What are some hegelian kinos

Queen of /film/

>>208001063
Define evil cinema.

>>208001156
Cinema that's evil.

Thread for the discussion of arthouse and classic cinema.

>/film/ charts
https://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ
>/film/ directors directory
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs
>/film/ literature
https://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlA
>but anon, where do I find these films?
https://rentry.org/filmlinks
https://rentry.org/kinolinks
>script to make 3x3 webms
https://textdoc.co/D5QNYIX2avmsqi49

>>208001188
Evil post.

>>208001202
Evil reply.

>>208001156
no u

>>208001120
CUTE

>>208001063
>QotD
Lynch's kinos had some bad vibes, specially Inland Empire and Lost Highway

I am evil.

There's sum shi I have seen
evil shi in movies
makes my skin shiver shi-shi-shiver

We're all evil.

>>208001185
>>208001234
I have no idea what "evil cinema" is supposed to be.

>>208001063
>QOTD
Evil doesn’t exist, no examples

Pitch me a film to watch now

>>208001281
Cinema that's evil.

>>208001294
I…can’t!!

>>208001290
postmodernist clown

>>208001156
YOU HAVE A DICTIONARY!!!
That reminds me, glad I BTFO the “objective” retard in the last thread, what a dumbfuck.

>>208001317
Ok. Evil still doesn’t exist.

>>208001294
That one with Julianne Moore, her character is a conflicted woman, you know the one

>>208001281
Evil opinion.

>>208001378
The one with Sarah Gadon?

>>208001400
Yeah that one

>>208001378
The one where you can’t tell whether she’s laughing or crying, right?

Fuck this thread.

>>208001400
Based Black lover

>>208001454
Fuck this thread, fuck it... but with love.

>>208001400
No, the one with Jessica Harper.

>>208001441
Yes, this is it

>>208001378
>you know the one
I don't.

>>208001120
Charlottebros reign supreme.

>>208001156
All cinéma (and all art) is fundamentally evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCnGuK8CVc

This is evil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkpgz3uQ58U

>>208001567
ewww shes fat

>>208001516
Then OP's question is pointless since every film is an evil film.

>>208001491
Her character is on the verge of tears, that one

>>208001583
Only if you agree with Bataille.

>>208001567
Reserved for Kings.

Cinema is inherently left-wing.
The same way Opera is inherently right-wing.
All the great Directors were/are lefties (Godard, Bresson, Kurosawa, Kar Wai, Antonioni, Diaz, Fellini, Yang, Fassbinder Apichatpong, Herzog, Hsiao, Bertolucci, Lee, De Sica, Tsai)

>>208001706
Bresson was a chud. Godard was a chud in disguise.

>>208001516
Am I retarded or did he not make a very convincing case for why literature is evil? He just said you show evil things, and we imagine an evil ending. Is that really evil?

>>208001735
Not really.

>>208001281
You know, stuff like The Pope's Exorcist, shit that's just so fuckin totally evil, dude!

>>208001281
Its a meme

>>208001281
It has a hidden evil message in it, but it is subliminal and wrapped in pretty cinematography.

>>208001861
midsomar fits that description perfectly

>>208001735
That video is pretty reductive. He goes more in-depth in the book he's being interviewed about.
But it's worth remembering that he's also a French writer, so of course he's using a commonplace expression as a multifaceted buzzword.

>>208001807
The Pope's Exorcist is anti-evil though.

You'll feel a bad, evil, vibe when watching it. Hasn't this happened to you before?
>>208001880
That's what I'm talking about

>>208001063
Watch Octavio Is Dead

>>208001903
>Hasn't this happened to you before?
No.

>>208001916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhHCcUnm4SI

>>208001727
>Bresson was a chud.
Wrong.
>Godard was a chud in disguise
He was ugly and bald but his heart was in the right place (the left)

>>208001903
I got a shock of evil when Godzilla and King Kong clasped hands in a masonic grip in godzilla x kong does that count? It was then I realized I was watching a ritual

>>208001727
>Bresson was a chud
??? did you watch L'Argent

Only a left wing retard could bring politics out of nowhere and I don't speak to left retards

>>208001924
I've loved her ever since I found out she loves Black Kings.

>>208002008
Sarah Gadon is attracted to white men.

>>208002002
enjoy your right-wing cinema!

>>208002029
>Sarah Gadon is attracted to white men.
What a fucking racist

>>208002029
Not sure I believe that. Her husband is Jewish and she loves Kings. We Gadonbros worship Kings for her.

>>208001941
I don't believe you lil bro. How many films have you watched?
>>208001979
Unironically yes
>>208001988
NTA but why do you think L'Argent is 'un-chudlike'. If anything it criticises modern culture, abandonement of old morals, the deification of money. It just doesn't seem exclusively left wing, so I wanna read your opinion.

>>208002066
L'Argent movie leaves out the entire punishment and redemption part of the book which was its whole point. Bresson only adapted the opening chapter because at that point he has become extremely jaded and pessimistic about humanity

>>208001706
Wrong, the fact most filmmakers are left wing doesn't mean cinema is left wing, it means most filmmakers are left wing. The only thing cinema inherently is is cinema.

>>208002066
>'If anything it criticises modern culture, abandonement of old morals, the deification of money
I connect everything you said here to a certain Frankfurt School strain of leftist/Critical Theory writing, people like Adorno, Walter Benjamin. It's easy to forget, but, historically, "the deification of money" is a right wing notion.

What is cinema?

>>208002149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcjeAByzaQ
CINEMAAAAA
CINEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>208002149
Cinema is TRUTH at 24 frames per second.

>>208002149
Moving pictures.

>>208002171
leave latinx

>>208002123
only a positivist liberal cuck would deify money

>>208002178
Cinema is TRUTH at 120 frames per second.

>>208002149
>What is cinema?
Propaganda.

>>208001979
>He watched the ritual unknowingly and is now being harvested as a sacrifice
Many such cases.

>>208002030
Kek.

>>208002171
>>208002206
there are too many brazilians here. where's the kinskiposter? i miss him

>>208002195
Instagram reels confirmed cinema

>>208002171
>Memoriam
God cut him down.

>>208002197
What do latinx have to do with that trash movie?

>>208002224
no but mario galaxy is legit spooky masonic shit I'm glad I only had sega as a kid wtf

>>208002248
Least hateful Trump voter.

>>208002259
Can't you read? Some spanish guy posted that screenshot. We banned latinxs yesterday, but they keep coming back.
We need a bigger wall.

>>207971876
>>207971961
>Why didn't you tell us, would've wished you a happy birthday with my now traditional birthday Pepe.
Earlier I looked back at the thread on Jan 3rd and it turns out you actually did! I was confused until I realized I mentioned it in passing two weeks prior so I was genuinely surprised someone here remembered:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/207092911/#q207105481
Also I dunno why someone else replied to your post, that wasn’t me lol.
>I never know it's you when you don't post a picture of Harper.
A good portion of my posts don’t include Harper or any actress, I will say that much. I try to be halfway tasteful and have an ounce of self-awareness. I did admit it in that thread but I spoilered the picture:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/207564369/#q207576472

>>208002171
>>208002030
Of course, only brazilians liked this shit.

>>208002377
Please nuke us.

My rec for this evil, human preying thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR-EclGZQx4
Plus my shit-fi vocal cover of another spooky song for added wickedness and indulging the sin of vanity, with the words "MK" and "CIA" on the vocaroo link https://vocaroo.com/136RSCMkaCIA

>>208002377
Evangelical christianity is another gringo CIA psyop to replace the noble traditional religions of umbanda and candomble.

>>208002377
Do you guys actually hate us?
I'll just pretend to be American from now on.

>>208002431
To replace catholicism you mean, umbanda and candomblé have small numbers.

>>208002434
Don't do that Pedrinho. Us latinx must hold our ground.

These countries deserve a range ban.

>>208002434
Don't do that you fucking cuck. Plus americans are as hated as us if not more here.

>>208002434
pedrinho...

>>208002494
>>208002472
Let's stick together frens.
Let's pretend we're Americans.

>>208002491
Este chico es un cuck

>>208002491
If that happens the general becomes nothing but waifufags.

>>208002505
>pedrinho...
My fellow American :)

>>208002519
Never.

>>208002263
Every Mario game is a masonic ritual imo, but Mario 64 maybe the most masonic game of all time, if you are familiar with freemasonry you know that every part of the game is a mirroring of the initiations and trials that the masonic adept needs to overcome. The hell part of the game in particular is extremely initiatic / illuminist

>>208002292
Who's "we"? The Illuminati of the Discord?

>>208002377
Dios no ha muerto.

>>208002542
I'm not implying anything, we already estabilished where each waifufag is from and none of them are latinos.

>>208002326
>Nice! Yes and Crimson have always been my two favorites, at least early Yes before they fired Bill Bruford and went pop lol.
My man.
I'm not a prog guy at all but King Crimson around 1973/1974 is unbelievable, truly divine music, and the 80's material rules as well. I don't really care for the records they released after that, but Fripp's presence automatically elevates any album that he's attached to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKch8dZ61w

>>208002577
>running defense for peruvian shitposters
carlos stop. lets talk about how your hero inaritu is a washed up hack now

He's setting you up via ragebaiting for a future off-topic mass report... latinxs, we're better than this.

>>208002646
>running defense for peruvian shitposters
Wat

>>208002700
Don't engage hombre

i love the moving pictures

>>208002698
>>208002646
>>208002577
>>208002554
>>208002551
>>208002544
>>208002542
>>208002531
>>208002529
samefag

>>208002700
>>208002718
>>208002747
let it slide esse

>>208002747
In spirit, yes.

>>208002326
I always remember birthdays, i'll probably remember yours forever now, which is weird because we don't know each other.

How will AI improve cinema?

>>208002919
It won't.

>>208002919
Who is Al? Al Pacino?

It's over

Right-wing music https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nb7fAEQaJwE

>>208002984
his ideas might has well have been AI for the past decade anyway. no big loss for cinema

>>208002984
Paul Schrader is pretty dumb tho.

>>208003081
That Depardieu... He's too lucky for his own good

>>208003081
Holy fuck that coalburner is disgusting

>>208003190
This image speaks volumes

>>208002030
So much for cinema being inherently left-wing.

>>208003221
depardieu is stunning thoughbeit

>>208003256
Depardieu is white.

Stop engaging with it.

>>208003081
He's alive!

>>208003410
It's not my fault faggots said it was an amazing masterpiece
It's literally garbage and even has a line about how women are totally not allowed to be flawed but men are
It's complete and utter bullshit and the worst part is the faggot director shares my name, so he's out here making every Noah look like a shallow vapid cunt

Just watched this, I enjoyed it. Takes its time but it gets pretty good

>>208003439
Your name is Noah? That's such a vapid cunt name lmao. I'd change it if I were you.

Niggas out here really be named Humphrey

>>208003458
>read my lips
>lips clearly covered
What hack wrote this

>>208003081
Good to see you well!

>>208003470
Maldavius Figtree talking about Noah's name is quite a shocker.

>>208003498
the man is blind and reads things with his sense of tact, media literacy.

>>208003664
Woah maybe he's an empath just like me fr fr

>>208003439
>It's not my fault faggots said it was an amazing masterpiece
You should go back to wherever people said that.

>>208003439
You're sealioning me

Speed up

>>208003420
>>208003552
I appreciate it friends, unfortunately I was in the hospital. Happy late birthday to Baubro, going through the archived threads and I saw that I missed it.

>>208004742
Thanks, Kinskibro! Hope that you're feeling better.

>>208002491
>Ameritranny that goes to jail for pirating a movie
kek

>>208004810
This year is off to a shitty start between Lynch dying and this incident. I'm just glad to be alive and back in my own bed.
>>208004820
A pleasant surprise!

Reminder to hoard Japanese movies, my friends!

>>208005049
>>208005140
You are such a petty bitch

>>208005148
Why hoard them right now, anon?

>>208005176
You never know when you might need them.

>>208005116
Why did you go to the hospital, bro?

Bout to watch pic related what am in for?

>>208005443
A James Benning film

>>208005459
happy to say I haven't seen a single one of those

>>208005443
A James Benning joint

>>208005487
What do you watch? Marvel movies?

>>208005487
You will soon have seen a single one of those after having seen Landscape Suicide, a James Benning moving picture movie film.

>>208005459
That doesn’t really answer my question

>>208005512
I haven't seen but a few marvel films. Idk the 60-70's euro menu is mostly sewage what can I say and that's all that's on that image. Most recent watch was Pirates of Silicon Valley(1999)

>>208004742
>unfortunately I was in the hospital.
lmao the fuck happened. Did the Costa Rican guy try to beat you up as well?

>>208005544
>and that's all that's on that image
lol

>>208005514
just watch the movie picture

>>208005544
Your mother is sewage.

>>208005544
My mother is sewage.

>>208005379
>>208005562
I couldn't eat without excruciating stomach pain for a few days and I started pissing blood, turns out I had a huge blood clot in my liver.

>>208005623
Alright well so far it’s a women hitting tennis balls over and over again

>>208005648
Sucks, I also suffer from stomach pains, so I get you. Hope you get better.

>>208005459
Knew of 4, have seen 1, have 2 downloaded. I am become patrician.

>>208005685
Don't spoiler it for me please and just watch the film venture by James Benning.

>>208005627
>>208005639
Don't make it personal we're just talking movies guys

>>208005796
Middle-level

>>208003081
>>208003148
>>208003307
>>208003309
this is what he looks like now? what the actual fuck

>>208005823
peak male body

>>208005823
louis the xiv'esque

>>208005823
he became the character

>>208005823
it's for a role

>>208005980
>>208005796
>>208005745
make your own meme charts

>>208006007
The role of a lifetime!

>>208006007
which role? are they recasting jim carrey in the next sonic the hedgehog movie?

>>208006024
>john waters
John Waters said he makes silly moves out of love.

>>208006063
He films faggots eating dogshit
LITERALLY

>>208005459
i've incidentally seen a lot of these, some of them are incredible, but i don't really understand what makes them exit level arthouse

>>208006024
John is a lovely and pleasant guy, I can't imagine that someone would hate the man who made "Serial Mom"

>>208006088
Are you envious that he made a career out of faggots eating dogshit instead of doing it for free, like you do daily?

>>208006088
Yeah but he eat shit of out love

>>208005864
Lmao
>>208006009
Gotchu senpai

>>208006088
And that's why we love him.

How many gringos are here? seriously
this general is the most diverse shit ever
Only race missing are afros I guess

Any films like Pretty Baby if you sniff my drift?

>>208005459
Piavolicels, we're so back

>>208006009
uhmm you don't want that

>>208006130
Seen just 3 on this one what's even the theme here?

>>208006141
There's a black anon. Assuming he still posts here sometimes.

>>208006088
poop is based thoughbeit

>>208006144
sundays with sibyl or however you spell it

klaus > nastassja

>>208006199
Counterpoint, his daughter is crazy cute so you can kind of forgive him for raping her

>>208006164
Wow, I guess he is not a unitedstatian though. Probably european/zillian.

here we go again

>>208006235
I don't even recall if he said where he's from. He only mentioned his race because anons were discussing black directors.

>>208006254
only seen one of these

>pedo talk
>rape talk
>always at the same time
gee I wonder

>>208006404
sorry...

>>208005823
based on some of the posts above, I imagine this is what every person on this general looks like

>>208006274
There was a black dude from Mali and another guy who I suppose was from the US.

>>208006431
We're getting there.

>>208006431
I'm glad I started eating 1k cals this week to drop the kilos otherwise I'd look like that in the next 5 years

>>208006303
Lots to catch up on then.
Also which one?

>>208006152
Just a selection of some of my favorites :). Which 3 btw?
>>208006199
I'm not madly in love with Klaus thoughever'st'd've. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
>>208006224
That was Pola.

Someone explain Godard to me. I have no idea what to get out of his films.

>>208006595
what the fuck do you get out of any film

>>208006595
gun girl xd

also communism

>>208006607
fucken nuthin

>>208006607
Everything

>>208006431
Skinny manlet here. I’d assume 50% looks like that pic and 50% looks like the lil Timmy pics

>>208006595
Try again in 5 years with more experience in film/literature/art/history/politics

>>208006595
He's just cool, you either get it or you don't. You need to let yourself go, don't try to make much logical sense of the dialogue and shit, just appreciate beauty and aesthetics and you'll enjoy him. That can be said for most kino too.
>>>
On another order of things, he was a master aestheticist and did some of the most interesting references, metanarrative plays and editing that you'll get for his era. He also had a great eye for composition, music and directing acting. Watch his Belmondo flicks first starting with Breathless, then go towards his more experimental material like Vivre sa vie when you feel that you're getting the hang of his style.

>>208006800
>"You would assume that the job of the director on a production would be to know things."
Based Hopkins

>>208006762
>He's just cool, you either get it or you don't.

Why are there so many books about them? It feels like it is way above my head.

>>208006833
Because he was very influential, intellectual and also innovative. Just read his Wikipedia article and you'll probably get an idea of his many contributions to cinema.

>>208006907
I don't get the messages in his films. People keep saying it's about communism, but I don't see how.

>>208006431
My photo is my avatar on Litterbox and I do not look like that

>>208006800
Hopkins got Lynched. Lynch was method-directing him. He gave Hopkins no directions. Hopkins tried to intentionally tank the movie by giving a non-performance and acting dry as possible. But this is exactly what Lynch wanted to counter the grotesque elephant man.

>>208001063
>Anger

All of them, as The Man himself explained. Film itself is an inherently evil art form, and this is precisely what drew him to it in the first place. So happy that he lived so long and kept his mind. Even his pointy ear looks demonic in that bisexual lighting. Love everything about it.

>>208006595
You can play Godard Bingo with each of his films.
Alphaville was pretty cool tho

Why did every pre-Shoplifters Kore-eda movie flop despite him becoming more mainstream friendly since the 2000s?

>>208007114
He had some left wing, politically charged films. If you watch La chinoise, there is no way you won't get the "message".

Not effortposting about films is killing /film/

>>208007387
True

>>208007242
Japanese audiences could immediately see that he was just an orientalist grifter.

>>208007242
Koreeda is a meme, mogged by even /a/shit. He relies on the asian grift to get by in western festivals, but the Japanese people are disgusted by his brand of orientalism.

>>208003399
Letterboxd-tier criticism.

>>208007481
>>208007242
>>208007484
Where does this meme come from? His films are contemporary.

>>208007497
Fitting for a Letterboxd-tier film.

>>208007503
>His films are contemporary.
So?

Maybe I would like Koreeda more if he was filming in black and white...

>>208007208
>Film itself is an inherently evil art form

Anyone who says shit like this doesn't watch a lot of movies. What they really want are a return to the glory days, a few genres that have died due to the internet, streaming, "premium" tv, and other factors.

Dead genres include:
>Westerns (Dead since late 70's comes back sporadically)
>Crime movies (moved to tv)
>RomComs (Died about 15 years ago due to streaming)
>Buddy Comedies (Replaced by capeshit)
>Big Budget Original Sci-Fi (Replaced by capeshit)
>Stoner Comedy (Replaced by the internet)
>Kung fu films (Replaced by capeshit)

Eventually all of these genres will have a small revival. Film will be 'cool' again.

For years the music bio pic was dead now they have half a dozen of them every year. Capeshit is winding down if Superman is bad don't expect many more of them.

I'm not even going to acknowledge the comment on early film because it is clearly wrong.

>>208007537
Just saying.

>>208007503
>Where does this meme come from?
From Taiwanon. You must be very new here if you're unaware of him.

>>208001252
>>208005116
>>208006800
david lynch is the very first director retards start pretending to like once they decide they want to be a "film guy". they watch eraserhead and think "wow that's so weird" and then the first thing they do is start telling other people how much they love david lynch.

>>208007600
Don't think Anger saying that /film/ is evil art form had anything to do with what you just said.

>>208007719
me but I genuinely liked him and still do

>>208007192
I saw an interview with Cronenberg a while ago where he mentioned that he doesn't direct his actors at all. He just gives them the script and lets them do whatever they want with the material.
The logic being that professionals should know how to do their job, and he should only intervene if working with non-trained actors.

>>208007600

As I explained, I was simply repeating a remark that Anger said. I think Anger knew a thing or two about movies and the movie business.

>>208007719
Is that what happened to you or what?

>>208007719
You're so cool Anon.

>>208001156
Morally objectionable movies.

I liked Maborosi and Our Little Sister

>>208008000
I like you

>>208008000
>>208008055
I like your dubs

>>208001706
Your point being?

holy KINO

Holy shit my threads are doing iron man numbers right now. Stop and appreciate all these consecutive mires.

>>208008295
my ex gf from Berlin is on that poster

Does lil newfag think a reply is a thread and that a reply means agreement lmfao?

>>208008331
The bald guy?

>>208008335
So it seems.

>>208008335
there is a subset of incels who never got any attention that get butterflies whenever they receive a reply. I used to be like that, but I grew up

>>208001281
Films that further capitalism and consumerism

>>208008295
Seriously?

>>208008702
>guys look I'm a communist in 2025 after hundreds of failed communist states and the unequivocal fact that communism is pure evil whose sole objective is the destruction of human existence!
you're so epic for that bro

>>208007387
I’ll post again next week. Been watching nothing but Lynch lately of course, which has already been discussed to death everywhere and I have nothing to add.

>>208008756
>after hundreds of failed communist states
Is that so? Name one hundred failed communist states.

>>208006144
Piccole Labbra
Pensées et visions d’une tête coupée

>>208008783
and with one heroic sentence you sliced through my hyperbole. you're truly the champion of humanity and the one most endowed with correctness

>>208008783
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_states#Former_communist_states

>>208008802
Thanks

I'm alot like Alain Delon from the movie Purple Noon

>>208008803
That's just 85 communist states

Imagine how sad it would be to live in a country without rich cinema history.

>>208008854
>imagine being german
aigoo..

>>208008854
Rude. I didn't didn't choose to be born in the US.

>>208008829
how so

>>208008879
My looks

>>208008879
In every way. The way he sat in the chair, his economy of words, his murderous obsession... and his carefree way he would walk through fish markets. Everything

>>208008879
My name. My name is literally Alain Delon

>>208008917
wtf i thought u died

>>208008945
I never died in my life. Not a single time

>>208008870
>I didn't didn't choose
So you did choose? Why phrase it like this?

is abel ferrara considered /film/? i just saw the king of new york. it was entertaining but it came across to me as a silly b-movie with style. almost hard to take seriously at times.
luv me those night shots tho.

>>208008957
i believe u. all of those idiots who say shit like "i died for a minute on the operating table!" are all liars. only jesus could come back from that. straight facts

>>208008980
I've watched a few Ferraras in my time and they all kinda fit a similar bill of interesting, nice and seedy aesthetics, but always fall short in some way but have flashes of real brilliance. The starkest example would be his Padre Pio film Shia Lebeouf delivers one of the greatest performances in cinema history, but the film around it is literal shit. China Girl has a soft spot in my heart because it depicts asian/white interracial couple and that is my favorite thing especially when its old, like in the 80's

So that's what I have to say about that

>>208009021
You have given me inspiration...

Shia Labeef great actor

Beef Lasheet

>>208009050
Cool bitch fuck gwailo dick . Post more recs.

Somebody bake

the hell is a gwailo

>>208009243
okay I will

bakin

>>208009246
Chinese for lil Timmy

>>208009243
One of the lil bros have to do it. A real nigga can't bake them all the times.
>>208009246
Google it lil bro.

>>208009218
W-what?

>>208009243
3 min still here

New

>>208009300
>>208009300
>>208009300

>>208008715
I liked it :(

Too early

Now, the fun brgin

>>208009384
Go on, show me the funny

>>208009429
No...

>>208009349
ok

ass

Does a movie about kids hanging out need to be fucking 130 minutes long? it's not particularly funny like Ozu's Good Morning either

>>208010023
mes petites amoureuses is also like 130 minutes

>>208010023
Not my problem

bros, pretty baby or bathtub?

>>208008980
Yes, now go watch The Addiction.