/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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Actual Hardware Edition
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
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Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:49:27 No.103938851
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:50:00 No.103938857
>bought three different XV275K, all had stuck pixel problems
Can anyone recommend a different 27" 4k 144+ monitor?
Can anyone recommend a different 27" 4k 144+ monitor?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:50:18 No.103938862
>>103938830
literally the only time a Shittel would make sense is if you're using Adobe products or something weird that requires super high single thread frequency. For developer tools, code compile, SMT, etc. the 9950 absolutely rapes it.
literally the only time a Shittel would make sense is if you're using Adobe products or something weird that requires super high single thread frequency. For developer tools, code compile, SMT, etc. the 9950 absolutely rapes it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:50:24 No.103938865
>>103938851
it's $800 here
it's $800 here
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:50:30 No.103938867
Fourth for AMDomination
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:51:11 No.103938870
>amdunboxed
>intelinsidejayztwocents
>intelinsidejayztwocents
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:51:38 No.103938876
>>103938862
>Adobe products or something weird that requires super high single thread frequency
Many programs fall into this user case, and Adobe products are huge especially Photoshop and the video ones.
>Adobe products or something weird that requires super high single thread frequency
Many programs fall into this user case, and Adobe products are huge especially Photoshop and the video ones.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:51:57 No.103938879
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:52:28 No.103938884
>MLID
retard
retard
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:52:29 No.103938885
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:52:38 No.103938888
>>103938867
I'll buy it for $550 and no more
I'll buy it for $550 and no more
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:53:30 No.103938894
>>103938851
its 1400aud lol build quality is crap
its 1400aud lol build quality is crap
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:53:38 No.103938896
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:53:38 No.103938897
>>103938879
No, 48xtx there refers to the 9070xt and the 48xt is the regular 9070.
No, 48xtx there refers to the 9070xt and the 48xt is the regular 9070.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:53:48 No.103938899
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ6NeSGad4I
Holy shit bros
>>103938867
Yeah I was really skeptical at first when he leaked that it had roughly 4080 performance almost a year ago but maybe it was true all along.
Holy shit bros
>>103938867
Yeah I was really skeptical at first when he leaked that it had roughly 4080 performance almost a year ago but maybe it was true all along.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:53:56 No.103938904
>nvidia still using cyberpunk in its showcases in 2025
what is this hypothetical future game we're supposed to be planning our builds around
what is this hypothetical future game we're supposed to be planning our builds around
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:54:10 No.103938910
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:54:53 No.103938913
>>103938867
Damn these must be true because MLID posted it
Just like he was right about $1500 RTX 5080
Damn these must be true because MLID posted it
Just like he was right about $1500 RTX 5080
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:54:56 No.103938914
>>103938910
amd won second place
amd won second place
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:55:00 No.103938916
>>103938910
dont care my 79xtx will last me a decade or more
dont care my 79xtx will last me a decade or more
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:55:35 No.103938922
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:56:01 No.103938926
>>103938896
its 1800aud on amazog
its 1800aud on amazog
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:56:56 No.103938931
>>103938870
>>amdunboxed
How are they amdunboxed when they
>literally coined the term "better than native" that the nvidia shill loves to use
>constantly shit on AMD and FSR
>spent months shitting on zen5
>shit on every single rx7000 GPU that was released
>>amdunboxed
How are they amdunboxed when they
>literally coined the term "better than native" that the nvidia shill loves to use
>constantly shit on AMD and FSR
>spent months shitting on zen5
>shit on every single rx7000 GPU that was released
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:56:59 No.103938932
>>103938867
I really don't think better than the 7800XT is the win they need
I really don't think better than the 7800XT is the win they need
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:57:12 No.103938937
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:58:09 No.103938950
>>103938922
I don't believe anything MLID puts out. I'm calling out all the AyyMDfags that think MLID is a legitimate source of anything
I don't believe anything MLID puts out. I'm calling out all the AyyMDfags that think MLID is a legitimate source of anything
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:58:39 No.103938954
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:58:54 No.103938956
>>103938931
Because they are blatantly AMDUnboxed and everyone knows it. But at least they have personal reasons to hate nvidia after Nvidia insulted them directly and is still raping all of australia with the worst pricing in the world even worse than south america.
Because they are blatantly AMDUnboxed and everyone knows it. But at least they have personal reasons to hate nvidia after Nvidia insulted them directly and is still raping all of australia with the worst pricing in the world even worse than south america.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:58:56 No.103938958
>>103938888
Amd is still selling 7900xt and 7800xt for $700 and $500 so i expect amd to price 9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
Amd is still selling 7900xt and 7800xt for $700 and $500 so i expect amd to price 9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:59:13 No.103938963
>>103938931
>literally coined the term "better than native" that the nvidia shill loves to use
wtf are you talking about
this came from digital foundry since they were on the DLSS upscaling train from day 1 of DLSS2
>literally coined the term "better than native" that the nvidia shill loves to use
wtf are you talking about
this came from digital foundry since they were on the DLSS upscaling train from day 1 of DLSS2
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:00:14 No.103938973
>>103938958
>9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
its doa at those prices it get stomped by a 79xtx and rtx 5070ti
>9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
its doa at those prices it get stomped by a 79xtx and rtx 5070ti
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:00:19 No.103938975
>>103938904
There isn't one. If what you're trying to ask is which game that unironically took thousands of individual contributors a decade to make and so it gets a comparable marketing push and is in everyone's face, and so you plan your build around it, the answer is GTA6 will be the next one.
There isn't one. If what you're trying to ask is which game that unironically took thousands of individual contributors a decade to make and so it gets a comparable marketing push and is in everyone's face, and so you plan your build around it, the answer is GTA6 will be the next one.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:00:44 No.103938980
>>103938963
Sorry I don't watch nvidiaFoundry.
>>103938956
They shit on AMD as much as they do Intel and nvidia.
Sorry I don't watch nvidiaFoundry.
>>103938956
They shit on AMD as much as they do Intel and nvidia.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:00:58 No.103938982
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:01:18 No.103938985
>>103938867
If this is true, nvidia supers will be launched within 6-9 months
If this is true, nvidia supers will be launched within 6-9 months
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:01:27 No.103938989
>>103938931
>Nvidia shows off gpu
*Shat all over it*
>Amd showed nothing
OMG AMD IS HIDDING SOMETHING. WAMD WON BROS!!!!1
>Nvidia shows off gpu
*Shat all over it*
>Amd showed nothing
OMG AMD IS HIDDING SOMETHING. WAMD WON BROS!!!!1
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:02:00 No.103938995
>>103938958
No the 9070xt will be $549 and the 9070 will be $479. The 79xtx will drop to $500 and the 79xt to $429, all the others will follow.
No the 9070xt will be $549 and the 9070 will be $479. The 79xtx will drop to $500 and the 79xt to $429, all the others will follow.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:02:09 No.103938998
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:02:36 No.103939001
>>103938989
He's right that the 5070 isn't a 4090
He's right that the 5070 isn't a 4090
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:03:13 No.103939004
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:03:18 No.103939006
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:03:25 No.103939010
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:03:31 No.103939013
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:03:58 No.103939016
>>103938989
If shitting on the 5070=4090 claim makes you an AMD shill then all the YouTubers are AMD shills.
If shitting on the 5070=4090 claim makes you an AMD shill then all the YouTubers are AMD shills.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:04:13 No.103939021
>>103939004
tempted to just buy one for the lols and saying it never arrived
any ausfags know how nvidia ships their gpus in aus?
tempted to just buy one for the lols and saying it never arrived
any ausfags know how nvidia ships their gpus in aus?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:04:23 No.103939023
>>103938989
You're just telling us you're a retard fanboy, they didn't say anything of the sort. 5070 doesn't perform anywhere near a 4090, btw, get over it.
You're just telling us you're a retard fanboy, they didn't say anything of the sort. 5070 doesn't perform anywhere near a 4090, btw, get over it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:05:10 No.103939031
>>103939016
>then all the YouTubers are AMD shills.
Congratulations you finally get it.
All the same youtubers that tell people buy AMD and use Nvidia at home, just like MLID and the rest of them.
They'll all have 5090s just like they all had 4090s.
>then all the YouTubers are AMD shills.
Congratulations you finally get it.
All the same youtubers that tell people buy AMD and use Nvidia at home, just like MLID and the rest of them.
They'll all have 5090s just like they all had 4090s.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:05:12 No.103939033
>IT WILL LAUNCH IN 2 MONTHS IN OCTOBER GUYS!!
yep very reliable source you got there
yep very reliable source you got there
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:05:23 No.103939035
>>103939006
He's right and you're wrong, you can't even defend anything you say so you're copying someone else's argument now.
He's right and you're wrong, you can't even defend anything you say so you're copying someone else's argument now.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:05:43 No.103939039
>>103939010
Intel has a driver overhead problem just like AMD and nvidia. The problem is that Intel's is worse than their competitors.
Intel has a driver overhead problem just like AMD and nvidia. The problem is that Intel's is worse than their competitors.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:06:41 No.103939043
>>103939031
faggots the lot of them had no issues with my a770 and 7900xtx
faggots the lot of them had no issues with my a770 and 7900xtx
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:06:49 No.103939045
>>103939035
No I'm right. They hate nvidia because nvidia insulted them and australia seethes over the pricing.
AMDUnboxed is who they are and who they'll always be.
No I'm right. They hate nvidia because nvidia insulted them and australia seethes over the pricing.
AMDUnboxed is who they are and who they'll always be.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:07:15 No.103939048
>>103939039
Gamers nexus said he found nothing and that its still a best value gpu if you use a 12400 or 5600x
Gamers nexus said he found nothing and that its still a best value gpu if you use a 12400 or 5600x
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:07:22 No.103939051
>>103939031
You have the thinnest skin possible.
You have the thinnest skin possible.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:07:41 No.103939054
>>103939048
He's wrong, and multiple people have shown that.
He's wrong, and multiple people have shown that.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:07:52 No.103939055
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:08:22 No.103939058
>>103939031
>All the same youtubers that tell people buy AMD and use Nvidia at home
???
The 4090 was objectively the best, most powerful gaming GPU period, full stop. No one ever argued against that.
100% of the issues with nvidia are pricing and QA related, neither of which matters when you're a youtuber with a six- or seven-figure salary.
>All the same youtubers that tell people buy AMD and use Nvidia at home
???
The 4090 was objectively the best, most powerful gaming GPU period, full stop. No one ever argued against that.
100% of the issues with nvidia are pricing and QA related, neither of which matters when you're a youtuber with a six- or seven-figure salary.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:08:40 No.103939061
>>103939016
Did you watch the video? she shat on other all the 5000 series gpus
Did you watch the video? she shat on other all the 5000 series gpus
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:08:49 No.103939063
>>103939045
>incredible seething
Hardware Unboxed is easily the best source of raw data and they're entirely impartial.
>incredible seething
Hardware Unboxed is easily the best source of raw data and they're entirely impartial.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:09:41 No.103939077
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:09:50 No.103939081
>>103939061
No, he didn't. You're just a cocksucker who is upset.
No, he didn't. You're just a cocksucker who is upset.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:10:18 No.103939086
https://github.com/CXWorld/CapFrameX/releases
Support Nvidia RTX 50 series
Support DLSS 4 (Multi Frame Generation)
MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics provide enhanced consistency when using frame interpolation technologies, offering a more accurate reflection of the user experience. This new option is disabled by default, but enabling it is strongly recommended for benchmarks with Intel's Arc B series and XeSS Frame Generation. Standard metrics fail to fully capture the true user experience, making MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics a valuable addition for precise performance evaluation.
Important: Enable MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics in option menu when using DLSS4!
NVIDIA WON
THANK YOU NVIDIA
Support Nvidia RTX 50 series
Support DLSS 4 (Multi Frame Generation)
MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics provide enhanced consistency when using frame interpolation technologies, offering a more accurate reflection of the user experience. This new option is disabled by default, but enabling it is strongly recommended for benchmarks with Intel's Arc B series and XeSS Frame Generation. Standard metrics fail to fully capture the true user experience, making MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics a valuable addition for precise performance evaluation.
Important: Enable MsBetweenDisplayChange metrics in option menu when using DLSS4!
NVIDIA WON
THANK YOU NVIDIA
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:10:23 No.103939087
>>103939063
Monitors unboxed is great. I like the Tim dude. The other guy is a blatant AMD shill and I refuse to watch any of his videos.
Monitors unboxed is great. I like the Tim dude. The other guy is a blatant AMD shill and I refuse to watch any of his videos.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:10:39 No.103939090
>>103939081
you clearly didnt watch the video amdunboxed ecleb cock sucker
you clearly didnt watch the video amdunboxed ecleb cock sucker
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:11:57 No.103939097
2 representatives from AMDUnboxed at their damage control press briefing lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:12:01 No.103939098
Can't get myself to press buy on my parts list
makes me feel sick
makes me feel sick
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:12:18 No.103939102
>>103939077
None of the CPU or GPU chip manufacturers advertise on any hardware review channel and they're entirely impartial. HWU even buys most of the equipment they test, including a $4K workstation GPU just to see if it gave any difference to Geforce gaming cards.
None of the CPU or GPU chip manufacturers advertise on any hardware review channel and they're entirely impartial. HWU even buys most of the equipment they test, including a $4K workstation GPU just to see if it gave any difference to Geforce gaming cards.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:13:09 No.103939108
>>103938857
My spectrum of recommendations:
Budget pick 4K@144Hz - KTC H27P22 ($280 after Instant Coupon):
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-DisPlayPort-Adjustable-Mountable-H27P22/dp/B0DKJNKBC8
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-h27t22-review/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/KTC-H27P22S-gaming-monitor-review-No-frills-4K-IPS-in-27-inches-for-under-399.862097.0.html
Upgrade option (4K@160Hz @ $360) - MSI MAG 274UPF E2:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q9fxFT/msi-mag-274upf-e2-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-mag-274upf-e2
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/mag-274upf
^Same panel just at a lower refresh rate
Splurge (4K@160Hz w/QD for expanded color gamut 99% Adobe RGB, $390) - MSI MPG 274URF QD
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xhcgXL/msi-mpg-274urf-qd-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-mpg-274urf-qd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV46Q_xs9M4
If it were me I'd either go with the KTC and pocket the savings or save up for a 1440p QD-OLED starting @ $500 as contrast/colors and response times are more important than pure resolution for image quality:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2
My spectrum of recommendations:
Budget pick 4K@144Hz - KTC H27P22 ($280 after Instant Coupon):
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-DisPlayP
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-h2
https://www.notebookcheck.net/KTC-H
Upgrade option (4K@160Hz @ $360) - MSI MAG 274UPF E2:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q9
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/revi
^Same panel just at a lower refresh rate
Splurge (4K@160Hz w/QD for expanded color gamut 99% Adobe RGB, $390) - MSI MPG 274URF QD
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV4
If it were me I'd either go with the KTC and pocket the savings or save up for a 1440p QD-OLED starting @ $500 as contrast/colors and response times are more important than pure resolution for image quality:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7L
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:14:04 No.103939112
>>103939097
>talking to people who make hardware means you're biased
That means you're doing your job.
>talking to people who make hardware means you're biased
That means you're doing your job.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:15:17 No.103939125
After the B580 raping by the 4060 AMDSteve told people to buy the RX7600, which the B580 still outperformed lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:15:57 No.103939128
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:16:35 No.103939135
>>103939112
>Literally the entire tech world press at the event
>make space for TWO AMDUnboxed representatives at your "small press circle"
holy shit lmao
>Literally the entire tech world press at the event
>make space for TWO AMDUnboxed representatives at your "small press circle"
holy shit lmao
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:17:10 No.103939141
>>103938835
guys where should i look for deals on pc hardware and laptops?
guys where should i look for deals on pc hardware and laptops?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:18:25 No.103939149
>>103939087
Steve is one of the few reviewers who goes out and reviews a bunch of motherboards
Steve is one of the few reviewers who goes out and reviews a bunch of motherboards
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:19:25 No.103939155
>>103939102
You can easily not take ad money from AMD Intel or Nvidia
Unless you are AMDUnboxed then it's fine to take AMD's money but not Nvidia's.
You can easily not take ad money from AMD Intel or Nvidia
Unless you are AMDUnboxed then it's fine to take AMD's money but not Nvidia's.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:19:30 No.103939157
>>103939102
Intel use to sponsor ltt and now AMD took over after Intel stopped.
Intel use to sponsor ltt and now AMD took over after Intel stopped.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:20:31 No.103939163
>>103939135
Name someone who benchmarks components, was at the event, and wasn't invited.
>>103939155
None of the CPU or GPU chip manufacturers advertise on any hardware review channel and they're entirely impartial.
Name someone who benchmarks components, was at the event, and wasn't invited.
>>103939155
None of the CPU or GPU chip manufacturers advertise on any hardware review channel and they're entirely impartial.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:21:18 No.103939169
>>103939125
Because no one can purchase a B580 period, let alone at it's MSRP. And even if and when you can if this is a drop-in upgrade in an older system depending on the game and settings the 7600/4060 will outperform it.
Because no one can purchase a B580 period, let alone at it's MSRP. And even if and when you can if this is a drop-in upgrade in an older system depending on the game and settings the 7600/4060 will outperform it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:21:39 No.103939171
>>103938950
you must be a sped if you think that slide is faked, maybe it's a bunch of cherrypicked games, but it's clearly a real slide
you must be a sped if you think that slide is faked, maybe it's a bunch of cherrypicked games, but it's clearly a real slide
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:24:03 No.103939188
>>103939163
>Name someone who benchmarks components, was at the event, and wasn't invited.
Two people from Digital Foundry were at CES with one of them being Alex
>Name someone who benchmarks components, was at the event, and wasn't invited.
Two people from Digital Foundry were at CES with one of them being Alex
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:25:04 No.103939190
>>103939141
PCPartPicker
PCPartPicker
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:25:07 No.103939192
>>103939033
>correct
>not sure
>correct
>correct
>correct for 9070 but not 9070xt
>correct
>correct
>correct
>wrong
You've only convinced me more anon
>correct
>not sure
>correct
>correct
>correct for 9070 but not 9070xt
>correct
>correct
>correct
>wrong
You've only convinced me more anon
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:25:40 No.103939198
>>103938973
AMD are not that stupid. They know they need to significantly undercut the 5070 with the 9070 and the 5070Ti with the 9070 XT.
AMD are not that stupid. They know they need to significantly undercut the 5070 with the 9070 and the 5070Ti with the 9070 XT.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:25:43 No.103939199
You know something is wrong when intel is ahead of you
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:26:14 No.103939204
>>103939010
GNSteve said like 12 times in the video Intel does have an overhead driver issues but at the settings they use in their suite of testing which min-maxes CPU/GPU utilization it won't show up. Except of course in Baldur's Gate 3. Does nobody actually watch these reviews and just skip to the end?
GNSteve said like 12 times in the video Intel does have an overhead driver issues but at the settings they use in their suite of testing which min-maxes CPU/GPU utilization it won't show up. Except of course in Baldur's Gate 3. Does nobody actually watch these reviews and just skip to the end?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:26:53 No.103939207
>>103939171
What about it confirms the data is real?
The slide is "real" in the same sense that I can open up PowerPoint and make a slide as well.
What about it confirms the data is real?
The slide is "real" in the same sense that I can open up PowerPoint and make a slide as well.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:27:33 No.103939212
>>103939163
LTT was there
Steve from Gamers Nexus was there
Paul from Paul's Hardware was there
Greg Salazar was there
The several media channels they prebriefed on the 9070 were there
It's CES
No wait, it was super important to make sure out of the 5 media we invite, two are from AMDUnboxed.
LTT was there
Steve from Gamers Nexus was there
Paul from Paul's Hardware was there
Greg Salazar was there
The several media channels they prebriefed on the 9070 were there
It's CES
No wait, it was super important to make sure out of the 5 media we invite, two are from AMDUnboxed.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:27:40 No.103939214
>>103939192
Tdp is 330 not "210 to 280"
Tdp is 330 not "210 to 280"
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:28:02 No.103939215
>>103939033
AMD and nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024, neither company hit their deadlines for whatever reason
AMD and nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024, neither company hit their deadlines for whatever reason
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:28:45 No.103939223
It’s going to be impossible to get a 5090.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:29:19 No.103939227
>>103939169
You can purchase the 4060 cheaper than you can purchase the B580 right now, and the 4060 beat it with weaker CPUs, so why is he recommending the RX 7600 which performs worse than both of those cards in all the same tests?
Because he's AMDUnboxed
You can purchase the 4060 cheaper than you can purchase the B580 right now, and the 4060 beat it with weaker CPUs, so why is he recommending the RX 7600 which performs worse than both of those cards in all the same tests?
Because he's AMDUnboxed
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:29:42 No.103939230
>>103939204
so what you are saying is amdunboxed purposedly left out the important part, which is that they cherry picked result so they can shit on anything that's not amd. got it.
so what you are saying is amdunboxed purposedly left out the important part, which is that they cherry picked result so they can shit on anything that's not amd. got it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:29:51 No.103939231
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:29:57 No.103939232
>>103939190
what if I am from a third world cunt?
what if I am from a third world cunt?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:30:46 No.103939239
>>103939232
You shouldn't call your mom's cunt third world
You shouldn't call your mom's cunt third world
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:31:20 No.103939243
>>103939227
Because the 7600 is better than the 4060. It's cheaper, has better raster performance, and neither of those cards are actually fit for ray tracing.
Because the 7600 is better than the 4060. It's cheaper, has better raster performance, and neither of those cards are actually fit for ray tracing.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:31:48 No.103939247
>>103939239
how new r u ..
how new r u ..
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:32:05 No.103939250
>>103939227
1. you're comparing street price with the price they actually want to get to
2. it's their literal 2nd gen card (Nvidia has had 25+ years exp on them)
3. it's bodying the 4060 kek, by a company that's in shambles right now under lawsuits and their CEO is getting rekt
1. you're comparing street price with the price they actually want to get to
2. it's their literal 2nd gen card (Nvidia has had 25+ years exp on them)
3. it's bodying the 4060 kek, by a company that's in shambles right now under lawsuits and their CEO is getting rekt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:32:42 No.103939257
>>103939232
How in the actual fuck should we know what random deals there are in wherethefuckistan?
How in the actual fuck should we know what random deals there are in wherethefuckistan?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:32:45 No.103939258
>>103939243
>7600 is better than the 4060
no one actually believes that unless you are and AMDelusional
>7600 is better than the 4060
no one actually believes that unless you are and AMDelusional
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:32:59 No.103939262
>>103939215
>AMD and nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024, neither company hit their deadlines for whatever reason
I wonder if they were both waiting in hopes that 3GB modules would have become available sooner to make their next-gen launch specs more impressive:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/samsung-unveils-24gb-gddr7-memory-up-to-42-5-gbps-modules-with-30-percent-higher-efficiency
>published October 17, 2024
>AMD and nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024, neither company hit their deadlines for whatever reason
I wonder if they were both waiting in hopes that 3GB modules would have become available sooner to make their next-gen launch specs more impressive:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com
>published October 17, 2024
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:33:36 No.103939266
>>103939199
Complete Intel domination soon on the budget range. Intel bros we are so back. wouldn't it be a strange turn of events to have their 3rd gen cards be actually good and have people buying AMD CPUs and Intel GPUs...
Complete Intel domination soon on the budget range. Intel bros we are so back. wouldn't it be a strange turn of events to have their 3rd gen cards be actually good and have people buying AMD CPUs and Intel GPUs...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:33:50 No.103939269
Is the RX 9000 series going to have any $300 cards?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:33:53 No.103939272
>>103939108
>none of them miniled
Genuinely a shame. I might try that 274URF.
>If it were me I'd either go with the KTC and pocket the savings or save up for a 1440p QD-OLED starting @ $500 as contrast/colors and response times are more important than pure resolution for image quality:
Funnily enough, money isn't really an issue. It's just that 4K at 27" is a barebones selection. I'd gladly go for oled if 27" 4k oled even existed.
And I don't want to settle for 1440p because I use 4k for other stuff (productivity, porn, videos, etc).
And I sit at or under 2 feet from my monitor so even 27" is already pushing it.
>none of them miniled
Genuinely a shame. I might try that 274URF.
>If it were me I'd either go with the KTC and pocket the savings or save up for a 1440p QD-OLED starting @ $500 as contrast/colors and response times are more important than pure resolution for image quality:
Funnily enough, money isn't really an issue. It's just that 4K at 27" is a barebones selection. I'd gladly go for oled if 27" 4k oled even existed.
And I don't want to settle for 1440p because I use 4k for other stuff (productivity, porn, videos, etc).
And I sit at or under 2 feet from my monitor so even 27" is already pushing it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:34:47 No.103939282
>>103939258
Everyone knows the 4060 is a bad graphics card.
>>103939262
I think it's more likely that TSMC is just backlogged. You can't just scale up 3GB module production instantly.
Everyone knows the 4060 is a bad graphics card.
>>103939262
I think it's more likely that TSMC is just backlogged. You can't just scale up 3GB module production instantly.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:34:47 No.103939283
>>103939272
if money isn't an issue then get a 5090 because you're not gonna be playing shit at 4k at 144hz with actual modern games with RTX enabled nigger
if money isn't an issue then get a 5090 because you're not gonna be playing shit at 4k at 144hz with actual modern games with RTX enabled nigger
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:35:01 No.103939288
how much are these people getting paid
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:35:36 No.103939294
>>103939108
>>103939272
Oh, and genuinely thank you for responding. This is surprisingly difficult to research when monitor naming schemes are pure ass and half these models have maybe one review total.
>>103939283
Does the 5090 double as a monitor?? Link?
>>103939272
Oh, and genuinely thank you for responding. This is surprisingly difficult to research when monitor naming schemes are pure ass and half these models have maybe one review total.
>>103939283
Does the 5090 double as a monitor?? Link?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:36:07 No.103939299
>>103939262
They were definitely waiting for gddr7, I remember that originally when it was revealed by micron/skhynix/Samsung they had AMD and nvidia next gen GPUs using them. Then we had delays and at the end only the 2gb modules were released and months later, they were supposed to be ready by q4 2024 if I remember correctly.
They were definitely waiting for gddr7, I remember that originally when it was revealed by micron/skhynix/Samsung they had AMD and nvidia next gen GPUs using them. Then we had delays and at the end only the 2gb modules were released and months later, they were supposed to be ready by q4 2024 if I remember correctly.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:36:14 No.103939300
>>103939243
>>Because the 7600 is better than the 4060
lmao even AMDUnboxed showed it wasn't but that didn't stop them saying buy it, so much is AMDSteve's hatred of Nvidia
>>103939250
He's gone full AMDelusional, the B580's jewish tricks were exposed. AMDUnboxed didn't mind doing it because who cares about Intel nobody except UserCopeMark
>>Because the 7600 is better than the 4060
lmao even AMDUnboxed showed it wasn't but that didn't stop them saying buy it, so much is AMDSteve's hatred of Nvidia
>>103939250
He's gone full AMDelusional, the B580's jewish tricks were exposed. AMDUnboxed didn't mind doing it because who cares about Intel nobody except UserCopeMark
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:36:52 No.103939306
This place a shithole
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:37:07 No.103939309
>>103939269
No, but expect the 7000 to drop in price.
No, but expect the 7000 to drop in price.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:37:26 No.103939312
>>103939269
>Is the RX 9000 series going to have any $300 cards?
I would be surprised if they do considering their won't even be a halo product. Seems like AMD is going to drop two RDNA4 cards and then immediately focus on their next-gen UDNA architecture. Probably let the 7700/7800 XTs rot on shelves into $3XX by Black Friday instead.
>Is the RX 9000 series going to have any $300 cards?
I would be surprised if they do considering their won't even be a halo product. Seems like AMD is going to drop two RDNA4 cards and then immediately focus on their next-gen UDNA architecture. Probably let the 7700/7800 XTs rot on shelves into $3XX by Black Friday instead.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:37:39 No.103939315
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:37:50 No.103939318
>>103939227
>>103939243
>>103939258
the real recommendation is that absolutely nothing in the $300 price class is worth buying, spend a hundred bucks more and get a 7700xt or 4060ti 16gb, they obliterate the 7600 and 4060 respectively
>>103939243
>>103939258
the real recommendation is that absolutely nothing in the $300 price class is worth buying, spend a hundred bucks more and get a 7700xt or 4060ti 16gb, they obliterate the 7600 and 4060 respectively
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:38:09 No.103939320
>>103939306
Sadly now we're filled with retards acting like trolls and shills.
Sadly now we're filled with retards acting like trolls and shills.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:38:39 No.103939325
>>103939288
They're in for a massive bonus when an AMD dGPU breaks into the top 30 on steam
COME ON RX 6600
YOU CAN DO IT
They're in for a massive bonus when an AMD dGPU breaks into the top 30 on steam
COME ON RX 6600
YOU CAN DO IT
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:40:02 No.103939335
>>103938958
about what i expect. amd switched from 6nm to 4nm so the same as nvidia
about what i expect. amd switched from 6nm to 4nm so the same as nvidia
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:40:49 No.103939345
>>103938899
Honestly this is the type of performance I expected from the 9070xt, now we just need a decent price.
Honestly this is the type of performance I expected from the 9070xt, now we just need a decent price.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:41:06 No.103939348
>>103939315
>Already given up
The world turns and AMDUnboxed will always be AMDUnboxed
>Youtubers are impartial
LOL LMAO EVEN
>Already given up
The world turns and AMDUnboxed will always be AMDUnboxed
>Youtubers are impartial
LOL LMAO EVEN
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:41:47 No.103939352
>>103938958
>9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
given the extremely low supply of 50xx cards this wouldn't surprise me
>9070 xt at $800 and 9070 at $600
given the extremely low supply of 50xx cards this wouldn't surprise me
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:42:48 No.103939368
>>103939345
9070XT will be $499, I've said it for weeks now. The XTX version will be $599 and absolutely rape the 5070 and 5080 and AMD will sell it as a loss to gain market share again like how the consoles did in the mid 2000s to gain share. Screenshot this post.
9070XT will be $499, I've said it for weeks now. The XTX version will be $599 and absolutely rape the 5070 and 5080 and AMD will sell it as a loss to gain market share again like how the consoles did in the mid 2000s to gain share. Screenshot this post.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:42:50 No.103939369
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:43:35 No.103939376
>>103939368
lol
lol
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:43:58 No.103939377
Do I really need windows 11 if I have a 14700kf? I only care about gaming
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:44:03 No.103939379
Don't worry Nvidia shill, still buying AMD.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:44:28 No.103939383
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:45:23 No.103939388
>>103939318
I miss when GPU die yields were awful and we got cast off models that were 60-80% as good as the full-fat version for 40-50% of their price. The market needs more 7900 GREs and less 5080s. Good leading edge silicon manufacturing has been a disaster for consumers with how precisely AMD, Intel, & Nvidia can bin their product specs and anchor prices accordingly. I want manufacturing to be so bad that 80% of Nvidia's TSMC line allocation is unfit to be sold to AI/ML clients.
I miss when GPU die yields were awful and we got cast off models that were 60-80% as good as the full-fat version for 40-50% of their price. The market needs more 7900 GREs and less 5080s. Good leading edge silicon manufacturing has been a disaster for consumers with how precisely AMD, Intel, & Nvidia can bin their product specs and anchor prices accordingly. I want manufacturing to be so bad that 80% of Nvidia's TSMC line allocation is unfit to be sold to AI/ML clients.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:45:28 No.103939389
>>103939377
None of those things are connected to each other
None of those things are connected to each other
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:45:45 No.103939393
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:47:05 No.103939406
So my SSD randomly decided to stop working Samsung 970 Evo I bought years back. It wouldn't be recognized at boot and I tried scanning it for errors in bios, changing CSM and UEFI to no avail. Ended up having to fork out money for new SSD's and got the Samsung 990 Pro. Windows bootable couldn't detect the old SSD for repair, so installed everything back on the new.
SSD ended up showing using an external connector. I virus scanned, sfc diskpart checked, Crystal checked and it's in good health. Like wtf is this drive dying?
SSD ended up showing using an external connector. I virus scanned, sfc diskpart checked, Crystal checked and it's in good health. Like wtf is this drive dying?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:47:43 No.103939410
>>103939393
it means there's a lot of old amd gpu owner switched over to nvidia
it means there's a lot of old amd gpu owner switched over to nvidia
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:49:56 No.103939424
>>103939389
CPU Scheduler
CPU Scheduler
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:52:44 No.103939449
>>103939369
>get totally rekt
>cry muh /pol/
lol
AMDUnboxed will A L W A Y S be AMDUnboxed
Cope and seethe AMDSteve
>get totally rekt
>cry muh /pol/
lol
AMDUnboxed will A L W A Y S be AMDUnboxed
Cope and seethe AMDSteve
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:52:47 No.103939451
>>103939406
>SSD ended up showing using an external connector
Did you try another M.2 slot? Maybe a bad mobo trace or something.
>SSD ended up showing using an external connector
Did you try another M.2 slot? Maybe a bad mobo trace or something.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:53:14 No.103939454
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:53:17 No.103939456
>>103939406
how many years is "years back?"
also, samsung has software that will tell you how much data has been written to the drive
did you check that?
how many years is "years back?"
also, samsung has software that will tell you how much data has been written to the drive
did you check that?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:55:02 No.103939472
>>103939325
It's unironically fucking grim that until just a few months ago, the RX 580 was still the AMD dGPU with the highest marketshare in the Steam survey
>no RX 7000 GPUs until way down the list
It's unironically fucking grim that until just a few months ago, the RX 580 was still the AMD dGPU with the highest marketshare in the Steam survey
>no RX 7000 GPUs until way down the list
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:55:45 No.103939477
>>103939451
It doesn't matter what slot because it won't boot from the external either.
>>103939456
5 years ago.
To show if its reached the max limits of writes? There's no way I reached that limit.
It doesn't matter what slot because it won't boot from the external either.
>>103939456
5 years ago.
To show if its reached the max limits of writes? There's no way I reached that limit.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:56:10 No.103939480
>>103939454
AMDUnboxed, you know the guys. LMAO
AMDUnboxed, you know the guys. LMAO
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:56:58 No.103939482
>>103939325
Hey I have owned both these GPUs
Hey I have owned both these GPUs
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:58:00 No.103939486
>>103939472
They announced a new RX 580 last year
They announced a new RX 580 last year
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:00:30 No.103939498
>>103939325
Why the fuck would any game dev even bother optimizing for Radeon or implementing Radeon features with such abysmal marketshare?
Why the fuck would any game dev even bother optimizing for Radeon or implementing Radeon features with such abysmal marketshare?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:00:57 No.103939501
>>103939486
I really have to contemplate if these are actual new dies.
Either AMD has an insane stockpile of 580 chips or Biostar is using recycled dies which I would be surprised of given biostar is or was a legit company
I really have to contemplate if these are actual new dies.
Either AMD has an insane stockpile of 580 chips or Biostar is using recycled dies which I would be surprised of given biostar is or was a legit company
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:03:16 No.103939514
>>103939383
Don’t expect too much. Amd will still sell rdna3 for a very very long time. Heck even the new z2 chip will still use rdna3.
Don’t expect too much. Amd will still sell rdna3 for a very very long time. Heck even the new z2 chip will still use rdna3.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:08:04 No.103939541
>>103939498
If you look at the video game market as a hole with consoles included isn't Radeon marketshare actually really high? The question is why would game devs waste time optimizing for Nvidia when their cheap console ports are already developed with native AMD silicon in mind (excluding the Tegra in Switch releases)?
If you look at the video game market as a hole with consoles included isn't Radeon marketshare actually really high? The question is why would game devs waste time optimizing for Nvidia when their cheap console ports are already developed with native AMD silicon in mind (excluding the Tegra in Switch releases)?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:08:59 No.103939548
>>103939383
>$750
How is amd ever going to get marketshare like this?
>9070 xt is considered mid range according amd
Fuck me, when did mid-range became $750
>$750
How is amd ever going to get marketshare like this?
>9070 xt is considered mid range according amd
Fuck me, when did mid-range became $750
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:09:30 No.103939552
>>103939514
Margins are lower on mobile/console gaming APUs, so it makes sense to stay on older & proven IPs.
The original PS5's GPU was somewhere between RDNA1 and 2 (no infinity cache).
Margins are lower on mobile/console gaming APUs, so it makes sense to stay on older & proven IPs.
The original PS5's GPU was somewhere between RDNA1 and 2 (no infinity cache).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:11:51 No.103939563
>>103939548
during covid when they saw people will pay $800 for a 3060
during covid when they saw people will pay $800 for a 3060
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:12:46 No.103939567
>>103939541
>If you look at the video game market as a hole
I mean, doesn't everyone?
As for your question, problems with Radeon cards and game devs mostly has to do with complete incompatibility and the like. Like when CoD pushed out an update a few years ago that just broke the game on Vega cards entirely cause they don't test their patches on that generation of cards. Same problem Intel sometimes has, like with Starfield where the dev eventually admitted that they just don't test the game on Arc at all.
>If you look at the video game market as a hole
I mean, doesn't everyone?
As for your question, problems with Radeon cards and game devs mostly has to do with complete incompatibility and the like. Like when CoD pushed out an update a few years ago that just broke the game on Vega cards entirely cause they don't test their patches on that generation of cards. Same problem Intel sometimes has, like with Starfield where the dev eventually admitted that they just don't test the game on Arc at all.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:12:55 No.103939568
>>103939552
Doesn’t that also mean amd can’t lower the prices of their newer gpu if they still keep making old ones?
Doesn’t that also mean amd can’t lower the prices of their newer gpu if they still keep making old ones?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:13:35 No.103939572
>>103939498
Because Steam hardware surveys most commonly pop up in chink internet cafes. That's where you fresh boot and log in.
Because Steam hardware surveys most commonly pop up in chink internet cafes. That's where you fresh boot and log in.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:13:57 No.103939575
>>103939541
This is my assumption, I think game devs lay the groundwork to optimize their games for AMD console APUs but they don't put much effort past that on PC ports.
This explains why relatively new Radeon features like Anti Lag 2 adoption are much slower.
It is something admitted by AMD's SVP, game developers don't have enough incentive to support Radeon on PC given their GPU install base.
This is my assumption, I think game devs lay the groundwork to optimize their games for AMD console APUs but they don't put much effort past that on PC ports.
This explains why relatively new Radeon features like Anti Lag 2 adoption are much slower.
It is something admitted by AMD's SVP, game developers don't have enough incentive to support Radeon on PC given their GPU install base.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:17:19 No.103939599
>>103939575
I don't blame the devs. Have your game crap out on an nvidia card for any reason and watch that game's entire forums, social medias and internet presence suffer a nonstop shitfire until it's fixed.
I don't blame the devs. Have your game crap out on an nvidia card for any reason and watch that game's entire forums, social medias and internet presence suffer a nonstop shitfire until it's fixed.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:20:58 No.103939613
>>103939568
Well, no. It can depend on factors like how stuffed the old process node's back order log is. And there's lead time items like photomasks that have limited lifespans, meaning if you still have some lying around you can just decide to use them up even if the product the photomask makes is at best a low end computing option. Remember that the 580 was the highest end consumer card that AMD ever made without EUV photolithography or HBM RAM, that matters for manufacturing purposes.
Well, no. It can depend on factors like how stuffed the old process node's back order log is. And there's lead time items like photomasks that have limited lifespans, meaning if you still have some lying around you can just decide to use them up even if the product the photomask makes is at best a low end computing option. Remember that the 580 was the highest end consumer card that AMD ever made without EUV photolithography or HBM RAM, that matters for manufacturing purposes.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:23:02 No.103939625
>>103939541
>If you look at the video game market as a hole with consoles included isn't Radeon marketshare actually really high?
No because on console, optimizations are made for that one specific hardware combination using the console's own graphics API.
This doesn't really translate to how PCs use DirectX & Vulkan to interact with all the different GPUs available.
>If you look at the video game market as a hole with consoles included isn't Radeon marketshare actually really high?
No because on console, optimizations are made for that one specific hardware combination using the console's own graphics API.
This doesn't really translate to how PCs use DirectX & Vulkan to interact with all the different GPUs available.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:23:58 No.103939635
>>103939568
Well it looks like Z1/Z2 APUs are on TSMC 5nm.
But Z2 gaming handhelds aren't a direct replacement or competitor to RDNA4 dGPUs, and they have vastly different gaming performance.
Very few Z2 gaming handheld owners are going to say "I don't need a gaming PC anymore because I have this".
Well it looks like Z1/Z2 APUs are on TSMC 5nm.
But Z2 gaming handhelds aren't a direct replacement or competitor to RDNA4 dGPUs, and they have vastly different gaming performance.
Very few Z2 gaming handheld owners are going to say "I don't need a gaming PC anymore because I have this".
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:24:34 No.103939637
>>103939599
Wow, it's almost like if your game doesn't work for 90% of PC gamers then you'll get a lot of complaints
Wow, it's almost like if your game doesn't work for 90% of PC gamers then you'll get a lot of complaints
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:25:14 No.103939641
will there be a noticeable difference between DDR5 6000 and 7600 RAM?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:27:06 No.103939652
>>103939641
On AM5? You'll get worse performance with the 7600 kit because you'll have to run desynced MCLK:UCLK
You either do 6000MHz with synced MCLK:UCLK or you go up to 8000MHz and run MCLK:UCLK at 2:1
Everything else in between is fucked
On AM5? You'll get worse performance with the 7600 kit because you'll have to run desynced MCLK:UCLK
You either do 6000MHz with synced MCLK:UCLK or you go up to 8000MHz and run MCLK:UCLK at 2:1
Everything else in between is fucked
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:27:59 No.103939658
>>103939641
That depends on what CPU you're using.
That depends on what CPU you're using.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:29:17 No.103939664
>>103939599
>>103939637
This is exactly what's happened to Starfield, PC gamers had a meltdown over this game not having DLSS at launch.
Bethesda Games Studios added in DLSS SR + FG earlier than FSR3.
I think the majority of AAA game developers got the message after that.
I know Starfield is one of the most mediocre AAA titles, but it sold a lot of copies and a significant amount of those sales were from PC due to high expectations of modded content.
>>103939637
This is exactly what's happened to Starfield, PC gamers had a meltdown over this game not having DLSS at launch.
Bethesda Games Studios added in DLSS SR + FG earlier than FSR3.
I think the majority of AAA game developers got the message after that.
I know Starfield is one of the most mediocre AAA titles, but it sold a lot of copies and a significant amount of those sales were from PC due to high expectations of modded content.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:30:07 No.103939668
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:30:30 No.103939669
Wait is the 5090 FE going to have fans facing upward? I have an nh d15. Isn’t it going to basically block both fans?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:32:31 No.103939688
>>103939664
>most used card brand needs specific tech to continue advancement because they won't sell higher quality dies to consumers
>devs lazy as fuck and won't put core Feature in
>consumers whine
>devs finally unlazify their shit
I hate devs and I hate Nvidia, we are paying money for garbage ass games and garbage hardware. fuck em both.
>most used card brand needs specific tech to continue advancement because they won't sell higher quality dies to consumers
>devs lazy as fuck and won't put core Feature in
>consumers whine
>devs finally unlazify their shit
I hate devs and I hate Nvidia, we are paying money for garbage ass games and garbage hardware. fuck em both.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:32:35 No.103939690
>>103939652
what about on intel?
what about on intel?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:33:00 No.103939693
>>103939477
actually over 5 or just under? samsung warranty is 5 years if you're under the tbw
actually over 5 or just under? samsung warranty is 5 years if you're under the tbw
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:33:40 No.103939698
>>103939652
7600 would probably be enough to outperform 6000
8000 beats 6200/6400 setups
>>103939690
just go as high as you can
but don't go so high that you go insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8en_FtA80
7600 would probably be enough to outperform 6000
8000 beats 6200/6400 setups
>>103939690
just go as high as you can
but don't go so high that you go insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:35:36 No.103939706
>>103939635
>not a direct replacement
They really need a direct successor. Lunarlake on handheld has much better efficiency and it has ai upscaler which amd only has for rdna4
>not a direct replacement
They really need a direct successor. Lunarlake on handheld has much better efficiency and it has ai upscaler which amd only has for rdna4
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:36:01 No.103939709
>>103939693
It's over. I wouldn't want a 970 evo anyways.
It's over. I wouldn't want a 970 evo anyways.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:36:23 No.103939710
>>103939698
>7600 would probably be enough to outperform 6000
Maybe but anon has to ask between the two then he isn't ready for the manual tuning needed to get 7600 stable and beating an easy 6000CL30 with buildzoid timings
>7600 would probably be enough to outperform 6000
Maybe but anon has to ask between the two then he isn't ready for the manual tuning needed to get 7600 stable and beating an easy 6000CL30 with buildzoid timings
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:37:44 No.103939721
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:39:47 No.103939738
>>103939706
Lunar Lake was a 1 time thing and they're never doing it again. AMD needs their own economy cores to get better efficiency on handhelds, no reason to be putting big power hungry cores on a 15w device.
Lunar Lake was a 1 time thing and they're never doing it again. AMD needs their own economy cores to get better efficiency on handhelds, no reason to be putting big power hungry cores on a 15w device.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:39:50 No.103939739
>>103939698
You don't know what he's talking about. Zen 4 dips in performance after DDR5 6000 until about 8000, as he explained. You either go for 8000 and dangerously overclock your chip's bus or you just settle for 6000.
You don't know what he's talking about. Zen 4 dips in performance after DDR5 6000 until about 8000, as he explained. You either go for 8000 and dangerously overclock your chip's bus or you just settle for 6000.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:40:04 No.103939742
>>103939690
>>103939698
My 14700K got an even worse IMC, it caps out at 6800MT/s, it's so bad.
https://youtu.be/2-LqWdvoFLY?t=1171
I have a 4-DIMM Z790 board but I've seen plenty of owners running 7200~7400MT/s on it, GSkill's conservative QVL validated 7200MT/s.
>>103939698
My 14700K got an even worse IMC, it caps out at 6800MT/s, it's so bad.
https://youtu.be/2-LqWdvoFLY?t=1171
I have a 4-DIMM Z790 board but I've seen plenty of owners running 7200~7400MT/s on it, GSkill's conservative QVL validated 7200MT/s.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:40:54 No.103939747
>>103939688
Think about how fast games would run if Ray Tracing, Frame Generation, and DLSS never existed and Nvidia spend 0$ on R&D for them amd cramming hardcoded transistors for them into their dies for the past 4 generations. Game devs would be forced to make their software run 100% Native all the time with no constantly re-rendered lighting shortcuts and having to make their VRAM usage fit native rendering resolution.
Think about how fast games would run if Ray Tracing, Frame Generation, and DLSS never existed and Nvidia spend 0$ on R&D for them amd cramming hardcoded transistors for them into their dies for the past 4 generations. Game devs would be forced to make their software run 100% Native all the time with no constantly re-rendered lighting shortcuts and having to make their VRAM usage fit native rendering resolution.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:42:34 No.103939755
>>103939706
I'm surprised the Windows gaming handheld market is big enough for so many AIBs to make their own devices.
And Xbox is planning to make one.
I'm surprised the Windows gaming handheld market is big enough for so many AIBs to make their own devices.
And Xbox is planning to make one.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:42:48 No.103939757
>>103939747
Ray tracing is here to stay, I hate it cause I'm forced to go from 100+ fps to below 30 with path tracing but it's too convenient for devs to not use it.
Ray tracing is here to stay, I hate it cause I'm forced to go from 100+ fps to below 30 with path tracing but it's too convenient for devs to not use it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:44:06 No.103939765
>>103939755
It isn't, hardware companies don't know shit about software and they're just trying to make the hardware, assuming Steam's big picture mode will handle the rest of the problems and make their product popular.
It isn't, hardware companies don't know shit about software and they're just trying to make the hardware, assuming Steam's big picture mode will handle the rest of the problems and make their product popular.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:44:30 No.103939768
>>103939755
Steam OS is actually going to start releasing for handhelds so expect that market to shrink. The smartest thing Microsoft could do is build a Steam OS competitor, a bare bones windows with inke the necessary to run games and maybe a web browser and then release it so 3rd party companies could put it on their handhelds.
Steam OS is actually going to start releasing for handhelds so expect that market to shrink. The smartest thing Microsoft could do is build a Steam OS competitor, a bare bones windows with inke the necessary to run games and maybe a web browser and then release it so 3rd party companies could put it on their handhelds.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:45:16 No.103939777
>>103939739
i'm not rewatching the 1 hour buildzoid video where he explains AM5 overclocking
but i'm pretty sure he said 2:1 mode starts being worth it around 7600-7800
you want to sync your FCLK to MCLK/4 in 2:1 mode, so 7600 is 1900 FCLK (meh) and 8000 is 2000 FCLK (decent)
>dangerously overclock your chip's bus
nevermind you're just pulling shit out of your ass
i'm not rewatching the 1 hour buildzoid video where he explains AM5 overclocking
but i'm pretty sure he said 2:1 mode starts being worth it around 7600-7800
you want to sync your FCLK to MCLK/4 in 2:1 mode, so 7600 is 1900 FCLK (meh) and 8000 is 2000 FCLK (decent)
>dangerously overclock your chip's bus
nevermind you're just pulling shit out of your ass
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:46:28 No.103939789
>>103939768
Last time Microsoft tried that was with Vista, they tried to offer software so you could use your computer from the couch with a remote. It was awful and they also tried to make it into a walled garden ecosystem.
Last time Microsoft tried that was with Vista, they tried to offer software so you could use your computer from the couch with a remote. It was awful and they also tried to make it into a walled garden ecosystem.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:48:04 No.103939801
>>103938835
Why did intel release the shit Battlemage versions first? Glad I went ahead and bought my 6950xt. There still is no Intel that can touch it.
Why did intel release the shit Battlemage versions first? Glad I went ahead and bought my 6950xt. There still is no Intel that can touch it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:50:26 No.103939814
>>103939742
Corporate behavior is best explained as the suicidalness of crowds.
Corporate behavior is best explained as the suicidalness of crowds.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:51:03 No.103939816
>>103939755
Well, windows dont need proton emulation layer and companies already familiar with installing windows on laptops
Well, windows dont need proton emulation layer and companies already familiar with installing windows on laptops
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:51:15 No.103939820
>>103939801
because the low end market is bigger? >>103935554
b770 is probably around 7700 or 7800 level at best
because the low end market is bigger? >>103935554
b770 is probably around 7700 or 7800 level at best
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:51:27 No.103939823
WHY is there no competitor to Anarchy Arcade?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:52:36 No.103939832
>>103939820
We need to be making mods that help the poorfags game better so they quit griefing and actually try to play.
We need to be making mods that help the poorfags game better so they quit griefing and actually try to play.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)01:53:32 No.103939841
>>103939742
Maybe it's just your board. Bad 4 dimmers struggle above 6800
Maybe it's just your board. Bad 4 dimmers struggle above 6800
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:12:00 No.103939968
>>103939841
Tried two separate boards, it’s the CPU.
Tried two separate boards, it’s the CPU.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:15:29 No.103939993
Why hasn’t amd release the price for 9950x3d? Amd keep talking about how they only put vcache on only one ccd this time to save cost but they won’t tell us the price.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:16:36 No.103940001
>>103939709
I mean I'd take a free one if I was owed it, and throw it in an enclosure or laptop or smth
I mean I'd take a free one if I was owed it, and throw it in an enclosure or laptop or smth
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:20:25 No.103940035
>>103939993
That’s how amd control the narrative. Release the price later so no one remember what they said.
That’s how amd control the narrative. Release the price later so no one remember what they said.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:28:46 No.103940082
5 days on Intel ARC.
Very nice. Team Blue Power.
Very nice. Team Blue Power.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:33:57 No.103940128
>>103938835
You guys think AMD will release Zen 6 at, or around the time of the 5080 ti/Super?
You guys think AMD will release Zen 6 at, or around the time of the 5080 ti/Super?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:33:57 No.103940129
>>103939993
$800
$800
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:36:00 No.103940146
>>103939993
because it's gonna be like 800 fucking dollars
>>103940129
The 7950x3d is $639 and it's a previous gen, the 9950x is $569 rn albeit a price decrease from over 600. A 9950x3d will be $649 minimum probably $699 or $799.
because it's gonna be like 800 fucking dollars
>>103940129
The 7950x3d is $639 and it's a previous gen, the 9950x is $569 rn albeit a price decrease from over 600. A 9950x3d will be $649 minimum probably $699 or $799.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:36:35 No.103940150
>>103940128
5080ti won't exist if there's nothing beating the shit out of the 5080
And amd is on a 1.5-2year cadence with their cpu generations so zen6's still a good 15-21 months away
5080ti won't exist if there's nothing beating the shit out of the 5080
And amd is on a 1.5-2year cadence with their cpu generations so zen6's still a good 15-21 months away
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:41:11 No.103940181
>>103940150
The 5080 ti will beat the 5080
Sooner or later the 5080 sales will stagnate after everyone who wants one gets one. Then they can launch the refresh to get more sales.
The 5080 ti will beat the 5080
Sooner or later the 5080 sales will stagnate after everyone who wants one gets one. Then they can launch the refresh to get more sales.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:44:44 No.103940203
>>103940128
Zen 6 is probably early 2026 at best, 5080 super is not coming unless the 5080 royal on shelves which I doubt.
Zen 6 is probably early 2026 at best, 5080 super is not coming unless the 5080 royal on shelves which I doubt.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:45:58 No.103940212
>>103939747
>Think about how fast games would run if Ray Tracing, Frame Generation, and DLSS never existed
We've always been getting games that ran like shit since the beginning and it'll never stop. We didn't have DLSS in the 2000s when games like crysis, dark Souls and saints row 2 were made and they ran worse than anything you could find today barring path traced games.
>Think about how fast games would run if Ray Tracing, Frame Generation, and DLSS never existed
We've always been getting games that ran like shit since the beginning and it'll never stop. We didn't have DLSS in the 2000s when games like crysis, dark Souls and saints row 2 were made and they ran worse than anything you could find today barring path traced games.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:52:42 No.103940262
>go to sleep yesterday
>laptop went into sleep and monitor into no signal input entire night and so on
>time after last pixel refresh still at 5 hours
>did not run a pixel clean
this firmware is not consistent
about it
going back to a tv or lcd, it's over
>laptop went into sleep and monitor into no signal input entire night and so on
>time after last pixel refresh still at 5 hours
>did not run a pixel clean
this firmware is not consistent
about it
going back to a tv or lcd, it's over
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:56:23 No.103940284
QDEL displays will save us
TWO MORE YEARS
TRUST THE PLAN
TWO MORE YEARS
TRUST THE PLAN
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:00:17 No.103940306
>>103940212
Dark Souls ran like shit because the dev unironically made it in two months with no knowledge of their development tools. There were mods during the first week of release that increased performance to whatever res at 60fps on crapware computers (which is functionally the engine's cap, don't go over). Crysis wasn't a case of PC hardware being made badly, it was just a case of PC hardware being weak. 100% of a GTX 8800 was fully utilized in Crysis.
When you play Cyberpunk you have to tweak settings based on whatever GPU arch you're using so you aren't trying to push ray tracing or rasterization too hard for your GPU to handle. This is significant, there will NEVER be a case of a perfect balance between the two. You ARE wasting silicon utilization in some way with ray traced games.
Dark Souls ran like shit because the dev unironically made it in two months with no knowledge of their development tools. There were mods during the first week of release that increased performance to whatever res at 60fps on crapware computers (which is functionally the engine's cap, don't go over). Crysis wasn't a case of PC hardware being made badly, it was just a case of PC hardware being weak. 100% of a GTX 8800 was fully utilized in Crysis.
When you play Cyberpunk you have to tweak settings based on whatever GPU arch you're using so you aren't trying to push ray tracing or rasterization too hard for your GPU to handle. This is significant, there will NEVER be a case of a perfect balance between the two. You ARE wasting silicon utilization in some way with ray traced games.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:00:35 No.103940309
Release the damn cards
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:02:47 No.103940327
>>103940309
13 DAYS
13 DAYS
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:03:02 No.103940329
>>103940309
when you realize it's NOT a place holder price
when you realize it's NOT a place holder price
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:05:40 No.103940342
>>103940329
Its fine I have other hobbies anyway...
Its fine I have other hobbies anyway...
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:10:59 No.103940361
5080 FE for me!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:13:30 No.103940371
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:24:18 No.103940437
>>103939214
Reference is 260W, AIBs go up to 330W.
Reference is 260W, AIBs go up to 330W.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:29:21 No.103940464
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:31:31 No.103940484
Release the info, AMD
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:33:18 No.103940495
>>103940329
I don't get the hype. It's a grey rectangle.
I don't get the hype. It's a grey rectangle.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:40:58 No.103940533
>>103940464
I wish retards would just not buy them so they get the message 2.5k is too much but you just know they will be sold out for months
I wish retards would just not buy them so they get the message 2.5k is too much but you just know they will be sold out for months
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:41:25 No.103940536
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:45:20 No.103940558
>>103938958
Lol no unless they want to sell 0 units 9070XT can't be higher a $600 price tag
The only market it has is euros and other 3rd worlders that can't afford Nvdia premiun with their lower than US minimun wage salary.
Nvdia is to be considered a luxury wealth product outside the US
Lol no unless they want to sell 0 units 9070XT can't be higher a $600 price tag
The only market it has is euros and other 3rd worlders that can't afford Nvdia premiun with their lower than US minimun wage salary.
Nvdia is to be considered a luxury wealth product outside the US
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:46:25 No.103940565
>>103940533
if gaymers don't buy them youtubers and ai coomers will
the problem is you are not getting any performance increase any gen anymore without actually paying more
and the only perf bump is a 5090
you are literally not getting any free performance upgrades anymore
if gaymers don't buy them youtubers and ai coomers will
the problem is you are not getting any performance increase any gen anymore without actually paying more
and the only perf bump is a 5090
you are literally not getting any free performance upgrades anymore
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:47:21 No.103940573
>>103940536
its silly how much superior FE versions are to 3rd party ones
its silly how much superior FE versions are to 3rd party ones
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:52:29 No.103940615
will TN ever be defeated
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:52:40 No.103940616
>>103940558
You sound like a jeet that buys itoddler products
You sound like a jeet that buys itoddler products
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:58:54 No.103940645
does anyone have a north XL case? what is the length from feet to feet? I know the case length itself is 503mm, I am wondering if it will fit on my 500mm table
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:00:52 No.103940657
>>103940615
Yes, although the 750Hz monitor from Koorui may best the 500Hz QD-OLED this year there will come a point where the refresh rate handicap of LCDs will not be able to overcome their slow response times' added motion blur even if Pulsar can keep sample-and-hold persistence at bay particularly when the content's native framerate is very low.
Yes, although the 750Hz monitor from Koorui may best the 500Hz QD-OLED this year there will come a point where the refresh rate handicap of LCDs will not be able to overcome their slow response times' added motion blur even if Pulsar can keep sample-and-hold persistence at bay particularly when the content's native framerate is very low.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:07:42 No.103940687
Is there really such a difference between the 5080s...? Like the coolers are different size but its not like one cooler would get 80c load and another 55, so why such a huge price gap?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:10:22 No.103940699
>>103940645
I mean you can just look at an image of it and use common sense. Both front and back feet are like 1.5cm in. And they're not 3mm sticks, they're big round feet. Long as you leave cable clearance at the back.
I mean you can just look at an image of it and use common sense. Both front and back feet are like 1.5cm in. And they're not 3mm sticks, they're big round feet. Long as you leave cable clearance at the back.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:17:49 No.103940735
>>103940699
think it may fit, thanks
think it may fit, thanks
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:21:18 No.103940749
>>103940657
more hz the less strobing matters, I wanna try a strobed monitor, might try the retroarch strobing thing on oled because 240hz oled is actually not that clear either
more hz the less strobing matters, I wanna try a strobed monitor, might try the retroarch strobing thing on oled because 240hz oled is actually not that clear either
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:22:37 No.103940757
>>103940645
460mm give or take
460mm give or take
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:24:47 No.103940772
>>103940082
a770 is cheaper in my place. Should I grab that instead of b580?
a770 is cheaper in my place. Should I grab that instead of b580?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:30:36 No.103940812
>>103940772
b580 perform slightly better, depend how much cheaper
b580 perform slightly better, depend how much cheaper
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:33:08 No.103940830
>>103940657
I kinda miss my TN panel
I have 3 asus panels, their first 2k TN panel, their first ips 2k panel, and now their 240hz oled.
Don't have room for all 3 atm, so I just use the IPS and the OLED
they "look" better but the TN panel still feels faster. Even though all these nerds assure me that I have <1ms response and shit
the oled is definetly the worst in terms of everything except actually playing video games.
text looks horrible (I know there are fixes but fuck that)
I just leave it turned off and only use it when gayming
I think the TN panel from 2013 was starting to die, had some weird flickering going on before I put it in the closet.
The Oled is snappy and responsive but the overall experience just kinda gay. takes like 15 seconds to turn on, 6mins to turn off, etc
I kinda miss my TN panel
I have 3 asus panels, their first 2k TN panel, their first ips 2k panel, and now their 240hz oled.
Don't have room for all 3 atm, so I just use the IPS and the OLED
they "look" better but the TN panel still feels faster. Even though all these nerds assure me that I have <1ms response and shit
the oled is definetly the worst in terms of everything except actually playing video games.
text looks horrible (I know there are fixes but fuck that)
I just leave it turned off and only use it when gayming
I think the TN panel from 2013 was starting to die, had some weird flickering going on before I put it in the closet.
The Oled is snappy and responsive but the overall experience just kinda gay. takes like 15 seconds to turn on, 6mins to turn off, etc
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:35:36 No.103940839
How much is pci-e gen 3 16x holding back something like a 5080, compared to running it on pci-e 5.0 16x slot?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:36:10 No.103940842
>>103940749
>might try the retroarch strobing thing on oled because 240hz oled is actually not that clear either
Supposed to work pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnwEJCrFmM
>might try the retroarch strobing thing on oled because 240hz oled is actually not that clear either
Supposed to work pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBn
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:36:57 No.103940848
>>103940812
15% or so.
15% or so.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:40:40 No.103940873
>>103940848
is the b580 even at msrp price, also compare the price with 4060 and 7600
is the b580 even at msrp price, also compare the price with 4060 and 7600
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:40:44 No.103940874
>>103940839
>How much is pci-e gen 3 16x holding back something like a 5080, compared to running it on pci-e 5.0 16x slot?
Consider that a 5080 will be weaker than 4090 which shows no real degradation falling back from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0, absolutely not all.
>How much is pci-e gen 3 16x holding back something like a 5080, compared to running it on pci-e 5.0 16x slot?
Consider that a 5080 will be weaker than 4090 which shows no real degradation falling back from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0, absolutely not all.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:42:26 No.103940883
>>103940873
No, 4060 slightly cheaper and I don't consider AMD as I want a bit of AIslop and AMD on wendao kinda sucks for it.
No, 4060 slightly cheaper and I don't consider AMD as I want a bit of AIslop and AMD on wendao kinda sucks for it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:43:46 No.103940890
>>103938835
i am building Threadripper 7000WX but the problem is that the X performs better than the WX in most cases at 1/2 price
i need a motherboard that i can pack with gpus and raid cards
should i just go with the X instead ?
i am building Threadripper 7000WX but the problem is that the X performs better than the WX in most cases at 1/2 price
i need a motherboard that i can pack with gpus and raid cards
should i just go with the X instead ?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:43:52 No.103940891
>>103940883
then probably just get the 4060
then probably just get the 4060
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:47:08 No.103940916
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:51:12 No.103940936
>>103940890
maybe with all that cash you should buy a clue
maybe with all that cash you should buy a clue
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:51:55 No.103940940
>>103940891
After the closer look, a770 is close to 20% cheaper. Is it still 4060? It's so annoying that 3060 had 12gb and the next one downgrade the vram.
After the closer look, a770 is close to 20% cheaper. Is it still 4060? It's so annoying that 3060 had 12gb and the next one downgrade the vram.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:55:00 No.103940958
>>103940890
The spec differences are pretty well documented. As I recall, outside of certifications*, it's mostly memory channels or max memory. Your workload benefits from 8-channel? WX. If not, X.
*If these matter you should probably be asking your purchasing department instead of 4chan.
The spec differences are pretty well documented. As I recall, outside of certifications*, it's mostly memory channels or max memory. Your workload benefits from 8-channel? WX. If not, X.
*If these matter you should probably be asking your purchasing department instead of 4chan.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:55:03 No.103940959
>>103940936
i'm taking a loan from the government thats all
i'm taking a loan from the government thats all
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:56:55 No.103940967
>>103940959
government of what country?
government of what country?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:57:21 No.103940969
>>103940958
its not only because of 8 memory channels, also the PCI can handle alot.
my workload indeed requires that amount of memory as i am compiling kernels everyday and test them
its not only because of 8 memory channels, also the PCI can handle alot.
my workload indeed requires that amount of memory as i am compiling kernels everyday and test them
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:57:45 No.103940974
>>103940940
intel is only worth it if it's cheaper than 4060
intel is only worth it if it's cheaper than 4060
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:58:40 No.103940977
>>103940967
Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:01:37 No.103940993
>>103940940
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-arc-b570-challenger/32.html
The 4060 is ~9/10% faster than the A770 so if it's 18-20% cheaper it might be worth it (check the games benched as results vary based on the title). If it's closer to only 12-15% cheap it might be worth 4060 just for the higher perf & consistency. How is your used market?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
The 4060 is ~9/10% faster than the A770 so if it's 18-20% cheaper it might be worth it (check the games benched as results vary based on the title). If it's closer to only 12-15% cheap it might be worth 4060 just for the higher perf & consistency. How is your used market?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:01:54 No.103940995
>>103940977
hope you pay it back before you get sent home in a suitcase
hope you pay it back before you get sent home in a suitcase
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:05:09 No.103941015
>>103940993
Nah, I'm giving up on used market. There's no buyer protection on my fucked up region and my used 3080 busted after a week.
Nah, I'm giving up on used market. There's no buyer protection on my fucked up region and my used 3080 busted after a week.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:05:38 No.103941016
>>103940969
Sure. Sounds like you need the WX then. I somewhat discounted the PCIe difference because it'd be hard to use >80 lanes in a desktop chassis. I suppose you could be rackmounting but, again, that's more "phone the manufacturer" than "ask /pcbg/". At a certain point you really ought not to be doing DIY. For liability reasons if nothing else.
Sure. Sounds like you need the WX then. I somewhat discounted the PCIe difference because it'd be hard to use >80 lanes in a desktop chassis. I suppose you could be rackmounting but, again, that's more "phone the manufacturer" than "ask /pcbg/". At a certain point you really ought not to be doing DIY. For liability reasons if nothing else.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:06:14 No.103941019
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:24:40 No.103941101
>>103940874
Good to know thanks.
Good to know thanks.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:40:24 No.103941215
>>103941019
why do you think it cannot happen?
why do you think it cannot happen?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:42:02 No.103941229
>>103940830
>they "look" better but the TN panel still feels faster.
tn should not be faster than oled, but def ips
>text looks horrible
zowie markets 1080p tn looking better than 1440p qhd oled due to the pixel structure and sharpness settings at lower res, kek
need higher ppi and it wont look bad
>The Oled is snappy and responsive but the overall experience just kinda gay.
monitor firmware/OSD is THE most looked over monitor feature
>takes like 15 seconds to turn on, 6mins to turn off, etc
I remember being tired waiting on my old lcd start up time, also an overlooked feature
>they "look" better but the TN panel still feels faster.
tn should not be faster than oled, but def ips
>text looks horrible
zowie markets 1080p tn looking better than 1440p qhd oled due to the pixel structure and sharpness settings at lower res, kek
need higher ppi and it wont look bad
>The Oled is snappy and responsive but the overall experience just kinda gay.
monitor firmware/OSD is THE most looked over monitor feature
>takes like 15 seconds to turn on, 6mins to turn off, etc
I remember being tired waiting on my old lcd start up time, also an overlooked feature
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:43:17 No.103941233
Built a xeon shitbox today and I was very happy with the results
32gb of ram
1060 6gb
600w gold psu
micro atx cooler master case with a nice modular io panel
I have a pc that does laps around it but something is nice about building a capable small factor pc with old parts that save them from becoming e waste
First thing I did on it is play doom and model out some things in blender.
Am I cooked?
32gb of ram
1060 6gb
600w gold psu
micro atx cooler master case with a nice modular io panel
I have a pc that does laps around it but something is nice about building a capable small factor pc with old parts that save them from becoming e waste
First thing I did on it is play doom and model out some things in blender.
Am I cooked?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:43:51 No.103941241
Man, I'm really struggling with building this PC.
>CPU Red light (I'm assuming fan's not working is causing that)
Does anyone have a guide for the Antec C5 on where I should be putting my cables into the mobo? There are about 50 white cables that all look the exact same.
>CPU Red light (I'm assuming fan's not working is causing that)
Does anyone have a guide for the Antec C5 on where I should be putting my cables into the mobo? There are about 50 white cables that all look the exact same.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:45:16 No.103941247
>>103941215
healthcare is totally free there
i literally took 3 esketamine bottles for free weekly that costs about ~$1500 dollars each bottle
did i get sent home with a suitcase ? nope im still here
healthcare is totally free there
i literally took 3 esketamine bottles for free weekly that costs about ~$1500 dollars each bottle
did i get sent home with a suitcase ? nope im still here
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:46:10 No.103941253
>>103941241
I hate how this thing looks
Here is your manual
https://www.antec.com/documents/product/case-240116_Antec_C5_ARGB_Black&White_Manual-OL.pdf
I hate how this thing looks
Here is your manual
https://www.antec.com/documents/pro
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:50:41 No.103941286
>>103941253
I love it
Anyway, I'm retarded and forgot to plug the hidden SATA cable in.
CPU red light must mean my cooler isn't working
I love it
Anyway, I'm retarded and forgot to plug the hidden SATA cable in.
CPU red light must mean my cooler isn't working
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:15:05 No.103941446
>>103941229
I'm not too technical with it, and what you're saying makes sense
just been my user experience
If I had to have only 1 monitor I suppose I'd go with my IPS. I could not have the oled as my only monitor since I find it bad at anything that isn't games.
I suppose I haven't tried it side by side with the TN, only the IPS. It probably is faster than the TN, it's been a while.
also the oled so bright I look like ryan gosling in bladerunner 2 by the big hologram when it's on. Some games the HDR is chef's kiss and I get the hype.
I'm not too technical with it, and what you're saying makes sense
just been my user experience
If I had to have only 1 monitor I suppose I'd go with my IPS. I could not have the oled as my only monitor since I find it bad at anything that isn't games.
I suppose I haven't tried it side by side with the TN, only the IPS. It probably is faster than the TN, it's been a while.
also the oled so bright I look like ryan gosling in bladerunner 2 by the big hologram when it's on. Some games the HDR is chef's kiss and I get the hype.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:17:12 No.103941466
>>103938835
What would be the best value board for a Ryzen 3700X? WiFi isn't necessary and I don't overclock.
What would be the best value board for a Ryzen 3700X? WiFi isn't necessary and I don't overclock.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:40:00 No.103941693
>>103941241
you might need to update bios
you might need to update bios
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:45:21 No.103941730
Remember *090ies GPUs are NOT for gaymers.
Buy AMD
Buy AMD
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:55:38 No.103941795
Hello /g/, how are we feeling about this one. I'm happy with the current price point, but if you think I'll have severe bottlenecking I can change either the CPU or GPU. Would rather not change both. Also, I specifically want Nvidia so I can experience RTX, DLSS, and other Nvidia features. And I'm going AMD CPU just because I've always used Intel in the past.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:04:00 No.103941850
>>103941466
Why
Why
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:07:31 No.103941872
this is for a friend
what would you change?
i know the b580 might be hard to get so i told him to get the b570 if that was too hard
also told him to try and get a case for free
what would you change?
i know the b580 might be hard to get so i told him to get the b570 if that was too hard
also told him to try and get a case for free
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:09:20 No.103941883
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:10:01 No.103941888
>>103939377
No. You can get windows 10 ltsc iot using https://massgrave.dev
and then if you really want to get tight control over scheduling, use process lasso.
No. You can get windows 10 ltsc iot using https://massgrave.dev
and then if you really want to get tight control over scheduling, use process lasso.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:11:37 No.103941902
>>103940329
for me, it's the msi vanguard.
for me, it's the msi vanguard.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:12:14 No.103941908
What's the logic with RAM supposedly going in DimmA2/B2 and not A1/B1? From a logical perspective it doesn't make sense
Hell why not make it 1234 and put them from left to right, that makes more sense from a user perspective
Hell why not make it 1234 and put them from left to right, that makes more sense from a user perspective
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:13:31 No.103941915
>>103941795
>Also, I specifically want Nvidia so I can experience RTX, DLSS, and other Nvidia features
You are not going to have a good time trying to use ray tracing and slop scaling on a 4060. You will also run out of vram even at 1080p on many newer games. Look up videos about this card it's a joke, mid and low range cards you can't do raytracing and using any kind of upscaling even dlss at 1080p which I assume is the resolution you will play at does not look good. You are better off waiting for the rx 9070 from amd which will be under 500 dollars.
>Also, I specifically want Nvidia so I can experience RTX, DLSS, and other Nvidia features
You are not going to have a good time trying to use ray tracing and slop scaling on a 4060. You will also run out of vram even at 1080p on many newer games. Look up videos about this card it's a joke, mid and low range cards you can't do raytracing and using any kind of upscaling even dlss at 1080p which I assume is the resolution you will play at does not look good. You are better off waiting for the rx 9070 from amd which will be under 500 dollars.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:17:46 No.103941948
>>103940687
You'll have to wait for reviews and teardowns to know. The difference in performance will be minimal. The actual differences will be in heat and power delivery, things like VRM quality and how good each cooler is.
All you can do now is compare with what you have been told by the companies and based things on price. For example, MSI have released a comparison of their lineup and you can kind of guess that the suprim (with it's 11 heatpipes) will be a little better than the vanguard (which has 8, but has the same type of cooler build & fans) which will be a bit better than the gaming trio (6, but stormforce fans) and that is better than the ventus which is using it's low tier older cooler/fan designs, and then the inspire will be the weakest because it's only got 5 heatpipes.
You'll have to wait for reviews and teardowns to know. The difference in performance will be minimal. The actual differences will be in heat and power delivery, things like VRM quality and how good each cooler is.
All you can do now is compare with what you have been told by the companies and based things on price. For example, MSI have released a comparison of their lineup and you can kind of guess that the suprim (with it's 11 heatpipes) will be a little better than the vanguard (which has 8, but has the same type of cooler build & fans) which will be a bit better than the gaming trio (6, but stormforce fans) and that is better than the ventus which is using it's low tier older cooler/fan designs, and then the inspire will be the weakest because it's only got 5 heatpipes.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:17:55 No.103941949
>>103941795
I've never used Nvidia, but I've frequently seen people here express sentiments of "friends don't let their friends get the 4060". Apparently it's just a really shitty card.
I've never used Nvidia, but I've frequently seen people here express sentiments of "friends don't let their friends get the 4060". Apparently it's just a really shitty card.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:19:22 No.103941960
>>103941795
lol what nvidia features? you cant use them unless you own a 4080 or 5070.
if you buy amd cpu you pair with amd gpu. no question, no doubt. nvidia is for intel cpu pairing.
lol what nvidia features? you cant use them unless you own a 4080 or 5070.
if you buy amd cpu you pair with amd gpu. no question, no doubt. nvidia is for intel cpu pairing.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:20:48 No.103941974
>>103941795
Looks fine desu. People will say "don't get a 4060" but it's one of the most popular video cards on the planet.
you probably won't get a usable experience with ray tracing, but games that run basic DLSS, you will get a lot of mileage out of simply using DLSS Quality.
Looks fine desu. People will say "don't get a 4060" but it's one of the most popular video cards on the planet.
you probably won't get a usable experience with ray tracing, but games that run basic DLSS, you will get a lot of mileage out of simply using DLSS Quality.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:21:34 No.103941982
>>103939575
Anti Lag 2 is already a Vulkan extension. Its more like devs are too fucking lazy or stupid to add Vulkan to their games. All their DX12 slop fests stutter and run worse than Vulkan games.
Anti Lag 2 is already a Vulkan extension. Its more like devs are too fucking lazy or stupid to add Vulkan to their games. All their DX12 slop fests stutter and run worse than Vulkan games.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:23:34 No.103941997
>>103941908
Because those slots are the end of the signal channel. There's complex electro engineering principles in play, but think of it like this. If you're in a car that needs to turn left, what's safer, turning left when the only thing you can do is turn left, or turn left when you might have traffic running right to left in front of you?
Because those slots are the end of the signal channel. There's complex electro engineering principles in play, but think of it like this. If you're in a car that needs to turn left, what's safer, turning left when the only thing you can do is turn left, or turn left when you might have traffic running right to left in front of you?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:23:48 No.103941999
>>103941982
RTX 4090 cant even get solid 60fps at 1080p because of their drivers and Unreal devs wont switch to Vulkan.
RTX 4090 cant even get solid 60fps at 1080p because of their drivers and Unreal devs wont switch to Vulkan.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:26:24 No.103942023
>>103941915
>>103941949
>>103941960
Acknowledged. What would you say is a fair price point for the 4070? I see a refurbished for $520. A week ago I was seeing new 4070s for this price...
>>103941974
Thanks. I was thinking this too, but I am getting it to try ray tracing - if it's something I turn on just to get 10 FPS and turn back off, that's not worth it. Picking between RT off and 2K or RT on and 1080P/upscaling, that's what I'm going for.
Also, do you guys agree Nvidia "needs" an Intel CPU.
>>103941949
>>103941960
Acknowledged. What would you say is a fair price point for the 4070? I see a refurbished for $520. A week ago I was seeing new 4070s for this price...
>>103941974
Thanks. I was thinking this too, but I am getting it to try ray tracing - if it's something I turn on just to get 10 FPS and turn back off, that's not worth it. Picking between RT off and 2K or RT on and 1080P/upscaling, that's what I'm going for.
Also, do you guys agree Nvidia "needs" an Intel CPU.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:30:44 No.103942055
>>103942023
An nvidia card just needs a decent CPU that roughly matches the level of card it is.
An nvidia card just needs a decent CPU that roughly matches the level of card it is.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:33:24 No.103942078
How does /pcbg/ set up their fan curves? Does this guide's stratgy seem worthwhile to you?
https://voltcave.com/fan-curve-guide/
https://voltcave.com/fan-curve-guid
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:34:30 No.103942085
>>103942078
I set a constant fan speed at the highest rpm that is barely audible
I set a constant fan speed at the highest rpm that is barely audible
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:35:42 No.103942094
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:39:18 No.103942118
>>103941948
I've been buying gpus since TNT2 days and i honestly have only had one gpu ever die one me (a 7950 that i was using to mine dogecoin). Otherwise it just seems like there is absolutely no difference if you're just playing games or doing 3d work.
I've been buying gpus since TNT2 days and i honestly have only had one gpu ever die one me (a 7950 that i was using to mine dogecoin). Otherwise it just seems like there is absolutely no difference if you're just playing games or doing 3d work.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:42:46 No.103942139
I have 550w PSU for following setup:
Ryzen 5 5600X, Radeon RX 6600 and 16gb ram.
Should I get bigger PSU ?
Ryzen 5 5600X, Radeon RX 6600 and 16gb ram.
Should I get bigger PSU ?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:06:18 No.103942322
>>103938956
even worse than new zealand?
even worse than new zealand?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:08:22 No.103942341
Mobo swap complete and bios is updating
Surprisingly I had trouble properly inserting the gpu in the pcie slot
Should I reinstall W10?
Surprisingly I had trouble properly inserting the gpu in the pcie slot
Should I reinstall W10?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:22:14 No.103942433
>>103938835
which b550 and case should I get?
which b550 and case should I get?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:29:09 No.103942480
>>103942433
try reading the op before posting you dumb cunt
try reading the op before posting you dumb cunt
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:31:53 No.103942495
>>103941446
buy a 4k 27" 160ppi 4k240hz qdoled to brute force the ppi, or just a 32"
should be better in everything
I guess the pixel clarity is not that good on 1440p oleds
or buy a tv and set it further away, kek
>Some games the HDR is chef's kiss and I get the hype.
I don't
buy a 4k 27" 160ppi 4k240hz qdoled to brute force the ppi, or just a 32"
should be better in everything
I guess the pixel clarity is not that good on 1440p oleds
or buy a tv and set it further away, kek
>Some games the HDR is chef's kiss and I get the hype.
I don't
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:34:33 No.103942506
>>103942480
*Try reading the OP before posting, you dumb cunt.
*Try reading the OP before posting, you dumb cunt.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:35:05 No.103942508
>>103942322
nothing is worse than new zealand
nothing is worse than new zealand
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:36:52 No.103942524
>>103942495
I specifically remember armored core 6 looking like the bee's knee's on this asus oled
I usually just turn hdr off though cuz it sucks 90% of the time
I specifically remember armored core 6 looking like the bee's knee's on this asus oled
I usually just turn hdr off though cuz it sucks 90% of the time
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:44:33 No.103942561
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:24:45 No.103942852
>>103942495
nta but even half decent hdr looks awesome
problem is most games don't even have that and rtx hdr has some serious caveats like forcing only 1 monitor to be connected
nta but even half decent hdr looks awesome
problem is most games don't even have that and rtx hdr has some serious caveats like forcing only 1 monitor to be connected
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:27:46 No.103942873
>>103941960
Retarded
>>103941949
>people here
You mean a few vocal AMDrones. Yes, the 4060 is a low end card (should have been named the 4050 Ti), but it's the best card in that price class.
>I've never used Nvidia
Unfortunate. I've used both Geforce and Radeon, but Radeon hasn't been competitive really for approximately the last decade so I haven't used it recently
>>103941883
>wuss that mean?
Not OP, but you can expect current gen low end by March or April at the latest.
Retarded
>>103941949
>people here
You mean a few vocal AMDrones. Yes, the 4060 is a low end card (should have been named the 4050 Ti), but it's the best card in that price class.
>I've never used Nvidia
Unfortunate. I've used both Geforce and Radeon, but Radeon hasn't been competitive really for approximately the last decade so I haven't used it recently
>>103941883
>wuss that mean?
Not OP, but you can expect current gen low end by March or April at the latest.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:33:04 No.103942917
Can anyone help me understand this? The image says a 2070 can run it on recommended settings at 60fps, but a 6600 can only run on minimum at 30fps. How does that make sense? There’s almost no difference between a 2070 and a 6600. Do you guys think my 6600 will be able to achieve 60fps?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:34:26 No.103942924
>>103942524
>>103942561
I'm gonna do the windows meme hdr calibration thing and try hdr in er again and sure bright things are brighter
>>103942852
>nta but even half decent hdr looks awesome
looking at the tree in er I guess it looks better in hdr, gonna try hdr400 and hdr1000 again..
>>103942561
I'm gonna do the windows meme hdr calibration thing and try hdr in er again and sure bright things are brighter
>>103942852
>nta but even half decent hdr looks awesome
looking at the tree in er I guess it looks better in hdr, gonna try hdr400 and hdr1000 again..
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:37:30 No.103942950
>>103942917
rx 6600 has 8gb of vram. unreal engine at this point wants at least 12gb for a decent experience. so the recommended is a 6700xt, even ps5 runs a rx 6700.
2060/2070 is very genreous and assumes you're assuming dlss cope scaling to like 960x544.
rx 6600 has 8gb of vram. unreal engine at this point wants at least 12gb for a decent experience. so the recommended is a 6700xt, even ps5 runs a rx 6700.
2060/2070 is very genreous and assumes you're assuming dlss cope scaling to like 960x544.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:38:14 No.103942957
>>103942924
elden ring hdr is a bit fucked by default
special K makes it a bit better but you can't use special K and play online
elden ring hdr is a bit fucked by default
special K makes it a bit better but you can't use special K and play online
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:43:54 No.103942984
I’m thinking of buying Starlink’s internet. Are there any downsides to it besides giving money to Elon Turd?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:44:19 No.103942989
>>103941915
>slop scaling on a 4060
This is ass backwards. The 4060 relatively advantaged when engaging DLSS Super Resolution (e.g., at 1440p) because it's more suited to rendering lower resolutions and of course VRAM demands decrease.
>>103941795
The 4060 is a weak GPU in general, so you're trying to run high quality RT, you'll want a 5070 at the minimum. Definitely DO NOT buy a last gen graphics card unless you're getting a huge discount
If you're getting an aftermarket cooler (not sure whether the 5700X comes with one), just get one of the Thermalright coolers like the Peerless Assassin 120 or Phantom Spirit
The SSD is a garbage QLC drive. Right now the SN5000 or the 990 Evo / Plus are the best value drives.
The RM650 isn't ATX 3.x / doesn't have 12VHPWR. Search for a PSU on pcpartpicker using the 12VHPWR filter.
>>103941730
Remember AMDrones pollute this thread
>slop scaling on a 4060
This is ass backwards. The 4060 relatively advantaged when engaging DLSS Super Resolution (e.g., at 1440p) because it's more suited to rendering lower resolutions and of course VRAM demands decrease.
>>103941795
The 4060 is a weak GPU in general, so you're trying to run high quality RT, you'll want a 5070 at the minimum. Definitely DO NOT buy a last gen graphics card unless you're getting a huge discount
If you're getting an aftermarket cooler (not sure whether the 5700X comes with one), just get one of the Thermalright coolers like the Peerless Assassin 120 or Phantom Spirit
The SSD is a garbage QLC drive. Right now the SN5000 or the 990 Evo / Plus are the best value drives.
The RM650 isn't ATX 3.x / doesn't have 12VHPWR. Search for a PSU on pcpartpicker using the 12VHPWR filter.
>>103941730
Remember AMDrones pollute this thread
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:54:40 No.103943091
So after months of instabilities, random crashes, hours of troubleshooting and swapping every component on my PC except for the CPU/GPU, last night my system stopped booting for good. I got a new PSU hoping my CPU wasn't fried and this is what I found when I disconnected the old one: 8 pin cable for CPU melted at the PSU end. WTF causes this? It's worked fine for years and it was properly seated. The CPU has never been overclocked and the PSU is a Seasonic 80 Plus Gold, so not a no-brand piece of shit.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:58:08 No.103943127
>>103941466
If your board's dead, sell the chip and rebuild
Otherwise you can pretty much just sort by the cheapest B550 or even A520 to go with the trash CPU
>>103941241
Did you plug in CPU power?
>>103941229
If you want lowest motion blur, you should be buying a monitor with ULMB2
If your board's dead, sell the chip and rebuild
Otherwise you can pretty much just sort by the cheapest B550 or even A520 to go with the trash CPU
>>103941241
Did you plug in CPU power?
>>103941229
If you want lowest motion blur, you should be buying a monitor with ULMB2
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:58:38 No.103943140
>>103942957
>elden ring hdr is a bit fucked by default
a video from 2 years ago plasmatv for gaming says er has a perfect hdr implementation no raised blacks etc
I still don't get hdr, it looks better in er if i turn it on, but only if I crank brightness to max and saturation up to max, it only looks better because the screen can get brighter, and the elements can get brighter, is this all there is? I guess
turn down the brightness slider and saturation to 5/10 in both and swap between hdr and sdr and the difference is near zero almost I guess
>elden ring hdr is a bit fucked by default
a video from 2 years ago plasmatv for gaming says er has a perfect hdr implementation no raised blacks etc
I still don't get hdr, it looks better in er if i turn it on, but only if I crank brightness to max and saturation up to max, it only looks better because the screen can get brighter, and the elements can get brighter, is this all there is? I guess
turn down the brightness slider and saturation to 5/10 in both and swap between hdr and sdr and the difference is near zero almost I guess
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:00:04 No.103943154
>>103938835
I can't find good case with 2 5.25" help
I can't find good case with 2 5.25" help
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:03:12 No.103943176
>>103943154
pop air
pop air
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:03:30 No.103943179
>>103942989
>Remember AMDrones pollute this thread
Even though we have a loser who mass replies to anyone saying anything positive about Radeon ever with bullshit infographics and yourself. Both shilling a trillion dollar corporations gpus for no payment. There is no one in this thread doing the same level of shilling for Radeon or intel cards.
You and the other nvidifaggots are the worst most consistently bad faith posters in this general and you accuse everyone that disagrees with you of doing what you're doing
For the pc build guy seriously don't buy a 4060. If you are on a strict ultra budget and can't wait for new gpus and pay more then 300 dollars you are literally better off getting a used 6700xt off ebay then buying a 4060, it's consistently faster and never runs into vram issues at 1080p unlike the 4060. Vid related
https://youtu.be/QI0GS0IBMoI?feature=shared
>Remember AMDrones pollute this thread
Even though we have a loser who mass replies to anyone saying anything positive about Radeon ever with bullshit infographics and yourself. Both shilling a trillion dollar corporations gpus for no payment. There is no one in this thread doing the same level of shilling for Radeon or intel cards.
You and the other nvidifaggots are the worst most consistently bad faith posters in this general and you accuse everyone that disagrees with you of doing what you're doing
For the pc build guy seriously don't buy a 4060. If you are on a strict ultra budget and can't wait for new gpus and pay more then 300 dollars you are literally better off getting a used 6700xt off ebay then buying a 4060, it's consistently faster and never runs into vram issues at 1080p unlike the 4060. Vid related
https://youtu.be/QI0GS0IBMoI?featur
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:03:50 No.103943184
>>103938910
It won less vram
It won less vram
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:04:38 No.103943191
>>103942139
It's fine both of those hardly consume any power. Just don't get some no-brand PSU that claims to be 550W but is actually only like 300W on the 12V rail (which is what powers the CPU/GPU). Just look at the specs and make sure it has at least 450W+ on the +12V.
It's fine both of those hardly consume any power. Just don't get some no-brand PSU that claims to be 550W but is actually only like 300W on the 12V rail (which is what powers the CPU/GPU). Just look at the specs and make sure it has at least 450W+ on the +12V.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:06:00 No.103943207
>>103941015
Used isn't worth it unless you're getting a huge discount. 30% is absolute minimum, and that's only if you know exactly what you're doing. A used 3080 for 30% off the 4070's retail price is garbage. Needs to be more like 50% to be a consideration
>>103940839
For workloads like Blender, none at all. Not much in gaming either on average, but there might be a few specific games where you see lower than expected performance. Metro Exodus Enhanced is one of those games where you'll see maybe 10% perf decrease IIRC.
Having said that, the only CPU that could POSSIBLY be close to a match in gaming for the 5080 while using PCIe 3.0 is the 5700X3D, and that's only if you have an older motherboard, not really the fault of the CPU
>>103940687
Wait for reviews. Short answer is no. Usually there's an MSRP model that's good enough that you don't need to spend more
>>103940615
This is related to strobing (sample and hold), not panel technology. A BFI OLED would be far better for motion clarity
Used isn't worth it unless you're getting a huge discount. 30% is absolute minimum, and that's only if you know exactly what you're doing. A used 3080 for 30% off the 4070's retail price is garbage. Needs to be more like 50% to be a consideration
>>103940839
For workloads like Blender, none at all. Not much in gaming either on average, but there might be a few specific games where you see lower than expected performance. Metro Exodus Enhanced is one of those games where you'll see maybe 10% perf decrease IIRC.
Having said that, the only CPU that could POSSIBLY be close to a match in gaming for the 5080 while using PCIe 3.0 is the 5700X3D, and that's only if you have an older motherboard, not really the fault of the CPU
>>103940687
Wait for reviews. Short answer is no. Usually there's an MSRP model that's good enough that you don't need to spend more
>>103940615
This is related to strobing (sample and hold), not panel technology. A BFI OLED would be far better for motion clarity
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:12:42 No.103943256
>>103943091
looks like it fucking blew up / melted on the inside where the bubble in the plastic is. probably a manufacturing defect. similar issue that those new NVIDIA connectors had where the connection wasn't solid so there was a lot of resistance which creates a ton of heat. gasses or w/e from the molten plastic probably built up inside the connector and blew the thing apart. it may have been your own fault if you didn't plug the connector in all the way. always push that shit in hard and make sure it's fully seated.
looks like it fucking blew up / melted on the inside where the bubble in the plastic is. probably a manufacturing defect. similar issue that those new NVIDIA connectors had where the connection wasn't solid so there was a lot of resistance which creates a ton of heat. gasses or w/e from the molten plastic probably built up inside the connector and blew the thing apart. it may have been your own fault if you didn't plug the connector in all the way. always push that shit in hard and make sure it's fully seated.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:13:01 No.103943261
>>103943091
could be a short caused by a wire failure, could be a component in the PSU failing and overloading. it reminds me of what happened in one of my power points a couple months back.
could be a short caused by a wire failure, could be a component in the PSU failing and overloading. it reminds me of what happened in one of my power points a couple months back.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:14:06 No.103943276
>>103943179
>you are literally better off getting a used 6700xt off ebay then buying a 4060
Nah, if you're going used a 2060 Super is better in practice
>most consistently bad faith posters
The most consistently bad faith posters are VRAMemers and DLSS Deniers, aka AMDrones. 6700 XT isn't strong enough for new games. You'll be using low input resolution FSR, which is garbage, as shown here >>103942873. Pic related is quite literally generous to the 6700 XT
>>103939801
>Glad I went ahead and bought my 6950xt
What a retard. It's a housefire that's not even getting FSR4
>you are literally better off getting a used 6700xt off ebay then buying a 4060
Nah, if you're going used a 2060 Super is better in practice
>most consistently bad faith posters
The most consistently bad faith posters are VRAMemers and DLSS Deniers, aka AMDrones. 6700 XT isn't strong enough for new games. You'll be using low input resolution FSR, which is garbage, as shown here >>103942873. Pic related is quite literally generous to the 6700 XT
>>103939801
>Glad I went ahead and bought my 6950xt
What a retard. It's a housefire that's not even getting FSR4
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:15:53 No.103943290
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:15:58 No.103943291
So I'm making a mid-budget (2500 dollarinos soft limit, 3000 hard limit which I'd rather not hit) all-purpose rig, mainly aimed at goyming/movies/graphic work (drawing, Photoshop etc). Where did I fuck up?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M64p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7M64
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:20:18 No.103943319
>>103939541
>why would game devs waste time optimizing for Nvidia
Because PC is better, and games are developed on PC while being spec'd for conslows. How many influencers or streamers do you see playing on conslow? If games ran like shit on PC it would massively damage sales because of the conversation around the game
>>103939393
It's crazy that Polaris was AMD's best selling GPU series ever and they dropped support for it
>>103939269
Maybe around that for the lowest binned chip from the lower die
>why would game devs waste time optimizing for Nvidia
Because PC is better, and games are developed on PC while being spec'd for conslows. How many influencers or streamers do you see playing on conslow? If games ran like shit on PC it would massively damage sales because of the conversation around the game
>>103939393
It's crazy that Polaris was AMD's best selling GPU series ever and they dropped support for it
>>103939269
Maybe around that for the lowest binned chip from the lower die
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:24:47 No.103943354
>>103939243
>Because the 7600 is better than the 4060
What a retard. It's not opposite day
4060 has DLSS, which makes it approximately 7700 XT tier
>>103939215
>nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024
They never said this, in fact almost two years ago Nvidia released a roadmap that showed consumer Blackwell in the beginning of 2025
>Because the 7600 is better than the 4060
What a retard. It's not opposite day
4060 has DLSS, which makes it approximately 7700 XT tier
>>103939215
>nvidia both said themselves that they would launch new GPUs in Q4 2024
They never said this, in fact almost two years ago Nvidia released a roadmap that showed consumer Blackwell in the beginning of 2025
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:28:51 No.103943390
>>103939097
It's really insane that people don't understand the agenda that AMDumboxed pushes. The agenda literally disagrees with the channel's own data
>>103939063
>Hardware Unboxed is easily the best source of raw data
I don't mind its data (even though a lot of it is curated/cherrypicked) but AMD Steve's conclusions are never to be trusted, as they're often antithetical to his own data
It's really insane that people don't understand the agenda that AMDumboxed pushes. The agenda literally disagrees with the channel's own data
>>103939063
>Hardware Unboxed is easily the best source of raw data
I don't mind its data (even though a lot of it is curated/cherrypicked) but AMD Steve's conclusions are never to be trusted, as they're often antithetical to his own data
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:30:48 No.103943417
heading to microcenter in a few and I want the 7800x3d. for the bundle price, does this look like a good setup?
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006986/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650-e-tuf-gaming,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
Not sure if theyll let me substitute a B850 board for the bundle price.
https://www.microcenter.com/product
Not sure if theyll let me substitute a B850 board for the bundle price.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:42:21 No.103943542
>>103943390
obsessed
obsessed
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:43:57 No.103943559
>>103943417
its not a restaurant so they wont you take the bundle as is or pay more
its not a restaurant so they wont you take the bundle as is or pay more
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:44:12 No.103943561
>>103943417
>Not sure if theyll let me substitute a B850 board for the bundle price.
Probably not, report back. The bundle is fine
If you can waitTM for a bit, you'll be able to get a 9800X3D for a similar cost
>Not sure if theyll let me substitute a B850 board for the bundle price.
Probably not, report back. The bundle is fine
If you can waitTM for a bit, you'll be able to get a 9800X3D for a similar cost
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:03:15 No.103943751
>>103943207
>A BFI OLED would be far better for motion clarity
bfi was obsoleted by the blurbusters tech they just dropped thou
also dimmer
key words
>would
>>103943127
>If you want lowest motion blur, you should be buying a monitor with ULMB2
I'd buy the zowie dyac 2 implementation as it seems better less buggy and more consistent
firmware matters and most those monitors are an even buggier mess and a headache to deal with
>A BFI OLED would be far better for motion clarity
bfi was obsoleted by the blurbusters tech they just dropped thou
also dimmer
key words
>would
>>103943127
>If you want lowest motion blur, you should be buying a monitor with ULMB2
I'd buy the zowie dyac 2 implementation as it seems better less buggy and more consistent
firmware matters and most those monitors are an even buggier mess and a headache to deal with
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:04:42 No.103943768
>>103943561
Any real benefit stepping up to the 9800x3d over the 7800x3d?
I only play video games, nothing else. I'm slowly purchasing more up to date hardware, as my goal is to get an ultrawide meme panel.
Any real benefit stepping up to the 9800x3d over the 7800x3d?
I only play video games, nothing else. I'm slowly purchasing more up to date hardware, as my goal is to get an ultrawide meme panel.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:08:00 No.103943812
>>103943768
It's substantially faster in CPU limited gaming scenarios, about 20% IIRC. Most of the time you'll be GPU limited, but when you do hit those CPU limited scenarios, it'll help. There's nothing wrong with getting the 7800X3D for that price if you need something, but if you don't, on principle I wouldn't buy previous gen hardware if it's faster at a similar price (and the MSRPs are quite similar)
It's substantially faster in CPU limited gaming scenarios, about 20% IIRC. Most of the time you'll be GPU limited, but when you do hit those CPU limited scenarios, it'll help. There's nothing wrong with getting the 7800X3D for that price if you need something, but if you don't, on principle I wouldn't buy previous gen hardware if it's faster at a similar price (and the MSRPs are quite similar)
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:09:12 No.103943822
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:10:32 No.103943836
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:12:41 No.103943850
>>103943091
Out of all things, seasonic has had a small history of fucking up cables.
I was going to buy a Seasonic Focus gold way back but I was discouraged from reviews.
Out of all things, seasonic has had a small history of fucking up cables.
I was going to buy a Seasonic Focus gold way back but I was discouraged from reviews.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:47:43 No.103944212
Let me get this straight, the new 5000 series is not much of an improvement on the hardware side, just upgraded RAM, more clockspeed, thus around the same increase in power draw making the cards not efficient at all.
The improvements are all driver/software side.
AMD is exactly the same.
Good, I will keep my GTX 1070, which I just undervolted to 0.9 Voltage core with a bit of OC even.
Electricity is very expensive here.
The improvements are all driver/software side.
AMD is exactly the same.
Good, I will keep my GTX 1070, which I just undervolted to 0.9 Voltage core with a bit of OC even.
Electricity is very expensive here.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:12:45 No.103944487
>>103944212
the new series can be summarized up to, you get more performance if you wanna pay the exact same amount in % for the performance increase in %, that being a 5090 which is the only jump in performance
everything else is the same for the same amount of money
100% stagnancy
you will never get more for the same again now
it's just price increase every time you want more perf
6090 2499
7090 2999
8090 3499
9090 3999
the new series can be summarized up to, you get more performance if you wanna pay the exact same amount in % for the performance increase in %, that being a 5090 which is the only jump in performance
everything else is the same for the same amount of money
100% stagnancy
you will never get more for the same again now
it's just price increase every time you want more perf
6090 2499
7090 2999
8090 3499
9090 3999
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:17:43 No.103944540
>>103944487
gay as fuck man, I hate this timeline. Let's go back like 8 years ago to the peak.
gay as fuck man, I hate this timeline. Let's go back like 8 years ago to the peak.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:24:37 No.103945301
>>103941872
get a gold psu
get a gold psu
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:31:00 No.103945389
>>103944212
RTX 60 will be the node jump, meaning better perf/watt. If you can hang on to your 1070 until then, more power to you. If not, a 5060 will be approximately a 3 or 4x improvement over your 1070, probably at less wattage, but honestly even a low end card like that is a waste if you have a 1080p 60 Hz monitor without adaptive sync. And of course if your CPU is as old as your 1070, it'll limit a 5060 as well.
So maybe saving (or applying whatever money you have to make more for you in the interim) until RTX 60 and then fully rebuilding would be the best option
RTX 60 will be the node jump, meaning better perf/watt. If you can hang on to your 1070 until then, more power to you. If not, a 5060 will be approximately a 3 or 4x improvement over your 1070, probably at less wattage, but honestly even a low end card like that is a waste if you have a 1080p 60 Hz monitor without adaptive sync. And of course if your CPU is as old as your 1070, it'll limit a 5060 as well.
So maybe saving (or applying whatever money you have to make more for you in the interim) until RTX 60 and then fully rebuilding would be the best option
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:33:49 No.103945436
>>103938835
is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the Ryzen 5600x solid?
is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the Ryzen 5600x solid?