/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops

>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL

>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Perv: >>103943287
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:09:15 No.103948229
Absolutely stupid question.
Are there still PC cases designed to be horizontal (i.e. peripherals being properly oriented)?
I don't get it why there was the motion to make them vertical towers.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:12:31 No.103948269
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>>103948070
I supposed they bloated it with Source 2, but figures since I used to get 120fps locked at 4K with a 3600X+1080ti.
other than the RGB shit, pic related is my brother's PC, the only build I've done in my life that I'm actually proud of (I live in eastern Europe so most builds I've done over the years were low to mid-end PCs)
I was very surprised to find the 7700X running so hot on a 360x38mm CLC
>>103948229
yes
I mean, it doesn't have to be specifically a desktop case, you can just stick rubber feet on any case
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:12:53 No.103948274
>>103948204
Why is the figure not inside the pc
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:13:29 No.103948279
>>103948229
There are horizontal builds but they have shit airflow. Also, I'd guess they are better for modern tables space optimization, specially with gaming builds.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:13:41 No.103948281
>>103948229
>I don't get it why there was the motion to make them vertical towers.
Because it stopped making sense to put stuff on top of them, and when that happened, it made more sense to make them take less horizontal space.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:14:22 No.103948290
>>103948274
Because the figure came out of the closet.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:14:58 No.103948299
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:15:25 No.103948304
i'm not the nvidiashill but you can't just sit here spewing misinformation about nvidia cards 24/7 and expect to get away with it.

the nvidiashill exists because there are amdrones that are equally annoying
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:17:50 No.103948328
6020ab8a-9b3d-436b-a6db-e7e2881d734e.538b940d92ebce381584280942ed4d22
>>103948269
I wanted to add that I think this case has no obvious cons other than having a filter only on the bottom fans + top front panel replacement has the ports centered in the middle instead of being in front
the Dynamic EVO has a bit less customization options like low/high motherboard but it gets the aftermarket mesh panel
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:23:02 No.103948382
>>103948204
is that a stinkpad
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:24:07 No.103948393
>>103948304
>it's not me guys I swear
(You)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:24:43 No.103948397
>>103948393
everyone you don't like is always the same person right, forgot 4chan's most important rule
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:27:37 No.103948415
>>103948304
Lets say someone wants to play witcher 3 and portal rtx with RT enabled. What gpu with 1k € limit would you rec to buy
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:30:00 No.103948435
1724533056334889
Nigger you did this the other day no one is falling for it this time either, how the fuck do you expect anyone to believe you when you always give compliments to yourself as this "3rd party" persona you've came up with, in attempt to mask your terrible posts and opinions.

Anyone can look in the achirve, please just end your miserable life already.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:34:20 No.103948483
Asus Ap201 case (used) arrived. There's no going back now. Came with everything and only 2 or 3 tiny tiny scratches or marks
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:35:16 No.103948492
1557072417010
>>103948204
Does AMD's 9000 series CPUs have Microsoft's Pluton? Couldn't find anything online.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:39:20 No.103948528
>>103948415
double it to 2k and get the 5090
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:39:27 No.103948531
>>103948304
As a tech illiterate, I feel like both sides have good arguments, which means only one thing: modern GPUs are fucked, frame gen is shit, and AAA game devs should be hanged.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:44:15 No.103948580
>>103948492
Anything after 5000 series has it, and before you schizo out it's irrelevant to you unless you work for a company and are using a company PC.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:45:17 No.103948594
>>103948531
The real enemy are the lazy devs and companies right now honestly
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:51:33 No.103948653
>>103948580
I've read that it messes up with pirated programs and games. Is this true?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:52:38 No.103948662
>>103948304
nvidia and amd work together to keep gpu prices high
pretending they are competitors is deceptive
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:00:36 No.103948752
>>103948594
>lazy devs
i blame it 80-90% on the companies cheaping out and having moronic market research and project planning. devs seem to be cheaper, more numerous and work more hours than ever
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:07:36 No.103948817
>>103948594
The funny part is that even the bad PC ports are unironically way better now than they used to be.
Go back far enough and you'll find games that can't even go over 1080p, don't have mouse and keyboard support, don't have proper controller support, have hard 30 or 60 fps framerate caps, and have all kinds of stupid quirks like games not working because you have too many CPU cores. Steam didn't even have a refund system back then so if you bought a buggy broken game you were stuck with it and Valve would tell you to go fuck yourself unless it was a Batman Arkham Knight/Brink situation.

Shoutouts to all the shitty porting studios like Gearbox and Sourcenext who managed to take really good games and make them fucking dreadful and almost unplayable on PC.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:12:51 No.103948866
>>103948204
Based OP pic
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:14:15 No.103948881
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:15:41 No.103948897
>>103948204
post pape
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:16:41 No.103948907
Screenshot 2025-01-18 at 12-22-49 Amazing AMD Bundle Deals Micro Center
>>103948204
If this deal is still available after a month or at when 50 series/ 9070 benchmark comes out, which one is the go-to one? My requirements are 95% gaming/ 5% casual JAV porn usage. This will be my first PC, I feel like the third option is brain-dead when the mobo cost more than the CPU but is nice looking with its error code display and design. Also, tis he $10 upgrade for a corsair RAM worth it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:18:44 No.103948925
Is the 9070XT worth it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:19:05 No.103948932
Should I get a 32GR93U for $650? I want to try a 32'' 4K monitor, and my experience with a 27GL850 has been pretty positive so I'm kind of thinking about just going for it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:19:29 No.103948937
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>>103948817
>have hard 60 fps framerate caps
Blocks your path. They can't even figure how to unlock anything over 60 in a competitive multiplayer.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:25:20 No.103948986
>>103948907
The first one if you're just gonna be gaming and gooning, you have no use for the extra features on the more expensive ones, and the "upgrade" to corsair Rlgbt RAM is only worth it if you want your PC to be lit up like a Vegas whorehouse
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:28:03 No.103949015
I want to get a GPU before the economy gets gay. I have a 3070 and run a 5140x1440p monitor; not ideal. What are the odds I can actually get a 5080 on release? Perhaps I should snag a 4070 now and then try to get a 5070 when it releases?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:29:51 No.103949031
>>103949015
>Perhaps I should snag a 4070 now and then try to get a 5070 when it releases?
No. That would be a last ditch backup plan. Might as well just get a 5080 if you are going to throw money around.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:31:23 No.103949044
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:32:40 No.103949059
>>103949015
I'd go for a 5070ti,. hopefully you can get one on release day.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:33:49 No.103949072
>>103948937
I've seen other online racing games do this too because higher framerates give people a measurable advantage, shit sucks and I avoid those games because of that.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:43:34 No.103949150
>>103949059
>Hopefully you can get a 50-series on release day
Lol
Lmao

Stocks are going to be even worse than the 30 series.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:45:08 No.103949164
>>103949059
>>103949150
multiple retailer insiders have confirmed the 50 stock is going to be nonexistent, the best move will probably be to wait for the Supers or snag one when the inventory comes back, you won't see realistic inventory until probably Q2 or Q3.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:53:01 No.103949229
1737247965447
I waited for almost a year for 50 series, I can wait few more months.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:54:20 No.103949247
>>103949229
9950x3d will be out by then as well. I'm gonna wait and see the pricing around March-April
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:54:38 No.103949249
>>103949164
>wagies posting picture after picture of their store receiving 9070s already
>YouTubers already have them and are probably benchmarking them as we speak
>AMD hasn't even done an official announcement for them
>nvidia does a big reveal of 50 series
>engineers go on the usual social media tour hyping them up
>videos about the architecture, new cooler, performance, new features
>stores reporting they have no stock
Kek, this fucking release cycle is a shit show. Oh and almost forgot about Intel paper launching 2 super great poorfag GPUs just so youtubers will tell everyone that Arc is now good and to buy it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:56:04 No.103949266
>>103948907
am I reading this right? 300 more just for a better motherboard?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:02:26 No.103949320
>>103949249
yea this shit sucks man. I miss when companies actually beefed their production and shit was actually in stock. I hate this post COVID bullshit shit ass world. Everything is worse. I miss being able to just go to a store and click buy.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:02:36 No.103949322
>>103949266
Yes you are
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:03:32 No.103949334
>>103948925
>Is the 9070XT worth it?
$800? probably not
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:04:12 No.103949340
>>103948925
No better deal for 30 cents.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:06:00 No.103949359
>>103948925
Well first we need to see performance benchmarks and price then we can say whether it's worth it or not.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:06:11 No.103949361
>>103949266
>it's le republic of gaymers tho!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:11:26 No.103949403
Upgrading from a 6700k on a Hyper 212+ and a 1060 6gb in a Fractal R4. Was thinking of going for a 9800X3D and 5070 TI when it comes out. I hate noise/dust due to carpet in my room and don't want to fuck around with water cooling/AIO leaks and radiators, I also hate my PC turning my room into an inferno like a space heater. The 9800x3d sounds like it runs stupidly hot and is prone to throttling on air coolers and especially in noise insulating cases which I don't think anyone buys anymore. Do I just have to suck this dick and either get a good airflow case on a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE to make it work? I'm not spending $150+ on a tower cooler that blocks M2 slots either.

Is there a step down from the 9800X3D for gaming that has good performance but much better air cooled temps? I'm many generations out of the loop and their site looks like shit on the specs/benchmarks.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:12:40 No.103949411
>>103949403
get the 9800x3d bundle on micro center for 699 and get a 90 dollar arctic liquid freezer III and a 5070Ti
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:13:44 No.103949422
>>103949411
>I don't want an AIO
>get an AIO
OK skip another generation time.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:14:04 No.103949426
1605238521603
Where are the damn video cards
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:14:35 No.103949429
a3246f2e863d7086077c3d969b5810b7-4017951204
>>103948986
Vegas whorehouse can't be that bad, also what are these extra features that make it cost couple hundred more? I understand that one of them is >republic of gaymers and cost that much.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:15:01 No.103949433
>>103948907
I've never seen a compelling argument for X870 boards. They just don't seem worth it at all.
As for those other two MoBos they honestly seem pretty similar. Really the main difference I can see is that the MSI board has S/PDIF out port and generally better sound infrastructure which might make it a better choice if you're an audiophile or musician or something. The MSI also has better USB ports but honestly I don't think that matters too much since most of the USB going into the back of your PC will be keyboards, mice, peripherals, and such that don't really benefit from higher theoretical speeds.

https://versus.com/en/asus-tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi-vs-msi-mag-x670e-tomahawk-wifi


The RAM is a sidegrade at best, and only get that if you want the RGB lighting shit.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:16:30 No.103949444
>>103949422
you're retarded as fuck not getting an AIO, enjoy your shit thermals and poor case space then
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:17:22 No.103949450
1736889872740
>Sapphire 7900XTX
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:17:30 No.103949452
>>103949433
>>103949444
dubs and trips of truth
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:17:41 No.103949454
>>103949411
Would a D-15 G2 be sufficient for cooling a 9800x3d?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:20:18 No.103949477
1688104942510301
>>103949450
Mine died and I want another but they are no longer possible to find
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:20:20 No.103949479
>>103949454
>>103949422
why are you niggers afraid of AIOs?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:22:53 No.103949499
Do a 14700K sale on amazon, thanks
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:23:31 No.103949505
>>103949479
I only upgrade my base kit every ~8 years. I'm not dealing with leaks in a $3000 PC and living in fear of evaporation when I can replace a fucking failed fan on a hunk of metal. I don't trust any pump on an 8 year time span.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:24:08 No.103949511
>>103949499
Intel should just discount that shit. Nobody wants an obsolete socket anyway, just give us ze deals.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:25:10 No.103949518
>>103949505
>don't trust any pump on an 8 year time span.
I have a PC from 2013 still using the same h100i I installed. had my current PC for 6 years on an AIO. Stop listening to fuddlore.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:26:05 No.103949526
3d rotating cat skateboarding
>>103949433
OMG, there is a site to compare this ridiculous nomenclature for these stupid motherboards, I was over here going back and forth for the OEM sites trying to see the difference. It seems the S/PDIF upgrade is worth since I have some Dt1990 beyer

I'm aiming for personal aesthtics and the LGBTRGB ligths hits the spot.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:26:13 No.103949530
I'm surprised people still listen to MILD considering he constantly gets shit wrong
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:26:47 No.103949536
>>103949479
I'm not afraid of AIOs I just like air cooling more.
If part of my AIO breaks I need a new AIO. If one of the fans on the D-15 break (unlikely) then i can just buy a new fan.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:28:28 No.103949550
>>103949536
fair enough. They just have more downsides than pros IMO,

>heavy/large
>takes up space
>not as efficient as a liquid setup

pros:
>they're cheaper?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:30:06 No.103949562
>>103949530
AMDrones need all the koolaid they can drink
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:31:06 No.103949575
>>103949550
they don't expire
0 maintenance
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:31:19 No.103949579
>>103949530
it's enough to just exercise discernment, his leaks about RDNA 4's performance and the cancellation of navi 41 were obviously substantive
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:31:19 No.103949581
>>103948204
>darling in the franxx
is this the shit taste thread
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:33:07 No.103949601
1732557865104113
>>103948304
>nvidiashill only exists to counter amd shilling!
>he just white-knights for a publically traded company as a hobby guys I swear!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:33:19 No.103949603
>>103949575
>0 maintenance

>put on AIO
>never touch it again
ok
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:34:04 No.103949612
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:35:25 No.103949628
/pcbg/ help me pick a motherboard for this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HftRFZ
The "already purchased" storage is what I currently have, to give an overview of the ports I'll need.
>ATX
>extra SATA/M.2 always nice but not essential
>wifi not needed, bluetooth might be nice but not essential
>ethernet 1Gb/s needed, more might future-proof me but not essential
>bunch of USB ports good, standard audio ports good, that's about all I need
I want something that's good quality in terms of power distribution and shit, and ideally that I can expect to last for a while, but without overspending. The motherboard landscape looks crazy right now
My current motherboard has a POST code display and I've used it in the past when it wouldn't boot, but apparently this is a luxury feature now? So I don't know
I don't have any recent AMD CPUs so I think that means I can't get a B650 (since it'll need a BIOS update), right?

Also other criticism welcome (especially around the SSD - would a gen5 instead be worth it? - and the exact model of 7900xtx, though remember UK prices)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:36:18 No.103949641
>>103949550
I mean technically AIOs are larger, heavier, and take up more space, it's just that you don't have it located directly over the CPU.

But I do see the appeal to them. I used to use them several builds ago, but overclocking isn't really worth doing anymore so I'd rather go with a "good enough" choice that I never really have to worry about again. Also the air coolers are generally a bit quieter than the AIOs since they don't have a pump running.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:36:26 No.103949644
>>103949628
Gigabyte or Asrock have been generally well received, pick one that has your needed ports and requirements
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:37:32 No.103949660
>>103949072
High frame rate should not physically reduce lap times. If the high FPS gives you better reaction times it's fair game. 60 at high speed is really not enough.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:37:43 No.103949662
>>103949644
So the cheapest one (from those two) that has enough ports for my shit is good enough? I don't need to look out for like VRM quality or whatever?
What's the point of those £250-500+ mobos then
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:38:07 No.103949667
>>103949641
I think you're using older logic from when they first began coming around. They've been superior for about 15 years now. Having the rad as an exhaust is the superior setup. Retards breaking their pumps mounting them in the wrong vertical front as an intake give them a bad rep.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:40:12 No.103949693
>>103949662
>What's the point of those £250-500+ mobos then
Ability to use more m.2 slots in gen 5 without sharing part of the chipset and reducing PCI x16 to x8, better VRMs, better voltage control, more safety features, generally more "future proof" spec reqs like USB thunderbolt, wifi7, usually 2.5-10 Gbps LAN, aftermarket LAN intel drivers, etc. etc.

Stuff that the average gaymer shouldn't worry about.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:40:23 No.103949695
>>103949603
Anecdotally, I built my PC in 2013 (upgraded once in 2016 or 2017 I think) with a shitty corsair AiO and haven't touched it since, except for the aforementioned upgrade of course. It was probably overkill but it just works

>>103949667
Mine's a top intake, why does having the rad as a front intake break the pump?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:44:31 No.103949733
>>103949695
>why does having the rad as a front intake break the pump?
there's like 2 orientations you can use for intake front, one will definitely destroy the pump in less than a few years due to air bubbles getting trapped and the pump struggles, the other is kinda meh but still "works". Top exhaust is the way they were designed to be ran.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:46:50 No.103949767
>>103949733
I still can't fathom why having it in a specific way on the front would somehow introduce bubbles (surely it's supposed to be completely filled with fluid right??).
Also why top exhaust and not top intake, why wouldn't you get cool outside air into your CPU rad
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:50:18 No.103949796
>>103949767
>why top exhaust and not top intake, why wouldn't you get cool outside air into your CPU rad
hot air rises, you'd be working against just heat dynamics, you'd be intaking air from top to bottom which would meet air you'd be intaking from the bottom and front and the air would just be circulating around.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:50:23 No.103949799
>>103949518
OK I also want 6 HDDs what now? The rad is cockblocking me. They're a pain in the fucking ass. I'd rather get a lower tier CPU if the heat efficiency is better without too much performance compromise.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:50:25 No.103949800
Which PSU brands should I consider and which should I absolutely avoid?

Will need to upgrade when I eventually get a new GPU.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:51:18 No.103949808
>>103949796
>>103949767
not to mention you want air from fans flowing over your rad, not intaking from the rad
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:53:16 No.103949829
>>103949796
I suppose that does make sense, but if the inside of your case is hot enough to have significant upwards convection I think it's also going to be hot enough to have trouble cooling your rad and you're already doing something wrong

>>103949808
You can mount the fans in push either way can't you
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:54:41 No.103949840
>>103949800
>PSU brands should I consider
Seasonic, Corsair

>and which should I absolutely avoid?
Thermaltake
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:55:41 No.103949851
>>103949799
>also want 6 HDDs what now? The rad is cockblocking me. They're a pain in the fucking ass. I'd rather get a lower tier CPU if the heat efficiency is better without too much performance compromise.
retarded af
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:56:04 No.103949858
What about Asus? Do they make quality parts?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:56:53 No.103949860
GLgdPFtWMAAQ20B
BUILD:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WrhZ2x

USE CASES:
Gaming, 3D Render (Blender)

BUDGET, COUNTRY: $1800 CAD (not including GPU, monitors - 4070 TS already owned)

QUESTION:
> a) Ryzen 7 7800X3D $640
> b) Ryzen 9 7900X $550 (-$220, on sale from $770)

Placeholder parts, except MOBO.
Simlar to an earlier question, but consider that Gaming and Rendering are 50/50 split. Does the 9 7900X sale win out and future-proof this build enough? Or will 7 7800XD be needed?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:57:24 No.103949868
Is there anything I need to do after updating BIOS, the old build was almost 2 years old.
I've got a MSI popup after doing it with a bunch of MSI-provided driver updates, but I figured I'd do them myself if needed instead of relying on whatever outdated stuff MSI throws at me.

Do I actually need to update shit like chipset or audio drivers or am I being memed?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:59:36 No.103949890
>>103949868
I generally don't fuck with shit if it's working to my expectations.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:00:35 No.103949899
>>103949860
why are you looking at a 7900x for 550 when 9900x is 409 and 9950x is 569 rn....
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:00:37 No.103949900
>>103949890
I mean I want to eventually slot in a new CPU in there and it needed the update to be recognized.
I wouldn't do it normally.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:01:09 No.103949907
>>103949518
>I have a PC from 2013 still using the same h100i I installed
Brother
>>103949799
Get a better case retard, that doesn't put the HDD mounting points in the space of the rad
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:01:35 No.103949911
>>103949890
>>103949900
wait, you guys DON'T update your BIOS and drivers? lol is this opposite night tonight?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:02:07 No.103949917
>>103949799
just buy an aircooler then
looking for an argument what's the point
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:03:04 No.103949927
>>103949858
Asus is generally overpriced and subpar in pretty much everything. Motherboards, GPUs, Laptops, everything. They have very high RMA rates.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:05:53 No.103949942
>>103949911
I do if there's an issue somewhere but not normally. Windows is the only exception where I update it as soon as I can because once I delayed it as much as I could and then it threw the spookiest BSOD I've ever seen at me to force a restart with the update.
Just wondering about the BIOS thingy since that seems like a big step and I've never done it before.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:09:10 No.103949973
>>103949733
> Mine's a top intake
Care to explain the reasoning behind this?

>>103949695
You can have a rad in front as intake with it's ports on top and the pump lower than the ports. This ensures that bubbles do not travel to the pump and build air pockets. I recommend using a rad with additional refill port and checking the fluid level once in a year. The top position as exhaust of course is the better option if possible. But what do if you have two AIOs or two dedicated custom loops, one for the CPU and one for the GPU? I would then use the top position for the GPU rad because it produces much more waste heat under load than the CPU and I want to get this heat out of the case ASAP, not blow it into the case.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:11:30 No.103949998
Why would front intake be bad when it lowers temps by 10C
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:11:44 No.103950000
>>103949973
>Care to explain the reasoning behind this?
Blow cold outside air rather than hot inside air
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:12:54 No.103950013
>>103950000
wasted quads god damn you are stupid man. you're just fighting against head dynamics. But you do do lol. Are you European or Australian or Canadian by any chance?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:13:49 No.103950019
>>103949800
> Which PSU brands should I consider
beQuiet before anything else.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:19:13 No.103950067
>5700x clocks at 4.6 GHz with a base frequency of 3.4 GHz
>5700x3d clocks at 4.1 GHz with a base frequency of 3.0 GHz
>5700x3d is like 20% faster despite that
is frequency really that irrelevant?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:20:41 No.103950077
>>103949767
They come with a little bit of air in the loop from the factory to cushion uneven thermal expansion of the materials when hot
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:21:24 No.103950084
>>103950019
bequiet sucks they don't even have any RGB
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:25:09 No.103950116
>>103950067
Frequency is relevant which is why the 5800x3d is about 10% faster than the 5700x3d while it's also clocked 10% higher. The 9800x3d is also faster than the 7800x3d in games mostly thanks to the 7% increased clockspeed as zen5 didn't do much for games at all.

It's just that tripling the L3 cache improves the performance per clock higher than you would lose from losing 12% clockspeed.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:25:23 No.103950118
>>103950000
The inside air may be warmer than ambient but is not exactly hot if you have 3x140mm front fans, a perforated bottom with perhaps even additional fan and if you don't install other radiators as intake. What you achieve with an intake rad is just that your fans can spin a little slower to provide the same level of cooling as an exhaust rad with fans spinning a little faster at the price of heating up all other components inside the case that are not themselves cooled by intake rads: GPU, SSDs, VREGS, RAM. This is not what I want. Do you want this?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:27:32 No.103950134
>>103950118
>if you have 3x140mm front fans
Nigger I have 5 5.25'' bays and my one 140mm front fan is blowing across four HDDs and two SSDs
My bottom is not perforated which is a good thing because it's full of dust why would I literally suck up all of my dust into my PC

You do make a good point about heating everything else up though so I may reconsider
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:27:39 No.103950135
>>103950084
Pardon? In my universe "RGB" does not define the quality of a PSU.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:28:27 No.103950147
6bit+FRC are acceptable screens?
Want to replace my old LG but looks like all cheap screens has 6bit.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:28:59 No.103950155
>>103950135
Speaking of, how long until they put screens on GPUs, we already have them on cases,fans,coolers, and RAM is too small to put a screen on so that leaves GPUs next.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:29:35 No.103950166
>>103950116
Man I wish I could still find a 5800x3d somewhere, they pulled the plug on that the second I got the money for a CPU upgrade.
5700x3d will have to do.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:31:19 No.103950187
>>103950155
The aorus master cards have displays on them and I think the galax hof cards have an addon screen
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:32:55 No.103950199
>>103949799
>OK I also want 6 HDDs what now?
get a NAS
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:34:04 No.103950207
1722284756842493
>>103948204
>Fuck this mentally ill fruit hijacking /pcbg/ peak season because they crave attention but cannot leave the house because they look like a fucking mutant clown. Total Tranny Death event when?
Who's going to be first to seriously review the new cards and when?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:34:10 No.103950211
>>103948907
It's a shit deal. CL36 ram and old/shit/overpriced mobos. But separately and get the board you want and ram that is actually decent.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:34:32 No.103950217
Critiques? Budget is 1500 USD for 4k gaming.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Hgv3w
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:36:23 No.103950230
173667716309080874
I just bought a RX 7600
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:36:29 No.103950231
6_Silent_Base_802_black
>>103950134
I'm sorry to hear that your case has no easily serviceable dust filter over the full length of a perforated bottom.

> 5 5.25'' bays
And? Do you make any use of them? If you can dispense with just three of them you could install another 120mm fan. But the better solution for cooling would be a new case like picrel with large intake fans and dust filters.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:36:58 No.103950238
>>103950207
January 24 nvidia reviews happening
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:37:41 No.103950242
2b7
>>103950230
linux or windows?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:37:47 No.103950243
>>103950217
I downloaded 15 games in my computer and it's like 2tb of storage already. Otherwise fine.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:38:00 No.103950248
>>103950230
I just pre-ordered an RTX 9070Ti for just €600 from aliexpress. I'm so clever.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:39:21 No.103950262
>>103950231
Maybe yeah. I use three of my bays but some of it is junk (like a weird SD card reader thingy that never worked right).

>new case
I hate pretty much all new cases.
For example, can you explain to me why none of them have side fans over the GPU anymore? My GPU gets fresh cold outside air blown right onto it by a 200mm fan. Your pic related doesn't even have the cancer window and yet they still didn't add a side fan.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:39:31 No.103950264
>>103950238
Who's review will be the best without bias?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:43:01 No.103950292
i wonder how cheap the 9070 will be if it flopped, aside from the 7000 series are there any other models where amd do a price cut early
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:43:37 No.103950298
>>103950264
Tech Jesus
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:44:32 No.103950310
>>103950199
I'm not paying Synology $1000 for a bare caddy celeron garbage with 2GB soldered ram and no 10Gbit they can disable hardware encoding on after a year... or running another ATX power supply at inefficient 10% loads with a giant footprint when my PC can do it to avoid the headaches caused by a shitty rad and AIO, tube length fuckery, orientations, absolute risk assessments on chang pumps, remounting it and cleaning paste off, etc I don't care.
I'm just going to get a Peerless Assassin 120 SE, 10 overpriced noctua fans, and undervolt the piece of shit. AIOs are that fucking stupid to me. Only benefit is easier access to M2 slots.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:46:16 No.103950318
>>103950310
damn you dumb af lol enjoy your shit undervolted build then ig?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:46:34 No.103950322
>>103950292
>are there any other models where amd do a price cut early
yes they cut the price of the RX 7600 the day before it launched
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:48:16 No.103950329
>>103950264
Probably gamersnexus, level1tech
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:49:25 No.103950336
>>103950264
Just read multiple reviews and average them out
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:51:38 No.103950350
>>103950242
windows, I have a minipc and want to try running the card via an egpu dock and oculink
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:55:06 No.103950373
>>103950264
If interested in how they perform on linux: phoronix
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:55:58 No.103950385
1714757807160180
>>103950147
Question bump.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:00:27 No.103950423
Lian_Li
>>103950262
> why none of them have side fans over the GPU anymore
It's more costly to produce and demand for it seems not high enough.
The fan would further reduce the space for the GPU requiring the case to be made extra-wide or the fan would have to be installed outside of the case which does not look attractive to most people and makes more noise.
It would defy the concept of creating an airstream (would disturb it) from the front/bottom to the top/rear.

I understand that a side fan would be the first choice if cooling the GPU had priority over everything else or if the GPU could be housed in a compartment separated from the rest of the internals with a duct leading intake air to the GPU and then directly out of the case. This would be great. I think some prebuilds from Apple or others featured this. My old Lian Li btw had a side fan for cards but the mainboard had to be installed inverted, picrel.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:02:57 No.103950445
>>103950423
I really just don't see why cooling the GPU has a lower priority than "airflow", especially when again the front is where bays and HHDs go. If you've got a good cooler on your CPU and a fan blowing on your GPU, what more do you need?
>costly to produce
That I can get (though there's plenty of idiotically overpriced cases, and plenty of weirdly sized ones too).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:04:20 No.103950460
>>103950262
Fractal North supports side intake for GPU
Other than that, fishtank cases with bottom intake like the o11 dynamic have replaced the GPU side intake
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:04:56 No.103950466
>>103948204
Should I buy the 100 FABULOUS fake frame 5090? Or should I be less like a stupid woman, and instead go on "meaty reality" as one translator of the Tao Te Ching put it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:07:23 No.103950482
1372386976568
>>103949899
Are you talking USD because I was talking CAD the whole time;
9 9900X is $600 though and thats still not too bad?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:10:27 No.103950513
>>103950445
>again the front is where bays and HHDs go
have you built a computer in the past 8 years? honestly?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:11:27 No.103950523
>>103950482
yea USD. That sucks man, the 9900x is 409 on Amazon rn, and the 9950x is 569 at micro center. Do you guys have to deal with getting previous gen parts for markup or some VAT tax or something?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:11:52 No.103950525
>>103950513
yeah my last upgrade was late 2017 so less than 8 years ago
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:15:22 No.103950559
>>103950525
yea it shows since a lot of cases don't put HDD racks in the front anymore. Also most people just use exclusively NVMes since they're so cheap now, if they need more storage just use cloud or local network NAS setup.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:27:42 No.103950653
mypc
what should I upgrade in my rig first?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:29:54 No.103950679
>>103950653
honestly you could drop in a 7800x3d or 7950x3d and you'd be good for a few more years
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:30:02 No.103950680
>>103950559
To be fair I'm about to upgrade again and I'm still gonna have my HDDs in front.
I'm just way too fucking lazy to build a NAS
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:31:16 No.103950687
5090_iCHILL_Frostbite_set
>>103949426
I WANT MY 5090 AND I WANT IT NOW
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:32:38 No.103950694
>Build PC
>I7 13700k temps reach 100C in PoE2
should I be concerned
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:34:00 No.103950707
1723511277117380
>>103950694
>>I7 13700k temps reach 100C in PoE2
That CPU runs hot, not even AIO slop can handle it. Custom loop or undervolt.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:34:40 No.103950709
>>103950445
I know that the industry sells concepts people want to believe in but "airflow" is not that stupid for once. It starts from the assumption that all components require to be cooled equally and that all waste heat has to be transported out of the case as effectively as possible, rather than focusing on the local intake of fresh air and neglecting the accumulation of heat inside. This is best achieved by taking in as much air on one side and have it move through the whole case to the other side where it is blown out. Since warm air has the tendency to rise an exhaust in top requires the least work from fans. All components are supposed to be positioned such that the airstream moves over their surfaces/heatsinks. To optimize cooling of the GPU within this concept I recommend getting a case that has a perforated bottom (with dust filter!) and installing a fan on this bottom under the GPU.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:34:59 No.103950712
>>103950694
lol fucking intel slop
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:35:49 No.103950718
>>103950707
That's scary. Should I expect a performance hit from undervolting? I won't be doing any productivity related tasks, so it's not a huge deal, just gaming.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:36:02 No.103950721
>>103950709
there's no point in explaining to him, he's obviously some europoor or Canadian or just retarded, you've explained it as simple as it can be.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:36:15 No.103950722
>>103950687
No you don't
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:36:20 No.103950723
finally
>>103950709
>Since warm air has the tendency to rise an exhaust in top requires the least work from fans
This effect is so little it does not matter. You can intake from the top, the fans will move the air
>durr hurr YOU CAN'T DO THAT
Post your OC and your temps.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:38:57 No.103950735
dybwggbfkgde1
>>103950653
Your gaming monitor to an OLED.
1440p starts at $470: https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Speakers-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH?sr=8-5
4K starts at $800: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv88TW/msi-mag-321upx-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-mag-321upx-qd-oled
It's like moving from an HDD to SSD.

>But burn-in!
Nobody said you had to throw out your LCD for static content where image quality doesn't matter.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:40:55 No.103950745
>>103950723
you're just a trolling faggot
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:40:57 No.103950746
>>103950735
what's the best 1440p oled monitor that is budget friendly?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:41:12 No.103950748
>>103950687
0 fake frames of game on the screen,
0 fake frames of game,
Warp a fake frame and shift the aim,
1 fake frames of game on the screen.

1 fake frames of game on the screen,
1 fake frames of game,
Warp a fake frame and shift the aim,
2 fake frames of game on the screen.

2 fake frames of game on the screen,
2 fake frames of game,
Warp a fake frame and shift the aim,
3 fake frames of game on the screen.

3 fake frames of game on the screen,
3 fake frames of game,
Warp a fake frame and shift the aim,
4 fake frames of game on the screen.

4 fake frames of game on the screen,
4 fake frames of game,
Warp a fake frame and shift the aim,
5 fake frames of game on the screen.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:41:52 No.103950755
>>103950694
what cooler are you using
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:42:04 No.103950758
>>103950735
your desktop background is gay as fuck and your desktop is cluttered, is this how Win babies setup their env?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:43:47 No.103950778
>>103950735
>bro just fucking do a ballet dance with your monitors every time you swap between a game and literally anything else
The only way I can possibly see OLED working right now is if you have a corner desk (like i think you do right now) and just rotate to face either one side or the other depending on what you're doing. Then maybe, I can see how you could possibly make it work. For anyone with a straight desk though OLEDs are basically out of the question (unless you like "upgrading" your monitor every 2-3 years like it's an iphone).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:44:57 No.103950796
>>103950778
Just don't be a pussy, I have an OLED and I use it the same as I did with my ips.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:45:47 No.103950804
>>103950796
How long have you had it for? Genuinely curious if it's been long yet and how soon you're planning to replace it
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:45:51 No.103950805
>>103949868
>chipset
Yes so you get better thread and power management etc. Always keep chipset drivers up to date. But always use chipset site, motherboard sites all have outdated drivers.
>audio etc
Fuck this shit, just get recent ones after every fresh windows install.

>2 years old
When jumping multiple versions or doing major update I usually clear settings and do everything from scratch, not just following my checklist but also looking for any new/different options.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:48:29 No.103950824
547574754
>>103950746
I linked it in >>103950735
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Speakers-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH
Others are going to be around $500 or more. They were on sale for $400 during last Black Friday.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:50:30 No.103950844
>>103950723
Sure you can intake from the top but what then? What is supposed to be done with the warm air from a top radiator?

> I have no radiator, only fans in top
Your fresh air will be pushed out of the case before hitting any hot part.

> I have all other fans in rear and front as exhaust
Okay but this doesn't cool other parts on your motherboard nearly as effectively as with the mainstream solution that usually allows for more and larger intake fans providing fresh air for all components.

> I have only the rear fan as sole exhaust
You will have warm air stalling inside the case.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:50:36 No.103950846
173691444619049684
Someone please redpill me on curved monitors
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:50:47 No.103950850
I bought a 265k anyway, mad?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:52:31 No.103950869
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:52:52 No.103950874
>>103950824
seem to be unavailable in Poland
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:53:58 No.103950883
71iQgv61gzL._AC_SL1500_
>>103950778
Dual monitor arms exist.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:54:33 No.103950891
>live in the bum fuck middle of nowhere
>extremely rich though, literally the average shithouse that's 40 years old and falling apart goes for 3-4 million dollars
>average age of residents is literally 45, mostly a rich area for Boomers who live upstate nearly all year
>for some reason we have a Microcenter
>a Microcenter that's about two miles away from a Lamborghini dealership
Should I bother going there and trying to get a 5090? I figure it'll still be crowded due to people trying to scalp as a result of the unique-ish place it's located in, and people from neighboring counties but I also live really close by and figure that maybe if I show up a few hours beforehand that I can get an Astral since I doubt those will move if they get at least half a dozen of them.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:59:39 No.103950933
efefc0801537873fc7693c7191da3e0a
I want a 5090 every night I can't stop thinking about the 5090 bros do I even have a chance of pre-ordering founders on their website on the 30th or will it be out of stock in 0.001 seconds?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:00:10 No.103950935
>>103950846
I like them, some people hate them
It's nice to have it be more straight-on wherever you're looking. Even if your panel has good viewing angles, it's still weird to look at things edge-on. Only matters if you've got a slightly larger monitor of course (and/or are sitting quite close to it).
Some people complain that you will see straight lines as curved, but I switch between curved and straight all the time on different setups and I literally do not notice any difference in how straight lines look to me
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:01:13 No.103950944
>>103950883
Almost all monitor arms I've ever used are at least a little bit stiff to adjust. Having to constantly, at least twice a day if not more, move one monitor way off to the side and bring the other in the center and then back around sounds like hell.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:02:36 No.103950958
>>103950933
what are you playing
>>103950891
nigger if you wanna take the chance then why not
show up with a smile and a firm handshake and ask them to sell you a gpu
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:02:37 No.103950959
>>103950874
Knowing that sooner would have helped:
This is probably your best bet: https://allegro.pl/oferta/monitor-dell-alienware-aw2725df-27-2560-x-1440-px-oled-360hz-0-3-ms-gaming-17087082167
32" 4K model is also a good deal for not much more if you don't mind a curved panel: https://allegro.pl/oferta/monitor-alienware-aw3225qf-4k-240hz-g-sync-qd-oled-hdr-idealny-do-ps5-xbox-15888976752
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:05:27 No.103950981
>>103950935
I only have enough room for a 32-inch monitor at most and I also like playing retro vidya (esp isometric games), any idea if those look any different?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:06:55 No.103950993
>>103950981
Like I said I do not see any issues or differences in how straight lines are displayed, even when using my monitors for shit like sketching or CAD, so in my opinion - no, any game will not look different either. But apparently some people do complain about this so YMMV.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:07:32 No.103950997
Wtf the fuck is the point of buying an amd gpu if it isn’t sub 300$
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:07:43 No.103951000
>>103950959
thank u anon, i already made research on it and and it has glossy screen finish, isn't it a problem?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:09:10 No.103951012
d8b48c40c0bf062978d8d22300eccddf
>>103950958
LLMs + comfyui
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:09:35 No.103951015
>>103950993
Appreciate it anon. So if you could choose only one, both being the same size/specs what would you go for?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:15:40 No.103951074
>>103951012
Stinky Tomoko feet sex
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:15:52 No.103951078
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-tuf-graphics-cards-gets-first-unboxing-video-ahead-of-launch
>no official benchmarks posted
>no official pricing announced
>virtually no advertising outside reddit
>video of an unboxing
bruh wtf is amd doing?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:17:09 No.103951091
>>103951078
>tfw lisa fired the guy who's supposed to present among the 1000 radeon personnel retrenched
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:17:30 No.103951095
>>103950997
it impresses your reddit/discord moderator buddies.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:18:25 No.103951112
>>103951078
on the 22nd you can just go to any hardware store and pick them up for free
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:18:55 No.103951117
>>103950958
>nigger if you wanna take the chance then why not
I am asking because I don't want to miss out trying to get one online from home due to having a bunch of retailers I can access versus one brick and mortar store. That's why I am not sure if I should show up.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:19:01 No.103951119
Gg8O2RFaUAATSAI
>>103951074
Did you know tomoko weighs about as much as 18 rtx 4090's?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:19:56 No.103951131
>>103951078
>bruh wtf is amd doing?
waiting until people find out there is no supply of 50xx cards so they can price gouge
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:22:21 No.103951150
>>103951078
AMD's marketers belong to the school of thought that thinks that even bad publicity is good for business
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:22:34 No.103951154
1734450142592310
>9070
>7900xtx (-10%) raster performance for $750
AMD WON
THANK YOU AMD
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:23:16 No.103951161
>>103951078
>no announcement of review embargo date
>reviews just drop out of nowhere
>no price given
>release date given
>late Feb
do u rike it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:29:20 No.103951204
>>103950997
The point is to have nearly the raw gaming performance of a 4080 for just half the price.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:30:09 No.103951210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ5UBhEDm-I

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:30:15 No.103951211
>>103950981
I have used curved and large 32 inch monitors
curved is great for working and opening multiple progams and documents. for gaming it just generates extra useless space or black screen space

32 inch is just better and scales with some extra space but nothing crazy. you also can sit further from your screen
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:31:19 No.103951223
>>103951154
are 7900xtx really 750 now? I need to RMA mine because the rgb led won't be recognized by drivers or programs
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:33:53 No.103951254
>>103951223
>are 7900xtx really 750 now?
no the xt is
the 79000xtx is still around 900$ plus
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:33:56 No.103951255
>>103951000
>thank u anon, i already made research on it and and it has glossy screen finish, isn't it a problem?
No as long as it's not in direct sunlight. Matte coatings ruin the clarity and lushness of the image that make OLED worth having.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:35:40 No.103951269
>>103951078
they just don't want to release this card, they fucked up the pricing probably and don't know what to do
imagine being so greedy nvidia undercut's you
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:36:22 No.103951273
>>103951210
thanks for what? ensuring devs will never optimize their games again?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:38:28 No.103951289
All frames were fake even before framegen
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:38:40 No.103951290
>>103951154
550 or doa
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:40:31 No.103951300
>>103951078
Minimizing marketing costs since everyone knows about RDNA4 off the internet anyway
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:41:16 No.103951306
1541099980132
>want to buy a new graphics card
>look on companies site
>out of stock
>look on aib seller sites
>95% out of stock, 5% in stock and marked up 70%
>fuck it
>look on ebay
>search around, find some listing that aren't scams or previous crypto miners
>create account
>add all shipping/payment info, 2-factor etc
>click "buy it now"
>ERROR YOU MUST VERIFY MORE INFO
>do it and try again
>ERROR YOU CANNOT PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE ITEM IN A CERTAIN PERIOD
>check account purchases, nothing there
>do some searching and find out new accounts can't make any expensive purchases for some time after it was created
i guess it just wasn't meant to be
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:41:36 No.103951310
>>103951290
550 msrp = 750 real world price
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:42:01 No.103951314
will there be a low profile 5060 12GB
or a low profile 5060 Ti 16GB
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:42:08 No.103951316
1733522316955878
>card will be in between 300$ and 1000$
come one guys we all know the 9070 is going to be priced at 600$ and up lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:45:04 No.103951333
If I do not care about raytracing what card should I buy?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:45:43 No.103951338
>>103951333
7900xtx or 7900xt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:48:46 No.103951369
>>103950264
Gamersnexus and Daniel owen's both are pretty fair to both sides as they look at performance per dollar and Daniel actually shows side by side comparisons.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:49:00 No.103951370
>>103951333
Cheapest one you can buy
5090 does 25 fps while 4090 20fps on raytracing
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:50:26 No.103951385
>>103951254
I was thinking about just holding onto one in case the 9070xt truly doesnt come out on the 23'rd as I still wanna play Monster hunter wilds when it comes out. backup in case the release date isnt until march or some shit
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:52:58 No.103951403
>buying a gpu this close to the next console gen
Kek have fun with ports not even properly opening due to no full dx13 support on your stupid ass niggervideo 5090 that you spent $2799 on just a year and a half ago. How many times will this happen before you learn? The waitening never ends.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:53:08 No.103951404
>>103951370
GAYtracing
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:54:30 No.103951410
>>103951403
Guaranteed not for another 3 years at the minimum
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:57:34 No.103951436
>>103951410
Gtx 200 series got annihilated by the rapid adoption of dx11. You're making a bet on tech being slow though
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:57:34 No.103951437
>>103951403
>waiting until 2027+ to get a GPU
lmao retard, the last GPU generation will be in
in 2026, then the chinese do their little cross-strait invasion and you won't get a GPU as good ever again
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:58:23 No.103951442
>>103951403
actual next gen is far and you will have to deal with mandatory 2 years of crossgen anyway
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:58:34 No.103951445
>>103951437
Chinese won't do shit, tariffs are the ones that will fuck the market for everyone.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:59:17 No.103951451
>>103951154
>10% less performance for 25% less money 2 years later
That would be shit.
>b-but Nvidia
Is also releasing a shit gen but in no way would that excuse AMD.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:59:31 No.103951454
>>103951436
>Gtx 200 series got annihilated by the rapid adoption of dx11
and the 900 series weathered the introduction of dx12 just fine, AMD users even saw a humongous uplift because it used latent capabilities in GCN
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)23:59:45 No.103951455
>>103951445
>cost
>mattering
I forgot how poor this thread was
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:01:29 No.103951462
>>103951403
I'm like 5 gens behind, I can't take it anymore.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:02:25 No.103951467
>>103951454
>900 series weathered
Ashes of the Benchmark disagrees. Niggsynchronous compute brought kekwell to its knees because they couldn't stop cutting corners. The only latent performance gcn ever got was fine wine tech (i.e their drivers finally getting good after being horrifically bad for years on end)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:03:25 No.103951476
1724334107203097
>already spent after tax 1900 leaf bucks on new PC
>still missing 5080 that'll be another 1600+ leaf bucks
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:04:52 No.103951484
>>103951445
They will, if you think they are going to blueball everyone after doing the biggest military build up since the 1930s with the explicitly communicated goal of taking Taiwan by force by 2027, you are wrong. It'll take a decade or more for Intel and Samsung's fabs to catch up to where TSMC will be.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:08:26 No.103951513
heavy.001
>>103951467
>Ashes of the Benchmark disagrees
Not really though. If you benchmark new nvidia GPUs TODAY, they still do more or less the same in DX11 and DX12 in the games that offer both as a choice, same as it was back then.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:09:02 No.103951518
>>103951484
>RTX reviews in 4 days
Someone just leak the benchmark already
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:09:40 No.103951520
So finally we know the 5090 isn't Titan class for gaming. How is the 5090 at doing its magic fake frames on movies? Can we take a stupid kino pile of shit that's 29fps and make it 200+ fps?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:10:48 No.103951529
>>103951520
DLSS Frame Generation requires motion vectors provided by the game engine to do its magic
Movies provide no such thing
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:14:04 No.103951549
>>103951211
>for gaming it just generates extra useless space or black screen space

How does it do that, if a game is already full-screen?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:14:24 No.103951553
>>103951529
Can it be faked?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:16:08 No.103951567
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:17:32 No.103951580
I shouldnt have bought a 1080ti
Everything looks like a scam now and it only gets worse the longer I have it
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:18:02 No.103951589
>>103951529
but you don't have to do it in real time, so you can just use an AI model to identify things in the scene and generate motion vectors in a preprocessing pass
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:19:25 No.103951603
CHIPHELL-UDNA-RUMORS-2
https://videocardz.com/newz/next-gen-amd-udna-architecture-to-revive-radeon-flagship-gpu-line-on-tsmc-n3e-node-claims-leaker
If UDNA is going to combine Professional/AI and Gaming architectures together does that mean cards going forward from AMD are going to be even slower for the size/price than what RDNA4 and earlier consumer GPUs provided?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:20:50 No.103951617
>>103951553
Yeah you can and the method to fake it depends on your video player
I don't know how to do it in web browsers
If you use mpv as your video player, you can add
--interpolation
to your configuration and set tscale to your filter of choice
If you use MPC (and variants), you can use SmoothVideo Project
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:26:08 No.103951663
>>103951603
No, it just means they'll be better in generating ai porn just like nvidia and intel cards.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:27:13 No.103951671
maxresdefault
>>103951529
> Movies provide no such thing
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:30:57 No.103951708
>>103951603
>my aunt works for le AMD
oh OK I believe it
>If UDNA is going to combine Professional/AI and Gaming architectures together does that mean cards going forward from AMD are going to be even slower for the size/price than what RDNA4 and earlier consumer GPUs provided?
Yes, they will resolve every design compromise in favor of compute, like they did with GCN.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:35:18 No.103951751
>>103951617
No I mean can you use the 5090's ai stuff to gen the frames? You could lie and pretend like it's totally a 3d game. You could use ai to try to find a depth map and infer vectors or whatever it needs.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:36:19 No.103951760
>>103951671
Yes!

What's the result with the 5090?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:40:36 No.103951784
Fell asleep for 3 hrs and had a dream that I got a launch 5090 fe card but the coil whine was terrible and it was hitting 90c in games and it was increasing my ram temps to the point where my ram was no longer stable so I had to return it…
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:51:54 No.103951853
>>103951451
reviewers would love it
they hyped up the 7800xt even though it's the same shit as the 6800xt but $100 cheaper
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:55:16 No.103951872
>>103949249
>omg lmao rofl
yeah sure
>leddit.comtard (front page of the intertard); i just bought 4070 i could not be happier/just got this 4070, i am so happy/are you happy that you bought 4070 since these cards are running out of stock, i'm just asking because i am happy that i just got one 4070 for mere $900
yet, stores still keep those on shelves. seems not many wish to be happy by getting such a low priced mid budget card

>omg i just heard scalpers are about to deplete new 5k series, news are reporting stocks will be scarce,some even say that due to such high demand for this much anticipated ngridia 5k release there will be no available tardgpus on sales for years on end. omg.
yeah right
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:56:23 No.103951882
>>103951603
>AMD already hyping up next gen gpu
RDNA4 confirmed to be a disaster
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:58:06 No.103951900
>>103951671
Can Lossless scaling improve this? I want high quality mode for movies.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)00:58:18 No.103951901
>>103948492
>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-security/pluton/microsoft-pluton-security-processor
>1) Most manufacturers have left the adoption of Pluton as an "opt-in" for consumers so it may not be enabled in the first place. A quick google search will provide several resources where manufacturers are adopting this mind-set.

>>103948653
No. But Windows can, 24H2 breaks some cracks.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:13:15 No.103951992
>>103948204
Has anyone used the 24" mode before on 27+ OLED monitors?
I can scale 27" down to 24" manually but it's not 1920x1080 but rather a weird resolution like 2206x1260 or whatever and some games + recording software don't like it.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:14:01 No.103951997
Why do GPUs typically have some plastic or metal cover around one or both sides of the card? How does air circulate through a GPU when there's two fans on one side but a solid plate on the other side? Why aren't all GPUs designed like the 5080/90 Founders Edition with open access to the heat pipes for air to flow through?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:15:55 No.103952010
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:20:29 No.103952045
>>103951997
You know those little dots? Those are for your drill bit, you add ventilation and/or headphone jacks.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:23:59 No.103952082
IMG_4523
>>103952010
I mean, am I? Is pic related actually a solid backplate with a design that just looks like exposed heat fins? Sorry if I made a dumb assumption.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:25:40 No.103952100
>>103951997
GPU cooler designs were already perfected long ago, the perfect cooler design is called the blower type
it sucks air in, pushes it across the heatsink, and then neatly exhausts it from your case
retards don't buy blower cards anymore because they are louder, and normies have an obsession with making their PC as quiet as possible even though they can't hear it with their headphones on anyway
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:28:14 No.103952118
Case fan
Where can I buy a case with a fan like that?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:31:47 No.103952153
>>103951992
You can't use GPU Scaling with options to center the custom desktop resolution without stretching or only scale with aspect ratio or force it with CRU?
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU
https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nvdsp/CS_Display_Scaling.htm
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:33:59 No.103952174
>4080s has a wired noise profile at idle rpm
should I rma it and ask for similar priced 5080 replacement?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:41:32 No.103952237
bh
>>103952118
Go back about 15 years
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:49:06 No.103952283
Should I get a white 5080 AIB for my white PC build or try to score a FE?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:50:57 No.103952298
>>103952082
Those are the drillbit grooves. Feel free to add airflow using a 2mm bit.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:04:33 No.103952405
>>103952100
headphones are not comfy
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:10:57 No.103952447
newegg
Guy from last night, was convinced to get a 4070 instead of a 4060. How does this look?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:12:36 No.103952456
>>103952447
might as well wait for 5070
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:13:16 No.103952459
>>103952447
>tray 5700X
Get a tray 5700X3D off AliExpress
Pretty sure you can get it for a similar price with the coupons that'll be available in about a day
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:23:25 No.103952530
>>103952447
Why bother with a 4070 within weeks of the 5070's launch?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:23:28 No.103952531
>>103952456
Realistically would I be able to get the 5070 at MSRP?
>>103952459
Ah, so that's why it was a little cheaper. Should I be buying mainly from Aliexpress?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:27:36 No.103952554
>>103952530
People on discord said 4070 would be a good buy.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:34:58 No.103952583
>>103952554
>people said
Come on man you need to do your own research. For starters you've picked the non super which is already a little slower than the super version just for a small $50 discount from MSRP, on an almost 2 year old card. In addition to that the 5070, which is supposedly around 20% faster than the 4070, is also going to launch at $550 anyway so you'd be leaving performance on the table by buying right now. Not to mention the 9070XT may give the 5070 a run for its money at a similar price bracket. Waiting seems to be better option at this point barring supply issues.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:40:21 No.103952602
>>103952153
Yeah that's what I'm doing right now. My display died on me so I'm using a friends old 27". I fucking hate it.
To get 24" I need to use 2304x1296 however some games and recording software doesn't like it. So I'm out of luck.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:42:48 No.103952610
465645654
>>103952554
There's no sense in buying a 2-year old GPU right before it's replacement launches in a matter of weeks. Best case you pay the same amount for an extra 15-20% on the newer gen card. Worst case buy the old card at the same or lower price as store discount them to clear stock (perhaps much lower if you don't mind buying used as users offload their old 4070s on Ebay to upgrade).

>>103952531
>Ah, so that's why it was a little cheaper. Should I be buying mainly from Aliexpress?
At least for AMD CPUs yes. But I wouldn't bother buying into AM4 at this point as there's no real upgrade path available for it. You can get a 7500F, which after PBO is enable is basically equivalent to a 5700X3D/7600X in gaming performance along with a good DDR5 kit and AM5 socket mobo for less these days and still be able to drop in a far more powerful CPU later on cheaply without having to rebuy the Mobo/RAM in a brand-new platform:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807886761748.html
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ZsBrM
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:44:37 No.103952618
>>103952610
>for an extra 15-20%*
*15-20% performance /fixed
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:50:56 No.103952664
almost there
>>103950869
hello german autism software chad
>>103950745
>CPU temps and power draw of said CPU posted
0 (zero)
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)02:59:12 No.103952700
>>103952610
Don't know if 5070 from 4070 will be a major upgrade. Plus, we don't know how hard it will get scalped. In the meantime he can get the 4070 now and get to gaming with RTX and DLSS sooner.
>>103952583
I remember this chap from yesterday, and he said he specifically wanted Nvidia so no 9970XT. As for the Super, I agree he should looked into that one.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:02:57 No.103952716
>>103950869
>>103952664
stupid euro faggots with the wrong air config. Literally using front fans as exhaust.. wtf is that shit.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:05:31 No.103952725
>>103951012
what does she have against all our lungs? I'm trying to breathe here
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:11:01 No.103952759
>5080 is starting at 2000 dollaydoos
>4080s is 1700
I don't know if waiting is even worth it desu
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:13:58 No.103952780
>>103952759
If you're looking to get a 5080 then it doesn't appear to be worth it, just get the 4080 now and enjoy it until the 6080 drops in a few years.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:15:44 No.103952788
>>103952780
I think I'll just wait for some more leaks but I think you might be right
300 is a large difference for the suspected 5%
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:17:14 No.103952800
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:17:36 No.103952802
>>103952788
You could always buy the card and wait for reviews, if the performance uplift is significant you return it and buy the 5080.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:19:55 No.103952812
>>103950482
Haha it's 0c and snowing right now and I was just thinking it's too hot out.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:23:37 No.103952825
>>103952788
>5%
Why the fuck does this number just get smaller and smaller every time someone posts about it for no reason?
Even Nvidia's own lower bound is 15% (RE4R & Horizon FW) while their upper bound is 35% (Far Cry 6 & Plague Tale Requiem)
Expect an average 20% - 25%, not 5%
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:28:38 No.103952845
used 4080 or 5070 ti ?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:31:54 No.103952870
>>103952845
No one can tell you anything because 5070 Ti reviews won't be out until late Feb
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:43:50 No.103952932
file
some of you niggas really be like this
the fethishization of ultra-high-end cpus must stop
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:44:57 No.103952941
>>103952610
>no sense in buying a 2-year old GPU right before it's replacement launches in a matter of weeks
it's like you weren't here when rtx 4000 launched
or rtx 3000
or rtx 2000
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:45:59 No.103952947
>>103952932
>stop liking things I can't afford
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:48:19 No.103952966
>>103952947
more like stop mating ferrari transmissions to junkyard honda engines
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:49:03 No.103952971
>>103952845
5070ti for dlss4 mfg.
40 series and everything below is dead because of no mfg support

just like old phone don't get updates anymore at a certain point.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:50:47 No.103952984
would go for a 7800x3d instead of a 9800x3d because of efficiency reasons?
doesn't the 9800x3d draw almost double the watts the 7800x3d does?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:54:02 No.103952997
>>103952984
You can just set the 9800X3D to the same PPT as the 7800X3D in the BIOS if you're that worried about power draw
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:05:50 No.103953070
>>103952966
the proart model costs more than a 4080
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:10:05 No.103953097
geforce-ray-tracing-half-life-2-rtx-on-2048@2x
>>103948932
it has full bandwidth hdmi2.1 ports so you will escape the DSC Jew at 4k144 if you have a hdmi2.1 gpu
140ppi is too small to use unscaled at desktop still, imo, but your opinion might vary
what I'm saying is essentially you might end up with the same or slightly more real estate as the QHD monitor after scaling, unless you use 100% native, but you will get more pixels for muh details
if you intend on 100% native I would go even larger 42"+
but that is my take, if you have eagle eyes sure use 140ppi 4k native

>>103949403
9800x3d is cooler than the past x3ds
tf

>>103949450
look at those cankles, actual hog

>>103949998
600w gpu + mobo + ram cooling > 100w cpu cooling

>>103950067
that poozen arch did not scale with frequency in gaymes very good, does not mean its not relevant

>>103952932
>ultra high end
>a slopper 8 core
this shit should cost 300$ at best
but now we are at double for a fucking 8 core
amd did put on the small hat long ago

>>103952984
why would you care about such small irrelevant things?

>>103949454
>>103949411
the fact that you CAN use a dual tower on a 9800x3d should be seen as a benefit not a negative to be forced to use the aio meme
it's fine, why would it not be?
8 cores could be cooled by dual towers for forever, you could run a 9900k on it too
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:12:31 No.103953111
>>103949429
Pcie 5 slot for the GPU (wont be needed for at least 2 or 3 more GPU gens), More M.2 slots, more and faster USB ports, faster networking, nothing that really is needed by the average gamer, more for those with productivity in mind
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:12:56 No.103953114
>>103953070
is it a 4080, though?
let's say it is, is a 9800x3d warranted?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:16:12 No.103953138
>>103948204
>1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
>4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
>Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa

Did we really upset the Nvidia shill faggot this hard?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:17:19 No.103953145
>>103953097
Should I buy this game to use the levels in Anarchy Arcade?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:18:49 No.103953161
AHHHH DO I NEED A 5090 AHHHHH I HAVE NO MONEY SHOULD I TAKE OUT A CREDIT CARD AAAAHHHH
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:22:37 No.103953183
If you get a 13 year old to steal a GPU, there's basically no risk for either of you
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:24:15 No.103953197
>>103953161
Only put things on credit that you can already afford to buy with cash
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:25:31 No.103953201
>>103953197
Why? I can just put my computer under a bridge somewhere.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:27:47 No.103953218
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:05:15 No.103953441
>>103953145
>buy hl2
it was free a few weeks ago

>>103953161
gotta build up your credit some how
think of this as your entry to real estate investing
buy 5090, get credit, take loan, buy multi duplex house, rinse repeat
you americans have it on easy mode