/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103886809
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103886809
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:22:47 No.103891825
>>103891813
Hope yall got a 4090 when you had the chance lol.
Hope yall got a 4090 when you had the chance lol.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:23:42 No.103891834
>>103891825
5090 is 25% more raster perf and produces 3 interpolated frames instead of 1
so yeah, hope you managed to sell off your 4090 in time
5090 is 25% more raster perf and produces 3 interpolated frames instead of 1
so yeah, hope you managed to sell off your 4090 in time
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:24:47 No.103891843
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:25:56 No.103891856
not patient enough to download warzone, what stress test do you recommend for LL undervolting?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:26:29 No.103891858
Looks like ARC gpus has better image quality maybe built in dither (much less bandind than nvidia gtx card).
In days before when i switched from ATI to nvidia i noticed barery visible banding, now with ARC its gone again.
But i miss GPU sheduling on ARC. And in latest driver anisotropic filtering not avialable? ARC users?
In days before when i switched from ATI to nvidia i noticed barery visible banding, now with ARC its gone again.
But i miss GPU sheduling on ARC. And in latest driver anisotropic filtering not avialable? ARC users?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:32:22 No.103891911
>>103891813
if you're gonna put those stickers on your machine you should at least take ten minutes with an exacto knife to saw off that ugly white border.
if you're gonna put those stickers on your machine you should at least take ten minutes with an exacto knife to saw off that ugly white border.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:34:06 No.103891924
still waiting for proper explanation as of why should AMD cards be avoided
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:34:18 No.103891927
>>103891858
>In days before when i switched from ATI to nvidia i noticed barery visible banding
IIRC this was because the AMD drivers already came with some tuned up color settings whereas with Nvidia you had to go calibrate it yourself.
>In days before when i switched from ATI to nvidia i noticed barery visible banding
IIRC this was because the AMD drivers already came with some tuned up color settings whereas with Nvidia you had to go calibrate it yourself.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:34:21 No.103891928
Do I pay 600 eurinos for a 9800x3d from Amazon I'm really torn bros the fomo is getting me. It feels like the price will never go lower than that in europe
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:34:27 No.103891930
>>103891834
>5090 is 25% more raster perf
I hate this so much
I was actually so ready to invest and get a 5090
But I don't believe the 5090 will be as popular as the 4090 is atm when it comes to reselling value.
>5090 is 25% more raster perf
I hate this so much
I was actually so ready to invest and get a 5090
But I don't believe the 5090 will be as popular as the 4090 is atm when it comes to reselling value.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:35:06 No.103891939
>>103891924
Amd should be avoid if you do any type of work.
Amd should be avoid if you do any type of work.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:36:41 No.103891949
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:37:04 No.103891954
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:38:25 No.103891964
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:38:39 No.103891969
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:38:52 No.103891972
>>103891928
pull the trigger. now.
the times when computer parts would actually get cheaper again are over.
there is only one way. and it's up.
pull the trigger. now.
the times when computer parts would actually get cheaper again are over.
there is only one way. and it's up.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:38:59 No.103891975
>>103891954
what does that have to do with AMD GPUs?
what does that have to do with AMD GPUs?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:39:57 No.103891983
>>103891969
I won't be buying a 5000 card thanks :^)
I won't be buying a 5000 card thanks :^)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:40:45 No.103891996
>>103891858
AMD and Nvidia GPUs do dithering too, you have to enable it.
Don't need it though with HDR games and RTX HDR.
AMD and Nvidia GPUs do dithering too, you have to enable it.
Don't need it though with HDR games and RTX HDR.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:41:23 No.103892003
I have a Corsair 400r and the maximum GPU length is about 318mm. The restricting feature is a hard drive cage which seems to be "non-removable"
Hypothetically, would it be a bad idea to either cut up or remove a hard drive cage? I could just dremel a slot in around the GPU area, but would removing part of all weaken my case enough for it to fold like a house of cards?
Hypothetically, would it be a bad idea to either cut up or remove a hard drive cage? I could just dremel a slot in around the GPU area, but would removing part of all weaken my case enough for it to fold like a house of cards?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:41:48 No.103892006
mentally ill nvidiot shill
yikes
yikes
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:41:57 No.103892009
>>103891983
You're a retard if you use FG anyways, be it FSR or DLLS FG. But Lossless Scaling is even worse.
You're a retard if you use FG anyways, be it FSR or DLLS FG. But Lossless Scaling is even worse.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:43:07 No.103892020
>>103891964
top kek, you retarded fucks cannot really believe this, right?
top kek, you retarded fucks cannot really believe this, right?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:44:07 No.103892029
>>103892020
it actually is
i ran p95 for 4 hours and nothing
ran warzone 8 minutes in i crashed and knew it was ram timings
it actually is
i ran p95 for 4 hours and nothing
ran warzone 8 minutes in i crashed and knew it was ram timings
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:44:32 No.103892034
>>103891928
Go for it.
When amd releases the 9900x3d and 50 soon and people will realise that it's more expensive and everyone will jump on the 9800x3d
Go for it.
When amd releases the 9900x3d and 50 soon and people will realise that it's more expensive and everyone will jump on the 9800x3d
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:45:34 No.103892044
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:46:35 No.103892053
I want loads of gay buttsex with niggers and aids
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:47:00 No.103892058
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:47:37 No.103892066
>>103892029
you know p95 doesn't crash and it tells you on the logs if there is errors, right?
you know p95 doesn't crash and it tells you on the logs if there is errors, right?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:47:40 No.103892067
>>103892020
you're new to this overclocking thing, aren't you?
>>103892044
use occt just to waste 5 kWh and still crash in game?
you're new to this overclocking thing, aren't you?
>>103892044
use occt just to waste 5 kWh and still crash in game?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:47:59 No.103892069
>>103892029
>i ran p95 for 4 hours and nothing
you ran the wrong test
P95 stays in L3 cache with default settings
>i ran p95 for 4 hours and nothing
you ran the wrong test
P95 stays in L3 cache with default settings
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:48:11 No.103892071
>>103892003
Aren't cases usually overbuilt structurally. Like I could sit on mine and it wouldn't budge. I would remove that without worries.
Aren't cases usually overbuilt structurally. Like I could sit on mine and it wouldn't budge. I would remove that without worries.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:48:44 No.103892078
>>103892066
workers stopping is called a crash
workers stopping is called a crash
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:49:56 No.103892086
>>103892078
workers dont stop, they report error and then continue with another test
workers dont stop, they report error and then continue with another test
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:50:49 No.103892095
Need good m.2 ssd that will long me long time, 2tb dram etc.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:51:23 No.103892103
>>103892003
>he fell for the smol case meme
baka my dude, always get the biggest case you find in your price range
>he fell for the smol case meme
baka my dude, always get the biggest case you find in your price range
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:51:33 No.103892107
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:54:39 No.103892124
>y-y-y-you are wrrrorrwrong ppp prime 95 w-w-w-would insntnantlyy ded-d-dedetect prpr-problems!
shut the fuck up nigger or post right fucking now oc and tweak on your ram timings and if you do not do not bother replying fucking sick of freaks
shut the fuck up nigger or post right fucking now oc and tweak on your ram timings and if you do not do not bother replying fucking sick of freaks
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:55:36 No.103892135
>muh fake frames
is this an unironic AMD shill marketing line? i've seen it plastered all over the tech sub-reddits too
is this an unironic AMD shill marketing line? i've seen it plastered all over the tech sub-reddits too
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:56:47 No.103892145
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:57:11 No.103892151
>>103892124
who are you talking to
who are you talking to
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:57:44 No.103892157
>>103892135
its a combination of the 3rd world having access to internet and the mentally ill 1st worlders getting gibs that keep the alive so they spend their time spammming 4chan since they get banned from other platforms
its a combination of the 3rd world having access to internet and the mentally ill 1st worlders getting gibs that keep the alive so they spend their time spammming 4chan since they get banned from other platforms
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:57:56 No.103892163
>>103891928
it's crazy how people are hyping up this cpu to this point when most people are guaranteed to not be cpu limited anyway
I wouldn't be surprised if the next generation X3D launches at like $700 at this rate
it's crazy how people are hyping up this cpu to this point when most people are guaranteed to not be cpu limited anyway
I wouldn't be surprised if the next generation X3D launches at like $700 at this rate
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:58:37 No.103892167
Gay faggot buttsex.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:58:49 No.103892171
>>103892135
Yes, picrel is a literal poojeet with the same talking point
Yes, picrel is a literal poojeet with the same talking point
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:58:56 No.103892174
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:59:50 No.103892181
>>103892163
So glad I got my 7800X3D Microcenter bundle. I can wait until the 11800X3D launches on AM6 and get the 10700X3D for cheap in 2028.
So glad I got my 7800X3D Microcenter bundle. I can wait until the 11800X3D launches on AM6 and get the 10700X3D for cheap in 2028.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)11:59:59 No.103892184
>>103892163
the 3D cache itself will improve framerates regardless of CPU limiting
the 3D cache itself will improve framerates regardless of CPU limiting
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:00:43 No.103892194
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:01:40 No.103892207
>>103892194
SAAAAR I AM EXTREME OVERKLOKKER SAAR
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
you do not know shit about shit keep it at 1.5v lmfao
SAAAAR I AM EXTREME OVERKLOKKER SAAR
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
you do not know shit about shit keep it at 1.5v lmfao
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:02:08 No.103892209
>>103892171
>>103892135
They are fake frames. It's okay, you can say you enjoy fake frames. You probably like fake food as well.
>>103892135
They are fake frames. It's okay, you can say you enjoy fake frames. You probably like fake food as well.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:02:52 No.103892218
>>103892207
post a screenshot then lmao
post a screenshot then lmao
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:03:03 No.103892221
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:03:48 No.103892228
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:03:55 No.103892230
How do you take these sorts of bottom drive cages out? Case manual doesn't say shit and I don't see screws.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:04:13 No.103892234
>>103892163
pc gamers in the 20s are a bunch of suckers
pc gamers in the 20s are a bunch of suckers
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:05:50 No.103892248
>>103892221
Pretty sure HDR is broken on Intel GPUs
Pretty sure HDR is broken on Intel GPUs
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:06:57 No.103892257
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:07:00 No.103892259
>>103892163
>>103892184
X3D cpus allow you to set your GPUs pre-render limit to 1 without issue.
Other CPUs have issues and need to set it to 2 or 3 and that introduces input lag.
It's a well known thing with COD and why AMD is king there.
>>103892184
X3D cpus allow you to set your GPUs pre-render limit to 1 without issue.
Other CPUs have issues and need to set it to 2 or 3 and that introduces input lag.
It's a well known thing with COD and why AMD is king there.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:07:10 No.103892260
>>103892221
HDR looks like shit
HDR looks like shit
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:07:45 No.103892264
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:07:59 No.103892266
>>103892230
From the looks of it you don't but you have a fairly close up picture.
From the looks of it you don't but you have a fairly close up picture.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:08:56 No.103892277
>>103892264
its more about nvidia putting unreasonably amount of focus on rnding software and amd never had a chance to catch up
its more about nvidia putting unreasonably amount of focus on rnding software and amd never had a chance to catch up
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:09:36 No.103892285
>>103892264
I don't care about the XT but I'll go for the 9070 if it has same raster, better ray tracing and lower TDP than the GRE.
I don't care about the XT but I'll go for the 9070 if it has same raster, better ray tracing and lower TDP than the GRE.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:09:49 No.103892288
>>103892181
I don't even want to image the Am6 CPU costs
I don't even want to image the Am6 CPU costs
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:10:48 No.103892297
>>103892285
why not just get the 7900xt then?
why not just get the 7900xt then?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:11:10 No.103892298
>>103892228
lol the donkey talking about ears
lol the donkey talking about ears
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:11:29 No.103892301
9070xt performance news?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:13:02 No.103892312
>>103892301
it matches a 4070 ti so it will be competing against a 5070
it matches a 4070 ti so it will be competing against a 5070
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:13:17 No.103892317
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:15:02 No.103892330
Hope all Nvidia-enjoyers have spare houses.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:16:01 No.103892341
I still don't understand better cpu=more fps
Like if you got a high end cpu from the future.
could a the 4090 produce 1000 fps because of the cpu? Is there a fps limit to the gpu besides cpu?
also could you combine a 9800x3d with a 1070 to get even more fps?
Like if you got a high end cpu from the future.
could a the 4090 produce 1000 fps because of the cpu? Is there a fps limit to the gpu besides cpu?
also could you combine a 9800x3d with a 1070 to get even more fps?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:16:14 No.103892342
>>103892317
is there a good source for these numbers yet or is it still just hopium? 4080 super perrformance for $500 is nuts
is there a good source for these numbers yet or is it still just hopium? 4080 super perrformance for $500 is nuts
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:17:30 No.103892356
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:17:43 No.103892362
Did they release any info on the size of 5090 or 9080xt? I want to know what case to buy for them to fit.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:19:19 No.103892376
>>103892330
I hope we get to see a ZOTAC resurgence, the 980ti AMP! Extreme was the best card on the market and lasted me all the way to a 3090
I hope we get to see a ZOTAC resurgence, the 980ti AMP! Extreme was the best card on the market and lasted me all the way to a 3090
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:19:38 No.103892380
I know you can't mix and match PSU cables but can you use SATA cables from a different PC?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:20:24 No.103892388
>>103892380
Yes, SATA to SATA is standard.
Yes, SATA to SATA is standard.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:20:34 No.103892390
>>103892342
the leaks show the 9070xt faster than the 4080 super in timespy and thats with old as hell non optimized drivers.
the leaks show the 9070xt faster than the 4080 super in timespy and thats with old as hell non optimized drivers.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:20:41 No.103892393
>>103892380
yeah
even PSU cables are, for the most part, standard. some OEMs do bullshit to make them not but ATX is primarily a power supply standard
yeah
even PSU cables are, for the most part, standard. some OEMs do bullshit to make them not but ATX is primarily a power supply standard
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:23:44 No.103892426
>>103892341
you gpu runs on driver code
that driver code is executed on the cpu
a faster cpu can execute code faster
optimized code can execute even faster
you gpu runs on driver code
that driver code is executed on the cpu
a faster cpu can execute code faster
optimized code can execute even faster
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:24:28 No.103892433
>>103892393
>>103892388
My other question is I can see the PSU Lsocket cable to be used with my hard drive and SSD has multiple Lsocket ports, can I plug the same cable into multiple drives?
>>103892388
My other question is I can see the PSU Lsocket cable to be used with my hard drive and SSD has multiple Lsocket ports, can I plug the same cable into multiple drives?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:25:16 No.103892444
>>103892341
depends on the game and the resolution but in theory yes
although I find that at really high fps other autistic bottlenecks start to come into play like RAM
depends on the game and the resolution but in theory yes
although I find that at really high fps other autistic bottlenecks start to come into play like RAM
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:25:51 No.103892448
>>103892433
Yes, drives barely pull any power. The cable is made for that.
Yes, drives barely pull any power. The cable is made for that.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:26:31 No.103892452
>>103892277
>nvidia putting unreasonably amount of focus on rnding software
I don't think it's an unreasonable amount of focus. Nvidia is quite literally the only company pushing graphics and gaming tech forward (AMD sure as hell isn't, Microsoft isn't, Sony isn't, as conslows have been trash tier tech for a long time). Without Nvidia we probably wouldn't even have VRR to say nothing about new core types in consumer GPUs. Devs these can't use hardware for themselves, so they need Nvidia to hand them software like denoisers. Additionally, ML requires a massive compute for training, so a lot of these techniques would only be available to the biggest studios, engines, or publishers anyway
Max Blender performance wouldn't be as nearly good as pic related without AMD shuffling its feet behind Nvidia. Nvidia has been taking the lead (quite literally) by shouldering the burden of technologies like RT, which would require both hardware and software even if devs weren't completely retarded
>>103892301
Could be decent. Possibly nearly 7900 XTX in rasterization and 25% better in RT. FSR4 is also currently exclusive to RX 9000, which in and of itself (if FSR4 is even DLSS2 tier), could make the 9070 XT massively better than the 7900 XTX for gaming.
>nvidia putting unreasonably amount of focus on rnding software
I don't think it's an unreasonable amount of focus. Nvidia is quite literally the only company pushing graphics and gaming tech forward (AMD sure as hell isn't, Microsoft isn't, Sony isn't, as conslows have been trash tier tech for a long time). Without Nvidia we probably wouldn't even have VRR to say nothing about new core types in consumer GPUs. Devs these can't use hardware for themselves, so they need Nvidia to hand them software like denoisers. Additionally, ML requires a massive compute for training, so a lot of these techniques would only be available to the biggest studios, engines, or publishers anyway
Max Blender performance wouldn't be as nearly good as pic related without AMD shuffling its feet behind Nvidia. Nvidia has been taking the lead (quite literally) by shouldering the burden of technologies like RT, which would require both hardware and software even if devs weren't completely retarded
>>103892301
Could be decent. Possibly nearly 7900 XTX in rasterization and 25% better in RT. FSR4 is also currently exclusive to RX 9000, which in and of itself (if FSR4 is even DLSS2 tier), could make the 9070 XT massively better than the 7900 XTX for gaming.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:28:26 No.103892464
>>103892341
Yes but there is limits.
If you play a game and the cpu reaches ~100% usage, your cpu is the bottleneck.
If you play a game and the gpu reaches ~100% then the gpu is the bottleneck.
At low resolutions, your gpu is used less taxing your cpu more.
At very high resolutions, your gpu is used more probably being the limiting factor on the fps.
Its a weird balance.
Yes but there is limits.
If you play a game and the cpu reaches ~100% usage, your cpu is the bottleneck.
If you play a game and the gpu reaches ~100% then the gpu is the bottleneck.
At low resolutions, your gpu is used less taxing your cpu more.
At very high resolutions, your gpu is used more probably being the limiting factor on the fps.
Its a weird balance.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:29:13 No.103892474
>>103892341
it's like a pensioner in a ferrari, yeah they're sitting in a boatload of horsepower, but if it takes them a while to turn the wheel then the car ain't hitting that apex
(pensioner=cpu, turning_wheel=instruction, car=gpu, apex=next frame)
it's like a pensioner in a ferrari, yeah they're sitting in a boatload of horsepower, but if it takes them a while to turn the wheel then the car ain't hitting that apex
(pensioner=cpu, turning_wheel=instruction, car=gpu, apex=next frame)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:30:08 No.103892480
I am building a PC after some 6-7 years, and did most of my research. The parts I went with are listed in the part picker build below (all are already bought):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gRcW9C
I'm just a bit confused when it comes to cooling and a PC case. I see a lot of mixed recommends based on water cooling vs regular air cooling. My concerns with air cooling are, even if I prefer it that basically the 1300 grams would sag the cpu/motherboard over time, so I believe that it's safer to go with water cooling. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I don't have much experience with this. Additionally, no clue which case has best airflow. Is H5/H7 NZXT any good? I got this recommended from a friend, but again I have no clue what is good or not, so figured I'd ask people that enjoy doing this.
Thanks in advance and the help is more than appreciated!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gRcW9
I'm just a bit confused when it comes to cooling and a PC case. I see a lot of mixed recommends based on water cooling vs regular air cooling. My concerns with air cooling are, even if I prefer it that basically the 1300 grams would sag the cpu/motherboard over time, so I believe that it's safer to go with water cooling. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I don't have much experience with this. Additionally, no clue which case has best airflow. Is H5/H7 NZXT any good? I got this recommended from a friend, but again I have no clue what is good or not, so figured I'd ask people that enjoy doing this.
Thanks in advance and the help is more than appreciated!
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:30:10 No.103892481
>>103892341
CPU can be a proper bottleneck at low resolution (because the GPU can theoretically reach meme frame rates the CPU can't keep up with) but more importantly uneven CPU utilisation can cause dropped frames if doesn't have the headroom to handle demand spikes, which translates into microstutter and is somewhat measured with the 1% low fps metric.
CPU can be a proper bottleneck at low resolution (because the GPU can theoretically reach meme frame rates the CPU can't keep up with) but more importantly uneven CPU utilisation can cause dropped frames if doesn't have the headroom to handle demand spikes, which translates into microstutter and is somewhat measured with the 1% low fps metric.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:30:30 No.103892488
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:31:12 No.103892499
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:32:19 No.103892515
Can't wait to buy my 5090 then upgrade my CPU later this year.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:33:39 No.103892530
>>103892488
HDR isn't specific to OLED
HDR isn't specific to OLED
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:34:31 No.103892542
>>103892362
Some manufacturers have uploaded the product pages so you can check out the dimensions. I know Gigabyte did.
Some manufacturers have uploaded the product pages so you can check out the dimensions. I know Gigabyte did.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:37:57 No.103892586
>WOLED is dead
>QDOLED monitors have firmware jank still and is a bit suspect
>the only buyable tv in eu is a 65" S90D
maybe if the S90F series will come in qdoled in 55 and 77 it might be the time to take the tv pill with a 77" or heck even a 55"
or a 65" if it gets discounted even more
these shits are fucking expensive still
this or I go back to IPS
>>103892488
I tried hdr on qdoled monitor and I still don't get it if its supposed to look better
I have no idea.....
>QDOLED monitors have firmware jank still and is a bit suspect
>the only buyable tv in eu is a 65" S90D
maybe if the S90F series will come in qdoled in 55 and 77 it might be the time to take the tv pill with a 77" or heck even a 55"
or a 65" if it gets discounted even more
these shits are fucking expensive still
this or I go back to IPS
>>103892488
I tried hdr on qdoled monitor and I still don't get it if its supposed to look better
I have no idea.....
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:38:07 No.103892588
>>103892530
Every other implementation outside of high end miniLED above a specific size suck though.
Every other implementation outside of high end miniLED above a specific size suck though.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:39:54 No.103892608
>>103892135
i like my images lossless, i bet you have .jpeg anime pictures saved on your computer, FAGGOT
i like my images lossless, i bet you have .jpeg anime pictures saved on your computer, FAGGOT
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:39:55 No.103892609
>>103892341
>also could you combine a 9800x3d with a 1070 to get even more fps?
Not usually because much slower CPUs can already push a 1070 to its limit except in special cases. There are certainly games where a even a 9800X3D is the limit (i.e., developers are retarded and have extremely inefficient NPC code), like Stalker 2. High end graphics cards can easily outstrip the best CPUs in that game
Sometimes you have added problems where the game's code interferes with the driver, and/or there's some problem with the driver, like Radeon's DX11 driver, which is singlethreaded and therefore cripples Radeon in a lot of games.
>>103892135
It's not marketing, it's cope. It's sour grapes syndrome. They have all kinds of copes like CAS, RIS, and Lossless >>103891843 as well
>also could you combine a 9800x3d with a 1070 to get even more fps?
Not usually because much slower CPUs can already push a 1070 to its limit except in special cases. There are certainly games where a even a 9800X3D is the limit (i.e., developers are retarded and have extremely inefficient NPC code), like Stalker 2. High end graphics cards can easily outstrip the best CPUs in that game
Sometimes you have added problems where the game's code interferes with the driver, and/or there's some problem with the driver, like Radeon's DX11 driver, which is singlethreaded and therefore cripples Radeon in a lot of games.
>>103892135
It's not marketing, it's cope. It's sour grapes syndrome. They have all kinds of copes like CAS, RIS, and Lossless >>103891843 as well
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:41:29 No.103892633
>>103891813
>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow
>GPU
1080p: Arc B580, RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RX 7800 XT, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
4K: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX, RTX 4090
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards
>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F
Mid Range: 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)
Just posting it here so when OP's faggotry gets tiresome people don't have to go all the way back three days ago to find the actual recommendations.
>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow
>GPU
1080p: Arc B580, RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RX 7800 XT, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
4K: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX, RTX 4090
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards
>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F
Mid Range: 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
Just posting it here so when OP's faggotry gets tiresome people don't have to go all the way back three days ago to find the actual recommendations.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:41:52 No.103892640
>>103892426
>>103892444
>>103892464
>>103892474
>>103892481
ok I think I understand it now. thanks for the explanation
>>103892444
>>103892464
>>103892474
>>103892481
ok I think I understand it now. thanks for the explanation
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:43:10 No.103892655
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:43:24 No.103892657
>>103892608
DLSS means ENHANCED, faggot. Always better to turn whatever resolution you can run into a higher resolution with DLSS
>>103892633
>actual recommendations
>listing last gen graphics cards on the cusp of a new generation
>listing trash tier radeon graphics cards
No
DLSS means ENHANCED, faggot. Always better to turn whatever resolution you can run into a higher resolution with DLSS
>>103892633
>actual recommendations
>listing last gen graphics cards on the cusp of a new generation
>listing trash tier radeon graphics cards
No
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:45:08 No.103892669
Is 289 the cheapest the 12900k ever going to be again? I'm getting real tired of my 10900k being incompatible with all new NVME drives.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:47:07 No.103892689
>>103892376
>Zotac
Yeah the same company that produced my 4090 that broke after 2 months, RMA'd and got another 4090 which broke again after 2 and a half months and now I had to send to RMA AGAIN. Motherfuckers better give me a 5090 as at this point, tired of shipping their shitty ass 4090s to commiefornia for RMA.
>Zotac
Yeah the same company that produced my 4090 that broke after 2 months, RMA'd and got another 4090 which broke again after 2 and a half months and now I had to send to RMA AGAIN. Motherfuckers better give me a 5090 as at this point, tired of shipping their shitty ass 4090s to commiefornia for RMA.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:47:09 No.103892690
>>103892499
why only mmos?
why only mmos?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:48:29 No.103892702
>>103892586
It's all stopgap tech, true RGB layout OLED is coming.
It's all stopgap tech, true RGB layout OLED is coming.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:49:06 No.103892705
>>103892689
They nosedived after the 900 series
They nosedived after the 900 series
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:49:59 No.103892716
>>103892690
MMOs tend to be more CPU heavy than GPU heavy. Take World of Warcraft for instance, its a old as hell game graphics wise but it can still be CPU intensive due to all the addons and player count.
MMOs tend to be more CPU heavy than GPU heavy. Take World of Warcraft for instance, its a old as hell game graphics wise but it can still be CPU intensive due to all the addons and player count.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:50:02 No.103892717
>>103892586
For monitor use?
For monitor use?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:50:52 No.103892722
More DLSS titles
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:51:22 No.103892731
>>103892341
With a CPU bottleneck, you lose even average FPS, going above CPU bottleneck in CPU performance, still helps .1% and 1% figures.
With a CPU bottleneck, you lose even average FPS, going above CPU bottleneck in CPU performance, still helps .1% and 1% figures.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:52:31 No.103892739
>>103892655
It's still avaliable in my region.
It's still avaliable in my region.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:53:11 No.103892749
>>103892722
>honkai star rail
weird, I feel like you could max that out even on a 2060 but I could be wrong
>honkai star rail
weird, I feel like you could max that out even on a 2060 but I could be wrong
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:53:23 No.103892751
>>103892722
DLSS features are always nice to have, unless the game relies on them entirely for performance.
DLSS features are always nice to have, unless the game relies on them entirely for performance.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:53:23 No.103892752
>>103892669
Trying to reuse your DDR4 or something? I can't imagine wanting a 12900K
>>103892722
Almost every game comes with DLSS. It's default at this point.
Trying to reuse your DDR4 or something? I can't imagine wanting a 12900K
>>103892722
Almost every game comes with DLSS. It's default at this point.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:54:23 No.103892763
>>103892749
There's more to DLSS than upscaling or framegen, you realize that? DLAA, Reflex.
There's more to DLSS than upscaling or framegen, you realize that? DLAA, Reflex.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:55:37 No.103892776
>>103892669
>10900k being incompatible with all new NVME drives.
You realize you can run PCIe 5 in a PCIe 3 slot?
>10900k being incompatible with all new NVME drives.
You realize you can run PCIe 5 in a PCIe 3 slot?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:57:46 No.103892811
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:58:19 No.103892816
>>103892749
its on unity engine and i feel like at this point its like a default plugin like unreal engine. doesn't really require dev effort when they drag & drop.
its on unity engine and i feel like at this point its like a default plugin like unreal engine. doesn't really require dev effort when they drag & drop.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:59:33 No.103892838
9800x3d secured
now i have to wait like a month and a half
now i have to wait like a month and a half
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:59:58 No.103892846
>>103892135
AI generated frames will be the realiest of real frames anyone has ever seen
AI generated frames will be the realiest of real frames anyone has ever seen
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:00:59 No.103892859
>>103892838
just in time for monster hunter wilds.
just in time for monster hunter wilds.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:01:21 No.103892864
>>103892480
Dont buy winblows. Go to /fwt/. Unless you shit money. Looka pretty neat. Will you overclock? Why SSDs?
t. Poorfag
Dont buy winblows. Go to /fwt/. Unless you shit money. Looka pretty neat. Will you overclock? Why SSDs?
t. Poorfag
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:02:30 No.103892881
>>103892095
anyone?
anyone?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:02:42 No.103892885
Looking to upgrade from 1050ti and will pair it with Ryzen 5 5600x for the foreseeable future. Max budget is $500 but not sure I need to spend that much to see a noticeable improvement.
Guessing I should wait for the announced gen to be released and see what the most value is but curious to see if you think I should consider used options once the new ones are out.
Guessing I should wait for the announced gen to be released and see what the most value is but curious to see if you think I should consider used options once the new ones are out.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:03:15 No.103892892
Good time to upgrade my AM4 3070ti build to AM5 5080?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:04:16 No.103892910
>https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/2364cea
This just in
>S90F only 65" will be qdoled in Europe again
No other glossy qdoled tv worth again
It's over again
This just in
>S90F only 65" will be qdoled in Europe again
No other glossy qdoled tv worth again
It's over again
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:05:07 No.103892923
>>103892892
No, wait for AM6 and 60 series.
No, wait for AM6 and 60 series.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:05:09 No.103892924
>>103892811
What do you need the full speed of PCIe 4 or 5 for in a SSD?
What do you need the full speed of PCIe 4 or 5 for in a SSD?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:06:13 No.103892936
>>103892864
Oh, I am not buying it. I'll probably get some LTSC unlocked thing. Probably should remove that, my bad.
Nah, from what I looked at graphs, no significant gain really. I love gaming, but honestly more than 60fps/60hz, my eyes start getting dry and there's this stinging pain in the sides... so I just got that monitor. Would be using that PC for a mix of work and gaming.
As for the SSDs/NVMEs, aside from the 2TB NVME, the others are from my old PC. I need big data for video editing projects and other stuff, as well. I had 2 HDD die on me within a year and a half, so I stopped using them. Realistically, if I didn't need it for work, I probably wouldn't upgrade, lol. My current build is like DDR4 64GB RAM, i5-10600k, GTX 1660 Super and I'm happy with it for personal use.
Oh, I am not buying it. I'll probably get some LTSC unlocked thing. Probably should remove that, my bad.
Nah, from what I looked at graphs, no significant gain really. I love gaming, but honestly more than 60fps/60hz, my eyes start getting dry and there's this stinging pain in the sides... so I just got that monitor. Would be using that PC for a mix of work and gaming.
As for the SSDs/NVMEs, aside from the 2TB NVME, the others are from my old PC. I need big data for video editing projects and other stuff, as well. I had 2 HDD die on me within a year and a half, so I stopped using them. Realistically, if I didn't need it for work, I probably wouldn't upgrade, lol. My current build is like DDR4 64GB RAM, i5-10600k, GTX 1660 Super and I'm happy with it for personal use.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:06:15 No.103892938
>>103892924
benchmarks lul
benchmarks lul
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:07:41 No.103892962
>>103892924
lightning fast transfer speeds when i store my reaction imgs in my dram cache
lightning fast transfer speeds when i store my reaction imgs in my dram cache
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:07:52 No.103892965
OHNONONO Amdsisters, not like this
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:08:02 No.103892967
>>103892924
Well why buy a PCIe 4 or 5 if you only have a PCIe 3 slot?
Well why buy a PCIe 4 or 5 if you only have a PCIe 3 slot?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:08:33 No.103892975
>>103892480
Go with a Arctic LF III for cooling, good fit for a 9800X3D, specially with PBO2.
Go with a Arctic LF III for cooling, good fit for a 9800X3D, specially with PBO2.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:09:44 No.103892983
>>103892967
Futureproof, pricing, availability and you still get the benefit of the faster controller, even with PCIe 3.
When you eventually do upgrade, you can reuse the SSDs.
Futureproof, pricing, availability and you still get the benefit of the faster controller, even with PCIe 3.
When you eventually do upgrade, you can reuse the SSDs.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:10:46 No.103892997
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:10:54 No.103892999
is it worth going from a 5900x to a 9800x3d if i 4k game?
my own conclusion is it will barely be an uplift which is wild to me because the 5900x is starting to get old. or am i reading wrong things?
my own conclusion is it will barely be an uplift which is wild to me because the 5900x is starting to get old. or am i reading wrong things?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:10:56 No.103893000
Will SSDs ever achieve parity in $/TB with HDDs in our lifetime? 1TB SATA SSD's like the MX500 still go for $70, 4TB SSD's regardless if SATA/NVME go for $250ish. Meanwhile you can get HDD's with 4x that capacity for around the same price.
>t. hoarder wondering where the hell to segregate his programs/games
>t. hoarder wondering where the hell to segregate his programs/games
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:11:13 No.103893006
>>103892702
Qdoled is already rgb
LGs attempt is coming soon maybe
You already have 160ppi qdoled on PC
And don't act like to matters on huge tvs
>>103892717
If you are tvpilled yeah
Qdoled is already rgb
LGs attempt is coming soon maybe
You already have 160ppi qdoled on PC
And don't act like to matters on huge tvs
>>103892717
If you are tvpilled yeah
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:11:33 No.103893012
>>103892965
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-3dmark-leak-3-0-ghz-330w-tbp-faster-than-rtx-4080-super-in-timespy-and-4070-ti-in-speed-way
3 ghz BOOST
beating the 4080 super
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rad
3 ghz BOOST
beating the 4080 super
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:12:23 No.103893022
>>103892103
Mate I bought this case literally 10 years ago and nothing has 5.25" drives anymore.
Plus it isn't even a small case. It's just a fixed HDD cage in the way. The 500r has a removable cage and can fit 452mm GPUs which is bigger than anything I'd reasonably get.
Mate I bought this case literally 10 years ago and nothing has 5.25" drives anymore.
Plus it isn't even a small case. It's just a fixed HDD cage in the way. The 500r has a removable cage and can fit 452mm GPUs which is bigger than anything I'd reasonably get.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:12:36 No.103893025
>>103892999
In cpu limited games yes
In cpu limited games yes
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:12:44 No.103893029
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:13:07 No.103893032
>>103893025
poe2?
poe2?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:13:46 No.103893044
>>103892752
>on actually looks worse
lol
and yeah, it's just a feature of UE4 now and 99% of games coming out are made on that
>on actually looks worse
lol
and yeah, it's just a feature of UE4 now and 99% of games coming out are made on that
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:14:35 No.103893054
>>103893006
Just get a 42" C4 if you want to use a TV, WOLED isn't really a problem and QD-OLED has it's own problems.
Otherwise wait for better offers, LG will bring out a RGB OLED panel this year, at least it's in their roadmap. But C4 exists now and is cheap.
Just get a 42" C4 if you want to use a TV, WOLED isn't really a problem and QD-OLED has it's own problems.
Otherwise wait for better offers, LG will bring out a RGB OLED panel this year, at least it's in their roadmap. But C4 exists now and is cheap.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:15:09 No.103893062
>>103892752
>reuse DDR4
No, just want a step up that isn't the 14900k timebomb.
>>103892776
I was going to do that but the headache introduced by then having to deal with it isn't worth it to me.
>reuse DDR4
No, just want a step up that isn't the 14900k timebomb.
>>103892776
I was going to do that but the headache introduced by then having to deal with it isn't worth it to me.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:15:21 No.103893066
>>103893029
Doesn't matter when it's already solved
>>103893032
Is it? 5000 series isn't fast so most likely y
Doesn't matter when it's already solved
>>103893032
Is it? 5000 series isn't fast so most likely y
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:15:24 No.103893068
does dram still matter for 7000+MBps PCIe4 drives?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:16:09 No.103893073
>>103893022
>and nothing has 5.25" drives anymore.
Where the fuck does this meme come from? We literally have 10 threads a month disproving this when someone cries about no case options.
Stop looking up gaymer RGB shit, there's plenty of options outside that.
>and nothing has 5.25" drives anymore.
Where the fuck does this meme come from? We literally have 10 threads a month disproving this when someone cries about no case options.
Stop looking up gaymer RGB shit, there's plenty of options outside that.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:17:03 No.103893085
Will this burn my motherboard?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:17:12 No.103893090
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:18:07 No.103893097
do not worry bros, I got ya!
I will buy your used roastie 4090s for 600 (only the ones with warranty)
I will buy your used roastie 4090s for 600 (only the ones with warranty)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:18:36 No.103893108
>>103893062
>I was going to do that but the headache introduced by then having to deal with it isn't worth it to me.
What headache? It just works.
>>103893068
Yes. But almost all modern NVMe drives without onboard DRAM use HBM, stealing a bit of your system RAM.
The memory isn't there for storage cache, it's to load a map of the data in the NAND for the controller, people seem to confuse that.
>I was going to do that but the headache introduced by then having to deal with it isn't worth it to me.
What headache? It just works.
>>103893068
Yes. But almost all modern NVMe drives without onboard DRAM use HBM, stealing a bit of your system RAM.
The memory isn't there for storage cache, it's to load a map of the data in the NAND for the controller, people seem to confuse that.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:19:08 No.103893113
>>103893085
ewww. what is that brother. ewwww.
ewww. what is that brother. ewwww.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:19:18 No.103893116
>>103893085
it's just plastic, fire needs air, fuel and ignition
it's just plastic, fire needs air, fuel and ignition
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:20:00 No.103893126
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:20:54 No.103893136
>>103893126
always a digit below, too
always a digit below, too
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:22:37 No.103893163
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:24:06 No.103893183
>>103892936
Aight. I wouldn't get that monster mobo if not overclocking. The rest is fine I guess.
I've no additional comments.
Aight. I wouldn't get that monster mobo if not overclocking. The rest is fine I guess.
I've no additional comments.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:24:31 No.103893189
How is this bare mobo:
>Asus Z97 Extreme6
>up to DDR3-3200
>lga 1150
>haswell(-R) / broadwell
>most populer cpu 4790k
Too old?
>Asus Z97 Extreme6
>up to DDR3-3200
>lga 1150
>haswell(-R) / broadwell
>most populer cpu 4790k
Too old?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:28:19 No.103893242
>>103893136
and half the price
and half the price
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:28:55 No.103893251
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:29:25 No.103893258
>>103893183
Thank you for the feedback! I mainly bought it for the build components, aka thermal reduction, heatsinks etc. Trying to make the thing last longer, if I am paying a lot of money, that's about it lol.
Thank you for the feedback! I mainly bought it for the build components, aka thermal reduction, heatsinks etc. Trying to make the thing last longer, if I am paying a lot of money, that's about it lol.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:30:14 No.103893270
>>103892892
Update BIOS, drop in 5700X3D, in that order.
RTX 5070 Ti unless you have an interest in path tracing
>>103893000
I wouldn't worry about SSD for archival storage. I have 3x 8 TB HGST HDDs in fault tolerant RAID as my main archive of games, movies, music, ebooks, etc. If you hold your breath waiting for the same value per TB from SSDs, you won't see it in your lifetime
>>103893044
Retards always say shit like this. If you don't like the art, fine, but the tech is clearly far superior with RTX Skin
Update BIOS, drop in 5700X3D, in that order.
RTX 5070 Ti unless you have an interest in path tracing
>>103893000
I wouldn't worry about SSD for archival storage. I have 3x 8 TB HGST HDDs in fault tolerant RAID as my main archive of games, movies, music, ebooks, etc. If you hold your breath waiting for the same value per TB from SSDs, you won't see it in your lifetime
>>103893044
Retards always say shit like this. If you don't like the art, fine, but the tech is clearly far superior with RTX Skin
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:31:10 No.103893285
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:31:10 No.103893286
you know im thinking of just buying a laptop instead
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:31:38 No.103893292
>>103893251
Just put this fucking connector on the back of the board already
Just put this fucking connector on the back of the board already
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:33:55 No.103893320
>>103893270
the tech here has completely eliminated any actual semblance of texture and turned everything into a smooth clay/wax figure
the tech here has completely eliminated any actual semblance of texture and turned everything into a smooth clay/wax figure
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:35:31 No.103893345
>>103893292
I'm not going to mod my old motherboard to solder backwards connector.
I'm not going to mod my old motherboard to solder backwards connector.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:35:42 No.103893349
>>103893242
>half the price
6700 XT was nearly the 3070's MSRP
Could barely even match the 3060 Ti if you completely gimped the Geforce card (no DLSS or RT)
If you honestly believe that Radeon has been a better value than Geforce since RX 5000, you're retarded.
>>103893320
That's not what's happening. The light is diffusing through the headcrab. In fact the headcrab on the left looks much more waxy
>half the price
6700 XT was nearly the 3070's MSRP
Could barely even match the 3060 Ti if you completely gimped the Geforce card (no DLSS or RT)
If you honestly believe that Radeon has been a better value than Geforce since RX 5000, you're retarded.
>>103893320
That's not what's happening. The light is diffusing through the headcrab. In fact the headcrab on the left looks much more waxy
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:35:59 No.103893355
>>103893320
There is actual depth in the RT image because shadows are cast correctly
There is actual depth in the RT image because shadows are cast correctly
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:35:59 No.103893356
All of my drives are showing up in system status but I can't see how I'm supposed to choose a specific drive as my boot drive (I'm using my old Windows boot drive in a new PC)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:36:43 No.103893369
>>103893286
You can have both.
You can have both.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:37:07 No.103893373
>>103893356
Disconnect all but the boot drive
Disconnect all but the boot drive
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:37:45 No.103893381
Why are 5090 benchmark embargos ending before the 5080 benchmark embargos? Isn't the 5090 going to come out a few days after the 5080?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:37:54 No.103893382
>>103893183
That's a pretty cheap X870 board though, I wouldn't go any lower.
That's a pretty cheap X870 board though, I wouldn't go any lower.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:38:18 No.103893384
>>103893381
That indicates the 5080 is trash
That indicates the 5080 is trash
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:38:25 No.103893385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLxVskv2zs0
HIS GPU DOESN'T HAVE NEURAL RENDERING
NGMI
HIS GPU DOESN'T HAVE NEURAL RENDERING
NGMI
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:39:04 No.103893392
>>103893183
Where is he gonna put all the M.2 SSDs then?
Where is he gonna put all the M.2 SSDs then?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:39:18 No.103893395
>>103893356
disconnect all drives, keep the one you want windows on connected and only connect them all back after windows is installed
disconnect all drives, keep the one you want windows on connected and only connect them all back after windows is installed
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:39:25 No.103893398
>>103893385
It'll be interesting to see how soon TOPs make a difference
It'll be interesting to see how soon TOPs make a difference
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:43:13 No.103893432
55 minutes new leak from MLID
https://youtu.be/WP3wfZ6LRlQ?t=3380
>Seen an internal report on RDNA4 performance
>Latest briefing he's seen from a month ago 9070 XT was only 7 percent slower then 7900 XTX in raster
>Between 4070 ti and 4070 ti super in RT
THANK YOU LISA. RADEON BROS WE WON
https://youtu.be/WP3wfZ6LRlQ?t=3380
>Seen an internal report on RDNA4 performance
>Latest briefing he's seen from a month ago 9070 XT was only 7 percent slower then 7900 XTX in raster
>Between 4070 ti and 4070 ti super in RT
THANK YOU LISA. RADEON BROS WE WON
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:45:45 No.103893451
>>103893432
>retarded anime avatarfag is a m**d subscriber
Checks out. He's just posting what everyone already knew, as usual, after he posted wrong speculation repeatedly running up to launch
>retarded anime avatarfag is a m**d subscriber
Checks out. He's just posting what everyone already knew, as usual, after he posted wrong speculation repeatedly running up to launch
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:48:42 No.103893482
>>103893073
>Where the fuck does this meme come from?
Gee i don't know, maybe from 95% of cases having no 5.25" drives? At Microcenter right now there's a whopping 2 cases with 1x5.25" and 3 cases with 2x5.25" and they're all dogshit. Really the only option I see is the Fractal Design Pop Air.
Can you tell me a case that has 3x5.25" drives and airflow that isn't absolutely anemic?
>Where the fuck does this meme come from?
Gee i don't know, maybe from 95% of cases having no 5.25" drives? At Microcenter right now there's a whopping 2 cases with 1x5.25" and 3 cases with 2x5.25" and they're all dogshit. Really the only option I see is the Fractal Design Pop Air.
Can you tell me a case that has 3x5.25" drives and airflow that isn't absolutely anemic?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:56:55 No.103893566
>>103893292
asus btf already do that
asus btf already do that
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:57:50 No.103893577
>>103893381
They want to make sure the 5080 has as little time to develop a reputation as possible before people buy it.
They want to make sure the 5080 has as little time to develop a reputation as possible before people buy it.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:58:15 No.103893579
>>103893432
Won what? The anticipation price?
Won what? The anticipation price?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:01:07 No.103893602
>>103893432
Sounds like it would have been a good card if it had vram
Sounds like it would have been a good card if it had vram
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:02:30 No.103893613
>>103893602
lmao mad nvidiot
lmao mad nvidiot
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:05:12 No.103893642
I got sick of Waiting(TM) so I bought a Strix 2080Ti to replace my 970.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:06:09 No.103893651
>>103893602
>>103893613
I see there's fighting within the ranks of AMDelusionals. Who will win? The VRAMemers or the Mamma Su can do nothing wrong because she's not Jensen crowd?
>>103893613
I see there's fighting within the ranks of AMDelusionals. Who will win? The VRAMemers or the Mamma Su can do nothing wrong because she's not Jensen crowd?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:12:48 No.103893713
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:16:09 No.103893745
Just use DLSS
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:18:07 No.103893765
>>103893651
Whats with the hate against amd and nvidia? Can't we look at it objectively?
Whats with the hate against amd and nvidia? Can't we look at it objectively?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:20:10 No.103893782
>muh shaders
time for shaders is over
time for shaders is over
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:20:25 No.103893786
>>103893602
16 gigs is fine for 1440p which is what this card is for. You are a trolling nvidiot
16 gigs is fine for 1440p which is what this card is for. You are a trolling nvidiot
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:24:23 No.103893831
once the new cards come out and while there are still older cards in the market do you think their prices will be lower?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:25:23 No.103893842
one day all raster cores will be removed and only rt cores will be on the chip
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:25:28 No.103893843
>>103893745
dlss only does so much for performance
breaches still tank fps even with dynamic resolution and dlss enabled
dlss only does so much for performance
breaches still tank fps even with dynamic resolution and dlss enabled
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:25:45 No.103893851
>>103893831
depends if the new cards are any good
they could go up in value is the 50 series doesn't deliver
depends if the new cards are any good
they could go up in value is the 50 series doesn't deliver
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:25:59 No.103893854
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:26:33 No.103893860
i ordered a pg lightning for 170 euros not realizing that b850 is coming out, do i need pcie 5.0 that bad if i won't even buy a 5080
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:26:39 No.103893861
9800X3D's have been in stock since launch in Europe but the prices are high. Getting paranoid about stock drying up after 50-series launches. Is the 9800X3D availability really that poor in the US that you have to wait like a month for it to arrive? Last thing I need is my entire build being delayed because this dumb CPU isn't available two weeks from now.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:27:29 No.103893874
>>103893713
star wars slave 1
star wars slave 1
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:27:50 No.103893877
>>103893861
I can buy one now and have it arrive in 3 days, retail... at 700€ that is.
I can buy one now and have it arrive in 3 days, retail... at 700€ that is.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:27:56 No.103893880
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:28:30 No.103893885
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:28:44 No.103893889
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:29:22 No.103893893
>>103893885
True, but id buy a 9070xt if its like 450 bucks
True, but id buy a 9070xt if its like 450 bucks
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:29:54 No.103893896
>>103893861
AMD explained it takes them about 4 MONTHS to create new batches of 9800X3Ds and they were also undersupplied because they didn't know they'd sell so many because they didn't know Intel would be so trash.
The prices are gonna stay high for months.
AMD explained it takes them about 4 MONTHS to create new batches of 9800X3Ds and they were also undersupplied because they didn't know they'd sell so many because they didn't know Intel would be so trash.
The prices are gonna stay high for months.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:30:54 No.103893905
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:32:15 No.103893922
amazon has the 9800x3d "in stock" right now
"in stock" being you can place your order now and in a month or two you will get it
but its sold and shipped by amazon and is msrp
"in stock" being you can place your order now and in a month or two you will get it
but its sold and shipped by amazon and is msrp
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:32:22 No.103893923
>>103893786
Okay so there must be a version with more vram then ...
Okay so there must be a version with more vram then ...
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:32:27 No.103893926
>>103891813
anyone know where I can buy 140mm anti vibration fan gaskets? been looking everywhere but apparently nobody in the US sells them.
anyone know where I can buy 140mm anti vibration fan gaskets? been looking everywhere but apparently nobody in the US sells them.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:34:39 No.103893955
>>103893889
>swing mouse so wildly
>that two frames at 120FPS is a 180
>LOOK GUISE ARTIFACTS
I get it, you're suffering from a severe case of sour grapes and you're trying to soothe the butthurt, but go cry in a different thread
>swing mouse so wildly
>that two frames at 120FPS is a 180
>LOOK GUISE ARTIFACTS
I get it, you're suffering from a severe case of sour grapes and you're trying to soothe the butthurt, but go cry in a different thread
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:35:48 No.103893971
>PCI-Express x16 1.1.
Huh?
Huh?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:36:22 No.103893978
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:36:48 No.103893985
>>103893955
If you have artifacts it means something fucked up. Not a problem with real rendering. Cope harder.
If you have artifacts it means something fucked up. Not a problem with real rendering. Cope harder.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:38:06 No.103894001
IT'S OUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKbFBgNuEOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKb
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:38:28 No.103894003
>>103893955
>please don’t move your mouse
OH NO NO NO
> severe case of sour grapes
Kinda funny, since your 4070 can’t run DLSS FG anymore because of VRAM overflow, KEK
>please don’t move your mouse
OH NO NO NO
> severe case of sour grapes
Kinda funny, since your 4070 can’t run DLSS FG anymore because of VRAM overflow, KEK
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:39:20 No.103894022
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:40:42 No.103894039
>>103893896
Yea I don't mind the 9800X3D being more expensive, I just don't want it to run out of stock right when the 50-series launches and then having to wait months for that piece of shit to be restocked.
Yea I don't mind the 9800X3D being more expensive, I just don't want it to run out of stock right when the 50-series launches and then having to wait months for that piece of shit to be restocked.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:44:29 No.103894098
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:45:36 No.103894117
>>103893985
Yeah, you need Radeon if you have Parkinson's
Heard it here first, folks. Radeon is the Parkinson's suffer's graphics card
>>103894003
>first ever fg game
>i-i-it's not p-p-p-perfect in fast moving scenes
>F-F-FRAME G-G-G-GEN WILL ALWAYS BE BAD, OK-K-KAY
>For the testing below we picked a difficult scenario--gameplay at 1080p, so it's easier to see small differences, and running at low FPS, which makes the difference between frames bigger, so the Frame Generation algorithm has to work even harder.
>It's really hard to spot any differences, even at reduced playback speed. The barbed wire on top of the walls is challenging for DLSS 3, and some minor artifacts are visible behind moving cars in the background, but nothing you'd notice during normal gameplay. Movement appears MUCH smoother due to the higher framerate
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition/35.html
Lot of data on that page, and none of it agrees with you
Yeah, you need Radeon if you have Parkinson's
Heard it here first, folks. Radeon is the Parkinson's suffer's graphics card
>>103894003
>first ever fg game
>i-i-it's not p-p-p-perfect in fast moving scenes
>F-F-FRAME G-G-G-GEN WILL ALWAYS BE BAD, OK-K-KAY
>For the testing below we picked a difficult scenario--gameplay at 1080p, so it's easier to see small differences, and running at low FPS, which makes the difference between frames bigger, so the Frame Generation algorithm has to work even harder.
>It's really hard to spot any differences, even at reduced playback speed. The barbed wire on top of the walls is challenging for DLSS 3, and some minor artifacts are visible behind moving cars in the background, but nothing you'd notice during normal gameplay. Movement appears MUCH smoother due to the higher framerate
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
Lot of data on that page, and none of it agrees with you
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:47:45 No.103894146
>>103892722
I ask mihoyo to add multiple upscalling like a year ago (zzz include), they finally put upscalling into hsr.
Too bad genshin still stuck at fsr2.
I ask mihoyo to add multiple upscalling like a year ago (zzz include), they finally put upscalling into hsr.
Too bad genshin still stuck at fsr2.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:49:30 No.103894168
>>103894117
>point out smeary shit is smeary and looks uglier than motion blur ever did
>randomly brings up radeon shit out of nowhere
???????????
>point out smeary shit is smeary and looks uglier than motion blur ever did
>randomly brings up radeon shit out of nowhere
???????????
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:52:37 No.103894201
>>103894168
>insert yourself in a radeon troll reply chain
>surprised when radeon gets brought up
Your brain needs an oil change
It's clear you've never used DLSS FG
>insert yourself in a radeon troll reply chain
>surprised when radeon gets brought up
Your brain needs an oil change
It's clear you've never used DLSS FG
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:53:44 No.103894212
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)14:54:09 No.103894221
>>103894117
>massive wall of copium
>rtx-4070-founders
BWAHAHAHAHAHA, I guess this was the promotional article that got you to buy this 12GB meme and now this article is the only thing you have left
>massive wall of copium
>rtx-4070-founders
BWAHAHAHAHAHA, I guess this was the promotional article that got you to buy this 12GB meme and now this article is the only thing you have left
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:03:10 No.103894308
Dumb question. But is lower the cas latency on memory the better?
From what I heard, the 9800x3d likes 30 latency. I just want to make sure when looking at memory if going above or below will cause less performance.
From what I heard, the 9800x3d likes 30 latency. I just want to make sure when looking at memory if going above or below will cause less performance.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:04:49 No.103894320
![Lossless Scaling： Frame Generation For Every Game - But How Good Is it？ [69k7ZXLK1to]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1736885089472117s.jpg)
>>103894221
>still posting worst case in fg 3.0
Just let the tears flow, you'll feel better once you let it out
>still posting worst case in fg 3.0
Just let the tears flow, you'll feel better once you let it out
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:06:08 No.103894337
>>103893922
>eta from amazon is now end of march beginning of april
grim
good thing I ordered 2 when I did
>eta from amazon is now end of march beginning of april
grim
good thing I ordered 2 when I did
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:06:39 No.103894343
>>103894320
All those closeups look like dogshit.
All those closeups look like dogshit.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:08:21 No.103894357
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:08:38 No.103894362
>>103894308
there's a balance between cas latency and megatransfers
the "30 it likes" is talking about the general price to performance sweet spot with am5 chips being 6000cl30 ram
if you got 6400cl32 it would be the same overall latency but may not actually run the expo timings listed on the box on your specific cpu
there's a balance between cas latency and megatransfers
the "30 it likes" is talking about the general price to performance sweet spot with am5 chips being 6000cl30 ram
if you got 6400cl32 it would be the same overall latency but may not actually run the expo timings listed on the box on your specific cpu
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:10:44 No.103894383
Just ignore the DLSS FG poorfag hater, he's taking images from 2 year ago instead of actually taking recent driver and FG DLLs which don't have these artifacts anymore
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:11:38 No.103894392
>>103894320
> worst case in fg
>no camera movement
>even digital foundry can’t hide how bad it is, and they had to pull out their controllers
Based better than native worst case enjoyer, KEK
> worst case in fg
>no camera movement
>even digital foundry can’t hide how bad it is, and they had to pull out their controllers
Based better than native worst case enjoyer, KEK
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:16:36 No.103894441
![Dragon's Dogma 2 Path Tracing： It's Real, It Works And Here's How It Looks [UnYOKXS_wuo]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1736885796817115s.jpg)
>>103894343
>paused closeups look like dogshit
Certainly Lossless and FSR do.
>It's really hard to spot any differences [with and without DLSS FG], even at reduced playback speed
>Movement appears MUCH smoother
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition/35.html
I've used DLSS FG a couple of times (Portal RTX and Hellblade 2, off the top of my head, probably other times that don't come to mind), and it was pretty good
>>103894392
You're always going to be able to cherrypick.
I guess webm related means you can't use rasterization anymore
And that's going to be a BIG problem for your Radeon card
>paused closeups look like dogshit
Certainly Lossless and FSR do.
>It's really hard to spot any differences [with and without DLSS FG], even at reduced playback speed
>Movement appears MUCH smoother
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/
I've used DLSS FG a couple of times (Portal RTX and Hellblade 2, off the top of my head, probably other times that don't come to mind), and it was pretty good
>>103894392
You're always going to be able to cherrypick.
I guess webm related means you can't use rasterization anymore
And that's going to be a BIG problem for your Radeon card
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:19:38 No.103894466
>>103894441
pixel crawling hell on both images
pixel crawling hell on both images
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:20:52 No.103894484
Best value 4TB SSD?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:24:13 No.103894516
>>103894484
SN5000, 990 Evo Plus, SN850X, 990 Pro
>>103894466
If you're that delusional, you can't be saved
Come to think of it, aren't you annoyed by how FAKE the leftmost is?
SN5000, 990 Evo Plus, SN850X, 990 Pro
>>103894466
If you're that delusional, you can't be saved
Come to think of it, aren't you annoyed by how FAKE the leftmost is?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:32:24 No.103894614
Is anybody actually interested in the B570? Honestly I don't understand why intel bothered making a budget version of their budget gpu with such minor differences.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:33:21 No.103894627
>>103894614
Yields, probably street pricing will have a larger gap after price drops
Yields, probably street pricing will have a larger gap after price drops
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:38:10 No.103894702
>>103894441
Well, at least you always can read the article every time I prove you wrong to cope, KEK
Well, at least you always can read the article every time I prove you wrong to cope, KEK
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:38:28 No.103894705
>thought high hz were a meme
>got a 180 monitor on sale last week because my other monitor shit the bed finally
>tfw i instantly noticed the smoothness and over all lack of blur just doing anything
>my gpu can't really game at that high of hz but even gaming at 60fps feels smother than it did because 60 goes into 180 3 times
I'm sorry to everyone i've called retarded for falling for the high hz meme over the years.
>got a 180 monitor on sale last week because my other monitor shit the bed finally
>tfw i instantly noticed the smoothness and over all lack of blur just doing anything
>my gpu can't really game at that high of hz but even gaming at 60fps feels smother than it did because 60 goes into 180 3 times
I'm sorry to everyone i've called retarded for falling for the high hz meme over the years.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:44:25 No.103894784
Fed up with my 6900XT due to some issues, want to go Nvidia again for CUDA and gaming. Happy with my 5950X but when I'm at it, I'm gonna upgrade the whole thing.
Workload is gonna be some video stuff on Davinci Resolve, some programming and a lot of gaming.
Wait for 9950X3D with potential latency issues? Go for 9800X3D for some gaymen gainz and basically not a big productivity upgrade? Go for 9950X now?
Also, as for motherboard, I'm aware that most B650 are fine with current 7000 series, but shouldn't I rather head towards a X670E/X870E for having PCIe5 support and generally being newer and thus better suited for the higher end of the 9000 series?
Workload is gonna be some video stuff on Davinci Resolve, some programming and a lot of gaming.
Wait for 9950X3D with potential latency issues? Go for 9800X3D for some gaymen gainz and basically not a big productivity upgrade? Go for 9950X now?
Also, as for motherboard, I'm aware that most B650 are fine with current 7000 series, but shouldn't I rather head towards a X670E/X870E for having PCIe5 support and generally being newer and thus better suited for the higher end of the 9000 series?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:47:32 No.103894819
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:47:47 No.103894824
>>103894484
os drive, secondary/games, or just plain file storage?
at this very second the 990 evo plus is probably the best buy at $250
os drive, secondary/games, or just plain file storage?
at this very second the 990 evo plus is probably the best buy at $250
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:54:31 No.103894894
>>103894824
>os drive, secondary/games, or just plain file storage?
jack of all trades
my biggest ssd is 500gb which is dwarfed by my 14tb hdd
>os drive, secondary/games, or just plain file storage?
jack of all trades
my biggest ssd is 500gb which is dwarfed by my 14tb hdd
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:55:46 No.103894908
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:59:21 No.103894953
>>103894894
yeah bang for buck at today's pricing is the 990 evo plus
yeah bang for buck at today's pricing is the 990 evo plus
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)15:59:41 No.103894959
>>103894705
>gaming at 60fps feels smother than it did because 60 goes into 180 3 times
Please, elaborate.
>gaming at 60fps feels smother than it did because 60 goes into 180 3 times
Please, elaborate.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:00:49 No.103894974
>>103894824
>990 evo plus is probably the best buy at $250
Guess we must be getting taxed the shit out of flash chips over here cause it's $360 from what I can see. Fucking hell, I should have bought one of those at Microcenter when I was there.
>990 evo plus is probably the best buy at $250
Guess we must be getting taxed the shit out of flash chips over here cause it's $360 from what I can see. Fucking hell, I should have bought one of those at Microcenter when I was there.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:01:53 No.103894991
>>103894705
based retard
based retard
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:03:56 No.103895024
>>103894441
good evening sir
good evening sir
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:04:34 No.103895034
>>103894974
where are you? $250 rn on amazon US
I got mine for $240 around holiday sales and a 990 pro 4TB for $270
where are you? $250 rn on amazon US
I got mine for $240 around holiday sales and a 990 pro 4TB for $270
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:10:09 No.103895085
>>103894705
this was me with ultrawide. i always thought people who kept pushing for it were being pretentious. then my dad got a cheap one for office use and it instantly made me want one myself only with higher brightness and refresh rate. it makes games so much more immersive. the impact on regular desktop use is whatever, and it does take getting used to. the nice thing about it is that 1440p ultrawide only uses about 30% more pixels, so it's not that much more demanding than going 4K which is more than double the pixels.
this was me with ultrawide. i always thought people who kept pushing for it were being pretentious. then my dad got a cheap one for office use and it instantly made me want one myself only with higher brightness and refresh rate. it makes games so much more immersive. the impact on regular desktop use is whatever, and it does take getting used to. the nice thing about it is that 1440p ultrawide only uses about 30% more pixels, so it's not that much more demanding than going 4K which is more than double the pixels.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:13:54 No.103895141
Guys when is official release and when do we get benchmarks? I cant wait until 40xx owners start to panic sell their shit.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:14:31 No.103895150
>>103892135
The more you gen, the more you save!
The more you gen, the more you save!
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:16:03 No.103895168
On a budget of around 600cad, I'm trying to upgrade an old system I have (i5 7500, rx 580) considering that I'm not gonna need to change RAM or PSU. I'm debating an r5 5500, a cheap motherboard for around 250~ and then grabbing like a RX 6600 or something. I don't do much beyond game and watch anime, no editing or real intensive work. Seems like its a common budget option online so I may spring for it. I could get a r5 5600 instead if worth it, but it's a sizeable gap on Amazon (120 for the 5500 to 180 for the 5600)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:17:06 No.103895178
how much is the stupid 5080 astral?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:19:31 No.103895207
>>103894441
buy an ad
buy an ad
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:21:26 No.103895234
>>103895168
Pic related, a used 2060 Super will do you better than an RX 6600, and the Super will be cheaper as well. Low end Radeon cards like the RX 6600 have an x8 lane PCIe connection, which makes them shit tier on a PCIe 3.0 like with the RX 5500 (although I would say R5 5600 at a minimum, or i3 12100 if you can't get the R5 for some reason)
>>103894705
>60 goes into 180 3 times
Enable VRR dummy
If you already did, the above statement is wrong
>>103894784
CPU choice basically depends on your priorities
Productivity = 9950X, gaming = 9800X3D. The 9950X3D is fine but it won't be as good in gaming as the 9800X3D (if it's anything like the 7950X3D vs 7800X3D) and it won't be better in productivity
>>103894702
>your cherrypicks
>proving anything other than your own sour grapes syndrome
Refer to >>103894320 and all of the techpowerup frame by frame analysis >>103894441 as the final word, which goes for any teething issues in DLSS4 MFG as well
Pic related, a used 2060 Super will do you better than an RX 6600, and the Super will be cheaper as well. Low end Radeon cards like the RX 6600 have an x8 lane PCIe connection, which makes them shit tier on a PCIe 3.0 like with the RX 5500 (although I would say R5 5600 at a minimum, or i3 12100 if you can't get the R5 for some reason)
>>103894705
>60 goes into 180 3 times
Enable VRR dummy
If you already did, the above statement is wrong
>>103894784
CPU choice basically depends on your priorities
Productivity = 9950X, gaming = 9800X3D. The 9950X3D is fine but it won't be as good in gaming as the 9800X3D (if it's anything like the 7950X3D vs 7800X3D) and it won't be better in productivity
>>103894702
>your cherrypicks
>proving anything other than your own sour grapes syndrome
Refer to >>103894320 and all of the techpowerup frame by frame analysis >>103894441 as the final word, which goes for any teething issues in DLSS4 MFG as well
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:21:36 No.103895235
>>103895141
5080/5090 release is on Jan 30th. 5070 is somewhere in February (exact date is not yet made public). Review embargo's are pic rel.
5080/5090 release is on Jan 30th. 5070 is somewhere in February (exact date is not yet made public). Review embargo's are pic rel.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:25:34 No.103895284
>>103895178
+50% MSRP, at least. I saw a yuropoor post a 5080 Astral (in Slovenia I think) priced at 3000 Euro lol (3000 USD). Won't be that high in USA since yuropoors have ridiculously high taxes and the Euro has weakened greatly vs the USD over the last three years thanks to Putin.
+50% MSRP, at least. I saw a yuropoor post a 5080 Astral (in Slovenia I think) priced at 3000 Euro lol (3000 USD). Won't be that high in USA since yuropoors have ridiculously high taxes and the Euro has weakened greatly vs the USD over the last three years thanks to Putin.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:30:25 No.103895356
>>103895234
>please refer to the great wall of cope
KEK, it broke
Even NVshill can’t defend this shit
>please refer to the great wall of cope
KEK, it broke
Even NVshill can’t defend this shit
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:30:28 No.103895358
>>103894894
>$40 cheaper in America than Canada post conversion both on and off sale
>buying from an American retailer and having it shipped up here costs ~$40
Fuck.
>$40 cheaper in America than Canada post conversion both on and off sale
>buying from an American retailer and having it shipped up here costs ~$40
Fuck.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:30:31 No.103895359
>>103895235
>5090 reviews a week ahead of launch
>5080 the literal day before
>5080 aib literal day of release
lmfao they are trying so hard to make everyone buy 5090
>5090 reviews a week ahead of launch
>5080 the literal day before
>5080 aib literal day of release
lmfao they are trying so hard to make everyone buy 5090
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:30:48 No.103895362
>>103891813
>Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>doa
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
>Look out for RX 9070XT even if it may be doa
>doa
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:32:58 No.103895383
I still can't decide between a matx case or an itx case.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:36:47 No.103895429
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:40:05 No.103895467
so 5080 is DoA right? nobody is paying 1k for less than half the perf of a 5090....
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:42:09 No.103895488
Can a 650W PSU handle a 250W 5070 or will I be forced to upgrade? Some manufacturers even have the 220W 4070 Super recommendation set to 700W.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:44:43 No.103895516
How big of an SSD will I need if I want it to contain all the PSX, PS2, PS3, and X360 ROMs?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:44:58 No.103895522
>>103891834
The x2 frames feels like fucking shit, I can't imagine how weird x4 is going to feel. I have a 4090 and never use frame-gen.
The x2 frames feels like fucking shit, I can't imagine how weird x4 is going to feel. I have a 4090 and never use frame-gen.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:45:36 No.103895530
>>103895467
With only 16GB of vram? Yeah, wait for the 5080 Super with 24GB.
With only 16GB of vram? Yeah, wait for the 5080 Super with 24GB.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:45:41 No.103895532
>>103895516
probably 4tb-6tb.
probably 4tb-6tb.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:46:01 No.103895535
>>103895467
>double the price means double the performance!
>the more you buy the more you save!
you're just the kind of dog they look for
>double the price means double the performance!
>the more you buy the more you save!
you're just the kind of dog they look for
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:46:07 No.103895537
>>103895235
>5080/5090 release is on Jan 30th
>Review embargo's are pic rel.
>Review embargo
>Review
>embargo
thx for the quality infopost but wuuut?
some retail cucklord should leak benchmarks already.
>5080/5090 release is on Jan 30th
>Review embargo's are pic rel.
>Review embargo
>Review
>embargo
thx for the quality infopost but wuuut?
some retail cucklord should leak benchmarks already.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:46:33 No.103895543
If I want to transfer my os from gen 3 nvme to gen 4 would I be better off doing a clean OS install over mirroring the drive?
My gen 3 nvme is in slot #1 but I want the new gen 4 one and the old gen 3 can go to the poopy spot on the back of the mobo.
My gen 3 nvme is in slot #1 but I want the new gen 4 one and the old gen 3 can go to the poopy spot on the back of the mobo.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:47:51 No.103895554
>>103895543
you can just use macrium reflect or whatever and it will clone it perfectly
you can just use macrium reflect or whatever and it will clone it perfectly
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:48:09 No.103895560
casual user here, need a 2TB ssd (either sata or nvme) for system backups, best price without sacrificing functionality?
If you recommend an enclosure for it as well, that'd be a plus, I'm looking at Orico right now.
If you recommend an enclosure for it as well, that'd be a plus, I'm looking at Orico right now.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:49:30 No.103895573
>>103895516
if you actually mean all and you want them on a single ssd I think your only option is the 8tb sn850x
really you should just get some 4TB drives in current year, though
if you actually mean all and you want them on a single ssd I think your only option is the 8tb sn850x
really you should just get some 4TB drives in current year, though
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:50:10 No.103895581
>>103895516
You can easily figure that out by adding together the sizes of the packs you're going to download. And if you don't have access a tracker with them, focus on that before you look for storage.
You can easily figure that out by adding together the sizes of the packs you're going to download. And if you don't have access a tracker with them, focus on that before you look for storage.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:50:11 No.103895582
>>103895532
Probably more than that, I have the complete US PS2 library and that's ~2.5TB alone. I don't think you can get all of that on one drive without compression.
>>103895516
Just look up torrents with complete collections and add it up.
Probably more than that, I have the complete US PS2 library and that's ~2.5TB alone. I don't think you can get all of that on one drive without compression.
>>103895516
Just look up torrents with complete collections and add it up.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:50:54 No.103895593
>>103895582
I wish vimm's and whatever that one complete PSX rom archive on IA was had torrents.
I wish vimm's and whatever that one complete PSX rom archive on IA was had torrents.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:51:51 No.103895604
>>103895543
performance will always be better on a fresh install
you're probably due for one regardless if you haven't done a clean install since you built a system with a gen 3 boot drive
performance will always be better on a fresh install
you're probably due for one regardless if you haven't done a clean install since you built a system with a gen 3 boot drive
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:52:12 No.103895606
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:59:55 No.103895686
>>103895560
orico is nice, I really like the sabrent but I got it for $20
are you talking about something that you'll be using regularly for large writes or like a 1 time write and store kinda deal?
orico is nice, I really like the sabrent but I got it for $20
are you talking about something that you'll be using regularly for large writes or like a 1 time write and store kinda deal?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:00:39 No.103895700
>>103895604
>performance will always be better on a fresh install
my system been stable since 2018 jan. Its getting slow but I never had anything that could get this far without a complete windows reinstall. Ive decided I will build new pc from scratch and leave this 1080ti 1700x ryzen veteran live its days in peace as a secondary computer.
thanks for your service, pc buddy. you are the best.
>performance will always be better on a fresh install
my system been stable since 2018 jan. Its getting slow but I never had anything that could get this far without a complete windows reinstall. Ive decided I will build new pc from scratch and leave this 1080ti 1700x ryzen veteran live its days in peace as a secondary computer.
thanks for your service, pc buddy. you are the best.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:00:57 No.103895706
>>103895543
Fresh install if you don't mind and have the time for it, always.
Fresh install if you don't mind and have the time for it, always.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:09:02 No.103895794
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:10:21 No.103895808
>>103895700
not sure if this is what you meant but just in case
you absolutely should not clone your old drive for a brand new build
clean installation 100%
not sure if this is what you meant but just in case
you absolutely should not clone your old drive for a brand new build
clean installation 100%
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:10:56 No.103895818
>3090 still above recommended specs for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
based, hold until the 6090 baby hoooooold!
based, hold until the 6090 baby hoooooold!
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:14:44 No.103895868
>>103891834
It will cost almost double as much here as I paid for my 4090.
I may be retarded for spending that much money on a 4090 but I'm not retarded enough to pay another 4090 for just a quarter of it's value.
It will cost almost double as much here as I paid for my 4090.
I may be retarded for spending that much money on a 4090 but I'm not retarded enough to pay another 4090 for just a quarter of it's value.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:17:50 No.103895907
>>103893851
How is this possible? Its not like the 50series is going to be strictly worse. And if they are similarly price why would anyone buy the old?
How is this possible? Its not like the 50series is going to be strictly worse. And if they are similarly price why would anyone buy the old?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:18:59 No.103895921
Case recommendations for a NAS that I can carry around?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:20:45 No.103895943
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:22:16 No.103895962
>>103895921
You want an external drive or a NAS that you can connect to over the internet .
You should not be traveling with a raid array
You want an external drive or a NAS that you can connect to over the internet .
You should not be traveling with a raid array
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:23:32 No.103895975
>>103891930
We are only 2 years away from the 6090 and Nvidia needs to make it a real monster so that anybody at all gets tempted to pay the $3000 MSRP for it. I expect 40GB VRAM and 60% more raster perf than 4090 or else I will skip gen for yet another 2 years. I will certainly not buy the same VRAM package of the 5090 with just more fake frames for whatever sum.
We are only 2 years away from the 6090 and Nvidia needs to make it a real monster so that anybody at all gets tempted to pay the $3000 MSRP for it. I expect 40GB VRAM and 60% more raster perf than 4090 or else I will skip gen for yet another 2 years. I will certainly not buy the same VRAM package of the 5090 with just more fake frames for whatever sum.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:23:44 No.103895979
>>103895808
Dont worry. I was installing os and building pcs since 98. This system is bloated and cooked but stable as hell. Makes me wonder if I got any malware or other nasty shit as ive been visiting many wierd porn sites frequently but antivirus/antimalware softwares never find anything.
PC is still fast enough, games run good. Just my 16gb ram disappears fast as fuck but I always have like 100tabs open. Boot time is trash tho, compared to what it used to be.
Dont worry. I was installing os and building pcs since 98. This system is bloated and cooked but stable as hell. Makes me wonder if I got any malware or other nasty shit as ive been visiting many wierd porn sites frequently but antivirus/antimalware softwares never find anything.
PC is still fast enough, games run good. Just my 16gb ram disappears fast as fuck but I always have like 100tabs open. Boot time is trash tho, compared to what it used to be.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:28:14 No.103896037
>>103892034
> people will realise that it's more expensive
It can easily be 1200€ and I will get it anyway. I just saved 2500€ by skipping the 5090.
> people will realise that it's more expensive
It can easily be 1200€ and I will get it anyway. I just saved 2500€ by skipping the 5090.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:29:46 No.103896065
>>103892135
It's like an ugly woman with way too much make-up.
It's like an ugly woman with way too much make-up.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:33:48 No.103896111
>>103896037
what you need that much cpu power for? are you video editing a lot? we were gpu limited for over a decade now. for my new pc I think I will just get a 5700x3d and a used 4090/5070ti
what you need that much cpu power for? are you video editing a lot? we were gpu limited for over a decade now. for my new pc I think I will just get a 5700x3d and a used 4090/5070ti
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:39:58 No.103896182
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:42:09 No.103896208
I bought a B650 Tomahawk on sale, but I realized it's PCIe 4, not 5. Should I cancel it or will it be enough for a 5070 Ti? My NVMe is only gen 4 anyways.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:42:37 No.103896217
>>103896182
>likely the $1800 street value 4090 perf brought down to $1000
>not worth it
Ok retard
>my point
Your claim >>103895467
was that the 5080 will have "half the perf of the 5090," which is moronic
>likely the $1800 street value 4090 perf brought down to $1000
>not worth it
Ok retard
>my point
Your claim >>103895467
was that the 5080 will have "half the perf of the 5090," which is moronic
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:45:09 No.103896246
>>103895141
I'm waiting for tsmc 2nm 6090 monster machine
I'm waiting for tsmc 2nm 6090 monster machine
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:45:52 No.103896253
>>103896217
>5080 will have "half the perf of the 5090," which is moronic
the die size is half or less
>5080 will have "half the perf of the 5090," which is moronic
the die size is half or less
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:46:11 No.103896255
>>103895235
>5080 embargo is on release date
Absolute doa card lmao, not even nshitia is confident in that product selling
>5080 embargo is on release date
Absolute doa card lmao, not even nshitia is confident in that product selling
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:47:17 No.103896267
I need a low-power server CPU with a reasonable amount of PCIE lanes, and a motherboard with M.2/NVME slots. Any recommendations for a combo under $100-$200? Need a backup/NAS server.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:47:35 No.103896275
>>103896253
And?
Maybe you've been asleep for the last decade, but cores / TFLOPs / die area doesn't linearly scale at the high end. Go study up on the 4080 and 4090 then present your findings to the class
And?
Maybe you've been asleep for the last decade, but cores / TFLOPs / die area doesn't linearly scale at the high end. Go study up on the 4080 and 4090 then present your findings to the class
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:48:12 No.103896285
>>103892609
Who in their right mind does not separate game logic and rendering with different threads? Multi-Threading is nothing new nowadays. I can't believe there are devs this retarded. I wouldn't even call this approach "optimizing", it's rather standard. Real optimizing aims for preventing overdraw by thorough occlusion culling, making loops small enough so they fit in the CPU cache, making algorithms more efficient and memory usage smarter.
Who in their right mind does not separate game logic and rendering with different threads? Multi-Threading is nothing new nowadays. I can't believe there are devs this retarded. I wouldn't even call this approach "optimizing", it's rather standard. Real optimizing aims for preventing overdraw by thorough occlusion culling, making loops small enough so they fit in the CPU cache, making algorithms more efficient and memory usage smarter.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:51:07 No.103896320
>>103896285
>separate game logic and rendering with different threads?
Not that simple. Nvidia's driver acts as a server. Even my favorite Tom Peterson said that achieving this on Intel's driver is basically too difficult
>separate game logic and rendering with different threads?
Not that simple. Nvidia's driver acts as a server. Even my favorite Tom Peterson said that achieving this on Intel's driver is basically too difficult
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:57:31 No.103896392
>>103896275
>Go study up on the 4080 and 4090 then present your findings to the class
I'm good. You can overpay for your 5080 slop.
>Go study up on the 4080 and 4090 then present your findings to the class
I'm good. You can overpay for your 5080 slop.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:57:38 No.103896394
>>103892633
> AVOID: 'Silent' cases
beQuiet's 'Silent' cases are exceptionally good even though not actually more "silent" than others that don't bear this claim in their name.
> AVOID: 'Silent' cases
beQuiet's 'Silent' cases are exceptionally good even though not actually more "silent" than others that don't bear this claim in their name.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:03:25 No.103896455
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:06:33 No.103896491
>>103895284
> thanks to Putin.
"thanks to retarded Western sanctions and proxywar" would be even closer to the truth.
> thanks to Putin.
"thanks to retarded Western sanctions and proxywar" would be even closer to the truth.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:06:43 No.103896494
>>103892881
WD black sn850x
WD black sn850x
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:12:16 No.103896546
>>103894959
This, I'm curious to learn about the elevated logic behind it. The more often the actual fps go into a display's max possible fps the smoother the fps? Wtf?
This, I'm curious to learn about the elevated logic behind it. The more often the actual fps go into a display's max possible fps the smoother the fps? Wtf?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:12:50 No.103896554
>>103896285
>>103896320 (me)
Here's the same bench with Geforce included
>>103896392
Just because I understand core scaling (or the lack thereof) doesn't mean I'm consuming. For someone who needs an upgrade, the 5080 will be a fine option, but you can come back after the reviews and tell me how right I am
>>103896320 (me)
Here's the same bench with Geforce included
>>103896392
Just because I understand core scaling (or the lack thereof) doesn't mean I'm consuming. For someone who needs an upgrade, the 5080 will be a fine option, but you can come back after the reviews and tell me how right I am
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:17:39 No.103896608
>>103894784
Go for anything but the 9950X3D please. I don't want even more demand to cripple my chance to get one at a still reasonable price. Thank you.
And yes of course, it's a shitty CPU with lots of issues, latency even being the least. Get a 9800X3D or a 9950X, don't wait, it's not worth it. Buy now, buy!
Go for anything but the 9950X3D please. I don't want even more demand to cripple my chance to get one at a still reasonable price. Thank you.
And yes of course, it's a shitty CPU with lots of issues, latency even being the least. Get a 9800X3D or a 9950X, don't wait, it's not worth it. Buy now, buy!
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:22:03 No.103896658
>>103895234
> The 9950X3D is fine but it won't be as good in gaming as the 9800X3D
> and it won't be better in productivity
So much this! 16 cores won't be any better in productivity than 8 cores! It's a terrible choice in any case, I hope nobody is stupid enough to buy one. Get a 9800X3D, it's cheaper!
> The 9950X3D is fine but it won't be as good in gaming as the 9800X3D
> and it won't be better in productivity
So much this! 16 cores won't be any better in productivity than 8 cores! It's a terrible choice in any case, I hope nobody is stupid enough to buy one. Get a 9800X3D, it's cheaper!
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:25:44 No.103896693
>>103895686
it'll be something I do around once a month, cloning images of a 256GB and a 512GB system partition from 2 PCs.
>>103895606
I dunno I'm clueless, I'd given up on being my own admin for the good part of two decades.
it'll be something I do around once a month, cloning images of a 256GB and a 512GB system partition from 2 PCs.
>>103895606
I dunno I'm clueless, I'd given up on being my own admin for the good part of two decades.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:26:08 No.103896699
>>103895234 (me)
>>103896658
I meant
>and [the 9950X3D] won't be better in productivity [than the 9950X]
>16 cores won't be any better in productivity than 8 cores!
That's not true, although in a lot of cases (e.g., image editing), single core is what matters
>>103896658
I meant
>and [the 9950X3D] won't be better in productivity [than the 9950X]
>16 cores won't be any better in productivity than 8 cores!
That's not true, although in a lot of cases (e.g., image editing), single core is what matters
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:28:17 No.103896728
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:44:02 No.103896919
>>103896693
I'd probably just get an sn580/5000
I'd probably just get an sn580/5000
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:50:01 No.103897001
>>103896919
cheers mate, wasn't sure if it would've been overkill to get the drive in the OP, I'll keep an eye out for a deal then
cheers mate, wasn't sure if it would've been overkill to get the drive in the OP, I'll keep an eye out for a deal then
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)18:57:28 No.103897095
>>103897001
I mean you could always go with some silicon power ssd but you're probably only saving $10-20 and I can't speak to their reliability or customer support
I also kind of assume that if you're using an enclosure it's a drive that could potentially end up in a machine so you want something decent
otherwise you can just get something like a crucial x9 for cheap and it's functionally the same
I mean you could always go with some silicon power ssd but you're probably only saving $10-20 and I can't speak to their reliability or customer support
I also kind of assume that if you're using an enclosure it's a drive that could potentially end up in a machine so you want something decent
otherwise you can just get something like a crucial x9 for cheap and it's functionally the same
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:04:00 No.103897176
>>103894614
maybe this thing will have the american msrp of the b580 in europe
maybe this thing will have the american msrp of the b580 in europe
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:04:08 No.103897180
>>103897095
I'll likely keep it exclusively for backing up so I'll look into crucial. Can't be picking anything with questionable reliability for backups ey.
I noticed sabrent while shopping, I'll check the prices.
I'll likely keep it exclusively for backing up so I'll look into crucial. Can't be picking anything with questionable reliability for backups ey.
I noticed sabrent while shopping, I'll check the prices.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)20:43:47 No.103898197
Which do I keep the 9950x or 9800x3d? Kinda need to return one. I game at 4k with a 4090 rtx and run a triple 4k monitor setup.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)21:02:11 No.103898385
>>103898197
sell 9800x3d for easy profit
sell 9800x3d for easy profit
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)22:10:18 No.103899004
>>103898197
Return the 9950X
9800X3D is better for gaming
The 9950X isn't even as good as the 7800X3D for gaming
Return the 9950X
9800X3D is better for gaming
The 9950X isn't even as good as the 7800X3D for gaming