should i get a relatively cheap x230 if it has an i5?
alternatively i could by a t420 and upgrade the cpu...

epoxy on my ram and rom

>>103954648
If you don't need the smaller form factor then get the T420, you can coreboot it and install quad core Ivy Bridge and FHD/QHD display.

>>103954769
What about cum?>>103954789

im loaning my spare laptop to a friend for a week whats the best way to clean cum keys please help

My X220 still does everything I need to do.

>>103954581
hello thinkpad anon
im looking to buy a new laptop and im thinking of going with a thinkpad, but idk where to start
ill be using it for writing and watching youtube, maybe some retro gaming.
probably need some decent specs because i want the freedom to open like 25 browser tabs while doing other shit

>>103955394
>but idk where to start
look at the op
>Model generations:
>>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)
personally use W520 and have W510, ask anything

>>103955451
what retailer would you recommend for getting a used thinkpad?

Looking to finally upgrade from my t420 to do some mobile music production.
Aiming for 16gb of ram and at least a quad core CPU.
Are the t14 various models as repairable as the old stuff? Is there a particular generation I should avoid? Seems like they're reasonably priced.
T480 are plentiful, but how much power am I missing out on with that?

>>103955494
I'm in europe and always buy directly from people in my area
just scrolling facebook marketplace regularly and looking for something cool
not sure if it works this way anywhere else

>>103955545
i'll take a look. I haven't had to buy a new laptop in over a decade so im a little lost

>>103955578
>I haven't had to buy a new laptop in over a decade
if you mean new as in new for you, yeah
if you mean new as in modern, you don't need it
I have upgrade plans for my W520 but even now it's a fucking beast
I can't imagine how would anyone need more for
>writing
>watching
>retro gaming
if/when I coreboot it I'll be able to put even i7-3940XM and 32GB RAM and this machine will be fucking unbeatable

>>103955620
>if you mean new as in new for you, yeah
>if you mean new as in modern, you don't need it
I mean I haven't had to shop for a laptop in over a decade. but yeah I have no need to buy a new new laptop
>W520 but even now it's a fucking beast
cool I start looking around for that and other models
ty anon

>>103955620
What do anons think of a Thinkpad E15? I see one on ebay for $284.
I figure I could buy something like that, use it for a year, and then upgrade if there are any bothersome shortcomings.
My only concern is the1.6 ghz processor speed. With how retarded websites and browsers are these days I'd be worried it would get bogged down during basic browsing.

>>103955145
Technically true for me as well but sadly my human nature makes me long for more.

>>103955544
I've got T14 gen 2 (intel) from work and it's acceptable build quality wise, it's got one memory slot so you can get 40 or 48GB RAM total depending on the base configuration. Of course it's nowhere near the T420 keyboard feel wise, I also hate how sharp are the edges on the palm rest, but that's something you can't escape from on any laptop built after ~2013 it seems.

on a T470 right now.

fuck this keyboard lol

>>103956104
>for $284
I'm too poor for it so don't care
also E15 what? this series has "gen" stupidity

>>103956772
well it surely sucks in comparison with classic 7-row keyboard
but I still find it way better than the average craptop bullshit
not bad, not ideal

Stupid to ask, but what's the best ThinkPad for DOS and Win9x gaming nowadays? Able to get down to 486 at least, and be strong enough to reasonably run stuff like Deus Ex and Quake 3? If I have to emulate DOS through XP, or something, I'll take it.

>>103955145
ive daily driven this for years and then god a ryzen desktop and never looked back

>>103957927
I have T21 and it's kinda struggling with XP a bit, but should be fine for earlier things I guess
still trying to install heroes of might and magic 3 on XP though
T21 is Pentium 3, without even SSE3 btw

>>103954581
What's the used Thinkpad to get in 2025?

>>103958059
T480, you might want to replace the trackpad for an X1C one though.
>"muh T440p"
performance wise the 8250 gets on par with the 4700MQ -- and when it doesn't the power efficiency makes up for it, keyboard wise you can get the T25's keyboard + palm chassis and put it on the T480, and you can do a 4K screen upgrade (at the cost of battery life).
only get that piece of junk if you get it for free or under 50 bucks

if you want to bump up to 12th gen Intel, you can try getting the T14 (or L14) Gen 3; they're slowly being ditched out by corpos into surplus and ewaste facilities. for AMD, only worthwhile model imo is the T14 Gen 1, which you can get for cheap but do expect them to put up with cleaning them since they were usually given out during the pandemic for home office.

>>103956701
Wait, one of the ram sticks is soldered? Disgusting.

E531 or L540? both have 8gigs of ram, which one is usually preferable?

>>103952798

Any help?

>>103959601
don't use windows 11, and just buy two soddim hussein sticks i know ddr5 ones are a bit expensive but nigga its 8gb what did you expect

>>103959601
install gentoo

>>103959629
The original plan was to install win10, but when I was going to do it I saw like 8 different partitions and I'm afraid of crapping my laptop. Besides, it would be a shame to waste the OEM license.
>but nigga its 8gb what did you expect
In the future I plan to expand 16gb dual channel, for now I have to managesomehow. I spent the little money I had on this garbage
>>103959659
At the moment, Linux does not meet my needs for computer aided design.

>>103959701
>The original plan was to install win10
stupid, but fair enough; i've personally just given up on W10 and now i just use W11 IoT with OpenShell whenever im forced to use winblows
>but when I was going to do it I saw like 8 different partitions and I'm afraid of crapping my laptop
if you've already backed up your data who gives a shit, since i'm guessing its an OEM install, most of those partitions are just for recovery garbage that you don't need
>Besides, it would be a shame to waste the OEM license.
true but at the same time its kind of stupid when you can hwid-gen another license whenever you want, not to add that you shouldn't be using consumer windows in the first place
>In the future I plan to expand 16gb dual channel
guessing that right now you're just using single channel 8gb so it should cost you about 30 bucks for another 8gb stick to get dual channel, its not a lot but i'm sure you can save up for that in a week or two

>>103957482
>also E15 what?
just E15 as far as I know. I don't know much about the different model lines.

>>103960124
giv processor name

>>103960145
Intel Core i5-10210U 1.6Ghz
I'm concerned it's too weak, not that I plan to do any gaming or video editing, but I'm worried about it chugging when trying to load some retarded poorly optimized website.

>>103960271
that's Gen 1 then.

there's not a lot of differences between 8th through 10th gen (hell they use the same UHD 620 iGPU), so realistically you should probably look towards other models (like muh T480) to save a buck. not to add that E series are basically ewaste, at minimum you should be looking for L series as they have magnesium roll cages.
cc >>103958210

>>103960316
>are basically ewaste
ok thanks, these are the types of details i'm trying to figure out
>>103960316
>L series
alright i'll look around at those for a bit

>>103960271
I second anon's advice to get a T480 instead. cheaper, just as good, and you can mod it to death with shit like (in no particular order) glass trackpad, dual heatpipe cooler, 2nd nvme in the wwan slot, better screen panels, larger battery, 64GB ram if you want (the E15 since it's newer is likely to have soldered RAM, the T480 has 2 usable slots), you can even libreboot it if you want
I'm typing this on mine right now

>>103960371
>these are the types of details
the thing with E series is that they're built as cheaply as possible (pure ABS, no roll cage or anything) since they're sold at small businesses; due to this they are pretty fragile and also scarce as they are held onto by businesses for as long as they can unlike X and T series who pretty much upgrade and sell off their stuff every 2 years.

L series are also in the small business boat, but are a stepup to the E series when it comes to build quality, so those that survive the recycle/buy cycle often come in decent shape. imo L series are superior to current T series because of the RAM slots, but they're a bit hard to get depending on where you live.

>>103960397
ty bestie

>>103960397
>mod it to death
that sounds fun
are these mods easy to do though? I have a bunch of experience building and upgrading PCs.

>>103960461
they're ridiculously easy to perform, mainly because T series were built to be given maintenance to. the display and trackpad mods are probably the hardest but they're more about taking your time and make sure things fit nicely.

Are lenovo laptops in general more repairable than other brands? Recently I've replaced two keyboards, one on an ideapad and one on a samsung NP350 and the former was such an easier job.

>>103960461
yeah from what I've done with mine they're really easy to do. imo the "hardest" one is the trackpad mod and it only needs you to open the case (6 screws), remove the internal battery, and then it's 2 screws to remove the old trackpad. the screen mod is just removing the screen bezel, unscrewing 4 screws, unplugging the display cable, and doing those steps in reverse with the new panel, you don't even need to open the laptop
I used to have a X230 before and the T480 is WAY easier to work with

Anons, just picked up this old used T540P. I don't think it shows in this image but the display looks kinda... washed out? Almost like it's too bright? Not enough contrast maybe?
Wondering if this is something that I can fix in software or if I need a new display.

>>103960858
Oops, uploaded it sideways, oh well.
Should also mention that this is even after messing with the gamma

>>103960858
KDE issue, switch to lxde

>>103962392
It's like this with i3 as well

>>103955145
As someone who had an X220 and had to upgrade because of how weak the iGPU is, this seems like absolute poorfag cope.

>>103956104
I bought a 12 series Intel laptop for 500 open box. It's terrific and has an OLED screen. Upgradeable ram and storage.

Stop buying old shit unless it's dirt cheap.

>>103960397
>>103960459
suppose I was willing to shell out for a new one. are there any new models that are contenders?

>>103963070
What do you need a strong igpu for? Don't tell me you're over 18 and you still play games, that would be pathetic.

>>103963260
if you've GOTTA buy a new one right now, i'd go for the T14 Gen 5 (specially the AMD model) as they're a return to form for the T series and now feature SODIMMs, RJ45 jack, easy-to-replace keyboard (with a new TrackPoint), etc. they're just beautiful machines and are worth it... however...
if you're willing to wait a bit, Gen 6 should come out Q3 with Lunar Lake and Strix Point chips, which would be a massive step up as SP brings insane power efficiency while LL brings a Battlemage iGPU. if lenovo continues the path they're currently going at with the T series, they're gonna be 10/10 nobrainer recommendation, but that's up for debate as LL switched on-package memory, they might get rid of the SODIMM slots (again) for the Intel model and they might do the same for AMD or atleast return to the single SODIMM slot.

aside from that, no idea, the P1 Gen 7 has LPCAMM2 slots and 4000 series Nvidia dGPUs but that's about all i know for other series; L-series remains to be my goat since they carry the old T-series design language and what not so might aswell check that too if you're on a budget or want muh thinkpad feelz

>>103963813
What about the Snapdragon Gen 6. Apparently the battery life is insanely good. I know that compatibility is a concern for Windows ARM but 95% of the software that I use is ARM compatible. I'm deciding between getting a T14s or a M3 Air (same price).

btw, question about my W520
currently it has dual-core i7 and I'm going for a quad-core one
what do you think of 2920XM vs 2820QM?
is it going to make noticeable performance difference?
it's 55 vs 45 watts vs 35 currently, will it melt?
same question for 3rd gen in case of successful coreboot
is 3940XM worth it? which i7-3* should I buy?

>bought a used x280 for ~$100 thanks to this thread
thanks /g/ods it runs great
t. anon from a couple months ago

>>103966048
3632QM is a nice update with the same TDP, but surely W520 can handle the more powerful 45W versions, probably even the 55W ones. I wouldn't bother with the sandy bridge cpus, corebooting is pretty simple.

>>103966211
>3632QM
I saw that one but apparently it's even less GHz than current option?
sure it's quad core but still, I wanna do thinkpad maxxxing
for ivy bridge, two questions: is 3940XM good and what else if not 3940XM?

>>103966048
>>103966211
I have i7 3630QM (45 watt) in my T430 without any special heatsink/thermal paste,
never heats up on windows 7 and linux mint,
but feels warmer on windows 10 (maybe because of all the bloatware),
I never play games on it though, maybe it'll overheat/throttle

>>103966278
Then go for the 3940XM if you want to max it out. I went from 2520M to the 3632QM and it was quite a big jump, it no longer struggled playing 4K HEVC (although it can't play UHD bluray remuxes) and everything felt faster in general.

>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)
I don't have Elitebooks with Ryzen in my location but I can import Zhan(that's what they call Elitebooks in China). Any experience with them?
>7735u
>RAM and SSD upgradeable
>14 inch 120Hz 2560x1600 IPS
Potentially will make it a Linux machine.

>>103966349
>go for the 3940XM if you want to max it out
maybe I'll do this, but there's just one (two?) problems with it: price
I don't know if 55 watts is a problem, but anyway, I'm also looking at cheaper options
kind of looking for others' experiences and making my mind
>2520M to the 3632QM and it was quite a big jump
yeah I imagine that

bump

I recently corebooted my t440p. Is it possible to switch between coreboot distributions (such as libreboot) just via internal flashing, or do I have to do a hardware flash just to swich between coreboot distros?

I miss the blinking indicator lights :-(

>>103968557
coreboot allows for internal flashing, and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to flash other distributions through it

look at this picture I took of my thinkpad /g/

>>103968557
Yes, I'd suggest making sure your install has ssh enabled so you can flash it with no display if you fuck something up.

>>103968824
>>103968959
Nice. I corebooted it with skulls, but I'd like to experiment with other payloads such as Tianocore since skulls only has SeaBIOS by default. Do you mean enable SSH in the OS, or are there coreboot payloads that have an SSH daemon? My drive is encrypted so if in that scenario I'd probably have to plug in an external display.

>>103969071
I meant in the OS and you can type the password blind, that's what I had to do when I was messing around with libgfxinit on my T420 with 1440p panel, but at least the T420 has HDD activity light which helped me a bit. But you'll be fine unless you start doing some code patching yourself, which I don't think there's a need to on a stock T440p.

Did anyone had the GPU in their P50 die? I wonder if it's a smart decision to use this thing like a gaming laptop.

Alright frienders, I am thinking of buying pic related. Its a refurbished t480 from amazon.
Of course refurbished products don't always work perfectly, so I figure I might need to buy a new battery or track pad or something. But hopefully everything is fine and I get exactly what I need for a low price.
But what do YOU think?

>>103963070
>>103963291
yeah i second this anon, what are you even doing that needs more?

>>103969609
The gold standard, upgraded mine and put 64gb of ram.
The only downside is that you can't upgrade the CPU. I would like to throw away the i5 and replace it by a new i7

>>103970417
>The only downside is that you can't upgrade the CPU
yes, that is regrettable. but it shouldn't be a problem because I don't plan on doing any video editing or other intensive shit.
just gonna write, watch YouTube, shit post, maybe make memes.
with that in mind, what potential annoyances might I run into because of the limited CPU?

>>103970536
You should be good

>>103955451
I am getting a laptop from work, the T16 Gen 2s are in budget.. is there a reason they are left off this list?

>>103970794
idk but I'd guess
>soldered memory
>one storage slot
>probably soldered cpu
>no card reader
>only 2 usb-a ports
at least that's what I think
first three make it an instant no for me

What's the best model with a numpad keyboard under $400?
Mainly would be used for office work on Windows to replace a T450. Seems like the best option out there is a T15 at the moment

>>103969111
I did it and it worked just fine. Thanks guys!

>>103965254
>intelaviv
>>103965303
i have no idea about SD stuff but all i know is that performance suffers compared to its x86 equivalents and that its not upgradeable, + no linux support and shitty driver support. i know it'll get better with time but right now i just see it as a stupid purchase compared to the alternatives (specially if you just fucking wait 6 months for SP and LL)
>>103969609
>220 for an outdated piece of shit
bezos strikes again goyim you vill buy ze overpriced ewaste you vill NOT visit your local ewaste facility and get one for free

>>103971819
>best model with a numpad keyboard
W701ds
>under $400
no idea

>>103971960
what makes it a piece of shit?

>>103972026
the t480 is a good machine but falls short with the current ewaste market selling Picasso/Raven and Alder Lake laptops for 150-250. its a good buy i'm not gonna lie and i love my t480, its extensivle and repairable, but its hard to excuse paying more than 150 for one knowing there are better options that keep the same repairable spirit (re: latitude 5x3x, AMD L-series, etc)

I ordered a t480. What should I do to it when I get it?

>>103972461
cum on it

>>103972460
as I understand it, you're paying for build quality in addition to the specs with something like the t480

>>103972473
You silly boy. :3

>>103972473
Ok, should I cum to anything specific?

>>103972556
loli is a must for a Thinkpad user

>>103972461
cum on it
>>103972513
while true, you really gotta also paint the picture of how much money you're spending 220 dollars on a laptop that you're gonna have to spend money on:
- getting a new trackpad
- buying a new batteries
- buying new ram and storage
- replacing the screen if its one of those 768p panels
- getting a flasher if the thunderbolt port is cooked
- etc
its an investment that you gotta act smartly on, and yeah buying from goymazon is not a smart move
>re old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1cq3u2u/the_ultimate_thinkpad_t480_buying_guide/

I had no idea about laptops and spent hours upon hours in those threads and bought a refurbished t480 for 500€ the battery is good for only one hour and the display is too small imo in hindsight I should’ve just went to a store to throw 1k on a new piece of technology like a normal person

>>103973090
>t480 for 500€
why

>>103973696
>what's intel me
glowies are in your walls watching you jerk off to loli trust me their in-cpu tpm is the least concerning shit
>>103973090
>spend hours upon in those threads
>spent 500 on a t480
LMFAOOOOO FUCKING RETARD HOW CAN YOU NOT EVEN READ THE FUCKING THREAD STICKY OH MY GOD

>>103971819
Corebooted W451 with i7-4940MX swap, 3K screen and 32GB RAM.

The boss is getting me a laptop with a budget of $700 + tax
Whats the best I can get for that price?
It'll be for office work and I already have a gaming computer so I want something with the best general specs possible since he said I will be able to keep it.
Portability isn't an issue because its just going to be used at work and only at work.
I might be willing to put in an extra hundred myself if there is something out of budget that is worth it.
Thank you all anons for the help

Is there a ThinkPad T, X, or W/P that is a 2 in 1 with amd cpu with integrated 780m or 880m?

>>103975912
>The boss is getting me a laptop with a budget of $700 + tax
>he said I will be able to keep it.
wow what an amazing opportunity. i would heavily scrutinize anons responses so you dont fuck this up. i dont have any recs because ive never even wanted to spend that much on a computer but obviously get something used so you can get better specs at a lower price, preferably in person so you can test things out however i understand this might not be an option, in that case just make sure you are really getting something functional. sorry i dont have any recs, but hopefully another anon does.

>>103976451
The plan was to get this originally but its sold out so I might have to wait till February to get another deal like this.
I am hesitant to get anything used because like I said the boss is paying for this one and I don't think he is going to go for anything used

https://www.costco.com/msi-modern-15h-156-touchscreen-laptop---intel-core-ultra-9-185h---fhd-1920-x-1080---windows-11.product.4000310430.html

>computrace enabled but not activated
pozzed or not?

>>103976521
>I am hesitant to get anything used because like I said the boss is paying for this one and I don't think he is going to go for anything used
yeah thats what i figured, but be aware you are likely going to have to compromise on better specs for a lower price just for the _new_ factor. not a big deal considering this opportunity but it sounds like you're forced to into this path anyways so you might as well just not worry about it and still take as much advantage of it as you can.

>>103976569
In the end having access to costco deal pricing likely puts me in the same boat as buying something secondhand but like I said I already have a good PC I just wanted to max out the specs in that price range even if I'm only going to use it for work.

>>103973132
>>103973862
germany

Do the 90/120Hz panels on Thinkpads or Elitebooks support VRR on linux? With AMD primarily but also interested in Lunar Lake.

I'm toying with the idea of buying the Zbook Ultra with Strix Halo or something with a 680m or better that I can game on a bit with friends sometimes.

>>103979400
thinkpads are way overpriced in germany, you can get way newer elitebook for that price

My X200 is fucked, man.

>Sometimes randomly reboots (uncommon but annoying)
>Lately my page down button doesn't work and my page up button mass spams page down until I press another key

The latter isn't even a weird browser or OS issue, it literally happens when I switch the laptop on. The boot gets interrupted by a key being pressed and the text flickers as if the key is being spammed. I gotta press F1 to enter BIOS then F10 to save and exit to boot lmao

>Still daily grinding with it

>>103980108
Sounds like you need to replace the keyboard.

>>103979500
I'll have Intel P14s with 90Hz panel soon so I'll test that. I know that AMD and nVidia VRR works fine on desktops but I've never tried it with anything Intel.

I got a ThinkPad to attract autistic trannies.

>>103983635
they're into chromebooks now, but on the plus side you can now attract chad males who will complement you for your computing decisions

>>103980108
>>103982584
yeah they're not really expensive so why not

how do i unscrew these vga screws without a key like that

What's a relatively modern Thinkpad with an actual good display? So at least 1080p, low input lag, >400cd, >100% sRGB and - most importantly - non-shit pixel response times. Reading a lot of reviews of old Thinkpads and they all have abysmal response times even when they have decent brightness and >100% sRGB. VRR is optional but very welcome.
Is there even something business/workstation-branded that fits this or do I have to look into gamer-branded shit?

>>103984108
use an adjustable spanner

>>103984108
you shouldn't need to unscrew them before you take the motherboard and shit outside the case
and when you do so it's pretty easy with pliers, for example
that's what I used

alright frienders, I bought my first Thinkpad. I'm not telling you which model or how much I paid for it though because I don't want to get made fun of

How does this make you feel anons?

>>103984108
Jeet detected.

About a year ago, I got a t430 on eBay for like 35 bucks and the only issue was a bad CMOS battery. Good cosmetic condition too. My only real problem with it is the horrid screen

>>103984348
gut gemacht unsrer arischer brüder

tried to put x220 keyboard on x230 mobo and i saw fucking smoke come out
the keyboard is fine though??

>>103985231
you were supposed to cover up some of the contacts with masking tape.
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads#Warning

>>103985255
i did lmao
i was wondering what the fuck was wrong and what's that LED but it's literally something going red

>>103985419
sleeper agent thinkpad is crazy

>w530 i7-3740QM
>sitting here with firefox open
>70-80c temps
Is this normal or is it time to open it up and clean?

>>103985270
>>103985231
ok it's done and works
i even have vulkan now, nice
issue is i cracked the frame aroiund the keyboard, fuck

Can anyone with a T410 and a 3D scanner scan the hard drive bay faceplate and send me a STL

I have new-ish P16s gen3 (intel) coming in soon with 2x16GB RAM installed, now I'm not sure if I should go all in and buy 2x48GB CL46 sticks or just 2x32GB CL40. Price difference is quite small, but the 64GB kit has a bit better timing, both are 5600MT which is the fastest it can run anyway. I have no problem utilizing 64GB on my desktop, but on a laptop it seems a bit overkill, but then again big number makes grug happy.

>>103987654
>big number makes grug happy.
that's one of the reasons I upgraded my T480 to 64GB too (though I've been at 40+ used quite a few times so it's useful anyway)

>>103984372
the new ones have shit trackpoints that I don't use them anymore

>>103988067
Did they really change that much in the last decade? T440 was garbage with soft touch buttons for trackpoint but at least that was resolved in one gen.

Should I get a T480 or a T480s to replace my X230?
I like how the T480s is slimmer but the one sodimm slot and soldered ram is gay.

>>103988119
I was referring to the T14 Gen 3. The trackpoint is really far compared to the X60 i used before. Ended up just using the touchpad. the entire thing is too flat and it hard to position for me at least.

is the t490 20dollars more worth of performance than the t480?

>>103990973
no, 8th-11th gen have basically no difference aside from power efficiency, if you want more performance look into AMD or 12th gen Intel stuff

>>103984227
T14s Gen 3, 4 and 5 have OLED options, the IPS options are all low-power and prone to ghosting

How much would you pay for a T480 with a 4TB SSD, 40GB memory, i5 8350U? Comes with an aftermarket external battery.

>>103991363
€350-400 if it comes with warranty. 250-300 if it's just buying off some lad.

>>103984372
It's only the Aura edition r-right ?

>>103969609
reddit scared me into getting cheaper L380 over T480 because of some bios bug that fries usb-c port.

>>103992422
>bios bug
there's an easy solution, guess what it is

>>103992990
>guess what it is
Hot air station and flash programmer?

$70 t420 with ssd or $170 t480 16gb ram

What's the best way to find old laptops for relatively cheap, not just thinkpads? I'm in the UK and everything seems to be more expensive and harder to find here.

>>103993029
why do you need hot air station?
>>103993086
>$70 t420
overpriced, I got w520 for approx. that money

>>103984342
Was gonna suggest pliers as well.

>>103993152
do you have any commonly-used marketplates like facebook?
in latvia it's one of the only two places people use
before dec/jan prices were very good here, now went up
I think it's seasonal here, maybe just wait a few months

>>103971960
>bezos strikes again goyim you vill buy ze overpriced
what is an appropriate price? cause from where I'm standing it seems like a good deal to pay 1/4th the price for a laptop that will do everything I need.
but it doesn't matter, I found a better one for cheaper

>>103991553
Hmm, the guy is asking 300€ for it

>>103994449
not too bad. I wonder why 40GB tho, does it have 8+32 inside?

I already have a T420 for school running Linux Mint that is serving me well. But I'm going to need a secondary laptop for one of my classes that uses lockdown browser. In addition, I'll need a laptop for work that can run Windows 11 for when I start working full time. Any suggestions? I want something that can have more than three programs open at a time.

>>103995469
Just get a t480 and dual-boot. If you want CPU upgradability then go with the t440p and do the same.

>>103985505
I was just looking at a model like this on Craig's List.
Hope it's a dust problem because I'm tempted to buy it.

>>103993877
100 bucks, maybe 150-180 if in really good condition or if it has the 1440p display and/or a MX150 model.
anything over that is stupid and simply not gonna be worth the price considering the upgrades you'll have to put up with, always check on marketplace and your local ewaste places.

i love being able to easily add more RAM, swap disk, keyboard, monitor

so comfy bros

>>103995624
>>103995624
>upgradability
>to the same level as the best T480
>at 3 times the wattage
>also it will cook the skin off your thighs
>cooling fan breaks free and sends itself into orbit
just buy the T480 at that point and save yourself the trouble if processor capability is your sole metric

Do any of you people do any research into the advice you give?

>>103997138
Same. Gonna add wifi 6 and usb 3 to my x220 next.

>>103997197
I'm using a t440p right now. It's corebooted and the temp and fan speeds are relatively low. Not sure what kind of bloatware you're using but it works fine on my machine :^)

>>103997431
>but I did have breakfast today
ok

Does anyone know the name of this black thing inside of the trackpoint cap? Mine has worn away to nothing over the years, to the point where with everyday use, the clit keeps popping off half the time I lift my finger off of it. I've tried to ignore it for months, but today was the first time it fell off and I couldn't immediately find it, since I was late to noticing it had even fallen off. I tried using a replacement cap I had, but I could barely move the mouse, which was when I realized that the black plastic (?) inside the cap is absolutely necessary. I can't keep using my thinkpad like this. I only managed to find this photo if it by googling "lenovo thinkpad rubber inside of trackpoint" and finding this reddit thread about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/jb1ngr/trackpoint_nub_structure_broke_off/

Replacing "rubber" with "plastic" shows more results, but seemingly no solution. The worst part is that the piece in question on my W530 is smaller than the one in my W510, so the W530 one cannot fit in my W510, but I assume the other way around would be a loose fit. Before anyone suggests replacing the W530 keyboard, that mod would be nice, but that doesn't actually solve seeming unavailability of this part. Do I have any chance at just replacing it? I could maybe try asking sellers selling caps if it will include the black plastic inside, but does it even have an official name to search for it directly?

>>104000049
i just realize i could glue it as a cope. I saw some comments in reddit threads suggest gluing it, but they also suggested that it was glued on on the first place, and that it wasn't meant to come off with the cap. I thought they were merely mistaken. I guess if no one replies with a way to replace it (or even find replacements of it for any given thinkpad, or at least the W530), I will just glue this low integrity one to the keyboard overnight and hope it stays.

>>104000049
You got a nmb keyboard, the nmb ones have the black under the trackpoint. You can try to glue it, also clean your keyboard.

>>104000862
I think I see what you mean about "nmb keyboard" being a keyword. Thank you! It might not be particularly useful, in the end, since the vocabulary might not be known to most, but it's better I know it than not.

I've tried cleaning around the mouse area since the trackpoint first started popping out, but it doesn't help. I did clean most if not all the keyboard keys as well since this started happening, but for two of my keyboard keys, the plastic things under the key cap came off with it. It was extremely hard to get back on to return the key to a state where it bounced back after pressing it, and I know I horribly bent the plastic for at least one such key in the process of having to retry it over and over. It was not worth it. I am now afraid to clean the keys, and didn't even take note of which two keys were the problem keys. To be fair, I had forgotten, but only just remembered that I'd only bothered since two keys couldn't consistently register a key press, so they were particularly dirty. I shouldn't need to clean the keyboard anymore for at least a while.