picrel is proof that the less software you have, the more will come out of it. Big DAWs are overwhelming and distracting.

https://vocaroo.com/1lmoVl0QRsh5

>>125167247
I think the guitar tones are good, and it's very pretty at times, but feels random and meandering. Not really a sense of rhythm outside of anything from the left-ear guitar. Also why is it so heavily panned? But I despite all that I think it's pretty cool, anon.

>>125166926
This wasn't done in soundforge like everyone says all the beats are perfectly quantized. Still a great album but the production was definitely more aided than the dubstep retrospective videos would tell you it is

it clicked lads

>>125167719
hold the door open, king, i'm trying really hard to get there myself

>>125167804
sorry friend but you will need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps

it didn't click

>>125167392
nothing was on the grid he worked on the drums until it looked like a fishbone retard

I'm looking for recommendations for a physical mixer. I want to be able to hookup at least four synthesizers, two mics, an electric guitar, and a bass guitar to it and have it record them all as separate tracks. I want to individually be able to work with each track's sound as far as gain go and also be able to apply some basic effects to it. For when taking things to a DAW though I want all the different sources to be coming out as separate tracks. I've heard good things about the Tascam Model 12, but just figured I would see if there are other ones folks recommend.

>>125166926
>He also frequently sampled atmospheric sounds such as rain and vinyl hiss,[1] as well as incidental noises taken from a variety of sources, including the video game Metal Gear Solid, Elliot Goldenthal's soundtrack for Alien 3,[4] and the sound of car keys from a Vin Diesel film.[2]
a lot of people are worried about using samples for legal reasons. also the average anon is clueless about things like analog warmth, in the modern age those things need to be added deliberately and some anons don't know what to do with it.

>>125171847
As an expression of his experience, the album sounds like a lot of lonely nights absorbing media during the post 9/11 period of hardcore moral and cultural degeneration where every day felt more stifling and unnatural than the last, mirrored by the changing means by which we consumed media at the time. If you were conscious at the time your lived experience is a commodity, one I think Burial the producer expended well on this record.

I want cool vocals but I don't have a cool voice

>>125173302
Make frens

>>125170918
can that tascam actually fit all those? If the 4 synths are going to be in stereo, you would need 8 connections just for that. Unless you don't care about any stereo effects like chorus and stuff that are built-in to the synths.

>>125174364
I was wondering that myself. I may have to go for the Tascam 16 to be safe, but right now I am more curious if this is the line of product I should be looking to get in the first place. My current setup is an absolute mess as I've got all my synths daisy chained to each other and then finally plugged into my audio interface which is then plugged into my computer and then I can hear the audio through my headphones synced with my computer. I'd really like to be able to just have absolutely everything going through the mixer and then have only the mixer connected to the interface.

>>125174800
isn't this a bad thing for recording? If you just have the mixer going into the interface, wouldn't that mean you would have to record everything together? Obviously you could just play one instrument at a time, but at that point, why not just buy a Scarlett 18i20 or something with all the inputs you could need and just do everything through an interface? Unless you have an awesome interface that you don't want to replace. In which case you could use ADAT or something to connect to slave interface, there's some interfaces that are ONLY inputs

>>125174840
that's why I want a multitrack mixer. that's what I'm asking about. there are mixers that send each source to the DAW as a separate track. from what I understand this Tascam is one of them. the cheaper mixers would have them all come as a single track which would indeed be a nightmare for recording

>>125174872
I didn't even know that was a thing desu. You mentioned in your past having all those sources come out as separate tracks and that's what my setup allows because i have an 18i20 myself. Even though the name is misleading because it's only 4 sets of stereo inputs. Sorry I couldn't be of any help. I'll have to do my research on these myself because I've considered simplifying my setup.

>>125170918
no reason for a mixer unless you already have one. get an audio interface with enough inputs

>>125175109
>>125174979
I'm still very new to music so maybe I just don't understand the difference and it is actually an audio interface I'm looking for. I have your generic 2i2 right now. I don't intend to do anything outside of my home, but I want to be able to do things like say output all these separate instruments so that my friends can hear them in a Discord call for example. I want to be able to separately adjust their gain.

>>125175169
You can adjust the gain on each input on the interface. Also obviously you can reduce the volume of something going into the interface. I usually leave my interface inputs at the lowest volume because it seems to reduce the noise floor that way. And obviously if something else is affecting the channels, like a DAW, then you can do whatever you want.

As for your discord question, I know discord only takes one mic input so i dunno how you're gonna route all that stuff into discord. Also you will get the raw signal from the inputs, so if you're using something like say, a NeuralDSP plugin for your guitars, the people on discord won't hear that, they'll just hear the raw, unprocessed sound. You would maybe need to do some weird Virtual Audio Cable stuff.

>>125174872
TE TX-6 has 12 in 12 out mode and it is an interface. basically exposing 6 stereo channels to daw. if you use splitter cables you can combine two mono tracks on the same track which if i'm counting correctly should get you all the inputs you need, and you can expose all 12 tracks to the daw and sum them as needed.

probz back to weird stuff for the rest of the day because the brain is not braining rn :|

https://vocaroo.com/1a6pKOwY9j2o

>>125176326
>https://vocaroo.com/1a6pKOwY9j2o
tame the sub. this mix is pyramidal (fat in the low freqs, quiet on top)
some annoying tinniness on the build up sound
but this is cool

>>125176326
I like it. Kick might be a little much. Are you normally pink-haired anime anon? I said I appreciated your sound design earlier, but if it's not them, I still appreciate it now. I just think everything sounds nice, big, and crisp. Would you give any insights into your sound design/production process?

>>125176360
yep i agree with everything you say; i haven't mentally settled on how i want everything to sit yet so i didn't spend time tweaking that all

>>125176368
possibly, i could not say. bocchi is a popular show, as are many anime, so who knows !

>Would you give any insights into your sound design/production process?
yeah, sure though

so I pretty much always separate sound design and composition sessions, but i always start them with a core idea in mind (either a style of song i want it to fit (usually with a reference) or a sound design concept or specific synth or aspect of it i want to explore etc).
-these sessions are pretty evenly split between what's supposed to be stuff that are "one offs," leads, stuff that would be hard to fit in randomly without an idea already in mind or the arrangement molded around it etc, and then "bread and butter" stuff that's intended to be used over and over, like the bass in this song for example, and pretty much all of the thinks and amens i use (edited to roughly how i would expect to use them but lacking things that are hard to go back on like excessive distortion etc); that saves a lot of time, of course.

The main idea for this one of course was to do something based on a stab, which was just stacking one from "Best Service Horny Sounds" some foley for the transient, and going heavy on Airwindows ZOutput because ayy 90s lmao.
I always bounce out variations (pic rel) anticipating B sections for these type of songs, thinking about fills and accents and stuff like that.

... lots of resampling and referring back to previously made material

It sucks to abandon something you've been working on for a week because you just can't do it. I know I just have to move on and come back to it later when I've attained more knowledge, but damn is it demotivating. /blog

>>125176630
>pretty much all of the thinks and amens i use
okay, so whats the deal here. can we use the think break? have lawyers just given up on this battle? what's the story?

>>125176675
yes

>>125176630
thanks for the answer, and also like you told the other anon, you might just need a break and revisit. I find stuff all the time the next day that I was wondering how I wouldn't notice some buildup of frequencies.

>>125176675
I didn't even know this was a concern. Especially the think break

>>125176663
what do you mean by this? you just can't do it in what way?

>>125176675
>goyim are using 5 seconds of sound of the negro we paid to bang sticks
>better sue
I can't stand them

>>125176969
>what do you mean by this?
just can't into constructing percussion samples with discrete frequencies instead of noise. thought I would have it by putting a modulating pulse wave through a square wave carrier and going from there, but it just didn't work out. I could see how to, vaguely, get a metallic percussive sound from it, but it just didn't lead to the specific sound I was going for. already spent 5 days hyperfocusing on this at the expense of everything else, so I'm dropping it in the hopes my studies elsewhere will lead to an unexpected breakthrough as I'm still a noob and can't get held up by this.

>>125177913
Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to discuss the Song A Day way of life?

Nah for real if you’re not already, quantity>quality for learning these types of things.
Making 100 different percussion sounds is going to get you way further than spending days slaving over this one

>>125178839
I feel you. It's less about the sample itself and more the methodology used in making it that I saw value in trying to distill and recreate it, but I'm sure I'll stumble upon on it eventually through other stuff. For now I'll just go back to trying my best to recreate basic tunes with only a few unique waveforms to worry about and try not to get too held up on whatever I can't recreate.

>>125179392
>https://vocaroo.com/153YEvFvApba
>ignore the noisey-ness
impossible because the chorus is spazzing out when the noise on the vocal sums with the percussion
the highs sound really muffled.
vocal completely dominates the mix, not sure what im supposed to listen to when it stops

>>125176630
Is there a garden on rednote?
肢体 nihao

>>125179583
there is now but if i ever suspect somebody i know is watching me stream anywhere i'm blocking them
(idk how it works there yet xD)

>>125166758
https://voca.ro/1cN3G8QBd2wd

>>125179634
Neat. It blows my mind how massive China is in terms of population. I won't give in to social media though -- maybe some day a YouTube with music videos that I will not promote at all.

this is the first and only song i have made so far, thoughts?

https://voca.ro/1eh70rR6cTod

>>125179709
Shit bro, stay strong.
Idg how anybody stays off social media, tiktok has been like 30% of what's keeping me sane

may the algorithm be ever in your favour

outro perhaps or re-spin-it BUT
now i nap

https://vocaroo.com/1eZVZ3h5hUci

>>125179711
good start, make more

>>125179711
Pretty good for a first song anon! It's simple but techno usually is pretty simple. A lot of techno tracks would repeat on a even shorter interval. I think you alternate every quarter bar like 1-2-2-2-1-2-2-2 then 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2, this pattern feels kinda weird. doing 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 gives techno the driving feel, then you can put the "2" in sporadically sort of like a stinger. Varying your beat is cool and is more integral to genres like IDM and breakcore where constant changeups contribute to a trippy and organic feel. but rigidly switching back and forth between these very sterile, techno-y patterns is perhaps a little jarring? Another way to think of it is in terms of micro and macro structure. Here your microstructure is kind of loose (your beat is slow repeating itself, but not too much happens in each cycle) and your macrostructure is pretty basic (just those 1-2-2-2/1-2-1-2 drum patterns, simple staggered tracks, one line of melody, and your little drop. which is all fine, those are good blocks to build from). If it were me I would try to tighten up the micro to make it more driving, and focus mostly on adding dynamics to the macro scale to give the track a greater sense of progression over time.

>>125180041
got some clipping around :22 or so, or at least that specific spot does not sound like the deliberate distortion. Got some cool sound design stuff going on. I like it.

>>125179711
Honestly pretty good for first loop/song, make the pad a octave higher, you really don't need the drums to be that loud for them to be punchy, remove the sub bass from the bass synth and add a separate one so it sounds cleaner and add some variations each 8 bars, even simple stuff like a extra hi hat can come a long way for that style of music.

I posted this clip a couple weeks ago: https://vocaroo.com/1KkDbaUMaSMT

I mixed it and added a little bit to it.
https://vocaroo.com/1lnrkMKdlHtP
It sounds better, right? Is that composition goofy as fuck still? I'm primarily a guitar player and this has none and I'm starting to realize I can only write guitar parts sometimes.

>>125180041
y u delet dis

don't forget to give chadchan(to me) some occasional props; he deserves some.

>>125180736
try adjusting the attack or disable tempo-sync/quantization if your daw allows you to

Is this cool and/or worth expanding? Or should I just cannibalize these drums for something else?
https://vocaroo.com/1cudAgwd8LdM

pretty devastated that phonk producers now think that baile funk is phonk
that genre is taking everything i love from me

>>125180845
Needs more distortion
The drums sound great though

>>125180078
thanks, will do

>>125180082
>>125180199
thank you for the feedback, i appreciate it a bunch

>>125181223
Thanks anon I liked how the drums came out too but I'm not happy with the rest. I will try more distortion lol

>>125180736
turn up the 4d3d3d3d3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqOs_ahSARM
Can anyone with a producer's ear please help me replicate a signal chain for this tone? From what I can hear it's definitely a marshall? (something about that rubbery, stretchy quality) and definitely some kind of modulation, I think it's vibrato? But I'm missing a lot.

>>125182318
For which part?
The guitar?
Compression, overdrive, EQ. Any amp can do this.

>>125182352
Yes the guitar. Can you please give me some more specific pointers? I can't see how I could replicate that screeching almost chorus-like sound with Compression, Overdrive and EQ. To me it sounds like there's at least reverb and a modulation effect at place. Particularly the very first notes

>>125182411
sounds like two guitars at once harmonizing to me

>>125182515
>>125182411
Yeah definitely two guitars at once playing an octave apart thats whats giving that chorus effect. There could be a touch of reverb but I'm not really hearing it in the mix.

>>125182515
>>125182628
Thanks anons. I'll try that.

OKAY I hear the solution now
and that solution is to completely steal the drums from another track in this style and then only slightly change the rhythm scheme :)

>>125182727
don't do this or i will rearrange all the furniture in your house

>>125182981
sorry wrong tab, meant for a /sp/ thread

>>125182848
idc i only use one room

>>125182981
SHUTUP SHUTUP SHU TY UP THATS. NOT. TRUE

another track transcribed. it isn't perfect, but I will press on.

>>125183768
One of the best things for practice you can do!

thought it clicked but alas it was just an illusion of self

>>125184846
https://youtu.be/eVTXPUF4Oz4?si=oGG7xqU95iiGwuTu

>>125174800
i had always thought a mixer doing what you say:
>source>mixer>DAW>output
would be best, but in reality i wanted
>Source>daw>daw channel strip>mixer
so you can add daw effects to the sound and process and then have physical mixer controls to actually set levels. an interface with many INs was much better for me, as a physical digital mixer was either just allowing some eq plus 1 or 2 sends to the channel when the real power was in the DAW channel strip.
you should draw out a flow of how you want to use your audio so you are clear at what point you want to be changing the sounds and how.

https://vocaroo.com/1eAfptbHjp8V
how do i make this sound better

>>125185680
moving everything out of the same space, mixing less hot, getting the boom under control, and sorry, but singing better and with a much catchier melody

Are there any super glaring issues before I put this out?
https://voca.ro/1iMMkFDtRyQi

Can any Logic chads tell me what sort of settings there are for comping take folders? I've been using logic X for years but in the last few weeks Logic X has started doing this weird thing where it won't comp smoothly anymore - it's either full of pops, or it ducks the volume of the tracks when they cross over. When I swipe to comp it looks like it's redrawing the waveform of the track to include a fade in that I don't want. It hasn't done this before and I haven't changed any of my settings. Is there a way to make it stop doing this?

>>125186657
the vocoder sounds like absolute shit and the panning on some things is incredibly bizarre

>>125186657
yeah your stereo correlation is not good

>>125186865
Any specifics on panning?

>>125180041
>>125180481
:^)
if this track is ever revived, this section will not be part of it
RAMBLE ON

https://vocaroo.com/1lTWOZrL1kgh

whats the best way/plugins/instruments to create athmosphere and sound like this? https://youtu.be/GTMk4qPTx90?si=36QZMCKnONjZ_EV0

how do we feel about this boys?
https://voca.ro/1ex79f12XJaZ

>>125186524
>singing better
to be fair tho i'm sick right now

I can understand mixing your own drum samples well but how the FUCK do people deal with all the bleed of live recordings
I think drums are a psyop and literally everything has been samples since the 90s and people just pretend in studio footage that they're tracking the whole kit live

>>125189034
By remembering that nobody is listening to individual isolated drums, and knowing how to work gain and gates probably

>>125189034
gates and the drummer not playing like a mong

how would one go about in making ambient background sounds? just fucking around with samples with delay and reverb?

>>125189527
Pads

>>125189527
Paul stretch

>>125186997
Oh shit, everything from 0:10 on is absolutely beautiful. That first chord/sound could use some tweaking, but I do love the idea going from some weird nasty dissonant sound to the lush part after.

FUCKING
V O C O D E R S

ooohhh so you're supposed to record midi input for the drums not draw them in like a schizo

>>125190186
People here lack the keyboard and harmony skills to really abuse vocoders
In fact vocoders are under used because of this exact reason

>>125190858
>People here lack the keyboard and harmony skills
literally just lay down some chords lol

>>125190858
vocoders are no under used. they largely suck and sound cheesy as fuck for their intended purpose. they get used for percussion

>>125190999
You realize some of the top 10 goat songs have vocoded vox? But they're cheesy to your allergies
>>125190980
Literal peasant tier usage but evidence of how powerful vocoders are that this works to such excellent effect

>>125191047
daft punk, pyt, that earth wind and fire song. it's hardly begging to be asked to be used on more things

>>125191163
Stay poor genius Imogen heap is also timeless

>>125191333
cringe boomer take. i actually listened to her back then and not at all now.

only jason derulo - whatcha say has >100M views on youtube kek

>>125191393
hide and seek is a top 3 song of all time
>Vocoders are gay
No u

the jason derulo song has a glorious produced sound. it's crazy and sad that anons are deaf to the sound. but good for me that i'll be able to use the sound for my own success.

>>125191433
none of her songs crack 100M views on youtube unless you count the sample in the jason derulo song which is a stretch

>>125191441
Obviously people have shit taste
Bodack yellow has a billion and it's top 50 hip-hop at best
Gangnam style is top 200 maybe
Dark horse maybe top 500

Art is too scary for normies

>>125191471
imogen heap is cringe lmao

>>125191433
lmao this is fucking awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYIAfiVGluk

>>125191488
SAD

>>125191497
Prod shown as always to be full of plebs stuck in their autistic worlds of such frustrated confusion even subtle girl vibes evoke the immutable ICK

>>125191512
nah fuck off you're probably a literal boomer with 20+ year old speakers. i don't like the songwriting in dark horse but i can appreciate the produced sound.

>>125191521
The lyrics are by far the best part holy shit

https://vocaroo.com/11cg3tHFQ5rR

These zoomers can't even into firework, let alone shit like into you or bye bye bye

>>125191544
the sound in the imogen heap song is really dull by modern standards and you can't even hear that

>>125191560
sounds cool. i'd want to carve out more room for the synth that comes in around 30s, doesn't feel like it has its own space enough in the spectrum. little too buried imo could maybe use little delays or light slapback

>>125191561
It's not surprising they're getting filtered by Imogen heap, im sure they find Ellie Goulding to be equally cringe
>>125191569
Dude it's an a cappella
It's like saying the beach boys are dated, doesn't make them any less timeless

>>125191636
Dont like Kate Bush either do you

>>125191660
literally who

ellie goulding has an artificial voice effect that has been played out by now, halsey is doing it too and people don't like halsey much

so there are 2 schizos trolling the thread now who don't make music? epic

this was auto-suggested in my feed after looking up autogynephilic boomer anon's random shit music
the production is pretty legit in a classic EDM type of way tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UGN3qqBWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR9G7ioLLmc
this is an older halsey song from 2014, it sounds noticeably duller even though the songwriting/composition is dope the production is less polished so it hasn't even got 48M views

>chasing the vogue
Is not how you make the vogue
>>125191727
Your god the algorithm
>>125191707
>Gatekeeping
Lmfao the DJ crew hasn't left I see. What a common trope among musicians, nauseating egomania, satanic shit is what it is

You are not the arbiter of art so why do you speak like you are?
>I understand what makes something popular see look there's a number
Retard summit

>>125191914
>>125191727
Dude just listen to ILLENIUM

>>125191949
it's considered common sense among professional producers/mixers to use analog warmth etc, but retards like you are unaware of it because you have woefully inadequate to listen with, you don't notice a quality difference between e.g. darude sandstorm, hampsterdance, crab rave compared to /dmp/ anons 90s trance tracks

>>125191962
That's gonna get an ok dude from me guy

>>125191976
cope

I made this for the other thread
https://voca.ro/1gUy4oE6Qily

>>125191979
Cults have entire lexicons of irrelevant vernacular dude but whatever you need to do to fit in please continue I wouldn't want the cold wind of loneliness to descend into your little atheist heart

Bob Dylan

>>125192008
kill yourself shitty troll, keep telling yourself that the only reason why you're not successful is that you haven't invented a specific mozart tier 4 chord progression and shakespeare lyric combo or that it's all marketing, that production quality is barely a thing, miserable old bastard

>>125192026
You want people to an hero? Guy, I suggest prayer
But that wouldn't please your lord of lies and darkness Satan the master of pure in vogue retail commercialism, your dearly desired communal validation

How absurd. You're just mad you suck too much at chords to vocode good

>>125192026
And Mozart SUCKS btw
Shakespeare however damn it I could weave words like that would be hot especially vocoded with phat altered dominants, -11$, maj9 omit 7, and nasty halfstep maj7s

>>125192056
i have a one in a million talent along with my technological advantage to hear the quality produced sound, it's a life changing level of enjoyment that i get out of listening to this commercial 'slop', fucking retarded shit can't even wrap your head around the most obvious examples

shut the fuck up

>>125192075
talent is built dude and mine is 1 in infinity

Anyone who thinks
>That sound is dated
Is only capable of copying, not creating
LMAO

>>125191985
i liked it but it gets muddled halfway through

>>125189756
Thanks fren

>>125191985
https://voca.ro/1mN1Vhcz0EnR

>>125189034
>>125189058
>gates
whats stopping you from manually crossfading each sample to taste? nothing

>>125193177
Me coming into your house and rearranging all of your furniture.

What's the verdict on OP-XY? Is it worth buying?

>>125186952
Just got home. It's got a wide stereo image, but there's not major issues when mono summed, and izotope imager is showing its hitting where it should be? Only in the bridge it gets close to 0 on the meter, and never close to negative.

programming shakers hats 2 kicks and a bass independently so they all glue in an organically evolving but minimal way as a unit ensemble is an exercise in insanity no wonder everyone is so obsessed with loops and sample cutting

>>125193215
Are you going to use it? Is it worth the money to you?

>>125193549
Nah it’s super easy actually I never used a top loop in my life git gud kid

>>125193577
Let me complain about the simple things I'd be terribly bored otherwise

https://voca.ro/12rjONd512cY
I need to finish composing this...

>>125193692
okie sorry
*dabs on you*

>>125193549
Cutting your own loops is harder than just playing one shots

just practice remaking loops from packs with one shots and you’ll pick up on how to get that same groove dw bro

is there a good channel to watch on just making simple beats or something
I want to up my game

>>125194040
Julien Earle :)

>>125194044
lol

>>125194044
this ok I guess but the way he shows stuff he doesn't really explain why he did certain stuff, just that he did it and this is how

>>125194040
Rick Beato

jus b makin bullshit
https://vocaroo.com/1a4Hq8N3TUOR

>>125194224
keep it up bro. if we keep making bullshit every day, one day we'll just be making bull

>>125193886
One shots across 5 instruments? Idk...
Idk I guess I've been drawing in all this time, and now I'm using midi to input samples and desu the music is much more organic idk wtf I was doing before
Maybe for a chorus id get some super loop going so ig the year of meme looping was worth it but I was never going to drum machine my way to something organic

>>125194261
one day brother

>>125194270
It's 10 instruments
All playing weird ensemble stuff where each souns introduces or continues another sound
Crazy I hadn't done this before
Sounds kinda pro desu
No more clap on 2/4
No more hats on all the ups
No more 4 on floor
No static shakers or 16th hats
No boring bass loops

What the fuck happened

>>125193555
>Are you going to use it?
I can imagine several applications I'd have for it but the problem is
>Is it worth the money to you?
It's a lotta money. I like the object but I don't like what it costs.

>>125166758
https://vocaroo.com/1bsIaeTTyeUa

^tried polishing this demo from a few years ago, not as a single but just as a B-side

real version would have real drums and guitars obviously, but just based on the polished vocal demo, i’m certain that this song won’t be worthy for release
but it gets a funeral in /prod/ which is nice

https://vocaroo.com/1dox3UjgbRM3
^ also worked on this demo from 2022

https://vocaroo.com/1g8JBaVCSJQi
now the instrumental sounds like this. everyone hates the new claps and the new version cos it’s not lo-fi. but if i had the SKILL to make this song sound like father john misty back in 2022, i would’ve done it this way. idk if it’s worthy of a RELEASE like this, but, like the other song, i’m glad to have some CLOSURE with it

https://vocaroo.com/1b0rus6eWVB7
^ we also received this master from a fairly famous (pricey) engineer this week. she contacted us asking why we hadn’t responded to her last email, turns out she wasn’t done lol. i’m very happy with her new final master, i’m sure it will be popular. stressed cos we don’t have anything similar-sounding to release as a follow up, but i'll work on more demos next weekend

diary-postan: ex texted me on christmas at midnight “can i ask you a question” and then it turned out she just wanted to know if i still had that bump on my back and that i should get it removed. the romantic that i am, i got it out last week (pic related), asked her out to the ice rink today without mentioning it, and… the text never delivered cos she blocked me at some point between christmas and today. the band gets bigger, the day job gets more lucrative, life gets objectively better, but i still feel like offing myself all the time. she was the only person that ever really made me feel happy, or like my life was real. all i can do is move on, but i just feel so detached from people around me, like they don’t really see me, and in turn i act so cold towards them. idk how this ends

Any reccs for a very basic DAW? Basically I just want to do piano, strings and some noise stuff, kinda like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg98rp0HPh0

I have Windows and Mac, so anything for either OS is fine.

I'm gonna be so fucking rich

Airwindows: BassAmp

>>125194905
You could probably get by just fine in Garageband with some free 3rd party VSTs. Decent Sampler + sample libraries found at https://www.pianobook.co.uk/ would be a good (free) start.

>>125195414
plugins, not VSTs specifically

>>125195422
sorry you're wrong

>>125194905
reaper you can try it for free and it lets you keep using it after the trial has expired like winrar

>>125194957
ok buddy you can't even appreciate the timbre of a good synth

>>125193216
most songs have the main vocals mostly in the center

>>125197142
lol

>>125194905
2nd Reaper. There's a bit to learn at first but overall it's very good for just hitting record, plus you'll have a lot of further potential if you want to get more indepth with it later. And yeah, free.

>>125194905
Max/MSP

>>125194851
>https://vocaroo.com/1b0rus6eWVB7
I think I've listened to most of your iterations of this song, anon, and although I think it's gay as hell with cringe lyrics, I would say that this version sounds incredible compared to the others. Not even close, this one shits on the rest and is probably one of the most complete sounding mixes that has been posted here that I can think of at least (and I lurk and listen to almost everything).

>>125198802
isn't the chorus riff straight out of an existing song

https://voca.ro/17SeDzo0sTI7

>>125198802
I pictured a bunch of train-hopping crust punks singing this with their arms linked in a circle dancing around their last box of wine

>>125197142
>>125197200
Interestingly I ended up listening to lots of music mono summed the other day, and some mainstream artists post 00s just don't care about sounds disappearing when mono.

>>125196358
I am gonna be soooooooooo fucking rich

>>125195414
Nice, thanks man. I've wondered about Garageband since it's already installed and pretty basic, James Ferraro also uses it as I recall. Any VSTs you could recommend?

>>125196348
>>125197302
Has Reaper improved the piano roll capabilities? I used Reaper years ago but mostly for mixing and mastering as the piano roll and actual music creation features were really lacking.

>>125200991
the traditional hi-fi stereo listening experience is great, headphone anons don't get it. for mono, people are going to accept that it's not hi-fi, you just need get the gist of the melody and lyrics

>clap percussion sound that just looks like a pulse wave
nani the fuck

>>125201118
there can only be relatively few top tier successful producers like timbaland, calvin harris, dj khaled. everyone else, all the anons, all the music theory and songwriting youtubers, are cargo cult tier delusional, even the music production youtubers might have somewhat of a clue but they still don't have the complete picture.

i can make a pretty cool kick sound with my throat

https://voca.ro/1oG5cH4cx4l2

some artists only made 1 good song almost by accident, they don't really know what they're doing, so people still dickride the beatles for being able to make a lot of hits in different styles in a relatively short period of time, people think it's almost like magic or some extremely rare genius level talent

anons itt don’t even know how to use wavetables
they run around constantly chasing the newest toys when they don’t even have the skill to make use of synthesizers utilitized by top tier producers like native instruments massive to make the most successful songs

>>125202157
I am going to be soooOooOoOOooO fucking rich

It's so funny like
>I don't believe in myself and you shouldn't either
Is about the most deplorable thing you can possibly think say or believe. This mindset defines every aspect of your existence and no I won't be joining you in the land of LALALA absurdity
The best part? These same people are the ones who chase in vogue sounds, think such and such is a dated dead end, and claim they're musicians when they just chop splice loops into predefined beats found on millions of top 500 chart tracks in whatever fringe style they find most personable
And then they wonder why they'll never be like DJ Khaled

The mindfuck is such a twisted labyrinth of bullshit I can only really recommend prayer to escape the satanic nightmare you've concoted for yourselves

https://voca.ro/1mGToD3P3qYT

I need help with mixing

Does anyone fuck with this? I think people would like to dance to it.
https://voca.ro/1eFMnFAOEkqL

Bros locked in the grid bros pls unlock the grid escape the prison of the piano roll this may take 3-5 years of gridding but bros escape the grid

>>125198802
all i can say i guess is, god bless $600 stem mastering by engineers that really know how to do it

How can I get signed to Sony, I'm a DJ

>>125206028
You start local begging any venue with speakers
You always kill in cold blood
You shamelessly shi yourself and go to as many social functions as possible
You shill socials
You recycle this until you're able to tour
And then you keep recycling that until you have clout

>>125166758
https://vocaroo.com/1ekfoFKIdvU1

>>125202374
I like going grrrrroowwllll wub wub rawr prrr prrr prrr wup wup brrrrrrrrrap swisshhhhhh

https://vocaroo.com/1aOLpprec8iu
just started this a couple hours ago
it's not really mixed/mastered yet but does it have potential?

>>125206643
no, you sound genuinely mentally stunted, like a downsy at karaoke.

>>125206710
ermm it's called mumble delivery and actually it's an aesthetic choice

>>125206720
how about you mumble on these nuts after I deliver them into your mouth?

>>125175270
does teenage engineering make products for straight people or are they completely focused on the homosexual and retard market?

>>125207276
rude

>>125203522
you have toxic positivity, you think you can get a participation trophy while not even trying to learn when i spoonfeed you examples of songs that obviously have better production quality and therefore it's not surprising that they're successful, /mu/ anons are well known to have a fringe taste in music and most anons aren't even trying to make money (or so they claim), you're the odd one out for thinking you have what it takes when it's clear that you don't even have the audio to listen with to develop more of a common sense music taste

>>125207494
Stahp projecting

>>125207494
>you have toxic positivity
how long do I have to live doctor?

>>125207494
>>125203522
what the fuck are either of you even talking about lmaooo
>make up people in head
>angrily post about them on a cartoon forum

I want a stat breakdown of this general so fucking bad like 100% we all know the most chronic posters are spending the least amount of time working on music kek

>>125207849
You've completely lost it

>>125207934
>seethe cope dilate kys tier response
You got me!

>>125208018
Heh, gotten

Do you guys even add dark noise to your master?

>>125208163
No wtf

>>125208169
What about WIDE noise?

does anyone here hoard mix with the masters episodes? they always get taken down super quickly in warez sites and I wanted to watch the latest billie eilish one.

Where have you guys sold your equipment before? I'm trying to sell my piaggero np 15. Ebay says around 200 for it, if I bring it to the pawn shop I know they'll try to gimp me on it. Do you guys go to local music shops?

>>125208646
bro ain't never heard of reverb

>>125208646
that's the brand new price in my country kek

maybe my country hasn't kept up with prices on some things because of currency fluctuations idk. i got a great deal on a virus kc and the seller shipped it to me, most sellers of 61 keys in my country sell with local pickup only. for me it's endgame tier and not just a poorfag cope, i like the aesthetic with the black shell (ti2 has a grey shell) and it has the keybed that i want. i have seen some virus kb/kc online with the newer style of keybed but most of them have this vintage style fatar TP/8S with the narrower black keys (moog one also uses it) that people say they prefer over the newer TP/8S with the wide flat black key tops like on the ti/ti2 61 key keyboards.

AIRWINDOWS

i just want to make it

>>125209159
All you have to do is pay the price

>>125209192
time?

>>125209201
Every last drop

>>125209298
but i gotta eat

>>125209319
you literally don’t
I just hit 18.5 bmi because I’m dedicated to my craft

>>125209372
nah that ain't healthy

>>125209386
ya okay fatty have fun not making it

https://vocaroo.com/1ifPm4zGDwyl

HMMMMMM idk tho
new goal weight is uhh

If you knew what I could do to your subwoofer you'd fly to my house and steal all my wavs

LIKE WINDOWS IN THE AIR

>>125207849
>most chronic posters are spending the least amount of time working on music
just like /ic/

>>125211327
defense mechanisms are innumerable but airwindows is singular

>>125211402
they aren't even using sub audible noise brooo

>>125211402
As a newbie who is still learning, what is so great about airwindows shit? The YT vids is some insufferable boomer shizo ranting about what the plug in supposedly does while walls of text flash by, then when you try it, it either sounds like shit or seemingly does nothing. Granted, I might not be big brained enough to get the subtle nuances of half the shit that rambling nerd makes, but at least with something like vintage verb (as a random example) there is a noticeable difference when I play about with it and it sounds good. Can't say the same for hotairwindows. Feels like pretend plugins for posers and pseuds to feel special about.

>>125211929
To be fair, you have to be very skilled for airwindows plugins to make a noticeable difference in your overall sound.
Most producers are not intelligent enough, nor do they have good enough audio to hear the difference airwindows will make.
Stick to fabfilter plugins kid

>>125211929
Dude. Dude dude dude my guy brother man. Airwindows is all you need. You don't understand, maybe one day you will, it's a complicated little thing. But other plugs are fat, commercialized, production items, with a brand and character, for a high price. Each one is like a rapper or a pop star, they take up all the space doing their one thing, and then you have shekelsbergs noise crowding all the butter out

Airwindows is like a grain of sand if it was a knife slicing windows into sound. And if you get a handful of sand and it blows into the wind, you can get beautiful tornados inside of tornados of beautiful madness

Perhaps extremely tedious, but nothing else can ever remotely ever hope to achieve what you can do with airwindows

Airwindows drives trillions of dollars in speakers for hundreds of millions of dancers globally. Softshekelstubesbergs need to make sure they're obvious enough to give your Sony monitors a nice wiggle wiggle for your dollarinas

I’ve been writing this zoomer shoegaze song in my head since like November and it sounds bad still why am I so bad at rawk
._.

Today I will put reverb on the sub bass.

>>125211929
just ignore it, it's either the boomer schizo himself who shills it especially on /g/ when he posts "it's here" with the youtube link and nothing else, he shills his videos on another forum as well that tolerates it. or it's some really pathetic dickriding by /g/ nerds who live vicariously through him like he's some genius programmer who fights the good fight for free software.

>>125212188
This is actually completely okay only noobs don’t know about the bass trickery

skronkin my shit with guitarhall and mastering

>>125212204
Filtered as per usual I bet you still use the grid too
>>125212084
Less is more
>>125212188
I have you don't wanna know how many sub layers and most of them are have verb

>>125212287
Ah I suppose it's important to note the tail is basically non existent and it's almost inaudible and usually shoved to mono perhaps sometimes I'll have some fun in stereo and then monoize the layer maybe with a dial maybe with a button maybe I'll automate it maybe I won't but when you realize that phase isn't the enemy but the friend and little swishy swishes are like wind in the rain you'll know

>>125212401
Oh yeah except for the times it isn't non existent and I want thunderclouds, maybe I want to have

My thunderclouds vibrate sheets of metal
Perhaps however through
comforters
with a warm fuzzy wind blowing
through the window

proof a hissing snek
boom boom, clouds..
the sound of a sunset,

today I like dog noises, I had lots of
cat noises yesterday,
and panthers in the night,
ah yes their purrs turn the wind to
sand

Unironically just give me a sine wave and airwindows plugins and I’ll btfo you out

>sounds like shit
>Submerge everything in fuckloads of schizo boomer chrisware
>Suddenly professional and ready for the stage
how DOES he do IT

Ideas on how to clean up or change the intro here? Ignore the dead air at the very start.

https://vocaroo.com/17W3V0tDtSPw

>>125212084
holy shit never mind I finally recorded demo and I’m literally so fucking good

>>125213199
You need to be able to play polyphonically so learn how to walk a bassline and hit your chord tones but you do it a bit later
Those top notes on the intro pattern melody you can move them up a scale step or two but to practice that keep it as simple as possible as move two notes around study a bit of counterpoint learn about consonance and suspension

>>125213269
yeah dude thanks for the feedback. i might need to go to college to know what the hell you're saying here though haha.

absolute fuckin TRASH for old times sake
but imagine the melody whispy auto tune after the melody change
(I have been up too long)
>bocchi_freakingout.etc

https://vocaroo.com/16cbHuB1o21Y

>>125213283
Its 2025 anon chat gpt exists

>>125211929
>https://vocaroo.com/1lTWOZrL1kgh
alot of the effects are subtle but the tape simulation is decent and you can click through like 50 effects for sound design purposes

>>125213684
somehow I don’t think that’s you

>>125213684
>Sound design
Whats the difference between sound design and musical composition? There is a difference, we select instruments to compose with. And imo it's best to keep it to a select number, perhaps 10-12 unique instruments (identical for baroque symphony orchestra) probably each composed of many pieces in their initial design, and possibly some sonically similar alternatives that are clearly the same thing but streamline the design process for heavy pitch shifting percs for example. But I at least don't want a thousand different things running around

So these instruments don't just have sonic range they have enormous timbral range as well. What im saying is the separation between composition and design is not as wide as you'd expect
What I mean is that airwindows is just as much a design tool as it is a composition tool
And it's only the airwindows suite thats like this. Nothing else is even in the space for it. There literally is no alternative for composition by design unless you want to actually procedurally synthesize eberything which even then would still be pumped into airwindows

>>125213951
no one asked

>>125213951
As convoluted as you put it, I almost half agree with you.
Good chunk of my disagreement is based on your only being capable of thinking airwindows plugins are unique in this if you’re completely uncreative in your use of other plugins lol.
I wack out to shit all the way into pro q like bro get weird

>>125213951
Also if this is meme warfare by impersonation please stop I surrender

>>125213994
Ofc fabfilter is great, they go very well together. But dab filter is a complement not the core. I just find it strange nobody else is even offering the same core toolkit as Chris

>>125213994
pro Q can't even dynamically subtract the spectrum it's exclusively limited to the amplitude of the sidehain

>>125214374
Nah i have tricks

gots me the free melda bundle, what im in for? did i like it?

>>125214420
Meaningless time consuming tedium they only don't include it so we have to buy other shit

>>125214429
Do they sound like FL? They look like they sound like FL

I have never used FL

https://vocaroo.com/14iONt4BSYro

fully re-recorded and re-mixed another old tune after the recent upgrade to my studio. definitely not 100% on the mix but it sounds way better than before

>>125214655
If you're gonna go this far I think an upright some standard swung drops into your stronger vocal notes between sections

You don't really many fills into things I think it would help a lot you tend to play phrases out of the downbeat instead of into it, mostly on the accompaniment vox plays into beats sometimes but it's rare

>>125214832
i appreciate your feedback(?) but to be totally honest i find this entire comment basically incomprehensible

>>125214854
I think this guy made these posts and is using ai to create overly jargon filled feedback.

>>125214832
>>125213269

If he's not using AI he's a pretentious little music major who is jerking himself off instead of speaking plainly.

>>125214870
AI is not that incomprehensible anymore nowadays. I think he's just drunk.

>>125214854
You don't drop the bass bro drop the bass
play a figure on guitar that leads into the beat you start singing on, and if you had a bass this would give you the ability to drop the bass into your vocal phrases,

Right before you end the intro and start singing you play a walkup bum bum into singing. Extend that phrase backwards to the and of 1 or the and of something in the previous bar or further back even. These can be very long phrases that land on these important beats when the texture changes

And the intro needs just a small amount of melodic variation. Whole notes, 8ths into halves whatever

https://voca.ro/13DaACjm7ad9
First hyperpop Try

>>125214655
your vocal delivery and mixing is awful. had to stop when you started singing because the first transient hurt

>>125214964
yes this is more comprehensible. i agree, there are moments where i'd like a double bass in the arrangement. i have a buddy who has one and eventually plan on adding some in. but in general i don't really want a lot of deep bass texture in this tune - there is some actual electric bass however at the very end, around 6:10 onwards.

>>125214973
thanks

>>125214854
>>125214870
>>125214883
AI chads forever stay winning

IDK i was gonna comment but other anons already said what i was gonna say so fuck it who gives a shit

https://vocaroo.com/1bQmUnbTh5Mx

>breakbeat
>electronic

thanks for the listen frens

>>125215090
gyad damn you don't even loosen it up first the first kick blew my o-ring out.

>>125215103
kek. i mean, none of my levels were in the red when i produced this desu

>>125203788
>>125203788
Nobody has anything to say?

>>125215209
Nothing nice nor constructive, no.

Stop putting patterns on grids and calling it music
Study patterns on grids, exhaustively(ish), and you will escape the grid

What do you know about the and of 2 in a bar of 4?

>>125215315
It's 3 8th notes away from the 1 aka a dotted quarter... very famous jazz rhythm called the chesterson is 1, and of 2, used to great effect on Coltrane summertime by the bass. A dotted quarter note phrase repeats after 3 bars. A dotted quarter note flips the beat it started on... So if it began on an up it ends on a down. It asymmetrically splits a bar into 3 evenly spaced pieces unevenly spaced from the barline unlike a whole note triplet 4/3 polyrhythm (perfect fourth interval)

As far as the and of 2 itself it sounds great going to the 1 of the following bar, it can also land on the and of 4. 3 ofc is berh nice. And of 3 and 4 are a bit more unique but also sound nice however they have a set of expectations such as in the case of 3
3 8ths from 3 to 4 sound very nice anticipating the next bar on the 4 of the previous
3 also likes to go to the 1, and of 1, 2, and of 2, 3 follow bar is a bit awkward but sounds nice in the accompaniment. And of 3 has expectations as well
From 3 to the and of 3 in the following bar we most easily find the and of 1 following that bar as a nice continuation after a dotted quarter rest

Etc

>>125215446
You'll find ofc that from the 3rd of any chord moving down a fifth so Eb/C- going to F say F7
Let's pick
So we start on the 3, we go from the 3rd Eb to what chord tone of F on what beat... Let's see if we select the and of 1 that gives us a space of 5 8th notes, meaning without skips we cannot often connect stepwise. 5 notes total from Eb gives us Bb going up (we started Eb on 3, F G A Bb) or A natural going down which is kino so we can stepwise connect both thirds of the chords using 8th notes to divide a space of a half note tied to an 8th (3 to and of 1 of the following bar)
Now if we suppose, wanted to end our phrase with a skip of a diatonic third above our penultimate note, that would flip the script making it possible to go upwards from 3 to 5 but not downwards as it then goes 3 to 9

If say we instead started with a quarter note you'll find it has the same effect.

What a bunch of mumbo jumbo that all is lol

>>125180845
did a few more hours work on this one, I think it's starting to shape up but worried it's getting too busy. am I in the sweet spot or is this too much?
https://vocaroo.com/1dQ0tRGM1HkQ

>>125215531
Why did you make that?

>>125215580
Usually when I work on music it's because in the moment everything else in my life feels so empty and pointless it's the only thing that's still worthwhile/that I can stomach doing

Should I bother master / polish this or nah.
https://vocaroo.com/1h9f1e100DuO

>>125215816
Yes this is vibey, you should polish

I'm trying to get back into production after a long time away (not that I've ever gotten very far into it in the past)
I already have FL10 and have used that a bit before, but I'm wondering if it's worth trying out the latest version of Reaper instead.
Any anons used both (FL10 specifically)?

>>125206720
Garbo, please stop whatever you call this. If you're going to rap, rap.

>>125215816
I could break to this

>>125216045
>already have FL10
Free upgrades for life, homie.

>>125203534

No one responded to this. Is it that bad?

>>125216105
It's dreamy and ball-less, nothing wrong with that if that's what you were going for.

>>125216122
What does ball-less mean? Are you saying it had no edge or no bite?

>>125216066
Really? I have a pirated version, so I haven't tried to upgrade it ever, and my pc is also not very recent.
Do you just mean to pirate the newest version, or is there some secret to upgrading I don't know?

>>125216105
Not bad at all, I don't know enough to help with the mix, but I could listen to this. With a bit more polish, you already got a working song. Keep going with what you have, I like it

>>125216194
>my pc is also not very recent
get your shit together man

>>125203534
as far as the mix goes, raise the mids and highs up imo, the melodic elements feel very muted and dull. Generally you could try to play with the structure and develop the melodies more throughout the song, maybe automations for polish

https://voca.ro/12l5TErkxaj7
Alright, I managed to remove the majority or plosives and clicks and whatnot from the vocals.

can i call myself a producer now

>>125216194
>>125216066
Oh shit, I see what you're talking about now. I wonder if this will actually work with my cracked version, that would be awesome.
Still, I think I'll practice the basics with what I have before I move up to the newest versions.

>>125216832
>cracked version
Just download the latest one and crack it again.

>>125218891
Why don't you put on a mask and steal it for him?

>7am
>BACK TO PRODUCING !:D

Somebody remind me to stop mixing on my old headphones because FUCK you can not hear low mids on those.
My bass sounded like absolute shit no wonder nobody responded

It’s all good now but I have to write a stupid B section now??
MORE sound design? There’s already so much!

I need… a partner….

i have 1k to spend on a new audio interface. is universal audio really that good as everyone claims it to be? i'm a bit worried about being locked into their ecosystem.
I could also save up a bit and buy a rme interface.
i've used an akai interface up until now, but it's a piece of shit.
what would you do?

>>125219109
Stop using your old headphones, the bass SUCKS

>>125219366
tfw no partner

>>125220142
I'd buy a cheap one and spend the extra money on cool shit like mics, synths, amps, things that cannot be properly replicated/replaced with a cheap option

>>125220142
not enough info. if you record instruments or voice then money into a mic pre is a better investment

>>125220142
if you're set on spending all that budget on an interface, buy a MOTU. ridiculously flexible + extensible if you ever need more IO. but if you don't need lots of bells and whistles, do what the other poster said -- buy a decent interface and something like very nice mic, or synth, or whatever suits the kind of music you make.

>>125220142
If your interface isn't overly noisy, buggy/crashy, high latency, sounds like shit, or you don't need any more features, there's no reason to upgrade it

If you made the coolest music that ever existed what would you do with it?

>>125220842
i have plenty of times and i just posted it once on 4chan and then that was it

getting it heard and then sustaining interest is like a whole separate thing

>>125220187
thanks

okay i'm going to bathe for the first time in a week and when i come back i'm going to make some insane music and act like i didn't just spend 15 hours in bed

>>125220142
It depends what you're trying to do. But yeah it's not really enough. You can barely get an 8ch pre for 1k. Maybe you could get one monitor... You can however get a pair of decent headphones for around that

>>125219366
If you're complaining about that you probably don't want to hear how tedious making real music really is. It's so obscenely tedious and time consuming. But every little change adds something and it sounds so good it's worth it. So keep pushing all the little things add up

>>125220853
I'm always worried about being retroactively doxd but maybe it's not the death sentence it was 8 years ago