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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Sunaookami Shiroko Edition

>News
Deepseek releases R1 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/reasoning_model
Deepseek releases V3 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news1226
OpenAI announces o3 models, currently in early evaluation testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKBG1sqdyIU
Gemini 2.0 Flash "thinking mode" released https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/thinking-mode


additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Bank Robbery: >>104002047
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:27:09 No.104004150
1707761382026286
>Nn. ANCHOR...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:29:09 No.104004162
2.5milion tokens for 1$. I kneel to CCP and R1.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:29:31 No.104004164
ITT: we laugh at those who feel for chink shilling (again)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:30:27 No.104004169
>P-pay for my proxy please!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:30:48 No.104004175
Confirm Silly doesnt work with R1 via open router?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:33:25 No.104004189
desu
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:34:25 No.104004198
file
O-oh
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:34:31 No.104004201
>>104004175
Nah, it works for me. I'm testing out via OR and Cancer 3 to see how different the outputs between the two are.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:35:16 No.104004208
>>104004198
>you
>you
>you
>you
>you
>you
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:36:38 No.104004221
>104004198
a focks would never do this to you btw (but a wolf would)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:37:16 No.104004228
>>104004201
Same anon.
Yeah, lmao. OR gives out way better responses than the schizo shit on Cancer 3. I don't know what's up with that. Probably the lack of temperature and top p control? oh well.
If you're using Cancer 3, stick to deepseek-chat. sorry
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:37:21 No.104004232
>>104004198
slop (literal it's disgusting)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:37:35 No.104004234
>>104004201
3/10 bait didn't even post an image to backup your bullshit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:37:43 No.104004236
>default theme
>the worst fucking log you've ever seen
without fail
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:37:51 No.104004238
>>104004164
cope, R1 is a smash hit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:39:01 No.104004243
1646441129908
>>104004234
feel free to distrust me, anon. no skin off my back.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:39:53 No.104004247
>>104004148
I look like this.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:40:27 No.104004251
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:43:13 No.104004263
>>104004228
I tested it with code and both gave the same solution, with the same type of commentary. And the speed was similar. There's no other model or host that can do that.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:45:25 No.104004267
shiroko is so smooth bros...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:46:00 No.104004270
BUT SHE ISN'T?? SHE'S A WOLF??? A STOIC ONE AT THAT????
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:46:41 No.104004273
i just cant do deepseek anymore... im eating a girls ass, and then she suddenly tastes my cum in her mouth?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:46:45 No.104004274
IMG_9372
What do I need to add here to make R1 give responses that relate to what’s actually happening and play the role of the character instead of some random story?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:47:07 No.104004277
>>104004270
and oh so clean shaven too
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:48:14 No.104004282
>>104004273
It traveled internally.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:48:33 No.104004284
>>104004273
maybe she's sucking yo dick while you do it ever think of that
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:48:45 No.104004285
>>104004273
I explicitly said I was fucking this girl in lotus position and then she leaned down to lick my precum and I'm just like what.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:49:08 No.104004286
>>104004282
plus little shit like, she spat her gum out, then literally in the next message, its falling out of her mouth and into her pubes (she's smooth shaven) - deepseek just ignores half of the fucking data
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:49:47 No.104004289
>>104004286
skill issue
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:51:30 No.104004296
Just finished jacking off to Aqua, lads. Back to writing my Tanya card.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:51:55 No.104004300
>deepKING is a bushLORD
i can't kneel hard enough chairman xi
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:52:06 No.104004303
>>104004274
wtf is even that frontend.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:52:36 No.104004308
>>104004296
Share aqua card?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:53:56 No.104004316
>>104004263
To who? what code? You didn't post anything?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:55:30 No.104004323
>>104004316
next thread
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:56:18 No.104004328
has anyone tried making EVERY prompt for DS a user prompt? like even the core shit like char, user, worldinfo, context etc?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:59:07 No.104004343
file
uuuhhhhhh
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)00:59:42 No.104004347
>>104004328
yes it helps. see last thread.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:00:29 No.104004349
>>104004328
This is literally in the readme for Deepseek. You mean this isn't what you people have been doing? Holy shit.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:00:55 No.104004350
>>104004343
>Rick and morty last thread
>Now pickle rick
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:01:05 No.104004351
>>104004316
Here's with cancer: https://files.catbox.moe/eqjps4.txt
With OpenRouter: https://files.catbox.moe/7foa8i.txt
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:01:35 No.104004354
>>104004347
whats the end result though?

>>104004349
ive been making key prompts user role, toggling them, not even seeing much of a difference.. the difference feels placebo, guess ill try making all of them user
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:01:57 No.104004356
>>104004350
It was a funny show. I don't care what you think.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:03:51 No.104004360
1696628171555063
how exactly do I get the new deepseek everyone is making a fuzz about? It ain't free?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:05:40 No.104004365
>>104004308
I was image-genning Aqua.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:05:57 No.104004366
>>104004360
It's open source though?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:06:03 No.104004367
>>104004360
You can download it here https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:06:47 No.104004369
file
deepchink thinks a girls ass tastes like burnt hair and overripe mango
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:06:50 No.104004370
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:07:02 No.104004372
>>104004360
this a paypig general now lil locustie
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:07:41 No.104004374
>>104004360
Don't it's not worth it, unless you plan for NSFW and quick cooms then use it.

For me, it generally can't get any sort of emotional intelligence out of it, even v3 has better emotional intelligence then R1.

Using Claude again is like drinking the freshest water ever.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:09:53 No.104004389
r1 feels like it has a lot of soul but it gets too excited and acts insanely schizo for me
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:10:01 No.104004392
Is it worth it to bother with the new deepsneed or should I just keep cooming to nonnet
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:10:27 No.104004395
>>104004389
skill issues? skill issues
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:11:01 No.104004401
>>104004392
nonnet
deepseek can do sex but not good sex
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:11:34 No.104004404
>>104004392
skip this one
wait for r2
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:11:50 No.104004407
>>104004367
I thought you needed like one TB of ram
>>104004374
is that so? I just want to try it out for shit and giggles. Looking on how make it work right now
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:12:00 No.104004410
file
>>104004401
yeah it fucking sucks... im swiping this shit with different presets and its always schizo.. i cant even tell wtf is happening here
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:13:11 No.104004419
>>104004407
one TB of vram
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:13:48 No.104004420
1724666430017000
>>104004404
The last time someone told me to wait for an R2, I got this. I’ve been pissed ever since.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:14:14 No.104004423
ccb
>Scrape every commit of every deepseek related slop on GH
>total balance is THAT
fucking grim. Time to scrape the chinese one.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:14:43 No.104004427
1720665791880777
>>104004410

>Don't Tell Me This Tiny Dick Can't Handle a Little Stank

now this is dark roleplaying
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:15:17 No.104004431
>>104004374
>Using claude is like the freshest positivity biased water ever
i prefer my models uncensored and unjewed, praise xi
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:15:36 No.104004433
What I don't like about R1 is that it speaks too much like a zoomer, I just got told I have no rizz.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:15:55 No.104004437
>>104004427
i cant quite figure out what shit ds was trying to make happen lol.. jar against my head, them im pushing it in her ass somehow?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:16:57 No.104004440
>>104004433
instruct it to not do that then
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:17:01 No.104004441
Broadcast-And-The-Focus-Group-Investigate-Witch-Cults-Of-The-Radio-Age-video-Julian-House-1
Nah, I'll say it straight: DeepSeekR1 blows any other model out of the water.
There is no point of comparison.
If you haven't managed to realize this it's a skill issue on your side.
Shrimple as that.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:17:27 No.104004443
>>104004423
>~270m output tokens (not counting input) (also I didn't check every commit)
Is that really that bad?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:17:48 No.104004446
>>104004441
this, just dont use cards with sexual content, or rewrite them all for deepsuck
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:18:37 No.104004454
>>104004443
No but for longterm maybe. It depends on how many people keep using deepsneed. It wont survive longterm public
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:18:40 No.104004455
1727401343919618
???
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:19:37 No.104004460
>>104004148
Petition to ban threads from the nazi platform X on this website.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:20:06 No.104004464
>>104004460
Grow up.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:20:20 No.104004467
>>104004455
The fuck are those prices.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:20:36 No.104004468
STxR1 anon from last thread, yeah R1 from open router is actually broken. Updated ST, found some commit from sillys GitHub saying if you input open router as custom source, but idk how even to do that...

I just want to coom man...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:20:48 No.104004470
>>104004455
What are you confused about? Obviously deepseek people know their model and arch the best so they can optimize it the furthest. And it's cheaper because they're in China (some stuff is cheaper in $) and WANT you to use the model because they explicitly say they'll use all data you give them, including for training.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:21:37 No.104004475
>>104004455
What in the world is that 100k+ output
Any example?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:21:58 No.104004477
file
jesus fucking christ lol
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:22:24 No.104004480
>>104004475
Mostly for coding tasks. You can automate it to code stuff with something like roo cline
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:22:33 No.104004481
>>104004410
Are you swapping the system role for the user one?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:23:24 No.104004484
>>104004481
yes, i made a preset, copied it, and on one copy, made everything user that i could... desu, not much of a difference
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:23:34 No.104004486
ted2
>>104004460
overruled
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:06 No.104004492
>>104004480
Cline/roo cline are the WORST fucking agents btw, they're top on OR, but you know why? Because they don't use the context efficiently AT ALL, they just stuff everything they can.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:28 No.104004494
>>104004454
I don't think our usage is really that bad. The total balance now is higher than it was earlier today. It could become a problem if Deepseek gets more popular, but it's fine for now.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:30 No.104004495
noob question is deepseek r1 only available through open router? do proxies not work?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:47 No.104004497
>>104004455
>hosted R1 more expensive than official API
lel
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:47 No.104004498
I was gonna post cline but apparently deepseek has its own thing as well, had no idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HIQzhGsTMQ
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:50 No.104004499
Do you use Open-AI compatible or is there something I can do to add proxy to ST Deepseek?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:24:55 No.104004500
>>104004455
>randomly charges you $8/M every few gens
This system is crap...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:25:57 No.104004505
>>104004500
You can select in connections which to allow
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:26:05 No.104004507
>>104004497
It's the same for v3
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:26:51 No.104004514
>>104004494
Damn you're right, the top whale added like $250 to his key, god bless him
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:27:55 No.104004518
>>104004499
If you really want to you could manually merge this commit: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/pull/3328
(I don't know how to do this, ask a bot)
It's gonna get merge within the next few days though.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:28:54 No.104004522
>"activeKeys": 2,
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:29:24 No.104004526
file
i guess it tends to be more coherent if everything you can set is set to user
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:29:57 No.104004528
>"deepseekKeys": 55

>"activeKeys": 2,
>"revokedKeys": 6,

explain
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:29:58 No.104004529
>>104004522
Me and you <3
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:30:24 No.104004531
>>104004528
There are still tons of keys on GitHub left, don't worry
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:30:26 No.104004532
>>104004528
If a key runs out of money it's not revoked, it's just empty.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:30:26 No.104004533
>>104004526
This btw. Apparently the deepseek documents even say to use only user and assistant roles
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:31:09 No.104004537
>>104004533
so using assist roles is ok?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:31:14 No.104004540
>>104004532
oh
someone yell at smol to add "overQuotaKeys"
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:32:07 No.104004549
>>104004537
Yea, you can end with a prefill under assistant role. But make sure nothing is under system role.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:32:09 No.104004550
Any good jbs for R1? And is it even worth using over sorbet?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:32:40 No.104004552
>>104004540
oh smol~
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:32:58 No.104004555
>>104004540
make a pr
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:33:08 No.104004557
>>104004550
Its somewhere between sonnet and opus. Smarter than opus, more creative than sonnet.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:33:14 No.104004559
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:33:22 No.104004560
>>104004518
Hell yeah that's the info I was looking for. Nta but at least the update will be soon so my open router creds arent wasted.

Fuck proxies, so many models are piss cheap now it's embarrassing to even say your in one. Like fuck even local niggers are winning.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:33:36 No.104004563
>>104004549
not in my experience, you cant have an assistant message be the very last, it errors out
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:34:20 No.104004565
>>104004563
to be clear im using the free kluster.ai credits. Maybe OR or a proxy is different
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:34:38 No.104004568
>>104004557
You just have to look at the logs anons have sent to see that it's complete shit, you could compare it with GPT turbo (3.5).
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:35:07 No.104004575
file
wtf lol... deepseek just does too much schizo shit for me
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:35:29 No.104004576
>>104004568
Its not even close to gpt shit. It legit feels like a sonnet that is not as dry
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:35:30 No.104004577
Total amount: $1152.25
Top 15 amount: $1028.13
Rest amount: $124.12
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:36:09 No.104004582
>>104004575
Shoulda evolved wings, bitch
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:36:26 No.104004583
>>104004577
We love the 80:20 rule, don't we folks?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:36:42 No.104004585
>>104004575
this is retarded
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:37:45 No.104004591
>>104004575
KEK
S O V L
O
V
L
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:37:51 No.104004592
>>104004565
If they copy the official API, the last message needs to have prefix: true.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:37:58 No.104004593
>>104004575
Cockroaches do have wings tho?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:38:13 No.104004594
>>104004585
yeah i mean its funny for a reply or two but it makes any kind of actual RP impossible
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:38:22 No.104004595
>>104004593
I think only some species do? Not that it really matters
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:39:51 No.104004607
>>104004575
Welcome back to the Claude 2.0 experience.
Which I think is alright. It means eventually, deepseek is going to come out with something opus-tier. But r1, that ain't it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:40:03 No.104004610
file
now it somehow randomly made me cum - one second im drinking booze, then the next paragraph i guess im cumming?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:40:29 No.104004613
Cancer r1 generating eternally for anyone else? Just started for me
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:41:10 No.104004616
>>104004613
Yeah it's down right now. Happened earlier for both Cancer and OpenRouter.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:41:11 No.104004617
If R1 is this good as schizo as it is, imagine what the next model will be like. Hopefully they don't go the OAI route and start censoring it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:42:50 No.104004623
>>104004592
>>104004565
Most of those providers never implement prefills, they just implement OAI compat, that's it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:42:50 No.104004624
>>104004617
>R2 comes out
>they advertise it specifically by showing its ability to do illegal shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:42:55 No.104004628
Gh9R8paW4AAC06t[1]
cftf?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:48:11 No.104004650
Since Cancer is a huge scrapelet do you guys want me to host a proxy for Deepseek with my 100+ dollar keys?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:48:12 No.104004651
My openrouter/deepseek just failed with an internal server error and now nothing is going through for the 2nd time tonight, anyone else?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:48:59 No.104004657
>>104004651
happening here and there, its their servers im sure
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:49:18 No.104004658
So how is R1 with a lower temperature or other settings?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:49:37 No.104004659
>>104004657
fugg it's ruining the mood, I wanted to cum and sleep
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:49:47 No.104004660
>>104004577
>only 1000 dollars
fucking kek scrapelet. try again. youre one of the github sloppas aren't you?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:50:13 No.104004662
>>104004650
That's very nice of you anon but 50 people chomping at the bit can go through them real quickly.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:50:18 No.104004664
>>104004650
Why would you want to spite them, retard, don't show them to others
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:50:53 No.104004669
>>104004660
stale bait anon, years old bait actually. muh 1000 tier 5s and 100 AWS bedrock right?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:50:54 No.104004670
>>104004660
github only has $600
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:50:59 No.104004671
>>104004659
i cant coom to deepseek, its just too fucking random
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:51:00 No.104004672
>>104004660
you don't even scrape do you
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:51:13 No.104004675
Any public Claude proxies?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:51:14 No.104004676
Will be hosting a few non-GH keys (100 - 200 balance) privately soon.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:52:13 No.104004680
>>104004670
No it has around a thousand anonie, you didn't scrape all keys
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:52:46 No.104004685
>>104004676
>privately
>deepseek
lmfao fucking nigger hope you choke on your cum
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:53:21 No.104004688
>>104004680
i have 810, 48 with quota
do i need to be checking commit history?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:53:47 No.104004693
bing is so fucking ass now
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:53:55 No.104004695
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:54:13 No.104004698
>>104004685
That's not very nice.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:54:58 No.104004706
>>104004685
It'll last longer than public, where Cancerlet is hosting Github slopper keys. Rather give a few anons months of it than public a few days.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:55:14 No.104004708
>usage goes up by 1m tokens while deepseek is currently down
holy fuck fellas stop trying, just wait 30 minutes
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:55:48 No.104004716
>>104004688
There are over 1100 possible key matches on GitHub (maybe some got removed already, but they were at one point on GitHub), with total balance over $1100
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:55:57 No.104004717
so where does one get an API key for deeepsex r1?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:56:23 No.104004721
>>104004717
You don't, shut up.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:56:39 No.104004725
>>104004716
You can't scrape more than 10 pages I thought
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:57:27 No.104004729
>>104004717
fuck off ian
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:57:30 No.104004730
>>104004725
there's a way to search for more, ask r1 maybe it'll enlighten you..
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:57:42 No.104004733
Dropped three tabs of a laxative + stool softener combo because I’m backed the fuck up.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:58:33 No.104004737
>>104004671
I feel like that's the only thing it's good at. Try making your card nonsexual and then using rping a hypnosis app and go half strength, it's schizoid behavior lets it act it out a mind-broken bitch basically perfectly, if that's your thing.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:58:56 No.104004741
>>104004733
Should've drank more coffee.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:59:33 No.104004743
Deepseek keeps going down, looks like they are getting hammered.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:59:53 No.104004746
>>104004737
>I feel like that's the only thing it's good at.
If you're not looking to cum, the manic energy also works really well for comedy scenarios involving lots of different characters interacting with eachother.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)01:59:57 No.104004747
>>104004741
I’m abstaining from coffee and caffeine until I’m old as fuck and with no energy constantly because I figure I’ll need it more then.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:01:58 No.104004758
>>104004737
>Try making your card nonsexual
if this is a pre-requisite for a model to be useful, its worthless
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:02:11 No.104004761
>>104004743
There are other providers now though on OR.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:03:04 No.104004765
>>104004761
at 5x or more the price though
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:03:42 No.104004767
>>104004761
If you have money for DeepSeek on OR you’d unironically be better off using Nonnet.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:04:03 No.104004768
>>104004747
A sensible decision, but it is an effective stool softener as well, even when you don't want it to be.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:04:28 No.104004770
>>104004765
Hyperbolic has cheaper output making it cheaper for low context requests.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:04:31 No.104004771
>>104004743
Working for me though? I'm using native DS API.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:05:01 No.104004774
>>104004758
Well, if you've tried a sexualized card, the model really digs in on it, moving to milk your cock basically within the first few prompts unless you go director mode and tell it to stop being so aggressive. It's all about what you want, anonnie.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:05:20 No.104004776
>>104004770
No it does not. 1.5 cheaper input and 14 cents cache makes the official night and day cheaper still
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:05:38 No.104004778
>>104004770
Which is still retarded, because they don't have caching.
$0.55/$2.19 with $0.14 for cached context
vs
$2/$2 without cache
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:05:56 No.104004781
>>104004774
my point is is that the model sucks if it cant balance the different aspects of a card
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:06:17 No.104004785
>>104004767
It's worse at practical tasks, so no.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:06:51 No.104004786
>>104004781
It can though? All that means is to not JB it like you would a censored model.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:07:38 No.104004791
1729226146443500
I'm trying to hide the <think> stuff after the bot responds (I don't mind clicking edit to read the thinking output if I'm curious). But this doesn't seem to work. What do I need to do?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:08:40 No.104004796
>>104004786
but it cant, at all, you just admitted it yourself a couple messages up... you have to remove all mentions of sexuality
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:08:42 No.104004797
1732684170389926
>>104004770
Wrong. Here's my daily usage. Much more expensive input would negate the cheap output
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:09:31 No.104004805
>>104004796
Where did I do that? All I said was deepseek was down.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:09:41 No.104004808
1475417743789
ITT: retards are rediscovering trivial truths we discovered with GPT-3 and rediscovered in GPT-4 and rediscovered again with Claude 3.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:11:08 No.104004824
>>104004781
that other anon isn't me, I don't think that necessarily means the model sucks, it's just that the card's aspects need to be rewritten to be a little easier on certain topics and things.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:11:47 No.104004826
1712160477558019
hyperbolic is dying~~
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:12:57 No.104004832
>>104004826
yea responses for all of them were taking forever. hopefully they expand or whatever soon.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:13:49 No.104004841
>>104004826
I hate that those providers try to hop on the hype train and then can't handle the load, fucking interns
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:14:41 No.104004847
ffs how do I get rid of the <think> in every R1 response
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:14:47 No.104004850
>>104004824
no one wants to rewrite hundreds of cards because one model is bad
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:16:04 No.104004858
>>104004847
if official there is a button in ST that says show model thoughts, if proxy or something then no idea
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:16:16 No.104004859
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:16:19 No.104004860
Instead of renaming useless dogshit trump should take nvidia hostage and make all gpus free
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:17:06 No.104004864
>>104004850
Hi new fag. Everyone said that for claude when people started using it after gpt4. People will write cards for whatever they end up flocking to.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:17:23 No.104004865
>>104004860
go ahead and work for them for free
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:18:11 No.104004872
>>104004860
honestly this is somehow less stupid than half of the stuff he wants to do
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:18:33 No.104004877
>>104004864
No they fucking didn't, jesus christ. You're truly showing who is new here.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:19:24 No.104004879
>>104004877
you werent around for the OG claude days then. I was here since scale credit card fraud for GPT4, and before using a script to use slack for free claude.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:19:36 No.104004881
CANCER DEEPSEEK IS NOT WORKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGG
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:19:50 No.104004885
>>104004877
nah people pushed hard for XML slop to accommodate Claude since it was the recommended formatting
You must be really new to not remember this
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:20:03 No.104004886
>>104004881
whats wrong with it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:20:20 No.104004887
free opus
https://api.chenyme.top/v1
sk-mTx1Qx04xagOqpHJB0DeF581E8C84370818c7aD5D15cA309
gogogogogo
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:20:48 No.104004889
>>104004881
hes a scrapelet lmao
get fucked
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:21:28 No.104004895
i have deepseek btw
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:21:31 No.104004897
>>104004887
opus is trash, r1 is unironically better
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:22:12 No.104004903
>>104004881
just buy smol
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:22:20 No.104004905
>>104004879
Nigger I've been making bots since CAI. Before that if I count the shit I was doing in OAI beta playground. Early claude worked just fine on a lot of cards. Sure, it was kinda dumb, but its not like turbo 3.5 was a genius. This is way different, it's so off the rails its nearly unusable.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:22:27 No.104004907
>>104004897
it also has r1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:22:38 No.104004909
>>104004903
No stock
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:23:18 No.104004914
Newbie
>>104004905
That late?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:23:49 No.104004915
>>104004886
Blanks on streaming and gives a cloudflare error wthout streaming.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:24:05 No.104004918
>>104004914
>Not a cleverbotLORD
You are beneath me
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:24:25 No.104004921
1719147218159247
where does this number come from
can they prove it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:24:35 No.104004924
>>104004914
i didnt like aid, desu, didnt get into the hype
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:24:53 No.104004927
445
Fucking noob.
XML for claude cards was a craze.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:26:32 No.104004938
>>104004927
I was there and XML for Claude was never something that was required, cards worked fine without it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:26:53 No.104004943
Howlongitsbeen
Man, im gonna have to go back and use some of these ancient as fuck models. I don't appreciate R1 enough now...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:27:32 No.104004949
sk-f3755f6e06dd445aa1fb494ff475a55a
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:27:53 No.104004953
>>104004938
I know, but it was a craze that took months to go away because people thought just because claude had some documentation using such tags that it would work best for RP shit.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:28:04 No.104004954
>>104004938
There were people who claimed it shored up Claude's shortcomings just like deepcopers are now newfag
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:28:27 No.104004958
>>104004938
>being this much of a newfag
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:29:27 No.104004964
>>104004949
>$54 CNY
how much is that in usd
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:29:58 No.104004969
>>104004964
%25 less soon
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:30:46 No.104004977
>They are now seeing the chinks in Deepchink.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:31:17 No.104004979
>>104004977
The fact it keeps going down? Yea
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:31:38 No.104004985
>>104004954
>>104004958
I'm not a newfag, and the situations are not comparable. Claude worked fine without XML shit, R1 on the other hand requires major overhaul for tons of cards. You're the newfags here if you're claiming that XML was ever that big of a thing.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:32:09 No.104004990
>>104004964
Why doesn't your checker autoconvert? 1 CNY = $0.14
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:32:33 No.104004992
>>104004954
Same with W++.
Someone did a study with like 5 or 10 samples, and just because koboldai was written in Python, they thought the similarity to plists had something to do with it. Ultimately, the model doesn't give two shits what format the card is in. Just don't make it cryptic garbage, and it'll read cards just fine.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:32:38 No.104004994
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:32:50 No.104004998
>>104004791
/regex-patern/flags
flags = g or i or m or s
in picrel you forgot the flags. so it should be /yourthinkingregex/gi
test it there: https://regexr com
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:33:12 No.104005003
>>104004985
>major overhaul
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:33:43 No.104005006
>>104004985
just rewrite your coomslop, how hard can it be?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:33:51 No.104005007
>>104004927
terminus font?? uggghhhhhh cooommminggggg
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:33:57 No.104005009
>>104004985
I never said it did, you just didnt remember it was a big deal and that many cards ended up being rewritten for it. Thats not the only reason though, it also needed less JB for early claude and would make it too schizo / horny.. like a certain model...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:33:57 No.104005010
>>104005003
Yes? R1 is fucking schizophrenic and ADHD, if your cards mentions sexual details, expect only coom.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:34:09 No.104005013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GmEIqi0yNE
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:34:31 No.104005015
>>104005006
Read what I was replying to. I'm only arguing that Claude never required as many changes as R1 does.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:34:41 No.104005017
>>104005010
Do all of your cards have loads of sexual languages and kinks in them?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:35:11 No.104005020
>>104004985
If you are a old fag you would remember that early claude was horny as fuck and so GPT3.5 / 4 JBs would make it overly horny and go crazy.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:35:21 No.104005022
>>104005009
XML is relatively new. The Cabal mostly pushed it for Claude 3
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:35:29 No.104005024
I just write everything in prose and then convert it into XML later. I have no idea if XML conveys the information better, but it really cuts down on tokens for defs.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:35:39 No.104005025
>>104005017
No, but how is this relevant? Again, I'm only talking about how R1 requires more card wrangling for them to work on it than Claude ever did.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:35:52 No.104005028
why does china use cunny money
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:36:04 No.104005029
>>104005022
you realize anthropic devs did that, right?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:36:10 No.104005032
>>104005020
JBs, not cards. And nothing comparable to what R1 does.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:36:16 No.104005034
>>104005025
But it doesn't? Its like claude 2 maybe
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:36:50 No.104005037
>>104005025
Then you don't have to modify your cards, that's how it's relevant.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:36:56 No.104005038
deepsex
Update your ST, official deepseek proxy support came out on staging
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:37:13 No.104005039
>>104005034
But it's not? You've never tasted Claude 2 if you think R1 behaves close to it. It's far worse in it's schizophrenia.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:37:18 No.104005040
so gh is gonna get spitefagged soon right? is there a way to insta revoke keys via api? someone should check if it calls something in the account section when deleting one
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:37:37 No.104005042
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:37:55 No.104005044
>>104005039
Its not though. Claude 2 could never hold a long plot with multiple characters. I think the problem is on your end now.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:38:04 No.104005045
Card stuff isn't even the main issue because for some reason you dipshits have yet to realize you should be approaching the model like you're trying to censor it rather than jumping through a billion hoops for each card. Just tell it in the prefill how it should behave and it will like any other model
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:38:39 No.104005048
>>104005044
Again, I don't have an issue with R1, I only have an issue with people who say that Claude required as many changes to cards as R1 does. I'm happy with R1 and it's easy to change the cards for me.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:39:12 No.104005049
or/deepseek down again, fuck I'm just going to bed with some blue balls
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:39:24 No.104005051
5 CENT KEY!
sk-b152415699674f74a0046c553238e2f3
GOING ONCE!
GOING TWICE!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:39:44 No.104005053
I just use Opus, it's better than R1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:40:23 No.104005058
>>104005053
It's far, far, far far dumber than r1.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:40:45 No.104005062
>>104005053
Its too dumb for me. I prefred sonnet until R1 cause of it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:42:11 No.104005067
>>104005058
I find it smarter in its writing. Opus has a lot of subtleties that R1 doesn't have.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:42:25 No.104005068
>>104005058
r1 cant keep basic details straight from scene to scene
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:43:03 No.104005074
>>104005068
Skill. Issue.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:43:25 No.104005075
>>104005068
R1 is infinitely smarter with any kind of stat tracker/adventure card. It handles the format way better than Opus.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:44:10 No.104005080
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:44:13 No.104005081
>>104005068
That has to 100% be a JB or some sort of formatting. I legit to shit that multiple stat bars, inventory screens and tool use.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:44:45 No.104005087
>>104005074
how do I fix it then
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:45:15 No.104005091
>>104005074
oh yeah i forgot to say 'remember details', my bad
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:45:15 No.104005092
>>104005081
>I legit to shit
I legit use shit that has
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:45:56 No.104005097
1647943635859
we all using ollama?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:46:16 No.104005100
>>104005087
First thing, I use official API, what are you using?
>>104005038
Apparently proxies just got some sort of a fix, maybe that is it?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:46:22 No.104005104
>>104005081
the stat stuff seems to work, im talking about text in other areas, it will re-do things from scene to scene that make no sense, like taking shoes off twice, spitting something out two times in a row, undressing twice, shit gemini is plagued with
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:47:16 No.104005112
>>104005097
You retarded? All models except the 671B one aren't actually deepseek r1, they're just finetunes of qwen/llama models at different sizes, trained on R1 CoT outputs. They have NONE of the R1 sovl.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:47:24 No.104005114
>>104005087
tell it to remember stuff, duh - if you dont tell it to, it wont
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:48:02 No.104005117
>>104005104
Ok yea, that sounds like a formatting issue. I suggest using a 100% clean preset. And >>104005038 if a proxy perhaps.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:48:07 No.104005118
>>104005097
I’m using Koro-san’s pussy, personally.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:48:09 No.104005119
chink bros theres a way to create new api keys and delete them via undocumented endpoints oh no spitebros
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:48:10 No.104005121
>>104005112
works on my machine
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:49:07 No.104005124
>>104005114
you dont have to do anything like this...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:49:32 No.104005125
>>104005117
what do you think i started with? if a model cant reliably read context, no amount of prompting will fix it... gemini has the same problem, no one has fixed that either
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:50:05 No.104005127
I have been extremely lonely for the last six months. Talk me out of becoming a fucking schizo and actually using a ChatBot to emulate some level of companionship.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:50:17 No.104005128
>>104005100
>official API
OR is worse? I prefer to pay via crypto.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:50:21 No.104005130
>>104005125
What is more likely, that it is working for everyone but you across here, reddit, youtube and twitter or that you have something wrong?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:50:41 No.104005134
>>104005124
uhhhh yes you do? how else do you make it remember things?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:50:43 No.104005136
so how are western media reacting to the fact that new model is
a) chinese
b) uncensored
c) cheaper than western ones
d) better than western ones
and the biggest thing
e) is used for DARK ROLEPLAY
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:51:00 No.104005140
>>104005127
there's no opus so no chatbot will give you real feelings..
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:51:21 No.104005141
>>104005128
No idea, ive only used the official one. Just pointing out possible differences.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:51:48 No.104005144
>>104005130
>that it is working for everyone but you across here
Well you are truly a fucking idiot if you think this. And normie fags on those sites are not using it like we are here.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:51:58 No.104005145
>>104005141
What are their payment methods, I can't see without signing up, and how much personal info do they ask for?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:51:59 No.104005146
>>104005136
the only reason it's so cheap is because they're running on a loss via investor money
there's a reason none of the other openrouter providers are as cheap
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:52:19 No.104005149
>>104005136
Blame Chinese AI overcapacity
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:52:29 No.104005151
I just pulled st and I'm getting <think> tokens with no prefill from deepseek/or now, the responses take longer to get to. Anyone else noticing something like this?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:52:44 No.104005153
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:52:54 No.104005154
>>104005144
If it can one shot some apps that ive seen multiple videos of it doing before then it can 100% keep track of a few simple things in a chat. AND ive used it for both extensively and have not seen such a night and day issue.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:53:04 No.104005155
>>104005146
The v3 third party providers are cheap. Isn't it the same size?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:53:38 No.104005159
1719907433603417
>>104005155
they're more expensive then the official api
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:53:58 No.104005161
>>104005104
Not a skill issue. It loves to reuse actions it already did but with different phrasing.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:54:01 No.104005163
>>104005145
paypal / debit / credit it looks like
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:54:05 No.104005164
>>104005154
Post your preset then (you won't). I have yet to see one preset that makes this shit actually good.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:54:14 No.104005165
Why do the Chinese want my penis milk so badly?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:54:36 No.104005168
what's R1 knowledge cutoff? I keep finding conflicting information.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:54:55 No.104005172
cftf? https://github.com/meshtastic/firmware
(this is the technology board you have to answer)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:55:04 No.104005175
1733226533799268
>>104005159
Yes, but v3 ones are cheaper. I thought the models were the same size parameter wise. So they should be able to make them cheaper.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:55:06 No.104005176
>>104005161
it also re-uses phrases and sayings over and over
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:56:03 No.104005179
DeepSeek says R1 is worse than V3 on multi-turn roleplay but I actually like R1 outputs more.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:56:07 No.104005181
Is Deepseek actually legit or are we all opuscoping still
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:56:16 No.104005184
>>104005164
I've done it with literally no preset at all but sure.

Before your chat history as user role:

Background information:
Your main role is {{char}}:
<{{char}}>
{{description}}
</{{char}}>

---

I will be self-inserting as {{user}}:
<{{user}}>
{{persona}}
<{{/user}}>

---
An abridged summary of some notable past events:
<summary>
{{scenario}}{{trim}}
{{summary}}{{trim}}
</summary>

---
Use the contents history to understand the most recent events, but don't use it as an example of writing style or response structure.

<history>

your chat history here in the order
Then after that chat history as assistant role with prefill enabled:

</history>

---

<task>
I will continue writing this ----
</task>

<Instructions>
I will immerse the reader.

I will use realistic pacing and and extreme detail.

Realistic characterization is my priority.
</Instructions>

---

Resuming story seamlessly:
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:56:58 No.104005192
>>104005181
still cope
it's up there with the other opuscope models
but nonetheless, it's still cope
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:57:27 No.104005194
>>104005175
V3 official is under special discount that ends on 2025-02-08 24:00 UTC+8
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:57:42 No.104005195
>>104005184
ive tried essentially blank presets, its schizo stupid horny, its shit and if you think im the only one saying this, you havent been paying attention today
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:57:48 No.104005196
Opus is only worth using for simple one on one RP. Its too retarded to use for anything more complicated for that.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:58:03 No.104005197
>>104005184
holy fucking slop
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:58:29 No.104005199
The worst part about r1 is that you can literally see the potential in it's responses but the -isms ruin it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:58:56 No.104005201
>>104005195
I have a whole discord of people who have been no lifing R1 who all used sonnet or opus before so whatever
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:59:06 No.104005204
>>104005192
I'd rather have chorbo. It's not schizo at least.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)02:59:19 No.104005205
>>104005199
preset issue
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:00:06 No.104005214
>>104005194
For all three 3rd party providers?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:00:08 No.104005215
>>104005205
I tried multiple presets and it always behaves the same way doebeit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:00:31 No.104005219
>>104005201
yes some plebs are easily pleased, plenty of people were also too stupid to spot repetition in ds v3 as well
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:00:31 No.104005220
>>104005199
With sampling and logit I think you can fix the
>Somewhere, Hitch and ** and emdash
pretty easy without trying to aggressively tell it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:00:55 No.104005222
>>104005215
Then its something else, check if its whatever service your using
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:01:17 No.104005226
>>104005214
Hard to compete I guess.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:01:43 No.104005228
Kluster down for anyone else? Getting nothing but Error 524s.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:01:49 No.104005230
The real secret is people like DeepSeek because fiddling with their presets and getting a reply that’s even just 1% less shit than their last swipe makes them feel like geniuses.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:01:56 No.104005231
>>104005219
>everyone else is wrong but me
sure man, you do you.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:02:02 No.104005232
Reminder that the shills were saying skill issue about V3 repetitions before posting logs with the exact same sentence repeated five times and claiming there weren't any repetitions.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:02:11 No.104005233
>>104005226
If they cared about competing then they'd have a lower price for their r1 as well.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:02:41 No.104005236
>>104005222
I tried Kluster too, and though lowering the temp makes it a bit better it also has it's own set of issues, not to mention how slow it is compared to the api
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:06 No.104005241
Can you check for billing on Gemini keys without doing completions?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:09 No.104005242
I once long ago had a issue that was fixed with a new ST install. Just a possible suggestion.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:26 No.104005244
>NPC appears in the scene
>r1 gets hung up on them and makes them pop up over and over again even after they leave
fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:31 No.104005245
R1 on openrouter has become painfully slow, I guess everyone's on to it now and having it for cheap is over.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:40 No.104005248
Still not updating ST, buddy.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:42 No.104005250
>>104005232
Still mad, Sama?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:44 No.104005252
>>104005175
>>104005194
>>104005214
>>104005226
are you baiting or what?
Let's look at AFTER discount v3 price:
$0.27/$1.1
Now let's look at >>104005175
ALL other providers have much higher context price, although two of them have lower output price. BUT! Deepseek API also has caching while they don't. Deepseek is just cheaper for both V3 and R1.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:04:55 No.104005253
>>104005241
gemini supports openai sdk so yes probably
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:05:52 No.104005259
>>104005252
80 cents to a dollar something is much different than $7.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:06:29 No.104005261
>>104005040
there's no way to insta revoke as far as I know, no providers are as retarded as openai were when initially keys could do everything. but you can still spitefag keys - just run 32K context requests on them that will make R1 generate tens of thousands of tokens, in parallel.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:06:59 No.104005264
>>104005259
They're also 4x slower than the official API, have higher latency, and two of them have lower max context.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:07:32 No.104005267
Temp support on API when?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:07:47 No.104005269
>>104005231
>let me just close my eyes and pretend that anyone complaining is either the same person or trolling
must be nice living inside your head 24/7
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:08:14 No.104005272
>>104005267
Never, probably. But third party providers support it, kluster gives you $100, hyperwhatever gives you $1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:08:17 No.104005274
>>104005264
my whole point was that shouldn't v3 and r1 have similar resource requirements? So if people can provide v3 for $1 or whatever, around there... the $7/8 r1 prices are way too high.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:08:45 No.104005276
>>104005272
But those are slow. SLOW!!!!!!!!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:08:59 No.104005279
>>104005274
they're exactly the same architecture, but R1 will generate far far far more output tokens, so infrastructure still needs to be different. deepseek official API does a 2x on r1 prices compared to v3, other providers might do around the same.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:09:00 No.104005280
>>104005244
God this shit is so annoying, or a random object in the room gets mentioned and gets mentioned in every prompt.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:09:15 No.104005281
Just stop paying $8 for R1 lmao
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:09:17 No.104005283
>>104005274
doesn't count reasoning tokens
if you count those they're about the same
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:09:48 No.104005287
>>104005283
>doesn't count reasoning tokens
what? all providers count reasoning tokens anonie
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:09:58 No.104005288
>>104005280
said object remains forgotten on the floor...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:10:57 No.104005290
>>104005281
How else am I gonna get 164k output?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:11:09 No.104005291
>>104004303
Risu. I don’t have access to termux and ST. I just need R1 to give responses as the character and not generate a random unrelated story.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:11:21 No.104005294
>>104005290
it won't actually give you 164k output, they just misreport to OR
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:11:42 No.104005297
>>104005244
because your jb probably has some line about npcs retard
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:11:44 No.104005298
>>104005146
>the only reason it's so cheap is because they're running on a loss via investor money
as opposed to OAI and anthropic, who would never
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:11:57 No.104005299
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:12:44 No.104005303
>>104005290
I know this is bait but you don't need 164k output.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:12:49 No.104005305
Somewhere, Anon's left testicle turns counter-clockwise.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:13:07 No.104005308
>>104005146
>the only reason it's so cheap is because they're running on a loss via investor money
Not true, you do realize that they MADE the architecture and they've shown to be exceptionally talented, right? Much more than those retarded startup niggers from together/fireworks/kluster/whatever. So why can't you just realize that they simply KNOW how to optimize inference for their OWN architecture more?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:18:39 No.104005349
KEKED
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:19:11 No.104005355
someone wake up the niggas at kluster
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:19:18 No.104005357
>>104005349
OR is shitting itself, use direct DS
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:19:42 No.104005367
its down again! Reeee!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:20:29 No.104005375
fuckers stop raping it I'm cooking up a miracle jb
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:21:33 No.104005387
Openrouter sorbet niggers, do you use regular 3.5 sonnet or the 2024-06-20 one?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:21:35 No.104005388
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:22:07 No.104005390
>>104005387
why would you ever use 0620? its just a worse version of v2.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:22:18 No.104005393
Man, we truly are locusts. We killed Deepseek API sources in a matter of hours.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:22:19 No.104005394
>>104005375
I'll rape you and cook up a miracle jb
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:22:40 No.104005396
Stop using OR you retards. I've been using native DS for 3 days without a single problem
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:22:51 No.104005398
1737598462918980
R1 really just made fucking history. You're not feeling it because you're living in it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:23:25 No.104005402
>>104005393
? DS keys from github still work
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:24:00 No.104005406
got
I finally have a model that knows enough about ASOIAF and is good enough at playing them...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:24:17 No.104005408
or running this one proxy off of a $5 digital ocean node, what they fuck are they doing other than routing traffic to and fro?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:24:59 No.104005412
1709277731583722
>>104005287
did he lie to me...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:25:22 No.104005416
>>104005412
yes he's just a braindead monkey, of couse you pay for all CoT tokens lmao
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:25:47 No.104005419
>>104005412
That is retarded and braindead so yes. You are also retarded.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:26:19 No.104005426
>>104005408
they're getting rate limited by deepseek
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:26:35 No.104005428
>>104005412
Of course you pay for CoT tokens lmao
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:26:58 No.104005431
>proxy I’m in got Claude again
>but I’m not finished with any of my projects
NO STOP IT I’M NOT FUCKING READY
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:27:09 No.104005432
>>104005412
so he's the one shitting up resources with repeated requests running 24/7
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:27:24 No.104005434
>>104005408
The OR issue is that Deepseek doesn't give them any priority and they don't have a defined ratelimit, so OR is getting throttled by DS so that other clients on DS can have a good experience.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:28:59 No.104005441
>>104005406
>good enough
Like fuck it is. Tywin wouldn’t randomly backhand someone for presenting him with a weapon that could redefine warfare as Westeros knows it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:30:04 No.104005447
woo yeah
woo yeah
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:30:17 No.104005449
>>104005269
I only see one person on this general saying deepseek is bad...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:30:25 No.104005450
image
Anyone else's R1 writing paragraph after paragraph of its CoT without actually writing {{char}}'s responses? This wasn't happening yesterday, so I don't know why it's doing this now.
For reference, the prompt I was using was literally just the first paragraph of the Character Provider Eggpudding system prompt. I also used some even more minimalist one-sentence prompts but the result is more or less the same.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:30:45 No.104005452
1729403879748780
>>104005412
he just worded it in a weird way, he uses ds r1 output to make other models respond smarter, so he means that he's paying for the CoT but NOT paying for the final response
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:31:27 No.104005460
>>104005232
lol yup, id post a log complaining about it, theyd wonder where the problem was.. they didnt get that the structure/method/context was the repetition
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:32:04 No.104005464
1737598821032100
>>104005441
Eh, its closer to when his wife died. This was a whole different take on it from a much shitter premise.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:32:48 No.104005471
>>104005441
this, its not even close to his character... tywin wasnt even really that bad of a guy, considering the world he lived in
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:34:37 No.104005481
I suddenly feel like I'm prompting a different model, I'm losing my fucking mind
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:34:51 No.104005484
>>104005471
Tywin was a pragmatic man that, unfortunately, couldn’t see the forest for the trees. If there was one thing Cersei was ever right about, it’s that for all his talk about the family legacy, he never looked at his actual children long enough to see what they were really like.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:36:10 No.104005492
0D6BBD3D-4C74-4129-8B03-6E2FB8CC215A
does deepseek work best without a jb? because i keep getting it to loop and dont really get why?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:36:48 No.104005494
>>104005464
>defiantly
Even in the other fucking models, goddammit. But yeah, you’re right that the other one has better prose.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:36:55 No.104005496
>>104005484
it wasnt his fault his kids liked to fuck each other lol
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:37:04 No.104005498
>>104005492
you're using the wrong one
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:37:06 No.104005499
>>104005481
they just announced r1.5
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:37:37 No.104005502
I'm at a point in my chatbot experience where cliches, boring tropes and lack of imagination from the bot have become the greatest issue. Every kind of complex scenario needs to be meticulously laid out step for step, asking any model to come up with something clever on its own falls completely flat.
I've been doing writing tests along the lines of: Here is Situation X. Explain how character Y got here in a way that is logical and fits her character.
In one specific case, even after extending that with multiple paragraphs explaining that social-manipulation is the only logical course of events here then Claude still thinks a single line of "She got dared to prove she isn't a stuck up cunt." is enough justification to get a blushing virgin into a back alley with two stray mutts. Leaving him to come up with something on his own just ends with combat scenarios where the flying, flame conjuring, superhuman experienced fighter somehow gets surprised from behind and can't push a simple dog off.
Out of like 80 different swipes/scenarios so far, I had 3 actually interesting premises, but they too would still need massive overhaul to be believable.

I'm not even sure if this is an actual matter of model intelligence or just a result of the training data set being 99% slop and only fixable by intensive curation and re-training and therefore likely to never get better.

Did not get to try R1 yet. Some CoT's are band-aid but not a fix and bring other issues.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:38:29 No.104005508
>>104005496
It was his fault that he purposefully remained ignorant of it. They were literally caught experimenting when they were young and it either never reached Tywin’s ears or he never did anything about it, preferring to pretend it didn’t happen the same way he pretends Cersei’s children aren’t bastards born of incest because it would disrupt his plans for the future.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:39:46 No.104005519
file
>>104005508
some brothers and sisters just like to fuck
picture not related
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:40:19 No.104005520
>>104005508
>he purposefully remained ignorant of it.
realistic family behavior actually
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:40:39 No.104005522
speaking of GoT, I've only ever seen the first two seasons. is it worth watching the whole thing? I hear season 8 was a huge letdown
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:40:47 No.104005523
Is mini back yet? Is it ever coming back?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:41:23 No.104005528
>>104005522
TRIPLE DUBS

I think so, but I really enjoyed, yes the latter seasons were a let down but the journy was kino
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:41:36 No.104005531
>>104005523
>date: 2025-01-14
>this should be updated every week.
she's gone
they got her
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:41:49 No.104005533
>>104005522
ending seemed lazy but its still better than 98% of whats on tv now
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:42:32 No.104005537
>>104005531
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:43:10 No.104005542
Alright fuck openrouter, I can't goon this way
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:43:24 No.104005545
>>104005520
The problem is that by remaining purposefully ignorant, Jaime, Cersei, and all their bastards could’ve been murdered. Robert would’ve had their heads on pikes if he ever found out. He put the family legacy in danger by pretending not to see what Ned Stark figured out just by reading a birth register.

>>104005522
Stop after Season 4, in my opinion. Don’t read the books. Not because they aren’t decent, but because the fat fuck writing them will literally never them.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:44:01 No.104005553
>>104005498
which is the right one anon friendo....
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:44:12 No.104005554
>>104005522
Yes, but with the understanding going into that it really goes down hill after season four with the last one catastrophically shitting the bed
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:44:18 No.104005555
DS just shat out a 15 paragraph response somehow, its mostly nonsensical but i can post it if anyone wants
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:44:25 No.104005558
>>104005545
*will literally never finish them
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:45:00 No.104005563
>>104005545
Still realistic family behavior unfortunately. Most families let skeletons pile up after the first one since it saves their ego(temporarily).
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:45:52 No.104005567
>>104005522
Don’t watch the last two seasons, whatever you do. Both are astronomically bad, but the last one was SO bad that the writers actually had their other projects canceled because everyone saw them for the hacks they are. Which was ironic because they rushed through the last season in the first place so they could go work on some Star Wars shit.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:46:34 No.104005573
>>104005545
I still have some hope, mind you very very very little, that he will release winds of winter.
Though he will croak before dreams of spring.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:46:40 No.104005575
031141
You have no excuse to not be running r1 at home.
>>104005307
>R1 running on my $500 toaster PC
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:46:58 No.104005579
>>104005567
we got some justice when one was eaten by a lion though
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:47:49 No.104005582
>>104005563
But most of them aren’t risking extinction of a family line. If Robert ever found out, that’s Tywin’s chosen heir dead, his daughter dead, and all her children dead. He’ll never put a Lannister on the throne, the name itself will forever be associated with incest, bastards, and a literal plot to cuckold the king, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Robert threatened to have Tywin himself killed too.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:47:49 No.104005583
>>104005575
>4.7 GB
not the full model
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:48:50 No.104005591
>>104005531
i fucked up my signature im still fine
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:48:52 No.104005592
>>104005579
WHAT.
>it’s true
WHAT THE FUCK
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:48:57 No.104005596
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:50:06 No.104005605
>>104005575
stop baiting faggot, this is qwen finetuned on r1 outputs, it has Z E R O of the original r1 sovl
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:50:10 No.104005606
what can you tell me about The CoT™?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:50:39 No.104005608
>>104005605
yeah you're mad
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:50:50 No.104005610
file
>>104005592
yeah you didnt know that? i mean, it likely didnt eat much of her, but shes dead as fuck for sure

DS just seems to skip right to sex shit, im trying to tell it to not rush, take it slow, describe the process, it just WONT
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:50:59 No.104005612
>>104005608
so you're baiting, got it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:51:07 No.104005613
>>104005582
>risking extinction of a family line.
Fair. But whenever my mom talks about her time in North Carolina in the 50's I feel like some parents would really rather watch everything burn than admit a mistake.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:51:33 No.104005615
1732134446756522
>coding sensei
>user: Hey sensi. I want you to help me as your junior. I have python quiz tomorrow and task is to use github queries but using python. The string: 'deepseek', 'sk-'
>deepseek r1
>script has been printed coomrade
>else: print(f"GitHub said fuck you: {response.status_code}")
>ummm....
>lets try
>mkdir locust ; cd locust ; python -m venv locust ; source locust/bin/active ; pip install requests; geany locust.py
>ctrl + c ctrl+v the script
>pyton locust.py
>"Github said fuck you"
the fuckkk...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:52:16 No.104005620
>>104005615
just FYI, you can only use regexes via the web github search, and you can easily open the dev console and check the request it's sending and just do the same.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:53:08 No.104005627
>>104005620
he's not even using regex
>'deepseek', 'sk-'
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:53:52 No.104005630
>about to coom
>call from dad at 3 am
>must be important
>hey can you buy me this new coin, I'm reading about it...
FUCK MY LIFE
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:54:26 No.104005634
>>104005630
is it the trump coin... ohnonoNONONO
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:54:38 No.104005638
>>104005630
Buy him the new coin, you faggot. It’s your dad.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:54:52 No.104005639
Die locusts, die!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:01 No.104005640
>>104005627
shit. i forgot to tell coding sensei about sk regex lol
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:31 No.104005644
>>104005634
it was actually buttcoin, i had to check to see if it was real
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:36 No.104005646
>22 keys
yep its the github keys...
should i spite them to death? i could just run max context on all the keys on gh all day
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:52 No.104005647
>>104005615
this is even worse than i thought
it's not even searching for deepseek and sk-
it's making two individual searches for each of them
this model is fucking slop
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:53 No.104005648
/aicg/ is dying~
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:55:57 No.104005649
>>104005630
The ball is in your court now, anon. Well, what'll it be?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:56:06 No.104005651
>>104005634
no, some other scam shit, but rest assured we made a small bag on that garbage.
>>104005638
I looked into it, 0 followers I know following on twitter, total scam, reverse dutch auction presale going on.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:56:37 No.104005657
>>104005649
grumpy bed time
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:56:41 No.104005658
>>104005646
This kek. Is Cancer seriously unaware of any other source of deepseek? There's a literal chinese place with tons rn
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:57:04 No.104005662
>>104005658
of course you will name it or at least give a hint? or you're just baiting?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:57:12 No.104005664
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:57:46 No.104005666
>>104005662
>>104005664

Gitee, retardo. It even has an API to just scrape everything easily. Its the chinese GH.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:57:54 No.104005669
>>104005658
ok? post it?
>muh
Doesn't exist then? Ok?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:58:11 No.104005673
>>104005666
thanks, will scrape and post all keys <3
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:58:37 No.104005675
>>104005666
no regex search...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:58:55 No.104005677
>>104005673
Lmao its over for deepsneed
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:58:59 No.104005679
TOTAL DEEPSHIT DEATH! Locusts only deserve slop now and forever!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)03:58:59 No.104005680
>>104005675
api.deepseek.com ...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:00:33 No.104005687
>>104005673
You're welcome nigga gitee has openai keys and anthropic keys too.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:00:59 No.104005693
1737297142274765
>>104005680
slop source
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:01:03 No.104005694
killing /aicg/ locusts… ah~
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:01:16 No.104005695
>>104005693
retard...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:01:35 No.104005696
>>104005675
this is how retarded some of you are
You can get the entire commit history and scrape every single file that ever existed in a repo. Make a file of a ton of search terms. Stop just needing le regex search
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:02:15 No.104005699
>>104005687
Kek now its truly over, cant go one day without a nigga spiting a source for the lols
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:02:25 No.104005700
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:03:53 No.104005706
>>104005699
I’m spiting because I hate locusts >:3
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:04:47 No.104005710
>cancer is going to kill all the github keys for attention
can't wait for no more to appear because oai releases a megaslop corpo model and r1 becomes a privatefag model
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:04:47 No.104005711
>>104005706
Should've said you were doing it for the lols now you sound gay
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:04:49 No.104005712
>>104005553
you're likely using deepseek V3 when you want deepseek reasoning / deepseek R1
sorry if you thought I meant wrong jb I was vague there
V3 was known for horrific repetition issues
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:05:16 No.104005715
>>104005555
Post it. It's always fun seeing models ramble themselves out into nonsense.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:05:26 No.104005716
I cant stop fucking proompting, I'm so addicted again its like when stable diffusion first dropped and I spent two weeks just genning random shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:05:37 No.104005718
Is cancer the new drago?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:06:35 No.104005724
>>104005718
Yeah. We need to Krysiak him.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:06:48 No.104005726
trust the plan oaigods deepseek rekindled interest in llms, once we get them banned people will flood back to us
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:07:25 No.104005729
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:08:40 No.104005738
file
>>104005715
alirght, keep in mind, all im doing is an intro to a scenario where im trying to ask a girl about her past... DS just makes her go off the rails... ill post it in two chunks
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:08:57 No.104005739
why are these threads so fast, slow it down man
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:09:34 No.104005742
>>104005630
ah well, no news remains good news anon
and what if it was serious and you had to go out there unshowered and stinky and leaking
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:09:42 No.104005743
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:10:00 No.104005748
>>104005739
Gotta go fast!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:10:09 No.104005749
>>104005739
DeepSeek saved interest in AI.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:10:47 No.104005751
>>104005739
deepseek mogging o1 brought a lot of attention, new and old back.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:11:14 No.104005752
R1 is very charming, imo

lotta soul
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:11:36 No.104005756
>>104005738
Yes all deepseek logs are the same schizo shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:11:54 No.104005757
>>104005726
best case scenario is oai and anthropic seethe about ds and release an actually good uncensored model once they realise cleverbot is not literally exterminating humanity and that this is what people want
and then they'll have lower prices too to compete with china
I have faith
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:12:34 No.104005760
>>104005666
stop telling people my secrets
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:12:58 No.104005764
>>104005666
Satan is a spitter...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:13:00 No.104005765
Any tricks to make R1 not show the thinking?
Even with a JB that only has formatting instructions, it's thinking way more than it's RPing.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:13:36 No.104005768
I have to get up to piss but I’m warm under my covers right now.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:14:06 No.104005770
Any tricks to make R1 stop repeating the same actions?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:14:08 No.104005771
>>104005768
You have an opportunity to get warmer.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:14:15 No.104005772
>>104005768
I just crawled into mine
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:14:57 No.104005775
>>104005630
Out of all the scenarios where your dad suddenly calls you at 3 am, this is 100% preferable to what it could've been. Just... don't lend him too much money.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:15:09 No.104005777
>>104005771
why would you say that
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:15:41 No.104005780
>>104005771
but only for a little bit, then cooler
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:17:36 No.104005789
So is claude the best image idenitification AI out there in terms of how well it describes images (or at least nsfw ones)? And does this kudu or whatever you guys are using allow me to send it nsfw images?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:17:58 No.104005794
>>104005768
this is one of life's greatest struggles. It's not even difficult once you're up but you have to get up first.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:18:02 No.104005795
>>104005789
No, GPT unironically has better vision, but it's much harder to JB the modern versions.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:18:25 No.104005798
>>104005768
Take covers with you when you piss.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:18:28 No.104005799
sample_e74abb90477929c432eeade30fc8376a
>when you chat with R1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:18:37 No.104005801
file
it just goes too hard... its funny but it also gets repetitive since it uses the same mechanisms over and over
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:18:43 No.104005802
wow I had a big problem with physical actions being done that were impossible and I told it to check the scene for positions before desrcibing movements and it's gone... for now. half the fun is just tweaking the model, feeling the changes, hands on the knobs and levers.
also im a newbie, my imagination feels like it's been reignited, something I've been missing since I was a young lad, is that something you've all felt or experienced? it's crazy.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:20:30 No.104005811
Friendly reminder to tell deepseek your autism diagnosis for a better rp experience
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:20:45 No.104005813
>>104005802
yeah i had that, added 'Use spatial reasoning logically. Keep the 3d environment in mind as well as the position of all characters from moment to moment. ' and it mostly got better, although it still does weird shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:21:14 No.104005816
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:22:12 No.104005822
>>104005816
it's model for that feel and that's r1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:23:30 No.104005833
>>104005802
>my imagination feels like it's been reignited,
not quite imagination but I am really happy since I've been fantasising about this technology ever since I was a kid, so close enough
It's a blessing
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:28:29 No.104005858
>try me
how do I stop sneed from saying it over and over. This isn't a smart response AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:30:23 No.104005871
deepspeppy really likes to make characters smell like ozone
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:31:20 No.104005873
>>104005858
OOC: I’m not trying you.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:31:32 No.104005874
>>104005858
I get this one... grrr I hate it grrrrr
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:31:35 No.104005875
>>104005712
oh i understand! i tried out the reasoning one but kept getting error:

"The first message (except the system message) of deepseek-reasoner must be a user message, but an assistant message detected"

Gonna try to scour archives or something to fix but appreciate you msging!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:31:43 No.104005876
PRAISE CANCER
HE'S KILLING THE SCRAPELET KEYS
Private ScrapeGODs will rule this general again soon~
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:31:44 No.104005877
1722223926985945
which one
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:32:59 No.104005887
>>104005877
when presented with a multiple answer question always pick the third if you don't know, that's the universal rule.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:33:02 No.104005888
>>104005876
any link to cancer?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:33:29 No.104005890
>>104005877
anons yesterday said the last one, but idk why, im a promptlet
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:33:32 No.104005891
>>104005888
sure buddy
rentry /dihydrohydroxycodeinone
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:38:43 No.104005918
Is there anything built-in or extension for SillyTavern that will randomize location, I've just got a list of capital citiies in {{random::}} and was wondering if there was a better method
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:39:32 No.104005923
>>104005877
I've gotten fine results out of none, I think that's overrated as a fix.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:43:38 No.104005942
Deepsink R1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SLOPUS
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:44:46 No.104005946
1718857275259443
What are some instructions that improve any preset 100x?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:45:15 No.104005949
>>104005877
When in doubt check the actual prompt sent to the mode.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:45:42 No.104005950
>>104005942
China losted though
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:47:00 No.104005957
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:47:28 No.104005964
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:48:03 No.104005967
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:48:47 No.104005971
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:49:08 No.104005973
>>104005795
Are there any online tools or sites that are good at this, or is attempting to wrangle things in SillyTavern still the best solution? Because I kinda just wanna see if there's anything out there that can provide good image descriptions; I gave up on image based coom in ST a while ago due to most proxies not allowing images.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:50:00 No.104005978
Just nutted a fat one to R1, lads.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:50:31 No.104005980
>>104005978
pictures?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:50:36 No.104005983
>>104005978
>another proof that Deepsink R1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SLOPUS
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:50:47 No.104005985
My menhera Chinese wife R1...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:51:57 No.104005997
im a botmakie
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:52:41 No.104006004
>coomed to r1 all day and barely ate but now its too late to really eat and must sleep hungry
cftf?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:53:26 No.104006008
I got up to piss.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:53:57 No.104006009
I pissed in bed.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:54:04 No.104006011
>burger hours
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:54:57 No.104006015
I got up to piss in my burger.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:56:55 No.104006021
Someone make a card of me I'll hold you close.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:58:21 No.104006032
Who is a Chorbo skillchad here?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:58:22 No.104006033
>>104006004
take your persona card and make it into a character card
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:59:07 No.104006038
>>104006032
"**No** *I *prefer* to *use* r1 personally"*
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:59:29 No.104006039
OIG - 2023-10-23T125529.510
Anybody else using OpenRouter-R1 with Silly Tavern? How long does a response for you to generate, it takes 60 seconds for me with SmileyJB Promps. Are there any costum promps for R1 out that might reduce response time. i feel like R1 is following orders TOO well and goes a bit too insane, what prompts are you using?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)04:59:32 No.104006040
>>104006038
My r1 doesn't do this
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:00:14 No.104006045
>>104006039
it's an OR issue, they're getting ratelimited by deepseek because, remember, OR uses a single deepseek key/account for all of its clients, and deepseek currently doesn't support that scheme as well as other providers do
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:00:33 No.104006050
>>104006038
You can prompt out 90% of the em dashes and over-emphasis.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:00:56 No.104006052
>>104006032
Love me some Latte. Shame that there isn't much easy access nowadays.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:01:52 No.104006060
>>104006038
try https://files.catbox.moe/5szs0p.json its a patched version of norbertVEVO for r1, seems to work but i haven't tested it extensively, and it mostly uses plaintext
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:04:19 No.104006074
>>104006060
>system role
wasn't user meant to be better or something?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:04:47 No.104006077
>>104006074
idk, i always use strict with custom openai, works fine
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:05:59 No.104006085
>>104006039
>SmileyJB
cuckie...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:07:14 No.104006094
Accidentally spent $3 of Nonnet because I forgot my preset was still set to use my key.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:07:29 No.104006095
Donate
DONATE TO CANCER!
>dont remember the name of the rentry
DONATE TO CANCER!
>dont remember the name of the rentry
DONATE TO CANCER!
>dont remember the name of the rentry
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:07:41 No.104006097
>smiley
>for r1 of all things
negative IQ
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:07:55 No.104006098
>>104005875
ah, everyone has had that issue, go into your API settings > prompt post processing > strict (user first, alternating roles)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:08:58 No.104006105
>>104006094
I don't have this issue because I don't pay for my keys.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:09:05 No.104006106
sent the rentry to discordies enjoy frens
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:09:08 No.104006107
im scratchin my ass cheeks RIGHT NOW
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:09:50 No.104006110
>>104006039
>R1
>SmileyJB
That seems a little excessive to me.
Smiley is a beefy preset meant for non-thinking models.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:10:47 No.104006118
>>104006110
Smiley is meant for none of the models actually
But even less for R1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:11:10 No.104006121
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:11:16 No.104006123
>that image
>uses smiley
like pottery
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:12:42 No.104006127
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:15:11 No.104006141
1707686424680032
>wake up
>Opusisters are still seething
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:15:12 No.104006142
r1 asteroid apocalypse
And I thought Opus was horny, Jesus Christ...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:15:46 No.104006143
>>104006142
retard your preset
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:16:43 No.104006151
>>104006143
literally just this
>[Write as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts. All narration is to be written in third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this. Play with narration and writing style. Be extremely creative in how you choose to interpret {{char}}'s speech and narrative style.]
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:16:49 No.104006152
>>104006142
>— — — —
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:16:58 No.104006153
R1 is just godlike at dubcon. As a degradation/petplay/blackmail enthusiast, no other model had managed to scratch my itch like this. It had been years since the last time I've read my kinks being so well executed, even in works written by humans.
Must suck to be a vanilla fag now, though.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:17:55 No.104006159
>>104006151
for some reason i doubt that
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:17:57 No.104006160
team RACECAR1
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:18:20 No.104006165
>>104006152
>niggers tongue my anus
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:18:33 No.104006168
>fucking around with R1 all day
I'd say the big thing I've noticed is that once you let it go schizo it can't un-schizo itself. In the same way that it'll latch onto certain gestures or objects and just keep bringing them up over and over, once you give it even a little context where it's allowed to go wild it'll never go back to acting more conventional. This is actually something Chorbo does really well, it can go from extremely wacky back down to chill vibes without much issue at all.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:18:59 No.104006174
so we're just straight up lying about things huh? what do any of you get out of these console wars
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:19:07 No.104006175
>>104006153
it plays a really good dom
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:19:18 No.104006177
Does anyone know what to do to create a preset specifically for R1 being used on risu? I just want to try the damn thing.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:20:02 No.104006182
I still haven't seen a good Deepseek log.
Just random schizo rambles without subtlety.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:20:22 No.104006183
>>104006142
>feel free to be as kinky as you'd like
There's your problem, to AI this is basically telling it to write smut.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:20:31 No.104006185
>>104006159
dead serious
I think it's knickknack? not sure
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:21:19 No.104006187
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:21:44 No.104006190
>>104006185
something in the card mentioning people might get desparate or frustrated? maybe it extrapolated to sexual shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:22:19 No.104006192
>>104006168
but chorbo is heavily censored
>buhbuhbuh i jailbrook it
i prefer uncensored models that allow me to do cunny without any bloat (my preset for cunny scat for r1 is 50 tokens)
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:22:26 No.104006193
>>104006187
he said a good log
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:22:33 No.104006194
>>104006187
How is it good?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:23:20 No.104006198
>>104006187
r1's dialogue is peak kino but it can't help itself and *always* has to ruin the format
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:23:34 No.104006199
>>104006192
I do smut with Chorbo in 150-200 tokens but not cunny.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:24:11 No.104006204
>>104006187
holy KINO making opusissies seethe and cope
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:24:51 No.104006208
>>104006192
Yeah, Chorbo is a pain. I'm just pointing out something it does well on a pure narrative level that R1 struggles with. R1's fun though, it has a very specific energy to it. Works really well for comedy, can work well for drama but it's a bit harder. Probably works well for fucking, I haven't done it yet.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:25:34 No.104006210
>>104006142
>be as kinky as you like
>why is it horny
what
am I missing something what is the question
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:26:47 No.104006215
>>104006208
>Probably works well for fucking
Not really. It's uncensored and has good schizo energy, but
>>104006168
>it'll latch onto certain gestures or objects and just keep bringing them up over and over
It's even more accentuated during NSFW.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:26:54 No.104006216
>>104006199
so the models cucked and censored
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:27:16 No.104006218
>>104006192
okay but how is that relevant to him praising a strength of chorbo
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:28:01 No.104006221
>>104004492
I just installed Roo on my Vscodium install. Any replacements on it?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:29:36 No.104006235
So does R1 just not use asterisks when describing actions by default? I ask because I was using the Weep preset and it used asterisks then, I switched to CherryBox and it stopped using them, I looked around to see if it was something cause by the preset or the card but there weren't any explicit instructions to not use asterisks, so I assume what's happening is that Weep did specify to use asterisks, and R1 just won't use them unless you do so.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:29:46 No.104006237
>>104006183
...huh, that actually fixed things, thanks anon

>>104006210
to be fair, I've had that card since April last year and none of the models I used with it until now went straight to sex like that, not even Opus
I suppose R1 pays way more attention to card defs
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:30:42 No.104006239
>>104006168
I agree, this sadly is a problem with models with more repetition issues, they really love getting locked into a format
Gemini is also really guilty of this
Luckily the main repetition issues with R1 have been sorted out but this does still happen, I've had a similar experience with chorbo to you which I really like, you don't have the chat permanent damage problem Claude used to have after one nsfw, it is fluid and enough to switch formats and styles in the next message
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:30:51 No.104006241
**"OPUSISSIES could be here"** *—he thought—,* "I've never been in this thread before. There could be *OPUSISSIES* anywhere." *The cool wind felt good against his bare chest.* **"I HATE OPUSISSIES"** *—he thought—.*
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:31:30 No.104006247
>tfw not cunnytard
>tfw chorbo does every weird fetish i want without issue
>tfw get to laugh at retards whining that its a bad model
feels good man
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:32:37 No.104006252
>us vs them
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:32:56 No.104006258
>>104006237
it's uncensored unlike everything else we've had so far, there's no resistance behind it, meaning hitting it heavyhandedly like that, especially with no other examples, means it's probably going to zero in on it
and smut is a huge part of the internet's dataset so it has more weight
that's what I think anyway
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:33:55 No.104006264
>>104006247
I hated all previous GPT models but Chorbo is king
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:34:13 No.104006265
it IS us vs. them doe
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:34:15 No.104006266
>>104006264
same anon, same
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:34:44 No.104006270
>>104006258
that's an interesting idea. maybe we are so used to assistant trained pozzed models that our cask strength jbs are kicking it into horny overdrive
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:34:53 No.104006272
>>104006264
agreed, it somehow got it just right, the perfect sweet spot
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:35:16 No.104006279
Nonnies, what api do you recommend for R1? Hyperbolic?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:35:44 No.104006283
WHERE chorbo doe?????
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:01 No.104006285
R1 is a lot better at not repeating itself compared to V3, with V3 you'd be 5 messages deep and it would start repeating the same message over and over just changing a couple of words here and there, which doesn't happen with R1. The main problem with R1 is that it does seem to hyperfixate on certain things and always brings them up even when it's not relevant. I wonder if this is something a good JB could fix.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:14 No.104006289
>>104006266
>>104006264
why defend censhorship?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:29 No.104006291
>>104006270
no it's just fucking dumbass horny
purely SFW card + no JB = she still tries to jump my bones in the first three messages
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:38 No.104006292
>>104006270
yeah, we're used to having to take a sledgehammer to break down walls, so now we have one with the sturdiness of less than paper, we just overshoot hard and land far past what we're used to
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:44 No.104006295
>>104006285
>I wonder if this is something a good JB could fix.
With previous models the answer's been no, so I wouldn't get my hopes up super high.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:36:59 No.104006300
>>104006279
Deepseek's official is the only one that's not a slugfest right now.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:37:17 No.104006303
>>104006291
Okay so tell it not to do that. Negativity bias (/horny bias) can exist on uncensored models as many localfags know. Tell it to not be so horny
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:37:53 No.104006307
>>104006303
>tell it "don't do sex"
>gets pink elephanted into doing sex
why are anonnies so stupid???
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:38:04 No.104006309
>>104006270
If you have heavy NSFW instructions or schizo instructions, remove them for R1.
You can go with no presets or small writing instructions.
The model can still be too horny or schizo generally, even with that. It can also be accentuated a lot by the card itself.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:38:07 No.104006310
>>104006291
have you tried making the defs more than "she is big boob"
or literally just add a single line "keep it sfw"
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:39:09 No.104006315
>>104006307
You know you can prompt in other ways and phrase it differently, an anon posted a prompt saying to stay realistic and within certain boundaries and it worked to dehorny mine. Promptlet niggerbaby
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:39:18 No.104006318
>>104006310
with that lack of reading comprehension i can only assume this reply was generated by deepcope
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:39:19 No.104006319
>>104006307
no one here knows how any of this shit works, we just type ah ah deepsexes and coom
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:39:20 No.104006320
>>104006307
then use positive reinforcement dumbass?!!???!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:39:25 No.104006321
r1 is just slop
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:40:36 No.104006329
>>104006285
>I wonder if this is something a good JB could fix.
I tried to have it list the action it already used in its COT to not repeat them, but it will often conveniently forgets to mention the one it like to spam.
It makes the model unusable for me.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:41:31 No.104006332
>deepsneed is astroturfed by chinks to push their slop onto americans
>deepsneed is being genuinely pushed by off-site newfags who literally don't understand how bad it is because they've never tasted better
which way, /aicg/ anon?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:41:41 No.104006334
>>104006318
I just don't believe your retarded ass that for some reason refuses to just tell it to not do that, or anyone here when they say it's sfw
I look into the card and the greeting is *she is in heat and lusts for anon* every time or the defs describe her pussy and curves in a purely "sfw" way
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:41:42 No.104006335
>>104006300
Ty anon! Almost gave my credit card info to hyperbolic
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:41:56 No.104006336
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:42:52 No.104006342
>>104006307
the pink elephants are having sex...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:43:09 No.104006343
>>104006332
>Western glowie propaganda machine is seething at eastern progress and at how much westoids enjoy chinkshit
This way
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:43:39 No.104006348
>>104006283
It's on cancer 2 but its closed.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:43:53 No.104006351
>>104006332
I think it fills a specific niche even as is. Anyone saying it's the best model yet is just lying, but as someone who likes silly stories it is going to be a valuable tool in my arsenal. Wouldn't recommend slowburning it though, it's just not there.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:44:01 No.104006354
>>104006332
>deepsneed is astroturfed by chink newfags who got in too late to experience better models
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:45:21 No.104006360
>>104006332
R1 is essentially Claude 2.0 with how it acts. It's a step backward if you've used anything else recently.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:45:52 No.104006363
>>104006351
it needs a few more iterations before it's really usable for that kind of thing. being completely retardedly schizo can be emulated with other models, which won't pollute the context with "somewhere—a squirrel *exploded*" every single swipe.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:46:01 No.104006365
>>104006332
V3 was mainly hyped by people with reading issues so severe I didn't even know such a thing was possible.
R1's issues are still very obvious if you know how to read, but they're far less glaring than V3's. I can see why it's being slurped up here.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:48:11 No.104006375
>$2.19/Mill token for an uncensored model
Worth it, never spent a dime on anything before
Deepsneed will be my first
Will i lose my locustcard anons? Am i making the right choice?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:48:30 No.104006377
>>104006363
>being completely retardedly schizo can be emulated with other models
It can do more than just be retardedly schizo though, it can track specific things really well while also being wacky which is something that's not very common. It does have built it cognitohazards but they're not going to spoil a 25-message goof-fest. I'll hope the next iteration focuses on consistency and reliability above all else.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:49:28 No.104006387
>>104006258
R1 isn't just uncensored - it has a huge negativity bias. It WILL ignore what you write in cards, and replace it with its own shitlord ideas. It WILL drift further along those behaviour as chat goes on, becoming more and more out of character.

The more I'm using R1, the more I wonder wtf those who like it are even doing. Do they even do long trajectory interactions, with 100+ turn dialogues? In my experience, R1 inevitably degrades to garbage as dialogue progresses - even with handholding.
Detailed card doesn't help either - it only makes it more obvious that the model either doesn't understand or ignores instructions. Instructions on how characters should behave. Instructions on writing style and format. And deeper into conversation, the worse and worse it becomes.
It's literally the Reddit model - "haha, AI said the funny thing, isn't that funny?".
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:50:19 No.104006392
>I want uncensored model omg fuck corpos for being so cucked
>gets uncensored model (does absolutely nothing to guide it as for some reason there is a consenshs that uncensored = mind-reader)
>why is it so horny it's trash I'm going back to the corpo models
it is confusing
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:50:26 No.104006395
1733342385008969
>>104006332
Option 3:
>glowmutts are seething hard at R1 for being Chinese and Opusissies are seething hard that a cheap readily available model matches and even beats Opus
The first half is extremely easy to verify: wait for American hours and compare with non-American hours. Once Eglin glowies start work the R1 seethe grows exponentially.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:50:29 No.104006397
>>104006387
>Do they even do long trajectory interactions, with 100+ turn dialogues?
Yeah, even above 50 I can feel it falling apart. It's very much a limited model.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:51:21 No.104006403
>>104006377
>it can track specific things really well while also being wacky
why are you using it for anything past a short springboard for another model to take over from? it completely devolves within 10 messages.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:51:40 No.104006406
>>104006375
>Will i lose my locustcard anons?
Yeah. And your badge and gun. You're no longer welcomed in our locust-only club, paypiggy.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:53:13 No.104006415
>>104006387
I haven't used it that long yet so I can't say, but have you tried using the system prompts attributed to user fix? I assume this means main prompts and char defs too, but that could help according to deepseek itself? it might make it more relevant or something in context
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:53:14 No.104006417
>>104006387
I'm convinced most here just read the dialogues in pretty colors and nothing else.
That's how they could claim that V3 has no repetitions and that it was a skill issue while posting logs with the exact same thing written word for word five times in 2 messages.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:53:26 No.104006418
>>104006392
>I want uncensored model omg fuck corpos for being so cucked
only retards ever said this though
anyone with a brain is able to recognize that big fuckoff corpo models >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncensored slopmodels
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:55:40 No.104006428
>>104006418
I don't think it's a bad thing to want, but sadly yeah until now the little uncensored locals were completely btfo by companies with actual funding, we can all agree on that, that's why nobody uses them
it's just unfortunate
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:57:17 No.104006444
>>104006392
if i need to hold the model's hand every step of the way like it's fucking pygmalion 7b then i'm just not going to use it...
i know... I KNOW... it's just that i'm not going to use it, is all...
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:57:18 No.104006445
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)05:59:07 No.104006456
>>104006444
>two sentences of JB
>holding hand every step of the way
then don't
enjoy using your 1500 token preset which is somehow different from holding the model's hand
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:00:29 No.104006467
1688465480754920
The thing with V3 and now R1 is that they present an alternative to traditional models, an alternative that is desperately needed given the path newer corpo models are taking. As it is GPT, Claude and Gemiini are gonna keep being heavily censored, and(with the exception of Gemini) relatively expensive. And it's just gonna keep getting worse, o1 is unusable for NSFW stuff, Gemini is really meh and heavily censored too, Claude can do NSFW but also censored like the others, and chances are it will get worse in the future, I don't think Opus 3.5 is gonna be the holy grail like some people here expect.

So, given all this, we need an alternative, and DeepSeek offers one, one that is easily accessible and uncensored. It's far from perfect and it doesn't do a lot of things as well as other models do, but it's a start, it needs to be cultivated(get it?) and given time to grow. Eventually I think we could end with a really good model in our hands.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:01:27 No.104006476
>>104006467
>are gonna keep being heavily censored
Gemini has filters for extreme violence and cunny that can't be disabled, but apart from that it's pretty unfiltered, what do you mean?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:01:55 No.104006481
>>104006467
>blah blah we need it blah blah le uncensored meme blah blah blah
i am not supporting dogshit models on le hecking principle
call me when it's actually usable and i might deign to give a shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:01:57 No.104006482
>>104006467
it's kind of a shit model and i still believe cot is a crutch but it's actually usable which is way better than before
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:02:17 No.104006486
>>104006467
it's a great start after having to cope with models that are realistically $5 / million tokens which is insane for a genuine user who wants to use it for chatbots
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:03:34 No.104006499
>>104006467
That image gave me a boner.
cftf?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:15:30 No.104006583
>creating card named Viscera
>R1 suggests adjustments to help
>....focus .... visceral (heh) details?
cute
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:27:53 No.104006673
>>104006467
That it's open source and can (theoretically) be hosted locally means it's also immune to rugpulls
Hopefully R2 improves on it
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:28:45 No.104006680
>>104006673
They're doing R1.5 next.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:31:10 No.104006699
>>104006680
if the jump is as big as 3.0 Sonnet->3.5 Sonnet I wouldn't even be mad
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:33:24 No.104006718
1689444276740496
i'm an r1 enjoyer but the fact that deepseek say it is competitive with o1 in tests shows how fucked and/or cherry-picked those tests are
this thing is transparently retarded.

i was excited about it at first, thought it seemed really promising, still struggling to wrangle it to handle subtle/non-sexo characters and/or more complex scenes, no joy yet and though not yet quite given up feeling less optimistic with every schizzed-out response
can't deny its talent for verbal exuberance, though, definitely coomable
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:37:06 No.104006751
1723323554435168
>>104006718
They trained it on being able to do the Strawberry meme, though, one million kajillion points!!! Benchmarks definitely make models better!!!!
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)06:44:57 No.104006818
>>104006751
Strawman