/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103938835
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103938835
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:17:20 No.103943300
So I'm making a mid-budget (2500 dollarinos soft limit, 3000 hard limit which I'd rather not hit) all-purpose rig, mainly aimed at goyming/movies/graphic work (drawing, Photoshop etc). Where did I fuck up, /g/?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M64p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M64
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:18:04 No.103943303
>>103943300
wait for blackwell
wait for blackwell
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:20:40 No.103943325
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:21:06 No.103943327
>>103943300
Rtx5070ti or rx9070xt when they will be released seems suitable for you
Rtx5070ti or rx9070xt when they will be released seems suitable for you
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:21:44 No.103943331
>>103943300
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M64p
You don't need a 1000W PSU for this. Get a 750 watt PSU for $100
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M6
You don't need a 1000W PSU for this. Get a 750 watt PSU for $100
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:22:18 No.103943335
PC cases are a waste of money if You do not own a gf or pet ...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:22:34 No.103943341
my post is also relevant for this thread
>>103942701
>isnt the 5090 a huge fraud? tsmc 4n just like the 40s. 27% more flops for 28% more watts and 25% higher price after 2.5 years.
my own 4090 is now >40% more expensive than when i bought it. how the fuck did we end up in a situation where after more than 2 years of moores law gpus are now worse in terms of price / performance even though nvidia is the highest valued company on the planet?
>>103942701
>isnt the 5090 a huge fraud? tsmc 4n just like the 40s. 27% more flops for 28% more watts and 25% higher price after 2.5 years.
my own 4090 is now >40% more expensive than when i bought it. how the fuck did we end up in a situation where after more than 2 years of moores law gpus are now worse in terms of price / performance even though nvidia is the highest valued company on the planet?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:25:25 No.103943359
>>103943325
low or medium settings + dlss performance should be able to hit 60fps at 1080p
low or medium settings + dlss performance should be able to hit 60fps at 1080p
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:29:03 No.103943395
>>103943341
Imagine the same happening for the 5090
Starting off at $2000 and being $2800 by the time 6090 launches
At this point, its an investment lmao
Imagine the same happening for the 5090
Starting off at $2000 and being $2800 by the time 6090 launches
At this point, its an investment lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:29:25 No.103943402
>>103943291
completely overkill PSU. A 4070 Ti + 14900K won't draw anywhere near 1000W. 14900K under load sits around 300W, even with power fully unlocked + OC it maxes out at 400W in worst case scenario with all cores being raped: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k/22.html
In reality it will be 300W or lower for normal use. 4070 Ti tops out at around 300W as well.
Just buy a lower rated gold 850W ~150 dollar PSU and use the extra 100 bucks to get a proper mouse and other random crap. you have that mouse in your hand all the time so you don't want it to be some cheap shit. it needs to feel good and be good.
completely overkill PSU. A 4070 Ti + 14900K won't draw anywhere near 1000W. 14900K under load sits around 300W, even with power fully unlocked + OC it maxes out at 400W in worst case scenario with all cores being raped: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
In reality it will be 300W or lower for normal use. 4070 Ti tops out at around 300W as well.
Just buy a lower rated gold 850W ~150 dollar PSU and use the extra 100 bucks to get a proper mouse and other random crap. you have that mouse in your hand all the time so you don't want it to be some cheap shit. it needs to feel good and be good.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:30:12 No.103943411
>>103943300
14900k is extremely stupid, just in general. absurdly bad thermals. just get a 7950x/9950x. get x3d variant for games and use lasso tool.
you'll probably be dissatisfied with the 4070 if you're spending that much money. you will want a 4090/5090. just accept it.
>le hard limit
OK, you 5 years from now wont care about your 500 saved from your gay limit and will wish you just bought the better stuff.
>>103943341
AI stuff exploded several months after 4090 released. 3090 was $1,500 at launch in 2020 btw. was like $700 used when you could get it still.
14900k is extremely stupid, just in general. absurdly bad thermals. just get a 7950x/9950x. get x3d variant for games and use lasso tool.
you'll probably be dissatisfied with the 4070 if you're spending that much money. you will want a 4090/5090. just accept it.
>le hard limit
OK, you 5 years from now wont care about your 500 saved from your gay limit and will wish you just bought the better stuff.
>>103943341
AI stuff exploded several months after 4090 released. 3090 was $1,500 at launch in 2020 btw. was like $700 used when you could get it still.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:32:18 No.103943435
>>103943395
electronic parts like this, being used for production stuff, do not last. they also arent quadro/enterprise parts. the prices are being inflated by the horde of random indie nobodies buying them for their Patreon business. a real company that makes money isnt using xx90s for work.
electronic parts like this, being used for production stuff, do not last. they also arent quadro/enterprise parts. the prices are being inflated by the horde of random indie nobodies buying them for their Patreon business. a real company that makes money isnt using xx90s for work.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:32:52 No.103943441
>>103943287
Melted butt
Melted butt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:34:46 No.103943468
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:36:34 No.103943491
>>103943325
>will this run stalker 2?
RTX 3060 12GB = ~42 FPS @ 1080p with 'Epic' quality settings (minimum = ~27 FPS)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/stalker-2-fps-performance-benchmark/
So you'll need to turn down some settings and/or use DLSS. In games like this there are always settings that have significant impact on performance but not so much on visual quality. There's probably already good optimization guides out there to squeeze out more FPS with minimal loss in visual fidelity.
>will this run stalker 2?
RTX 3060 12GB = ~42 FPS @ 1080p with 'Epic' quality settings (minimum = ~27 FPS)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
So you'll need to turn down some settings and/or use DLSS. In games like this there are always settings that have significant impact on performance but not so much on visual quality. There's probably already good optimization guides out there to squeeze out more FPS with minimal loss in visual fidelity.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:38:05 No.103943503
>>103943300
Blackwell, maybe consider a cheaper Core Ultra instead of a last gen chip. Not as good for gaming, but with a midrange graphics card, it mostly won't matter. Your "productivity" is mostly single core, so not really worth buying a chip with a bunch of cores. I don't like the 14900K. There's no guarantee that Intel has actually fixed the degradation problems.
Definitely wait for the 5070. It'll have better media engines
Blackwell, maybe consider a cheaper Core Ultra instead of a last gen chip. Not as good for gaming, but with a midrange graphics card, it mostly won't matter. Your "productivity" is mostly single core, so not really worth buying a chip with a bunch of cores. I don't like the 14900K. There's no guarantee that Intel has actually fixed the degradation problems.
Definitely wait for the 5070. It'll have better media engines
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:40:43 No.103943526
>>103943325
Yes but not well. CPU will be a hard limit
>>103943359
>dlss performance
It would be DLSS Quality with optimized settings
>>103943491
>There's probably already good optimization guides out there
BenchmarKing is one of the best
https://youtu.be/814y2OPLsX0?si=plRRvTNof95zhNTC
Yes but not well. CPU will be a hard limit
>>103943359
>dlss performance
It would be DLSS Quality with optimized settings
>>103943491
>There's probably already good optimization guides out there
BenchmarKing is one of the best
https://youtu.be/814y2OPLsX0?si=plR
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:42:16 No.103943541
>>103943300
4070S is DOA for 1440p, change to 4070TiS/7900GRE 5070Ti/~9070xt
4070S is DOA for 1440p, change to 4070TiS/7900GRE 5070Ti/~9070xt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:43:21 No.103943547
>>103943435
youd be surprised how many big companies still use xx90s for smaller stuff. before the recent price surge you could build a 8x4090 server for the price of less than a single h100. the difference was even bigger in 3090 vs a100
youd be surprised how many big companies still use xx90s for smaller stuff. before the recent price surge you could build a 8x4090 server for the price of less than a single h100. the difference was even bigger in 3090 vs a100
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:45:27 No.103943572
>>103943541
>4070S is DOA for 1440p, change to 7900GRE
What a VRAMeming moron
4070 Super is good for 1440p, while the 7900 GRE is already trash
>4070S is DOA for 1440p, change to 7900GRE
What a VRAMeming moron
4070 Super is good for 1440p, while the 7900 GRE is already trash
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:50:26 No.103943627
now that nvidia decided 3080 is the best a mainstream gpu can do + interpolation couldnt they make a console like that?
Just use 3nm, make very small energy efficient 6070 thats equivalent to 3080 raster perf + 5 interpolated frames, slap some mediatek cpu in there and call it a day.
Just use 3nm, make very small energy efficient 6070 thats equivalent to 3080 raster perf + 5 interpolated frames, slap some mediatek cpu in there and call it a day.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:50:41 No.103943629
The fucking schizo is back, going to shit up this general for the whole weekend
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:52:50 No.103943654
>>103943629
Just get 4chanx and setup the image md5 filter
Just get 4chanx and setup the image md5 filter
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:55:59 No.103943691
>>103943627
>couldnt they make a console like that?
It would probably have to be ARM based
>>103943654
Definitely do that, but better yet just leave, as you and your discord aren't going to get away with your shilling while I'm here
>"the 7600 is better than the 4060" >>103939243
>couldnt they make a console like that?
It would probably have to be ARM based
>>103943654
Definitely do that, but better yet just leave, as you and your discord aren't going to get away with your shilling while I'm here
>"the 7600 is better than the 4060" >>103939243
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:57:40 No.103943702
>>103943572
> 4070 Super is good for 1440p
Based stutter fest enjoyer trolling people into making the same uneducated mistakes as he did, KEK
> 4070 Super is good for 1440p
Based stutter fest enjoyer trolling people into making the same uneducated mistakes as he did, KEK
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:59:53 No.103943724
>>103943702
>rt
>frame generation
Radeon can't do either of those things in Hogwarts. You had to search far and wide for your cherrypick, but let's see how well the 7900GRE does in some random RT examples at 1440p
You yourself have now set this as the benchmark for a 1440p GPU
>rt
>frame generation
Radeon can't do either of those things in Hogwarts. You had to search far and wide for your cherrypick, but let's see how well the 7900GRE does in some random RT examples at 1440p
You yourself have now set this as the benchmark for a 1440p GPU
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:06:03 No.103943788
>turn on hdr
>highlights get brighter
is this.... it? maybe this is why the TV cucks said the C4 blows the QDOLED monitors away in HDR still and were unimpressed
is it time to take the giant tv pill?
>highlights get brighter
is this.... it? maybe this is why the TV cucks said the C4 blows the QDOLED monitors away in HDR still and were unimpressed
is it time to take the giant tv pill?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:09:01 No.103943819
>>103943702
Radeon's not looking too good, is it?
Radeon's not looking too good, is it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:12:19 No.103943848
>>103943788
that's what HDR is. certain parts can get brighter, and the static contrast is infinite because you can turn the pixel off so it's black.
that's what HDR is. certain parts can get brighter, and the static contrast is infinite because you can turn the pixel off so it's black.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:14:59 No.103943871
>>103943702
Whoops! You even thought your cherrypick was good. Even Radeon's best is shit tier
Need I go on?
Whoops! You even thought your cherrypick was good. Even Radeon's best is shit tier
Need I go on?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:16:24 No.103943879
>>103943871
nobody cares about raytracing
nobody cares about raytracing
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:16:41 No.103943883
Oh good, it broke
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:17:33 No.103943890
I care about raytracing
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:21:48 No.103943935
Looking at the perfomance and prices of the AIBs of the 50 series getting a FE would the best option it seems like.
Has it been leaked if the 5080 and below have the exact same cooler as the 5090? Like same size vc, heatsink, fans?
Because if the 5090 FE cooler design can actually handle 575w then it should've no problems with 360w.
Has it been leaked if the 5080 and below have the exact same cooler as the 5090? Like same size vc, heatsink, fans?
Because if the 5090 FE cooler design can actually handle 575w then it should've no problems with 360w.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:23:06 No.103943943
>>103943879
Apparently anon >>103943702 does. Rather strange because he bought a 7900 XTX that has lower base performance than a lowly 4070 in games where RT actually matters. And of course it has trash tier FSR3, which makes RT near unusable on Radeon.
Apparently anon >>103943702 does. Rather strange because he bought a 7900 XTX that has lower base performance than a lowly 4070 in games where RT actually matters. And of course it has trash tier FSR3, which makes RT near unusable on Radeon.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:23:21 No.103943945
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:24:10 No.103943951
>>103943943
idk man, none of my friends give a shit about it
idk man, none of my friends give a shit about it
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:25:15 No.103943960
>>103943945
>user error cache setting
Well you are stupid so I wouldn't put it past you
Even the 4060 destroys the 6700 XT in Indiana Jones
>user error cache setting
Well you are stupid so I wouldn't put it past you
Even the 4060 destroys the 6700 XT in Indiana Jones
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:36:50 No.103944086
>>103943935
Unless you can program a bot and you live in the United States you aren't going to get a FE.
Unless you can program a bot and you live in the United States you aren't going to get a FE.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:38:07 No.103944105
>>103943943
RT is for developers to make lighting design easier, not for players.
>AMD sucks at RT
this is not a revelation anon. nobody gives a fuck about RT in the first place. who cares what some other fag is talking about. stop wasting your time posting graphs and shit all day.
RT is for developers to make lighting design easier, not for players.
>AMD sucks at RT
this is not a revelation anon. nobody gives a fuck about RT in the first place. who cares what some other fag is talking about. stop wasting your time posting graphs and shit all day.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:39:32 No.103944121
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:41:19 No.103944135
>>103943935
aibs with same prices as the fe exist too
no point in getting a fe unless you need a 2 slot
aibs with same prices as the fe exist too
no point in getting a fe unless you need a 2 slot
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:45:40 No.103944190
>>103944121
FE's are very hard to get your hands on. Even the RTX 4080 at its original launch price that nobody wanted was never in stock on NVIDIA's website where I live in Europe. You'll definitely need some kind of notification program to tell you when one becomes available, and then you'd need to have everything ready to go so you don't have to waste time filling things in. I remember with the 40-series there were entire groups of people on Discords monitoring when the next drop might occur.
FE's are very hard to get your hands on. Even the RTX 4080 at its original launch price that nobody wanted was never in stock on NVIDIA's website where I live in Europe. You'll definitely need some kind of notification program to tell you when one becomes available, and then you'd need to have everything ready to go so you don't have to waste time filling things in. I remember with the 40-series there were entire groups of people on Discords monitoring when the next drop might occur.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:50:00 No.103944232
>>103943960
Destroys by having less fps, KEK
Destroys by having less fps, KEK
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:51:46 No.103944245
>>103944232
Watch as he shifts from fps to fidelity whilst calling the test out for user error
Watch as he shifts from fps to fidelity whilst calling the test out for user error
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:51:58 No.103944249
what are the odds that nvidia ends up selling more 5090s than amd sells 9070xts
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:53:32 No.103944269
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:53:35 No.103944270
>>103944232
>that 3080 getting annihilated due to 10GB VRAM and falling even below the A770
there's your answer as to why NVIDIA keeps gimping the VRAM on high-end cards. running out of VRAM is a death sentence. makes it much more likely that you'll buy a new card. i hate them so much for doing this. and you just know that the 3080 GPU itself is perfectly capable of running that game well if it wasn't bottlenecked by VRAM.
>that 3080 getting annihilated due to 10GB VRAM and falling even below the A770
there's your answer as to why NVIDIA keeps gimping the VRAM on high-end cards. running out of VRAM is a death sentence. makes it much more likely that you'll buy a new card. i hate them so much for doing this. and you just know that the 3080 GPU itself is perfectly capable of running that game well if it wasn't bottlenecked by VRAM.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:53:51 No.103944272
>>103944249
depends, how fast can they make 5090s?
depends, how fast can they make 5090s?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:56:26 No.103944294
>>103944135
don't need a 2 slot just don't want to pay the premium of some of the aibs.
>>103944190
welp
I will try my luck with the FE.
I'm really excited to see the temp/noise benchmarks on friday.
don't need a 2 slot just don't want to pay the premium of some of the aibs.
>>103944190
welp
I will try my luck with the FE.
I'm really excited to see the temp/noise benchmarks on friday.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:56:34 No.103944296
>>103944232
>>103944245
>>103944270
User error settings in idtech games. This is why AMDrones love to pull out these games for their VRAM cherrypicks
>>103944245
>>103944270
User error settings in idtech games. This is why AMDrones love to pull out these games for their VRAM cherrypicks
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:57:40 No.103944307
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:00:46 No.103944339
![Lossless Scaling： Frame Generation For Every Game - But How Good Is it？ [69k7ZXLK1to]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1737219646680687s.jpg)
>>103944105
Apparently anon >>103943702 cares.
>>103944232
But let's get back to the requirements for a good 1440p graphics card that you yourself laid out, based on the webm >>103943702
>high quality upsampling
>rt performance
>frame generation
Let's take Frame Generation next. Not only is DLSS3 FG in massively more games (something like 4 to 5x the number of games that FSR3 is in and hilariously FSR FG is not in Hogwarts), FSR FG is currently absolute garbage. How are you in good faith going to claim that FG is necessary for a 1440p card and then recommend (and buy for yourself) a Radeon card? nogaems and shit quality
Apparently anon >>103943702 cares.
>>103944232
But let's get back to the requirements for a good 1440p graphics card that you yourself laid out, based on the webm >>103943702
>high quality upsampling
>rt performance
>frame generation
Let's take Frame Generation next. Not only is DLSS3 FG in massively more games (something like 4 to 5x the number of games that FSR3 is in and hilariously FSR FG is not in Hogwarts), FSR FG is currently absolute garbage. How are you in good faith going to claim that FG is necessary for a 1440p card and then recommend (and buy for yourself) a Radeon card? nogaems and shit quality
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:03:31 No.103944374
why do you people wanna discuss gpus every single day, it's literally been solved
either you buy a 5090 or you buy the best PPF card and that's that
either you buy a 5090 or you buy the best PPF card and that's that
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:12:28 No.103944483
>>103944374
>PPF
thats very subjective, amd fans think raster is the only thing a gpu should do and wont factor in rt and ai perf. meanwhile nvidia has the best overall package
>PPF
thats very subjective, amd fans think raster is the only thing a gpu should do and wont factor in rt and ai perf. meanwhile nvidia has the best overall package
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:12:38 No.103944486
>>103944296
>you should decrease the settings that otherwise eat zero(0) FPS
Based vram overflow enjoyer
>>103944339
>the massive wall of copium begins to emerge
Yawn…
>you should decrease the settings that otherwise eat zero(0) FPS
Based vram overflow enjoyer
>>103944339
>the massive wall of copium begins to emerge
Yawn…
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:17:00 No.103944531
>>103944483
TV Schizos are revoling en masse, selling their PS5 slop consoles and going back to PC Builds
consoles use smeary upscaling slop
on the PC side they are the true pixel peepers 65-77"+ displays and 30cm distance from said screens
they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
and if you disable all that you cant run RT Memes either because 4k RT is 28 fps
you need atleast 40-60fps min even if you wanna use frame interpolating memes too almost
but of course AMD will most likely fumble the bag again as always
everything is overpriced anyways
everything is bad
idk anymore
we are in hell
TV Schizos are revoling en masse, selling their PS5 slop consoles and going back to PC Builds
consoles use smeary upscaling slop
on the PC side they are the true pixel peepers 65-77"+ displays and 30cm distance from said screens
they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
and if you disable all that you cant run RT Memes either because 4k RT is 28 fps
you need atleast 40-60fps min even if you wanna use frame interpolating memes too almost
but of course AMD will most likely fumble the bag again as always
everything is overpriced anyways
everything is bad
idk anymore
we are in hell
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:17:28 No.103944535
>>103944296
I swear HUB genuinely doesn't look at the games during benchmarks
It makes sense that there's a whole generation of pc gamers too stupid to figure out which settings they should use on their rigs because the follow channels like this. It also makes sense that developers have to hide advanced settings from users now.
If settings were a rope the majority of pc gamers would hang themselves with it.
I swear HUB genuinely doesn't look at the games during benchmarks
It makes sense that there's a whole generation of pc gamers too stupid to figure out which settings they should use on their rigs because the follow channels like this. It also makes sense that developers have to hide advanced settings from users now.
If settings were a rope the majority of pc gamers would hang themselves with it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:19:34 No.103944560
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:19:55 No.103944565
>>103944374
Mostly because of the AMDrone insects that infest /pcgb/. This was their safe space about 10 years ago, and they still haven't gotten over it.
RDNA4 has the chance to be good
>RT perf in challenging situations will likely be better, at least based on the improvements to the PS5 Pro
>FSR4 is finally switching to an ML kernel (probably at least DLSS2 quality, which is better than native generally speaking)
>better base rasterization performance compared to Geforce as usual (pretty much the last consideration for a modern graphics card, as you said 'solved,' but it's a nice to have)
The main problem with Radeon is still drivers, and of course the lack of FSR4 games. DLSS2+ is in over 500, and it's not only better than native generally, but also DLSS2 can be upgraded to DLSS4 by overwriting to the DLL or supposedly using the Nvidia app. DLSS4 MFG will likely be a killer feature for anyone who has a 240 Hz monitor, but for others it's not a big deal, as single FG is good enough.
Obviously testing will be required, but if Radeon prices it's cards right, they could be a good buy for some people, especially after the price drops that Radeon cards usually get soon after launch.
>>103944483
>subjective
At this point it's not. DLSS is the best value/finewine to ever come to graphics cards. The only people who deny this are AMDelusional luddites
Mostly because of the AMDrone insects that infest /pcgb/. This was their safe space about 10 years ago, and they still haven't gotten over it.
RDNA4 has the chance to be good
>RT perf in challenging situations will likely be better, at least based on the improvements to the PS5 Pro
>FSR4 is finally switching to an ML kernel (probably at least DLSS2 quality, which is better than native generally speaking)
>better base rasterization performance compared to Geforce as usual (pretty much the last consideration for a modern graphics card, as you said 'solved,' but it's a nice to have)
The main problem with Radeon is still drivers, and of course the lack of FSR4 games. DLSS2+ is in over 500, and it's not only better than native generally, but also DLSS2 can be upgraded to DLSS4 by overwriting to the DLL or supposedly using the Nvidia app. DLSS4 MFG will likely be a killer feature for anyone who has a 240 Hz monitor, but for others it's not a big deal, as single FG is good enough.
Obviously testing will be required, but if Radeon prices it's cards right, they could be a good buy for some people, especially after the price drops that Radeon cards usually get soon after launch.
>>103944483
>subjective
At this point it's not. DLSS is the best value/finewine to ever come to graphics cards. The only people who deny this are AMDelusional luddites
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:20:56 No.103944579
>>103944560
AMDelusional. RADV isn't even notably faster than AMD drivers on Linux
AMDelusional. RADV isn't even notably faster than AMD drivers on Linux
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:22:12 No.103944594
>>103944531
>they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
Absolutely no one besides AMDrones have been (because AMD has been five years late in fielding ML based FSR)
>they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
Absolutely no one besides AMDrones have been (because AMD has been five years late in fielding ML based FSR)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:25:04 No.103944640
>>103944531
>>103944594 (me)
>they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
And why are AMDrones mad? Because FSR has been so bad. Hopefully FS4 will change this, but your low end experience with FSR3 and below doesn't apply to everyone (except conslowfags aka Radeon buyers)
>>103944594 (me)
>they are revolting against artifacts, dlss, upscaling
And why are AMDrones mad? Because FSR has been so bad. Hopefully FS4 will change this, but your low end experience with FSR3 and below doesn't apply to everyone (except conslowfags aka Radeon buyers)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:27:19 No.103944660
??????wtf is this ai bot spam????
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:27:33 No.103944665
If this deal is still available after a month or at when 50 series/ 9070 benchmark comes out, which one is the go-to one? My requirements is 95% gaming/ 55 casual JAV porn usage. This will be my first PC, I feel like the third option is brain-dead when the mobo cost more than the CPU but is nice looking with it's error code dispaly and design.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:28:22 No.103944675
>>103944190
They're easy to get on ebay
They're easy to get on ebay
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:28:29 No.103944676
>>103944660
>>103944374
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/pcbg/start/2023-11-21/end/2023-11-24/page/13/
>>103944374
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/te
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:28:50 No.103944681
>>103944665
Also is the corsair RAM upgrade worth it/
Also is the corsair RAM upgrade worth it/
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:30:14 No.103944700
>>103944270
Buyers should have listened when Jensen said the more you buy the more you save...
Buyers should have listened when Jensen said the more you buy the more you save...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:31:38 No.103944713
>>103944486
>muh worst case fg
>swinging the mouse so wildly that 2 frames at 120 fps means a 180 degree turn
No shit, retard. But (You), yes (You) >>103943702, indicated that FG is requirement for a 1440p graphics card. Why are you backtracking, you little snake?
You also indicated by your webm >>103943702 that high quality upsampling is a requirement for a 1440p graphics card. No Radeon card has that, so why do you constantly shill Radeon, and why did you waste your own money on one? It's funny to me when the VRAMemers get fucked over. Why did you have to sell your 6900 XT and immediately buy a new card after one gen? And why was the 6800 XT useless for 4K even within its own gen? That's right, because VRAM != performance, and in fact it's the last consideration when buying a graphics card if you want said graphics card to last
Reconstruction (support and quality) > performance > muh VRAM
>muh worst case fg
>swinging the mouse so wildly that 2 frames at 120 fps means a 180 degree turn
No shit, retard. But (You), yes (You) >>103943702, indicated that FG is requirement for a 1440p graphics card. Why are you backtracking, you little snake?
You also indicated by your webm >>103943702 that high quality upsampling is a requirement for a 1440p graphics card. No Radeon card has that, so why do you constantly shill Radeon, and why did you waste your own money on one? It's funny to me when the VRAMemers get fucked over. Why did you have to sell your 6900 XT and immediately buy a new card after one gen? And why was the 6800 XT useless for 4K even within its own gen? That's right, because VRAM != performance, and in fact it's the last consideration when buying a graphics card if you want said graphics card to last
Reconstruction (support and quality) > performance > muh VRAM
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:32:39 No.103944724
>>103944660
It might as well be since he likes arguing with himself
It might as well be since he likes arguing with himself
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:38:11 No.103944790
>>103944483
> wont factor in rt
Because rt is kinda meh in its current state, we have like only 1 actually good game with RT- metro exodus enhanced edition and 1 half baked PT meme cyberjunk 2077.
And literally 1 remixed game from 2007, lmao, lmao even. Where’s muh “one click remix the game AI-solution” from nvidia’s presentation 2 years ago?
It could be interesting in the future after ~4-5 gens
> wont factor in rt
Because rt is kinda meh in its current state, we have like only 1 actually good game with RT- metro exodus enhanced edition and 1 half baked PT meme cyberjunk 2077.
And literally 1 remixed game from 2007, lmao, lmao even. Where’s muh “one click remix the game AI-solution” from nvidia’s presentation 2 years ago?
It could be interesting in the future after ~4-5 gens
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:42:00 No.103944826
>>103944713
> indicated that FG is requirement for a 1440p graphics card
Anon… if you didn’t notice… I don’t that it’s helping this dead fish to swim, it’s already dead KEK
> indicated that FG is requirement for a 1440p graphics card
Anon… if you didn’t notice… I don’t that it’s helping this dead fish to swim, it’s already dead KEK
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:43:31 No.103944845
![Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered - Ray Tracing ON vs OFF Comparison [nXerm08r69c]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1737222211254061s.jpg)
>>103944676
>threadripper schizo
Yeah, the bot spam as always been pro-AMD and anti-Intel/Nvidia
Here's one of his janny'd OPs
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97146530/#q97146530
>>103944790
>>103944826
But (You), yes (You) already claimed RT is a requirement for a 1440p graphics card #103943702. Why are (You) trying to backtrack by cherrypicking the launch version of FG?
>threadripper schizo
Yeah, the bot spam as always been pro-AMD and anti-Intel/Nvidia
Here's one of his janny'd OPs
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97
>>103944790
>>103944826
But (You), yes (You) already claimed RT is a requirement for a 1440p graphics card #103943702. Why are (You) trying to backtrack by cherrypicking the launch version of FG?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:44:29 No.103944856
I simply refuse to buy another motherboard without a debug code indicator
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:49:33 No.103944902
>>103944845
>he’s so mad that his 4070 is DOA that he referred to this webm 7 times already
OH NO NO NO
>he’s so mad that his 4070 is DOA that he referred to this webm 7 times already
OH NO NO NO
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:52:22 No.103944939
I want to build a desktop, havent had one in years, but I'm stuck on the question of
>refresh rate
>resolution
>OLED
what's the redpill/no shill answer right now? what's blatantly worth the money? I don't have a Best Buy or Microcenter nearby to go see what it looks like in person, really.
>refresh rate
>resolution
>OLED
what's the redpill/no shill answer right now? what's blatantly worth the money? I don't have a Best Buy or Microcenter nearby to go see what it looks like in person, really.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:53:02 No.103944948
>>103944902
>mad
I've destroyed you
Why would that make me mad?
You wasted your money on a high end (this is where the zoomers would say 'lmao') Radeon card without the features you claim are necessary even for a 1440p card. Not only that, but you also bought the card for 4K native, which it can't do in modern games even without RT.
You're very low IQ and don't understand what you're buying
>mad
I've destroyed you
Why would that make me mad?
You wasted your money on a high end (this is where the zoomers would say 'lmao') Radeon card without the features you claim are necessary even for a 1440p card. Not only that, but you also bought the card for 4K native, which it can't do in modern games even without RT.
You're very low IQ and don't understand what you're buying
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:53:44 No.103944958
>>103944939
34" ultrawide, IPS, 144hz.
Unless you're a hugely competitive FPS player, in which case you want one of those retardedly high hz 24 or 27" monitoes.
34" ultrawide, IPS, 144hz.
Unless you're a hugely competitive FPS player, in which case you want one of those retardedly high hz 24 or 27" monitoes.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:57:37 No.103944998
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:58:33 No.103945011
>>103944939
Qd oled is so far ahead in image quality over ips it's not even funny
Qd oled is so far ahead in image quality over ips it's not even funny
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:00:55 No.103945037
>>103944939
If you have the budget, a 240 Hz 4K OLED like the MSI MPG 321URX is the best option. With DLSS, 4K is very easy to drive and much higher quality than the image you could get otherwise
Below that, the next best option is probably punting with something like a AOC Q27G3XMN, which at least has decent contrast and entry HDR. The bottom would be something like the Dell G2724D. Anything you buy now is just a stopgap before 4K OLED
If you have the budget, a 240 Hz 4K OLED like the MSI MPG 321URX is the best option. With DLSS, 4K is very easy to drive and much higher quality than the image you could get otherwise
Below that, the next best option is probably punting with something like a AOC Q27G3XMN, which at least has decent contrast and entry HDR. The bottom would be something like the Dell G2724D. Anything you buy now is just a stopgap before 4K OLED
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:05:21 No.103945084
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/radeon/filename/screenshot/page/2/
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:06:00 No.103945098
>AMD is... le hecking good!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:07:13 No.103945109
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/delusional%20you/filename/screenshot/
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:07:38 No.103945114
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:12:15 No.103945148
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:12:19 No.103945149
Another reason Nvidia lost
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:14:31 No.103945176
AIBs are still acting like the 9070 XT is launching next week and AMD hasn't even announced that they're announcing it.
What is going on? Who is the retard here? And don't say (You).
What is going on? Who is the retard here? And don't say (You).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:15:44 No.103945193
>>103945176
AMD is holding their own event later. It will launch on the monster hunter wilds driver launch.
AMD is holding their own event later. It will launch on the monster hunter wilds driver launch.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:17:03 No.103945205
>>103945176
They're just bringing back the old way of launching GPUs without an explicit announcement
They're just bringing back the old way of launching GPUs without an explicit announcement
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:20:23 No.103945244
>>103945037
if only dlss was available on all games. it'd make 4k monitors the obvious choice :\
if only dlss was available on all games. it'd make 4k monitors the obvious choice :\
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:20:59 No.103945250
>>103945149
This but normal videos
This but normal videos
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:23:36 No.103945280
>>103945205
I too remember when ATi Radeon casually dropped a HD beast that slaughtered Nvidia.
I too remember when ATi Radeon casually dropped a HD beast that slaughtered Nvidia.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:25:18 No.103945312
>>103945149
You can use Lossless with Nvidia if you want to. It's garbage, as shown >>103944339 because it's not integrated with the game engine and because it's not ML based. You can see the trend:
>no ml + no engine integration, aka lossless
Unusable garbage with high latency
>no ml but has engine integration, aka fsr3 fg
Garbage with lower latency
>ml + integration, aka dlss3 fg
Best image quality and latency
>>103945244
It's in most games, almost all recent demanding games. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that's lacking DLSS is Helldivers 2. DLSS is a plugin for Unreal and Unity
You can use Lossless with Nvidia if you want to. It's garbage, as shown >>103944339 because it's not integrated with the game engine and because it's not ML based. You can see the trend:
>no ml + no engine integration, aka lossless
Unusable garbage with high latency
>no ml but has engine integration, aka fsr3 fg
Garbage with lower latency
>ml + integration, aka dlss3 fg
Best image quality and latency
>>103945244
It's in most games, almost all recent demanding games. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that's lacking DLSS is Helldivers 2. DLSS is a plugin for Unreal and Unity
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:25:50 No.103945319
>>103945149
this but
honey select 2
koikatsu
koikatsu sunshine
virt-a-mate
skyrim with sex mods
sims with sex mods
random v0.0.1 f95 games
summer sakarai upon release by the end of february
this but
honey select 2
koikatsu
koikatsu sunshine
virt-a-mate
skyrim with sex mods
sims with sex mods
random v0.0.1 f95 games
summer sakarai upon release by the end of february
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:28:07 No.103945351
>>103943702
you made him so mad lol
you made him so mad lol
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:30:31 No.103945381
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:33:18 No.103945422
>>103943287
just change the name to nvidia shill general already
just change the name to nvidia shill general already
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:34:07 No.103945444
niggas out here really do be hallucinating dlss fake frames and going ahhhh its better than native
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:35:32 No.103945465
>>103945444
Don't take my word for it, take AMDumboxed's
If they ever have anything at all positive about Nvidia or Intel to say, you better sit up and listen
Don't take my word for it, take AMDumboxed's
If they ever have anything at all positive about Nvidia or Intel to say, you better sit up and listen
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:37:45 No.103945490
>>103945465
ahhhh better than native finna hallucinate
ahhhh better than native finna hallucinate
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:38:18 No.103945500
>>103943287
is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the ryzen 5600x solid or will I need to buy a different one, don't really plan on playing anything more intensive than hoi4 with a mod or new vegas
is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the ryzen 5600x solid or will I need to buy a different one, don't really plan on playing anything more intensive than hoi4 with a mod or new vegas
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:38:45 No.103945509
>>103945465
The same people that didn’t notice this KEK
The same people that didn’t notice this KEK
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:39:48 No.103945518
I haven't been here in a while. Is the nvidiot the intcel who used to spam about Intel Foundry memetech or did he rope after ARL released?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:40:32 No.103945526
>$750
AMDisaster
AMDisaster
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:41:34 No.103945537
>>103945422
Normally I'd go
>MLID
but he seems to have a real internal leak for once and not retailbro chinese whispers.
Normally I'd go
>MLID
but he seems to have a real internal leak for once and not retailbro chinese whispers.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:43:17 No.103945556
>>103945509
You fell for my trap, cherrypicker
The best you can do is find a glitch that only occurs in some versions of DLSS in some games AND when not moving the mouse for an inordinate amount of time
Why did you crop all the context out of your webm, liar?
You fell for my trap, cherrypicker
The best you can do is find a glitch that only occurs in some versions of DLSS in some games AND when not moving the mouse for an inordinate amount of time
Why did you crop all the context out of your webm, liar?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:43:41 No.103945560
If AMD hit their targets here, would a upgrade from a 6900XT be worth it? If the 9070XT isn't priced crazily I shouldn't pay more than $200 after selling my current card.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:46:06 No.103945586
Honestly I don't give a fuck about RT. All the people I showed it too prefer having fluid frames 144fps over RT.
Even the most diehard sonynigger ps5 pro shiller turned it off when he played cyberpunk while visiting. Unironically the only one who left it on was my friends kid cause he said it made Hogwarts look like magic lmao. Not even realistic just magic. Fuck RT
Even the most diehard sonynigger ps5 pro shiller turned it off when he played cyberpunk while visiting. Unironically the only one who left it on was my friends kid cause he said it made Hogwarts look like magic lmao. Not even realistic just magic. Fuck RT
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:47:46 No.103945602
>>103945556
Your cope is cute, but didn’t notice this massive issue, thus their excel spreadsheet is invalidated
Your cope is cute, but didn’t notice this massive issue, thus their excel spreadsheet is invalidated
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:50:40 No.103945632
>>103945037
> OLED
Burn in meme tech is a no go! Show me just one professional OLED display. You can't. They are all IPS (wide gamut).
> OLED
Burn in meme tech is a no go! Show me just one professional OLED display. You can't. They are all IPS (wide gamut).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:51:49 No.103945642
>>103944560
stop schizospamming this every thread, regards, another schizo
>>103944565
tv schizos hate fake frames and upscaling
>>103944594
>Absolutely no one besides AMDrones have been
Digital Foundry are smeary eyed retarded brain dead nvidia dick sucking jensen ball swallowing lead brained boomers who like smeary looking slopper games and artifacts
not a valid point
take the TV Schizo pill today
TV schizos all use Nvidia GPUs too, it's not a Brand war thing
who likes blurry games?
>>103944640
Native 4k
>>103944939
If you want the best HDR and Singleplayer gaymen you either: Buy a Samsung S90D 65" (or whatever models are QDOLED in your country) or a C4 77" or something like that
If you don't wanna take the tv pill, you can dabble in QDOLED monitors (Beware of wonky firmware and forced pixel refreshes). 4k240 32", 4k240 27" (soon) with real dp2.1 no dsc, 1440p480hz woleds (soon qdoleds) if you are esporting
>what's blatantly worth the money?
if you are american I heard you can guy to those bestbuys or whatever and harass the people for openbox deals or whatever on samsung tvs, if you can manage to get a S90D 65" for 700 bux you won the jackpot
other than that a 100-299 bux 1080p/1440p 144hz+ IPS is already hitting diminishing returns
>>103945037
>Anything you buy now is just a stopgap before 4K OLED
unpopular opinion but 4k res is wasted on even 32" monitors, you need even larger displays to resolve the detail fully unless you sit with a fucking microscope
the anti 4k retards might have been right with that one
unless all you want to do is make the pixels invisible due to high ppi, but not for media/gaming bigger would just be better imo
>>103945114
no monitors ship with dp2.1 still
1080p400hz 8bit is max
1440p200hz 10bit is max
4k120hz 10bit is max
before you encounter the dsc jew
stop schizospamming this every thread, regards, another schizo
>>103944565
tv schizos hate fake frames and upscaling
>>103944594
>Absolutely no one besides AMDrones have been
Digital Foundry are smeary eyed retarded brain dead nvidia dick sucking jensen ball swallowing lead brained boomers who like smeary looking slopper games and artifacts
not a valid point
take the TV Schizo pill today
TV schizos all use Nvidia GPUs too, it's not a Brand war thing
who likes blurry games?
>>103944640
Native 4k
>>103944939
If you want the best HDR and Singleplayer gaymen you either: Buy a Samsung S90D 65" (or whatever models are QDOLED in your country) or a C4 77" or something like that
If you don't wanna take the tv pill, you can dabble in QDOLED monitors (Beware of wonky firmware and forced pixel refreshes). 4k240 32", 4k240 27" (soon) with real dp2.1 no dsc, 1440p480hz woleds (soon qdoleds) if you are esporting
>what's blatantly worth the money?
if you are american I heard you can guy to those bestbuys or whatever and harass the people for openbox deals or whatever on samsung tvs, if you can manage to get a S90D 65" for 700 bux you won the jackpot
other than that a 100-299 bux 1080p/1440p 144hz+ IPS is already hitting diminishing returns
>>103945037
>Anything you buy now is just a stopgap before 4K OLED
unpopular opinion but 4k res is wasted on even 32" monitors, you need even larger displays to resolve the detail fully unless you sit with a fucking microscope
the anti 4k retards might have been right with that one
unless all you want to do is make the pixels invisible due to high ppi, but not for media/gaming bigger would just be better imo
>>103945114
no monitors ship with dp2.1 still
1080p400hz 8bit is max
1440p200hz 10bit is max
4k120hz 10bit is max
before you encounter the dsc jew
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:53:48 No.103945668
I have always love amd gpus but I will not be purchasing from a company run by a female.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:55:59 No.103945688
>>103945668
Based
Based
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:57:27 No.103945698
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:01:27 No.103945742
>>103943287
bare anime feet on my gpu....
bare anime feet on my gpu....
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:01:38 No.103945745
>>103945518
I haven't generally recommend Intel CPUs as the default since the i5 8400 and i7 8700K. Intel's foundry has been and will continue to be substantially behind TSMC, unfortunately, leading to higher prices and less capacity on cutting edge nodes generally
>>103945602
The glitch was noticed, but on balance it doesn't matter considering how bad native is
DLSS++, that's how much better DLSS is than native in Ghostwire, as it is in most Unreal games
>>103945632
>Show me just one professional OLED display
https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-oled-pa32dc/
>>103945642
>who likes blurry games?
DLSS is generally less blurry (and faster) than TAA, and unless you have DLSS, TAA is forced
>unpopular opinion but 4k res is wasted on even 32" monitors
I disagree, the 27" 4K OLEDs recently released are worthwhile
I haven't generally recommend Intel CPUs as the default since the i5 8400 and i7 8700K. Intel's foundry has been and will continue to be substantially behind TSMC, unfortunately, leading to higher prices and less capacity on cutting edge nodes generally
>>103945602
The glitch was noticed, but on balance it doesn't matter considering how bad native is
DLSS++, that's how much better DLSS is than native in Ghostwire, as it is in most Unreal games
>>103945632
>Show me just one professional OLED display
https://www.asus.com/us/displays-de
>>103945642
>who likes blurry games?
DLSS is generally less blurry (and faster) than TAA, and unless you have DLSS, TAA is forced
>unpopular opinion but 4k res is wasted on even 32" monitors
I disagree, the 27" 4K OLEDs recently released are worthwhile
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:04:07 No.103945767
>>103945742
melted anime feet on your gpu...
melted anime feet on your gpu...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:04:46 No.103945771
>>103945745
Meant to post pic related
Meant to post pic related
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:07:01 No.103945795
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:10:15 No.103945832
My PG32UCDM is set to "wide gamut" mode, but Windows says I'm on 8bit SDR. Should I be concerned?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:13:14 No.103945862
>>103945745
avoid TAA jew games or force disable it
does not make dlss or upscaling memes GOOD
>I disagree, the 27" 4K OLEDs recently released are worthwhile
I can barely resolve 4k detail in 32" sitting at an arms reach, you need your face right up on a display to tell
what worth is 4k then? other than making things smoother
for gaming rendering all that res seems like a waste unless you go BIGGER
the anti 4k retards might have had a point
cs pro retards are sitting 1cm infront of a 1080p monitor to pixel peep
the further away you get from 4k the harder it is to see all the rendered detail
idk
people were saying 4k is better on 32 than 27 due to being able to see more of the detail not being wasted
well 32 is not large enough either
I should have taken the tv pill
>>103945832
open the nvidia display panel and go and swap to 10 bit and you should be fine probably
avoid TAA jew games or force disable it
does not make dlss or upscaling memes GOOD
>I disagree, the 27" 4K OLEDs recently released are worthwhile
I can barely resolve 4k detail in 32" sitting at an arms reach, you need your face right up on a display to tell
what worth is 4k then? other than making things smoother
for gaming rendering all that res seems like a waste unless you go BIGGER
the anti 4k retards might have had a point
cs pro retards are sitting 1cm infront of a 1080p monitor to pixel peep
the further away you get from 4k the harder it is to see all the rendered detail
idk
people were saying 4k is better on 32 than 27 due to being able to see more of the detail not being wasted
well 32 is not large enough either
I should have taken the tv pill
>>103945832
open the nvidia display panel and go and swap to 10 bit and you should be fine probably
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:14:30 No.103945874
>>103945832
and press alt+win+b to start hdr
and go into system -> display -> use hdr to calibrate it and download the "windows hdr calibration" app from win store I guess
and press alt+win+b to start hdr
and go into system -> display -> use hdr to calibrate it and download the "windows hdr calibration" app from win store I guess
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:14:49 No.103945881
Im going to buy a used 4090, I dont see why I shouldnt
People are dropping the prices on their listings almost daily in an attempt to move their shit before the new cards release, most of the time they have less than a year of ownership too
People are dropping the prices on their listings almost daily in an attempt to move their shit before the new cards release, most of the time they have less than a year of ownership too
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:20:06 No.103945926
>>103945881
Ampere is dropping even faster. The base 3080 is going to be $150 by late spring (for reference it's like $300 now)
Ampere is dropping even faster. The base 3080 is going to be $150 by late spring (for reference it's like $300 now)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:20:07 No.103945927
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:23:06 No.103945959
>>103945927
who gives a fuck nigger
who gives a fuck nigger
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:23:50 No.103945972
>>103945832
The monitor is only half the equation. You have to tell the driver what settings you want it to use. Also be aware of bandwidth limitations with DP1.4, especially without DSC
>>103945862
>avoid TAA jew games or force disable it
Impossible if you're playing new AAA games
For competitive games, monitor size needs to be small enough that you can easily see the entire screen at once. CS/Valorant/R6:Siege is a very specific type of esport, and the strategies they use don't translate to EFT or PUBG
Optimum had a video where he shows the extra detail you get on Overwatch in midrange fights (read headshots) with higher resolution monitors. He also advocates extremely wide gamut monitors so that you can max out digital vibrance without clipping
>>103945881
Not worth it unless you need muh VRAM for Blender or something
The monitor is only half the equation. You have to tell the driver what settings you want it to use. Also be aware of bandwidth limitations with DP1.4, especially without DSC
>>103945862
>avoid TAA jew games or force disable it
Impossible if you're playing new AAA games
For competitive games, monitor size needs to be small enough that you can easily see the entire screen at once. CS/Valorant/R6:Siege is a very specific type of esport, and the strategies they use don't translate to EFT or PUBG
Optimum had a video where he shows the extra detail you get on Overwatch in midrange fights (read headshots) with higher resolution monitors. He also advocates extremely wide gamut monitors so that you can max out digital vibrance without clipping
>>103945881
Not worth it unless you need muh VRAM for Blender or something
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:24:09 No.103945975
>>103945959
You will when you realize you can’t play games
You will when you realize you can’t play games
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:25:44 No.103945990
do i get a 5070 ti or the amd equiv
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:25:50 No.103945992
>>103945959
have fun playing games with 27 fps in a few months
have fun playing games with 27 fps in a few months
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:26:00 No.103945997
>>103943287
>Moore's law is dead sources said 5090 supply is non-existant
>We'll probably have to wait 2 more months
Waitbros, I don't feel so good
>Moore's law is dead sources said 5090 supply is non-existant
>We'll probably have to wait 2 more months
Waitbros, I don't feel so good
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:27:03 No.103946008
I just got a used 4070ti super for 650 euro. I never want to look for a used gpu again, used sellers are delusional
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:27:12 No.103946014
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:28:28 No.103946028
>>103946014
you can just download LSFG 3 anyway and get 4x. dlss isn't even necessary
you can just download LSFG 3 anyway and get 4x. dlss isn't even necessary
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:29:01 No.103946039
>>103946014
You should really not be a retard because of stuff you read online about dlss4 or mfg.
You should really not be a retard because of stuff you read online about dlss4 or mfg.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:29:42 No.103946048
>>103945990
Wait for reviews
Likely the 5070 Ti will be the better option if you want the niceties that go with Geforce like Reflex, drivers that aren't constantly CPU limited, a wide install base of DLSS games, etc. It's possible that RTG could price the 9070 XT such that it's actually competitive even when taking all that into account, so we'll see. Avoid being meme'd by the AMDrones in this thread regardless
(Pic related, Radeon has a CPU limit of ~60 FPS in KC:D while the Geforce CPU limit is ~90 FPS)
>>103946028
Moronic
Wait for reviews
Likely the 5070 Ti will be the better option if you want the niceties that go with Geforce like Reflex, drivers that aren't constantly CPU limited, a wide install base of DLSS games, etc. It's possible that RTG could price the 9070 XT such that it's actually competitive even when taking all that into account, so we'll see. Avoid being meme'd by the AMDrones in this thread regardless
(Pic related, Radeon has a CPU limit of ~60 FPS in KC:D while the Geforce CPU limit is ~90 FPS)
>>103946028
Moronic
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:30:02 No.103946052
>>103946028
Loseless scaling is actually shit. People that recommend it have never used frame gen.
Loseless scaling is actually shit. People that recommend it have never used frame gen.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:30:19 No.103946056
>>103945992
This is the only reason I have been second guessing the idea of buying a high end card this time around
The chance that devs double down on laziness and give up on optimization entirely is way too high, so anything you buy will end up useless in a couple years no matter what tier you buy
This is the only reason I have been second guessing the idea of buying a high end card this time around
The chance that devs double down on laziness and give up on optimization entirely is way too high, so anything you buy will end up useless in a couple years no matter what tier you buy
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:31:46 No.103946073
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:32:23 No.103946078
>>103946056
Games are developed for years before they release. Every game currently in development is being developed with nvidia’s technologies in mind for PC optimization. To buy a weaker card that has less of those features because of silly online talking points that have no real merit is actually something a retard would do.
Games are developed for years before they release. Every game currently in development is being developed with nvidia’s technologies in mind for PC optimization. To buy a weaker card that has less of those features because of silly online talking points that have no real merit is actually something a retard would do.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:33:40 No.103946088
>>103946052
Its kinda similar to DLSS FG though
Its kinda similar to DLSS FG though
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:35:58 No.103946110
>>103946088
People complain about how nvidia’s fake frames are blurry and increase input latency, and now suddenly the software version that is a shittier version is ok? Make up your mind, people.
People complain about how nvidia’s fake frames are blurry and increase input latency, and now suddenly the software version that is a shittier version is ok? Make up your mind, people.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:36:42 No.103946117
>>103946052
if you're using FG, you've already accepted that you just want frayms and don't care anymore, so debating the quality differences isn't that relevent
if you're using FG, you've already accepted that you just want frayms and don't care anymore, so debating the quality differences isn't that relevent
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:36:58 No.103946121
>>103945972
I assume DSC is enabled if I'm at 240 hz? I heard it's "visually lossless".
I assume DSC is enabled if I'm at 240 hz? I heard it's "visually lossless".
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:05 No.103946123
Is it better to replace my mobo before getting a new CPU? MEG Unify x570
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:14 No.103946124
>>103943702
damn anon you didnt have to kill him this hard
havent seen someone so fucking butthurt since Avatap guessing we should call the nvidia shill the new master of butthurt
damn anon you didnt have to kill him this hard
havent seen someone so fucking butthurt since Avatap guessing we should call the nvidia shill the new master of butthurt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:38 No.103946130
>>103946117
What a pathetic cope argument. Just admit that you have anything but nvidia syndrome.
What a pathetic cope argument. Just admit that you have anything but nvidia syndrome.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:48 No.103946134
>>103946110
> shittier version is ok
I don’t remember anyone saying that it’s similar to native or better
> shittier version is ok
I don’t remember anyone saying that it’s similar to native or better
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:58 No.103946135
>>103946130
what the hell is nvidia syndrome
what the hell is nvidia syndrome
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:38:15 No.103946141
>fg
No matter whether you're running DLSS3 FG or DLSS4 MFG, your base framerate has to be about the same. For controller games, ~50 FPS is the minimum base framerate. From there you can use DLSS FG or MFG to multiply the smoothness. MFG will of course be smoother, but in a lot of cases MFG will only be beneficial on a 240 Hz monitor. It's easy to hit nearly 144 FPS with x1 FG in most cases, even in demanding games.
For this reason the 5070 won't be nearly as good as the 4090 in heavy workloads like path tracing, as the 5070 will be too weak to get a high enough base framerate + input resolution to make MFG useful
>>103946073
Are you really that stupid? Neither GPU is being used to nearly its full potential. Both are CPU limited. It's a driver overhead benchmark
>>103946088
No it isn't, liar. Lossless has massively more latency (almost twice as much) and horribly worse image quality >>103944339. Get fucked, drone
No matter whether you're running DLSS3 FG or DLSS4 MFG, your base framerate has to be about the same. For controller games, ~50 FPS is the minimum base framerate. From there you can use DLSS FG or MFG to multiply the smoothness. MFG will of course be smoother, but in a lot of cases MFG will only be beneficial on a 240 Hz monitor. It's easy to hit nearly 144 FPS with x1 FG in most cases, even in demanding games.
For this reason the 5070 won't be nearly as good as the 4090 in heavy workloads like path tracing, as the 5070 will be too weak to get a high enough base framerate + input resolution to make MFG useful
>>103946073
Are you really that stupid? Neither GPU is being used to nearly its full potential. Both are CPU limited. It's a driver overhead benchmark
>>103946088
No it isn't, liar. Lossless has massively more latency (almost twice as much) and horribly worse image quality >>103944339. Get fucked, drone
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:38:59 No.103946149
>>103946123
Does CPU you want to get require new socket? No? Then why would you waste money
Unless you need wifi, more usb or higher speed usbs
Does CPU you want to get require new socket? No? Then why would you waste money
Unless you need wifi, more usb or higher speed usbs
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:40:57 No.103946172
>>103946135
It's a pretend disease that AMDrones pretend other people who buy better hardware have
Helps them cope
It's a pretend disease that AMDrones pretend other people who buy better hardware have
Helps them cope
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:41:01 No.103946174
I just want amd to hurry up and make fsr4 and their liquid diarrhea frame gen thing not fucking suck so these faggot amdrones can stop polluting discussion everywhere on the internet. Most insufferable hypocritical bunch of losers I have ever seen in my life.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:41:24 No.103946179
what is this bot spam here
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:42:19 No.103946189
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:43:51 No.103946209
there isn't a place for this on /g/ weirdly (aside from thinkpads but I need more than that) but what is a good source for good laptop reviews/what to buy?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:44:01 No.103946215
>>103946078
So the difference between a 5070 and a 5090 is irrelevant if we assume they both hit frame goals
Longevity is no longer possible with gpus, short upgrade windows is how they want you to build and its how it will work
Jensen literally said it at the start of the ces keynote, you wont have a choice
So the difference between a 5070 and a 5090 is irrelevant if we assume they both hit frame goals
Longevity is no longer possible with gpus, short upgrade windows is how they want you to build and its how it will work
Jensen literally said it at the start of the ces keynote, you wont have a choice
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:44:33 No.103946220
>>103946141
> Lossless has massively more latency (almost twice as much)
Nah, it’s the same thing, with dual GPU setup it could have even less latency
> horribly worse image quality
And nah, both Lossless and DLSS FG have about the same image quality >>103945148
DLSS FG and Losses are pretty much the same thing, you just got scammed, KEK
Also, don’t forget about >>103945795
> Lossless has massively more latency (almost twice as much)
Nah, it’s the same thing, with dual GPU setup it could have even less latency
> horribly worse image quality
And nah, both Lossless and DLSS FG have about the same image quality >>103945148
DLSS FG and Losses are pretty much the same thing, you just got scammed, KEK
Also, don’t forget about >>103945795
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:44:57 No.103946229
>>103946209
Just buy a middling Lenovo laptop and call it a day
Just buy a middling Lenovo laptop and call it a day
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:45:02 No.103946230
>>103946123
Depends on the CPU you're going for. What do you have now and what do you want to get?
Depends on the CPU you're going for. What do you have now and what do you want to get?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:47:15 No.103946256
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:47:34 No.103946259
>>103943788
Not just peak brightness, but overall luminance control.
Meta data will provides PQ EOTF data. In SDR basically the same colors have the same brightness no matter the position on the display.
Also LG C series owner are delusional. All C series TVs starting from the C2 use a 2nd gen WOLED panel, which can only display bright whites. Luminance of all other colors is low. Bright highlights on the LG C series pop out because it other colors can't be displayed with the correct brightness.
QD OLED displays should at least have the same peak brightness as the LG C series, wider color gamut and higher color volume.
LG TVs have great PQ EOTF tracking, but that's about it for the C series.
Not just peak brightness, but overall luminance control.
Meta data will provides PQ EOTF data. In SDR basically the same colors have the same brightness no matter the position on the display.
Also LG C series owner are delusional. All C series TVs starting from the C2 use a 2nd gen WOLED panel, which can only display bright whites. Luminance of all other colors is low. Bright highlights on the LG C series pop out because it other colors can't be displayed with the correct brightness.
QD OLED displays should at least have the same peak brightness as the LG C series, wider color gamut and higher color volume.
LG TVs have great PQ EOTF tracking, but that's about it for the C series.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:48:04 No.103946265
Hey look at me I can post images of tests that fit my narrative too
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:49:08 No.103946275
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:49:14 No.103946277
>>103946265
Thats user error, you cant use it
Thats user error, you cant use it
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:49:49 No.103946283
>>103946220
Where did this chart come from? Lossless devs?
>>103946265
I was about to post that
And don't forget, garbage in, garbage out
So if you upscale with FSR3 or worse, the FG will be even worse
Where did this chart come from? Lossless devs?
>>103946265
I was about to post that
And don't forget, garbage in, garbage out
So if you upscale with FSR3 or worse, the FG will be even worse
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:50:09 No.103946290
>>103946277
Uh huh, sure it is.
Uh huh, sure it is.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:50:42 No.103946296
>>103946189
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Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:50:55 No.103946300
>>103946172
When did amd driver overhead become larger than Nvidia? For a long time it was the other way around.
When did amd driver overhead become larger than Nvidia? For a long time it was the other way around.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:51:12 No.103946304
>>103946209
I would recommend checking sales on Lenovo, ASUS has been shitting the bed lately.
I would recommend checking sales on Lenovo, ASUS has been shitting the bed lately.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:51:48 No.103946311
>>103946300
>For a long time it was the other way around
It's always been this way. You were meme'd by AMDumboxed
>For a long time it was the other way around
It's always been this way. You were meme'd by AMDumboxed
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:52:24 No.103946315
>>103946300
Nvidia fixed all that shit in 2024. They’ve moved on to unsuccessfully attempting to fix dsc issues with their drivers for the past year.
Nvidia fixed all that shit in 2024. They’ve moved on to unsuccessfully attempting to fix dsc issues with their drivers for the past year.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:54:02 No.103946329
>>103946300
>>103946311
AMD is getting over 400-500+ fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DruK3ov2JvU
>>103946315
Nvidia still has massive driver issues with MPO, wddm issues, and more.
>>103946311
AMD is getting over 400-500+ fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dru
>>103946315
Nvidia still has massive driver issues with MPO, wddm issues, and more.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:55:01 No.103946342
>>103946329
All that shit is not nvidia’s problem. You should be bitching to Microsoft.
All that shit is not nvidia’s problem. You should be bitching to Microsoft.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:55:19 No.103946346
>>103945975
>>103945992
Legitimate delusion
There's a reason things like the Turing/Ampere xx60/xx50 cards are still popular
>>103945992
Legitimate delusion
There's a reason things like the Turing/Ampere xx60/xx50 cards are still popular
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:55:28 No.103946349
>>103946290
lsfg 3 is better than 2.1 and works universally so there's no point in showing 2.1 results anymore
lsfg 3 is better than 2.1 and works universally so there's no point in showing 2.1 results anymore
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:56:23 No.103946357
>>103946343
Nvidia 3rd worlder spends 24/7 on this thread posting cherry picked graphs and fabrications to market nvidia
He does it for free
Nvidia 3rd worlder spends 24/7 on this thread posting cherry picked graphs and fabrications to market nvidia
He does it for free
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:57:01 No.103946363
>>103946342
it is nvidias problem
they cant use proper non dsc 10 bit hdr or dxgi flip model or lsfg framgen because their mpos are broken
they get fps penalty from rebar because broken driver implementation
directstorage gpu decompression is broken on nvidia pic related
amd doesnt have this issue on windows or linux radv/amdvlk
it is nvidias problem
they cant use proper non dsc 10 bit hdr or dxgi flip model or lsfg framgen because their mpos are broken
they get fps penalty from rebar because broken driver implementation
directstorage gpu decompression is broken on nvidia pic related
amd doesnt have this issue on windows or linux radv/amdvlk
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:57:18 No.103946366
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:00:13 No.103946395
So uhh, the 5080 is just a 4080 with support for additional interpolated frames?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:01:06 No.103946412
>>103946329
>400 fps with fg
That's because Radeon hits CPU limit a 200 FPS >>103946172 and then uses FG to double the framerate
>>103946343
The only spam is yours, question mark boy. How many times are you going to spam the thread mentioning bot with a question mark? Shut the fuck up, bitch
>400 fps with fg
That's because Radeon hits CPU limit a 200 FPS >>103946172 and then uses FG to double the framerate
>>103946343
The only spam is yours, question mark boy. How many times are you going to spam the thread mentioning bot with a question mark? Shut the fuck up, bitch
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:01:13 No.103946414
>>103946311
In lol and bf3 my rx 460 would outdo my 980ti by like a massive margin at 720p (at the time I was autistically into framerate and latency so I just played everything at 540/720p). I vaguely recall seeing something about it still being an issue with pascal and turing.
I don't watch hardware unboxed
In lol and bf3 my rx 460 would outdo my 980ti by like a massive margin at 720p (at the time I was autistically into framerate and latency so I just played everything at 540/720p). I vaguely recall seeing something about it still being an issue with pascal and turing.
I don't watch hardware unboxed
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:04:27 No.103946440
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:11:44 No.103946504
Day 7 of asking for someone to leak nvidias r570 driver
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:12:17 No.103946509
>>103945560
just wait until next year, we'll probably get 3nm GPUs in 2026
just wait until next year, we'll probably get 3nm GPUs in 2026
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:13:18 No.103946515
>>103946504
I want to see the linux version because allegedly it will finally have multi-monitor VRR (coming soon for 8 years now)
I want to see the linux version because allegedly it will finally have multi-monitor VRR (coming soon for 8 years now)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:14:31 No.103946524
>>103946515
They can barely do multi monitor vrr in windows, don’t get your hopes up
They can barely do multi monitor vrr in windows, don’t get your hopes up
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:16:17 No.103946536
>>103946524
its always worked perfectly in windows
its always worked perfectly in windows
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:16:54 No.103946541
>>103946504
For real. I would love to get my hands on that and the new DLSS DLLs early. I'm interested in whether the older cards will see lesser performance with the new transformer model, and of course how much better it is. Doesn't matter if 540p now looks better than 4K native (spoiler: that's an exaggeration) if DLSS4 takes longer to compute than the base render.
>>103946509
Nvidia is accelerating its enterprise lineup but I doubt that will apply to the consumer gaming cards
For real. I would love to get my hands on that and the new DLSS DLLs early. I'm interested in whether the older cards will see lesser performance with the new transformer model, and of course how much better it is. Doesn't matter if 540p now looks better than 4K native (spoiler: that's an exaggeration) if DLSS4 takes longer to compute than the base render.
>>103946509
Nvidia is accelerating its enterprise lineup but I doubt that will apply to the consumer gaming cards
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:19:40 No.103946564
>>103946440
your picture shows the 290x doing slightly better relative to its maximum performance in a CPU-bound scenario compared to the 780 though
your picture shows the 290x doing slightly better relative to its maximum performance in a CPU-bound scenario compared to the 780 though
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:20:53 No.103946572
>>103946541
One of the nvidia reps said there will be a 5% performance hit with the new transformer model, but that's offset by the 10% frame gen boost
One of the nvidia reps said there will be a 5% performance hit with the new transformer model, but that's offset by the 10% frame gen boost
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:21:28 No.103946576
>>103946300
It’s 50/50 for a long time, sometime midrange amd gpu has better 1% than a 4090
It’s 50/50 for a long time, sometime midrange amd gpu has better 1% than a 4090
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:26:08 No.103946609
what is my best shot of getting 5090 astral on release? best buy? amazon? i dont live near a microcenter? do they sell it on their own website? redpill me
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:27:26 No.103946618
Do I even need this pc if all I do is watch anime and make music? I've been thinking about an ITX build for space.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:27:26 No.103946619
>>103946609
just don't
just don't
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:27:26 No.103946620
>>103946609
there's no chance of anybody on here getting a 5090 on release
there's no chance of anybody on here getting a 5090 on release
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:27:41 No.103946621
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:28:26 No.103946628
>>103946621
there is no chance that the 5090 FE has better cooling than any 3rd party one, also i like the look of the astral over most of the other ones, getting a FE is going to be next to impossible regardless
there is no chance that the 5090 FE has better cooling than any 3rd party one, also i like the look of the astral over most of the other ones, getting a FE is going to be next to impossible regardless
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:29:55 No.103946641
>>103946609
>i dont live near a microcenter?
Why is that even a question? Why do you talk like that? Don't you know where you live?
>i dont live near a microcenter?
Why is that even a question? Why do you talk like that? Don't you know where you live?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:30:08 No.103946642
>>103946564
I don't think you understand how to read the graph. The CPU limit is always lower on Radeon. Relative to the maximum performance is irrelevant and probably untrue, as IIRC the 290X was faster on average than the 780 if the 290X was given a blazing fast CPU and run at 1080p (aka higher GPU load).
>>103946572
5% is nothing, seems like a best case scenario, especially considering how few TOPs some of those old GPUs have. Not to sound like a luddite, but with FG, the base framerate is what matters because you need to achieve some base framerate for FG to work well. So imagine if there was a 50% penalty to base framerate but """"offset""" by +100% FG. It would suck because reaching that threshold got so much harder
I don't think you understand how to read the graph. The CPU limit is always lower on Radeon. Relative to the maximum performance is irrelevant and probably untrue, as IIRC the 290X was faster on average than the 780 if the 290X was given a blazing fast CPU and run at 1080p (aka higher GPU load).
>>103946572
5% is nothing, seems like a best case scenario, especially considering how few TOPs some of those old GPUs have. Not to sound like a luddite, but with FG, the base framerate is what matters because you need to achieve some base framerate for FG to work well. So imagine if there was a 50% penalty to base framerate but """"offset""" by +100% FG. It would suck because reaching that threshold got so much harder
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:32:18 No.103946659
>>103946609
there is no chance at all, just get what you can get
there is no chance at all, just get what you can get
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:33:46 No.103946666
>>103946659
okay thats great but last time they sold the 4090 version where did it sell? amazon? newegg? i dont care that its going to be hard to get everyone knows that im wondering where it will even be available for purchase as ive never bought anything on release before
okay thats great but last time they sold the 4090 version where did it sell? amazon? newegg? i dont care that its going to be hard to get everyone knows that im wondering where it will even be available for purchase as ive never bought anything on release before
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:34:24 No.103946669
>>103946642
>290X was faster on average than the 780
Only in Vulkan and DX12 titles, because the 290X supported async-compute and nvidia didn't add support for it until Turing. On DX9 and DX11 titles, the 780 trashed the 290X
>290X was faster on average than the 780
Only in Vulkan and DX12 titles, because the 290X supported async-compute and nvidia didn't add support for it until Turing. On DX9 and DX11 titles, the 780 trashed the 290X
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:34:59 No.103946675
>>103946666
i don't want to tell you son, i want a 5090 too
i don't want to tell you son, i want a 5090 too
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:35:02 No.103946677
>>103946666
nowhere lol. what aren't you getting about this anon? it will be immediately sold out everywhere, for like 6 months. the only way to get one will be via scalpers on ebay for like $4,000. that's not a joke or a meme. it's literally what happens every time.
nowhere lol. what aren't you getting about this anon? it will be immediately sold out everywhere, for like 6 months. the only way to get one will be via scalpers on ebay for like $4,000. that's not a joke or a meme. it's literally what happens every time.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:35:41 No.103946682
>>103946576
>all minimums are shit
>one of the most radeon favored games
>in beta
>a cherrypicked graph
Really you have no argument, as usual, cherrypicker. There are games where Geforce has a lower CPU limit, but CoD >>103946172 is not one
>all minimums are shit
>one of the most radeon favored games
>in beta
>a cherrypicked graph
Really you have no argument, as usual, cherrypicker. There are games where Geforce has a lower CPU limit, but CoD >>103946172 is not one
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:36:00 No.103946686
>>103946609
Leaks suggest 5090 supply will be non-existent on release. One retailer said they got like 20 5080 units and 0 5090, lmao
Leaks suggest 5090 supply will be non-existent on release. One retailer said they got like 20 5080 units and 0 5090, lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:37:51 No.103946703
>>103946669
>On DX9 and DX11 titles, the 780 trashed the 290X
Probably because of the driver, which was best overcome by an extremely strong singlethreaded CPU, and best hidden by a high resolution (to keep framerates low enough that the CPU limits couldn't be hit)
>On DX9 and DX11 titles, the 780 trashed the 290X
Probably because of the driver, which was best overcome by an extremely strong singlethreaded CPU, and best hidden by a high resolution (to keep framerates low enough that the CPU limits couldn't be hit)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:40:28 No.103946723
>>103946642 (me)
>>103946572
>new transformer model, but that's offset by the 10% frame gen boost
Also, just another note about this, all the old RTX cards get the new model, but they won't get FG, just Super Resolution. I'm most interested in how DLSS4 Super Res performs on say an RTX 3070, especially in conjunction with neural texture resolution which will presumably put more load on the tensor cores
>>103946572
>new transformer model, but that's offset by the 10% frame gen boost
Also, just another note about this, all the old RTX cards get the new model, but they won't get FG, just Super Resolution. I'm most interested in how DLSS4 Super Res performs on say an RTX 3070, especially in conjunction with neural texture resolution which will presumably put more load on the tensor cores
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:41:15 No.103946727
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:42:59 No.103946745
>>103943724
Except RT and AMD FrameGen works fine in Zogwarts Nvidiot.
Except RT and AMD FrameGen works fine in Zogwarts Nvidiot.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:43:17 No.103946748
>>103946666
nigger you literally aren't listening. Only scalpers and bots will get them. it's been like this for like 6 years now.
nigger you literally aren't listening. Only scalpers and bots will get them. it's been like this for like 6 years now.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:43:37 No.103946752
>>103946748
i am different
i am different
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:45:40 No.103946771
>>103946727
Ah yes, another Radeon sponsored outlier trash heap that didn't even run on Arc at launch. The only way to fix Starfield image quality is with DLSS. It has forced TAA otherwise, and resolution alone won't save you. The only way to get good image quality in Starfield is with DLSS
>>103946745
FSR FG is not in Hogwarts, and FSR Super Resolution is so bad that RT is unusable
Ah yes, another Radeon sponsored outlier trash heap that didn't even run on Arc at launch. The only way to fix Starfield image quality is with DLSS. It has forced TAA otherwise, and resolution alone won't save you. The only way to get good image quality in Starfield is with DLSS
>>103946745
FSR FG is not in Hogwarts, and FSR Super Resolution is so bad that RT is unusable
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:46:51 No.103946780
>>103946752
that's what a dozen anons say every release. then they inevitably don't get one, and come here to sulk and be buttblasted about it for a week straight, while spamming waitchad memes or claiming the GPU sucks anyway, or whatever other nonsense. just save /pcbg/ the trouble anon.
that's what a dozen anons say every release. then they inevitably don't get one, and come here to sulk and be buttblasted about it for a week straight, while spamming waitchad memes or claiming the GPU sucks anyway, or whatever other nonsense. just save /pcbg/ the trouble anon.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:47:36 No.103946790
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:48:11 No.103946799
>>103946780
well considering i dont really care about price i will just buy from stockx or some shit unless its literally double msrp. must suck to be a poorfag
well considering i dont really care about price i will just buy from stockx or some shit unless its literally double msrp. must suck to be a poorfag
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:49:34 No.103946814
>>103946799
it will literally be 2-3x MSRP
it will literally be 2-3x MSRP
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:49:41 No.103946818
>>103946703
>Probably because of the driver
Nope, thew 780 was a bigger die, with more transistors, and a slightly higher boost clock, The performance charts you're showing are representative of the performance between these two GPUs, not any driver bottleneck.
>Probably because of the driver
Nope, thew 780 was a bigger die, with more transistors, and a slightly higher boost clock, The performance charts you're showing are representative of the performance between these two GPUs, not any driver bottleneck.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:50:21 No.103946826
>>103946727
Now show me stable diffusion performance
Now show me stable diffusion performance
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:50:45 No.103946828
>had two corsair fans that began rattling/vibrating
>they been working for like 8 years now
>decided to just remove all 5 fans (2 on AIO, 3 on chassis) with 3 hawktua industrial 2000rpm fans
>2 on AIO sucking in, 1 exhaust
>PC went from dead silent (before 2 fans went bad) to a now constant hum
idk how I feel, I kinda liked the silent build but at least now the PC doesn't vibrate and rattle the whole desk at like 50 decibles
>they been working for like 8 years now
>decided to just remove all 5 fans (2 on AIO, 3 on chassis) with 3 hawktua industrial 2000rpm fans
>2 on AIO sucking in, 1 exhaust
>PC went from dead silent (before 2 fans went bad) to a now constant hum
idk how I feel, I kinda liked the silent build but at least now the PC doesn't vibrate and rattle the whole desk at like 50 decibles
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:52:34 No.103946843
>>103946727
>dlss/fsr enabled
Lmao
That's like buying premium card and playing on medium settings
>inb4 aislop is much better than medium settings!
Still shit
>dlss/fsr enabled
Lmao
That's like buying premium card and playing on medium settings
>inb4 aislop is much better than medium settings!
Still shit
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:52:45 No.103946845
>>103946828
case fans arent audible at all with closed headphones
case fans arent audible at all with closed headphones
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:54:38 No.103946870
Did I get berensteined or is google trolling me?
A couple years ago I tried OC/UV and encountered a situation when seemingly stable settings reduced performance (internal error correction) , and that effect had some concise searchable name and formal definition.
Now I can't remember nor find that name, just vague references that yes shit sometimes happens.
A couple years ago I tried OC/UV and encountered a situation when seemingly stable settings reduced performance (internal error correction) , and that effect had some concise searchable name and formal definition.
Now I can't remember nor find that name, just vague references that yes shit sometimes happens.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:54:41 No.103946874
>>103946790
>you can just turn on FrameGen in Adrenalin
AFMF2 is straight garbage, high latency and very low image quality, approximately similar to Lossless. Also disables itself if you move the mouse too fast, which is extremely jarring. I'll accept XeSS, but keep in mind that there could be a performance penalty (there often is on Radeon) and Radeon has to use the lower quality dp4a path, not the XMX path that Arc uses
>>103946818
You're not reading the graph correctly. If the Radeon card wasn't adding driver overhead, the CPU limited performance with the weak CPUs would be the same between Radeon and Geforce
>you can just turn on FrameGen in Adrenalin
AFMF2 is straight garbage, high latency and very low image quality, approximately similar to Lossless. Also disables itself if you move the mouse too fast, which is extremely jarring. I'll accept XeSS, but keep in mind that there could be a performance penalty (there often is on Radeon) and Radeon has to use the lower quality dp4a path, not the XMX path that Arc uses
>>103946818
You're not reading the graph correctly. If the Radeon card wasn't adding driver overhead, the CPU limited performance with the weak CPUs would be the same between Radeon and Geforce
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:55:20 No.103946880
>>103946771
> It has forced TAA otherwise
In 99% of games TAA can be edited via config to get the best image quality at 4k native instead of dlss image quality reduction at 1440p, KEK
> It has forced TAA otherwise
In 99% of games TAA can be edited via config to get the best image quality at 4k native instead of dlss image quality reduction at 1440p, KEK
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:56:04 No.103946889
>>103946845
bro... your ear cheese?
bro... your ear cheese?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:56:32 No.103946894
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intels-arrow-lake-fix-doesnt-fix-overall-gaming-performance-or-correct-the-companys-bad-marketing-claims-core-ultra-200s-still-trails-amd-and-previous-gen-chips
>Our testing shows that Intel’s fix for its Arrow Lake chips isn’t effective in addressing the chips’ lackluster gaming performance, at least on the motherboards we tested with. And we found that the Core Ultra 9 285K’s updated gaming performance with one motherboard is now slightly slower than before. Additionally, the required operating system update has improved gaming performance for the prior-gen Raptor Lake Refresh even more than the Arrow Lake chips, so the flagship Core Ultra 9 285K falls even further behind its predecessor.
This reminds me of how AMD promised to work with Microsoft to fix Zen 5% performance on Windows and the improvements ended up helping all Zen 4 chips too making the lackluster relative uplift the same as before the patches.
>Our testing shows that Intel’s fix for its Arrow Lake chips isn’t effective in addressing the chips’ lackluster gaming performance, at least on the motherboards we tested with. And we found that the Core Ultra 9 285K’s updated gaming performance with one motherboard is now slightly slower than before. Additionally, the required operating system update has improved gaming performance for the prior-gen Raptor Lake Refresh even more than the Arrow Lake chips, so the flagship Core Ultra 9 285K falls even further behind its predecessor.
This reminds me of how AMD promised to work with Microsoft to fix Zen 5% performance on Windows and the improvements ended up helping all Zen 4 chips too making the lackluster relative uplift the same as before the patches.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:57:13 No.103946899
Which websites do you guys trust to buy hardware from?
I have a Micro Center but it doesn't have a specific piece of hardware I'm looking for.
I have a Micro Center but it doesn't have a specific piece of hardware I'm looking for.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:58:31 No.103946910
>>103946870
You're probably thinking of clock stretching
>>103946880
>monstrous zoom
OK but let's be reasonable here
True native is basically never better than TAA even at 4K unless the TAA is extremely flawed
Disabling TAA usually brings massively image quality errors with it
You're probably thinking of clock stretching
>>103946880
>monstrous zoom
OK but let's be reasonable here
True native is basically never better than TAA even at 4K unless the TAA is extremely flawed
Disabling TAA usually brings massively image quality errors with it
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:00:02 No.103946936
>>103946899
They should all be fine as long as you use a credit card to make the purchase which gives you buyer protection in the transaction. But Amazon, Newegg, B&H Photo, Best Buy, etc. all come to mind.
They should all be fine as long as you use a credit card to make the purchase which gives you buyer protection in the transaction. But Amazon, Newegg, B&H Photo, Best Buy, etc. all come to mind.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:01:59 No.103946958
>>103946889
what kinda hentai have you been reading
what kinda hentai have you been reading
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:02:09 No.103946962
>>103946910
It’s always better, temporal only helps with poorly implemented effects and edges, image quality always suffers compared to native with any temporal technology
It’s always better, temporal only helps with poorly implemented effects and edges, image quality always suffers compared to native with any temporal technology
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:03:04 No.103946971
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:03:31 No.103946978
Six days on Intel ARC. Team Blue Power.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:05:40 No.103947000
>>103946899
Do you live in United States? And still cant trust sellers?
Do you live in United States? And still cant trust sellers?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:05:44 No.103947003
>>103946609
Give a bj to some Microcenter manager and he'll save one box for you, worked with the 4090 launch.
Give a bj to some Microcenter manager and he'll save one box for you, worked with the 4090 launch.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:05:57 No.103947009
>>103946978
im so lonely
im so lonely
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:06:35 No.103947014
>>103946799
must suck to be a fucking dumbass faggot too
must suck to be a fucking dumbass faggot too
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:09:08 No.103947033
>>103946978
Calling it "power" is a stretch. More like "team blue impotence" lmao
Calling it "power" is a stretch. More like "team blue impotence" lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:10:01 No.103947044
>>103946962
There's almost no current game that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
>image quality always suffers
You say this but it's always a balance
Pros and cons
Native and previous AA methods are usually worse than TAA
I like SMAA for games like Civilization but for anything approaching action (even a game like BG3) it's garbage
There's almost no current game that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
>image quality always suffers
You say this but it's always a balance
Pros and cons
Native and previous AA methods are usually worse than TAA
I like SMAA for games like Civilization but for anything approaching action (even a game like BG3) it's garbage
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:18:45 No.103947122
Why is everyone taking a random forum post about Germany 50 series stock as the gospel and claiming 50 series won't be in stock anywhere?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:20:13 No.103947142
>>103947122
Because it aligns with their bias of NVIDIA BAD
Because it aligns with their bias of NVIDIA BAD
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:26:04 No.103947208
>>103947044
> that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
Games with such issue rely on temporal technologies to fix undersampling, that isn’t the issue of native res itself
> Pros and cons
The only benefit of TAA is to fix undersampling which can be properly rendered instead, overall image quality is always worse compared to native, with your own webm you can see that on the bottom right the pattern on the roof of the red car looks way worse.
> that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
Games with such issue rely on temporal technologies to fix undersampling, that isn’t the issue of native res itself
> Pros and cons
The only benefit of TAA is to fix undersampling which can be properly rendered instead, overall image quality is always worse compared to native, with your own webm you can see that on the bottom right the pattern on the roof of the red car looks way worse.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:26:31 No.103947211
>>103947122
read, it's not just EU distributors, the implication is that it's NA as well
don't even bother trying if you don't have a bot/script and aren't in with scalper groups, you simply aren't gonna get one. human reaction time isn't gonna cut it, it's all gonna be gone in seconds faster than you can humanly click through the process
read, it's not just EU distributors, the implication is that it's NA as well
don't even bother trying if you don't have a bot/script and aren't in with scalper groups, you simply aren't gonna get one. human reaction time isn't gonna cut it, it's all gonna be gone in seconds faster than you can humanly click through the process
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:27:15 No.103947219
>>103947044
>There's almost no current game that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
I guess you have a different definition of correctness than I do, the way I see it, the only "correct" ways to display an image are with no AA or with SSAA, every other form of AA adds some kind of distortion. MSAA was the best compromise between performance and distortion.
>There's almost no current game that will correctly render hair or foliage without TAA
I guess you have a different definition of correctness than I do, the way I see it, the only "correct" ways to display an image are with no AA or with SSAA, every other form of AA adds some kind of distortion. MSAA was the best compromise between performance and distortion.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:31:37 No.103947259
>>103947122
Multiple sources from EU, nvidia and NA says 5080 will have less supply than 4080 had and 5090 will be extremely rare.
Source? Moore's law sources, kek
But he wasn't wrong for awhile...
Multiple sources from EU, nvidia and NA says 5080 will have less supply than 4080 had and 5090 will be extremely rare.
Source? Moore's law sources, kek
But he wasn't wrong for awhile...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:33:32 No.103947275
Are there actual paid shills in these threads or are people just completely obsessed with their team?
t. someone who doesn't frequent /pcbg/
t. someone who doesn't frequent /pcbg/
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:34:37 No.103947285
>>103947275
People love to belong to a group. Makes them feel less lonely, I guess. I just buy whichever brand has better HW.
People love to belong to a group. Makes them feel less lonely, I guess. I just buy whichever brand has better HW.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:38:01 No.103947314
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:40:46 No.103947341
>>103947259
And it's rather plausible.
And it's rather plausible.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:41:13 No.103947346
>>103947275
I shill AMD for free because I had one bad experience with nvidia 20 years ago.
I shill AMD for free because I had one bad experience with nvidia 20 years ago.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:41:53 No.103947352
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:42:29 No.103947357
>>103946828
I switched from noctua (nf-a14) to another brand because the low hum annoyed the hell out of me, especially because my case filters out high frequencies really well but not low ones.
They may be quiet but if you don't like low frequencies, the fans are shit.
I switched from noctua (nf-a14) to another brand because the low hum annoyed the hell out of me, especially because my case filters out high frequencies really well but not low ones.
They may be quiet but if you don't like low frequencies, the fans are shit.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:43:02 No.103947366
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:44:33 No.103947380
>>103947346
I was the opposite but Ryzen cleaned my palette.
I was the opposite but Ryzen cleaned my palette.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:44:55 No.103947385
>>103947122
They deliberately wait for Trump tariffs to kick in before bringing the cards to market.
They deliberately wait for Trump tariffs to kick in before bringing the cards to market.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:45:57 No.103947394
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:48:51 No.103947420
>>103946395
Basically yes.
Basically yes.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:50:34 No.103947435
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:53:15 No.103947453
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:53:21 No.103947456
>>103947435
You could sell 4090 for a premium and buy 5090 for the money. And probably do the same 2 years later when 6090 comes out...
You could sell 4090 for a premium and buy 5090 for the money. And probably do the same 2 years later when 6090 comes out...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:57:48 No.103947489
>>103946978
Holy BBBBBCB (Bubble Butt Built for Big Black Cock Body)
Holy BBBBBCB (Bubble Butt Built for Big Black Cock Body)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:57:51 No.103947490
>>103946978
someone have the webm of lady saying women cant look like that and mommy Lynda is like look at me
someone have the webm of lady saying women cant look like that and mommy Lynda is like look at me
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:05:20 No.103947553
HWInfo says my 9800X3D idles at 41c. That's apparently 108f but my room is no more than 73f. I have a Liquid Freezer III cooler so I expected an idle temperature closer to my ambient temperature. Is that not a correct expectation?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:08:46 No.103947579
>>103947435
A smart man
Fortunately for me there are plenty of retards who are scrambling to put 5090 money together before they release
A smart man
Fortunately for me there are plenty of retards who are scrambling to put 5090 money together before they release
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:09:37 No.103947589
>>103947456
>And probably do the same 2 years later when 6090 comes out...
don't think the 5090 will have the same effect.
it sucks and is way too expensive for most people to afford. the 4090 was okish price wise.
But the 5090 is too expensive for too little improvement over past gen only the 32gb vram may make it interesting for ai slop
>And probably do the same 2 years later when 6090 comes out...
don't think the 5090 will have the same effect.
it sucks and is way too expensive for most people to afford. the 4090 was okish price wise.
But the 5090 is too expensive for too little improvement over past gen only the 32gb vram may make it interesting for ai slop
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:12:13 No.103947605
Nvidia just said that 80% of people with RTX cards have used DLSS, but I'd like to know what percentage of 40 series owners consistently use Frame Gen.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:17:19 No.103947663
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:18:02 No.103947671
>>103947663
What frames are you getting without it turned on?
What frames are you getting without it turned on?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:19:52 No.103947685
>>103947671
not enough obviously
not enough obviously
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:20:42 No.103947696
>>103947685
i ask because you need 60fps minimum for FG to not be retarded.
i ask because you need 60fps minimum for FG to not be retarded.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:24:41 No.103947736
Why is AMD not putting out details or prices if the cards are coming out on Monday?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:24:48 No.103947738
>>103947696
75 off 140 on
75 off 140 on
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:25:37 No.103947752
>>103947736
It's a surprise :^)
It's a surprise :^)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:26:03 No.103947759
>>103947736
if nvidia did something like this what would you say?
if nvidia did something like this what would you say?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:26:44 No.103947768
>>103947759
"Why is Nvidia not putting out details or prices if the cards are coming out on Monday?"
"Why is Nvidia not putting out details or prices if the cards are coming out on Monday?"
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:26:55 No.103947771
>>103947605
I have a 40 series and use it in some games but not a ton. Contrary to the nvidia shills sucking cock there's not as many games using the full features of the card as they'd like you to believe.....
I have a 40 series and use it in some games but not a ton. Contrary to the nvidia shills sucking cock there's not as many games using the full features of the card as they'd like you to believe.....
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:28:50 No.103947791
if you don't have a high refresh rate monitor there is no real reason to use frame gen. however if you have a 4090 and not a high refresh rate monitor you're just retarded anyway.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:29:10 No.103947795
>>103947771
i think most people buy nvidia for AI porn and stuff like that lol
i think most people buy nvidia for AI porn and stuff like that lol
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:29:45 No.103947801
Inside source here, I work very close with most international and US brick and mortar and online retailers.
Things aren't looking good guys..... the 50 series gpus are looking to be a crapshoot. Most of the guys I know are saying they MIGHT get 1 or 2 cards max and that it's actually worse than Covid.
Might as well give up on even trying guys.
Apparently Nvidia stopped 50 series production to start working on the 60 series already baka.
Things aren't looking good guys..... the 50 series gpus are looking to be a crapshoot. Most of the guys I know are saying they MIGHT get 1 or 2 cards max and that it's actually worse than Covid.
Might as well give up on even trying guys.
Apparently Nvidia stopped 50 series production to start working on the 60 series already baka.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:29:52 No.103947803
>>103947553
That't most likely normal. My 7800X3D idles at around 45-50 degrees with an LS720, 9800X3D should be fairly similar.
That't most likely normal. My 7800X3D idles at around 45-50 degrees with an LS720, 9800X3D should be fairly similar.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:31:23 No.103947819
>>103947553
Idle temp will depend on your steady state water temp at whatever idle fan speed you have
I also have a 9800x3d with a sensor on my LF3 360, 50% fan speed will maintain about 24-25 C water temperature with 20-22 C ambient, CPU will idle in bios at about 30-31 C, temperature delta seems like a relatively consistent 6 C with the pump at 1250 RPM
Idle temp will depend on your steady state water temp at whatever idle fan speed you have
I also have a 9800x3d with a sensor on my LF3 360, 50% fan speed will maintain about 24-25 C water temperature with 20-22 C ambient, CPU will idle in bios at about 30-31 C, temperature delta seems like a relatively consistent 6 C with the pump at 1250 RPM
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:32:53 No.103947836
>>103947771
Yeah it's weird seeing them pull 0-player moviegame benchmarks from Russian websites. Dirty job but someone's got to do it.
Yeah it's weird seeing them pull 0-player moviegame benchmarks from Russian websites. Dirty job but someone's got to do it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:33:21 No.103947837
>>103947553
Doesn't seem right. I'm using a Phantom Spirit 120 EVO with Thermalright Heilos (similar to PTM7950).
My room's ambient temp is ~21C and pic related is at idle with nothing going on except HWiNFO. I do have my 9800X3D set to CO -30 though.
Doesn't seem right. I'm using a Phantom Spirit 120 EVO with Thermalright Heilos (similar to PTM7950).
My room's ambient temp is ~21C and pic related is at idle with nothing going on except HWiNFO. I do have my 9800X3D set to CO -30 though.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:34:53 No.103947856
Is my RAM configured wrong? It's 6000 MT/s speed. This is what HWinfo shows.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:37:54 No.103947889
>>103947837
Oh yeah that's another factor, >>103947819 here running -30 CO and 1.20v SOC
>>103947856
You are running at 3000MHz so that is the correct 6000MT/s speed
Oh yeah that's another factor, >>103947819 here running -30 CO and 1.20v SOC
>>103947856
You are running at 3000MHz so that is the correct 6000MT/s speed
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:41:09 No.103947917
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:41:53 No.103947921
>>103947795
that's 100% what I use mine for
that's 100% what I use mine for
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:42:53 No.103947937
>>103947856
yep that's correct speed for 6000
yep that's correct speed for 6000
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:44:02 No.103947948
>>103947917
>CO -30
Curve Optimizer set to -30 for all cores, i.e. undervolting 30mv all cores
You can change this and SOC voltage in the BIOS but you'll want to do stability testing afterwards
>CO -30
Curve Optimizer set to -30 for all cores, i.e. undervolting 30mv all cores
You can change this and SOC voltage in the BIOS but you'll want to do stability testing afterwards
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:44:21 No.103947953
>>103947801
Unironically, I work at retail and we already have a box of 9070/9070xt but I have yet to see any 50 series. Granted we're in the middle of nowhere so maybe the company is saving them for the big cities.
Unironically, I work at retail and we already have a box of 9070/9070xt but I have yet to see any 50 series. Granted we're in the middle of nowhere so maybe the company is saving them for the big cities.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:46:29 No.103947985
>>103947917
CO is curve optimizer, a PBO setting in BIOS. Negative values mean undervolting, the stability of your chip when undervolting is not guaranteed.
SOC voltage is typically set automatically by your motherboard and the amount you need is determined mostly by your RAM speed. If you are running DDR5 6000 you are probably at or below 1.2v already, though some bioses may crank it to like 1.25v
CO is curve optimizer, a PBO setting in BIOS. Negative values mean undervolting, the stability of your chip when undervolting is not guaranteed.
SOC voltage is typically set automatically by your motherboard and the amount you need is determined mostly by your RAM speed. If you are running DDR5 6000 you are probably at or below 1.2v already, though some bioses may crank it to like 1.25v
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:47:56 No.103948001
wow, I thought I'd have to get a 5700X3D to get 180+fps in CS2 (with 2080ti at 3440x1440) but the 3600X gives me 175-220.
thoughbeit frametimes aren't that great, mostly maxing out around 7-8.5ms which is right around 120fps so that's okay I guess
btw I need a case for my nigger rigged PC, thought about getting an O11 Dynamic EVO + mesh front panel?
I built a PC for my brother in an O11 Vision a few months ago and I really liked it - very spacious especially on the backside/for cable management, great airflow (for a 3x glass case), option of 240mm rad in the back, great build quality, etc.
thoughbeit frametimes aren't that great, mostly maxing out around 7-8.5ms which is right around 120fps so that's okay I guess
btw I need a case for my nigger rigged PC, thought about getting an O11 Dynamic EVO + mesh front panel?
I built a PC for my brother in an O11 Vision a few months ago and I really liked it - very spacious especially on the backside/for cable management, great airflow (for a 3x glass case), option of 240mm rad in the back, great build quality, etc.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:51:05 No.103948034
>>103948001
>I thought I'd have to get a 5700X3D to get 180+fps in CS2
What made you think that? Valve games in general are quite well optimized.
>I thought I'd have to get a 5700X3D to get 180+fps in CS2
What made you think that? Valve games in general are quite well optimized.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:51:08 No.103948035
>>103947953
it's time to start leaking, retailbro
it's time to start leaking, retailbro
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:53:32 No.103948058
2.5 Gigabytes of memory??? It's set to have all the RGB be turned off!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:54:14 No.103948069
>>103948058
did you buy ram to look at it or use it?
did you buy ram to look at it or use it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:54:15 No.103948070
>>103948001
CS2 is one of the easiest games to run, it's like league, you can run that shit on anything
CS2 is one of the easiest games to run, it's like league, you can run that shit on anything
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:55:54 No.103948082
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:56:58 No.103948093
>>103948082
>OpenRGB
That shit literally doesn't work. It can't detect half the shit in the computer and it has one of the least user-friendly interfaces I've ever encountered. Another fucking FOSS flop.
>OpenRGB
That shit literally doesn't work. It can't detect half the shit in the computer and it has one of the least user-friendly interfaces I've ever encountered. Another fucking FOSS flop.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:59:20 No.103948110
>>103948093
new motherboard these days support windows dynamic lighting so you can customize your rgbt directly in settings
new motherboard these days support windows dynamic lighting so you can customize your rgbt directly in settings
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:59:23 No.103948111
>>103948058
the nset it to turn rgb off and close it retardo..
the nset it to turn rgb off and close it retardo..
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:00:15 No.103948117
>>103947736
I thought they weren't out until Thursday.
I thought they weren't out until Thursday.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:01:32 No.103948137
>>103947736
We dont even know the price of 9950x3d even though they announced it 2 weeks ago
We dont even know the price of 9950x3d even though they announced it 2 weeks ago
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:01:43 No.103948143
It's actually so fucking bad bros. I just counted and there were at least 26 posts over the course of this 300 reply thread by the nvidishill which is 8.67% of the posts. Since I probably missed some it's quite possible it's actually over 10 percent of the posts. We need a filter or something because the mods clearly don't care.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:04:26 No.103948175
>>103948143
>nvidishill
>literally just stating facts
Why would anyone choose a substandard product over quality products? AMD is over in the GPU market.
>nvidishill
>literally just stating facts
Why would anyone choose a substandard product over quality products? AMD is over in the GPU market.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:05:31 No.103948184
>>103947736
Well if that wasn't bad enough stealing NVIDIA's naming should tell you all you need to know.
Well if that wasn't bad enough stealing NVIDIA's naming should tell you all you need to know.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:06:44 No.103948196
>>103948143
it's so fucking annoying man. The guy is mentally ill. There's always some faggot shitting up every thread on 4chan. There's always that 1 guy on the thread.
it's so fucking annoying man. The guy is mentally ill. There's always some faggot shitting up every thread on 4chan. There's always that 1 guy on the thread.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:07:32 No.103948208
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:15:30 No.103948306
>>103948175
Still gonna buy 9070 XT
Still gonna buy 9070 XT
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:31:21 No.103948443
>>103947953
Confirmed 50 series DOA.
Pack it up boys, better not see any of you in line at MicroCenter.
Confirmed 50 series DOA.
Pack it up boys, better not see any of you in line at MicroCenter.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:40:45 No.103948540
>>103948143
Mods don't do shit because if they actually cleaned this place you'd see the posting go down significantly and the chink owner probably needs to show high posts/minute metrics to get more money out of advertisers.
Mods don't do shit because if they actually cleaned this place you'd see the posting go down significantly and the chink owner probably needs to show high posts/minute metrics to get more money out of advertisers.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:03:55 No.103950456
>>103943287
Will I regret not buying the 100 fake frame 5090?
Will I regret not buying the 100 fake frame 5090?