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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, mental illness
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 Steel Legend, X870 Tomahawk, X870E NOVA (be advised: B850 boards inbound)
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6800CL34 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN580
Mid range: 990 EVO Plus, SN7100
Premium: 990 PRO, T500, SN850X
Workstation: Rocket 5, T705 (be advised: Samsung+WD gen5 drives inbound)
>GPU
1080p: RTX 5070, RX 9070 (be advised: new budget cards inbound)
1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070XT
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT Pro (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, mental illness
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Phanteks T30-120, Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G4E, MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI G274QPX, ASUS XG27AQDMG, Alienware AW2725DF
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, MSI MAG 321UPX, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8, ASUS PG32UCDM/P
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
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Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)22:55:07 No.103925628
I have the IM01 Pro and I plan to position the PSU (seasonic vertex gx-750) to intake air from the inside instead of the front mesh
ATX PSUs are still designed to intake using hot internal air right? Just works out better because of the how the mobo cables would be farther from the GPU that way
ATX PSUs are still designed to intake using hot internal air right? Just works out better because of the how the mobo cables would be farther from the GPU that way
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:03:50 No.103925674
>>103925628
this case seems like it is designed with front intake in mind, but yes your psu can intake from inside the case just fine
normally this would be less of a problem on a larger case, but if you have decent airflow and thermals apart from this it should be fine
PSUs don't generate as much heat as other components
this case seems like it is designed with front intake in mind, but yes your psu can intake from inside the case just fine
normally this would be less of a problem on a larger case, but if you have decent airflow and thermals apart from this it should be fine
PSUs don't generate as much heat as other components
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:04:36 No.103925679
>>103925628
It's fine
Unless something has changed recently all PSUs should still be fine with 50C intake
It's fine
Unless something has changed recently all PSUs should still be fine with 50C intake
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:13:21 No.103925734
>>103925628
your pc will blow up
your pc will blow up
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:15:50 No.103925755
>>103925674
yeah i mean i'll prob reuse my older GPU until new consoles come then ill get a new GPU just so console plebs will always be weaker than my build
having mobo power cable farther would probably give me like 20mm more compatibiltiy for GPU length (case says up to max 355mm which will fit basically all GPUs, but of course that will change if i have to position my PSU lower to fit an extra exhaust fan at the top)
yeah i mean i'll prob reuse my older GPU until new consoles come then ill get a new GPU just so console plebs will always be weaker than my build
having mobo power cable farther would probably give me like 20mm more compatibiltiy for GPU length (case says up to max 355mm which will fit basically all GPUs, but of course that will change if i have to position my PSU lower to fit an extra exhaust fan at the top)
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:16:14 No.103925757
Originally purchased this 48gb for $230, is there any reason I shouldn't swap with 64gb? Performance, etc? I'm 100% sure I won't need 100% of the 48gb, but if it's there and if it's cheaper, why not go to 64gb?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:17:46 No.103925769
>>103925679
oh right now that you reminded me aobut 50c intake I see it in the specs sheet now. Actually yeah I'll still try to prioritize front intake if I can now that I see it
>Operating Temperature 0 - 50 °C (derating from 100 % to 80 % from 40 °C to 50 °C linearly)
so I'm guessing it can handle up to 50C (might actually get that hot because it'd be right in front of the GPU cut-through exhaust thing) but it gets less efficient
oh right now that you reminded me aobut 50c intake I see it in the specs sheet now. Actually yeah I'll still try to prioritize front intake if I can now that I see it
>Operating Temperature 0 - 50 °C (derating from 100 % to 80 % from 40 °C to 50 °C linearly)
so I'm guessing it can handle up to 50C (might actually get that hot because it'd be right in front of the GPU cut-through exhaust thing) but it gets less efficient
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:18:17 No.103925776
>>103925757
Oops didnt link,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHSGWR5N?ref_=ppx_hzod_title_dt_b_fed_asin_title_0_0&th=1
Oops didnt link,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHSGWR5
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:18:54 No.103925780
>>103925757
64gb is double sided ram that runs hotter and cant OC as far but you get double the memory ranks and better perf at the same clocks as 16gb/24gb sticks
64gb is double sided ram that runs hotter and cant OC as far but you get double the memory ranks and better perf at the same clocks as 16gb/24gb sticks
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:19:00 No.103925781
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:22:30 No.103925803
>>103925757
>>103925780
at "AMD sweet spot" speeds it's six of one half a dozen of the other, though, isn't it?
might as well go 2x32 if you're going above 2x16 with the pricing on 2x24 being what it is
>>103925780
at "AMD sweet spot" speeds it's six of one half a dozen of the other, though, isn't it?
might as well go 2x32 if you're going above 2x16 with the pricing on 2x24 being what it is
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:22:50 No.103925809
>>103925780
>64gb is double sided ram that runs hotter and cant OC as far but you get double the memory ranks and better perf at the same clocks as 16gb/24gb sticks
I was wondering why most of them were 5600-6000
>64gb is double sided ram that runs hotter and cant OC as far but you get double the memory ranks and better perf at the same clocks as 16gb/24gb sticks
I was wondering why most of them were 5600-6000
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:24:38 No.103925826
>>103925781
this is a thread about pc building and dolls are not computer hardware
this is a thread about pc building and dolls are not computer hardware
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:25:34 No.103925832
What time does the schizo guy sleep on these threads?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:27:34 No.103925845
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:27:39 No.103925846
>>103925832
He never does, I've been here at like 2am and seen his posts.
>>103925757
For me it's the Trident Z5 Royal, too bad they only have the gold ones in 32gb for AMD systems.
He never does, I've been here at like 2am and seen his posts.
>>103925757
For me it's the Trident Z5 Royal, too bad they only have the gold ones in 32gb for AMD systems.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:34:05 No.103925879
>>103925846
is there a diff in reliability or performance with EXPO vs XMP? is EXPO for AMD? I never even heard of EXPO until recently it's always been XMP for me since I had Intel builds.
If a memory module is on the QVL list for a board but it's xmp would that cause issues for an AMD cpu?
is there a diff in reliability or performance with EXPO vs XMP? is EXPO for AMD? I never even heard of EXPO until recently it's always been XMP for me since I had Intel builds.
If a memory module is on the QVL list for a board but it's xmp would that cause issues for an AMD cpu?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:36:10 No.103925890
>>103925879
EXPO is AMDs version of xmp, you can use xmp ram with AMD CPUs but there's a chance the default profile doesn't work correctly and you might have to put in the timings manually. I will say however that I know people in here who have used xmp ram with ryaem and have had zero problems.
EXPO is AMDs version of xmp, you can use xmp ram with AMD CPUs but there's a chance the default profile doesn't work correctly and you might have to put in the timings manually. I will say however that I know people in here who have used xmp ram with ryaem and have had zero problems.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:46:54 No.103925948
>>103925832
the mass reply schizo, or the tranny OP schizo?
the mass reply schizo, or the tranny OP schizo?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:48:32 No.103925955
>>103925826
That's what they used to say about RGB and tempered glass too but now they're considered pc hardware
That's what they used to say about RGB and tempered glass too but now they're considered pc hardware
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:49:42 No.103925959
>>103925948
The latter is a man of culture
The latter is a man of culture
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:51:26 No.103925969
>>103925879
Xmp doesn't always work (see: Corsair xmp on MSI boards) while expo always works on an AMD CPU
Xmp doesn't always work (see: Corsair xmp on MSI boards) while expo always works on an AMD CPU
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:52:56 No.103925974
I know this is a shot in the dark but does anyone have a website which compares different CPUs, their hashrate, and price with vendors? I'm looking into building a mining rig (mostly for monero mining) but it's very time consuming doing research with so many vendors; looking to quickly compare before finalizing any purchases I make. Budget is around 2k, but could go higher.
Note electricity isn't a big concern for me, so I'm fine with equipment that consumes a lot.
Note electricity isn't a big concern for me, so I'm fine with equipment that consumes a lot.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:53:24 No.103925976
It actually works. I'm honestly fucking surprised. I had to majiggle some stuff and found out the front panel connection was in all the way. It was a pain moving out the gpu just so I can get access to the mobo. And the cables ugh...
But we in business. Now time to install Windows 10 ltsc.
But we in business. Now time to install Windows 10 ltsc.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:55:38 No.103925988
>>103925955
This. Get in with the time gramp
This. Get in with the time gramp
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:55:44 No.103925989
>>103925948
the mass reply guy is wild man
the mass reply guy is wild man
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:56:49 No.103925997
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:57:01 No.103926000
>>103925781
You don’t look like that troon
You don’t look like that troon
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:57:31 No.103926003
>second DoA 9800X3D arrived
>I've spent thousands on a full build that has been sitting there for months
I refuse to believe they don't specifically send bad bins to poorer countries. Next time I'm getting a fucking prebuilt just to avoid this.
>I've spent thousands on a full build that has been sitting there for months
I refuse to believe they don't specifically send bad bins to poorer countries. Next time I'm getting a fucking prebuilt just to avoid this.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:57:51 No.103926007
>>103925976
Its always such a relief when after messing around for hours you turn it on and it just works, congrats anon.
Its always such a relief when after messing around for hours you turn it on and it just works, congrats anon.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:58:32 No.103926014
>>103926003
wtf? you sure its the cpu and not the board or ram?
wtf? you sure its the cpu and not the board or ram?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)23:59:33 No.103926017
>>103926003
there's no way you got 2 bad CPUs, you're just bad
there's no way you got 2 bad CPUs, you're just bad
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:00:04 No.103926019
>>103926007
gotta thank the anon who recommended this build. Fortunately all the parts were at micro center so was able to build in one day. I'm pleasantly surprised it worked. It so tight in there, I thought something would fuck up. Buying two noctua fans to put in the top part and they should be here tomorrow.
gotta thank the anon who recommended this build. Fortunately all the parts were at micro center so was able to build in one day. I'm pleasantly surprised it worked. It so tight in there, I thought something would fuck up. Buying two noctua fans to put in the top part and they should be here tomorrow.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:03:42 No.103926032
>>103926003
>I refuse to believe they don't specifically send bad bins to poorer countries
Post your wall socket right now.
>I refuse to believe they don't specifically send bad bins to poorer countries
Post your wall socket right now.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:04:35 No.103926039
>>103926014
>>103926014
I've tested them both at work and at a local shop. Also I imagine the stores tested them too before refunding (no giants here like Amazon who can afford not to care).
>>103926014
I've tested them both at work and at a local shop. Also I imagine the stores tested them too before refunding (no giants here like Amazon who can afford not to care).
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:05:51 No.103926047
>>103925976
Congrats man, that better not be your pube.
Congrats man, that better not be your pube.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:08:03 No.103926054
>>103926032
I'm on a train right now (morning commute) but this is the kind of plug used here.
I'm on a train right now (morning commute) but this is the kind of plug used here.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:08:26 No.103926059
>>103926047
it's those squiggly ties. and no my pubes are curlier than that
it's those squiggly ties. and no my pubes are curlier than that
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:10:16 No.103926071
>>103925826
This is an anime website. Computer hardware are secondary
This is an anime website. Computer hardware are secondary
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:11:52 No.103926076
>>103925959
No you're not, and even if you were, autogynephilia is not "culture."
No you're not, and even if you were, autogynephilia is not "culture."
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:16:58 No.103926107
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:17:19 No.103926110
I gotta get a UPS for my PC, as I've discovered in my new place that the power can go out randomly for a few minutes in high winds, and not just because of storms/lightning.
Gonna have to be able to keep ~1200w (monitors + 850w PC, so some leeway) going for a few minutes so I can shut things down. I had one a long time ago but the batteries inflated and then the unit failed.
I already have one for my NAS, is there anything specific to PC's that would mean I can't just get a bigger version of the one I have with my NAS?
HOLY FUCK THESE NEW CAPTCHAS ARE SHIT FUCK SAKES
Gonna have to be able to keep ~1200w (monitors + 850w PC, so some leeway) going for a few minutes so I can shut things down. I had one a long time ago but the batteries inflated and then the unit failed.
I already have one for my NAS, is there anything specific to PC's that would mean I can't just get a bigger version of the one I have with my NAS?
HOLY FUCK THESE NEW CAPTCHAS ARE SHIT FUCK SAKES
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:20:49 No.103926130
>>103925781
AMD shill OP, no wonder
AMD shill OP, no wonder
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:22:23 No.103926139
>>103926107
You build a pc to play with digital toys anyways. I can’t see why getting physical ones are any different
You build a pc to play with digital toys anyways. I can’t see why getting physical ones are any different
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:24:22 No.103926150
>>103926003
get a 14900k and call it a day.
get a 14900k and call it a day.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:25:40 No.103926157
>>103926130
>AMD shill OP
>4K: 0 AMD cards
>Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
yeah, I'm just not seeing it, chief
>AMD shill OP
>4K: 0 AMD cards
>Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
yeah, I'm just not seeing it, chief
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:27:00 No.103926166
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:27:49 No.103926179
>>103926130
Amd hasn’t announced jack shit and AMDelusionals already putting it into op is hilarious to me
Amd hasn’t announced jack shit and AMDelusionals already putting it into op is hilarious to me
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:30:22 No.103926197
>>103926157
For starters 9060xt is competing against a 5070 and a 5070 having 12gb meant it’s a 1440p tier card
For starters 9060xt is competing against a 5070 and a 5070 having 12gb meant it’s a 1440p tier card
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:31:03 No.103926201
>>103926179
you can't buy any of the nvidia cards either, but why list products whose stock is drying up and are peaking in price over the currently releasing generation?
are we really recommending that you go out and spend $3k on a 4090 instead of wait 2 weeks for a 5090?
you can't buy any of the nvidia cards either, but why list products whose stock is drying up and are peaking in price over the currently releasing generation?
are we really recommending that you go out and spend $3k on a 4090 instead of wait 2 weeks for a 5090?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:36:44 No.103926232
>>103926197
>recommending 12GB for 1440p in current year
>with even more aislop features to eat up VRAM
I don't think so, but it's kind of just a placeholder anyway until we actually get benchmarks and the whole product stack releases
>recommending 12GB for 1440p in current year
>with even more aislop features to eat up VRAM
I don't think so, but it's kind of just a placeholder anyway until we actually get benchmarks and the whole product stack releases
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:40:47 No.103926256
>>103926232
>making some random shit up about how 12gb isn’t enough for 1440p
Yep you just outed yourself as an amd shill. 12gb is enough for max/ultra in 1440p. You just want to put 9070xt next to 5070 ti to fill your delusion thinking amd can can even come close
>making some random shit up about how 12gb isn’t enough for 1440p
Yep you just outed yourself as an amd shill. 12gb is enough for max/ultra in 1440p. You just want to put 9070xt next to 5070 ti to fill your delusion thinking amd can can even come close
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:40:49 No.103926258
>5070
>12gb vram
>in 2025
>DoA
>5080
>literally half or less the fuckin die of 5090
>1200 price after aftermarket builders touch it
>DoA
>9070XT
>literally bodies the 5070
>$499/599 price point
>12gb vram
>in 2025
>DoA
>5080
>literally half or less the fuckin die of 5090
>1200 price after aftermarket builders touch it
>DoA
>9070XT
>literally bodies the 5070
>$499/599 price point
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:45:54 No.103926289
>>103926256
>getting into heated arguments about cards that don't even have benchmarks yet
>assuming anyone thinks they are equal performance
The 5080 and 5090 are in the same tier, too.
do fanboys really?
>getting into heated arguments about cards that don't even have benchmarks yet
>assuming anyone thinks they are equal performance
The 5080 and 5090 are in the same tier, too.
do fanboys really?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:47:43 No.103926305
If the 14700K is recommended for workstation PCs, so should the 7900X.
7900X is more appropriate for new system builds, 14700K limited to drop-in upgrades.
7900X is more appropriate for new system builds, 14700K limited to drop-in upgrades.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:50:45 No.103926323
>>103925598
I fixed the op
>GPU
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
8K: RTX 5090
4K: RTX 5080, 5070 TI
1440p: 5070
Poorfags: RDOA4
I fixed the op
>GPU
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
8K: RTX 5090
4K: RTX 5080, 5070 TI
1440p: 5070
Poorfags: RDOA4
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:51:39 No.103926327
>mfw normalfags scream about VRAM amounts that don't align with bus width constraints and available memory chip sizes
I wish people would actually do some research before complaining about shit
I wish people would actually do some research before complaining about shit
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:54:24 No.103926344
>>103926258
Don't forget 5080 is worse than 4090, an 80 class card worse than previous gen flagshi
Don't forget 5080 is worse than 4090, an 80 class card worse than previous gen flagshi
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:55:32 No.103926352
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:56:14 No.103926356
>>103926323
i'd rather be a rdoa4 poorfag than a 8k scammedfag
i'd rather be a rdoa4 poorfag than a 8k scammedfag
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:56:33 No.103926357
>>103926323
That kinda make sense. 5090 has a massive 32gb so 8K might work well. Both 5080 and 5070ti has the same vram of 16gb gddr7. And 5070 is more than enough for 1440
That kinda make sense. 5090 has a massive 32gb so 8K might work well. Both 5080 and 5070ti has the same vram of 16gb gddr7. And 5070 is more than enough for 1440
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:57:07 No.103926362
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:58:56 No.103926382
>>103926357
>>103926323
you're going to be disappointed when you realize that a 5070 will still have 120-150 fps in most games at 1440 if you think it's a 1440 card.... just saying. From a guy that's done this a while.
>>103926323
you're going to be disappointed when you realize that a 5070 will still have 120-150 fps in most games at 1440 if you think it's a 1440 card.... just saying. From a guy that's done this a while.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:00:17 No.103926399
>>103926327
maybe if they sold a card with proper fucking bus widths we could have more vram then faggot.... yes we know you can't make a 20 gb for higher class or 16 gb for the 5070 due to the design. Reddit take.
maybe if they sold a card with proper fucking bus widths we could have more vram then faggot.... yes we know you can't make a 20 gb for higher class or 16 gb for the 5070 due to the design. Reddit take.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:01:19 No.103926408
>>103926323
>8K not a meme resolution
>5090 can handle it without 75% fake frames, smearing, latency, and hallucinations
just give nvidia your account number already
>8K not a meme resolution
>5090 can handle it without 75% fake frames, smearing, latency, and hallucinations
just give nvidia your account number already
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:01:57 No.103926410
>>103926399
The actual reddit take is exactly claiming they can make a 20GB card on a 256-bit bus width and are just holding out instead
The actual reddit take is exactly claiming they can make a 20GB card on a 256-bit bus width and are just holding out instead
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:03:54 No.103926426
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:04:30 No.103926430
I hate that I can't say DLSS without the frame gen shit being attached to it.
I just want an AA filter that works really well and improved performance by reconstructing from lower resolutions with better image quality than Native in most scenarios, not fucking fake frame bullshit that looks like interpolated garbage on a smooth move TV setting.
I just want an AA filter that works really well and improved performance by reconstructing from lower resolutions with better image quality than Native in most scenarios, not fucking fake frame bullshit that looks like interpolated garbage on a smooth move TV setting.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:06:05 No.103926440
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:07:25 No.103926451
>>103926430
Just say DLSS Super Resolution or upscaling
Just say DLSS Super Resolution or upscaling
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:08:04 No.103926456
>>103926408
Dlss reduces latency. Meanwhile Fsr adds latency.
Dlss reduces latency. Meanwhile Fsr adds latency.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:08:19 No.103926459
>>103926430
I mean that's nvidia's own fault. They marketed it so heavily, and barely mention AA.
I mean that's nvidia's own fault. They marketed it so heavily, and barely mention AA.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:13:26 No.103926494
>>103926440
>frame generation will reduce latency
I bet you believe that the 5070 will have 4090 performance, too.
>frame generation will reduce latency
I bet you believe that the 5070 will have 4090 performance, too.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:14:34 No.103926504
>>103926456
Just ignore the amd shill. All the things he complained about for dlss are far worse on amd platform.
> smearing, latency, and hallucinations
He’s clearly projecting because all those are amd fsr issues he had with his amd gpu
Just ignore the amd shill. All the things he complained about for dlss are far worse on amd platform.
> smearing, latency, and hallucinations
He’s clearly projecting because all those are amd fsr issues he had with his amd gpu
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:18:14 No.103926527
3 120mm or 2 140mm case fans?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:19:23 No.103926537
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:20:05 No.103926545
>>103926362
Its simple, the rdoa4 "poorfag" spent $1.2-1.5k less on his gpu than the 5090 "richfag"
Its simple, the rdoa4 "poorfag" spent $1.2-1.5k less on his gpu than the 5090 "richfag"
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:20:33 No.103926548
>>103926527
depends on the case and your actual setup, but personally I'd probably go with 2 140s
depends on the case and your actual setup, but personally I'd probably go with 2 140s
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:20:41 No.103926551
>>103926527
usually 3x120, some cases that support both would have the 140 partially obstructed anyway
usually 3x120, some cases that support both would have the 140 partially obstructed anyway
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:21:25 No.103926557
>>103926527
The one that gives you more fin surface area
The one that gives you more fin surface area
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:24:14 No.103926576
>More cores
>more vram
>faster vram
>same price
Thank you Nvidia. I will now buy a 5090
>more vram
>faster vram
>same price
Thank you Nvidia. I will now buy a 5090
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:26:18 No.103926591
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:27:44 No.103926597
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:35:06 No.103926653
Saw some reviews say a Montech AIR 903's front panel connector's fried their motherboard twice. Can a case's front panel connector really be at fault for that or was the error somewhere else? Just trying to figure out my case purchase.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:41:38 No.103926711
>>103926653
Sounds sus since the front panel doesn't generate electricity to fry anything with, but fractal pop air can be had for similar price with no such issues.
Sounds sus since the front panel doesn't generate electricity to fry anything with, but fractal pop air can be had for similar price with no such issues.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:43:33 No.103926727
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:44:49 No.103926747
>>103926576
GDDR7 and only 20% uplift, it's like they simply refreshed ada cores
5090 going tob e a monser, sure, it got a ton of cores, but rest of the line looks terrible
GDDR7 and only 20% uplift, it's like they simply refreshed ada cores
5090 going tob e a monser, sure, it got a ton of cores, but rest of the line looks terrible
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:47:33 No.103926779
what happened to the intel 12xxx series having a lot of issues?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:47:46 No.103926781
Someone asked me if I could build a VR capable computer for $670 USD using new parts, I told them no but I'm wondering if it's actually feasible?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:47:53 No.103926784
>>103926747
Its a 13900k style refresh
Same underlying uarch but they are releasing a bigger SoC with more cores that will use a lot more power than the previous flagship SoC
The only good thing out of it is the bigger memory buffer for AI stuff
Its a 13900k style refresh
Same underlying uarch but they are releasing a bigger SoC with more cores that will use a lot more power than the previous flagship SoC
The only good thing out of it is the bigger memory buffer for AI stuff
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:48:21 No.103926793
>>103926576
>30% performance increase
>28% power increase
>25% price increase
NVIDIA WON! THANK YOU NVIDIA!
>30% performance increase
>28% power increase
>25% price increase
NVIDIA WON! THANK YOU NVIDIA!
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:49:07 No.103926801
>>103926781
Its not thanks to ever increasing gpu prices.
Its not thanks to ever increasing gpu prices.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:49:37 No.103926803
>>103926779
Those were just scheduling issues from software not being ready for ecores. Fixed a long time ago, not so long after release.
Those were just scheduling issues from software not being ready for ecores. Fixed a long time ago, not so long after release.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:50:58 No.103926814
>>103926801
I didn't think so either but I'm double guessing myself, I told them they'd to at minimum double their budget if they want a semi-decent VR experience, and that even that would just be entry level.
I didn't think so either but I'm double guessing myself, I told them they'd to at minimum double their budget if they want a semi-decent VR experience, and that even that would just be entry level.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:52:04 No.103926822
>>103926814
depends what kind of VR, they can use some trash for chat rooms I think
depends what kind of VR, they can use some trash for chat rooms I think
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:52:53 No.103926825
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:58:05 No.103926852
>5090D
Who cares?
Who cares?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:58:27 No.103926854
>>103926825
I assume the 5090D is a developer version.
I assume the 5090D is a developer version.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:59:20 No.103926857
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:03:35 No.103926882
>>103926854
China exclusive version with gimped AI capabilities to comply with government bans.
China exclusive version with gimped AI capabilities to comply with government bans.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:04:15 No.103926886
>>103926854
you assume wrong
you assume wrong
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:06:55 No.103926903
>>103926825
>less than 20% increase
Grimm, we were all theorizing around 30%, at 20% I'm now worried about the actual performance increase of the 5080 and the 5070s.
>less than 20% increase
Grimm, we were all theorizing around 30%, at 20% I'm now worried about the actual performance increase of the 5080 and the 5070s.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:07:51 No.103926910
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:09:42 No.103926918
Feels good not caring about gen-over-gen improvements because I'm jumping 2 gens and a product tier up
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:12:35 No.103926927
>>103926918
3060 to 5070 will be a sweet upgrade bro.
3060 to 5070 will be a sweet upgrade bro.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:13:41 No.103926930
>>103926927
3070 to 5080 thoughbeit
3070 to 5080 thoughbeit
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:15:00 No.103926938
>>103926930
are you upgrading cpu too?
are you upgrading cpu too?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:15:34 No.103926945
>>103926938
5600 to 9800X3D
5600 to 9800X3D
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:15:39 No.103926946
>>103926930
Even better.
Even better.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:17:26 No.103926957
>>103926918
>>103926930
>>103926945
I went from 8700k + 2070 to 9800x3d and I'll probably get a 5080
feels good man
>>103926930
>>103926945
I went from 8700k + 2070 to 9800x3d and I'll probably get a 5080
feels good man
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:28:36 No.103927010
God damn the USD/CAD exchange rate fucking sucks
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:38:35 No.103927052
Anyone know of a way to get rid of the annoying humming from the P12/P14 fans?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:39:41 No.103927059
>>103927052
use a different rpm
use a different rpm
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:41:55 No.103927076
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)02:45:09 No.103927098
>>103927052
get Noctuas
get Noctuas
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:10:28 No.103927237
>fix this one explorer indexing infinite loop
>CPU temp drops with 20
fuck this jeet of an OS, i was about to buy a new cooler
>CPU temp drops with 20
fuck this jeet of an OS, i was about to buy a new cooler
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:19:33 No.103927309
>>103927237
install Gentoo
install Gentoo
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:21:13 No.103927319
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:25:21 No.103927337
>>103927319
AMDeez nuts are being slimy kikes again and waiting for Nvidia to lift the review embargo so they can look at the third-party benchmarks and price their own cards as high as they assume they can (~$50 below their GeGorce rastermatch as usual). They never learn.
AMDeez nuts are being slimy kikes again and waiting for Nvidia to lift the review embargo so they can look at the third-party benchmarks and price their own cards as high as they assume they can (~$50 below their GeGorce rastermatch as usual). They never learn.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:27:41 No.103927356
>>103927319
They found out that rtx50 is garbage and are in a dilemma of whether to slaughter Nvidia at half the price or megajew people at Nvidia pricing -10% as usual so I doubt we'll see any news until Nvidia shows their hands first (24th 5090 review or 29th 5080 review)
They found out that rtx50 is garbage and are in a dilemma of whether to slaughter Nvidia at half the price or megajew people at Nvidia pricing -10% as usual so I doubt we'll see any news until Nvidia shows their hands first (24th 5090 review or 29th 5080 review)
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:29:06 No.103927360
>>103927356
>or megajew people at Nvidia pricing -10%
that would kill another generation, they either take market by storm or lose another 5% of market share.
>or megajew people at Nvidia pricing -10%
that would kill another generation, they either take market by storm or lose another 5% of market share.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:33:08 No.103927377
>>103927360
never underestimate AMDs ability to eternally make the same mistake
never underestimate AMDs ability to eternally make the same mistake
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:35:12 No.103927387
>>103927360
The thing is that they haven't ordered enough wafers to supply 25% or even 40% of the dGPU market since vega or even r9 300s. So their choice is between having 10% market share at 65% profile or having 20% market share at 30% profit
The thing is that they haven't ordered enough wafers to supply 25% or even 40% of the dGPU market since vega or even r9 300s. So their choice is between having 10% market share at 65% profile or having 20% market share at 30% profit
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:50:20 No.103927451
Building a new workstation with a 9700x or 9900x
Was aiming for 2x32gb 6000 cl30 but now contemplating getting 2x48gb 5600 cl40 or cl46 for the same price
Timing vs more ram? I read everywhere 6000cl30 is the sweet spot for ryzen 9000 but thats always about gaming
Was aiming for 2x32gb 6000 cl30 but now contemplating getting 2x48gb 5600 cl40 or cl46 for the same price
Timing vs more ram? I read everywhere 6000cl30 is the sweet spot for ryzen 9000 but thats always about gaming
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:52:45 No.103927467
>i5 2500k
>gtx580 lightning
Yep, that was a great combo.
Yet, 15 years have passed, time to build my new pc.
>gtx580 lightning
Yep, that was a great combo.
Yet, 15 years have passed, time to build my new pc.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:55:02 No.103927482
>>103927451
it's about cpu performance, but most people buying ryzen 9000 are buying them for gaming, and cpu performance matters to gaymers, as well
if you need more you need more, but if you can get by without bottlenecking on 64GB you will benefit from higher speeds
it's about cpu performance, but most people buying ryzen 9000 are buying them for gaming, and cpu performance matters to gaymers, as well
if you need more you need more, but if you can get by without bottlenecking on 64GB you will benefit from higher speeds
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:56:41 No.103927491
Against my better judgement I ordered 32" oled monitor to replace my 34" ultrawide 2k
I hope I don't have to get another vertical monitor for just browsing website.
Or also upgrading GPU from 3080ti to 50xx to play 4k.
Or CPU upgrade from 5800x3d so no bottleneck.
Or bigger table for 2nd monitor.
Fuck.
I hope I don't have to get another vertical monitor for just browsing website.
Or also upgrading GPU from 3080ti to 50xx to play 4k.
Or CPU upgrade from 5800x3d so no bottleneck.
Or bigger table for 2nd monitor.
Fuck.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:00:22 No.103927516
>>103927451
If you've got more RAM than enough, then the extra won't really do anything for performance. If you don't have enough, then having enough is more important by far than any speed spec. So in other words, if 64GB is more than you'll ever actually use, it's better to get faster RAM. If 64GB is not enough but 96GB is, then get 96GB no matter what because running out of RAM is far worse.
If you've got more RAM than enough, then the extra won't really do anything for performance. If you don't have enough, then having enough is more important by far than any speed spec. So in other words, if 64GB is more than you'll ever actually use, it's better to get faster RAM. If 64GB is not enough but 96GB is, then get 96GB no matter what because running out of RAM is far worse.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:08:44 No.103927561
>>103926576
I'm pairing it with my OC'd 14900k. maxed out ultra quality with glorious DLSS and intel's legendary reliability.
I'm pairing it with my OC'd 14900k. maxed out ultra quality with glorious DLSS and intel's legendary reliability.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:09:19 No.103927566
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:11:27 No.103927576
>>103926825
Making a 5090D seems dumb to me when they could just sell 5090's in South Korea or the Phillpines or Taiwan instead and the Chinese could import them.
Making a 5090D seems dumb to me when they could just sell 5090's in South Korea or the Phillpines or Taiwan instead and the Chinese could import them.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:11:56 No.103927581
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:14:04 No.103927599
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:15:15 No.103927609
>>103927576
The government policy to ban chips about 4880TFlops is fucking dumb
Its only caused the black market to start stocking 4090s and extracted 4090 core/vram chips which resulted in scam (chip removed) 4090s for the rest of the world
The government policy to ban chips about 4880TFlops is fucking dumb
Its only caused the black market to start stocking 4090s and extracted 4090 core/vram chips which resulted in scam (chip removed) 4090s for the rest of the world
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:15:27 No.103927611
OP memed me into buying a Y70 it's so fucking big lol
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:15:37 No.103927616
>>103927581
if you don't know that you need more than 64GB I'm almost certain that you don't
if you don't know that you need more than 64GB I'm almost certain that you don't
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:16:16 No.103927619
>>103927609
above 4880TFlops*
above 4880TFlops*
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:20:26 No.103927646
>>103927611
>$220
>no fans
>needs like a dozen to compensate for front glass airflow nerf
>takes up half your desk
I'll never understand people who buy shit like this
>$220
>no fans
>needs like a dozen to compensate for front glass airflow nerf
>takes up half your desk
I'll never understand people who buy shit like this
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:20:26 No.103927647
I want to buy a new card right now
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:29:19 No.103927692
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:29:21 No.103927693
New gpus aren't worth buying
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:30:05 No.103927698
are the issues with intel 2.5g nics fixed now?
seems like realtek has issues too and i don't trust them
seems like realtek has issues too and i don't trust them
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:30:57 No.103927702
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:33:06 No.103927715
>>103927702
No. Its the Sanction-compliant version of the 5090 with gimped AI capabilities
4090D existed too but its only available in China and a handful of azn countries
No. Its the Sanction-compliant version of the 5090 with gimped AI capabilities
4090D existed too but its only available in China and a handful of azn countries
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:48:08 No.103927808
>>103927647
sorry, two week waiting list.
sorry, two week waiting list.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:01:50 No.103927888
Yo! Managed to score a 5700x on eBay for $98 recently through some patience. It got me curious about what people thought of the flood of scam listings for ultra-cheap 'X3Ds, the ones that came with the "used rtx" flood, like this one for example: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008361406602.html
A 5700x3d, supposedly. Many of these have QA posts calling them scams. But I saw people here are actually recommending them? Has anyone actually got them?
A 5700x3d, supposedly. Many of these have QA posts calling them scams. But I saw people here are actually recommending them? Has anyone actually got them?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:05:25 No.103927909
To that bro out there who cant bring himself to start that build, I want to say I feel you bro. I had my parts a week before christmas but only finally decided to build it this weekend. My heart broke when it sat dead on the first bootup attempt but, after a suggestion, I flashed the bios and now forced dumpster diving for the next month will actually pay off.
>TL;DR Just build it bro, I believe in you!
>TL;DR Just build it bro, I believe in you!
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:11:09 No.103927941
>>103927715
>>103927693
4090D was noticeably slower than the 4090 in gaming. Like on par with 7900XTX/4080Super. I wonder if it's same case.
>>103927693
4090D was noticeably slower than the 4090 in gaming. Like on par with 7900XTX/4080Super. I wonder if it's same case.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:13:26 No.103927958
>>103927941
It was only 5% slower than the standard 4090 which puts it at 20% faster than the 4080S
It was only 5% slower than the standard 4090 which puts it at 20% faster than the 4080S
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:17:35 No.103927990
>>103927958
>average 4090D 3DMark Time Spy Graphics Score: 34256
yeah so slower than OC'd 7900xtx or stock 4090.
>average 4090D 3DMark Time Spy Graphics Score: 34256
yeah so slower than OC'd 7900xtx or stock 4090.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:29:42 No.103928057
>>103927237
Oh yeah fuck Windows I had to disable TRIM automatically because it kept doing it daily despite me setting it weekly, causing it to spike my CPU for no reason.
Oh yeah fuck Windows I had to disable TRIM automatically because it kept doing it daily despite me setting it weekly, causing it to spike my CPU for no reason.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:47:16 No.103928175
>7900 XT dropped from 909€ to 799€
Why is AMD like this with EU
Why is AMD like this with EU
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:50:34 No.103928202
>>103925598
I have tried almost everything possible and nothing will stop the micro stuttering on my 5700x3d. Anyone else had this problem? Looking online - it seems quite common. It seems like I'm going to have to return it and get another 5600x ffs. Also, pic related on ebay is fake right? Made in china?
I have tried almost everything possible and nothing will stop the micro stuttering on my 5700x3d. Anyone else had this problem? Looking online - it seems quite common. It seems like I'm going to have to return it and get another 5600x ffs. Also, pic related on ebay is fake right? Made in china?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:52:42 No.103928214
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:54:20 No.103928226
>>103928214
They only ever do pricedrops US had for like a year when the
>new version is around the corner
They only ever do pricedrops US had for like a year when the
>new version is around the corner
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:03:30 No.103928270
>>103928202
>nothing will stop the micro stuttering
Welcome to AMD Dip land.
>Anyone else had this problem
yeah, loads of people.
>Also, pic related on ebay is fake right
it doesn't seem to be in the same clamshell that other Ryzen 5 5600x chips come in. It does have the correct markings for some chips, but they're faded which could indicate a less high quality instrument was used to put the logos/writing on than normal. Or that it was used with paste and it got rubbed out. If it's a fake it's a decent one.
>nothing will stop the micro stuttering
Welcome to AMD Dip land.
>Anyone else had this problem
yeah, loads of people.
>Also, pic related on ebay is fake right
it doesn't seem to be in the same clamshell that other Ryzen 5 5600x chips come in. It does have the correct markings for some chips, but they're faded which could indicate a less high quality instrument was used to put the logos/writing on than normal. Or that it was used with paste and it got rubbed out. If it's a fake it's a decent one.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:04:06 No.103928274
>>103928202
Have you tried using a dedicated tpm module?
Have you tried using a dedicated tpm module?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:04:49 No.103928276
>>103928270
Thanks mate.
Thanks mate.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:06:36 No.103928283
>>103928202
You're giving no info to work with. Update your BIOS.
You're giving no info to work with. Update your BIOS.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:07:44 No.103928289
>>103928274
No, I barely know anything about them. I'm just going to get a 5600x again. Thanks, but I've already wasted enough time on this bullshit.
No, I barely know anything about them. I'm just going to get a 5600x again. Thanks, but I've already wasted enough time on this bullshit.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:08:53 No.103928297
>>103928283
I have changed my bios multiple times. reinstalled windows, unplugged everything, even bought a better psu.
I have changed my bios multiple times. reinstalled windows, unplugged everything, even bought a better psu.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:10:35 No.103928307
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:11:35 No.103928314
>>103928307
Sorry, yes. And I've gone back to different versions also with no luck
Sorry, yes. And I've gone back to different versions also with no luck
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:18:28 No.103928353
>>103928314
Gigabyte mobo?
Gigabyte mobo?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:19:38 No.103928360
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.0-RADV-No-CDNA
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OPEN SORES FAGS BTFO
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OPEN SORES FAGS BTFO
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:20:07 No.103928364
>>103928353
b450 mortar
b450 mortar
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:22:39 No.103928378
>>103925598
Anyone know if 24" OLED's will be out soon? My third XG2431 died.
Sick of looking at forums or reddit because there's always a bunch of neckbeards with shitty eyesight saying 35" is too small and that they use triple 48" surround or some bs.
Anyone know if 24" OLED's will be out soon? My third XG2431 died.
Sick of looking at forums or reddit because there's always a bunch of neckbeards with shitty eyesight saying 35" is too small and that they use triple 48" surround or some bs.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:24:40 No.103928394
>>103928378
Just get a 26.5" OLED
Just get a 26.5" OLED
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:25:12 No.103928395
>>103928364
Turn fTPM off
Turn fTPM off
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:26:09 No.103928399
>>103928395
I'll try that. Cheers.
I'll try that. Cheers.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:26:30 No.103928401
>>103928394
too big
too big
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:40:18 No.103928482
>>103928395
It didn't change anything. Goodbye 5700x3D ;_;
It didn't change anything. Goodbye 5700x3D ;_;
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:44:17 No.103928509
>>103928360
>RADV Doesn't Work On AMD CDNA Instinct Accelerators
I'm sure everyone here with unreleased enterprise AMD AI accelerators is very upset
>RADV Doesn't Work On AMD CDNA Instinct Accelerators
I'm sure everyone here with unreleased enterprise AMD AI accelerators is very upset
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:52:00 No.103928549
PC built. Now, is there any thread or board where I can find info on good office chairs?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:53:20 No.103928557
>>103928549
if you're not a fat fuck then go to an office supply store and get a basic office chair with a highback, preferably with all metal construction.
if you're not a fat fuck then go to an office supply store and get a basic office chair with a highback, preferably with all metal construction.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:54:40 No.103928568
>>103925598
I regret throwing my CM Stacker into the e-waste bin.
I regret throwing my CM Stacker into the e-waste bin.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:00:48 No.103928608
>>103926653
>>103926711
Yeah a front panel connector could theoretically fuck something up if it shorts out. Doesn't need to generate power to be a problem, shitty circuit design is enough.
I wouldn't know about the Montech specifically but just in general.
Seconding the anon saying to check out Fractal tho.
>>103926711
Yeah a front panel connector could theoretically fuck something up if it shorts out. Doesn't need to generate power to be a problem, shitty circuit design is enough.
I wouldn't know about the Montech specifically but just in general.
Seconding the anon saying to check out Fractal tho.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:08:19 No.103928650
>>103925598
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it this weekend.
I'm gonna rebuild my computer.
No I will not be changing anything other than the case and adding a firmware hacked Pioneer optical drive. Going from a Fractal Torrent back to my old Define R6 and I will run that until I run out of space for drives.
I might upgrade this cycle but I also might not. Still on an 1800X with a used 3090. If I upgrade I'm going 9950X3D and 5090. Honestly a nicer monitor would probably be a more impactful upgrade as I'm still on a TN panel from like 2014.
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it this weekend.
I'm gonna rebuild my computer.
No I will not be changing anything other than the case and adding a firmware hacked Pioneer optical drive. Going from a Fractal Torrent back to my old Define R6 and I will run that until I run out of space for drives.
I might upgrade this cycle but I also might not. Still on an 1800X with a used 3090. If I upgrade I'm going 9950X3D and 5090. Honestly a nicer monitor would probably be a more impactful upgrade as I'm still on a TN panel from like 2014.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:09:00 No.103928654
>>103925598
how reliable are nzxt psu?
i'm very limited where i live currently
>NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1
how does that sound for the 5090?
how reliable are nzxt psu?
i'm very limited where i live currently
>NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1
how does that sound for the 5090?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:16:56 No.103928695
>>103928650
>Pioneer optical drive
>1800X with a used 3090
Let me guess, you're a pirate who rips his BD collection that occassionally stable diffuse images to coom?
>Pioneer optical drive
>1800X with a used 3090
Let me guess, you're a pirate who rips his BD collection that occassionally stable diffuse images to coom?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:26:51 No.103928756
>>103928695
You're like half right.
>more concerned about music than movies really
>haven't genned SD in like a year or so but yeah
>also mess with /p/, /v/, /vr/
>just haven't found a game I can't play at an acceptable framerate yet. Nothing new interests me and my backlog is so big that it's retarded to spend money on new games if I am still catching up to shit released before COVID.
>biggest driver for GPU would be maintaining the VRAM so I CAN SD if I want and going to 4K gaymen
>biggest driver for CPU would be both gaymen and /p/ work.
You're like half right.
>more concerned about music than movies really
>haven't genned SD in like a year or so but yeah
>also mess with /p/, /v/, /vr/
>just haven't found a game I can't play at an acceptable framerate yet. Nothing new interests me and my backlog is so big that it's retarded to spend money on new games if I am still catching up to shit released before COVID.
>biggest driver for GPU would be maintaining the VRAM so I CAN SD if I want and going to 4K gaymen
>biggest driver for CPU would be both gaymen and /p/ work.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:34:06 No.103928791
>>103928654
despite the brand its fine
despite the brand its fine
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:35:14 No.103928797
am I right in thinking that the 5080 should be around 30% quicker than my 7900XT?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:36:09 No.103928804
>>103928797
Depends on the track condition.
Depends on the track condition.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:36:56 No.103928807
>>103928804
was thinking overcast, no rain on the night before
was thinking overcast, no rain on the night before
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:47:11 No.103928848
I just want to run Marvel rivals at a stable 240 fps @1080. I don't care how much it costs. Well I say that but I would never pay for a *090 card for sure.
Should I just get a 9950x3d and a 9070xt?
Should I just get a 9950x3d and a 9070xt?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:47:53 No.103928855
>>103928848
9800x3d and 9070xt/5080
9800x3d and 9070xt/5080
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:55:03 No.103928895
>>103928855
Why 9800x3d? Isnt the 9950x3d strictly better in every way?
Why 9800x3d? Isnt the 9950x3d strictly better in every way?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:58:04 No.103928912
>>103928895
9800X3D actually has higher base clock. Or was it boost.
Basically bottom line is if you don't need the extra productivity performance there's little reason to get a 9950X3D. I mean you can anyway it's not gonna be worse, just not that much better to where it makes a lot of sense for most people.
9800X3D actually has higher base clock. Or was it boost.
Basically bottom line is if you don't need the extra productivity performance there's little reason to get a 9950X3D. I mean you can anyway it's not gonna be worse, just not that much better to where it makes a lot of sense for most people.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:59:56 No.103928925
>>103928807
Don't forget to check tyre warmers check box when you oc the engine to 109% and run qualifying tyres the whole race
Don't forget to check tyre warmers check box when you oc the engine to 109% and run qualifying tyres the whole race
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:03:23 No.103928944
>>103928912
Meh I don't build a pc very often so the extra 200 on the cpu aren't really gonna make a huge difference.
I always feel weird about getting mid range gpus, as if it's not going to be enough. But I never use anything above 1080p resolution and I only play shooter games and care little for all the weird graphics shit. My work doesn't require anything computationally heavy (Except some super large excel sheets).
I don't know. I have been "feeling" like I just need to put more into my cpu,and maybe finally get some liquid cooling and graphite sheets instead of paste. Having shitty graphics is unimportant to me compared to low frames or unexpected frame drops.
Meh I don't build a pc very often so the extra 200 on the cpu aren't really gonna make a huge difference.
I always feel weird about getting mid range gpus, as if it's not going to be enough. But I never use anything above 1080p resolution and I only play shooter games and care little for all the weird graphics shit. My work doesn't require anything computationally heavy (Except some super large excel sheets).
I don't know. I have been "feeling" like I just need to put more into my cpu,and maybe finally get some liquid cooling and graphite sheets instead of paste. Having shitty graphics is unimportant to me compared to low frames or unexpected frame drops.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:04:25 No.103928954
>>103928925
was just going to do a couple laps in the tyres first to get them and the engine warmed up
was just going to do a couple laps in the tyres first to get them and the engine warmed up
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:08:43 No.103928986
>>103928895
9950x3d would be better if it doesn't have a 8+8 topology that has latency problems talking between both groups of cores
9950x3d would be better if it doesn't have a 8+8 topology that has latency problems talking between both groups of cores
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:13:59 No.103929027
>>103928944
The CPU is really the most important part of the entire system imo so I don't blame you for wanting the extra performance of the 9950x3d.
GPU should just be matched to the games you play and resolution and quality settings at which you play them. If you're just doing 1080p you can get away with like a midrange 3000 series like a 3060, unless you have other productivity workload requirements.
>>103928986
Also this is another thing why you might consider a 9800X3D instead.
It's not a clear cut "9950X3D better" thing really. It really depends on what you're doing.
The CPU is really the most important part of the entire system imo so I don't blame you for wanting the extra performance of the 9950x3d.
GPU should just be matched to the games you play and resolution and quality settings at which you play them. If you're just doing 1080p you can get away with like a midrange 3000 series like a 3060, unless you have other productivity workload requirements.
>>103928986
Also this is another thing why you might consider a 9800X3D instead.
It's not a clear cut "9950X3D better" thing really. It really depends on what you're doing.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:18:50 No.103929047
Well? is he right?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:18:56 No.103929048
>>103928986
I see. This is actually something I had in mind as a possible downside.
>>103929027
I don't really have any constant computationally intense tasks.
Do you know when the ryzen 9 9800x3d is coming out? Has it been announced?
I am assuming I shouldn't even consider the 285k.
I see. This is actually something I had in mind as a possible downside.
>>103929027
I don't really have any constant computationally intense tasks.
Do you know when the ryzen 9 9800x3d is coming out? Has it been announced?
I am assuming I shouldn't even consider the 285k.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:20:20 No.103929056
>>103928855
>>103928895
>>103928912
I haven't watched CES. Will 9950x3d have split CCX again? 7950x3d is worse than 7800x3d in gaming because of this.
I am still not sure who are the targeted market for this CPU. Professionals that required cutting edge CPU that also use their workstation for game and want extra fps? Sounds stupid.
>>103928895
>>103928912
I haven't watched CES. Will 9950x3d have split CCX again? 7950x3d is worse than 7800x3d in gaming because of this.
I am still not sure who are the targeted market for this CPU. Professionals that required cutting edge CPU that also use their workstation for game and want extra fps? Sounds stupid.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:21:23 No.103929063
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:26:10 No.103929097
>>103929063
>>103929056
Someone mistyped it an a news site as ryzen 9 9800x3d and I thought I missed an announcement... my bad sorry guys
So the 285k is a no go completely? I have always had intel and I like them. I dont know. Its not a rational desire.
I am planning to pair it with a high CUDIMM (8200 @32) so maybe it 'll be better?
>>103929056
Someone mistyped it an a news site as ryzen 9 9800x3d and I thought I missed an announcement... my bad sorry guys
So the 285k is a no go completely? I have always had intel and I like them. I dont know. Its not a rational desire.
I am planning to pair it with a high CUDIMM (8200 @32) so maybe it 'll be better?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:26:11 No.103929098
>>103929048
9900 & 9950X3D are announced for some time in March.
9900 & 9950X3D are announced for some time in March.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:27:36 No.103929105
Noob question, if I clone my old 1TB SSD to a new 4TB SSD, will it clone the bad sectors over as well?
My 1TB has like 25% health left, thinking of changing it soon.
My 1TB has like 25% health left, thinking of changing it soon.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:29:09 No.103929119
>>103929056
Yes it's exactly the same as the 7950x3d in having a vcache CCD0 and frequency CCD1
>>103929097
285K with 8400mhz ram barely beats the i5 14600k. It's bad.
Yes it's exactly the same as the 7950x3d in having a vcache CCD0 and frequency CCD1
>>103929097
285K with 8400mhz ram barely beats the i5 14600k. It's bad.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:29:23 No.103929121
>>103929056
Yes 9950X3D is still split CCD.
We don't have any independent reviews yet because it's not out on the market. We believe it might be better overall but not by much vs the 9800X3D. I wouldn't firmly believe anything until the CPU has been in the hands of real people on the open market for at least a few weeks. That gives time for weird shit to surface of any caveats and bugs because there is usually something. Gen1 Ryzen for instance was very picky on what memory you used and that wasn't known well until the open market got ahold of them. The cross CCD latency and scheduler issues like you talk about too, weren't known well either until it has already been in the market.
Waiting for this just helps make a more informed decision.
The big thing different between 7000 and 9000 is that 9000 they were able to structure the die in such a way that it puts the hotter components closer to the thermal solution, theoretically allowing for better boosting performance and better thermals.
>>103929097
I would avoid Intel entirely. But I'm also an AMD fanboy and have never used anything but AMD CPUs in my main rig, even in the dark ages of bulldozer. I've come around to Nvidia graphics though.
Yes 9950X3D is still split CCD.
We don't have any independent reviews yet because it's not out on the market. We believe it might be better overall but not by much vs the 9800X3D. I wouldn't firmly believe anything until the CPU has been in the hands of real people on the open market for at least a few weeks. That gives time for weird shit to surface of any caveats and bugs because there is usually something. Gen1 Ryzen for instance was very picky on what memory you used and that wasn't known well until the open market got ahold of them. The cross CCD latency and scheduler issues like you talk about too, weren't known well either until it has already been in the market.
Waiting for this just helps make a more informed decision.
The big thing different between 7000 and 9000 is that 9000 they were able to structure the die in such a way that it puts the hotter components closer to the thermal solution, theoretically allowing for better boosting performance and better thermals.
>>103929097
I would avoid Intel entirely. But I'm also an AMD fanboy and have never used anything but AMD CPUs in my main rig, even in the dark ages of bulldozer. I've come around to Nvidia graphics though.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:30:40 No.103929128
>>103929105
it clones all the bits. if the files are corrupted then they're also corrupted on clone too.
it clones all the bits. if the files are corrupted then they're also corrupted on clone too.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:31:14 No.103929132
>>103929027
> The CPU is really the most important part of the entire system
Nope, the motherboard is. A CPU can be swapped for another easily. A motherboard defines and limits what is even possible to drop in. It's by far the most important decision to make.
> The CPU is really the most important part of the entire system
Nope, the motherboard is. A CPU can be swapped for another easily. A motherboard defines and limits what is even possible to drop in. It's by far the most important decision to make.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:33:34 No.103929143
>>103929132
Nope, the power supply is. A motherboard can be swapped for another easily. A power supply defines and limits what is even possible to drop in. It's by far the most important decision to make.
Nope, the power supply is. A motherboard can be swapped for another easily. A power supply defines and limits what is even possible to drop in. It's by far the most important decision to make.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:34:18 No.103929149
ummmm.... nvidiaclitties....???? What is going on?????
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:36:49 No.103929165
>>103929149
>Intel's benchmark cheats are faster than Nvidia's
Everywhere I look its a race to the bottom
>Intel's benchmark cheats are faster than Nvidia's
Everywhere I look its a race to the bottom
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:37:47 No.103929172
>>103928986
> 9950x3d would be better if
What would not be better "if"? 8+8 is still much better than just 8 for multicore workloads, this is what matters. For gaming it wouldn't even matter if all 16 cores were on one die because games hardly use more than 6-8 threads. By disabling one CCD for games latency is no longer an issue.
> 9950x3d would be better if
What would not be better "if"? 8+8 is still much better than just 8 for multicore workloads, this is what matters. For gaming it wouldn't even matter if all 16 cores were on one die because games hardly use more than 6-8 threads. By disabling one CCD for games latency is no longer an issue.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:38:02 No.103929176
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:41:14 No.103929194
>>103929172
If all of it was on one die, scheduling on core 0-7 and core 8-15 wouldn't have a performance impact at all and it will have a performance floor that's equal to or higher than the 9800x3d's minimum performance
If all of it was on one die, scheduling on core 0-7 and core 8-15 wouldn't have a performance impact at all and it will have a performance floor that's equal to or higher than the 9800x3d's minimum performance
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:42:59 No.103929209
>>103927693
New gpus aren't even to buy.
New gpus aren't even to buy.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:47:07 No.103929233
>>103929143
> A motherboard can be swapped for another easily
No, it can't. You would have to reinstall all components and a new Windows. But you can easily swap a PSU for another without further ado.
> A motherboard can be swapped for another easily
No, it can't. You would have to reinstall all components and a new Windows. But you can easily swap a PSU for another without further ado.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:49:16 No.103929274
>240hz 4K gaming
>Fully intend to use muh framegen muh DLSS
>Not sure if I really need a 5090 to justify dropping 2-2.2k if I can get MSRP
>Pretty sure a 5080 won't be enough even with upscaling shit
>Running on iGPU after giving 2070 to a relative, don't want to wait another year for 5080ti/super
This is quite the dilemma, but I'm leaning towards just biting the bullet on a 5090 and trying to find some way to make a little bit of $ on the side with it.
>Fully intend to use muh framegen muh DLSS
>Not sure if I really need a 5090 to justify dropping 2-2.2k if I can get MSRP
>Pretty sure a 5080 won't be enough even with upscaling shit
>Running on iGPU after giving 2070 to a relative, don't want to wait another year for 5080ti/super
This is quite the dilemma, but I'm leaning towards just biting the bullet on a 5090 and trying to find some way to make a little bit of $ on the side with it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:50:25 No.103929282
>>103929233
>reinstall all components
Takes 15 min and unplugging all the power supply cables is the hardest part
>reinstall a new windows
LMAO
>reinstall all components
Takes 15 min and unplugging all the power supply cables is the hardest part
>reinstall a new windows
LMAO
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:50:31 No.103929284
>>103929233
Why do you have to install Windows again if you get a new mobo? Can't you just plug your previous boot drive in and continue as normal?
Why do you have to install Windows again if you get a new mobo? Can't you just plug your previous boot drive in and continue as normal?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:51:01 No.103929289
overclocking noob
if I run OCCT with my PBO settings and it says "no errors" I'm gucci right?
9800X3D
>Enable PBO - motherboard limits
>+200mhz offset
>Scalar 8x
>curve optimizer -20
I don't really know what I'm looking at.
if I run OCCT with my PBO settings and it says "no errors" I'm gucci right?
9800X3D
>Enable PBO - motherboard limits
>+200mhz offset
>Scalar 8x
>curve optimizer -20
I don't really know what I'm looking at.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:52:03 No.103929298
>>103929274
There won't be a 5080ti if AMD doesn't utterly destroy the 5080 which they won't
There won't be a 5080ti if AMD doesn't utterly destroy the 5080 which they won't
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:52:37 No.103929302
>>103929284
you can he's talking shit
you can he's talking shit
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:54:14 No.103929309
>>103929298
lol
lol
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:57:53 No.103929340
>>103929289
Yes but even after OCCT there is still a tiny chance for errors.
In event viewer add WHEA-Logger custom log filter and check it after like a week of real use.
If it's empty it's fine and you can try deeper CO
Yes but even after OCCT there is still a tiny chance for errors.
In event viewer add WHEA-Logger custom log filter and check it after like a week of real use.
If it's empty it's fine and you can try deeper CO
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:58:10 No.103929343
>>103926323
5070 has 12GB VRAM only, it's a 1080p card, D.O.A.
5070Ti & 5080 have 16GB VRAM only and are too weak, they are 1440p cards at best.
5090 renders 27fps in CP77 4k. This is hardly even a 4k card!
AVOID this gen of RTX!
5070 has 12GB VRAM only, it's a 1080p card, D.O.A.
5070Ti & 5080 have 16GB VRAM only and are too weak, they are 1440p cards at best.
5090 renders 27fps in CP77 4k. This is hardly even a 4k card!
AVOID this gen of RTX!
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:59:54 No.103929359
>>103929274
>>240hz 4K gaming
let me stop you right there
You sound like a poorfag. You shouldn't have any doubts or second guesses about dropping $3k on a gpu if you want to get 240 fps at 4k.
Either temper your expectations and drop yourself down to 1440p / 100fps 4k if you care that much about price, or stop being a bitch and buy a 4090/5090.
>if I can get MSRP
You won't. The price starts at 2.5k for the first year of the 5090's release.
>>240hz 4K gaming
let me stop you right there
You sound like a poorfag. You shouldn't have any doubts or second guesses about dropping $3k on a gpu if you want to get 240 fps at 4k.
Either temper your expectations and drop yourself down to 1440p / 100fps 4k if you care that much about price, or stop being a bitch and buy a 4090/5090.
>if I can get MSRP
You won't. The price starts at 2.5k for the first year of the 5090's release.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:01:59 No.103929371
>>103929284
No, Windows yells at you about the change in components. Maybe things are different since I haven't changed motherboards in a few years, but I've had to reinstall and reactivate Windows every time I've moved computers, starting since about Windows 7 if I remember correctly.
No, Windows yells at you about the change in components. Maybe things are different since I haven't changed motherboards in a few years, but I've had to reinstall and reactivate Windows every time I've moved computers, starting since about Windows 7 if I remember correctly.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:02:04 No.103929372
>>103929340
thanks!
thanks!
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:04:20 No.103929390
>>103929359
No I can very easily afford the 5090, it's just I've never had a top end rig, always midrange stuff. I just splurged on a 9800X3D build as a little treat for getting a very very good score on a graduate school entrance exam that will likely secure me a spot at target school for lucrative jobs afterwards.
>You won't get MSRP
We'll see about that. Shant be paying scalpers simply out of principle. Gaming the system to price gouge people is one of the faggiest things imaginable.
No I can very easily afford the 5090, it's just I've never had a top end rig, always midrange stuff. I just splurged on a 9800X3D build as a little treat for getting a very very good score on a graduate school entrance exam that will likely secure me a spot at target school for lucrative jobs afterwards.
>You won't get MSRP
We'll see about that. Shant be paying scalpers simply out of principle. Gaming the system to price gouge people is one of the faggiest things imaginable.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:05:23 No.103929400
It will be possible to choose between cnn model and transformer model on dlss4
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:08:01 No.103929419
It will be impossible to choose between fox news model and decepticon model on fsr4
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:11:19 No.103929457
>>103926825
The 5090's 16x 16Gb GDDR7 chips @ 28Gbps consume about 65W power, the best 16Gb GDDR6X chips (24Gbps) would consume around 90W in this card.
The 5090's power-throttled GPU core boost is disappointing to read.
The 5090's 16x 16Gb GDDR7 chips @ 28Gbps consume about 65W power, the best 16Gb GDDR6X chips (24Gbps) would consume around 90W in this card.
The 5090's power-throttled GPU core boost is disappointing to read.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:14:11 No.103929486
https://youtu.be/EZ5UBhEDm-I
OH IT'S GETTING HOT NOW
OH IT'S GETTING HOT NOW
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:15:11 No.103929495
My friend bought an INTEL ARC B580 B580 graphics card.
I told him to buy 4060 or 5060, but no.
Now he can't download drivers from the intel website, lol.
I told him to buy 4060 or 5060, but no.
Now he can't download drivers from the intel website, lol.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:16:18 No.103929507
>>103926852
5090D can match the 5090's gaming performance @ 575W, that aspect isn't neutered.
Below are the 5090D's limitations:
>Decreased AI performance: 3352 AI TOPS 2375 AI TOPS
>AI Acceleration, Cryptominng limited to 3 seconds
>Multi-GPU disabled
>Power Limit cannot be modified
The performance numbers make sense since Blackwell 2.0 is using TSMC "4nm".
5090D can match the 5090's gaming performance @ 575W, that aspect isn't neutered.
Below are the 5090D's limitations:
>Decreased AI performance: 3352 AI TOPS 2375 AI TOPS
>AI Acceleration, Cryptominng limited to 3 seconds
>Multi-GPU disabled
>Power Limit cannot be modified
The performance numbers make sense since Blackwell 2.0 is using TSMC "4nm".
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:18:15 No.103929533
>>103929495
Another ABN (Anyone But Nvidia) retard pays the price.
Another ABN (Anyone But Nvidia) retard pays the price.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:18:42 No.103929537
>>103927052
You get what you pay for, and Arctic is making a profit out of those fans.
Imagine how cheap the production cost is.
You get what you pay for, and Arctic is making a profit out of those fans.
Imagine how cheap the production cost is.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:19:20 No.103929544
>>103929486
>the future of game dev is ai generated shit that requires cuda
its over. thats how nvidia will continue its monopoly
>the future of game dev is ai generated shit that requires cuda
its over. thats how nvidia will continue its monopoly
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:21:32 No.103929558
>>103927611
Not fair to blame the anime fig OP for that, just admit you were seriously considering the Y70.
Not fair to blame the anime fig OP for that, just admit you were seriously considering the Y70.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:25:22 No.103929589
>>103929544
Unless some miracle AI comes along no one is going to make a big game that exclusively leans on Nvidia features. Unless the gamers want to pay $500 for their AAAA game.
Unless some miracle AI comes along no one is going to make a big game that exclusively leans on Nvidia features. Unless the gamers want to pay $500 for their AAAA game.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:25:38 No.103929591
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:26:04 No.103929594
>>103928650
>Honestly a nicer monitor would probably be a more impactful upgrade as I'm still on a TN panel from like 2014.
Even the budget 27" Dell G2724D IPS panel ($150) would be an upgrade.
I'd say buy the monitor now if you don't mind the downsides of IPS.
>Honestly a nicer monitor would probably be a more impactful upgrade as I'm still on a TN panel from like 2014.
Even the budget 27" Dell G2724D IPS panel ($150) would be an upgrade.
I'd say buy the monitor now if you don't mind the downsides of IPS.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:29:16 No.103929630
>>103929533
I would say that AMD has a point, but intel is just madness.
But in his case it's especially funny, he really won't be able to download the drivers normally lol.
I would say that AMD has a point, but intel is just madness.
But in his case it's especially funny, he really won't be able to download the drivers normally lol.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:29:16 No.103929631
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:29:37 No.103929633
>>103926576
I will buy an XX90 when I am on 6 digit salary.
I will buy an XX90 when I am on 6 digit salary.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:30:14 No.103929637
>>103929544
I feel like AI-generated pixels and even frames are going to become pretty standard at some point. I don't think it's necessary to calculate how every single pixel should look on an 8k screen at 500hz or whatever bonkers fidelity we end up getting to; it's preposterously more visual detail than the nerves connecting our eyes to our brains could ever convey all at once. I feel like the eventual future is eye-tracking that generates a lot of native detail wherever you're looking, and really low-resolution detail that's AI-enhanced to not look too terrible everywhere else.
AI-generated pixels and frames and stuff are going to look a lot better in another 20 years than they do now.
I feel like AI-generated pixels and even frames are going to become pretty standard at some point. I don't think it's necessary to calculate how every single pixel should look on an 8k screen at 500hz or whatever bonkers fidelity we end up getting to; it's preposterously more visual detail than the nerves connecting our eyes to our brains could ever convey all at once. I feel like the eventual future is eye-tracking that generates a lot of native detail wherever you're looking, and really low-resolution detail that's AI-enhanced to not look too terrible everywhere else.
AI-generated pixels and frames and stuff are going to look a lot better in another 20 years than they do now.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:30:54 No.103929642
>have discord open in background
>lose 1k graphics score on 3dmark
Wtf
>lose 1k graphics score on 3dmark
Wtf
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:31:31 No.103929649
In Multi Frame Generation is it just making 3 copies of the same frame? Because I can't understand how it does anything else. Like if it's making multiple different frames how would it even order them correctly? I think it's just making 3 copies of the same frame.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:31:51 No.103929653
>>103929048
>I am assuming I shouldn't even consider the 285k.
For gaming? Don't.
You need to buy a 2-DIMM slot XOC or ITX board and CUDIMM DDR5 kits that start at $250ish to try and make up for the memory latency penalty caused by Arrow Lake's disaggregated tile design (memory controller is on a separate tile to the 3nm CPU core tile).
A 285K with 8200MT/s CUDIMM XMP enabled runs at 90ns memory latency on a 4-DIMM board.
90ns is near basic bitch JEDEC 4800MT/s' memory latency.
>I am assuming I shouldn't even consider the 285k.
For gaming? Don't.
You need to buy a 2-DIMM slot XOC or ITX board and CUDIMM DDR5 kits that start at $250ish to try and make up for the memory latency penalty caused by Arrow Lake's disaggregated tile design (memory controller is on a separate tile to the 3nm CPU core tile).
A 285K with 8200MT/s CUDIMM XMP enabled runs at 90ns memory latency on a 4-DIMM board.
90ns is near basic bitch JEDEC 4800MT/s' memory latency.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:32:05 No.103929655
So Anti-China gets AI Ban. Makes sense in principle. Almost.
But what is stopping the Chinese Military from scalping a thousand 5090s from America then transshipping them via Korea?
But what is stopping the Chinese Military from scalping a thousand 5090s from America then transshipping them via Korea?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:32:09 No.103929657
>>103929642
Discord needs a lot a graphical horsepower to make the cash shop buttons and advertisements even more shiny, please understand.
Discord needs a lot a graphical horsepower to make the cash shop buttons and advertisements even more shiny, please understand.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:32:22 No.103929658
>>103929589
nvidia owns 95% of the gpu market. I can see some dev make cuda exclusive game
nvidia owns 95% of the gpu market. I can see some dev make cuda exclusive game
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:32:38 No.103929665
>>103929642
On my last pc i always had issues with discord and hardware acceleration
maybe disable that?
I can tell no difference in hardware acceleration is on or off on my new pc
On my last pc i always had issues with discord and hardware acceleration
maybe disable that?
I can tell no difference in hardware acceleration is on or off on my new pc
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:33:02 No.103929671
I'm waiting for the RTX 5090D. The 5090 is too expensive in my country.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:35:19 No.103929701
>>103929658
most devs just abandon linux because there are too many cheaters using linux
most devs just abandon linux because there are too many cheaters using linux
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:35:57 No.103929706
>>103929289
You need to run AIDA64 stress tests (CPU/Cache/FPU enabled) to validate CO stability, not my OP but useful information below.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103677315/#103678522
You need to run AIDA64 stress tests (CPU/Cache/FPU enabled) to validate CO stability, not my OP but useful information below.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/10
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:36:31 No.103929711
>>103929149
Man, if only it works just as well with budget CPU.
Man, if only it works just as well with budget CPU.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:38:43 No.103929730
Everywhere just shows this simply isn't a truly new architecture. This is some 580/680 level fake jump.
The only upgrade for 40 series owners that makes sense is 4060 - 5070
The only upgrade for 40 series owners that makes sense is 4060 - 5070
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:41:51 No.103929758
Why is asus like that
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:43:28 No.103929770
>>103929730
>4090 = hd7970 (384bit)
>5090 = r9 290x (512bit)
tfw you live long enough for nvidia to re-release gcn
>4090 = hd7970 (384bit)
>5090 = r9 290x (512bit)
tfw you live long enough for nvidia to re-release gcn
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:45:19 No.103929783
>>103929544
These new AI-accelerated rendering techniques take time for game studios to adopt.
You have just started to see major titles featuring RT, it was unveiled 6 years ago.
Some game studios are early adopters, but they make games like Alan Wake 2 and don't have a major impact on the overall gaming industry.
Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
If a rendering tech can't run on a Series S, they're not even guaranteed to be prominently featured on next gen (PS6) titles.
These new AI-accelerated rendering techniques take time for game studios to adopt.
You have just started to see major titles featuring RT, it was unveiled 6 years ago.
Some game studios are early adopters, but they make games like Alan Wake 2 and don't have a major impact on the overall gaming industry.
Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
If a rendering tech can't run on a Series S, they're not even guaranteed to be prominently featured on next gen (PS6) titles.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:46:06 No.103929795
>>103929594
I want to go OLED, I don't mind spending a bit on the monitor as my current one has lasted me for well over a decade.
It's a 27" Asus 1440 144hz with freesync.
Really the decision is whether I want to stick with 16:9 1440 which means a ~27" monitor, go to 1440 ultra wide, or move up to 4K at 16:9, which means a ~32" monitor.
I am this
>>103928650
guy so 1800x/3090 ... I think I can handle a 4K display at a reasonable FPS, but not anywhere near the max refresh rate of the monitor. I don't know if I want to feel like I'm boxed in to having to upgrade, even though I probably will at some point. I want it to run decently on my current rig, which I know 1440 16:9 does. That's my sort of mental dilemma.
I want to go OLED, I don't mind spending a bit on the monitor as my current one has lasted me for well over a decade.
It's a 27" Asus 1440 144hz with freesync.
Really the decision is whether I want to stick with 16:9 1440 which means a ~27" monitor, go to 1440 ultra wide, or move up to 4K at 16:9, which means a ~32" monitor.
I am this
>>103928650
guy so 1800x/3090 ... I think I can handle a 4K display at a reasonable FPS, but not anywhere near the max refresh rate of the monitor. I don't know if I want to feel like I'm boxed in to having to upgrade, even though I probably will at some point. I want it to run decently on my current rig, which I know 1440 16:9 does. That's my sort of mental dilemma.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:48:31 No.103929817
>>103929758
I think these are the standard prices in Europe.
I think these are the standard prices in Europe.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:49:37 No.103929832
why does the 5090 feel so....lackluster
do you think there will be a massive performance jump with the 60 series? i want to consoom but man, it's barely any better. i also get the feeling that someone's going to figure out how to enable mfg on 40 series cards
do you think there will be a massive performance jump with the 60 series? i want to consoom but man, it's barely any better. i also get the feeling that someone's going to figure out how to enable mfg on 40 series cards
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:51:10 No.103929848
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:52:53 No.103929865
something also tells me there will be a lot of failing memory chips on the FE 5090 cards, i really don't believe a 2 slot cooler is going to work
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:59:04 No.103929922
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:00:42 No.103929935
>>103929922
>company trying to sell product makes new product look better
yeah welcome to life, it's not that weird or surprising
>company trying to sell product makes new product look better
yeah welcome to life, it's not that weird or surprising
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:02:38 No.103929948
>>103929795
I wouldn't go ultra wide, go 32" or 27" 4K.
MSI has the most committed QD-OLED firmware development team btw, even more committed than Samsung Electronics.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-new-msi-firmware-update-properly-fixes-the-peak-1000-hdr-mode-for-many-of-their-qd-oled-monitors
Some manufacturers like Dell Alienware aren't even bothering to address this issue, they're just blaming Samsung Display.
When you guys are planning to buy an OLED monitor, you have to consider the manufacturer's history of firmware support.
And don't make launch-day purchases of OLED monitors, you're just paying full price to be an early-access tester.
I wouldn't go ultra wide, go 32" or 27" 4K.
MSI has the most committed QD-OLED firmware development team btw, even more committed than Samsung Electronics.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/t
Some manufacturers like Dell Alienware aren't even bothering to address this issue, they're just blaming Samsung Display.
When you guys are planning to buy an OLED monitor, you have to consider the manufacturer's history of firmware support.
And don't make launch-day purchases of OLED monitors, you're just paying full price to be an early-access tester.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:04:25 No.103929964
>>103929948
The real reason Dell isn't going to do anything is because there is no one left to do anything. They fired like 2/3 of their workforce in May or whatever last year. There is nobody to make updates for that monitor anymore.
The real reason Dell isn't going to do anything is because there is no one left to do anything. They fired like 2/3 of their workforce in May or whatever last year. There is nobody to make updates for that monitor anymore.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:05:59 No.103929982
>>103929964
>>103929948
Also, this is why I still like buying from ASUS despite their shit RMA support. Their after purchase support in terms of updates is still really good.
>>103929948
Also, this is why I still like buying from ASUS despite their shit RMA support. Their after purchase support in terms of updates is still really good.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:07:47 No.103929999
>>103929964
Even more reason to pass on Dell Alienware monitors, great news.
Pic is how other major QD-OLED manufacturers are dealing with the brightness issues associated with Peak 1000 HDR Mode.
It's just embarrassing for Samsung Electronics to release that fix. I know Samsung Electronics & Samsung Display operate as a different business (both subsidiaries of the Samsung conglomerate).
Even more reason to pass on Dell Alienware monitors, great news.
Pic is how other major QD-OLED manufacturers are dealing with the brightness issues associated with Peak 1000 HDR Mode.
It's just embarrassing for Samsung Electronics to release that fix. I know Samsung Electronics & Samsung Display operate as a different business (both subsidiaries of the Samsung conglomerate).
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:09:31 No.103930019
>>103929999
It's really not THAT big of a deal btw. I actually have the alienware monitor. One pseudo fix is to just use dolby vision bright mode. Yes, it overbrightens the image, but I'm pretty sure tftcentral reviewed that mode and said it's similar to the hdr 1000 fixes asus and gigabyte implemented in their montiors.
It's really not THAT big of a deal btw. I actually have the alienware monitor. One pseudo fix is to just use dolby vision bright mode. Yes, it overbrightens the image, but I'm pretty sure tftcentral reviewed that mode and said it's similar to the hdr 1000 fixes asus and gigabyte implemented in their montiors.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:10:25 No.103930028
>>103930019
>'It's not THAT bad for a high-end monitor to over-brighten images at HDR'
That's your standard. Stay in your lane.
>'It's not THAT bad for a high-end monitor to over-brighten images at HDR'
That's your standard. Stay in your lane.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:10:28 No.103930031
The Aorus Master 5080 costs US$1594 in Norway. The ASUS TUF Gaming 5090 costs US$2533. Both are easily twice that from scalpers.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:11:11 No.103930038
>>103929340
Zen 5 almost never displays WHEAs, you can run the most unstable core OC and FCLK possible and it will still show 0 unless your chip is basically dying.
>>103929706
>if I run OCCT with my PBO settings and it says "no errors"
What did you run in OCCT? Core cycling is useless on Zen 4/5 and so are most maxed out AVX loads as they will throttle your clocks too low for undervolts to start acting up.
Like >>103929706 posted, you want to validate CO settings with the AIDA combined test, it's the most potent test for it. There are other options like P95/VT3 that can catch CO issues but it takes too long.
>Scalar 8x
I would highly recommend dialing back the Scalar settings as that is absolutely unsafe above 1x and will degrade your chip faster due to increased FIT levels.
The performance "gain" isn't even relevant, the most it will do is stabilize lower CO settings at the cost of pushing more voltage and ignoring vCore limiters.
Zen 5 almost never displays WHEAs, you can run the most unstable core OC and FCLK possible and it will still show 0 unless your chip is basically dying.
>>103929706
>if I run OCCT with my PBO settings and it says "no errors"
What did you run in OCCT? Core cycling is useless on Zen 4/5 and so are most maxed out AVX loads as they will throttle your clocks too low for undervolts to start acting up.
Like >>103929706 posted, you want to validate CO settings with the AIDA combined test, it's the most potent test for it. There are other options like P95/VT3 that can catch CO issues but it takes too long.
>Scalar 8x
I would highly recommend dialing back the Scalar settings as that is absolutely unsafe above 1x and will degrade your chip faster due to increased FIT levels.
The performance "gain" isn't even relevant, the most it will do is stabilize lower CO settings at the cost of pushing more voltage and ignoring vCore limiters.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:11:54 No.103930052
>>103930028
You are aware that this new msi hdr 1000 mode is more of a cherry on top and does not comply with Samsung's actual guidelines, right? So when your monitor burns out in the next year and your RMA request is denied, what will you do then?
You are aware that this new msi hdr 1000 mode is more of a cherry on top and does not comply with Samsung's actual guidelines, right? So when your monitor burns out in the next year and your RMA request is denied, what will you do then?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:15:16 No.103930092
>>103929832
rtx60 will have a die shrink to N3E/N3P so it should be much better in efficiency and (only on the 90 card) performance
rtx60 will have a die shrink to N3E/N3P so it should be much better in efficiency and (only on the 90 card) performance
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:19:58 No.103930125
how is it possible that nobody has leaked suich a highly sought after driver (r570) from nvidia
i want to test the new model
i want to test the new nvidia app settings
reeeee
i want to test the new model
i want to test the new nvidia app settings
reeeee
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:21:34 No.103930138
>>103930052
You are coping hard, especially with the 1-year burn-in cope.
MSI's Peak 1000 HDR mode isn't the one that's overbrightening images.
You are coping hard, especially with the 1-year burn-in cope.
MSI's Peak 1000 HDR mode isn't the one that's overbrightening images.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:24:05 No.103930162
>>103930138
>he doesn't understand why over brightening the entire image isn't as bad as increasing peak brightness in one specific location
So, you are actually a retard and don't understand how the technology works or why these limits were put in place in the first place. OK.
>he doesn't understand why over brightening the entire image isn't as bad as increasing peak brightness in one specific location
So, you are actually a retard and don't understand how the technology works or why these limits were put in place in the first place. OK.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:24:40 No.103930167
>>103929948
If I go 4K I will go 32" to keep roughly a similar pixel density to my existing monitor but gain more real estate.
That's kind of the way I was already thinking of going. The hierarchy in my mind of what I was likely to look at was something like
4K 16:9 ~~ 1440 16:9 > 1440 ultrawide >>>> 4K ultrawide > 8K anything
If I go 4K I will go 32" to keep roughly a similar pixel density to my existing monitor but gain more real estate.
That's kind of the way I was already thinking of going. The hierarchy in my mind of what I was likely to look at was something like
4K 16:9 ~~ 1440 16:9 > 1440 ultrawide >>>> 4K ultrawide > 8K anything
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:25:34 No.103930174
Anons, how the hell is 7900x so much cheaper than 7950x or 9950x?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:25:43 No.103930180
>>103930031
holy shit, how am I supposed to afford this
holy shit, how am I supposed to afford this
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:26:57 No.103930187
>>103930031
And that's before the tariffs
And that's before the tariffs
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:27:32 No.103930193
>>103930031
how much was the 4080s in comparison?
how much was the 4080s in comparison?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:27:35 No.103930194
>>103930162
>He's coping this hard about bag holding a Dolby Vision bright mode "pseudo-fix" over brightened HDR images.
Buy Dell Alienware QD-OLED monitors people because it doesn't matter if the likes of MSI spent 9 months (+ monetary cost) trying to come up with the best solution to the issue.
>He's coping this hard about bag holding a Dolby Vision bright mode "pseudo-fix" over brightened HDR images.
Buy Dell Alienware QD-OLED monitors people because it doesn't matter if the likes of MSI spent 9 months (+ monetary cost) trying to come up with the best solution to the issue.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:28:31 No.103930202
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:28:38 No.103930204
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:28:40 No.103930206
>>103930031
>1600 for a card that performs worse than a 4090
LMAOOOOOO, 5080 is absolutely DOA, even worse than 4080
>1600 for a card that performs worse than a 4090
LMAOOOOOO, 5080 is absolutely DOA, even worse than 4080
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:28:45 No.103930207
>>103930194
The gook MSI shill is here lol
The gook MSI shill is here lol
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:29:41 No.103930217
>>103930193
12999 NOK, roughly $1150.
12999 NOK, roughly $1150.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:31:14 No.103930232
>>103930204
Says the Dell Alienware QD-OLED monitor owner, KEK.
>b-b-burn in!
I accept your concession.
>>103930207
Just buy a Dell Alienware anon.
Says the Dell Alienware QD-OLED monitor owner, KEK.
>b-b-burn in!
I accept your concession.
>>103930207
Just buy a Dell Alienware anon.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:32:09 No.103930237
>>103930217
Are you certain that those prices you posted are legit or are they placeholders?
Are you certain that those prices you posted are legit or are they placeholders?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:33:09 No.103930250
what's the best browser to use rn?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:36:00 No.103930278
>>103926003
Its either some different issue or the store you are buying from is shit.
Its either some different issue or the store you are buying from is shit.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:37:14 No.103930292
What's the answer if I want a monitor with OLED quality but also LCD longevity?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:39:29 No.103930309
>>103930292
there is no answer and there never will be
some retards gonna bring up microled but it will never ever reach consumers because then samsung and lg couldn't dominate the display space with planned obsolescence
there is no answer and there never will be
some retards gonna bring up microled but it will never ever reach consumers because then samsung and lg couldn't dominate the display space with planned obsolescence
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:39:31 No.103930310
>>103930292
LCD panels with FALD
LCD panels with FALD
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:39:36 No.103930311
>>103930292
You wait® for monitors with MAX OLED panels, or wait® even longer for other panel technologies to mature to be ready for mass production.
You wait® for monitors with MAX OLED panels, or wait® even longer for other panel technologies to mature to be ready for mass production.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:40:18 No.103930318
>>103930237
Legit, but Norway is extremely expensive compared to the rest of the world. The placeholders are set to 99999 NOK.
Legit, but Norway is extremely expensive compared to the rest of the world. The placeholders are set to 99999 NOK.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:40:42 No.103930323
>>103930202
I bought one anyways and its wicked cool. I just wish I had bought the 7950x though.
I bought one anyways and its wicked cool. I just wish I had bought the 7950x though.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:41:07 No.103930327
>>103930250
brave
brave
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:41:09 No.103930328
do we know what the actual percentages are for the upcoming tariffs in the us? can't find shit online anymore, google returns articles that are all either paywalled or don't say what the percent actually is.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:41:48 No.103930334
>>103930217
Just go over to Svenska and buy your shit desu. Fuck the norgay jews.
Just go over to Svenska and buy your shit desu. Fuck the norgay jews.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:42:51 No.103930341
are there any full ATX cases with a height less than 19 inches?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:44:30 No.103930361
So uh....OP post asides, what is the best Nvme SSD brand that can take a lot of punishment? My friend recently bought a samsung 990 and that thing died after 2 months
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:44:32 No.103930362
>>103930038
I read online that AMD reccomends 7x-10x. The video I watched started at 10x.
I could scale it back sure, I'm not sure I can tell a difference anyway.
I ran the AIDA64 test for an hour. It didn't say there was any errors or anything. voltage was within specs, pc didn't crash etc
I read online that AMD reccomends 7x-10x. The video I watched started at 10x.
I could scale it back sure, I'm not sure I can tell a difference anyway.
I ran the AIDA64 test for an hour. It didn't say there was any errors or anything. voltage was within specs, pc didn't crash etc
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:44:33 No.103930363
>>103930250
Firefox.
Firefox.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:44:57 No.103930366
>>103930328
nothing is set in stone until the orange man is in office on the 20th and even then, there will most likely be negotiations before anything goes into effect
nothing is set in stone until the orange man is in office on the 20th and even then, there will most likely be negotiations before anything goes into effect
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:49:06 No.103930393
i wasnt paying attention and i slapped a b450m/ac in an asus ap201 case and the front panel usb-c uses a type e port internally (wtf). all the internal usb board on amazon look like th emost premium chinkshit. anyone have recs for something that wont immediately die or housefire? or should i just plug it into a usb2.0 header with type-e adapter and call it a day
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:53:14 No.103930431
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:55:19 No.103930444
>>103930393
Buy better board desu?
Buy better board desu?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:56:39 No.103930456
>>103930444
im building a junk pc from spare parts so the budget is minimal
im building a junk pc from spare parts so the budget is minimal
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:57:07 No.103930460
>>103929630
They believe youtubers that are handed drivers and test on top of the line equipment with a pdf of the exact settings to use and suggestions of games to test. You should only be buying intel if you expect shit to break and are okay with it.
They believe youtubers that are handed drivers and test on top of the line equipment with a pdf of the exact settings to use and suggestions of games to test. You should only be buying intel if you expect shit to break and are okay with it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:01:02 No.103930497
I have an oldish htpc with a 4600g and 8gigs of ram hooked on a 4k60fps tv. I am thinking of turning it into some kind of gaming machine made to play games from '17 and older at 4k. What gpu would you guys recommend for this? The game just needs to run fine at mid settings, 60fps are nice but not mandatory. My psu is corsair bronze plus 650w. I would prefer an AMD card due to loonix.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:01:56 No.103930512
>>103930361
Pick a well-reviewed NVMe SSD with the highest TBW endurance I guess, and one with a cooler operating temperature.
Pick a well-reviewed NVMe SSD with the highest TBW endurance I guess, and one with a cooler operating temperature.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:02:40 No.103930521
>>103925598
>radeontard op
>free from mental illness
Pick one
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/88691123/#q88691123
>radeontard op
>free from mental illness
Pick one
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/88
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:10:12 No.103930599
>>103929783
>Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
This has more to do with Epic's retardation than AW2 itself
AW2 launched without physical copies and it still isn't out on Steam or GOG either. If Epic actually wants to sell more copies of that game they know what they have to do. I can't see epic succeeding as a publisher if they continue to the exact thing that every major publisher has stopped doing because it's literally leaving money on the table.
>Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
This has more to do with Epic's retardation than AW2 itself
AW2 launched without physical copies and it still isn't out on Steam or GOG either. If Epic actually wants to sell more copies of that game they know what they have to do. I can't see epic succeeding as a publisher if they continue to the exact thing that every major publisher has stopped doing because it's literally leaving money on the table.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:22:00 No.103930722
>>103930599
Because AW2 is selling fine on consoles? (it's not).
Because AW2 is selling fine on consoles? (it's not).
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:25:18 No.103930757
>>103925598
It's extremely stupid to recommend 1080p or 1440p monitors in 2025.
It's extremely stupid to recommend 1080p or 1440p monitors in 2025.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:25:29 No.103930759
>>103930722
please read
>AW2 launched without physical copies
Retarded decisions like that add up. They would have made their money back far sooner if Epic wasn't a retarded publisher.
please read
>AW2 launched without physical copies
Retarded decisions like that add up. They would have made their money back far sooner if Epic wasn't a retarded publisher.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:29:15 No.103930788
>>103930759
>physical copies
Overrated for games like AW2 that have to be discounted very quickly.
Physical distributors are still getting their contracted cut, it's the game publishers & studios that take the L on the discounts.
>physical copies
Overrated for games like AW2 that have to be discounted very quickly.
Physical distributors are still getting their contracted cut, it's the game publishers & studios that take the L on the discounts.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:31:42 No.103930807
>>103930759
Please read:
>PS5 and PS4 physical sales in 2024 now only account for 30% of all PlayStation games sold as players continue to invest more in their digital game collections.
Please read:
>PS5 and PS4 physical sales in 2024 now only account for 30% of all PlayStation games sold as players continue to invest more in their digital game collections.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:33:20 No.103930829
>>103927609
Ebay is flooded with these neutered brick cards
I report every single 4090 I see for less than 2.5k because literally all of them are chinks trying to scam with e-waste
Ebay is flooded with these neutered brick cards
I report every single 4090 I see for less than 2.5k because literally all of them are chinks trying to scam with e-waste
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:30:35 No.103931349
>>103930829
It's funny considering most scamming complaints on the eBay forums paint buyers as the devil and sellers as the heroic protagonists. The narrative is that they don't scam.
It's funny considering most scamming complaints on the eBay forums paint buyers as the devil and sellers as the heroic protagonists. The narrative is that they don't scam.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:40:06 No.103932117
>>103929783
>Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
That's because they were absolute fucking retards with other parts of the game, not because they used RT.
>Alan Wake 2 took over a year to recoup their development & marketing costs.
That's because they were absolute fucking retards with other parts of the game, not because they used RT.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)15:02:35 No.103933030
>>103932117
Showcasing RT contributed to their profitability issues, just by raising the system requirements. Facts.
Showcasing RT contributed to their profitability issues, just by raising the system requirements. Facts.