/pcbg/ - PC Building General
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103867203
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/inde
>PC Figures
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: 1/8 Scale, Pop Up Parade (L)
140mm+ base: 1/7+ Scale, Pop Up Parade (XL)
AVOID: Funko Pops
>CASE
ATX: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact
AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>CPU
Budget: 12400F, 9600X, 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 285K, 14700K
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>GPU
1440p: RTX 5070, RTX 5070 TI
4K: RTX 5090, RTX 5080
Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/be
>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2725D
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
Previous: >>103867203
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:33:48 No.103871243
what is it about AI that causes so much seethe and anger?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:33:55 No.103871246
>>103871228
What the fuck is this? Why do I have to fiddle with this?
What software do I need to set the fan to automagically maintain a target temp range?
>climbs above, fans speed up
>falls below, fans slow down
What the fuck is this? Why do I have to fiddle with this?
What software do I need to set the fan to automagically maintain a target temp range?
>climbs above, fans speed up
>falls below, fans slow down
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:34:16 No.103871251
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:36:11 No.103871268
>>103871246
People normally learn what a graph is in elementary school.
People normally learn what a graph is in elementary school.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:37:36 No.103871283
>>103871246
Fans aren't magic. Depending on the thermal solution, you can spin the fans at 100% and not improve the temperature compared to 50%.
Fans aren't magic. Depending on the thermal solution, you can spin the fans at 100% and not improve the temperature compared to 50%.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:37:50 No.103871287
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:39:22 No.103871307
>>103871287
>How often does it fail?
maybe 1 out of every 5 boots, no stability issues, just purely POSTing
>Also did you try reseating CPU?
not yet, could this cause this? how does it boot mostly and sometimes it just doesn't?
>How often does it fail?
maybe 1 out of every 5 boots, no stability issues, just purely POSTing
>Also did you try reseating CPU?
not yet, could this cause this? how does it boot mostly and sometimes it just doesn't?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:39:42 No.103871310
Reminder that NVIDIA WON
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:40:02 No.103871315
is my 12700k holding me back? should i get a ryzen 9000x3d ship instead? will be a good excuse for upgrading to DDR5 ram
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:41:28 No.103871331
>>103871315
>is my 12700k holding me back?
Depends on monitor, graphics card, and of course games played. And how much you care about the odd game with shit tier CPU optimization
>is my 12700k holding me back?
Depends on monitor, graphics card, and of course games played. And how much you care about the odd game with shit tier CPU optimization
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:42:03 No.103871338
>>103871307
What CPU and RAM? Possibly failing memory training?
Do you have Memory Context Restore enabled?
What CPU and RAM? Possibly failing memory training?
Do you have Memory Context Restore enabled?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:42:49 No.103871346
>>103871315
how could anyone possibly answer that question without knowing the rest of your specs?
how could anyone possibly answer that question without knowing the rest of your specs?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:43:43 No.103871358
>>103871324
>>103871324
posting again because i posted in the old bread by accident. are 40x0 users boned for multi frame generation? any hope of getting support for that through FSR or something?
>>103871324
posting again because i posted in the old bread by accident. are 40x0 users boned for multi frame generation? any hope of getting support for that through FSR or something?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:44:37 No.103871368
>>103871338
>What CPU and RAM? Possibly failing memory training?
I was thinking this as well. 3900X with G.skill trident z neo 3600 16-19
>Do you have Memory Context Restore enabled?
have no clue what that is, would it be under memory in BIOS? Am using MSI BIOS.
>What CPU and RAM? Possibly failing memory training?
I was thinking this as well. 3900X with G.skill trident z neo 3600 16-19
>Do you have Memory Context Restore enabled?
have no clue what that is, would it be under memory in BIOS? Am using MSI BIOS.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:45:04 No.103871374
>>103871358
Nvidia says RTX 50 has hardware units for better frame pacing and is required for MFG 3x and 4x
Up to you if you believe their words
Nvidia says RTX 50 has hardware units for better frame pacing and is required for MFG 3x and 4x
Up to you if you believe their words
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:45:23 No.103871378
>>103871283
>>103871268
I understand the relationship between temp and RPM
Just wondering if there is software that derives and adjusts a fan curve dynamically from a target temp/range.
If the target temp is outside of the physically limitations of the cooling, thats a separate issue.
>>103871268
I understand the relationship between temp and RPM
Just wondering if there is software that derives and adjusts a fan curve dynamically from a target temp/range.
If the target temp is outside of the physically limitations of the cooling, thats a separate issue.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:45:38 No.103871383
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:46:12 No.103871391
9070 $500
9070 XT $560
AMDoA
9070 XT $560
AMDoA
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:47:36 No.103871406
>>103871331
>>103871346
monitor is a 1440p 165 hz GPU is a 7900xt and i play mostly single player games like cyberpunk and the like though i do like to play demanding games too i also have 64 gigs of DDR4 ram
>>103871346
monitor is a 1440p 165 hz GPU is a 7900xt and i play mostly single player games like cyberpunk and the like though i do like to play demanding games too i also have 64 gigs of DDR4 ram
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:48:18 No.103871413
>>103871310
And we all lost ;_;
And we all lost ;_;
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:48:58 No.103871424
I HATE funko pops!
How can people like those ugly things?
I don't get it.
How can people like those ugly things?
I don't get it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:49:44 No.103871432
>>103871378
Try Fan Control.
Try Fan Control.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:49:56 No.103871436
>>103871307
>not yet, could this cause this? how does it boot mostly and sometimes it just doesn't?
Couldn't tell you, just a troubleshooting step I'd recommend.
What Mobo?
>not yet, could this cause this? how does it boot mostly and sometimes it just doesn't?
Couldn't tell you, just a troubleshooting step I'd recommend.
What Mobo?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:50:24 No.103871446
>>103871324 #
Nope, 4090 chads ate good
4080 buyers got scammed
4080s buyers got scammed and should've waited 1 more year
Nope, 4090 chads ate good
4080 buyers got scammed
4080s buyers got scammed and should've waited 1 more year
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:50:26 No.103871447
when do I get to buy a 9800x3d at a reasonable price in yuropistan???
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:50:43 No.103871449
>>103871374
>Up to you if you believe their words
Yeah, I kind of don't. I am interested in knowing more about how the tech works exactly, I wish we get a technical deep dive soon. The idea that you can more than double frame rate in the right conditions with this is kind of mind bending. I have a 4090 and have never used DLSS for anything up until I tried the MH Wilds demo which was total fucking garbage optimization-wise and I was playing at like 45 fps which was a shock. Until I enabled DLSS and frame gen and then it was a crispy 90 no questions asked (but it looked noticeably worse with the weird artifacting and "feel")
That being said at higher resolutions and bigger displays when sitting further away I think the changes were acceptable so yeah I am butt mad that I won't be getting access to that feature at all.
>Up to you if you believe their words
Yeah, I kind of don't. I am interested in knowing more about how the tech works exactly, I wish we get a technical deep dive soon. The idea that you can more than double frame rate in the right conditions with this is kind of mind bending. I have a 4090 and have never used DLSS for anything up until I tried the MH Wilds demo which was total fucking garbage optimization-wise and I was playing at like 45 fps which was a shock. Until I enabled DLSS and frame gen and then it was a crispy 90 no questions asked (but it looked noticeably worse with the weird artifacting and "feel")
That being said at higher resolutions and bigger displays when sitting further away I think the changes were acceptable so yeah I am butt mad that I won't be getting access to that feature at all.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:53:11 No.103871474
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:53:29 No.103871476
>>103871358
I replied in the last thread >>103871417
>>103871374
Correct, I forgot about the frame pacing claims. Pretty sure they said RTX 40 series will get the frame pacing improvements but I could be wrong about that
>>103871406
Keep your current CPU
>>103871449
>Until I enabled DLSS and frame gen and then it was a crispy 90
You can enable Super Resolution and Frame Generation separately in most games. If you're heavily CPU limited, obviously run DLAA if you can, or better yet use DLAA or DLSS to target a higher than native resolution with DLDSR or DSR
I replied in the last thread >>103871417
>>103871374
Correct, I forgot about the frame pacing claims. Pretty sure they said RTX 40 series will get the frame pacing improvements but I could be wrong about that
>>103871406
Keep your current CPU
>>103871449
>Until I enabled DLSS and frame gen and then it was a crispy 90
You can enable Super Resolution and Frame Generation separately in most games. If you're heavily CPU limited, obviously run DLAA if you can, or better yet use DLAA or DLSS to target a higher than native resolution with DLDSR or DSR
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:54:12 No.103871483
>>103871449
You generally want 50 - 60 fps already before you enable frame generation
MFG 3x and 4x could easily bump into your monitor's maximum refresh rate if it's anything less than 240Hz.
Even worse if your monitor is 1440p or less because cards like 5070Ti and up should be able to do 100+fps with upscaling before frame gen in most games and then you'd only need regular x2 frame gen to hit 180+fps
You generally want 50 - 60 fps already before you enable frame generation
MFG 3x and 4x could easily bump into your monitor's maximum refresh rate if it's anything less than 240Hz.
Even worse if your monitor is 1440p or less because cards like 5070Ti and up should be able to do 100+fps with upscaling before frame gen in most games and then you'd only need regular x2 frame gen to hit 180+fps
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:54:37 No.103871488
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:55:11 No.103871496
>>103871446
>Nope, 4090 chads ate good
How did we eat good if a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS? Raster stops mattering if all of a sudden nvidia is just going to train on every game (I guess they had a lot of data from GeForce Now to start with) and bundle a small blob in every driver update for every game that will let 50x0 card owners double+ their frame rate. And the visual issues will reduce over time as the models get better and better. I don't care about deterministic frame rendering if the power budget has to be 1.5-2x'd just to guarantee every single pixel that's rendered for a scene is in the same place every time. Imagine how much better temps and power usage are for games this way
>Nope, 4090 chads ate good
How did we eat good if a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS? Raster stops mattering if all of a sudden nvidia is just going to train on every game (I guess they had a lot of data from GeForce Now to start with) and bundle a small blob in every driver update for every game that will let 50x0 card owners double+ their frame rate. And the visual issues will reduce over time as the models get better and better. I don't care about deterministic frame rendering if the power budget has to be 1.5-2x'd just to guarantee every single pixel that's rendered for a scene is in the same place every time. Imagine how much better temps and power usage are for games this way
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:03:12 No.103871583
>>103871496
>How did we eat good if a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS?
Not him. With a good gen what you posted would actually be happening
1070 > 980 Ti
3070 = $1100 street price 2080 Ti
(Obviously there was no XX90 card back then unless you count Titans, which were usually barely faster than the 80 Ti.) The base performance of the 5070 isn't going to be near the 4090, and FG requires a certain base performance to be useful (50+ FPS). The 5070 won't be even close to as usable as the 4090 in workloads like full path tracing for instance.
>Imagine how much better temps and power usage are for games this way
Correct, efficiency is one of main stated reasons that Sony is investing in upscaling so heavily
>How did we eat good if a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS?
Not him. With a good gen what you posted would actually be happening
1070 > 980 Ti
3070 = $1100 street price 2080 Ti
(Obviously there was no XX90 card back then unless you count Titans, which were usually barely faster than the 80 Ti.) The base performance of the 5070 isn't going to be near the 4090, and FG requires a certain base performance to be useful (50+ FPS). The 5070 won't be even close to as usable as the 4090 in workloads like full path tracing for instance.
>Imagine how much better temps and power usage are for games this way
Correct, efficiency is one of main stated reasons that Sony is investing in upscaling so heavily
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:10:23 No.103871630
>>103871496
I'd much rather everyone stop pretending that this is advancement and just let the hardware be the same. Just look at the Geforce 20s, the 10s put all their silicon into rasterization and the 20s really couldn't do any better because they're wasting die space on meme visuals that look bad. Just continue making the old product if you can't make a better product.
It's not like people haven't noticed the stagnation.
I'd much rather everyone stop pretending that this is advancement and just let the hardware be the same. Just look at the Geforce 20s, the 10s put all their silicon into rasterization and the 20s really couldn't do any better because they're wasting die space on meme visuals that look bad. Just continue making the old product if you can't make a better product.
It's not like people haven't noticed the stagnation.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:12:34 No.103871644
Which of these CPU's is better over the other?
I play a lot of games, but I also need hardware that allows smooth usage of drawing software like Photoshop and clip studio paint and those require decent power to run
I play a lot of games, but I also need hardware that allows smooth usage of drawing software like Photoshop and clip studio paint and those require decent power to run
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:13:32 No.103871659
>>103871644
7600x is equal to 5700x3d in games but better for productivity
7600x is equal to 5700x3d in games but better for productivity
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:14:27 No.103871671
>>103871659
I definitely value productivity over games, so I think I'll go with that
I definitely value productivity over games, so I think I'll go with that
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:15:19 No.103871681
>get 1000 natively
>turn on mfg 4x
i want to feel speed
>turn on mfg 4x
i want to feel speed
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:15:32 No.103871683
>>103871644
7600X is better, especially for games that can take advantage of the greater RAM speed. Older games will run about the same on both. Productivity software like photoshop is much better optimized than gayman so photoshop therefore doesn't make good use of the 5700X3D's cache because it doesn't need it.
7600X is better, especially for games that can take advantage of the greater RAM speed. Older games will run about the same on both. Productivity software like photoshop is much better optimized than gayman so photoshop therefore doesn't make good use of the 5700X3D's cache because it doesn't need it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:16:12 No.103871698
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:16:24 No.103871700
>>103871488
>Get into bios enable memory training or memory context restore.
>could be under OC options or advanced settings
>make sure no fast boot options are enabled
>reboot,
>give at least 10min for the machine to post.
>Get into bios again and disable it. reboot as normal
>See if that solves issue.
Also visually inspect motherboard ATX cable pins for any disfigurement.
>Get into bios enable memory training or memory context restore.
>could be under OC options or advanced settings
>make sure no fast boot options are enabled
>reboot,
>give at least 10min for the machine to post.
>Get into bios again and disable it. reboot as normal
>See if that solves issue.
Also visually inspect motherboard ATX cable pins for any disfigurement.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:16:51 No.103871706
>>103871671
see if you can find a used 5900 XT
see if you can find a used 5900 XT
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:18:44 No.103871727
>>103871706
5900xt is newer so less prevalent on used market than the 5950x
5900xt is newer so less prevalent on used market than the 5950x
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:23:33 No.103871777
>>103871630
GPUs need an X3D moment
GPUs need an X3D moment
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:24:30 No.103871789
>>103871683
I've heard that the "X3D" improves game performance a lot, but I also don't know what it stands for nor what technology it is
I've heard that the "X3D" improves game performance a lot, but I also don't know what it stands for nor what technology it is
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:25:29 No.103871801
Reposting from last thread because I didn't reply to the guy.
Is the GPU really that shit? I know it's no 4900 but it's AMDs "best" right?
Is the GPU really that shit? I know it's no 4900 but it's AMDs "best" right?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:26:05 No.103871808
I still don't get it. DLSS3 looked at say Frame 1 and Frame 2 and took data from both to make Frame 1.5 In between.
I haven't read much but from video I saw they say DLSS4 looks at Frame 1 and creates Frame 2 3 4 just off that 1 frame alone? How the hell is that even possible? Even if it's using Frames 1 and 2 to make 3 inbetween frames how the hell is it doing that. making 1 can understand but 3 completely separate frames, all ordered correctly, all paced correctly? Makes zero sense. How does it know how to even order the frames correctly?
I haven't read much but from video I saw they say DLSS4 looks at Frame 1 and creates Frame 2 3 4 just off that 1 frame alone? How the hell is that even possible? Even if it's using Frames 1 and 2 to make 3 inbetween frames how the hell is it doing that. making 1 can understand but 3 completely separate frames, all ordered correctly, all paced correctly? Makes zero sense. How does it know how to even order the frames correctly?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:27:10 No.103871818
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:28:48 No.103871842
>>103871801
7900xtx is great but that right there is the reference model and it may or may not have vapor chamber issues. only way to find out is to actually try it.
7900xtx is great but that right there is the reference model and it may or may not have vapor chamber issues. only way to find out is to actually try it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:29:11 No.103871846
>>103871818
5900xt would be 400€
5950x would be 350€
both ones in the image I posted are 250€ each
Is the xt better than the x or does the price reflect which one is beefier?
5900xt would be 400€
5950x would be 350€
both ones in the image I posted are 250€ each
Is the xt better than the x or does the price reflect which one is beefier?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:29:55 No.103871858
>>103871789
It's stacked dies. A CPU is made by polishing some silicon and then carving the CPU out of the silicon using light. A stacked die is when you stack two of them on top of each other and run copper wires between them to link them.
The advantage of this is that you can take a normal CPU and bolt on some more cache. So the Ryzen 5700X gets some more cache on an extra die and becomes a 5700X3D. The second die only has cache on it, no CPU cores. Video games are usually extremely unoptimized software, and badly optimized software tends to run a lot better when it has extra cache to waste.
It's stacked dies. A CPU is made by polishing some silicon and then carving the CPU out of the silicon using light. A stacked die is when you stack two of them on top of each other and run copper wires between them to link them.
The advantage of this is that you can take a normal CPU and bolt on some more cache. So the Ryzen 5700X gets some more cache on an extra die and becomes a 5700X3D. The second die only has cache on it, no CPU cores. Video games are usually extremely unoptimized software, and badly optimized software tends to run a lot better when it has extra cache to waste.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:30:51 No.103871866
>>103871789
7600x is a newer node than 5700x3d even though 5700x3d only released last year it is a cut down 5800x3d which released 3 years ago, they have similar gaming performance that's about it, if you need an x3d gaming you get 9800x3d
7600x is a newer node than 5700x3d even though 5700x3d only released last year it is a cut down 5800x3d which released 3 years ago, they have similar gaming performance that's about it, if you need an x3d gaming you get 9800x3d
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:30:54 No.103871868
>>103871432
thanks i think that has what im looking for
thanks i think that has what im looking for
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:30:59 No.103871869
>>103871246
>climbs above, fans speed up
>falls below, fans slow down
what you're are looking for is called "hysteresis"
>climbs above, fans speed up
>falls below, fans slow down
what you're are looking for is called "hysteresis"
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:32:12 No.103871880
>>103871846
are those used prices?
the XT has a higher boost clocks.
don't forget motherboard prices before picking a cpu
are those used prices?
the XT has a higher boost clocks.
don't forget motherboard prices before picking a cpu
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:33:01 No.103871893
Which cpu to go for when it comes to console emulators?
Are the x3d cpus also better than the regular ones for that?
Are the x3d cpus also better than the regular ones for that?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:33:30 No.103871901
Here's my PC build that I plan on getting: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xPvyFZ
I am unsure about the case, also if you can suggest any case fans (if needed) that would be super helpful!
I am unsure about the case, also if you can suggest any case fans (if needed) that would be super helpful!
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:33:43 No.103871903
>>103871315
no its not i didnt notice much of a difference at all between my 13600k and 9800x3d except in vr
no its not i didnt notice much of a difference at all between my 13600k and 9800x3d except in vr
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:34:01 No.103871909
>>103871880
No, prices for brand new.
My current MB is ASUS Prime B450-Plus. Is this going to create a bottleneck?
A B-650 Plus would cost 150€ at this moment
No, prices for brand new.
My current MB is ASUS Prime B450-Plus. Is this going to create a bottleneck?
A B-650 Plus would cost 150€ at this moment
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:34:44 No.103871919
>>103871406
in that case no its not
i have a 79xtx
>>103871391
might as well get a used 79xtx lol
amd never misses to miss
in that case no its not
i have a 79xtx
>>103871391
might as well get a used 79xtx lol
amd never misses to miss
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:36:23 No.103871938
>>103871893
Duh
Duh
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:36:55 No.103871944
I posted this in the last thread but it got archived so i'm reposting, I also posted it to the wrong thread like a dumbass. I’m a little drunk bear with me.
It’s been a while since I’ve been knowledgeable on pc stuff, I’m looking to upgrade my CPU/Ram/Motherboard, I currently have an i7-7700k, and it has been extremely stable, but its really starting to show its age now and I think it's time it gets retired. I know AMD has pretty much caught up with Intel in terms of performance, but what is the difference, besides the price ofc.
I want the CPU to be pretty fast, but still not the most high end thing out there. I want it to be able to last me a long time, just as much as my 7700k did. Enough to play triple a games and do some video editing/motion work.
I would prefer it to be less than like 450-500ish dollars for all of this stuff if possible.
It’s been a while since I’ve been knowledgeable on pc stuff, I’m looking to upgrade my CPU/Ram/Motherboard, I currently have an i7-7700k, and it has been extremely stable, but its really starting to show its age now and I think it's time it gets retired. I know AMD has pretty much caught up with Intel in terms of performance, but what is the difference, besides the price ofc.
I want the CPU to be pretty fast, but still not the most high end thing out there. I want it to be able to last me a long time, just as much as my 7700k did. Enough to play triple a games and do some video editing/motion work.
I would prefer it to be less than like 450-500ish dollars for all of this stuff if possible.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:38:13 No.103871957
>>103871944
14900k
14900k
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:38:20 No.103871960
>>103871880
the xt has 100 mhz lower boost clocks
its literally made from leftover scraps too shitty to be called a 5950x
the xt has 100 mhz lower boost clocks
its literally made from leftover scraps too shitty to be called a 5950x
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:38:23 No.103871961
>>103871944
7800x3d
7800x3d
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:38:56 No.103871967
>>103871901
Are you from the US? You can't buy that cooler in the US.
Also that CPU is good for productivity but not as good for games, if that's what you're buying it for. 9800X3D is better for games, even the 7800X3D is also better.
Are you from the US? You can't buy that cooler in the US.
Also that CPU is good for productivity but not as good for games, if that's what you're buying it for. 9800X3D is better for games, even the 7800X3D is also better.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:40:21 No.103871976
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:40:32 No.103871982
>>103871496
> a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS?
It can't. A 4090 using LSFG for frame generation will get many times "better FPS" again than a 5070. It's stupid to compare fake performance.
> a sub $600 5070 can get better FPS?
It can't. A 4090 using LSFG for frame generation will get many times "better FPS" again than a 5070. It's stupid to compare fake performance.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:42:13 No.103871997
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:42:41 No.103872003
>>103871944
The best a $500 upgrade will get you is a 7600X with RAM and mobo. It's post lockdown prices, they are permanently high. The equivalent to the 7700k today would be something like $400 for the CPU alone.
The best a $500 upgrade will get you is a 7600X with RAM and mobo. It's post lockdown prices, they are permanently high. The equivalent to the 7700k today would be something like $400 for the CPU alone.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:43:18 No.103872011
My livemixer build is still going strong.
love this thing
tomorrow I build my second xeon shitbox to run dedicated servers on.
love this thing
tomorrow I build my second xeon shitbox to run dedicated servers on.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:43:44 No.103872015
>raster stops mattering
Look at these fucking spineless corpo shills
Look at these fucking spineless corpo shills
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:43:47 No.103872016
>>103871997
what program is that
what program is that
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:45:51 No.103872031
>>103871938
Is it really a duh tho?
It could've also be that emulation needs more "productive" power/more cores where the x3d cpus are bad at.
Is it really a duh tho?
It could've also be that emulation needs more "productive" power/more cores where the x3d cpus are bad at.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:46:26 No.103872040
>>103871967
It's primarily for productivity yeah, with some possibility of gaming, 60fps 40k, can be on high, doesn't need to be ultra. No, I am from the Balkans, haha.
It's primarily for productivity yeah, with some possibility of gaming, 60fps 40k, can be on high, doesn't need to be ultra. No, I am from the Balkans, haha.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:47:16 No.103872052
>>103872040
Looks fine, then.
Looks fine, then.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:47:48 No.103872057
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:49:09 No.103872068
>>103871681
Hope you have a 4000 Hz monitor
>feel
Additionally you won't feel any difference because the latency doesn't improve. FG is only about visual smoothness. You'd probably have more luck using Reflex 2 to feel the speed
>>103871801
Radeon is garbage, and you'd have to be retarded to buy right on the cusp of a new gen anyway
>>103871808
I'm not too sure about the details, but loop the frame warping Nvidia announced
>>103871842
>great
I would call you a salesman but you're also acknowledging the flaws so maybe just partially delusional
>>103871944
>450-500ish dollars
>triple a games and do some video editing/motion work
A 9800X3D would probably be good, just make sure you don't pay more than MSRP for it
>>103871919
>buy my bags
Hope you have a 4000 Hz monitor
>feel
Additionally you won't feel any difference because the latency doesn't improve. FG is only about visual smoothness. You'd probably have more luck using Reflex 2 to feel the speed
>>103871801
Radeon is garbage, and you'd have to be retarded to buy right on the cusp of a new gen anyway
>>103871808
I'm not too sure about the details, but loop the frame warping Nvidia announced
>>103871842
>great
I would call you a salesman but you're also acknowledging the flaws so maybe just partially delusional
>>103871944
>450-500ish dollars
>triple a games and do some video editing/motion work
A 9800X3D would probably be good, just make sure you don't pay more than MSRP for it
>>103871919
>buy my bags
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:49:22 No.103872070
>>103872031
Emulators never use large numbers of cores. Dolphin, for instance, only uses three. One to emulate the GCN CPU, one to emulate the GPU, and one for everything else. Emulators only benefit from high IPC.
Emulators never use large numbers of cores. Dolphin, for instance, only uses three. One to emulate the GCN CPU, one to emulate the GPU, and one for everything else. Emulators only benefit from high IPC.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:50:23 No.103872075
Reminder to ignore >>103872068 and everything he says.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:50:41 No.103872077
>>103871842
oh gotcha, damn not sure I wanna risk it
Everyone I check says 7800x3d is best for games but was that before 9800x3d? Sorry don't mean to ask many dumb questions
oh gotcha, damn not sure I wanna risk it
Everyone I check says 7800x3d is best for games but was that before 9800x3d? Sorry don't mean to ask many dumb questions
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:51:59 No.103872090
>>103872077
The 9800X3D is significantly faster. That's also why it's basically impossible to find one in stores right now.
The 9800X3D is significantly faster. That's also why it's basically impossible to find one in stores right now.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:53:28 No.103872108
>>103871901
Mark what you already have as purchased
And state your use case
Retarded to buy a 4080 Super on the cusp of a new generation
>>103872015
RT is the future, raster is stagnating aka computationally ballooning
That's why even conslows are adopting RT
>>103872075
>t. bags salesman
Mark what you already have as purchased
And state your use case
Retarded to buy a 4080 Super on the cusp of a new generation
>>103872015
RT is the future, raster is stagnating aka computationally ballooning
That's why even conslows are adopting RT
>>103872075
>t. bags salesman
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:54:56 No.103872124
>go to work
>come back
>nvidiatroon shill is STILL at it
what a loser
>come back
>nvidiatroon shill is STILL at it
what a loser
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:56:41 No.103872144
Asking again, the sale ends today.
My old tv is FHD, randomly flickers and has water damage, also it has random power related issues.
Is this a good replacement?
https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/buy/kogan-48-oled-4k-144hz-smart-google-tv-x98j-kogan/
Australia btw. I like playing controller games on a tv, it's comfy and feels pretty immersive.
I have a 6700xt in case it matter. I don't think i can hit 4k 144hz ans may have to compromise but is this good?
I dont wanna spend too much, my monitors still work and i just want a tv for my room for gaming
My old tv is FHD, randomly flickers and has water damage, also it has random power related issues.
Is this a good replacement?
https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/buy
Australia btw. I like playing controller games on a tv, it's comfy and feels pretty immersive.
I have a 6700xt in case it matter. I don't think i can hit 4k 144hz ans may have to compromise but is this good?
I dont wanna spend too much, my monitors still work and i just want a tv for my room for gaming
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:57:11 No.103872146
>>103872124
Does he ever sleep?
I've been lurking hard because I'm building a new pc and he is posting all the fucking time
Does he ever sleep?
I've been lurking hard because I'm building a new pc and he is posting all the fucking time
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:57:23 No.103872149
>>103872124
lol
lol
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:58:21 No.103872161
>>103872108
generating fake frames isnt the future. its just cope for not being able to handle ray tracing
generating fake frames isnt the future. its just cope for not being able to handle ray tracing
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:59:01 No.103872166
>>103872144
My parents got a kogan and the latency was fucking horrendous, was just messing about on my brothers playstation when I visited and it almost and button release before the input happened
My parents got a kogan and the latency was fucking horrendous, was just messing about on my brothers playstation when I visited and it almost and button release before the input happened
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:00:01 No.103872174
>>103872124
dude is here until like 2am est until he passes out
dude is here until like 2am est until he passes out
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:00:02 No.103872175
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:01:14 No.103872189
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:02:13 No.103872192
>>103872144
That looks fine so long as you are aware of the OLED burnin problem. The screen should last a good a few years with constant use before things like video game UI elements or the Windows bar might start appearing on the screen burned in. If you're just using it as a secondary monitor and you don't have it on all the time, you'll see this happen much more slowly.
>>103872166
Was it in game mode? Every TV is laggy when not in game mode.
That looks fine so long as you are aware of the OLED burnin problem. The screen should last a good a few years with constant use before things like video game UI elements or the Windows bar might start appearing on the screen burned in. If you're just using it as a secondary monitor and you don't have it on all the time, you'll see this happen much more slowly.
>>103872166
Was it in game mode? Every TV is laggy when not in game mode.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:03:00 No.103872199
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:03:27 No.103872202
>>103872192
Have no idea, that might be the reason then.
Have no idea, that might be the reason then.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:05:19 No.103872216
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:08:25 No.103872238
>>103872108
>RT is the future
Very light RT use could be the future everything else is bullshit. Even ignoring fps cost shit is unstable and laggy.
>RT is the future
Very light RT use could be the future everything else is bullshit. Even ignoring fps cost shit is unstable and laggy.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:09:26 No.103872246
>>103872108
>RT is the future
I keep hearing this for years. And then Nvidia shows 2k $$$ GPU hitting 26fps with RT.
>RT is the future
I keep hearing this for years. And then Nvidia shows 2k $$$ GPU hitting 26fps with RT.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:10:34 No.103872255
What can/should I impove here?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:10:52 No.103872257
>>103872246
Uh oh, you've pushed his "advertise DLSS as a speed and image quality improvement" button.
Uh oh, you've pushed his "advertise DLSS as a speed and image quality improvement" button.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:12:14 No.103872264
if i get one of the AMD APUs and I have 128GB of ram does that mean the APU can have 128GB of vram?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:12:34 No.103872272
>>103872255
spend 35 more bucks on a arctic AIO
spend 35 more bucks on a arctic AIO
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:12:56 No.103872273
Can anyone tell me what in the fuck is happening here?
This happens every time I'm on Chrome with a video game in the background. Sorry for recording my screen like a dumbass but this goes away the second I hit record using PC software and then never appears for as long as I'm recording.
https://files.catbox.moe/5b5ob0.mp4
This happens every time I'm on Chrome with a video game in the background. Sorry for recording my screen like a dumbass but this goes away the second I hit record using PC software and then never appears for as long as I'm recording.
https://files.catbox.moe/5b5ob0.mp4
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:13:36 No.103872283
>>103872255
SSD with DRAM.
SSD with DRAM.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:13:46 No.103872286
>>103872161
>generating fake frames isnt the future
Yes it is, which is why conslows are investing precious die space in some version of WMMA cores. Or are you unaware of the PS5 Pro and PSSR? Soon, just like Indiana Jones can't run without RT, games won't be able to run without matrix operations
>>103872216
Looks just like Metro Exodus, if it were made with a 1999 filter instead of a haze filter
>>103872246
4090 can do (supposedly) full PT at about 1080p 60 FPS. Soon you'll forget what raster even was. Almost nogaems come out these days without some form of RT (Unreal for instance uses unaccelerated software RT as the default)
>generating fake frames isnt the future
Yes it is, which is why conslows are investing precious die space in some version of WMMA cores. Or are you unaware of the PS5 Pro and PSSR? Soon, just like Indiana Jones can't run without RT, games won't be able to run without matrix operations
>>103872216
Looks just like Metro Exodus, if it were made with a 1999 filter instead of a haze filter
>>103872246
4090 can do (supposedly) full PT at about 1080p 60 FPS. Soon you'll forget what raster even was. Almost nogaems come out these days without some form of RT (Unreal for instance uses unaccelerated software RT as the default)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:15:04 No.103872297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk4kHFSKacg
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:15:06 No.103872298
>>103872286
>Soon you'll forget what raster even was
LOL call me when they can do path tracing without 0.5s lag and quality loss in motion.
Light RT can be useful not those meme Nvidia modes.
>Soon you'll forget what raster even was
LOL call me when they can do path tracing without 0.5s lag and quality loss in motion.
Light RT can be useful not those meme Nvidia modes.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:16:54 No.103872311
>>103871228
why are amd gpus omitted from the op
why are amd gpus omitted from the op
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:17:09 No.103872315
>>103871447
If can buy from sites than only ship within Germany, Mindfactory has them for 589€.
If can buy from sites than only ship within Germany, Mindfactory has them for 589€.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:17:58 No.103872320
![Hardware Unboxed - AMD X870X870E Roundup, 21 Boards Tested [keJHego7neI - 1720x968 - 33m21s]](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1736731078581046s.jpg)
>>103872255
Consider a different motherboard. There's rarely a reason to buy an X670 or X870 motherboard. The B650/B850 is cheaper with fewer M.2 slots, the B650E also has fewer but also faster M.2 and PCIe so it has better upgrade potential down the road, and the X670E/X870E has all of the advantage of the B650E and X670. That motherboard in particular has poor power phases.
Consider a different motherboard. There's rarely a reason to buy an X670 or X870 motherboard. The B650/B850 is cheaper with fewer M.2 slots, the B650E also has fewer but also faster M.2 and PCIe so it has better upgrade potential down the road, and the X670E/X870E has all of the advantage of the B650E and X670. That motherboard in particular has poor power phases.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:17:59 No.103872321
>>103872286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ZHzJ_bhaI
This one video completely destroys all RT shilling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Z
This one video completely destroys all RT shilling.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:18:34 No.103872328
>>103872146
don't check the archives
don't check the archives
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:18:52 No.103872330
>>103872286
it looks good in pictures but video games arent a static picture. I dont want more input lag
it looks good in pictures but video games arent a static picture. I dont want more input lag
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:19:12 No.103872332
>>103872286
Guess which one runs significantly better on AMD for cheaper
Guess which one runs significantly better on AMD for cheaper
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:20:52 No.103872346
>>103872311
Because there's an advertising campaign targeting this board.
Because there's an advertising campaign targeting this board.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:21:52 No.103872358
>>103872286
>Almost nogaems come out these days without some form of RT
RT made up probably, unironically, less than .5% of games released on Steam last year.
>Almost nogaems come out these days without some form of RT
RT made up probably, unironically, less than .5% of games released on Steam last year.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:23:50 No.103872382
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:24:12 No.103872386
![Dragon's Dogma 2 Path Tracing： It's Real, It Works And Here's How It Looks [UnYOKXS_wuo]-2-1](https://i.4cdn.org/g/1736731452082893s.jpg)
>>103872238
>unstable
RT is way more stable
>>103872255
Mark what you already own. Obviously you wouldn't buy a 4080 Super now. How many times to I have to fucking say this?
>unstable
RT is way more stable
>>103872255
Mark what you already own. Obviously you wouldn't buy a 4080 Super now. How many times to I have to fucking say this?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:24:45 No.103872392
>>103872286
Muh RT argument will no longer matter with RDNA4. Path Tracing is pointless in actual gameplay. Light RT already works ok on AMD cards.
Muh RT argument will no longer matter with RDNA4. Path Tracing is pointless in actual gameplay. Light RT already works ok on AMD cards.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:28:08 No.103872419
>>103871583
>Titans, which were usually barely faster than the 80 Ti
The Titan X out overclocks the 4090 and the 6950xt.
>Titans, which were usually barely faster than the 80 Ti
The Titan X out overclocks the 4090 and the 6950xt.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:29:11 No.103872426
>>103872386
The one on the left looks better. It looks like there's a puddle and the breeze is moving the reflection.
The one on the left looks better. It looks like there's a puddle and the breeze is moving the reflection.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:29:15 No.103872428
>>103872016
German Autism, aka Aquasuite
German Autism, aka Aquasuite
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:29:56 No.103872440
>>103872124
I think team green is with several shills at work, possibly AI based.
I think team green is with several shills at work, possibly AI based.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:30:10 No.103872443
>>103872330
I have heavily experimented with all forms of DLSS, and I can tell you that it reduces input lag against unadulterated native. See pic related >>103872068
>>103872298
Midrange RTX 60 will be able to run PT on a 4K monitor with good image quality
>>103872321
The reality is that AMDumboxed actually put together a list of games it thinks RT should be used in
I have heavily experimented with all forms of DLSS, and I can tell you that it reduces input lag against unadulterated native. See pic related >>103872068
>>103872298
Midrange RTX 60 will be able to run PT on a 4K monitor with good image quality
>>103872321
The reality is that AMDumboxed actually put together a list of games it thinks RT should be used in
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:30:11 No.103872444
>>103872428
What psu?
What psu?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:30:28 No.103872447
>>103872199
it's AUD, so 600usd
it's AUD, so 600usd
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:31:12 No.103872456
>>103872443
In games that don't let you disable rt, is it hard to get it turned off? rt only makes you get a lower score (eg making stuff dark that otherwise would be evenly lit)
In games that don't let you disable rt, is it hard to get it turned off? rt only makes you get a lower score (eg making stuff dark that otherwise would be evenly lit)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:31:44 No.103872461
>>103872090
> The 9800X3D is significantly faster.
Even more so in productive apps, the weak point of the 7800X3D. In 4k games the difference isn't that significant, it's hardly any.
> The 9800X3D is significantly faster.
Even more so in productive apps, the weak point of the 7800X3D. In 4k games the difference isn't that significant, it's hardly any.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:31:49 No.103872462
7800xt or 7900xt for 2k gaming
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:32:22 No.103872465
>>103872462
9070 XT
9070 XT
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:32:32 No.103872467
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:33:39 No.103872473
>>103872108
I decided to just use LSFG to turn my 4090 into a 5090 without spending another 2 grand. FUCK YOU NVIDIA!
I decided to just use LSFG to turn my 4090 into a 5090 without spending another 2 grand. FUCK YOU NVIDIA!
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:33:50 No.103872476
>>103872462
7800XT, the price/performance is best in class for midrange, or wait until new gen.
7800XT, the price/performance is best in class for midrange, or wait until new gen.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:33:51 No.103872477
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:34:19 No.103872486
>>103872386
nigga I own a 2080ti and that's it
nigga I own a 2080ti and that's it
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:34:27 No.103872488
So when it comes to thermal paste are the only important factors the thermal conductivity value and price?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:34:43 No.103872495
>>103872332
Unreal games both run better and look massive better on Geforce
>>103872358
Your pixelshit isn't part of the discussion
Unreal has by far the largest portion of released, demanding games, and every UE5 title that I'm aware of uses Lumen, which is at the very least software RT
>>103872392
PT is only pointless for Radeon cards (and of course low end Geforce cards)
>>103872426
It's always opposite day for retards
Unreal games both run better and look massive better on Geforce
>>103872358
Your pixelshit isn't part of the discussion
Unreal has by far the largest portion of released, demanding games, and every UE5 title that I'm aware of uses Lumen, which is at the very least software RT
>>103872392
PT is only pointless for Radeon cards (and of course low end Geforce cards)
>>103872426
It's always opposite day for retards
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:34:52 No.103872497
I like how the nvidia shill didn't reply to the lumen post
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:35:34 No.103872503
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:35:55 No.103872505
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:11 No.103872508
>>103872488
#1: performance
#2: durability
#3: ease of use
that is why i recommend ptm7950 for direct die and mx6 for cpu
#1: performance
#2: durability
#3: ease of use
that is why i recommend ptm7950 for direct die and mx6 for cpu
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:11 No.103872509
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:14 No.103872510
>>103872503
garbage
garbage
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:29 No.103872515
>>103872495
>Your pixelshit isn't part of the discussion
Your advertisement campaign isn't true and RT doesn't matter.
>Your pixelshit isn't part of the discussion
Your advertisement campaign isn't true and RT doesn't matter.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:44 No.103872517
>>103872495
>Unreal games both run better and look massive better on Geforce
That's not true lol
Lumen is software based, so raw rasterization performance is the only thing that matters :)
>Unreal games both run better and look massive better on Geforce
That's not true lol
Lumen is software based, so raw rasterization performance is the only thing that matters :)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:36:51 No.103872519
>>103872508
eww nigga u nasty
eww nigga u nasty
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:37:23 No.103872525
>buy 5090
>turn everything on
>moar grass, moar bloom, moar DARK traced areas
>get whipped by 3060 chads on low
>turn everything on
>moar grass, moar bloom, moar DARK traced areas
>get whipped by 3060 chads on low
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:37:30 No.103872527
>>103872497
He's not allowed to. Epic and Nvidia aren't business rivals.
He's not allowed to. Epic and Nvidia aren't business rivals.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:37:56 No.103872528
>bought one of those new smart plugs mainly to see how much power my PC sips underload
>b580/5700x3d(undervolted to 30mv all core)
>it's about 320-350w max
Damn, i forgot how power efficient "some" PC parts are. If i had an Intlel CPU it'd probably be double this.
>b580/5700x3d(undervolted to 30mv all core)
>it's about 320-350w max
Damn, i forgot how power efficient "some" PC parts are. If i had an Intlel CPU it'd probably be double this.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:38:55 No.103872537
>>103872528
yes low end parts are quite efficient
yes low end parts are quite efficient
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:39:17 No.103872540
>>103872509
Zero, otherwise TSMC will just shut down their Arizona plant, which is the most advanced foundry in America.
Zero, otherwise TSMC will just shut down their Arizona plant, which is the most advanced foundry in America.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:39:47 No.103872543
>>103872519
not as nasty as pump out
not as nasty as pump out
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:40:05 No.103872547
>>103872456
>makes you get a lower score
Are you talking about competitive shooters? You want to adjust contrast and brightness of your monitor, that's why gaming monitors often come with features like shadow boost. RT is irrelevant to that discussion. You can't disable Lumen in a lot of Unreal games
>>103872462
Neither; see >>103872495
>>103872497
Which post are you talking about?
>>103872517
DLSS is usually better than native in Unreal
So yes, Geforce is massively better for any Unreal game
>makes you get a lower score
Are you talking about competitive shooters? You want to adjust contrast and brightness of your monitor, that's why gaming monitors often come with features like shadow boost. RT is irrelevant to that discussion. You can't disable Lumen in a lot of Unreal games
>>103872462
Neither; see >>103872495
>>103872497
Which post are you talking about?
>>103872517
DLSS is usually better than native in Unreal
So yes, Geforce is massively better for any Unreal game
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:40:38 No.103872553
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:40:57 No.103872556
>>103872509
like zero
first off zion don is a cuck and won't do shit
second of all we don't manufacture electronics, and all the electronics we import come from taiwan (an ally of the US) so there would be no point in imposing tariffs on them anyways
like zero
first off zion don is a cuck and won't do shit
second of all we don't manufacture electronics, and all the electronics we import come from taiwan (an ally of the US) so there would be no point in imposing tariffs on them anyways
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:41:12 No.103872557
>>103872537
The 5700x3D is on par the 7600x. It's midrange, so is the b580.
The 5700x3D is on par the 7600x. It's midrange, so is the b580.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:42:03 No.103872564
>>103872547
>argument is about lumen vs rt
>starts melting down about dlss
lumen on native gets better performance and picture quality on amd than rt with dlss on nvidia btw
>argument is about lumen vs rt
>starts melting down about dlss
lumen on native gets better performance and picture quality on amd than rt with dlss on nvidia btw
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:42:31 No.103872572
>>103872503
Lossless Scaling Frame Generation.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
Lossless Scaling Frame Generation.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:43:35 No.103872583
>>103872510
Interesting how the opinion of Lossless Scaling has changed on 4chan since Nvidia debuted their DLSS MFG... hmmm...
Interesting how the opinion of Lossless Scaling has changed on 4chan since Nvidia debuted their DLSS MFG... hmmm...
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:44:51 No.103872592
>>103871246
Nobody gave you good advice.
To control fan speed you have two options, DC and PWD. You want PWD because it has better control, however you need fans with 4 pins instead of 3.
You should enable whatever "smart control" you have in your motherboard on all fans. That's the chart thing. More temp more speed basically. You don't need to tweak that, just leave the defaults, they're good enough.
Having good fan control will optimize heat control, be more energy efficient, and reduce noise. Even if you don't care about that having high speed doesn't always translate to cooler temps. You should have smart control and PWD enabled.
Nobody gave you good advice.
To control fan speed you have two options, DC and PWD. You want PWD because it has better control, however you need fans with 4 pins instead of 3.
You should enable whatever "smart control" you have in your motherboard on all fans. That's the chart thing. More temp more speed basically. You don't need to tweak that, just leave the defaults, they're good enough.
Having good fan control will optimize heat control, be more energy efficient, and reduce noise. Even if you don't care about that having high speed doesn't always translate to cooler temps. You should have smart control and PWD enabled.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:47:56 No.103872621
>>103872592
Didn't read. I put all my fans at the same speed(the highest they go to).
Didn't read. I put all my fans at the same speed(the highest they go to).
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:47:58 No.103872622
>>103872428
That port without a plug agitates me.
That port without a plug agitates me.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:48:01 No.103872623
>>103872564
>can't follow a reply chain >>103872332
You really are both retarded enough to think that
>radeon can run unreal games natively (it can't >>103872495)
>dlss isn't better than native in unreal (it is >>103872547)
>it's not better to turn whatever resolution you can run into a higher faux resolution with dlss (pic related)
Whatever sad resolution and framerate a Radeon card could get can never match a Geforce card taking that resolution and reconstructing it into a higher resolution
>>103872583
The AMDrones have always had cope like CAS and RSR, Lossless spam just an evolution of that
>can't follow a reply chain >>103872332
You really are both retarded enough to think that
>radeon can run unreal games natively (it can't >>103872495)
>dlss isn't better than native in unreal (it is >>103872547)
>it's not better to turn whatever resolution you can run into a higher faux resolution with dlss (pic related)
Whatever sad resolution and framerate a Radeon card could get can never match a Geforce card taking that resolution and reconstructing it into a higher resolution
>>103872583
The AMDrones have always had cope like CAS and RSR, Lossless spam just an evolution of that
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:48:06 No.103872624
RTX 3070 Ti 8GB or RX 6800 16GB for 1440p high refresh gaming? With or without upscaling
Is the RAM difference important now?
How bad is each one for AI shit? Though I don't think I will do much of that
Is the RAM difference important now?
How bad is each one for AI shit? Though I don't think I will do much of that
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:49:35 No.103872644
>>103872553
msrp is just a meme these days.
if you wait you're just going to pay more.
look at the 7800x3d
msrp is just a meme these days.
if you wait you're just going to pay more.
look at the 7800x3d
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:50:25 No.103872651
>>103872623
radeon runs fortnite just fine because it's all rasterization with no forced RT
LOL
in fact it runs it better than nvidia because amd gets better rasterization performance :)
and lumen is still technically rasterization, it just gets 90% of the visuals of RT without slicing your fps into 1/4 :)
radeon runs fortnite just fine because it's all rasterization with no forced RT
LOL
in fact it runs it better than nvidia because amd gets better rasterization performance :)
and lumen is still technically rasterization, it just gets 90% of the visuals of RT without slicing your fps into 1/4 :)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:51:46 No.103872660
>>103872621
That's very stupid but you do you lol
That's very stupid but you do you lol
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:51:50 No.103872663
Rtx 3060 or RX 5700 XT?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:53:05 No.103872674
>>103872624
The 3070ti is one of the cards most badly affected by Nvidia RAM stinginess. It cripples a GPU that could be doing so much more. Neither are good for AI. So long as you turn ray tracing off or restrict it to reflections then the 6800 is fine.
The 3070ti is one of the cards most badly affected by Nvidia RAM stinginess. It cripples a GPU that could be doing so much more. Neither are good for AI. So long as you turn ray tracing off or restrict it to reflections then the 6800 is fine.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:53:37 No.103872679
>>103872621
faaam
faaam
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:54:23 No.103872681
>>103872624
I would say both are pretty much garbage for modern games. The 3070 Ti was also the worst mainstream RTX 30 cards, but the 3070 Ti will be much better in practice because of DLSS if you try to use it in modern games. Avoid Radeon unless it's extremely cheap (and I can promise you it's not cheap enough)
I would say both are pretty much garbage for modern games. The 3070 Ti was also the worst mainstream RTX 30 cards, but the 3070 Ti will be much better in practice because of DLSS if you try to use it in modern games. Avoid Radeon unless it's extremely cheap (and I can promise you it's not cheap enough)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:54:47 No.103872684
Ignore >>103872681
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:54:54 No.103872686
========================= ROCm System Management Interface =========================
================================ Set GPU Fan Speed =================================
GPU[0] : Successfully set fan speed to level 255
====================================================================================
=============================== End of ROCm SMI Log ================================
================================ Set GPU Fan Speed =================================
GPU[0] : Successfully set fan speed to level 255
===================================
=============================== End of ROCm SMI Log ================================
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:56:04 No.103872692
>>103872663
They're about the same. You won't notice much of a difference.
They're about the same. You won't notice much of a difference.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:56:18 No.103872696
>>103872660
What's that? i couldn't hear you over the sound of my superior thermal performance.
What's that? i couldn't hear you over the sound of my superior thermal performance.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:57:18 No.103872705
>>103872696
Having high speed fans doesn't necessarily make your computer cooler though. Just saying.
Having high speed fans doesn't necessarily make your computer cooler though. Just saying.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:57:56 No.103872710
>>103872681 (me)
That Wukong benchmark uses software Lumen
No hardware accel. RT
>>103872663
5700 XT is quite literally unusable in modern games. It will not even boot any game that requires hardware accel. RT, like Indiana Jones
>>103872692
Absolutely moronic. 5700 XT can't even use XeSS because it lacks dp4a instructions. It also lacks mesh shader support, in addition to lacking RT
That Wukong benchmark uses software Lumen
No hardware accel. RT
>>103872663
5700 XT is quite literally unusable in modern games. It will not even boot any game that requires hardware accel. RT, like Indiana Jones
>>103872692
Absolutely moronic. 5700 XT can't even use XeSS because it lacks dp4a instructions. It also lacks mesh shader support, in addition to lacking RT
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:58:29 No.103872713
>>103872681
>upscaling to 1080p
>settings that will make the game run at less than 60fps at 1080p
what the fuck are you even posting? who is that info useful for?
>upscaling to 1080p
>settings that will make the game run at less than 60fps at 1080p
what the fuck are you even posting? who is that info useful for?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:59:07 No.103872720
>>103872710
Yeah but are you really going to play those latest games with a 3060?
Yeah but are you really going to play those latest games with a 3060?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:59:10 No.103872722
>>103872556
The president elect has done nothing but threaten tarrifs on US allies since he won the election
The president elect has done nothing but threaten tarrifs on US allies since he won the election
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:59:34 No.103872727
>>103872713
correcting myself: less than 60fps rendering at 720p
>>103872720
they should boot at the very least
correcting myself: less than 60fps rendering at 720p
>>103872720
they should boot at the very least
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:59:42 No.103872728
>>103872681
>being so disingenuous you won't even recommend a 16gb card over a 8gb for 1440p
Kill yourself
>being so disingenuous you won't even recommend a 16gb card over a 8gb for 1440p
Kill yourself
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:00:12 No.103872731
>>103872713
It's useful to Nvidia's marketing team that posts here.
It's useful to Nvidia's marketing team that posts here.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:00:16 No.103872732
>>103872705
Huh? Your saying that CFM is all that actually matters for thermal performance when it comes to fans? I couldn't agree more!
Huh? Your saying that CFM is all that actually matters for thermal performance when it comes to fans? I couldn't agree more!
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:01:13 No.103872742
>>103872705
Fans reduce heat by converting entropy into noise and blowing it outside of your house.
Fans reduce heat by converting entropy into noise and blowing it outside of your house.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:01:16 No.103872744
>>103872727
You can boot a slide show. That's fantastic. It really depends on what you're trying to do but if it's just gaming on windows I agree that 3060 makes more sense.
You can boot a slide show. That's fantastic. It really depends on what you're trying to do but if it's just gaming on windows I agree that 3060 makes more sense.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:01:30 No.103872746
>>103872624
you need a 5090 and no matter the circumstances do NOT consider buying radeon
also you need to turn on dlss and raytracing to play at 1080p.
you need a 5090 and no matter the circumstances do NOT consider buying radeon
also you need to turn on dlss and raytracing to play at 1080p.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:04:09 No.103872760
>>103872624
I don't know what these guys are smoking but the choice is obvious, 6800XT with 16GB. You're not getting anywhere with those miserable 8GB. That's assuming you're only gaming. RT would be an advantage for the 3070Ti expect the lack of VRAM kills that advantage.
I don't know what these guys are smoking but the choice is obvious, 6800XT with 16GB. You're not getting anywhere with those miserable 8GB. That's assuming you're only gaming. RT would be an advantage for the 3070Ti expect the lack of VRAM kills that advantage.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:05:16 No.103872770
>>103872320
9800 seems to have compatibility issues when I try swapping, idk why.
What should I use with next to no price limit?
9800 seems to have compatibility issues when I try swapping, idk why.
What should I use with next to no price limit?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:06:02 No.103872773
>>103872713
Getting an Unreal 5 game running on a 3070 Ti or 6800 will require settings optimization and upscaling. He's obviously a poorfag, He'll be grateful for DLSS even at 1080p
>>103872720
3060 is easily usable in Indiana Jones. Look it up
Also from a practical perspective the 3060 can run any modern Unreal game with half decent image quality. The 5700 XT absolutely cannot.
>>103872728
>muh vram
The last concern. Reconstruction quality is far above VRAM. For every game where textures will need to be adjusted (meaningfully) on the 3070 Ti, 10 will require 720p FSR on the 6800, which is far worse.
>>103872746
>that pic
Now you're getting it
>>103872760
VRAM != performance, numbnuts
Neither does it turn FSR into DLSS
Getting an Unreal 5 game running on a 3070 Ti or 6800 will require settings optimization and upscaling. He's obviously a poorfag, He'll be grateful for DLSS even at 1080p
>>103872720
3060 is easily usable in Indiana Jones. Look it up
Also from a practical perspective the 3060 can run any modern Unreal game with half decent image quality. The 5700 XT absolutely cannot.
>>103872728
>muh vram
The last concern. Reconstruction quality is far above VRAM. For every game where textures will need to be adjusted (meaningfully) on the 3070 Ti, 10 will require 720p FSR on the 6800, which is far worse.
>>103872746
>that pic
Now you're getting it
>>103872760
VRAM != performance, numbnuts
Neither does it turn FSR into DLSS
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:07:59 No.103872788
>>103872773
do you ever sleep
do you ever sleep
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:09:30 No.103872800
>>103872788
people like him should be eating out of bins.
people like him should be eating out of bins.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:09:51 No.103872804
>>103872788
No I'm the boogeyman of /pcbg/
No I'm the boogeyman of /pcbg/
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:10:51 No.103872808
>>103872773
>epic settings
>3060
>34fps
nobody wants to play that for more than 5 seconds you stupid faggot
>epic settings
>3060
>34fps
nobody wants to play that for more than 5 seconds you stupid faggot
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:11:01 No.103872809
>>103872773
You're giving bad advice with the 3070Ti vs 6800XT. The 6800XT is superior in performance and VRAM. You don't need DLSS in 1440p and FSR3 is good enough if you need it. Besides, FSR4 will be released soon.
There's not much reason to pick the 3070Ti. Only if you really need CUDA for some reason and I do mean really really, not pretend you need.
You're giving bad advice with the 3070Ti vs 6800XT. The 6800XT is superior in performance and VRAM. You don't need DLSS in 1440p and FSR3 is good enough if you need it. Besides, FSR4 will be released soon.
There's not much reason to pick the 3070Ti. Only if you really need CUDA for some reason and I do mean really really, not pretend you need.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:12:15 No.103872821
it would be entertaining if he was at least shilling for an underdog like intel. But working overtime (for pennies in bangladesh) for the globohomo njudea trillion dollar faceless international conglomerate is just sad
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:15:01 No.103872841
>>103872770
What do you mean swapping? I don't use that site, do you mean it's saying the 9800X3D doesn't work on some motherboards? It's possible when you buy a Zen 5 CPU that older motherboards won't boot with that CPU until you upgrade their BIOS. Asrock Steel Legend motherboards are generally the most recommended if you can get them, because pretty much all of their models have proper power phases suited to Zen 4 and 5 CPUs so far. They do cost like twice as much as the mobo you picked out, though. Like most motherboards, Asrock boards will let you update your BIOS without a compatible CPU, you'll have to look up a guide on their site on how to do this if the motherboard comes out of the box with an old BIOS.
What do you mean swapping? I don't use that site, do you mean it's saying the 9800X3D doesn't work on some motherboards? It's possible when you buy a Zen 5 CPU that older motherboards won't boot with that CPU until you upgrade their BIOS. Asrock Steel Legend motherboards are generally the most recommended if you can get them, because pretty much all of their models have proper power phases suited to Zen 4 and 5 CPUs so far. They do cost like twice as much as the mobo you picked out, though. Like most motherboards, Asrock boards will let you update your BIOS without a compatible CPU, you'll have to look up a guide on their site on how to do this if the motherboard comes out of the box with an old BIOS.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:16:13 No.103872851
>>103872809
You're correct and all, but we're talking about the 6800, not 6800XT, but you're still right.
You're correct and all, but we're talking about the 6800, not 6800XT, but you're still right.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:17:03 No.103872858
>>103872809
You can't even read, retard. He said 6800, not 6800 XT.
>You don't need DLSS in 1440p
Moronic, have you even been looking at the benches I've been posting?
>FSR3 is good enough
No it isn't, do you not see the DLSS+++ plastered all over the chart in the post you replied to? And before you say "but FSR2", the upscaling kernel wasn't updated for FSR3.
>FSR4 will be released soon
RX 6000 isn't getting it, retard. At launch it will be RX 9000 exclusive and RX 7000 will only get it if AMD can "get it running"
Literally blind, illiterate, ignorant, and low IQ. Coincidentally you're also a Radeon fan
You can't even read, retard. He said 6800, not 6800 XT.
>You don't need DLSS in 1440p
Moronic, have you even been looking at the benches I've been posting?
>FSR3 is good enough
No it isn't, do you not see the DLSS+++ plastered all over the chart in the post you replied to? And before you say "but FSR2", the upscaling kernel wasn't updated for FSR3.
>FSR4 will be released soon
RX 6000 isn't getting it, retard. At launch it will be RX 9000 exclusive and RX 7000 will only get it if AMD can "get it running"
Literally blind, illiterate, ignorant, and low IQ. Coincidentally you're also a Radeon fan
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:18:13 No.103872867
>>103872858
>have you even been looking at the benches I've been posting?
Not him, but of course none of us have. You're lying for product advertisement.
>have you even been looking at the benches I've been posting?
Not him, but of course none of us have. You're lying for product advertisement.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:20:05 No.103872880
>>103872867
Just filter my posts, shithead. You have nothing interesting to say in reply, except the usual "us/we" typical AMD schizophrenia
Just filter my posts, shithead. You have nothing interesting to say in reply, except the usual "us/we" typical AMD schizophrenia
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:20:14 No.103872881
>>103872809
>Only if you really need CUDA for some reason and I do mean really really, not pretend you need.
ZLUDA on AMD works with many things, but there are popular AI programs that didn't work still. Though I don't remember which and it could have improved since the last time I checked
In Blender, the 6800 (HIP-RT/ZLUDA) performs like a 3060 (OPTIX) according to the Open Data benchmarks
>Only if you really need CUDA for some reason and I do mean really really, not pretend you need.
ZLUDA on AMD works with many things, but there are popular AI programs that didn't work still. Though I don't remember which and it could have improved since the last time I checked
In Blender, the 6800 (HIP-RT/ZLUDA) performs like a 3060 (OPTIX) according to the Open Data benchmarks
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:21:39 No.103872898
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:21:50 No.103872900
nvidia sucks. I hope that Trump makes nvidia illegal.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:22:12 No.103872902
I won't buy another AMD gpu unless they fix AMF and start taking their CUDA competitor seriously.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:24:22 No.103872921
>>103872902
Rocm 6 is admittedly better than 5, but you have to own one of their approved cards.
Rocm 6 is admittedly better than 5, but you have to own one of their approved cards.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:24:43 No.103872926
>>103872881
If you need that sort of stuff, and you don't want to experiment, Nvidia will work better. But let's face it, are most people going to use any of that? A lot of guys here don't even use Linux and AI in Windows is a joke so why even bother recommending based on that?
AMD works worse in Blender because HIP is a cross GPU translation library. It's not ROCm which is the equivalent to CUDA. Blender devs did that because HIP works better in Windows. ROCm doesn't work very well on Windows.
If you need that sort of stuff, and you don't want to experiment, Nvidia will work better. But let's face it, are most people going to use any of that? A lot of guys here don't even use Linux and AI in Windows is a joke so why even bother recommending based on that?
AMD works worse in Blender because HIP is a cross GPU translation library. It's not ROCm which is the equivalent to CUDA. Blender devs did that because HIP works better in Windows. ROCm doesn't work very well on Windows.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:30:05 No.103872951
9900x3d release date?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:53:55 No.103873139
>>103872881
>In Blender, the 6800 (HIP-RT/ZLUDA) performs like a 3060 (OPTIX) according to the Open Data benchmarks
Prove it
>In Blender, the 6800 (HIP-RT/ZLUDA) performs like a 3060 (OPTIX) according to the Open Data benchmarks
Prove it
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:01:57 No.103873203
>>103873139
>anon says "Open Data benchmarks"
>>>>Prove it
The benchmark renders 6 scenes and none of them are Scanlands. Of course results will be different, retard
The advantage from adding RT (CUDA > OptiX) isn't the same on everything you render
>anon says "Open Data benchmarks"
>>>>Prove it
The benchmark renders 6 scenes and none of them are Scanlands. Of course results will be different, retard
The advantage from adding RT (CUDA > OptiX) isn't the same on everything you render
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:04:29 No.103873235
>>103873139
We're at Blender 4.3 now
We're at Blender 4.3 now
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:07:22 No.103873271
>>103872624
3070ti is the biggest scam card ever released, the only good 30 series cards were 3060ti msrp, 3080 msrp, 3060 12g
3070ti is the biggest scam card ever released, the only good 30 series cards were 3060ti msrp, 3080 msrp, 3060 12g
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:08:20 No.103873277
>>103873271
Funny way to say 3090.
Funny way to say 3090.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:08:49 No.103873283
>>103873203
>>103873235
If you have better benchmarks, post them.
Obviously something like ZLUDA is hacky but I'm giving you a limited opportunity to present Radeon + Blender in a better light
>pic related: wikipage on software rot
>>103873235
If you have better benchmarks, post them.
Obviously something like ZLUDA is hacky but I'm giving you a limited opportunity to present Radeon + Blender in a better light
>pic related: wikipage on software rot
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:09:29 No.103873286
>>103872674
>The 3070ti is one of the cards most badly affected by Nvidia RAM stinginess.
How is it affected in recent games?
>The 3070ti is one of the cards most badly affected by Nvidia RAM stinginess.
How is it affected in recent games?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:10:38 No.103873301
>>103872921
Sadly ROCm and HIP are still very shitty when it comes to documentation and official support. I was improved with RDNA3 but I think we can only really say it's fixed when UDNA is released. When that happens AMD doesn't have any excuse to not simply support all GPUs.
Sadly ROCm and HIP are still very shitty when it comes to documentation and official support. I was improved with RDNA3 but I think we can only really say it's fixed when UDNA is released. When that happens AMD doesn't have any excuse to not simply support all GPUs.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:12:28 No.103873315
>>103873277
Yeah both 70ti and 90 were the biggest scams
Yeah both 70ti and 90 were the biggest scams
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:20:25 No.103873362
Think I'm gonna return the oled meme on a few basis alone
>the pixel refresh implementation
a buggy mess that sometimes refreshes in sleep or not, user hostile and forcing a refresh if accumulating enough hours, sure it's just a few minutes but annoying the the long term
>The potential DSC meme
dp2.1 ultrashort cables are being introduced
if the new oled monitors come with a 100% ability to disable the pixel refresh forced shit and working firmware and dp2.1 full connections and avoiding everything dsc it would be good, or getting a tv if they have better firmware
might just go back to lcd slop even though the pq is worse, not that I care too much, a bright image and decent colors is more than you need for all the sloppy content on the web right now
it might be over (for now)
>the pixel refresh implementation
a buggy mess that sometimes refreshes in sleep or not, user hostile and forcing a refresh if accumulating enough hours, sure it's just a few minutes but annoying the the long term
>The potential DSC meme
dp2.1 ultrashort cables are being introduced
if the new oled monitors come with a 100% ability to disable the pixel refresh forced shit and working firmware and dp2.1 full connections and avoiding everything dsc it would be good, or getting a tv if they have better firmware
might just go back to lcd slop even though the pq is worse, not that I care too much, a bright image and decent colors is more than you need for all the sloppy content on the web right now
it might be over (for now)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:25:36 No.103873396
>This is what AMD shills are claiming has BTFO Nvidia's FGx4
OH NO NO NO PFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OH NO NO NO PFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:26:59 No.103873411
>>103873362
Most of the new 4th gen panel OLEDs revealed at CES do have true DP 2.1 support, no clue about disabling the refresh.
Most of the new 4th gen panel OLEDs revealed at CES do have true DP 2.1 support, no clue about disabling the refresh.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:28:36 No.103873420
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:28:37 No.103873421
>>103873396
Is the fake frame ratio here 20:1? WTF?
Is the fake frame ratio here 20:1? WTF?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:28:39 No.103873422
>>103873283
Just load a 13gb scene.
Just load a 13gb scene.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:30:15 No.103873432
If I'm using my setup for video editing is 32 ram too little?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:30:43 No.103873438
>>103873286
It's not. AMD is yet again the big dick fine wine chad lmao it's inevitable. It shouldn't be (ie Microsoft could quality control low settings so that it doesn't suck to have an 8gb, but ms won't ever do that on pc)
It's not. AMD is yet again the big dick fine wine chad lmao it's inevitable. It shouldn't be (ie Microsoft could quality control low settings so that it doesn't suck to have an 8gb, but ms won't ever do that on pc)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:32:01 No.103873447
>>103873420
>>103873421
You don't understand bros, since it works on AMD cards more fake frames is actually BASED. Nvidia is finished.
>>103873421
You don't understand bros, since it works on AMD cards more fake frames is actually BASED. Nvidia is finished.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:32:31 No.103873452
>>103873396
just use x2 like normal human do
just use x2 like normal human do
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:33:00 No.103873457
>>103873447
I don't use fake anything. Not even fake tits. I'm a real guy, an AMD GAMER.
I don't use fake anything. Not even fake tits. I'm a real guy, an AMD GAMER.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:34:09 No.103873465
>>103873432
If you're editing 1080p then that's fine.
If you're editing 1080p then that's fine.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:40:30 No.103873509
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6XayaLTw8
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:42:21 No.103873532
>memory usage is at 33/61.6
>"Bre, just buy 32GB. You wont need more"
>"Bre, just buy 32GB. You wont need more"
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:44:40 No.103873547
>>103873509
The only time AMD gpus seemed like they were on the right track.
The only time AMD gpus seemed like they were on the right track.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:46:27 No.103873562
I will probably need a new UPS at some point, because my electricity often has brownouts due to being on the end of a transmission system.
advice? I may be running close to 2000w peak
advice? I may be running close to 2000w peak
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:47:01 No.103873566
>>103873362
I get your DP2.1 concern, but pixel refresh is completely manageable on my MSI QD-OLED monitor.
The monitor will automatically start the panel protect process when I set the monitor on standby and if it's past the 4 hour cleanup interval.
You're going to develop health issues if you continue to sit and stare at your PC monitor for 4 consecutive hours at a time, let alone 16 hours.
The cleanup notice pops up in the bottom right corner of the screen with the display companion app installed, it automatically closes if even if I don't select "cancel" or "later". Selecting "cancel" means the monitor will automatically start the panel protect when the monitor is on standby. "later" switches the cleanup notice to 16 hour intervals.
0 quirks, 0 bugs, it either informs every 4 hours (and auto cleanup on standby), or will force cleanup at the 16th hour.
I have the latest scalar firmware installed btw.
I get your DP2.1 concern, but pixel refresh is completely manageable on my MSI QD-OLED monitor.
The monitor will automatically start the panel protect process when I set the monitor on standby and if it's past the 4 hour cleanup interval.
You're going to develop health issues if you continue to sit and stare at your PC monitor for 4 consecutive hours at a time, let alone 16 hours.
The cleanup notice pops up in the bottom right corner of the screen with the display companion app installed, it automatically closes if even if I don't select "cancel" or "later". Selecting "cancel" means the monitor will automatically start the panel protect when the monitor is on standby. "later" switches the cleanup notice to 16 hour intervals.
0 quirks, 0 bugs, it either informs every 4 hours (and auto cleanup on standby), or will force cleanup at the 16th hour.
I have the latest scalar firmware installed btw.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:47:59 No.103873575
>>103872592
this is afterburners fan curve retard, so your advice is irrelevant.
this is afterburners fan curve retard, so your advice is irrelevant.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:48:01 No.103873576
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/mP88TW,b8P8TW
is there any reason not to go with the mATX board here?
is there any reason not to go with the mATX board here?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:49:38 No.103873598
>>103873562
if you can split it into 2x900w ups units thats probably cheaper than a single 2000w
if you can split it into 2x900w ups units thats probably cheaper than a single 2000w
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:49:42 No.103873599
>>103873576
don't get B anything.
don't get B anything.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:50:10 No.103873603
>>103873576
the lack of m.2 slots.
the lack of m.2 slots.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:51:28 No.103873618
>>103873396
Oh, so Lossless x20 outputs about the same quality as DLSS FG x4, impressive
Oh, so Lossless x20 outputs about the same quality as DLSS FG x4, impressive
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:51:59 No.103873621
>>103873603
it has more
it has more
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:53:43 No.103873634
So as a general rule, how close am I allowed to get to my psus wattage with my load?
Ive been thinking of upgrading my gpu for a long while now and id really like to avoid buying a new psu along with it, according to pc part picker im going from about 414 to 529 or so, on a 850w psu
Is this adequate wiggle room?
Am I overthinking this?
Ive been thinking of upgrading my gpu for a long while now and id really like to avoid buying a new psu along with it, according to pc part picker im going from about 414 to 529 or so, on a 850w psu
Is this adequate wiggle room?
Am I overthinking this?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:55:48 No.103873654
>>103873598
Right now I have an apc Back-UPS 1500. It's been solid, but they don't last forever.
wow I just saw I am juuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUST BARELY under the max load. wow.
It's 865w max load.
https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/BR1500G/apc-backups-pro-1500va-865w-tower-120v-10x-nema-515r-outlets-avr-lcd-user-replaceable-battery/
replacement battery is just $100 direct from APC.
idk, they make pretty solid units, maybe get one of their fancy ones?
Right now I have an apc Back-UPS 1500. It's been solid, but they don't last forever.
wow I just saw I am juuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUST BARELY under the max load. wow.
It's 865w max load.
https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/B
replacement battery is just $100 direct from APC.
idk, they make pretty solid units, maybe get one of their fancy ones?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:55:58 No.103873657
>>103873634
530w peak on 850w is totally fine
530w peak on 850w is totally fine
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:56:29 No.103873662
>>103873603
They have the same.
>>103873621
It doesn't, the part picker website has a bad listing there.
>>103873576
Avoid that MSI board, it overheats badly and the CPU might not run at top speed. That Asrock board also runs hotter than most, but it shouldn't bottleneck any CPU you put in it.
They have the same.
>>103873621
It doesn't, the part picker website has a bad listing there.
>>103873576
Avoid that MSI board, it overheats badly and the CPU might not run at top speed. That Asrock board also runs hotter than most, but it shouldn't bottleneck any CPU you put in it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:57:15 No.103873670
>>103873657
Im not sure if its peak since it just says estimated wattage, thats why I thought I might need wiggle room, since im not sure if itll start drawing way more when under actual load
Im not sure if its peak since it just says estimated wattage, thats why I thought I might need wiggle room, since im not sure if itll start drawing way more when under actual load
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:57:44 No.103873676
>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth will support DLSS but not FSR
What the fuck? Why would they do that? Holy shit, fuck you Square!
What the fuck? Why would they do that? Holy shit, fuck you Square!
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:58:07 No.103873683
Cheapest 1440P Screen 144Hz+ that won't come with dead pixels?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:58:45 No.103873690
>>103873634
>Am I overthinking this?
Yes, unless you're going to overclock the shit out of your CPU and GPU
At 650W or so, I would be looking up power spike graphs like this.
>>103873683
Those KTC monitors that go for $120-150 on sale
>Am I overthinking this?
Yes, unless you're going to overclock the shit out of your CPU and GPU
At 650W or so, I would be looking up power spike graphs like this.
>>103873683
Those KTC monitors that go for $120-150 on sale
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:58:52 No.103873696
>>103873634
You have a lot of room if it's an 850W PSU.
Very few programs simultaneously run the CPU & GPU near maximum loads for a sustained period.
For modern 3D gaming, shader compilation is usually the most intensive load for the CPU, and it generally happens during game launch.
The GPU will be near maximum load in real-time game rendering.
9800X3D and a 5080. or even a 4090 works with an 850W PSU.
You have a lot of room if it's an 850W PSU.
Very few programs simultaneously run the CPU & GPU near maximum loads for a sustained period.
For modern 3D gaming, shader compilation is usually the most intensive load for the CPU, and it generally happens during game launch.
The GPU will be near maximum load in real-time game rendering.
9800X3D and a 5080. or even a 4090 works with an 850W PSU.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:59:03 No.103873697
>>103873676
Dlss and FSR are so similar that you can easily mod one for the other
Dlss and FSR are so similar that you can easily mod one for the other
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:00:02 No.103873706
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:00:29 No.103873711
>>103872624
6800, 3070 is DOA
6800, 3070 is DOA
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:01:49 No.103873723
>>103873690
>KTC
Not around in my country but will keep an eye out. Got an Asus TUF that arrived with 11 dead pixels and it has just scared me from getting new screens
>KTC
Not around in my country but will keep an eye out. Got an Asus TUF that arrived with 11 dead pixels and it has just scared me from getting new screens
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:02:34 No.103873728
>>103873690
>>103873696
Thanks, and here I figured i had to upgrade it since ive had this thing for such a long time I figured it was just outdated, makes me wonder why you'd ever need a 1200w
Also what the fuck is going on on the bottom of that chart jesus christ
>>103873696
Thanks, and here I figured i had to upgrade it since ive had this thing for such a long time I figured it was just outdated, makes me wonder why you'd ever need a 1200w
Also what the fuck is going on on the bottom of that chart jesus christ
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:02:37 No.103873729
>>103873654
don't pay the apc tax, perfectly good batteries cost half that on amazon
just don't go for the absolute cheapest noname brands
don't pay the apc tax, perfectly good batteries cost half that on amazon
just don't go for the absolute cheapest noname brands
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:02:57 No.103873734
>>103873723
Which country?
Which country?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:04:40 No.103873746
>>103873734
A minor European one
A minor European one
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:04:43 No.103873747
4070 super, 4090, 5090. Only 3 cards that matter
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:06:10 No.103873759
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:06:20 No.103873760
>>103873728
You may have to buy a new PSU if your current one doesn't have enough 8-pin PCIe receptors, you need at least 2~4 available for the video card.
1~2 more if your PSU uses 8-pin receptors for the CPU EPS connector(s)
You may have to buy a new PSU if your current one doesn't have enough 8-pin PCIe receptors, you need at least 2~4 available for the video card.
1~2 more if your PSU uses 8-pin receptors for the CPU EPS connector(s)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:06:29 No.103873761
So is the 5070ti actually that great or is it all smoke and mirrors?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:08:11 No.103873769
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-versus-rtx-4090-how-does-the-new-halo-gpu-compare-with-its-predecessor
the 5090 is so tempting :3
just might shell out 2k for this
the 5090 is so tempting :3
just might shell out 2k for this
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:09:01 No.103873771
>>103873634
Power supplies have an efficiency curve. By regulation, the peak efficiency has to be at the 50% mark. So a 1000 watt PSU will waste the least amount of electricity at 500 watt loads. Wasted electricity directly turns into heat which will eventually break your PSU, so to get the longest lifespan out of a PSU, try to aim for around 50% of its rated load. As for the rest of your computer, unless you draw more than the PSU's max load, you won't break anything.
Power supplies have an efficiency curve. By regulation, the peak efficiency has to be at the 50% mark. So a 1000 watt PSU will waste the least amount of electricity at 500 watt loads. Wasted electricity directly turns into heat which will eventually break your PSU, so to get the longest lifespan out of a PSU, try to aim for around 50% of its rated load. As for the rest of your computer, unless you draw more than the PSU's max load, you won't break anything.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:09:40 No.103873776
>>103873662
should i just go with the B650M-HDV/M.2 from the op?
all i want from a mobo is to plug my components into it when i build my pc and never think about it again
an open pcie slot for a wifi adaptor if i need it for some reason and atleast 2 m2 slots for ssds is all i really care about as far as features
ive never bought an mATX board is there any concerns with using it in a mid atx tower?
should i just go with the B650M-HDV/M.2 from the op?
all i want from a mobo is to plug my components into it when i build my pc and never think about it again
an open pcie slot for a wifi adaptor if i need it for some reason and atleast 2 m2 slots for ssds is all i really care about as far as features
ive never bought an mATX board is there any concerns with using it in a mid atx tower?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:10:30 No.103873779
>half my upcoming build is out of stock
>most gets back in stock at the end of january
>the 9800x3d isn't in stock until the end of february
wew lad
>most gets back in stock at the end of january
>the 9800x3d isn't in stock until the end of february
wew lad
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:11:46 No.103873787
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:12:18 No.103873791
>>103873776
That's probably the best low cost motherboard, yes. Absolutely no frills.
That's probably the best low cost motherboard, yes. Absolutely no frills.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:13:22 No.103873801
How bad can transient spikes get with GPUs? Will 1000W be enough for 9800X3D and 5090? I could still return my FSP PSU but I really do not want to have to reroute all the cables again because I'll have to uninstall the AIO radiator.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:14:30 No.103873805
>>103873801
40 series transients were much lower than 30 series, only time and actual testing will tell for the 50
40 series transients were much lower than 30 series, only time and actual testing will tell for the 50
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:14:55 No.103873811
>>103871228
>AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
Bro, isn't this illogical and contradictory? Advocating for more expensive cases that show the interior of the case, only to recommend ugly, barebones motherboards for them.
>AVOID CASES WITHOUT FRONT GLASS PANEL
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
Bro, isn't this illogical and contradictory? Advocating for more expensive cases that show the interior of the case, only to recommend ugly, barebones motherboards for them.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:15:14 No.103873813
>>103873771
You're overstating the efficiency topic, buy a high-end 850W PSU and it will run at 85~90% efficiency near 800W
You're overstating the efficiency topic, buy a high-end 850W PSU and it will run at 85~90% efficiency near 800W
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:16:32 No.103873820
>>103871496
The 5070 is not going to get "4090" performance without DLSS and all those tricks. I can guarantee you that. The 5070 is going to be like 10-15% faster than the 4070 Super native.
The 5070 is not going to get "4090" performance without DLSS and all those tricks. I can guarantee you that. The 5070 is going to be like 10-15% faster than the 4070 Super native.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:16:34 No.103873821
>still no leaked benches
COWARDS.
COWARDS.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:16:44 No.103873823
I might have to replace my psu regardless then, it is pretty damn old by now
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:18:03 No.103873838
>>103873820
nta, but i don't think it matters. pretty much everyone's use case for a card at that price point is bideo james, not local models and shit. if you're doing that, you're already an enthusiast and what you have works or it doesn't and you know what you need to buy that does. the 5070 isn't that, obv.
nta, but i don't think it matters. pretty much everyone's use case for a card at that price point is bideo james, not local models and shit. if you're doing that, you're already an enthusiast and what you have works or it doesn't and you know what you need to buy that does. the 5070 isn't that, obv.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:18:03 No.103873839
>>103873813
If a PSU is 90% efficient at 425 watts and 85% efficient at 850 watts then that's three times as much heat in the PSU at 850 watts.
If a PSU is 90% efficient at 425 watts and 85% efficient at 850 watts then that's three times as much heat in the PSU at 850 watts.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:18:13 No.103873840
>>103871228
Should I wait for 5070? I want to upgrade but haven't a clue how much of a step up it is from a 4070 rtx and how much I should care
Should I wait for 5070? I want to upgrade but haven't a clue how much of a step up it is from a 4070 rtx and how much I should care
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:18:36 No.103873844
>>103873813
The efficiency chart looks even better with 230V input. This is only an 80+ Gold 850W unit btw ($125~155 in the US).
The efficiency chart looks even better with 230V input. This is only an 80+ Gold 850W unit btw ($125~155 in the US).
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:19:05 No.103873850
>>103873811
OP is a troll that molested the good OP. Nobody looks at their PC after like 2 or 3 weeks. It's generally good advice to take a cheap, high quality case like the Montech 903 Base/MAX.
OP is a troll that molested the good OP. Nobody looks at their PC after like 2 or 3 weeks. It's generally good advice to take a cheap, high quality case like the Montech 903 Base/MAX.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:19:48 No.103873859
>>103873838
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:20:53 No.103873867
Which GPU should I get if I want to have sex with Princess Celestia?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:22:49 No.103873887
>>103873839
An 850W PSU with 85% efficiency (worst-case when minor rails are fully loaded) @ 800W means 140W is excess heat.
Less than 90W excess heat at 90% efficiency (more realistic since minor rails won't be at maximum load on gaming load).
Now name the use cases where a gaming PC will sustain that 890~940W load.
Even a 14900KS and a 5090 @ 600W won't reach that sustain load.
An 850W PSU with 85% efficiency (worst-case when minor rails are fully loaded) @ 800W means 140W is excess heat.
Less than 90W excess heat at 90% efficiency (more realistic since minor rails won't be at maximum load on gaming load).
Now name the use cases where a gaming PC will sustain that 890~940W load.
Even a 14900KS and a 5090 @ 600W won't reach that sustain load.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:23:58 No.103873893
>>103873821
We had a ton for the 9070 but it's releasing in February.
We had a ton for the 9070 but it's releasing in February.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:24:55 No.103873901
>>103873887
Most people don't game or render 24/7, so they will be closer to the 25-60% range with any PSU/hardware configuration most of the time anyway
Most people don't game or render 24/7, so they will be closer to the 25-60% range with any PSU/hardware configuration most of the time anyway
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:25:07 No.103873902
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:25:38 No.103873906
>>103873887
Why would I have to do that? It's a non-linear problem, the closer you get to the PSU's max load, the more the efficiency does in fact cause the heat to rise faster than the load. Aiming for around 50% PSU load does in fact maximize power for longest lifespan.
Why would I have to do that? It's a non-linear problem, the closer you get to the PSU's max load, the more the efficiency does in fact cause the heat to rise faster than the load. Aiming for around 50% PSU load does in fact maximize power for longest lifespan.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:26:43 No.103873917
>>103873769
5090 is such a good looking card, I'm tempted to buy a defective one for cheap and just put the PCB in a frame to look at.
5090 is such a good looking card, I'm tempted to buy a defective one for cheap and just put the PCB in a frame to look at.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:26:44 No.103873918
>>103873747
You meant 4080super right
You meant 4080super right
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:26:45 No.103873919
>>103873850
Why does this site attract schizos to every general thread?
Why does this site attract schizos to every general thread?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:27:13 No.103873924
>>103873901
And a good 80+ Gold / Cybenetics Platinum efficiency rated 850W PSU will run those ranges at above 90% efficiency anyway.
And a good 80+ Gold / Cybenetics Platinum efficiency rated 850W PSU will run those ranges at above 90% efficiency anyway.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:28:05 No.103873933
>>103873919
They can't get power anywhere else in society.
They can't get power anywhere else in society.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:28:33 No.103873937
>>103873850
He's paid to be here.
He's paid to be here.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:28:57 No.103873944
>>103873906
Except these new & higher-end PSUs can operate above 90% efficiency past the 50% load, and are built to run at 100% load for their entire 10~12-year warranty.
Stop sharing antiquated advice.
Except these new & higher-end PSUs can operate above 90% efficiency past the 50% load, and are built to run at 100% load for their entire 10~12-year warranty.
Stop sharing antiquated advice.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:29:31 No.103873946
My xtx shit the bed and because its eol I cant get a replacement so im back with my 1080ti
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:32:50 No.103873972
just how big of an upgrade is going from a 2070 to a 5070ti?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:33:03 No.103873974
>>103873944
Except that the guy who asked doesn't have one of those. Neither do most people. Also if you buy a PSU expecting it to last a long time, you'd still run it at 50% load in order to maximize that.
You aren't giving advice, you're pointing out that brand new, high end power supplies last longer now and that's it.
Except that the guy who asked doesn't have one of those. Neither do most people. Also if you buy a PSU expecting it to last a long time, you'd still run it at 50% load in order to maximize that.
You aren't giving advice, you're pointing out that brand new, high end power supplies last longer now and that's it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:37:48 No.103874007
>>103873972
pretty good
pretty good
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:37:54 No.103874008
>>103873946
>because its eol I cant get a replacement
nani the fuck anon
can we get some more details?
>cant get a replacement
in most countries they would need to replace it with something equivalent or better they cant just hurrdurr eol you out of satisfaction
how did it fail? can you salvage it with a repair attempt? most cards these days are pretty hardy, and specialist repair shops might be able to save the card
>because its eol I cant get a replacement
nani the fuck anon
can we get some more details?
>cant get a replacement
in most countries they would need to replace it with something equivalent or better they cant just hurrdurr eol you out of satisfaction
how did it fail? can you salvage it with a repair attempt? most cards these days are pretty hardy, and specialist repair shops might be able to save the card
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:38:24 No.103874014
>>103873974
You don't advise people to pick a brand new PSU with the expectation to run it at 50% total load for the reasons I explained above, that is antiquated advice.
> Also if you buy a PSU expecting it to last a long time, you'd still run it at 50% load in order to maximize that.
The literal manufacturers of these high end PSUs guarantee you a replacement even if you run these units at 100% load 24/7 for their 10/12 year warranty.
And they make a profit running this business.
The name of the game is to own a good PSU and buy a new one after the warranty lapses.
This Pure Power 12 shows how inferior it is compared to the Super Flower XG, both 80+ Gold units with a $10 price difference currently.
You don't advise people to pick a brand new PSU with the expectation to run it at 50% total load for the reasons I explained above, that is antiquated advice.
> Also if you buy a PSU expecting it to last a long time, you'd still run it at 50% load in order to maximize that.
The literal manufacturers of these high end PSUs guarantee you a replacement even if you run these units at 100% load 24/7 for their 10/12 year warranty.
And they make a profit running this business.
The name of the game is to own a good PSU and buy a new one after the warranty lapses.
This Pure Power 12 shows how inferior it is compared to the Super Flower XG, both 80+ Gold units with a $10 price difference currently.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:40:39 No.103874031
>>103872382
Why would anyone recommend something that you know will be obsolete in 2 weeks.
Why would anyone recommend something that you know will be obsolete in 2 weeks.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:42:13 No.103874045
>>103874014
>The literal manufacturers of these high end PSUs guarantee you a replacement even if you run these units at 100% load 24/7 for their 10/12 year warranty.
And you will get a lot longer out of that if you put it at 50% load.
>The name of the game is to own a good PSU and buy a new one after the warranty lapses.
Oh look we have PSU advertisers in our general with the Nvidia advertiser.
>You don't advise people to pick a brand new PSU with the expectation to run it at 50% total load for the reasons I explained above
If you want to maximize lifespan of the PSU, you in fact follow my advice and ignore yours.
>The literal manufacturers of these high end PSUs guarantee you a replacement even if you run these units at 100% load 24/7 for their 10/12 year warranty.
And you will get a lot longer out of that if you put it at 50% load.
>The name of the game is to own a good PSU and buy a new one after the warranty lapses.
Oh look we have PSU advertisers in our general with the Nvidia advertiser.
>You don't advise people to pick a brand new PSU with the expectation to run it at 50% total load for the reasons I explained above
If you want to maximize lifespan of the PSU, you in fact follow my advice and ignore yours.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:43:45 No.103874061
>>103874031
Plus if you buy a 5090 at $2k you can resell it for $4k.
Plus if you buy a 5090 at $2k you can resell it for $4k.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:43:59 No.103874063
Imagine the amd seething 5090 will generate in 2 weeks
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:44:00 No.103874064
I need to upgrade my entire pc. Is it worth it to get the 5070ti? I really hate the idea of paying for a mediocre GPU that can use AI to increase frames. Especially since the game in question has to support DLSS. Without that, it's just overpriced mediocrity.
Will it be enough for indie game development, simulations/animations and gaming?
Will it be enough for indie game development, simulations/animations and gaming?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:45:18 No.103874069
>>103874064
If you are truly a game developer like you say you can afford a 5090 and tax deduct it.
If you are truly a game developer like you say you can afford a 5090 and tax deduct it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:45:22 No.103874070
>>103874064
Why wouldn't it be enough to do all that? It might be terrible value, but of course it'll be able to do that. I'd be more worried if you'll be able to buy one at all given how GPUs are typically sold out at launch nowadays.
Why wouldn't it be enough to do all that? It might be terrible value, but of course it'll be able to do that. I'd be more worried if you'll be able to buy one at all given how GPUs are typically sold out at launch nowadays.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:47:07 No.103874087
>>103874063
You'll be the only one seething since the chink scalpers will buy them all out before you even get a chance. Meanwhile the 9070 will be plentiful and I'll be able to walk into my local store and buy one on release day for MSRP.
You'll be the only one seething since the chink scalpers will buy them all out before you even get a chance. Meanwhile the 9070 will be plentiful and I'll be able to walk into my local store and buy one on release day for MSRP.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:47:26 No.103874089
>>103874064
if you do any form of work, nvidia will blow amd out of the water. plus you can use it to play around with ai stuff that's not necessary have to be inside a game
if you do any form of work, nvidia will blow amd out of the water. plus you can use it to play around with ai stuff that's not necessary have to be inside a game
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:47:43 No.103874091
>>103874045
Can you not read graphs?
A 850W Super Flower Leadex VII XG (80+ Gold $155) runs more efficiently past 500W than a 1000W 80+ Gold be Quiet Pure Power 12 ($145).
The 850W Leadex XG even has a wider 92-94% efficiency band than a 1000W.
This $145 1000W PSU isn't even optimally efficient at your suggested 50% point.
Fucking retard.
Can you not read graphs?
A 850W Super Flower Leadex VII XG (80+ Gold $155) runs more efficiently past 500W than a 1000W 80+ Gold be Quiet Pure Power 12 ($145).
The 850W Leadex XG even has a wider 92-94% efficiency band than a 1000W.
This $145 1000W PSU isn't even optimally efficient at your suggested 50% point.
Fucking retard.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:48:24 No.103874093
>>103874091
Your graphs don't validate your argument.
Your graphs don't validate your argument.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:49:35 No.103874101
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:49:47 No.103874102
>>103874093
It just did, and completely BTFO'd yours.
Not every 1000W PSU's efficiency sweet spot is @ 50%.
Don't make generalized statements that can be debunked within minutes.
It just did, and completely BTFO'd yours.
Not every 1000W PSU's efficiency sweet spot is @ 50%.
Don't make generalized statements that can be debunked within minutes.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:50:01 No.103874105
Is it still worth it to have a separate OS drive?
If so, how big should it be?
Searching keeps saying 1tb but my current OS drive is from 2017 and only 110 gb which was fine till recently. Would 500 be enough or is it not worth it pricewise to downgrade from a 1tb?
The mobo Im looking at has like 4 M.2s so I have the ability
If so, how big should it be?
Searching keeps saying 1tb but my current OS drive is from 2017 and only 110 gb which was fine till recently. Would 500 be enough or is it not worth it pricewise to downgrade from a 1tb?
The mobo Im looking at has like 4 M.2s so I have the ability
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:51:00 No.103874115
>>103874008
I was offered a replacement but the store has no stock of anything because the generation is coming to an end so I opted for a refund. I worded it poorly im sorry.
I bought it at the end of last year and it started out great, it was doing everything I wanted perfectly but it started to degrade to the point of crashing out every game I tried to play, I spent a month trying everything I could but nothing worked so I assumed it was the card itself
Took it back and they tested it, confirmed it was
I was offered a replacement but the store has no stock of anything because the generation is coming to an end so I opted for a refund. I worded it poorly im sorry.
I bought it at the end of last year and it started out great, it was doing everything I wanted perfectly but it started to degrade to the point of crashing out every game I tried to play, I spent a month trying everything I could but nothing worked so I assumed it was the card itself
Took it back and they tested it, confirmed it was
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:52:23 No.103874129
>>103874105
It's more that it's just not worth the price of buying a 512GB drive at all anymore, including on clearance sales or whatnot.
It's more that it's just not worth the price of buying a 512GB drive at all anymore, including on clearance sales or whatnot.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:53:58 No.103874141
>>103874102
You haven't debunked anything and also you're trying to change your argument now.
You haven't debunked anything and also you're trying to change your argument now.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:56:24 No.103874166
>>103874069
A small indie developer bro, I just do it as a hobby with a friend of mine, not an actual company. I do however need to do simulation stuff in my university, so I thought I should get something that can handle unity 3d stuff
>>103874070
I am planning to buy one in march/April, I'm sure by then there will be more in stock. I'm just worried thaz scalpers will increase the price by 1.5x-2x or something. Would you say there is a better alternative? Technically the VRAM that AMD throws at you is also pretty neat for that stuff and it might be enough for the rest as well. Or I guess a 4080 super
>>103874089
Yeah the ai stuff seems to be the deciding factor. Since I'm not really and artist, I would probably try to get some help from ai image generators.
A small indie developer bro, I just do it as a hobby with a friend of mine, not an actual company. I do however need to do simulation stuff in my university, so I thought I should get something that can handle unity 3d stuff
>>103874070
I am planning to buy one in march/April, I'm sure by then there will be more in stock. I'm just worried thaz scalpers will increase the price by 1.5x-2x or something. Would you say there is a better alternative? Technically the VRAM that AMD throws at you is also pretty neat for that stuff and it might be enough for the rest as well. Or I guess a 4080 super
>>103874089
Yeah the ai stuff seems to be the deciding factor. Since I'm not really and artist, I would probably try to get some help from ai image generators.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:56:46 No.103874170
>>103874115
That sucks Anon, but at least they gave you your money back so you can think of it like renting the XTX for awhile for free. And with the money back you ought to be able to rebuy a stronger card for the same price after new ones launch.
That sucks Anon, but at least they gave you your money back so you can think of it like renting the XTX for awhile for free. And with the money back you ought to be able to rebuy a stronger card for the same price after new ones launch.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:57:31 No.103874174
>>103874141
>So a 1000 watt PSU will waste the least amount of electricity at 500 watt loads.
I just proved that's not always true. >>103874091
I accept your concession.
>So a 1000 watt PSU will waste the least amount of electricity at 500 watt loads.
I just proved that's not always true. >>103874091
I accept your concession.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)23:59:11 No.103874186
>>103874174
That graph says what I said is true. You'd have to be pulling form the whole system, all components, for the 50% mark to not be the target. Can you read your graph?
That graph says what I said is true. You'd have to be pulling form the whole system, all components, for the 50% mark to not be the target. Can you read your graph?
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:02:04 No.103874213
>>103874186
The black band is the most power efficient area (92-94) of the 115V efficiency chart, and the most efficient area for the 1000W be Quiet unit is below 500W.
Are you blind? You lost.
The black band is the most power efficient area (92-94) of the 115V efficiency chart, and the most efficient area for the 1000W be Quiet unit is below 500W.
Are you blind? You lost.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:03:06 No.103874222
>>103874129
Looking at the sale prices now, makes sense. The way the other forums were phrasing it made it seem like you needed 1tb for the OS for some reason.
Looking at the sale prices now, makes sense. The way the other forums were phrasing it made it seem like you needed 1tb for the OS for some reason.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:05:49 No.103874246
>>103874170
I liked it when it was working so I wouldnt mind another but they are ebay pricing only here so its not worth it anymore, I will probably just find someone offloading a 4090 now people are scrambling to put money together for upgrades
Its a shame but what can you do
I liked it when it was working so I wouldnt mind another but they are ebay pricing only here so its not worth it anymore, I will probably just find someone offloading a 4090 now people are scrambling to put money together for upgrades
Its a shame but what can you do
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:07:31 No.103874256
>>103874186
The most efficient operating wattage for that 1000W unit according to Cybenetics is around 300W (91.875%), kek. You lose.
I picked that PSU as a comparable unit because of the $10 market price difference from the $155 Leadex XG 850W.
https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2159/
So you should be running that PSU at 30% load if you want to maximize it's lifespan, not your arbitrary 50% mark.
Stop sharing antiquated, generalized PSU operating efficiency advice.
The most efficient operating wattage for that 1000W unit according to Cybenetics is around 300W (91.875%), kek. You lose.
I picked that PSU as a comparable unit because of the $10 market price difference from the $155 Leadex XG 850W.
https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluati
So you should be running that PSU at 30% load if you want to maximize it's lifespan, not your arbitrary 50% mark.
Stop sharing antiquated, generalized PSU operating efficiency advice.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:12:07 No.103874287
>>103874213
Lost what? You changed your argument. At first it was "just consume the new PSU" and "power efficiency isn't real". Now it's "don't aim for 50% on this one specific PSU" even though your graph doesn't really show that. You found one product that costs too much money because it didn't hit the sweet spot, btw. That 1000W PSU costs twice as much as a high end 850W PSU because it has to adhere to the 80 plus regulations.
Lost what? You changed your argument. At first it was "just consume the new PSU" and "power efficiency isn't real". Now it's "don't aim for 50% on this one specific PSU" even though your graph doesn't really show that. You found one product that costs too much money because it didn't hit the sweet spot, btw. That 1000W PSU costs twice as much as a high end 850W PSU because it has to adhere to the 80 plus regulations.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:15:42 No.103874321
>>103874287
You're the retard who was giving out a generalized statement that 1000W PSUs run most efficiently at the 50% point.
The burden is on you to prove a majority of 1000W PSUs out there run most energy efficiently @ 500W, which you can't.
You're the retard who was giving out a generalized statement that 1000W PSUs run most efficiently at the 50% point.
The burden is on you to prove a majority of 1000W PSUs out there run most energy efficiently @ 500W, which you can't.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:17:16 No.103874333
>>103873933
True. It does make sense for people so mentally ill they really can't function in society and largely just stay at home, to start shitting up generals online with their 16/7 presence.
True. It does make sense for people so mentally ill they really can't function in society and largely just stay at home, to start shitting up generals online with their 16/7 presence.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:18:01 No.103874340
>>103874321
So far I'm right and you're weirdly arguing with thermodynamics. And no, you haven't made an argument worth a damn yet.
So far I'm right and you're weirdly arguing with thermodynamics. And no, you haven't made an argument worth a damn yet.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:18:24 No.103874344
>>103874287
>That 1000W PSU costs twice as much as a high end 850W PSU because it has to adhere to the 80 plus regulations.
The cost difference between these two PSUs (850W & 1000W) is fucking $15 dollars in the US. They're both 80+ Gold-rated units.
And this little exercise shows how worthless that certification is.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fKHqqs/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn506
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RdHqqs/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14xg
>That 1000W PSU costs twice as much as a high end 850W PSU because it has to adhere to the 80 plus regulations.
The cost difference between these two PSUs (850W & 1000W) is fucking $15 dollars in the US. They're both 80+ Gold-rated units.
And this little exercise shows how worthless that certification is.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fK
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rd
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:21:38 No.103874377
>>103874344
That 1000W PSU costs twice as much on newegg as an 850W PSU. Try actually looking on newegg.
That 1000W PSU costs twice as much on newegg as an 850W PSU. Try actually looking on newegg.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:22:09 No.103874380
>>103874340
Except your generalized statement isn't true.
Here's a popular 1000W PSU (RMe) that runs most efficinetly at UNDER 50%.
You're the one arguing against thermodynamics with your blanket "most energy efficient operation @ 50% load" claim.
Except your generalized statement isn't true.
Here's a popular 1000W PSU (RMe) that runs most efficinetly at UNDER 50%.
You're the one arguing against thermodynamics with your blanket "most energy efficient operation @ 50% load" claim.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:23:36 No.103874388
>>103874380
It is. So far nothing you've said is true except that one PSU has a strange power curve, which is partially explained by its high price
It is. So far nothing you've said is true except that one PSU has a strange power curve, which is partially explained by its high price
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:24:10 No.103874393
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)00:28:05 No.103874423
>>103874388
>It is.
Read the efficiency table for the RMe 1000W unit shithead, it's most optimal operating wattage is at around 300W, not the 50% mark as you generalized.
>So far nothing you've said is true except that one PSU has a strange power curve,
Why don't you find a PSU with a "normal" power curve?
>It is.
Read the efficiency table for the RMe 1000W unit shithead, it's most optimal operating wattage is at around 300W, not the 50% mark as you generalized.
>So far nothing you've said is true except that one PSU has a strange power curve,
Why don't you find a PSU with a "normal" power curve?
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)01:22:52 No.103874874
>>103873411
barely care about dsc, but firmware annoyances that could easily not be a thing is annoying
>>103873566
>The monitor will automatically start the panel protect process when I set the monitor on standby and if it's past the 4 hour cleanup interval.
on the philips it should work like this too, some times however, it has not started even if I went to sleep and check the timer and it's somehow at 12hour count
then you start using it, you get a forced refresh
I know, first world problems, but why should anything be acceptable when you are paying 1k+
I already said this was horrible pre to buying but it seemed fine, but eh, mostly fine
>You're going to develop health issues if you continue to sit and stare at your PC monitor for 4 consecutive hours at a time, let alone 16 hours.
like I said it's not like you are sitting infront of it 16 hours straight, but the buggy firmwares not refreshing during off times or whatever and also the forced ones that could easily be avoidable, just refresh it when it turns off, even if it negatively effects the panel long term, whatever, I don't care
I'm guessing all qdoled monitors behave like this, not sure if asus has a forced 16 hour refresh if you ignore it all the way, or sony, asus is filled with firmware bugs too, this is insane for 1.5k+ monitors, anyway
an lcd does not complain, it just runs without annoying you, like a monitor should, but, if tvs are better I might just get a C4 42 instead
>or will force cleanup at the 16th hour.
tldr I don't like this
barely care about dsc, but firmware annoyances that could easily not be a thing is annoying
>>103873566
>The monitor will automatically start the panel protect process when I set the monitor on standby and if it's past the 4 hour cleanup interval.
on the philips it should work like this too, some times however, it has not started even if I went to sleep and check the timer and it's somehow at 12hour count
then you start using it, you get a forced refresh
I know, first world problems, but why should anything be acceptable when you are paying 1k+
I already said this was horrible pre to buying but it seemed fine, but eh, mostly fine
>You're going to develop health issues if you continue to sit and stare at your PC monitor for 4 consecutive hours at a time, let alone 16 hours.
like I said it's not like you are sitting infront of it 16 hours straight, but the buggy firmwares not refreshing during off times or whatever and also the forced ones that could easily be avoidable, just refresh it when it turns off, even if it negatively effects the panel long term, whatever, I don't care
I'm guessing all qdoled monitors behave like this, not sure if asus has a forced 16 hour refresh if you ignore it all the way, or sony, asus is filled with firmware bugs too, this is insane for 1.5k+ monitors, anyway
an lcd does not complain, it just runs without annoying you, like a monitor should, but, if tvs are better I might just get a C4 42 instead
>or will force cleanup at the 16th hour.
tldr I don't like this
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)01:26:10 No.103874901
>>103874874
Return the monitor while you can.
You have to be proactive with the panel refreshes if you don't want it to pop up at an inconvenient time, like starting it before a long computing session.
Return the monitor while you can.
You have to be proactive with the panel refreshes if you don't want it to pop up at an inconvenient time, like starting it before a long computing session.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)03:58:22 No.103875891
>>103874901
That is the gay part
Well, if would be an even less minor thing IF THE ACTUAL PIXEL REFRESH TRIGGERED when sleeping/standby
Some times it just does not for whatever reason
If the counter started at 0 every time you barely ever see it
The firmware implementation is not perfect
So at random times you will get fucked
Kinda gay
That is the gay part
Well, if would be an even less minor thing IF THE ACTUAL PIXEL REFRESH TRIGGERED when sleeping/standby
Some times it just does not for whatever reason
If the counter started at 0 every time you barely ever see it
The firmware implementation is not perfect
So at random times you will get fucked
Kinda gay
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)04:49:51 No.103876186
Realistically, how much better can we see temperature control with the use of liquid metal TIM on a GPU?
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)05:29:00 No.103876428
>>103876186
If you’re talking about liquid metal on the 5090 FE, the heatsink dimensions are still going to be its bottleneck.
If you’re talking about liquid metal on the 5090 FE, the heatsink dimensions are still going to be its bottleneck.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)06:19:39 No.103876734
>>103876186
Liquid metal is obsolete to PTM7950. Same perf but liquid is conductive and only lasts 3 years max.
Liquid metal is obsolete to PTM7950. Same perf but liquid is conductive and only lasts 3 years max.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)08:25:21 No.103877598
>>103874901
>>103875891
My PG32UDCP seems to refresh when it goes into stand by.
It got bugged by a notification once during the weekend but turned it off in the OSD.
Even when I was a neet IDK how you rack up 16 hours straight on a screen. You'd literally risk getting blood clots if your sitting.
>>103875891
My PG32UDCP seems to refresh when it goes into stand by.
It got bugged by a notification once during the weekend but turned it off in the OSD.
Even when I was a neet IDK how you rack up 16 hours straight on a screen. You'd literally risk getting blood clots if your sitting.