This is even more ESL than Character Action

>>700944658
you mean hack n slash games?
>god hand
beat em ups?

thoughts on phantom blade 0?

>>700944658
It's like you idiots are in some kind of competition to see who can think of the most retarded name to call these games. What's next? Attack action? Combat action? Fighting action?

>>700945648
Lock on in souls is what the noobs do. Fighting unlocked has always been superior since the ds1 days of dead angle'ing

>>700944918
They say it's more like NG, MGR and DMC than Souls and all that, but it's very obviously by far predominantly influenced by Sekiro and FROMSOFT over NG, DMC and MGR.
Most of the MGR influence we've seen from the game hasn't actual been that meaningful, just presentational stuff that isn't very impactful on the gameplay.


I mean, there's not even any real aerial combo moves, jumping and mildly complex inputs (as far as we know regarding complex inputs at this point)

My favorite Character Action Game is Elden Ring

>>700945868
ma'am this is a hack n slash thread take your souls shit elsewhere

>>700945868
you're expected to lock-on. it's just a badly made game so the camera doesn't work. they try to obfuscate how fucking shitty their camera system is by making every enemy bigger than you, but it still doesn't work because they all have super fast jumping attacks that make the camera shit itself

Two months have passed since the truth was unveiled.

112 new players have took on Shinobi since that time.

Only 2 conquered it on Normal (hardcore).

Only 1 conquered it on Hard (hardcore).

0 clears on Super (hardcore).

Shinobi remains the ultimate filter. Shinobi is the KING of hardcore.

>>700948190
I want that Hayabusa figure

>>700945998
no, it's obviously predominantly influenced by wo long and rise of the ronin, team ninja games.

>>700950742
I disagree

>>700949341
Revoltech released one recently.

>>700944918
Looks a lot better than Wukong or Lies of Pi. That last boss fight gameplay trailer sold me on it. What interests me most is how many different weapons there seem to be in it.

>>700945648
Every good action game has a lock on mechanic.

I'm replaying old God of War.

>>700950742
No one cares about those flops.

>>700949397
itagaki has never finished the game on master ninja

>>700952380
2 and 3 are my favorites. Ghost of Sparta is really cool too. It could have worked as the real GOW2 if it came out first.

>>700952958
2 must be the best game in the series, but it doesnt really have the best gameplay in the series unfortunately

>>700953587
2 arguably has the best bosses.

>>700944918
It looks like yet another generic modern action game inspired by Dark Souls and Sekiro. The difference is that, this time, they're marketing the game as an actual action game, despite the fact that game clearly plays nothing like a traditional action game.

>>700944658
>Violence Action
Your "character action" threads were all about how "character action" isn't a thing. Replacing "character" with "violence" isn't going to change anything. They are JUST "action games" [you stupid fucking moulie].

>>700949230
>shinobi nigger still hasn't changed this meme image
Japan being locked out of Super difficulty and no one buying Nightshade are the reasons they are so low btw

>>700953587
>2 is a massive step forwards in terms of gameplay
>let's you keep all your abilities in NG+
>3 comes around
>massive step back in terms of level design but has the best weapons in the series
>doesn't let you keep your stuff in NG+
How do you fuck up this bad? Why would you go through the trouble of designing and implementing four whole fucking weapons, having me upgrade them gradually and then not letting me use them for any significant amount of time?

>>700955335
that shit is supremely stupid yeah
there's a glitch that lets you force ng+ btw

DMC1 btfos so hard

>>700957607
Epic shitpost 3x3 sir

>>700957789
Stfu

>>700949397
Hey Im one of those 15k!

I'm playing Dynasty Warriors Origins now. It's not very good, even by musou standards.

>>700954903
I played 1 a while ago and the bosses were kinda bad except for Ares. I actually looked up what was even considered a boss in this game, and Medusa is one I guess even though she becomes a basic enemy soon after and gets combo’d to hell and back.
Hydra takes forever to kill too. Pandora’s Guardian is a neat gimmick but also takes a good while.

dead genre

>>700920002
Have YOU played NG? The dopplegangers in NG aren't man made clones. They are fiends. The Kasumi clones in DOA are test tube babies. A NORMAL HUMAN with a gun and some gernades isn't going to take a strand of Ryu's hair especially when he already stat mogs the damn roster without having to use the Dragon Sword. And I'm not even talking about True Dragon Sword Ryu. And let's not even talk about the most powerful man on the planet, Ryu dual wielding the True Dragon Sword and Blade of the Archifiend while using master level ninpo that makes Torn Shitter Blast look cute. Don't ever doubt my hero ever again.

>>700944658
why do you fags keep coming up with more and more retarded names for hack n slash games?

anyway I just got done getting all s rank on dmd on the original dmc so now i'm gonna play dmc 3

>>700961674
>skipping 2
>skipping any game
Gentlemen...

>>700957607
I dont know what am I looking at, is this some poop tuber's opinion and not your own?
if so, christ you are beyond pathetic

>>700944918
shit

>>700961757
I've played 2 several times (I dont know why I do this to myself) but this time I'm going for all S rank on all games except 2 because I dont feel like doing the equivalent of sticking needles on my testicles

>>700961960
>he won't try to S-Rank Lucia Mission 7 on DMD with Trish
If you can do that, you'll be acknowledged as the best DMC player.

>>700944918
another FOTM ching chong slop

>>700962070
that does sound tempting....
but no that game is so tedious, its ok on normal but I've tried hard mode and it just makes me want to go to work instead

>>700962196
>that does sound tempting....
Don't do it Anon. It was a joke. You'll go insane if you try it.

>>700945998
>They say it's more like NG, MGR and DMC than Souls
That's how they try to scam you into buying those games. Similar promises were made with Stellar Blade and Wukong.

>>700944918
I think it looks really cool and definitely has potential but I'm someone who enjoys a variety both action games and action RPGs. It has lock-on and stamina but it looks very fast paced and there's square/triangle combos as well.

>>700963215
>Don't do it Anon. It was a joke. You'll go insane if you try it.
oh thank god, I was already thinking about it

Lock-on rolling sideways >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking

>>700949397
That's sad

>>700963317
>looks very fast paced
Is this supposed to be "very fast"? I think I'm missing something, because I don't see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX1k0z

>>700961845
Where's yuor 3x3????

hmmmm.................................................................................................................................................................................i'm better than u lol

>>700964094
Fucked up the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX1k0z2pPY0

>>700944918
it looks fun
all i saw is a dude countering 4 people atacking him at the same time by jumping top of the fucking swords and i was sold
i miss hack n slash games that are not soul slop

>>700944861
>any beat-em-up with a sword makes it "hack n slash"
lol. I bet you think DMC and Bayo are hack-n-slash, even though "hack-n-slash" is reserved for musou games like Dynasty Warriors and Sengoku Basara. Two completely different genres, try and understand.

>>700949230
id say the 8 stage on fzero GX is harder than literaly anything else on this fucking list

>>700964190
>"hack-n-slash" is reserved for musou games like Dynasty Warriors and Sengoku Basara.
diablo is a hack n slash anon
hack and slash are beat em up games where you primarly use a sword

the games you said like disnasty warriors, sengoku basara, ninja gaiden 2 sigma on literaly any dificulty that isnt the final ones are MUSOU games

>>700964190
Bayo uses guns, therefore it's a shmup

>>700964190
how about you try my fist up your anus?

>>700964436
This nig gets it.

>>700964094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EonL-sReug
Yeah and here's some earlier boss footage that I found. Looks like fairly fast paced to me.

>>700964507
it clearly looks like its based on souls combat

>>700964584
I don't see a stamina bar.

>>700964584
>no rolls
>you can atack enemies and not just wait for them to atack you
>defending is a viable option
>good HITBOXES

looks nothing like souls slop

>>700964818
it still has that souls "stink" I mean I hope I'm wrong

so whats first berserker

>>700955165
cope

>>700949230
I always find it funny when people still to this day say the souls games are hard when even normies can beat them.

also wasnt expecting dmc 1 and 3 to be on tier 3

>>700952380
god I miss those games, 2 was my favorite but I loved the sense of adventure from the first game, reminded me of tomb raider at times but super violent

>>700965984
zoomers were so braindead to make such a claim in the first place and soulsfags are mostly kids who never touched any other game than their own

>>700966190
I still like demon's souls and dark souls 1 they were comfy dungeon crawlers (nowhere near as complex as an actual dungeon crawler) but when the series started focusing on lame boss fights I lost interest, they are not hard its just roll away or through the bosses attacks, hit him once maybe twice and get ready to roll again, repeat process until the game tells you to stop (boss dies) its just lame

>>700964507
Compared to traditional action games, it doesn't look all that fast. I don't get why some people are hyping this game up as an actual action game. It just looks like every other Chinese/Korean "action game" that's clearly just inspired by Sekiro and Souls games.

>>700944658
>Violence action games
ahahahahahahahahahahahah
I love it. It sounds like Honk Kong martial arts movie engrish while not being pretentious like "character action" or "stylish" action

Chat, do I use dpad or stick for Shadow of the Ninja — Reborn?

>>700969052
D-Pad

>>700944658
>Violence Action games
Stupid name that fits a dead genre.

>>700970169
shut the fuck up fag

>>700944658
They're all too hard for me aside from MGR and Hi-Fi Rush.

>>700964368
Basara is not a Musou in the slightest since it doesn't have battlefield management.

>>700970931
>Basara is not a Musou in the slightest
it is
> since it doesn't have battlefield management.
it does

>>700964368
>NG2 Sigma
>musou
YOU READ IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS
You can't make this shit up.

>>700971064
Nope they're all hallway games, 'Musou' isn't even a genre anyway it's just the name of a franchise.

>>700971578
>it's just the name of a franchise.
Do you have Downs or are you just trolling? 5/10, you got me to reply with genuine intrigue.

>>700971748
Don't be so stupid, we don't call action games DMCs now do we?

Is Sakuna part of the J-action canon?
https://youtu.be/kdxuAg6juQk

>>700964190
dynasty warriors is a musou
dmc is a hack n slash
god hand is a beat em up

>>700971885
>call action games DMCs now do we?
You would be surprised.

>>700963667
Lucia Mission 7 is the one with the underwater fishboss. In DMD, it's permanently invisible so you can't lock-on. It's the only boss that's easier woth Lucia than with Trish since Trish doesn't have the bombs that can do splash damage.

>>700971578
>Nope they're all hallway games,
why are you so insistent on being retarded about games you haven't played? do you go to nasa and tell them the sun revolves around the earth? shut the fuck up

>>700971946
i liked the combat in this but growing rice was so shit i quit in level 2
at least fairy bloom freesia is good

@700971578
t. nigger

>>700973996
This is almost every stage in this franchise, there's no morale, there's barely an allied army no armies fighting. There is no battlefield management maybe you should actually play the games

>>700974052
I felt the opposite way. Really liked the rice farming and saw the combat as Odin Sphere Lite, just a vehicle to pass the time and get items between harvest actions.

>>700964368
>Sigma 2
>Musou
Sigma 2 has nerfed enemy counts. Hell, I wouldn't count Vanilla 2 as a Musou. But Warriors Orochi is based for showing that Ryu Hayabusa is the strongest warrior in all of human history and mythology.

>>700974265
inb4 some fag says Orochi isn't musou.

>Violence Action
>"Violence is not about cutting an enemy into pieces or seeing a lot of blood," he says. "That's not what real violence is." To emphasise his point, Itagaki reaches for a sheathed samurai sword mounted in his office, and holds it out in front of me.

>"In the Japanese warrior tradition you would shame an opponent. A real sword expert would aim his slice at the first four fingers of his opponent's sword hand. This would cost a warrior his livelihood and someone suffering this wound would normally commit suicide rather than live without their sword hand.

>"That's what I consider to be real violence," he says, replacing the sword in its mount. "It's not about lopping off limbs. It is about the relationship between you and your opponent. In order to inflict these dishonouring wounds you would really have to hate your opponent and this is not what this game or this character is about."

Violence Action sounds based. It sounds cooler than Character Action, but it doesn't fit the genre. There is nothing violent about Ryu Hayabusa beheading his enemies as he is giving them honorable deaths.

>>700964156
>look it up
>it's just scripted bullshit
Way to get me interested for nothing.

>>700970850
no you shut the fuck up
enjoy your dead genre asshole

>>700974742
Also, Phantom Blade Zero is soulslop.