeon is about to launch) could be a consideration, provided two things occur:
>fsr4 is at least as good as dlss2
>pricing is lower than geforce on an rt basis
There's too much wrong with Radeon (drivers, game support, etc) to buy it if it's just an approximate raster match
>>103961131
>first timer
Do not buy Radeon, and do not buy last gen parts. Next gen cards are launching beginning in a week an half
>>103961190
Multiplayer games don't generally don't need a lot of GPU horsepower. I've tested DLSS in R6:Siege and it was basically a toss up in terms of image quality but faster as I recall. Regardless, if you're getting a 4K monitor, you want to make sure that you can run whatever games you play at that res. E.g., PUBG does not have DLSS, so you're running either at native, using the internal resolution scaler to lower resolution, or just flat out choosing a lower display resolution if you need more performance. But even with a 4070 you're getting 200 FPS at 4K competitive settings
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:38:20 No.103961498
>>103961487
I feel like FSR4 won't even be as good as the first release of XeSS.
I feel like FSR4 won't even be as good as the first release of XeSS.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:40:55 No.103961517
>>103961487
>4K competitive settings
By competitive, you mean shitty low polygon settings, on a 4k monitor. 4k is just not there 1440p is still king
>4K competitive settings
By competitive, you mean shitty low polygon settings, on a 4k monitor. 4k is just not there 1440p is still king
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:42:09 No.103961525
>>103961498
If is not, Nvidia shills its brain-dead intel dinguses
If is not, Nvidia shills its brain-dead intel dinguses
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:44:16 No.103961539
From looking up online, I am getting a bunch of results of people saying they have issues with the Samsung 990 Pro, while the 980 is a lot more stable. Can anyone confirm?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:44:21 No.103961542
mexican poorfag here, soon gonna quit my job and switch to another one that pays a little bit more and save up to buy my first desktop computer. i plan to build a hackintosh since that's what my t480 has and yeah wanna also have a desktop experience.
i'm planning on starting simple and just using the APU until i save up enough for a RX580 (or maybe save up and buy a Radeon VII), and maybe upgrade the CPU later on but maybe the 5700 will hold on.
>inb4 why AM4
its cheap, that's all. i plan on used, although i got all the pricing from Amazon Mexico, and since people are upgrading to AM5 boards that's basically just more cheap parts that i'm happy to take off their hands.
>inb4 u won't get 1440p gaming
i don't really do gaming in the first place as evidenced from the use of macos since i'll be using the computer for work and college, the planned Vii is just there to have the bragging rights of having the fastest mac gpu and also since i work on GIS stuff.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wPKVBq
i'm planning on starting simple and just using the APU until i save up enough for a RX580 (or maybe save up and buy a Radeon VII), and maybe upgrade the CPU later on but maybe the 5700 will hold on.
>inb4 why AM4
its cheap, that's all. i plan on used, although i got all the pricing from Amazon Mexico, and since people are upgrading to AM5 boards that's basically just more cheap parts that i'm happy to take off their hands.
>inb4 u won't get 1440p gaming
i don't really do gaming in the first place as evidenced from the use of macos since i'll be using the computer for work and college, the planned Vii is just there to have the bragging rights of having the fastest mac gpu and also since i work on GIS stuff.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wPKVB
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:46:33 No.103961561
>>103961487
I am immune to propaganda
I am immune to propaganda
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:49:18 No.103961593
>>103961561
You know that's actually the first step to falling for propaganda.
You know that's actually the first step to falling for propaganda.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:50:41 No.103961606
>>103961593
How so?
How so?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:51:50 No.103961614
>>103961358
Equally bad as in: stop playing word games you fucking shill fag
Equally bad as in: stop playing word games you fucking shill fag
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:53:23 No.103961635
>>103961606
One must always be vigilant or fall prey.
One must always be vigilant or fall prey.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:55:49 No.103961654
>>103961517
It's mostly just low(er) shadows, foliage, etc.
You want as little visual clutter as possible, but you still want players to cast shadows when they're fairly close to you. Polycount won't be degraded, although it's not like PUBG or really any popular multiplayer game has high polycount models. You don't buy 4K primarily for multiplayer
>>103961561
Anon, you sound susceptible
>>103960898
Depends on what tier of RT you want (are you talking about full RT at path tracing?). Generally if you're into RT you buy the best you can get, or at the least look at the RT game(s) you want to play and see what graphics card you need. Futureproofing in general is retarded: you never know what's coming. Could be that in two years neural shading is the big thing or there's some crazy DLSS advance that's exclusive to an upcoming gen. I think all you can really expect (if you buy at the beginning of a gen) is four years
>>103960754
I'm sorry
It's mostly just low(er) shadows, foliage, etc.
You want as little visual clutter as possible, but you still want players to cast shadows when they're fairly close to you. Polycount won't be degraded, although it's not like PUBG or really any popular multiplayer game has high polycount models. You don't buy 4K primarily for multiplayer
>>103961561
Anon, you sound susceptible
>>103960898
Depends on what tier of RT you want (are you talking about full RT at path tracing?). Generally if you're into RT you buy the best you can get, or at the least look at the RT game(s) you want to play and see what graphics card you need. Futureproofing in general is retarded: you never know what's coming. Could be that in two years neural shading is the big thing or there's some crazy DLSS advance that's exclusive to an upcoming gen. I think all you can really expect (if you buy at the beginning of a gen) is four years
>>103960754
I'm sorry
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:57:26 No.103961665
>>103959277
two more thousand dollars
two more thousand dollars
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:00:01 No.103961681
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:00:24 No.103961684
>>103961376
>>103961414
>>103961462
It's silly but I'm worried because the PC is only 7 months old.
About two months ago the blue power LED that indicates that the PC is on in the case, began to dim each time, until it reached a point that does not turn on (PC still works fine).
I did not pay much attention to it, but a few weeks later, I wanted to check the RGB lights of the fans, since I always have them off and I realized that they do not work, no matter how much I hold or press the case button, the lights do not work.
I opened the PC, but I didn't see any cable moved or anything, so I have no idea what it could be and I'm worried that it could be something more serious in the future.
>>103961414
>>103961462
It's silly but I'm worried because the PC is only 7 months old.
About two months ago the blue power LED that indicates that the PC is on in the case, began to dim each time, until it reached a point that does not turn on (PC still works fine).
I did not pay much attention to it, but a few weeks later, I wanted to check the RGB lights of the fans, since I always have them off and I realized that they do not work, no matter how much I hold or press the case button, the lights do not work.
I opened the PC, but I didn't see any cable moved or anything, so I have no idea what it could be and I'm worried that it could be something more serious in the future.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:04:06 No.103961731
>>103959448
For 3000 dreitausend THREE THOUSAND (sic!) €uros I expect nothing less of a gfx card than making full use of the maximum possible refresh rate of my display. If a card suck that much it should be priced much lower.
For 3000 dreitausend THREE THOUSAND (sic!) €uros I expect nothing less of a gfx card than making full use of the maximum possible refresh rate of my display. If a card suck that much it should be priced much lower.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:05:32 No.103961744
>>103961055
>>103961075
I hate vTrooners
Just show your fucking faces, the leaks prove you're all fucking attractive anyway.
>>103961075
I hate vTrooners
Just show your fucking faces, the leaks prove you're all fucking attractive anyway.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:08:31 No.103961774
>>103959417
Certain entry into the Hall of Fame of Running Jokes.
Certain entry into the Hall of Fame of Running Jokes.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:14:31 No.103961825
>>103959442
Be praised you Gods, who bestowed a 4090 on me!
>>103959590
> 12GB
It's a 1080p card. All 1440p cards have 16GB.
Be praised you Gods, who bestowed a 4090 on me!
>>103959590
> 12GB
It's a 1080p card. All 1440p cards have 16GB.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:15:35 No.103961832
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:21:37 No.103961886
>>103961321
>>103961684
Open your case and identify your storage drive (or drives).
If it looks like one of the first three, it should be fairly easy to unplug, unscrew, and remove it.
If it's the last type (M.2), it might be slightly trickier to remove since you aren't used to working with PCs. Sometimes it's necessary to remove and re-insert other components to get to it. Google for a guide on how to remove M.2 drives.
If you can't find the drive, it might be an M.2 drive hidden underneath a metal heatsink (or possibly on the back of your motherboard, in which case you should be able to get to it by opening the other side of your case).
Let the repair shop know that the PC has no drives. Unless they're completely useless, they should be able to handle that without issue by using of their own.
>>103961684
Open your case and identify your storage drive (or drives).
If it looks like one of the first three, it should be fairly easy to unplug, unscrew, and remove it.
If it's the last type (M.2), it might be slightly trickier to remove since you aren't used to working with PCs. Sometimes it's necessary to remove and re-insert other components to get to it. Google for a guide on how to remove M.2 drives.
If you can't find the drive, it might be an M.2 drive hidden underneath a metal heatsink (or possibly on the back of your motherboard, in which case you should be able to get to it by opening the other side of your case).
Let the repair shop know that the PC has no drives. Unless they're completely useless, they should be able to handle that without issue by using of their own.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:21:54 No.103961887
>>103961731
good luck with that shit because it will never happen
if you are old enough to remember the days when benchmarkers used to benchmark sub 1080p resolutions then you should know that people will never stop raising the bar on graphics
if you're not that old then you'll learn soon enough
good luck with that shit because it will never happen
if you are old enough to remember the days when benchmarkers used to benchmark sub 1080p resolutions then you should know that people will never stop raising the bar on graphics
if you're not that old then you'll learn soon enough
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:22:32 No.103961893
>>103961614
Shill fag? I just want GPU that can run 120 Hz at 4k and not sure what to get
Is 7900xtx good for this?
Shill fag? I just want GPU that can run 120 Hz at 4k and not sure what to get
Is 7900xtx good for this?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:22:44 No.103961899
>Why is /pcbg/ such a magnet for trannys? It's like the stereotype of mentally ill social outcasts with a high % of disposable income and an undying need to be seen and heard by normal society is proven time and again here.
Will 7900(xt/xtx)s continue to be made/sold after the new cards release? Will their price drop at all?
Will 7900(xt/xtx)s continue to be made/sold after the new cards release? Will their price drop at all?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:24:40 No.103961923
>>103961899
7900xt price already dropped
7900xt price already dropped
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:25:36 No.103961934
>>103961923
Will it drop again though when the new cards release?
Will it drop again though when the new cards release?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:26:49 No.103961946
>>103961893
worse than the 5090 will be
worse than the 5090 will be
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:27:08 No.103961951
>>103961934
Depends on how 9070xt performs
Depends on how 9070xt performs
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:30:45 No.103961977
there are no games worth buying a new GPU for
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:31:10 No.103961981
>>103961951
True I guess. Will China stop making them and switch to the new cards? Or again is that dependant on how good new cards are?
True I guess. Will China stop making them and switch to the new cards? Or again is that dependant on how good new cards are?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:33:26 No.103962000
>>103961977
I just need a card for my new B650M/7600 rig I built. I tried to play factorio on it using just the iGPU but it maxed the CPU and turned the box into a wind tunnel of deafening noise.
I just need a card for my new B650M/7600 rig I built. I tried to play factorio on it using just the iGPU but it maxed the CPU and turned the box into a wind tunnel of deafening noise.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:36:25 No.103962030
Should I just buy a 4080s?
I'm in Australia and I don't think the 5080 is gonna come close to its current price, the 5070ti will be similar if not more expensive here as well
I'm in Australia and I don't think the 5080 is gonna come close to its current price, the 5070ti will be similar if not more expensive here as well
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:36:30 No.103962031
>>103961977
True but I'm trying to build for an old and poorly optimized slavjank game.
True but I'm trying to build for an old and poorly optimized slavjank game.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:37:19 No.103962040
>>103962031
Stalker 2 isn't that old bro
Stalker 2 isn't that old bro
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:38:12 No.103962042
>>103962040
I only like the original stalker, I meant escape from tarkov
I only like the original stalker, I meant escape from tarkov
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:39:18 No.103962052
>it's another episode of X870E Nova not being in stock.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:41:05 No.103962069
>>103961977
Yeah but there are LLMs and checkpoints worth the 5090 exclusively
Yeah but there are LLMs and checkpoints worth the 5090 exclusively
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:42:19 No.103962077
>>103961887
>we are raising the bar on graphics by introducing worse looking AI frames and upscaling
okay
>we are raising the bar on graphics by introducing worse looking AI frames and upscaling
okay
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:45:28 No.103962100
To think there will come a time where affordable 512GB VRAM will exist and we will look at this current period and loathe how poor and limited we all were...
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:46:55 No.103962112
>>103962030
get a 9070XT
get a 9070XT
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:47:11 No.103962116
>>103962100
all of its gonna be used to support 144p upscaling
all of its gonna be used to support 144p upscaling
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:47:47 No.103962126
>>103961977
If you mean there's no need to buy a 50x0 instead of keeping an eye on ebay and buying e.g. a 2080ti or waiting for 3080 prices to fall, then I 100% agree.
If you mean something more pessimistic than that, like "all games released after 2005 are shit", then no. I do play and like older games but I also like new ones with great graphics and I want to run them well.
If you mean there's no need to buy a 50x0 instead of keeping an eye on ebay and buying e.g. a 2080ti or waiting for 3080 prices to fall, then I 100% agree.
If you mean something more pessimistic than that, like "all games released after 2005 are shit", then no. I do play and like older games but I also like new ones with great graphics and I want to run them well.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:47:58 No.103962128
>>103962069
No there aren't 5090 only has 32GB VRAM, while there have been 48GB VRAM prosumer cards for years, dating back to RTX A6000 from Ampere gen
No there aren't 5090 only has 32GB VRAM, while there have been 48GB VRAM prosumer cards for years, dating back to RTX A6000 from Ampere gen
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:50:59 No.103962163
>>103962100
we'll enter a mad max/kenshiro era before that happens
we'll enter a mad max/kenshiro era before that happens
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:52:54 No.103962190
>>103961946
5090 is only choice or something? I keep reading posts about nvidia being bad, I don't understand
5090 is only choice or something? I keep reading posts about nvidia being bad, I don't understand
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:54:08 No.103962208
>>103962052
Plenty in stock here. Poormutts can't afford them anyway.
Plenty in stock here. Poormutts can't afford them anyway.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:54:51 No.103962221
>>103962100
only chinese people will ever get to enjoy this
only chinese people will ever get to enjoy this
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:55:43 No.103962233
>>103962190
No, you can always decide to just keep your 4090 a little longer.
You do have a 4090, don't you?
No, you can always decide to just keep your 4090 a little longer.
You do have a 4090, don't you?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:55:45 No.103962234
>buy 4k monitor
>never get to experience 4k because you have to upscale to get 60fps
why do people do this
>never get to experience 4k because you have to upscale to get 60fps
why do people do this
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:00:57 No.103962289
>>103962234
I get 4K in League of Legends sis, no upscaling
I get 4K in League of Legends sis, no upscaling
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:03:24 No.103962315
>>103962234
You can play old games at 4k easily
You can play old games at 4k easily
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:03:49 No.103962320
>>103962100
There was a time when my ELSA Erazor II Riva TNT had 16MB of VRAM and ran Deus Ex smoothly.
That's 1,536 times less VRAM than my current 4090 has. Your 512GB would be a relatively low increase.
There was a time when my ELSA Erazor II Riva TNT had 16MB of VRAM and ran Deus Ex smoothly.
That's 1,536 times less VRAM than my current 4090 has. Your 512GB would be a relatively low increase.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:03:57 No.103962324
>>103962315
they dont have 4k textures though
they dont have 4k textures though
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:04:59 No.103962333
>>103962234
4K video is a thing., and older games before the RT/UE5 plague happened run fine at 4K. It's really Nvidia & Epic Games that are sucking all of the potential out of higher resolution panels.
4K video is a thing., and older games before the RT/UE5 plague happened run fine at 4K. It's really Nvidia & Epic Games that are sucking all of the potential out of higher resolution panels.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:07:05 No.103962351
>>103960152
HL Alyx doesn't have RT and looks better than 90% of these games. And it runs great too
HL Alyx doesn't have RT and looks better than 90% of these games. And it runs great too
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:09:20 No.103962368
>>103962351
This looks like R6S in terms of fidelity, not exactly a high bar
This looks like R6S in terms of fidelity, not exactly a high bar
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:11:45 No.103962391
>>103962234
You can play lots of games at native 4K at solid framerates. If you do need to drop the resolution a bit or use upscaling, it's no big deal. 4K is also great for video and for desktop use.
Also, it's been the standard res for TVs for years and is becoming the standard in monitors now too. Soon enough, basically any non-shit-tier monitor will be 4K. It's not really a crazy extravagant purchase anymore. It's just the new 1440p.
You can play lots of games at native 4K at solid framerates. If you do need to drop the resolution a bit or use upscaling, it's no big deal. 4K is also great for video and for desktop use.
Also, it's been the standard res for TVs for years and is becoming the standard in monitors now too. Soon enough, basically any non-shit-tier monitor will be 4K. It's not really a crazy extravagant purchase anymore. It's just the new 1440p.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:11:54 No.103962393
GPU prices if you're america are going up at least 10% tomorrow lol
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:15:34 No.103962418
>>103962391
>drop visuals """"a bit""""
again old games dont have 4k textures so there no visual improvement in using a 4k monitor
>drop visuals """"a bit""""
again old games dont have 4k textures so there no visual improvement in using a 4k monitor
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:15:38 No.103962419
>>103962368
Looks better than 90% of RT slop
Looks better than 90% of RT slop
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:19:11 No.103962447
>>103962393
that means 20% for the rest of the world
that means 20% for the rest of the world
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:19:25 No.103962450
>>103962333
>nvidia makes the fastest cards
>rt is mostly optional, and when it's not it's lite
>and actually faster than software rt because its hw accelerated
>but it's nvidia's fault
Higher fidelity is at the point of diminishing returns >>103956550 (pic related). New paradigms must be used
The problem with Unreal is that's it's an engine for movies as well. And I'm not talking about moviegames
>>103962418
Wrong. Ever heard of super sampling anti ailiasing? It's debatable as to whether you can get the average actually old game running at 4K because the devs never even consider the possibility of such an insane number of pixels, but if you hang around here long enough, you'll see 8K screenshots even of games like Alien isolation
>>103962351
It looked good for its time, nothing close to modern non-VR games. I though Lone Echo looked better
>nvidia makes the fastest cards
>rt is mostly optional, and when it's not it's lite
>and actually faster than software rt because its hw accelerated
>but it's nvidia's fault
Higher fidelity is at the point of diminishing returns >>103956550 (pic related). New paradigms must be used
The problem with Unreal is that's it's an engine for movies as well. And I'm not talking about moviegames
>>103962418
Wrong. Ever heard of super sampling anti ailiasing? It's debatable as to whether you can get the average actually old game running at 4K because the devs never even consider the possibility of such an insane number of pixels, but if you hang around here long enough, you'll see 8K screenshots even of games like Alien isolation
>>103962351
It looked good for its time, nothing close to modern non-VR games. I though Lone Echo looked better
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:24:30 No.103962494
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:24:50 No.103962495
>>103959472
>>103959559
>>103959673
>>103959725
Nothing fixes the layer of mud that permeates the screen in motion when using any upscalers or DLAA, nice try GeForce bro
>>103959559
>>103959673
>>103959725
Nothing fixes the layer of mud that permeates the screen in motion when using any upscalers or DLAA, nice try GeForce bro
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:27:59 No.103962524
>>103962495
Even lower res DLSS is better than or equivalent to """""native"""" 2/3s of the time
>inb4 taa deflection
Better than actual native.
Even lower res DLSS is better than or equivalent to """""native"""" 2/3s of the time
>inb4 taa deflection
Better than actual native.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:29:37 No.103962541
>>103962233
No, that's why I'm asking for gpu recommendation
No, that's why I'm asking for gpu recommendation
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:29:42 No.103962544
>>103962077
ok since you're retarded I'll spell it out for you:
when native 4k stops being a challenge people will step up to 5k
when raytacing with 1 light bounce stops being a challenge devs will add 2 bounces
it's that simple
you don't see people benchmarking at 1024x768 anymore do you? if you had your eyes open for the last 2 decades you would know this ride will never end
ok since you're retarded I'll spell it out for you:
when native 4k stops being a challenge people will step up to 5k
when raytacing with 1 light bounce stops being a challenge devs will add 2 bounces
it's that simple
you don't see people benchmarking at 1024x768 anymore do you? if you had your eyes open for the last 2 decades you would know this ride will never end
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:32:42 No.103962563
>>103962544
people do benchmark at 1024x768 its called upscalling
people do benchmark at 1024x768 its called upscalling
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:37:58 No.103962604
>>103962524
This is all only in regards to stills, camera motion completely obliterates any reconstruction, period. Nice for your silly little screenshots, not something that's particularly useful for good gameplay.
This is all only in regards to stills, camera motion completely obliterates any reconstruction, period. Nice for your silly little screenshots, not something that's particularly useful for good gameplay.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:43:26 No.103962648
>>103962604
You can watch the AMDumboxed video and you'll see it's all about motion, just like >>103959472
Almost always better to take whatever resolution you can run and turn it into a higher faux resolution with DLSS
You can watch the AMDumboxed video and you'll see it's all about motion, just like >>103959472
Almost always better to take whatever resolution you can run and turn it into a higher faux resolution with DLSS
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:49:26 No.103962691
>>103962128
A 5090 is still cheaper than a used A6000 or even an A40/L40 if you could grab those. You could buy 3 for the price of one.
A 5090 is still cheaper than a used A6000 or even an A40/L40 if you could grab those. You could buy 3 for the price of one.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:49:27 No.103962692
>>103959300
Kek but seriously why does everyone use that shit for testing, does anyone actually enjoy playing that ugly shit game
Kek but seriously why does everyone use that shit for testing, does anyone actually enjoy playing that ugly shit game
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:49:56 No.103962696
>>103962324
Mario 64 rendered at 4k looks better than 240p or what ever it was on the 64 even when using the same ROM or textures as the original cartridge .
Mario 64 rendered at 4k looks better than 240p or what ever it was on the 64 even when using the same ROM or textures as the original cartridge .
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:51:55 No.103962708
>>103962692
It's the new crysis.
It's the new crysis.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:52:07 No.103962709
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:52:31 No.103962713
>>103962692
It's actually a really fun game, and the issues at launch were severely overstated. It's also one of the few games with pathtracing.
It's actually a really fun game, and the issues at launch were severely overstated. It's also one of the few games with pathtracing.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:52:54 No.103962719
>>103962708
crysis was optimized
crysis was optimized
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:56:59 No.103962756
>>103962719
Lol. No it was not.
Lol. No it was not.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:57:24 No.103962763
>>103962719
Cry engine wasn't acting like an agent of video card marketers to this degree
Cry engine wasn't acting like an agent of video card marketers to this degree
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:58:03 No.103962773
>>103962719
Don't let the AMDrones see you write that
Radeon's poor tessellation performance was Nvidia's fault, you see
Don't let the AMDrones see you write that
Radeon's poor tessellation performance was Nvidia's fault, you see
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:59:52 No.103962785
>>103962719
Literally from yesterday
Literally from yesterday
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:03:23 No.103962809
>>103959266
AMD FUCKED UP
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-bumpy-launch-reportedly-linked-to-price-pressure-from-nvidia
AMD FUCKED UP
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rad
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:05:47 No.103962839
>Cyberpunk is 4 years old
>still can't be run at today's peak desired settings (max, path tracing, 4k native, 144fps)
How far were GPUs from running Crysis at 1080p, 8xMSAA, max settings. 60fps by 2011?
>still can't be run at today's peak desired settings (max, path tracing, 4k native, 144fps)
How far were GPUs from running Crysis at 1080p, 8xMSAA, max settings. 60fps by 2011?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:09:14 No.103962875
>>103962839
can we just kill people who claim path tracing and native 4k are relevant to video games
can we just kill people who claim path tracing and native 4k are relevant to video games
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:12:38 No.103962910
>>103962809
It's been a while. It's their biggest fuckup since vega overhyping
It's been a while. It's their biggest fuckup since vega overhyping
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:13:52 No.103962923
>>103962839
4090 maxed it out at RT ultra just fine until they added an even higher setting (PT)
Seems like a Jewish trick to me desu
4090 maxed it out at RT ultra just fine until they added an even higher setting (PT)
Seems like a Jewish trick to me desu
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:15:53 No.103962938
>>103962809
Why is it that AyyMDfags, regardless of where you find them, are always so delusional and high on copium?
Why is it that AyyMDfags, regardless of where you find them, are always so delusional and high on copium?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:17:52 No.103962960
>>103962785
future settings != unoptimized
future settings != unoptimized
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:19:08 No.103962970
I just want DLAA technology on every game
Couldnt care less for Goytracing
Couldnt care less for Goytracing
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:21:10 No.103962988
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:23:28 No.103963011
>>103962970
Both sides look like shit though. I actually thought DLAA was kinda nice, now I am not sure.
Both sides look like shit though. I actually thought DLAA was kinda nice, now I am not sure.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:23:37 No.103963013
>>103962988
You can set rendering scale to 200% and get rid of all jaggies and artifacts
You can set rendering scale to 200% and get rid of all jaggies and artifacts
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:25:17 No.103963029
>>103962785
The thing is Crysis maxxed truly looked better than anything else released at the time or years after it could have hoped to realize. CP2077 even with PT isn't that much better than any open world AAA title released since the PS4 came out.
The thing is Crysis maxxed truly looked better than anything else released at the time or years after it could have hoped to realize. CP2077 even with PT isn't that much better than any open world AAA title released since the PS4 came out.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:37:12 No.103963115
>>103963011
Are you telling me not to believe my eyes?
Are you telling me not to believe my eyes?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:39:34 No.103963130
>>103963115
I'm telling you to get them checked
I'm telling you to get them checked
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:41:01 No.103963139
>>103963130
I just got them checked and right still looks better. Now what?
I just got them checked and right still looks better. Now what?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:43:26 No.103963165
>>103963139
I don't trust you, it's realistically impossible to have gone to an ophthalmologist and submitted yourself to an exam in such a short time
I don't trust you, it's realistically impossible to have gone to an ophthalmologist and submitted yourself to an exam in such a short time
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:47:07 No.103963199
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:50:43 No.103963219
>>103963165
I did it online.
I did it online.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:58:18 No.103963278
>>103962923
What's wrong with that. It's not like they put a gun to your head and make you play on the highest settings.
What's wrong with that. It's not like they put a gun to your head and make you play on the highest settings.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:59:42 No.103963290
Crysis Warhead still looks better than Cyberpunk 2077
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:01:20 No.103963308
gigabyte x870e aorus elite wifi7 or Asrock nova wifi7
Also what's the difference between memory correction and not having this
Also what's the difference between memory correction and not having this
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:03:13 No.103963323
so is the 50 series finally going to lead to mass nvidiaclitty suicides?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:04:08 No.103963330
>>103963323
buy an ad
buy an ad
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:05:20 No.103963344
>>103963330
no channel name or link = not an ad, retard
no channel name or link = not an ad, retard
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:07:07 No.103963357
>>103963344
buy an ad so your retardedness is on display for everyone
buy an ad so your retardedness is on display for everyone
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:07:45 No.103963361
>>103963344
buy an ad
buy an ad
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:07:56 No.103963362
>>103963357
ill buy an ad for the 9070xt when it comes out and mogs nvidiacels
ill buy an ad for the 9070xt when it comes out and mogs nvidiacels
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:09:48 No.103963383
https://youtu.be/ILulV_eW4dY?t=389
Im going to assume that Paul has some real insider knowledge here. He's saying nvidia really does keep better binned chips for themselves. Shiet now I really want an FE card
Im going to assume that Paul has some real insider knowledge here. He's saying nvidia really does keep better binned chips for themselves. Shiet now I really want an FE card
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:18:05 No.103963451
Is it possible to get good performance from a gpu for 8+ years now?
My current one is still going well but the latest games are forcing raytracing and I can't even launch them, going from such a long cycle to a short one would feel bad
My current one is still going well but the latest games are forcing raytracing and I can't even launch them, going from such a long cycle to a short one would feel bad
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:18:38 No.103963456
I wonder why amd shills appear during india hour
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:19:40 No.103963465
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:25:48 No.103963500
>>103963451
3080 was launched in 2020 and is still pretty strong, 5070 is like 20% better in raw raster perf, it'll feel old when next gen consoles come out but that can be couple years out so yeah
the last couple gen halo products from nvidia are much better than other gpus, so if you want longevity you'd have to buy a 5090
3080 was launched in 2020 and is still pretty strong, 5070 is like 20% better in raw raster perf, it'll feel old when next gen consoles come out but that can be couple years out so yeah
the last couple gen halo products from nvidia are much better than other gpus, so if you want longevity you'd have to buy a 5090
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:27:51 No.103963509
>>103963465
What the absolute fuck exists in India for AMD to invest 400 fucking million dollars there?
What the fuck man, if poos were at least smart like the chinese that'd be something, but they aren't
What the absolute fuck exists in India for AMD to invest 400 fucking million dollars there?
What the fuck man, if poos were at least smart like the chinese that'd be something, but they aren't
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:28:59 No.103963517
>>103963509
they dont need to hire the average vegetarian malnourished baby from the incest ridden countryside
they can pick from the ones that make it out of the uni system
they dont need to hire the average vegetarian malnourished baby from the incest ridden countryside
they can pick from the ones that make it out of the uni system
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:31:04 No.103963528
>>103963500
>the last couple gen halo products from nvidia are much better than other gpus, so if you want longevity you'd have to buy a 5090
Unless they addressed things in an interesting way I wouldn't trust a 4090 and even less a 5090 to last even 5 years before thermal cycling makes the gpu die crack or break connection from the pcb. Larger the die, larger the change in size from heating and cooling, shorter the lifespan of any interconnect underneath it.
Would like to know if they fixed this at some point in the last 10 years but Google is useless. Maybe there's some novel way of connecting the die that moves with thermal changes without stressing as badly.
>the last couple gen halo products from nvidia are much better than other gpus, so if you want longevity you'd have to buy a 5090
Unless they addressed things in an interesting way I wouldn't trust a 4090 and even less a 5090 to last even 5 years before thermal cycling makes the gpu die crack or break connection from the pcb. Larger the die, larger the change in size from heating and cooling, shorter the lifespan of any interconnect underneath it.
Would like to know if they fixed this at some point in the last 10 years but Google is useless. Maybe there's some novel way of connecting the die that moves with thermal changes without stressing as badly.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:33:51 No.103963544
>>103963528
thats random and not really noteworthy issue
larger chips are likely used in commercial servers and would see problems before the relatively small consumer chips
thats random and not really noteworthy issue
larger chips are likely used in commercial servers and would see problems before the relatively small consumer chips
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:34:10 No.103963546
>>103963465
AMD has been redeemed
AMD has been redeemed
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:35:59 No.103963560
>>103959372
Motherboard is so fucking stupid. Get x870 tomahawk or x870 pro rs wifi.
Motherboard is so fucking stupid. Get x870 tomahawk or x870 pro rs wifi.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:37:00 No.103963565
>>103959785
Shintel vs Realtek. Shintel is apparently better, but on loonix, no issues with either?
Shintel vs Realtek. Shintel is apparently better, but on loonix, no issues with either?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:40:36 No.103963587
>5090 will cost >$2000
>no HDMI-CEC support
nvidia are fucking pathetic and worthless
>no HDMI-CEC support
nvidia are fucking pathetic and worthless
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:41:25 No.103963591
>>103963587
retard
retard
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:42:17 No.103963597
>>103963591
faggot nvidia cocksucker, fuck your stupid tv remote nigger
faggot nvidia cocksucker, fuck your stupid tv remote nigger
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:43:10 No.103963606
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:44:03 No.103963610
>>103963465
this explains why there's so many rabid amdfags on the internet yet when you talk to normal people who play games they don't give a shit about gpu wars
this explains why there's so many rabid amdfags on the internet yet when you talk to normal people who play games they don't give a shit about gpu wars
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:45:15 No.103963617
>>103963606
you have no idea what youre talking about nigger
https://www.nakamichi-usa.com/what-is-hdmi-cec
get learned subtard
you have no idea what youre talking about nigger
https://www.nakamichi-usa.com/what-
get learned subtard
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:45:26 No.103963619
>>103963544
Not noteworthy on even the largest cpus as they clock in under 300mm2
But these 700-800mm2 gpu flagship dies? I worry a bit.
Also enterprise shit cuts down on the issie with MCM design and less aggressive thermals.
Not noteworthy on even the largest cpus as they clock in under 300mm2
But these 700-800mm2 gpu flagship dies? I worry a bit.
Also enterprise shit cuts down on the issie with MCM design and less aggressive thermals.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:45:59 No.103963621
>>103963619
Forgot to mention servers don't cycle as much as pc components it's steady load which is much better.
Forgot to mention servers don't cycle as much as pc components it's steady load which is much better.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:46:28 No.103963623
>>103963617
retard (3)
retard (3)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:47:18 No.103963636
>>103963623
i accept your concession fuckface
i accept your concession fuckface
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:51:11 No.103963662
>>103963636
Poo colored hands tapped this on a Samsung android phone.
Poo colored hands tapped this on a Samsung android phone.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:54:34 No.103963690
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:54:45 No.103963692
Q: when will 9950x3d be released
2nd Q: would it be worth it over a 9950x?
2nd Q: would it be worth it over a 9950x?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:56:18 No.103963706
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:57:54 No.103963712
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:58:56 No.103963720
>>103963662
typed from my 4080 and 7800X3D actually nigger
im still mad i cant programmatically turn my tv on with it and have to reach for the remote instead of just using a hotkey to do it. HDMI-CEC SUPPORT WHEN?
if amd cards supported it i would buy amd but they are fucking worthless retards too
typed from my 4080 and 7800X3D actually nigger
im still mad i cant programmatically turn my tv on with it and have to reach for the remote instead of just using a hotkey to do it. HDMI-CEC SUPPORT WHEN?
if amd cards supported it i would buy amd but they are fucking worthless retards too
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:00:47 No.103963728
>>103963712
>won't even need that download page soon
can't wait for the integrated DLSS swapper in nvidia app
>won't even need that download page soon
can't wait for the integrated DLSS swapper in nvidia app
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:01:54 No.103963734
>>103963690
Liar
Even your ancient cherrypicks of esoteric glitches get instantly destroyed
>>103963706
>>103963712
Soon to be 4.0
Liar
Even your ancient cherrypicks of esoteric glitches get instantly destroyed
>>103963706
>>103963712
Soon to be 4.0
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:02:06 No.103963737
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:02:20 No.103963740
>>103963728
LEAK R570 NOW LEAK IT LEAK IT LEAK IT I WANT IT REEEEEEEEEE
LEAK R570 NOW LEAK IT LEAK IT LEAK IT I WANT IT REEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:03:49 No.103963749
>>103963706
> We're on 3.7.x now
Here’s the latest DLSS preview from digital foundry
Two more versions?
KEK
> We're on 3.7.x now
Here’s the latest DLSS preview from digital foundry
Two more versions?
KEK
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:04:53 No.103963761
>>103963734
You get destroyed with your spreadsheet, KEK
You get destroyed with your spreadsheet, KEK
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:06:57 No.103963777
>>103963749
You run your games at 5fps?
You run your games at 5fps?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:07:08 No.103963781
i'm actually more excited for reflex 2 now that ive tested the async stuff myself
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:07:57 No.103963787
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:13:44 No.103963825
>>103963777
it's really noticeable if you alter your time perception with lysergic acid
it's really noticeable if you alter your time perception with lysergic acid
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:14:09 No.103963829
>>103963737
in america maybe. regional gouging is a real issue
in america maybe. regional gouging is a real issue
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:15:24 No.103963835
Building a new PC this week.
Anyone know the best Windows 11 debloater?
Anyone know the best Windows 11 debloater?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:15:49 No.103963836
>>103963829
Sounds like I got the poo color right at least
Sounds like I got the poo color right at least
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:16:07 No.103963838
>>103963835
IOT LTSC 21H2
IOT LTSC 21H2
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:17:06 No.103963842
>>103963383
You buy an asus matrix if you want the best
4090 matrix's do 2.9ghz ootb and trivially OC to 3ghz and even 3.1ghz
You buy an asus matrix if you want the best
4090 matrix's do 2.9ghz ootb and trivially OC to 3ghz and even 3.1ghz
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:17:53 No.103963848
>>103963842
*farts*
*farts*
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:18:01 No.103963850
>>103963836
nope
nope
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:19:01 No.103963861
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:19:31 No.103963866
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)00:27:08 No.103963922
>>103962052
What so special about this mobo?
What so special about this mobo?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)01:19:05 No.103964284
>>103963922
Features are nice enough to be sold for $450, but you were able to buy one below $350 with some promotional discounts/rebates.
Features are nice enough to be sold for $450, but you were able to buy one below $350 with some promotional discounts/rebates.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)03:48:47 No.103965317
>>103963115
>>103963139
Better? Maybe, arguable, though. One is jaggy, the other one is smear. Different kids of shit. I thought DLAA was supposed to be not be smear.
>>103963139
Better? Maybe, arguable, though. One is jaggy, the other one is smear. Different kids of shit. I thought DLAA was supposed to be not be smear.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:18:03 No.103965818
>>103961542
Do you really need wifi on a desktop? No way for you to run an ethernet cable?
Do you really need wifi on a desktop? No way for you to run an ethernet cable?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:19:45 No.103965833
>>103965818
Wifi and bluetooth come in the same card, what that means you can use it for wireless earphones, keebs, mouse or whatever. It has its uses.
Wifi and bluetooth come in the same card, what that means you can use it for wireless earphones, keebs, mouse or whatever. It has its uses.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:22:39 No.103965859
>>103961923
where
where
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:24:21 No.103965875
>>103962069
>>103962128
Doesn't nvidia's mini-pc with 128GB unified make all this completely obsolete?
>>103962128
Doesn't nvidia's mini-pc with 128GB unified make all this completely obsolete?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:26:58 No.103965898
>>103964284
>Features are nice enough to be sold for $450,
nta but how so
I can't imagine a mobo ever being worth more than about $250-300 at most, unless you have crazy requirements
>Features are nice enough to be sold for $450,
nta but how so
I can't imagine a mobo ever being worth more than about $250-300 at most, unless you have crazy requirements