>>103926213
first for PLUTUS

To the anon who suggested moondrop space travel, they are fucking amazing, these are my first tws. They are really convenient. They sound a bit dull compared to my chu2 and snoy 7506, they get more use than chu2 though. Thanks anon, you are the best.

>>103926339
why didn't you just get trn bt20 pro and use the pos you like?

>>103926342
>trn bt20 pro
They look awful though anon. I want something I can run around in and not look retarded. Not using chu2 because the cables are too short to use it with my PC. I want the cables to be almost as long as my 7506, then I'd use them more.

>>103926339
cute bootleg cirno

>>103926342
BT20 Pro doesn't have protruded connectors, TRN being retarded since BT20XS (very slight protrusion) and vanilla BT20 did.

I currently have Final E500
Is it better to get Hexa or Final E1000 or Final E3000 or both E1000 and E3000?

>>103926626
how about none of the above. enjoy what you have or get other pos. final e series is just the same driver with different damping and tuning and hexa is ass.

>>103926626
Figure out what you don't like about your e500 and then look for IEMs that will fix those problems. Buying IEMs is closer to buying shoes than to buying CPUs. Nothing is simply "better".

what is the current or upcoming kino from KZ for this year?. EDC Pro still the goat?

BTR17 still going strong
I think youre immune to fiioing if you buy the top-of-the-line product

>>103926498
Desu ne? I want one and I can't find it in my country at reasonable price. If I pay import tax on a plushie, I should not be allowed to spend monies.

>>103927127
>KZ
>goat
I never thought I'd hear both in the same sentence. Its pos anon.

>>103926847
>hexa is ass.
Why?
>>103926889
I like neutral-ish tuning, but E500 is not exciting/lively enough for some songs. I concluded that E500 is not great with electric guitar, bass guitar, and the bass is not punchy enough.
For example I want these to sound more exciting and fuller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Le0qG3pI7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66FfVXogNUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr39Ucq_bMM
I also have D-Fi switch, which can cover that issue, but it feels like the instruments overlap each other.

BGVPOS DMA has arrived. No unboxing because there's not much to show. My impressions so far (I suck at reviewing):
*Although the soundstage isn't very spacious, it has a perceivable atmosphere. There's decent imaging to the point your inner eye can almost see how an instrument is played.
*The instrument separation is great; you can single out one as easily as a thread in fabric and follow it as the song goes on.
*The detail retrieval is pretty nice; I've discovered new sounds in relatively familiar tracks (e.g., that background jingle in We Drift Like Worried Fire at around 4:50).
*The bass is textured and full-bodied but very lively and dynamic, also punchy when it needs to be. It extends beyond the soundstage, adding a lot to the atmosphere, and is definitely the highlight of this IEM.
*The vocals feel intimate and natural (note to myself: try listening to some ASMR), and the mids are pretty clean overall.
*The treble is crisp but can be very shouty (esp. in games) to the point I'll have to use EQ. What the fuck were they thinking?
*The channel imbalance is there. That pestering thought that you might be going deaf won't leave your mind once you've noticed it, even if you know about the imbalance.

The build and comfort are where my biggest disappointment comes from. The build is standard, but no attempt was made to make it slightly more ergonomic. The nozzles are huge, almost as huge as the pain in the ass you experience looking for the right eartips. At least the nozzles have lips. The cable is thick and seems durable, but it's fairly heavy and pulls on your ears, making this IEM rather uncomfortable and even painful to wear for prolonged periods of time. Also, at one point, I started to feel tingling at what seemed to be the exact points BC holes made contact with my skin. Well, I suppose it proves that bone conduction works.

Is it worth it? Maybe if you have money to spare and are interested in relatively obscure IEMs.

le pos has arrived

>>103928320
why did you buy that pos...

>>103928348
small and cute for carrying around and using in the car VS the LG V30

so far, sounds worse than the V30, but the form factor is a lot better, has more power on tap (easily selectable gain mode compared to the LG which is a pain), great screen, decent to use UI, no major bugs.

About what I expected honestly.

Will you buy?

Let me guess, you “need” more?

>>103929082
2pos

Why the fuck do they sound so different? Chu2 sounds so much better.

>>103926213
>see pic
>looks pretty cool
>realize it's probably some ai generated bullshit
>realize it's actually just old
>realize we can't have cool things anymore
I hate that my mind went straight to "probably ai generated".

Trying out the basshead tune in space travel. I'm honestly not sure if it is any different.

>>103929199
It’s cheap wireless so not the greatest codecs. Might be some timing/distortion issues you don’t get with wired POS

>>103926213
>AVOID USING:
• Apple dongle

we can't let chinks/jeets assume OP without doing something dumb, geez... at least let the "on android" dumbass

>>103929237
Stop gooning.

nobody states how long is the cable, but they do put 20 lines of shitty, mostly irrelevant info, and no, i will not buy Your garbage unless You tell me how long the cable is and no i will not buy replacement cable for some shitty cheap garbage

>>103929480
I asked if I should get ultrasonic, but I was suggested this desu.

>>103929559
>Stop gooning.
Uh... wronk website??

>>103929925
I'm pretty sure that's a common info

>>103929953 three from Your OP shill list IVE checked have no such info and i did not bother further

>>103929925
Same issue with my chu2, bought replacement cables because its pretty, didn't know much about length at the time. chu2 gets the least amount of use of the 3 pos that I have. Snoy 7506 and space travel get the most amount of use.

can I drive KZ PR3 with a sony xperia 5v

tfw I bought Shanling MTW200 Plus

>>103929559
>>103929925
One anon says stop gooning and other anon replies with this cock monster, she looks like she swallows them whole like pills.

>>103929510
>b-b-b-but crapple dongle isn't shit!!!!!111
>you just have to use it on curryPhone
>and you cant be in europe
>and only at nights
>but not on weekdays
>and only if it's a full moon
your currynigger dongle is shit
deal with it currynigger
literally no other dongle in the history of dongles is as cucked as your currynigger trash

I really like using my Apple Dongle (USA) on my Linux Thinkpad, despite being European.

>>103930597
Got any more buzzwords?

>>103930597
Nothing wrong with EU dongle, just dont be deaf.

>>103930597
I only own the EU dongle and if i use it above 50-50% volume i would kill my eardrums.

they are still mentally ill just enough to believe that dac in 2025 makes a difference hahahah oof

>>103930820
that indian beach damn wtf why so much trash

>>103927408
>Why?
>and the bass is not punchy enough.
Even more certain Hexa is very much a non-ideal IEM for you. to try next. If you live where you can order from Amazon you can simply try it yourself and return if you don't like it. Hexa has lifeless weak bass with an overall bland tuning, middling technicalities, and subpar timbre. You'll get better separation than D-Fi, that's a very low bar.

>>103928101
>tl;dr pos
while i salute your sacrifice for the impressions, it was mostly in vain. on to the next pos eh

>>103930843 saar those are rocks, a rare sight for You i presume

>>103931048
He's talking about this.

>>103931298 .........yeah jealous cause im white and pretty ok......

okay now seriously list fucking cable lenght for every single shit You shill or kys rn

Kinera Loki without the BCD, interesting

Asked in the headphone general, got directed to here. copy/pasta

I'm from /fit/, so this isn't really my cup of tea, sorry in advance. Anyways, my ear buds just kicked the bucket. One of them isn't holding a charge and both are delivering a much lower quality than when I bought them, and they're far beyond the warranty date. Shopping for new earbuds is tough because you can't really listen to the music, you just have to take some shill's word for it. My buds were alright but they had a handful of features that I didn't care much for so I'm looking to branch out. I saw a few reviews about the JBL endurance peak 3's but they don't have active noise cancelling and the wind interference is a bit fucked. The JBL live pro 2's apparently have a lot of these features but not the ear hooks so I'm not entirely sold on those. I was looking at the Soundcore sport x20's but the more I read about them the more they seem to be a great decision or a lemon and I don't really want to risk that. Galaxy buds 3 pro seem alright but they're a bit over budget and no ear hook. But I do have a Samsung phone so it is a bit tempting to pay the extra since they're apparently so seamless. But then that raises the question about getting the 3's vs the pro 3's. Silicone ear tips get pushed out by my ear wax a lot, but having the speaker right up against the wax makes the speaker more dirty and faster. Both ways suck.
>why do you want the ear hooks
I sweat a lot and my ears have always made excess wax and it builds up very quickly despite cleaning them every other day or so, which makes standard ear buds not want to stay in like they should. I guess they're not really in mass produced ear buds anymore so I'll look at a lot of things.


Is there anything you guys recommend within these constraints?
>USD $150 or under
>ear buds, not headphones
>not air pods and not beats by dre
>active noise cancelling
>wireless
>waterproof to some degree
>ear hooks preferred

>>103931475
All the chinkshit iems come with standard 1.2m cable (could be shorter due to chink measurement). If you need longer, ask a vendor (xinhs, ivipq to name a few) to make it for you.

Are FiiO FF5 good earbuds for $100 or did I fuck up?

>>103933124
if you like earbuds then sure, but only if you like earbuds and not IEMs as both of these are very different in both comfort and sound

My Blessing 3 Dusk sounds the same as my Kato.

>>103933177
Anon, I…

>>103933177
>>103933447
this sub 600 Hz tuning should be 100% hearable lol and very obvious. wtf dude?

>>103931543
bump
>captcha 2SAD

>>103931543
Beats Powerbeats Pro are unironically good for what you're asking for. You should evaluate individual products, not brands.
Else when we're talking about earhook TWS it's a bunch of scamazon chinkshit of dubious quality. It's a niche form factor that is not audiophile-centric, it's for people running or working who barely give a crap about audio quality. FYI ANC that works well in wind is 1/100. You want to avoid enabling ANC as the mic and software-processing is simply not up to the task 90% of the time if we're talking running on a windy day.
I have Buds 3 Pro and various other TWS, IEMs, etc. I personally do not work out or run with anything in my ears because i prefer it that way (not to mention a phone flopping around in your pocket / arm band / w/e). Basically any earphones without earhooks (even with earhooks) jostle around and loosen over time during vigorous activity, and I can't be bothered to constantly re-adjust. Buds 3 Pro have a feature which automatically adjusts sound according to seal.

>>103931543
>>103933793
And I know I mentioned focusing on specific products, not brands, but as a general chink audio company in the Amazon TWS space, I like Soundpeats on average more than Anker Soundcore stuff. I assume either brand has a few models of earhook style as you request, I'd go with them over any other FANGOU XINYU rando branded earhooks if that's the direction you're leaning.

>>103931543
Maybe relevant to you, some people like / want open-ear / open-air form factor (nothing seals your ears, it's more like audio playing from mini-speakers next to your ear). FiiO and EPZ, and again many random chinknames have models like this, along with Shokz.

I'm looking for something to use in the gym so it has to be bluetooth (I known it's not optimal but bear with me)

>Budget
300 EUR (Germanistan)
>Intended use
media: mainly Spotify though I use lossless flacs for albums I often listen to, source: iPhone 16 Pro, environment: mainly gym, also while working
>Frequency response preference and music examples
No idea sorry
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
I'm using Airpods Pro 1st gen for convenience but I don't really like them. I think the battery's starting to fail after a few years now since I'm constantly recharging them. I use a DT 1990 at home and never owned IEMs otherwise. I really like the DT 1990s.

>>103933967
>source: iPhone 16 Pro
latest Airpods Pro simple as brotha. deal with their planned obsolescence and finite battery health (applies to all TWS anyways)

>>103929039
Probably, since it's only $50 and I am a sucker for nostalgic things with modern features.

>2025
>now people are paying to get Sn*wSk*'d
pos... pos never changes

>>103933887
I saw one of those in Best Buy a few weeks ago but it felt really awkward with them dangling like that. But I'll give them another look since now I'm in the market for earbuds again, can't hurt to look.
>>103933868
Hey even if it's chinkshit if it does what I need it to do I'll give it a go. I looked at Soundpeats on YouTube the other day but a handful of the people in the comments spoke about how the mic picks up a lot of wind and disrupts the music and shit so I kind of wrote them off based on that. But I mostly run on a treadmill so fuck it, I'll have another look.
>>103933824
>You should evaluate individual products, not brands
You're right, I'm just being hardheaded. I watched a video a long time ago where they tested some Beats tech and found no difference between those and no-name shit as well as adding weights to make it "feel" high end, but ask 3 times the price so I've been at odds with Dre ever since. But if it fits my needs and my budget I'll have a look at the very least, it can't hurt. I just don't care for apple products at all, after owning 2 iPads and a Macbook for schoolwork.
>Buds 3 Pro have a feature which automatically adjusts sound according to seal.
That's interesting for the same reasons you described. I appreciate the inputs anon. I will get up early tomorrow and hit up Best Buy and see what they have, try some stuff out and just see what feels good and sturdy.

>>103934295
>tech and found no difference
>but ask 3 times the price so I've been at odds with Dre
That's a big portion of audio gear in general lol. I'm empathetic to your point, but it's a reality of a lot of goods. Beats Powerbeats Pro did a decent job aiming for Harman target with nothing offensively wrong sound-wise. Can't speak to their other products like headphones.
>Buds 3 Pro
If you're using with a new Samsung phone, it's undeniable how feature-rich and capable they are.

>>103934295
>people in the comments spoke about how the mic picks up a lot of wind and disrupts the music
Like I mentioned in a post, ANC that functions well with higher outside wind noise is 1/100. It is a rare exception if something on the cheaper end handles it well, you're better turning off the ANC. ANC mainly targets ambient crowd / people noise, engine hum, etc.

>>103926213
is that a god damn tape measure?

>>103933153
what are some acceptable earbuds under 50$

>>103934867
there are a few recs in the shopping rentry. earbuds are an inherently flawed and limited form factor. paying more gets you even less than iems, and subjective impressions and measurements are also even less consistent than iems.
maybe a dunu alpha 3 on sale

>>103934867
Blue Vido sounds damn good.

holy POS!!

>>103934867
fyi Moondrop Block unironically smoke the majority of wired earbuds sound-wise because they benefit from DSP tuning based on B&K 5128 measurements. wired generic MX500 shells are just whatever the chink driver's frequency response is manipulated by some filters and holes (unsophisticated, imprecise, and non-comprehensive tuning methods)

>>103929996
>>103931048
>>103931333
That's NOT how you reply to any comments, you chump!

why do i need an amp if i listen at 6-10 volume?

>>103935640
your source has an amp, just a small one.
short answer: you don't.

Story time.
My AFUL POS 5+2 broke within a month and I got a free replacement which also broke within a month. Both times, the DDs died only on the left side. I bothered Hifigo about it for a while and they gave me a full refund for sending everything back at my own expense for shipping. So I guess they're not so bad if you're persistent. The weird thing is, I had to send it to a US address and I don't think they have a business office here, so it went to some chicken wing restaurant in Atlanta. The guy who signed for the package had a Chinese name though. Yes, I know I could've done 2 return swap scams by abusing Amazon's return policy but I am a moral citizen.

Anyway, it seems like the Dusk has the same problem with the DDs dying. The theory by reddit is that small amounts of moisture gets trapped inside over time without any way to evaporate out the vent. This shorts out the crossover. That doesn't explain why it's only the left side for everyone though.

>>103937476
meme as fuck 2DD setups that contribute nothing to sound and only contribute to greater failure. bravo chink driverwars consoomer madness.
shitty experience it seems, glad i dodged the awful bullet. when it released i was close to ordering it

>>103937476
Never had any issues with my Aful iem so far, but i didn't buy the 5+2 since it doesn't seem worth it compared to the P5 or Explorer.
Sounds like a weird issue to not notice though.

>>103937534
I also have the P5 and the P5+2 is a lot better for the bass. My P5s have lasted me 2 years without issue so it's just something about the 5+2. The only other mention about this issue is the product's lowest review on Amazon which mentions deafening noise killing one of the drivers.

>>103937703
sorry i misremembered. the deafening noise was for a dusk review i was looking at kek

>>103937730
likely from the dspiss cable. if not, doubly kek moondorp'd

>>103935251
Buds have 15dB variarion from the fit, it's all pure ass in the end no matter the stock tuning.

>>103935102
I decided to buy a pair out of curiosity. Is it the same thing even if there's no "Vido" word like picrel?

>>103940679
The green one use less power, easier to drive

I'm looking at a fairly cheap dongle/portable DAC that has integrated EQ to make it nicer to use with multiple devices. Something like the Quidelix 5k would be perfect but I want cheaper.
Fiio JA11 seems good but apparently it is a bit buggy and it also has only 5 bands (not a huge deal but still).
Also what's the cheapest bluetooth one that does on-device parametric EQ?

is the Qudelix 5k still the best

>>103941367
yeah

Hey, kinda new to this place.
I want to get a good pair of TWS earbuds for a 200-250~ dollar budget. I currently have the Linkbuds S, and while they are fantastic buds, the battery doesn't last shit.

I got to try the sony wf-1000xm5, which I thought were terribly uncomfortable. I just couldn't get used to the tips or the bulbous shape, even after swapping the tips for my Linkbuds S.
A lot of the brands from the rentry are not popular in my country, so I'd be paying a hundred extra dollars just for importation fees. That said, is Aliexpress a reliable place to buy these kinds of buds from? I know there's some legit stores, and I usually see stuff for around 30~ dollars less there. I just don't trust the chinese enough to lend them 200 dollars on good faith.

So far I eyed the Nothing Ear (2) after a friend let me try them on. Comfortable, and they sounded nice I guess.

I spent around 4 hours at e-earphones trying out iems and of all the ones I tried, the only pair that wow'd me compared to my xenns top were the Thieaudio Origin. I liked this pos so much I bought it there (yay weak yen). I especially like the instrument separation with these.

>>103942503
Scarbir.com is your friend. All these tws are eventually e waste when the batteries degrade, so paying a lot is stupid.
The QCY Melobuds Pro are the current flavor of the month, I like mine. ANC is passable, good battery life, and you can tweak the sound in the app.

>>103940920
>Fiio JA11 seems good but apparently it is a bit buggy and it also has only 5 bands (not a huge deal but still).
moondrop's new dongle echo-a and echo-b will have 10 bands and they are cheap, the app seems clunkier but it shouldn't be a biggie
https://x.com/shenzhenaudio/status/1879770749956690310

>>103942591
you must have giant fucking ears, when i demo'd the origin i couldn't get the BCD to rest properly against my pinna

>>103942785
>High-quality, oxygen-free copper, silver-plated upgrade cable, Silver Pill, priced at $499.99
lmao these fuckers

>>103942734
I see where you're coming from.
I'll try the QCY and the Moondrops. Don't feel too bad about spending 100~ bucks on some earbuds for comfort.

Mass pos impressions (meteor edition):

>Moondrop Meteor
Sound signature is bass-lite, airy, bright neutral, kinda like the Cadenza 4/Truthear Zero (blue). Unfortunately, treble is mildly harsh, female vocals end with a sharp ‘SH’ in its articulation, but easily remedied with tip-rolling. Good for EDM/electronic, though it’s bass-lite tuning does handicap note-weight and the timbre of instruments.

Stupid marketing gimmick, but sound is okay. Side-grade to Cadenza 4. 7/10.

>Truthear Hexa
Even weaker low-end than the Meteor. Absolutely terrible for classical – initial attack lacks bite due to shit bass, while decay is unnatural due to poor treble extension. But resolution and male vocals are decent I guess. 5/10.

>64audio Solo
Solo is just a bassy S12. With the same planar zing, and the same sibilance. At least the low-end is enjoyable. Male vocals sound overly husky for some reason. Side-grade to all planars on the market. 6.5/10.

>Symphonium x Nightjar Meteor
The BETTER Meteor. Bassy V tuning, reminiscent of the Elysian Annihilator 2023. Enjoyable low-end and tons of sparkle without being harsh. Very fun to listen to. Only con is that it suffers from BA bass and could use a bit more slam.

95% of the Annihilator for one-fifth of the price. Even better if you can find a used set. 9.5/10.

>>103943242
I wonder why Hexa was shilled everywhere as the standard sub-100 benchmark, were they all class-3 listeners?

>>103943242
you about echo my opinion of the Hexa, just means that I can trust your reviews. Meteor looks very interesting but it's sadly a purely BA set.

>>103943512
newfags (who don't know any better) shilling to even newerfags

>>103943242
can you try softears volume s and epz p50?

I just unpacked my Truthear Hexa and like a fucking idiot I stuck the connector into the two holes of the speaker (it fit quite well, unfortunately). It seems I pierced a red and green membrane in there, at least when I compare it to the other uninjured earpiece. So far, they sound normal and good. Did I only pierce the debris filter? If so, how bad is that? I keep my ears clean and will keep the IEMs in the little leather sachet they came with.

>>103943949
>needing to retard proof fucking cables
It's over.
They are the BA dampers to reduce resonance.

>>103943912
>volume s
next week
>epz p50
not in stock, ill keep a look out but dont count on it

still no info on how long are the fucking cables
jesus christ stupid chinese retards get Your act together and post about statistics that matter
i am going to need to replace my decade+ old panasonic ear cannal rapists any year now

Why do changs choose the same names for their iems at the same time? Moondrop meteor/Nightjar meteor, Thieaudio origin/Tanchjim origin, Cadenza/Kadenz etc.

>>103944217
i would name my earphone 90847g9u8f

>>103943949
bro what the fuck...

>>103944091
>>103944463
I honestly don't know what retard force was riding me there. I have been feeling a bit out of it today, but this I didn't expect. Guess they're fucked - the right one sounds harsher than the left one, though the left one's not nice either.

>>103944505
return them and lie that they arrived that way

>>103944275
>90847g9u8f
Who let the sony employee out of confinement?

>>103944600
I'll take my 80 € lesson on how not to be retard. Might order another pair to give them a fair try with intact dampers.

>>103945000
Aliexpress sells those dampers and tools, if you have the dexterity.

>>103940705
Different colour different signature? I found red, black, white, blue, green, purple, transparent black, transparent white
All of those are not similar to each other?

>>103945387
Thanks Anon, that would teach me even more. I'm decent at fiddling with small parts (though today indicates otherwise, I guess). Seems the Hexa use green and yellow dampers, these are standardized in ohms and dimensions, right?

>>103945898
I assume so, they're meant for Knowles drivers and the Hexa uses knockoffs.

opinions on moondrop starfield 2?

>>103944636
Kek

>>103945931
Right, I googled around and found a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5G3qzajRI
Yellow and green Knowles should work. Thanks again, Anon.

>>103941934
BRT17 is better

flatpos are far more comfortable than iems shame they sound like shit

>>103945944
>starfield 2
massive flop.
same old paint that will wear, same old heavy Aria metal shell, and particularly pronounced shouty upper mid-forward tuning (a departure from the original's smoother warmer signature)

>>103945944
oh not to mention the total meme "bass vent," system with microscopic finicky plastic parts that just: fall out of place and increase driver flex

are the MOONDROP x Crinacle DUSK still good for the price?

>>103948120
lol

>>103948129
what's a good alternative in that range

>>103948152
see shopping rentry

>>103948152
softears volume s
the new BENCHMARK
https://youtu.be/7lfRM1uFNOw

Best Budget combo to listen flac music?
Considering that I'm beginner and have a basic phone and only access to AliExpress

DUNU DK3001 bd

>>103948416
Fosi DS2 2024. or if you want slimmer dongle then Shanling UA Mini or FiiO KA11.
Tanchjim Bunny, EPZ Q1 Pro, or Juzear Clear on sale ~$30

>>103930183
don't know, if it's of any help I can only tell that I have no problem driving my S12 Pro with my Xperia 1 VI, so I assume you can

>>103948474
Nicee, anon, I'm going to try it. I want to listen to boards of canada as God intended.

>>103930975
>lifeless weak bass
it's not detailed but it's quite dynamic and can pack a punch if you get good seal with proper eartips, which you should anyway
>overall bland tuning
it's called neutral, actually it's close to the new meta, you probably just like V-shape pos
>middling technicalities
compared to Simgot EA500LM and planars that entered the sub-$100 price bracket they're indeed middling, but still not bad
>subpar timbre
well, it is a BA pos

>>103943949
you sir must do the needful and redeem Knowles dampers in the same colors as the originals and damper removal tool

>>103949083
new meta is a baldcel target for retarded balds

>>103944217
Truthear Zero / 7Hz Zero / Tanchjim Zero / the whole brand Zero Audio

Tried replacing the battery on my iPod Video but the screen wont turn on after changing for 2 days. I'm fucked.

>>103949135
new meta is literally the where the fuck is the sound coming from target, you have your ears plugged but you don't perceive the sound as coming from the earplugs, the level of naturality and transparency is the highest, but at the cost of being boring, since the lack of coloration makes it devoid of all excitement

yeah that's a certified headpos moment

>>103949181
ok baldie

tired of dongles
any recs for dsp cables? moondrop free DSP is good?

shiroi gang, blue 2 is coming soon ! !

>>103949598
how about red 2? fuck harman target

are there any upcoming sales?

only news from tanch is a new stargate dong

>>103949615
dunno but the zero 2 can be quite thicc with the impedance adapter

talk me out of it /iemg/

>>103949560
you just roll in from clueless town? >>103948129


>>103949817
some anon said they literally halted production or some shit. maybe in favor of the honkai collab, maybe because some component like the mic was busted

>>103949659
Lunar New Year starting in 2 days on Ali, already started on Linsoul and such. it's not a big sale, just meh. also the workers take holidays, so expect shipping delays

>>103950233
>you just roll in from clueless town?
so wich one then?

>>103949598
Cute box art.

>>103950611
nta but the tanchjim cable is currently the top one imo

>>103951056
the bar is so low then... ive found with tanch one that you cant put 3 low Q filters at once otherwise it resets one filter to Q 2

>>103951246
i haven't tested that but yeah the rest isn't great
moondropped cables are pretty bad and we're not even talking about the dsp, just the dac/amp part itself is noisy and full of audible artifacts

>>103951056
>>103951246
>>103951337
thanks anons, that sucks, guess I'll have to stick with dongles until good dsp cables appear

>>103951364
depends if you want dsp cables for the dsp or for the usb c
the latter has decent options available

Why did I buy this pos...

Discuss.

>>103951433
It has transjenic particles. Next thing they'll ask is to take the tranch vaccine.

>>103951433
Total Tanchjim Victory

what's the best iems money can buy that includes a box with an anime girl

>>103951716
psyche

>>103951716
Truthear Nova.

>>103951759
turdear = baldcel brand

why does my fiio dac dongle make loud static noise when left by itself for more than 7 hours

>>103952015
>>103951386
****'d

>>103952019
no, don't get me wrong, the dac itself is more than ok, I like it and the sound I get from it is great, this is just one minor gripe that I find pretty strange

I wanna mess around with EQ on an Android tablet. I am new to doing anything with EQ. Wavelet seemed like exactly what I wanted. I got the permissions working (DUMP and notifications) for the more advanced application tracking. With that working, it still cannot detect a chrome or chromium web browser. Is this possible using any method, app, or browser? It does detect stuff like Youtube or VLC just fine. Its a bit of a deal breaker for me and I can't find any information on if its possible to get working or not.

>>103952386
i think wavelet is the best in that department, so you won't find anything better for rootless devices

>>103952791
Tragic, and a little confusing honestly. It broadcasts it's audio stream via notifications like everything else but maybe it's not that simple. Ah well, maybe one day.

Bros I have absolutely no idea about IEMs or any of this audiobabble and graphs shit that you all post. My previous earbuds were a pair of second hand google pixel buds 2 that shit the bed, and I wanted something new.
I came across Tanchjim Mino Asano Tanch, it had a cute anime girl on the box and looked kinda cool too, so I dropped $48 on it.
Did I fuck up? Is it worth the money? Are these cheaper earbuds just copium? Please help.

>>103952874
No, all tws are shite anyway, you did well with your money

>>103926213
Why do IEMers get so butt blasted about superior Bluetooth?

>>103952958
Because bluetooth is trash.

>>103952958
They could've been better
>battery
>anc
>mic

>>103952958
>over ears
raughs.jpg

Redpill me on getting $100 IEC711 clone instead of cheapest mic with silicone tube to check for imbalance.
Also, what program do you use to get graphs (preferably Linux or android)?

>>103953163
For imbalance you can use whatever, but metal doesn't bend so there will be less variation between inserts. The program is REW, it's in java so should work on linux. On android you can use some app with RTA(real-time analyzer) while playing pink noise. RTA is trickier to use than sine sweep, for pure pink noise it will be constantly shifting so you'll need averaging, for periodic pink noise analyzer settings should perfectly match the noise generator. It's a limitation of Fourier transform.

>>103949598
>Zero Blue 2
>not just Zero 2
Stop making things even more confusing

>>103953233
Thanks anon. Now that I barely have any plans for getting new pos it seems like an overkill but maybe I will get one just in case. It's not like I will have to replace it every few months.

>>103953259
Blue is Harman, Red is Crin's taste

how different is the tangzu studio edition from tangzu waner sg
i really want the black one but are they even better than SG, i would've picked the jade SG for pure aesthetics but it's literally the exact same shit as black and white SG

>>103953682
studio edition has a different tuning - reportedly more neutral, less bass etc.

>>103953879
so would it be more convenient for rock music and decent with all vocals (SG underplays male vocals but female vocals sound amazing on it) or would that be the opposite

https://ideru.squig.link/
PEQdB IE and OE targets available here.
Create your own target at https://peqdb.com/
This is the future, sirs.

>>103953902
judging by graphs it will underplay male vocals even more

>>103954335
honestly don't know how to read that, anon

>>103953682
I preferred it to the original. Now my brother is enjoying it a lot, it's a great IEM for the money and the fact it comes with a 1.4m cable (as opposed to 1.2m) is a plus!

>>103954386
Magenta good green bad.

I haven't been here in 2 years, anything cool happened or is it still group jerk session over the same anime girls and squig lines?

>>103954394
in what regard

>>103954411
high y axis in the first half = good
low y axis in the second half = good

>>103954402
Fox IEM solved audio.

>>103954449
doesn't explain anything

>>103949810
those 2DD pos should have built-in resistors and switches to activate them and change the tuning, it'd eliminate the need of using the clunky impedance adapters

>>103954584
>>103952958
does bluetooth actually cause quality loss

>>103954605
Not really

>>103954605
I never really read how compression actually repacks data but I it seems logical that if you have 990kbps LDAC, sending anything with lower bitrate shouldn't be an issue. AAC, SBC, uncompressed wav files on the other hand...

>>103954632
so, this is simply solved by using wav or flac (the sane thing to do in all cases anyways) ?

>>103926213
When I saw your image I immediately recognized the red navigation rocker. My 20 year old Rio Nitrus has the same thing. My Rio Nitrus still works....... but, it requires proprietary software to load music onto it, so I've had the same music and audiobooks on it for over a decade. What I really like about it is that it has a 1.5GB harddrive in it. When you turn it on, it makes a small hum. It's like it's alive.

I'd be interested in selling it to someone who'd appreciate it. I don't use it anymore.

moondrop chu 2 on the official moondrop store doesn't ship to my country, it's the cheapest one too and there's no "choice" section for the product
what should i get in the same price and quality range while dodging the fucking customs (only way to do that is to have the aiexpress standard shipping)

>>103949132
Good afternoon sir, thank you for good advice sir. Another sir advised the same. I have done the needful and redeemed the dampers in the needful colors.

>>103931505
im thorking it rn

>>103954605
There usually different modes you can set with wireless phones. They control whether you will accept pauses or lag between video and audio when the connection isn't good. This can happen in environments where the BT network is very busy, for example. If you select the mode that focuses on uninterrupted play and avoiding lag, it the only way it can ensure that is reducing the amount of data transmitted.

>>103954584
It's not even convenient.

>>103954812
*phones = headphones or earbuds

>>103954721
Where do you live?

>>103954926
I feel like answering won't help since i order electronics pretty often from abroad with no issue as long as i choose certain carriers and that second of all they have other things listed that i'm not interested into on their page that can be shipped (there's no stock shortage or sold out header on the chu 2, just a can't be shipped to your location message)

>>103953139
>Sony xm5
Man, I wish we could get that kind of power in a smaller set of buds.

SAAAAAAAR only 25$ for new ear cannal shitters

>>103949810
>impedance at 1k 5.8 ohms
>just a little impedance already makes the pos utterly muddy
>most ppl buying it are new fags and gaymers wholl plug it into a mobo or a laptop with high OI
lmaoo cringy is a good troll

>>103954605
by the very unquestionable definition, if the codec is LOSSY, there is a quality LOSS
it's not a belief or a cablefags' cope, it's a fact
it does not help that almost all codecs are completely lossy and even if a codec is lossless, it's only up to a certain threshold, which means no lossless 384KHz 24bit music for bluetoothfags

>>103955856
>lossless 384KHz 24bit music for bluetoothfags
>xhe thinks eqfags here use bit perfect, know how set direct audio controls or switch from 48k PMC when using their goat $15 wired pos with cheapest dong
This is some new flavor of autism here.

>>103954632
that's not how this works, audio is always transcoded to whatever bt codec is used and the only truly lossless bt codec is aptx lossless and it's limited to 44.1kHz/16bit
granted the better bt codecs should be almost always audibly transparent, so it's much of a problem
bigger issue is the integrated electronics and anc, background hiss is sadly all too common

>>103955856
OH MY GOODNESS how will I hear the amazing triangle sound in the background while listening to my IEMs on the subway.

While we're on the topic of BT and TWS, the Tanchjim Mino is very solid in terms of sound quality and overall features. Still have to test the battery life more thoroughly.
Measurements and review coming soon, will have to check to see if I can still do the usual insertion depth measurements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLynGtgQVI&ab_channel=in-EarFetish

uuuh should i get the tanchjim one ?

>It is Worth --- $90
zeos innovates yet again with the most confusing, useless, and retarded rating scheme ever
on another note, tanchjim cannot stop winning with these latest release. kara was a bit middling back in the day but man they got back into their groove

>>103956835
get Tanchjim Bunny

>>103956901
where? we aint sea niggers

CKLVX D62 worth getting with main focus on vocals and res? Because fuck allrouders

>>103956925
probably cheaper options out there, but go ahead anon

>>103956911
wait for the release

>>103956901
>>103956962
i'm going back to university and need something before mid february
any other recommendation from 9 to 30$ at most

>>103957004
(preferably something with an L shape pin because i'm a retard who ends up ruining earphones from the bottom most of the time)

I had the TinHifi T2 for quite a while and liked them. They felt quite airy and gave distorted or overdriven guitars a good shriek. Bass wasn't very pronounced, but I'm not a bass boy anyway. It quickly makes music sound muddy and impenetrable to me. I lost the T2s, however. Do I just get them again or is there an upgrade at around 100 bucks?

>>103949166
The 'new' battery might be shit.

>>103957109
most things in the op and guides are much better than the t2, which is considered ancient fossilized dinoshit nowadays

any anons in here have the first revision cca cra's and EQ them to a harman-like preference curve? even better if you listen to metal or orchestral music.
i'm learning how to EQ and i just want something to sanity check against.

>>103957236
i do but not to harman
if you want to learn how to eq read the guide

>>103956962
>shilling something that you've never heard and it's not even available yet
this is so iemg

Anybody use the Fiio UTWS5? I'm having trouble with the app, can the EQ be set to persist? Also has trouble being paired to anything other than my phone.

Is there a way to add second order harmonic distortion on Android? I'm looking for something like this to use on my phone: https://distortaudio.org/pkharmonic.html

>>103957201
I know the T2s were considered "neutral" in terms of their response curve, but how much does that tell me in terms of how similar another pair of IEMs will sound? Will a a better IEM with a neutral profile give me that airy/shrieky sound that I liked, but just better?

>>103957430
dunno but if you're so keen... e1da 9038s/d dongles allow you to do that via the 9038tweak app

>>103957430
not that i know of, maybe something in neutron or rococo but afaik distortion dsp is not really popular
>>103957498
>I know the T2s were considered "neutral" in terms of their response curve
way back when, nowadays not really
bad bass response, fucked up ear gain, it's honestly a mess looking back at it
>but how much does that tell me in terms of how similar another pair of IEMs will sound?
there's honestly not much like it now
try autoeq/wavelet and it will change the frequence response to harmanIE. it's not a great FR target imo (too shouty and thin) but it is more similar to modern IEMs and should give you a better reference
>Will a a better IEM with a neutral profile give me that airy/shrieky sound that I liked, but just better?
depends on what you qualify as neutral, which is a lot more complicated than you think

>>103957430
Jamesdsp supports jsfx plugins from reaper, maybe there's some plugin specifically for harmonic distortion.

AVOID moondropped

>>103957904
>moondrops
fitting name
why are you complaining

>>103957904
i will never buy a metal housing iem. they make no sense if you live away from the equator.
>cold weather
>hmm yes sticking a freezing cold metal object in my ear
making them only usable underneath earmuffs with a bluetooth dongle thing.

>>103957904
None of this would happen if anodized CNC aluminum was used instead of painted die-cast pot metal.
But that would add a few dollars of cost per set so it was unacceptable.

>>103957904
Moondrop has really fallen off these days. Instead of doing a proper variations refresh they decide to fuck with the shell of the Meteor to accommodate a meteorite disc as a marketing gimmick.

>>103958164
>meteoric iron
>red rust in a few years
Hope they coated it with some varnish or encased in airtight resin or something.

>>103953682
>>103954386
>don't know how to read that
There is information and resources in the OP rentry guides to learn including simplified beginner explanations.

>>103954721
>chu 2
>same price
There are several options listen in OP and rentry, like Tangzu Wan'er.

>>103957109
>TinHifi T2
Truthear Hexa is the main successor to T2-like sound. If you don't mind spending a bit more, TRI I3 MK3 goes for ~$130 on Aliexpress during sales (as long as you don't mind purple).

>>103957421
>another F**O victim
chat you can't make this up. it's unironically been a streak of consecutive threads

>>103958598
meh fiio stuff isn't all bad desu

>>103958583
>There is information and resources in the OP rentry guides to learn including simplified beginner explanations.
it's much simpler to give a concise explanation or just the opinion that was initially asked for than leading people to a 20000 words "guide", don't you think

>>103958673
HEY FUCKING MORON. IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO INTERPRET A FREQUENCY RESPONSE GRAPH. THERE IS NOT ANY MORE A CONCISE EXPLANATION I CAN PUT INTO WORDS THAN THE FUCKING BRIEF EXPLANATIONS AND POP-UP TUTORIAL ON SQUIIG.LINK. IF YOU CAN'T EVEN FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT, THEN CLEARLY IT WOULD BE FUCKING HOPELESS FOR ME TO IMPART UPON YOU THE FOUNDATIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO BEGIN TO EVEN GRASP THE CONCEPT OF FREQUENCY RESPONSE. READ YOU LAZY FUCKING MORON. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT "SIMPLIFIED BEGINNER EXPLANATION." IMPLIES? YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE FUCKING EQ GUIDE FUCKING MORON. IT LISTS RIGHT THERE WHERE TO GO / WHAT TO READ IF YOU WANT THE FUCKING SHORTER EXPLANATION. IT'S. THERE. READ. IT. FUCKING. MORON.

>>103958764
just say if it's better or worse, it can't be any harder than fancy graphs can it
last time i cared about wave functions was in senior highschool, dipshit

>>103958777
how could i answer what is better or worse? you would make that determination if you had the products to compare.
this is like asking me, to tell you, what is the better ice cream flavor, car to drive, pants to wear, etc.
you that fucking stupid and incompetent you can't make decisions for yourself and you're going to listen to a random opinion from the internet?
sg is better

>>103958789
i can't listen to a wave function graph, you can't either
you know what we can both listen to ? yeah fucking music through earphones, that's why asking people will always be tenfolds better
>but muh graph is le objective standard whatever
meaningles
>sg is better
thanks

what earbud has the best FR?
i have jaw problems that make wearing any iem's painful to wear longer than an hour. and headphones mess up my hair all day.

>>103958873
moondrop block

>>103958880
do they sound good ?

dumbfuck anons not understanding that lazy infantile dumbfuck tourists are essential for /iemg/'s survival
without them this place is a shithole desert with the occasional transjeet and turdear shill waltzing around

>>103958880
based even if i find a better FR i've been looking for a tws earbud that doesn't cost an arm and leg for shit like audiobooks.

>>103958888
>rando poorfag redeeming chu2/wanker/zero2
bro they are just the /headposg/ equivalent of
>do u guise have a rec for wireless gayming headpos under $50
in other words, useless garbage

>>103958887
yes, they are the earbuds with the best FR, which you asked for.

all eartips are uncomfortable af

>>103958926
and yet without this useless garbage /iemg/ wouldn't have survived this long

>>103958938
How many have you tried?

>>103958943
all of them

>>103958832
>i can't listen to a wave function graph
Skill issue.

>>103958962
>>103958963
Get more tips. I can wear IEMs for 18 hours. No excuse.

>>103958983
i can fuck your mom with no tips for 26 hours, ear tips shouldn't be this shit. No excuse.

>>103958994
Only 26? Pathetic.

>>103958873
Buds don't have a FR. Get the cheapest and EQ by ear.
>>103958887
It's dogshit.

>>103958777
trips of truth.
>>103958888
Trips of Higher Truth.

>>103958888
/iemg/ being a revolving door of newfags makes it difficult to discuss non-$20 pos.

also the perpetual cycle of newfags (who heard/owned less than 10 iems) recommending zero:reds/hexa to tourists doesnt exactly make for an engaging discussion

>>103958938
Which IEM? The IEM will make a way bigger difference in comfort.
I can throw a bunch of tips on more comfortable IEM, but no tip will make huge IEM like the Blessings or Nova comfortable for me.
In general i always go for FiiO HS18

>>103958888
The opposite. Newfags that don't know what an IEM is went to hpg and killed it. This thread is powered by raw autism.

>>103959077
>>103959073
not my heckin' circlerjerk nooooo how can i feel superior if normal people come here to ask questions or discuss as well

>>103959138
Bring bullying back.

Here's a bud graphed on a legit rig
https://www.0db.co.kr/REVIEW_0DB/4947153
Will have the same variation as >>103959016 but might be a more reliable starting point.

are the tangzu eartips comfortable?

>>103958938
>>103959076
sometimes it's the cables fault. no tips worked for me with the s12 pro until i changed cables. the stock one's ear guides were curved weird (i know i can remove the plastic or heat them to reshape)

>>103959276
You get 3-4 different tips to change if you don't like the built-in ones

>>103959276
bretty gud, but end of the day it's a wholly subjective preference thing. i have them but use several others more often

>>103959138
I try to help whenever possible, but it's hard to not feel jaded sometimes when I'd like to know how certain pos (like the Nostalgia Tesseract) sounds like but I know Imma get zero (you)s if I posted that question /here/.

>>103959261
So this is the power of earbuds...

>>103959387
at least your earussy isnt permanently stuffed whilst you use them

>>103960342
Just don't use etymodicks bro.

Bought FiiO HS20 for the collection.

Sonically it's similar to the Nicehck07 and BGVP "A07" tips, aka nothing special. Also the liquid silcone material is ultra flimsy compared to the coriers/rdm zone clear.

And yea I know ear anatomy is subjective, but the HS20 requires a really aggressive upward tilt on the IEM nozzle for me to get a proper seal. Meaning the Supermix 4 & Duality didn't work, only the Salnotes Zero (the small shell helps too).

Wouldn't recommend.

>>103960969
I don't like the really thin walled liquid silicones. Softears UC and Coreir are still my goats.

>>103961007
based same. the lack of tactile feedback in-ear cause the material is so thin makes it difficult to tell how well it fits

Finally finalized the EQ for my Aeolian Bells.

>>103961158
put deez aeolian balls in your ears lmao

>>103960969
>>103961007
>coreir
I thought the metal core was just a meme. An anon said it btw

Anyone know what IEM has similar tuning to Ety ER4SR for around the same price or lower?

>>103961270
It is a meme but when it does fit it's one of the most secure tips.

>>103961412
hard to say exactly since it depends on your insertion depth
yu9 fish is a replica and measures the same, or you can try the 7th acoustics proxima

>>103961484
I want the flat tuning of ER4SE minus the deep insertion

>>103961270
the metal core artificially extends the nozzle length of iems which definitely affects treble in a non-negligible way.

>>103961695
then why not eq?
apart from the proxima, maybe something like the ola? it's a rather rare tuning for regular pos

>>103926213
I have an iPhone with a Lightning port. Should I just use the Apple dongle, or are there better options for Lightning?

>>103962123
yes just apple dong. even if you pay for "better," DACs, they have bottlenecked voltage via the Lightning connection (compared to PD2.0 USB-C ports) anyways so you don't get full juice from them.

>>103962123
apple dongle is the best, go for it

>>103953970
cool nobass targets
thanks shartman