/hsg/ - Home Server General
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:10:42 | 318 comments | 63 images | 🔒 Locked
Linux edition
previous >>103821779
READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.
>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.
>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.
>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.labgopher.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration
Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
previous >>103821779
READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.
>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.
>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.
>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhost
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.labgopher.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wi
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration
Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:37:00 No.103897533
How difficult is it to migrate a TrueNAS install to a new system? Like I want to keep all the settings/applications/ACLs in place and just move the data drives over to the new chassis
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:45:48 No.103897626
>>103897533
dunno, acls will be the worst. try rsync with --acls and see if they copy,
if not that then robocopy can probably do it too
dunno, acls will be the worst. try rsync with --acls and see if they copy,
if not that then robocopy can probably do it too
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)20:33:59 No.103898087
>>103897533
just dd the truenas drive onto the other drive
just dd the truenas drive onto the other drive
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)20:43:03 No.103898187
>>103897264
What are the ideal services to host on a server lodged up my ass?
What are the ideal services to host on a server lodged up my ass?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)21:08:19 No.103898468
>>103897533
I think you can export your settings and import your pools to the new system. Don’t know how much it fucks up though.
I think you can export your settings and import your pools to the new system. Don’t know how much it fucks up though.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)22:04:01 No.103898941
nothing better than putting your loonix and /hsg/ skills to annoy annoying people
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)22:20:21 No.103899088
>>103898187
Discord server
Discord server
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)22:57:43 No.103899408
>>103897264
I love that you guys are still using my copypasta for these. Based OP keeping the dream alive
I love that you guys are still using my copypasta for these. Based OP keeping the dream alive
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)22:57:48 No.103899411
>>103897533
new system but same dataset disks?
export settings, then re-import to new system. All settings and configs are in a single freenas-v1.db in /data
new system but same dataset disks?
export settings, then re-import to new system. All settings and configs are in a single freenas-v1.db in /data
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)23:40:23 No.103899807
For those of you doing smart home stuff with HomeAssistant, question for you -- do you prefer zigbee or zwave or something else? Looking into getting started on smart home stuff, starting with smart blinds because that actually stands to save money by using blackout blinds and automatically closing them when I'm not home or in a room, plus I need to buy blinds anyways because my new home doesn't have any.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)00:49:58 No.103900262
I've just started getting into hsg stuff. My current hardware setup is a Raspberry Pi 4 with a 4 TB SSD. I'm hosting Jellyfin, qBittorrent, next cloud, docker and portainer on it.
What are some other good applications to host that won't eat up too many more resources? I'm worried that I'm already pushing the Pi to its limits.
What are some other good applications to host that won't eat up too many more resources? I'm worried that I'm already pushing the Pi to its limits.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)02:39:40 No.103900924
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)02:47:26 No.103900977
I fell for the opnsense on a HP T740 meme
>fan idle speed not affected by bios settings
>10gb NIC idling at 95°
>can't find any options to ramp up the fan, only speeds up when core hits 50°
>needs tunable options to load fw for the nic
>wifi can't act as an ap
should I just nuke this and virtualize the firewall with proxmox or am I fucked?
>fan idle speed not affected by bios settings
>10gb NIC idling at 95°
>can't find any options to ramp up the fan, only speeds up when core hits 50°
>needs tunable options to load fw for the nic
>wifi can't act as an ap
should I just nuke this and virtualize the firewall with proxmox or am I fucked?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)03:59:13 No.103901429
Possibly for sqt - What is the best way to host a simple browser on docker, so I can browse 4chan from my work machine while in HO? Currently need to have my main PC powered on all the time and I RDP in it, while my homeserver is running all the time. Think I will try https://github.com/m1k1o/neko
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:03:31 No.103901447
>>103901429
ofc had to ask to get a better idea - i run proxmox and could spin up a lightweight desktop distro for fooling around, just not sure how well I can expose/use it via browser.
ofc had to ask to get a better idea - i run proxmox and could spin up a lightweight desktop distro for fooling around, just not sure how well I can expose/use it via browser.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:12:40 No.103901495
I remember watching a video on youtube about setting you're own nas.
The guy recommended some OS that by default
>detect if the OS is being installed on flash storage and apply some tweaks to minimize the writes
>Detect if there are two similar flash storage and promote you to use them in RAID1
I recall the guy was someone old, and there was a woman in the video.
At least, I want to know the OS.
The guy recommended some OS that by default
>detect if the OS is being installed on flash storage and apply some tweaks to minimize the writes
>Detect if there are two similar flash storage and promote you to use them in RAID1
I recall the guy was someone old, and there was a woman in the video.
At least, I want to know the OS.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:15:18 No.103901512
>>103901495
OMV (OpenMediaVault) has some plugins for flash storage iirc, did you check it?
OMV (OpenMediaVault) has some plugins for flash storage iirc, did you check it?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:17:45 No.103901539
>>103901512
yeah, I though it was OMV because EC said that.
But it wasn't
And something else was, you could connect directly to PC and it would mount as storage device over Ethernet.
yeah, I though it was OMV because EC said that.
But it wasn't
And something else was, you could connect directly to PC and it would mount as storage device over Ethernet.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:24:55 No.103901591
>>103900977
just virtualize it, it should be fine
just virtualize it, it should be fine
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)04:54:47 No.103901785
I'm currently using a laptop without a screen as a home server but I've been thinking of somehow turning it into a NAS since I'm running out of space. What would be the least stupid way of achieving that?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)05:59:34 No.103902210
Got this yesterday. Just waiting for the motherboard to come then I can install all the parts. Using an 8024P in this one... Anyway I got this kind of unique part which is really cool, it's a 2 bay hot swap for NVMe drives:
https://www.startech.com/en-gb/hdd/2m2-removable-pcie?srsltid=AfmBOoqAo2QBtlqrqYukX6quZJ8qBhLKmz8u6BS3ajRbB3c23YRakjAH
Anyway I think I'll use the second bay to backup the entire OS. And make a few physical "snapshots" like that and store them in different locations. It's a bit indulgent but I figure if I'm on vacation and bork the entire system, it's easy to have someone come in and just say "so yeah just slide them out and swap them over".
IcyDock makes something similar but this has active cooling.
Speaking of active cooling, I also got one of those Highpoint Rocket 730A's, which is an HBA with active cooling also. Should be quite a power efficient system when all is said and done, even with some indulgent bits, I expect the fan wall fans won't need to ramp up much.
https://www.startech.com/en-gb/hdd/
Anyway I think I'll use the second bay to backup the entire OS. And make a few physical "snapshots" like that and store them in different locations. It's a bit indulgent but I figure if I'm on vacation and bork the entire system, it's easy to have someone come in and just say "so yeah just slide them out and swap them over".
IcyDock makes something similar but this has active cooling.
Speaking of active cooling, I also got one of those Highpoint Rocket 730A's, which is an HBA with active cooling also. Should be quite a power efficient system when all is said and done, even with some indulgent bits, I expect the fan wall fans won't need to ramp up much.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)06:16:46 No.103902320
Ideas on what to use a Raspi Zero W for except as a pihole?
I've got an accessory thing on it that provides it with ethernet and 4 USB ports
I've got an accessory thing on it that provides it with ethernet and 4 USB ports
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)09:17:10 No.103903668
>>103900924
>irc bot
Like The Lounge?
I can't really see the use for an always up irc client. Why would I want to be in a chat room if I'm not near my main host machine (in which case I'd just use hexchat locally)?
>irc bot
Like The Lounge?
I can't really see the use for an always up irc client. Why would I want to be in a chat room if I'm not near my main host machine (in which case I'd just use hexchat locally)?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)09:34:00 No.103903807
>>103900262
adding on to this anon >>103900924
Do up the other forms of media with comics (komga/ubooquity), ebooks (calibre-web), audiobooks (audiobook shelf). Document your homelab stuff with bookstack or dokuwiki, track projects with kanban (I use it for home improvement tasks and hsg stuff), and host your own password vault with bitwarden. Run pihole to keep the ads at bay. Then run heimdall or equivalent for a landing page for all your beautiful work (pic rel).
adding on to this anon >>103900924
Do up the other forms of media with comics (komga/ubooquity), ebooks (calibre-web), audiobooks (audiobook shelf). Document your homelab stuff with bookstack or dokuwiki, track projects with kanban (I use it for home improvement tasks and hsg stuff), and host your own password vault with bitwarden. Run pihole to keep the ads at bay. Then run heimdall or equivalent for a landing page for all your beautiful work (pic rel).
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)09:34:01 No.103903808
>>103902320
I use it as rubber ducky and SSH server
I use it as rubber ducky and SSH server
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)09:35:33 No.103903822
>>103901785
only option is to do the octopus thing with external drives. Monitor their temps with scrutiny or check your SMART values often and beware high temps with those plastic shell cases. If they're high, get some 5V usb fans to help out
only option is to do the octopus thing with external drives. Monitor their temps with scrutiny or check your SMART values often and beware high temps with those plastic shell cases. If they're high, get some 5V usb fans to help out
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:06:54 No.103904090
>>103903807
check out glance it's such a nicer landing page overall
check out glance it's such a nicer landing page overall
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:20:28 No.103904213
>Seagate Barracuda, IronWolf, Skyhawk
>WD Purple, Red, Blue
Cheapest one is Barracuda, which is $20 more than what it has been before. There's also refurbished drives on eBay (ST8000DM004).
Need 4 x 6-8 TB 5400 rpm drives for my NAS since I'm running out of space. Obviously I want to avoid getting SMR type drives too.
>WD Purple, Red, Blue
Cheapest one is Barracuda, which is $20 more than what it has been before. There's also refurbished drives on eBay (ST8000DM004).
Need 4 x 6-8 TB 5400 rpm drives for my NAS since I'm running out of space. Obviously I want to avoid getting SMR type drives too.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:25:01 No.103904253
>>103897264
So if you want more than 4 3.5HDD's your options are used server (which is old and expensive) or building one yourself (mobos with ecc ram are also expensive)?
So if you want more than 4 3.5HDD's your options are used server (which is old and expensive) or building one yourself (mobos with ecc ram are also expensive)?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:32:54 No.103904324
>>103904253
Until you buy ecc parts you can get a hba card and find on ebay some older huge pc case that has like 6x 5.25 drive bays and you can use them for another 6 drives using $2 adapters (aka a piece of metal)
Until you buy ecc parts you can get a hba card and find on ebay some older huge pc case that has like 6x 5.25 drive bays and you can use them for another 6 drives using $2 adapters (aka a piece of metal)
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:34:09 No.103904340
>>103902320
butt server
butt server
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:52:54 No.103904539
Lately I’ve seen a lot of torrents being front run by bad actors putting out .lnk type files and disguising them as others. I’ve got a big flag list in qbit to prevent these from downloading, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to auto delete them. Does anyone know if it’s possible to delete these within qbit automatically or should I write a script using the qbittorrent api?
>>103900262
Are you running all the *arrs?
>>103900262
Are you running all the *arrs?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:55:21 No.103904560
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:56:42 No.103904574
>>103904560
just use both then lmao
just use both then lmao
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:09:21 No.103904688
>>103898087
This is the answer. I dd all the time lol.
This is the answer. I dd all the time lol.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:10:47 No.103904705
Is there any recommendations on single drive NAS?
I can't find the old ordroid HC design.
I want something that's really small, and preferably can be powered by POE.
it's for single use, home user.
I can't find the old ordroid HC design.
I want something that's really small, and preferably can be powered by POE.
it's for single use, home user.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:24:48 No.103904861
does shit like Kanidm, Authelia and Authentik basically let me use my server as Google oauth login without actually needing Google?
do the user's credentials (email and password in my case) get stored locally on my server?
do the user's credentials (email and password in my case) get stored locally on my server?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:31:29 No.103904927
Anyone use arch as server OS?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:35:45 No.103904967
>>103904539
>Are you running all the *arrs?
Negative, although that's only because I'm just starting out. I'm also working on joining private trackers (in queue for a RED interview currently) so I'd like to hold off on gathering too much media prior to that.
>Are you running all the *arrs?
Negative, although that's only because I'm just starting out. I'm also working on joining private trackers (in queue for a RED interview currently) so I'd like to hold off on gathering too much media prior to that.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:41:36 No.103905041
>>103904927
I have Gentoo on my router
yeah the common advice is to use a slow distro like Debian but there's a case to be made for just using whatever distro you like, are comfortable with, and already run.
I have Gentoo on my router
yeah the common advice is to use a slow distro like Debian but there's a case to be made for just using whatever distro you like, are comfortable with, and already run.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:43:40 No.103905069
>>103897264
Can I use this as a router/Minecraft server (via proxmox)? Mainly asking because I see it's way more powerful than a n100, but have no idea what NIC does it have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPJXPmB
Thanks
Can I use this as a router/Minecraft server (via proxmox)? Mainly asking because I see it's way more powerful than a n100, but have no idea what NIC does it have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPJXPmB
Thanks
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:46:15 No.103905105
>>103905041
Yeah, I'm not running fancy graphical UI.
I just using SSH to get downloading and what not, and use SSHFS.
the xz backdoor scared me, I mean if you can't trust ssh, what can you trust?
Yeah, I'm not running fancy graphical UI.
I just using SSH to get downloading and what not, and use SSHFS.
the xz backdoor scared me, I mean if you can't trust ssh, what can you trust?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:49:55 No.103905148
>>103905069
Is this price right?
Is this price right?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:31:56 No.103905643
>>103905148
Well for me here in Peru the cheapest option is the bare ones Ryzen 5 4500u ($127 plus $15 shipping). Considering the rest of the options (n100/n150/n97) this thing blows them off the water, but I'm unsure of the NIC, so I'm asking if this can be used as a pfsense machine
Well for me here in Peru the cheapest option is the bare ones Ryzen 5 4500u ($127 plus $15 shipping). Considering the rest of the options (n100/n150/n97) this thing blows them off the water, but I'm unsure of the NIC, so I'm asking if this can be used as a pfsense machine
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:45:28 No.103905828
>>103903807
>Then run heimdall
what's the lowest-resource-requirement container/service manager? something terminal based would be fine, i just haven't needed something like this before, idk what's out there.
>Then run heimdall
what's the lowest-resource-requirement container/service manager? something terminal based would be fine, i just haven't needed something like this before, idk what's out there.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:48:49 No.103905868
>>103905828
Heimdall, Dashy, Homepage, etc are all just dashboards to visualize services and maybe some additional things like bookmarks, system stats. Like I said before, just use homepage.
Container manager would be something like Portainer.
Heimdall, Dashy, Homepage, etc are all just dashboards to visualize services and maybe some additional things like bookmarks, system stats. Like I said before, just use homepage.
Container manager would be something like Portainer.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:52:35 No.103905920
Truenas with immich and nginx-proxy-manager is install. Yay. Truenas Scale is so much easier to setup. What should I be wary of with Truenas, zfs and stuff?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:55:51 No.103905978
>>103904705
POE is a bit much. How will you account for bit rot without zfs? Anyways. If you want a single PC, get the mini pc (tinyMiiniMicro) like lenovo m720 and stuff. Its pretty compact.
POE is a bit much. How will you account for bit rot without zfs? Anyways. If you want a single PC, get the mini pc (tinyMiiniMicro) like lenovo m720 and stuff. Its pretty compact.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:56:27 No.103905989
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:57:29 No.103906013
>>103905989
Lol no, unless you want to store images and vids in git.
Lol no, unless you want to store images and vids in git.
thanks anon 01/15/25(Wed)13:09:26 No.103906174
>>103905868
thanks anon
thanks anon
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)13:15:31 No.103906264
>>103905989
Using gitea to backup docker configs and stuff like that, so I'd say yes?
Using gitea to backup docker configs and stuff like that, so I'd say yes?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)13:58:45 No.103906824
tl;dr Should I go for Jellyfin or something similar, or stick with Plex?
I've got a 1U LackRack that I've had for about 6 years now, nothing wrong with it other than the fans being pretty noisy and annoying as it's in my office. I mostly run Plex off it and some file backups for photography if I need to access them.
>Intel Xeon E5-2650 V2 2.60Ghz
>16GB 1866Mhz Ram
>Windows 10 on a SSD and 3x8TB HDD (not in RAID but data is backed up).
Recently bought a TerraMaster F4-423 (£400) and 4x12TB HDDs (WD Red Plus WD120EFBX) (£1,000 total) and I'm looking to use it to replace my Plex server. I don't have anything better than 1080p so transcoding won't be an issue and I'll set up TrueNAS/FreeNAS and looking at what the RAID equivalent is.
Issue is, I'm wondering whether I stick with Plex or switch to something FOSS like Jellyfin. I've had no issues with Plex and I bought a PlexPass about 4 years ago when it was on sale, but I just don't like the company. The CTO is a prick in the forums, don't like that you need to be online to authenticate (I know you can change this) and I think in the next coming years they might be clamping down on people self-hosting. From what I've read, Jellyfin can be a pain to set up for remote access. Me and my GF are the only users of the Plex server and we both access it remotely a lot. Is it worth switching to Jellyfin?
Only thing stopping me is that I have a lot of music playlists on Plex that I don't know how to export. About 30 each with about 500-1,000 songs and I've got about 2,000 albums. Would appreciate any advice.
I've got a 1U LackRack that I've had for about 6 years now, nothing wrong with it other than the fans being pretty noisy and annoying as it's in my office. I mostly run Plex off it and some file backups for photography if I need to access them.
>Intel Xeon E5-2650 V2 2.60Ghz
>16GB 1866Mhz Ram
>Windows 10 on a SSD and 3x8TB HDD (not in RAID but data is backed up).
Recently bought a TerraMaster F4-423 (£400) and 4x12TB HDDs (WD Red Plus WD120EFBX) (£1,000 total) and I'm looking to use it to replace my Plex server. I don't have anything better than 1080p so transcoding won't be an issue and I'll set up TrueNAS/FreeNAS and looking at what the RAID equivalent is.
Issue is, I'm wondering whether I stick with Plex or switch to something FOSS like Jellyfin. I've had no issues with Plex and I bought a PlexPass about 4 years ago when it was on sale, but I just don't like the company. The CTO is a prick in the forums, don't like that you need to be online to authenticate (I know you can change this) and I think in the next coming years they might be clamping down on people self-hosting. From what I've read, Jellyfin can be a pain to set up for remote access. Me and my GF are the only users of the Plex server and we both access it remotely a lot. Is it worth switching to Jellyfin?
Only thing stopping me is that I have a lot of music playlists on Plex that I don't know how to export. About 30 each with about 500-1,000 songs and I've got about 2,000 albums. Would appreciate any advice.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:00:58 No.103906855
>>103898187
Web server full of hardcore gay pornography.
Web server full of hardcore gay pornography.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:03:06 No.103906878
>>103902320
I use them to monitor temperatures, humidity and smoke/fire in my rack.
I use them to monitor temperatures, humidity and smoke/fire in my rack.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:07:13 No.103906929
>>103904253
Why not just get a card with more ports? (I have seen consumer boards with 6 sata ports though).
Why not just get a card with more ports? (I have seen consumer boards with 6 sata ports though).
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:10:31 No.103906965
>>103906929
Chances are if he has a 4 port SATA consumer board he doesn't have a free PCIe slot at all.
Chances are if he has a 4 port SATA consumer board he doesn't have a free PCIe slot at all.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:12:42 No.103906998
>>103905978
>POE is a bit much
Well, I want to minimize my cables, and my router have PoE so.
>How will you account for bit rot without zfs
I don't need bit rot protection, I'm just using it as share storage between phone/pc/tablet
>m720q tiny
I was eyeing these, but it way too expensive for what I want to spend.
>POE is a bit much
Well, I want to minimize my cables, and my router have PoE so.
>How will you account for bit rot without zfs
I don't need bit rot protection, I'm just using it as share storage between phone/pc/tablet
>m720q tiny
I was eyeing these, but it way too expensive for what I want to spend.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:12:56 No.103907001
>>103906965
My regular pc has 3 pcie slots and only 4 sata ports. There's also the m.2 adapters you could use too.
My regular pc has 3 pcie slots and only 4 sata ports. There's also the m.2 adapters you could use too.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)14:55:51 No.103907540
I've started using cloudflare tunnels to access most of my services. Since its provide https do I need to host my services with SSL on or does it no longer matter since its encrypted over the tunnel anyway?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)15:08:30 No.103907680
>>103906824
>CTO is a prick in forums
Who cares you already paid them. Why are you in plex forums anyway?
>going to crack down on hosting
Because of the Hetzner stuff? That was just people blatantly breaking ToS and getting paid for it. If they end self hosting what are they gonna do, get the normies to switch to Plex from Netflix?
>lots of music
I don’t use it much but I hear people say better things about PlexAmp than Plex itself, so this would make me want to stay
>CTO is a prick in forums
Who cares you already paid them. Why are you in plex forums anyway?
>going to crack down on hosting
Because of the Hetzner stuff? That was just people blatantly breaking ToS and getting paid for it. If they end self hosting what are they gonna do, get the normies to switch to Plex from Netflix?
>lots of music
I don’t use it much but I hear people say better things about PlexAmp than Plex itself, so this would make me want to stay
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)16:08:55 No.103908481
>>103900262
How do you guys cool off the raspberry pi 4?
How do you guys cool off the raspberry pi 4?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)16:30:02 No.103908738
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)16:46:59 No.103908945
>>103908481
Leave it in my 60° basement
Leave it in my 60° basement
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)17:27:07 No.103909406
>>103907680
>Why are you in plex forums anyway?
Asking questions, it's the only way to get support. When I asked how I can export playlist he just commented "Why do you want to?".
>Because of the Hetzner stuff?
No, but it does make me worry slightly. I don't sell access and it's only two of us on the server, but I don't like the idea of being locked out of my media and having to rebuild everything quickly because they've changed their ToS or decided they don't want to allow people to self-host any more because the majority of their content is pirated. Who knows what might happen in the future. Better to be prepared.
>better things about PlexAmp
Only allows you to download 24 hours of music per playlist, you can't download your full playlist and the app is buggy. I use a FOSS app anyway for my phone, but the playlists on Plex are still my masterlists and I want to preserve them.
>Why are you in plex forums anyway?
Asking questions, it's the only way to get support. When I asked how I can export playlist he just commented "Why do you want to?".
>Because of the Hetzner stuff?
No, but it does make me worry slightly. I don't sell access and it's only two of us on the server, but I don't like the idea of being locked out of my media and having to rebuild everything quickly because they've changed their ToS or decided they don't want to allow people to self-host any more because the majority of their content is pirated. Who knows what might happen in the future. Better to be prepared.
>better things about PlexAmp
Only allows you to download 24 hours of music per playlist, you can't download your full playlist and the app is buggy. I use a FOSS app anyway for my phone, but the playlists on Plex are still my masterlists and I want to preserve them.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:00:58 No.103909731
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:04:06 No.103909754
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:15:16 No.103909902
got some SDM845 phones for pennies (one shattered, second one flooded).
This over 6 years old Qualcomm chip has similar performance to Raspberry Pi 5 and a great mainline Linux support.
One downside is lacking networking IO (best bet is USB2.0 as Ethernet device, ~350Mbps or so, some SDM645 phones have USB3.0 so you could get >1Gbps).
I did some quick benchmark, and xmrig on Termux Android gets ~460 H/s, while on mainline Linux without Android gets ~700 H/s, i found that interesting.
Maybe i'll make some homelab cluster with them, i don't know, i mainly bought them for spare parts, didn't expect for everything but the screen to still be working.
This over 6 years old Qualcomm chip has similar performance to Raspberry Pi 5 and a great mainline Linux support.
One downside is lacking networking IO (best bet is USB2.0 as Ethernet device, ~350Mbps or so, some SDM645 phones have USB3.0 so you could get >1Gbps).
I did some quick benchmark, and xmrig on Termux Android gets ~460 H/s, while on mainline Linux without Android gets ~700 H/s, i found that interesting.
Maybe i'll make some homelab cluster with them, i don't know, i mainly bought them for spare parts, didn't expect for everything but the screen to still be working.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:24:10 No.103910006
>>103901495
I remember that video, I think it was one of linus deleted videos.
I remember that video, I think it was one of linus deleted videos.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:27:18 No.103910023
Stupid question perhaps.
I'm using thunar to mount NFS share and play some media.
Sometimes, the connection go down, and as you expect, mpv and thunar freeze until I reboot the machine.
I know the cause mostly to be the nfs client, not timing out, how to fix this without using fstab mounting/ manual mounting?
I'm using thunar to mount NFS share and play some media.
Sometimes, the connection go down, and as you expect, mpv and thunar freeze until I reboot the machine.
I know the cause mostly to be the nfs client, not timing out, how to fix this without using fstab mounting/ manual mounting?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:30:36 No.103910049
>>103909754
I just ssh'd into the router, is it supposed to say something different?
I just ssh'd into the router, is it supposed to say something different?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:32:55 No.103910074
>>103910023
NFS has a mount option to disable the "retry forever" default behavior and instead fail with an I/O error. I have no idea if Thunar lets you set mount options without having the FS listed in fstab though.
NFS has a mount option to disable the "retry forever" default behavior and instead fail with an I/O error. I have no idea if Thunar lets you set mount options without having the FS listed in fstab though.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:48:30 No.103910210
>>103910074
better not to use NFS "soft" option, it can cause data corruption, i've had it randomly drop transfers mid-way before reaching any timeouts. No idea how NFS devs fucked that up.
If using "soft", at least mount it as read-only, i wouldn't trust it with any writes at all.
It's one of those less widely known NFS gimmicks (another one being no checksumming at all without Kerberos, a bit flip on nic/switch/router could corrupt your file).
I have to get back to writing my own network filesystem, i've grown tired with NFS caveats like that.
better not to use NFS "soft" option, it can cause data corruption, i've had it randomly drop transfers mid-way before reaching any timeouts. No idea how NFS devs fucked that up.
If using "soft", at least mount it as read-only, i wouldn't trust it with any writes at all.
It's one of those less widely known NFS gimmicks (another one being no checksumming at all without Kerberos, a bit flip on nic/switch/router could corrupt your file).
I have to get back to writing my own network filesystem, i've grown tired with NFS caveats like that.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:55:35 No.103910274
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:13:06 No.103910428
>>103910274
what's good way to set up nfs then?
frankly i feel there really isn't for this use case (if you expect for dropped connection to unmount the filesystem and drop all open files, unfreezing the programs that opened them).
Do note that mpv and thunar SHOULD unfreeze if you just connect back to NFS. No further action should be needed as NFS will indefinitely try to remount the filesystem. So for example, if you plug out the Ethernet cable, then plug it back in even hours later, after a minute or two NFS will reconnect and programs should unfreeze.
Important: client IP address needs to stay the same between reconnects, i don't think NFS can handle client IP changes. So if you switch from Ethernet to WiFi, this will most likely result with frozen NFS (unless you setup a network bond between Ethernet and WiFi to act as one interface). And as expected either reboot is needed or connecting through Ethernet again only so you can unmount NFS and mount it later over WiFi.
I'm not a big fan of sshfs, but if you want a dropped connection to just drop the mount and all the files, then it handles things better, you can set "reconnect", ServerAliveInterval and ServerAliveCountMax and it will drop after this timeout, and not earlier. I've found it reliable unlike NFS "soft" option.
what's good way to set up nfs then?
frankly i feel there really isn't for this use case (if you expect for dropped connection to unmount the filesystem and drop all open files, unfreezing the programs that opened them).
Do note that mpv and thunar SHOULD unfreeze if you just connect back to NFS. No further action should be needed as NFS will indefinitely try to remount the filesystem. So for example, if you plug out the Ethernet cable, then plug it back in even hours later, after a minute or two NFS will reconnect and programs should unfreeze.
Important: client IP address needs to stay the same between reconnects, i don't think NFS can handle client IP changes. So if you switch from Ethernet to WiFi, this will most likely result with frozen NFS (unless you setup a network bond between Ethernet and WiFi to act as one interface). And as expected either reboot is needed or connecting through Ethernet again only so you can unmount NFS and mount it later over WiFi.
I'm not a big fan of sshfs, but if you want a dropped connection to just drop the mount and all the files, then it handles things better, you can set "reconnect", ServerAliveInterval and ServerAliveCountMax and it will drop after this timeout, and not earlier. I've found it reliable unlike NFS "soft" option.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:16:11 No.103910464
>>103906824
Can't help with the music but Emby has worked great with nginx in front of it for my friend to access, or me if out the house.
I imagine JF can do the same as Emby with regards to being able to run publicly without a reverse proxy though.
It's super fast to try either out in docker.
Can't help with the music but Emby has worked great with nginx in front of it for my friend to access, or me if out the house.
I imagine JF can do the same as Emby with regards to being able to run publicly without a reverse proxy though.
It's super fast to try either out in docker.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:21:09 No.103910520
>>103907540
If you're going to use the proxy at least do it with self signed certs but preferably full-strict. Why would you want plaintext going over the internet?
If you're going to use the proxy at least do it with self signed certs but preferably full-strict. Why would you want plaintext going over the internet?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:21:59 No.103910535
>>103910274
>Also there are two now?
yeah, there's both NFSv3 and NFSv4.
Don't just assume higher number is better though, NFSv3 is older, but simpler, more stateless, and i'd say more battle-tested and reliable than NFSv4. NFSv3 lacks some features NFSv4 has, but if you don't need Kerberos and ID mapping fuckery, then NFSv3 is safer bet in my opinion.
I've never had problems with NFSv3, while with NFSv4 i've experienced some hard to debug issues between TrueNAS Core (FreeBSD) server and Linux clients.
Also, i've realized that TrueNAS Core still uses NFSv3 by default, enabling NFSv4 requires ticking a checkbox in GUI, maybe the devs also believe that NFSv3 is a safer option.
>Also there are two now?
yeah, there's both NFSv3 and NFSv4.
Don't just assume higher number is better though, NFSv3 is older, but simpler, more stateless, and i'd say more battle-tested and reliable than NFSv4. NFSv3 lacks some features NFSv4 has, but if you don't need Kerberos and ID mapping fuckery, then NFSv3 is safer bet in my opinion.
I've never had problems with NFSv3, while with NFSv4 i've experienced some hard to debug issues between TrueNAS Core (FreeBSD) server and Linux clients.
Also, i've realized that TrueNAS Core still uses NFSv3 by default, enabling NFSv4 requires ticking a checkbox in GUI, maybe the devs also believe that NFSv3 is a safer option.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:22:52 No.103910543
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)19:54:37 No.103910918
>>103910543
in case of NFS hanging you could try unmounting it with "umount --force --lazy <mountpoint>", this should unmount even an unreachable NFS server and issue an error code to all pending file operations, unfreezing the programs.
I've just tried it and it seems to work, with a caveat that NFS file operations return ERESTARTSYS (error code 512), which is a kernel-only error code that should not leak to userspace... well, another NFS quirk for you.
in case of NFS hanging you could try unmounting it with "umount --force --lazy <mountpoint>", this should unmount even an unreachable NFS server and issue an error code to all pending file operations, unfreezing the programs.
I've just tried it and it seems to work, with a caveat that NFS file operations return ERESTARTSYS (error code 512), which is a kernel-only error code that should not leak to userspace... well, another NFS quirk for you.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:29:59 No.103911306
>>103910543
It is slow but still more than fast enough for media streaming over a LAN. It's the "just werks" option.
It is slow but still more than fast enough for media streaming over a LAN. It's the "just werks" option.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:59:03 No.103911624
>>103906998
There are older and cheaper ones, also, checkout products from dell and hp, they might be cheaper depending on where you live.
There are older and cheaper ones, also, checkout products from dell and hp, they might be cheaper depending on where you live.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)21:18:12 No.103911815
>>103909902
How do you rig the power line and bypass the jewish "genuine battery requirement" ?
How do you rig the power line and bypass the jewish "genuine battery requirement" ?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)21:51:20 No.103912118
>>103910274
You setup NFS by fstab mounting or manual mounting. It is a kernel-based FS like any other and you should treat it as such
You setup NFS by fstab mounting or manual mounting. It is a kernel-based FS like any other and you should treat it as such
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)23:12:49 No.103912867
>>103899408
Nice rack bro
Nice rack bro
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)23:20:47 No.103912935
>>103897264
Is using a private Telegram bot as a communication tool for a home server a bad idea? I was interested in combining an LLM with function-calling so I can get updates on various tasks I have running
Is using a private Telegram bot as a communication tool for a home server a bad idea? I was interested in combining an LLM with function-calling so I can get updates on various tasks I have running
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)00:03:59 No.103913326
>>103912935
People use email, i've used email and teams. Nothing wrong with telegram either.
People use email, i've used email and teams. Nothing wrong with telegram either.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)02:24:51 No.103914300
>>103912935
That's why i mentioned irc bot here >>103900924 but people want spoonfed the entire idea from top to bottom
That's why i mentioned irc bot here >>103900924 but people want spoonfed the entire idea from top to bottom
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)03:31:24 No.103914667
>>103897264
ufw feels like it glows (pic rel)
after learning iptables today, i dont know why anyone would use ufw
iptables is awesome
ufw feels like it glows (pic rel)
after learning iptables today, i dont know why anyone would use ufw
iptables is awesome
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)03:58:59 No.103914824
Its always networking issues isn't it? Why do I face so much trouble with networking? Why am I so stupid?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)04:46:24 No.103915108
The other day I transferred a whole lot of media files to my Samba server (running debian, connected to my router via ethernet) from my main desktop (Windows 10, wifi) with a speed of about 100MB/s. Went to transfer a few more files to it today, and for some reason the speed is down to 10MB/s.
What are some basic checks I can do to figure out why this is happening? When it comes to networking I know next to nothing.
What are some basic checks I can do to figure out why this is happening? When it comes to networking I know next to nothing.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)04:59:16 No.103915173
>>103915108
Sounds like the connection fell back from 1Gb to 100Mb. Physical connection quality could be the issue.
Sounds like the connection fell back from 1Gb to 100Mb. Physical connection quality could be the issue.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:02:21 No.103915194
>>103915173
You might be right, I tried again just now and it's back up to about 75-80 MB/s.
I'll just have to keep an eye on it, if it does it again I have a really long ethernet cord I could try instead of using the wifi connection.
You might be right, I tried again just now and it's back up to about 75-80 MB/s.
I'll just have to keep an eye on it, if it does it again I have a really long ethernet cord I could try instead of using the wifi connection.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:02:58 No.103915203
>>103915194
Oh it's fucking wifi? Kek of course it's the connection
Oh it's fucking wifi? Kek of course it's the connection
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:05:15 No.103915218
>>103915203
Yeah the server is the only thing with direct ethernet to my router at the moment. Now that it's working I'm going to run ethernet jacks to some of the rooms in my house that I want on my network, but for now it's either wifi or a tripping hazard cable.
Yeah the server is the only thing with direct ethernet to my router at the moment. Now that it's working I'm going to run ethernet jacks to some of the rooms in my house that I want on my network, but for now it's either wifi or a tripping hazard cable.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:35:39 No.103915420
>>103915194
>I have a really long ethernet cord
You can also consider powerline adapters. I used to have everything connected with wifi, until the point it was barely usable because of too many devices and interference. Not to consider all the neighbors and neighboring devices.
Network speed was hell.
Once I switched everything to cables, routers, switch, and powerline to connect together multiple routers, it was all another life. Also a good chance to upgrade some old cables with brand new ones helped. A small investment that yelded great results.
>I have a really long ethernet cord
You can also consider powerline adapters. I used to have everything connected with wifi, until the point it was barely usable because of too many devices and interference. Not to consider all the neighbors and neighboring devices.
Network speed was hell.
Once I switched everything to cables, routers, switch, and powerline to connect together multiple routers, it was all another life. Also a good chance to upgrade some old cables with brand new ones helped. A small investment that yelded great results.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:57:26 No.103915559
>>103910918
I tried that, didn't work,
Because I used Thunar to mount it.
I guess it used gvfs/fuse to do so.
Even so, it mount it in the gvfs default, I tried umount it and didn't work, the command froze instead.
>>103911306
>fast enough
Not for 4K
>>103911624
All seem to be in similar price range for the 8th gen CPU.
Also no PoE.
I tried that, didn't work,
Because I used Thunar to mount it.
I guess it used gvfs/fuse to do so.
Even so, it mount it in the gvfs default, I tried umount it and didn't work, the command froze instead.
>>103911306
>fast enough
Not for 4K
>>103911624
All seem to be in similar price range for the 8th gen CPU.
Also no PoE.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)06:00:35 No.103915580
>>103915559
i have no idea what thunar is doing under the hood, try mounting it through fstab instead
i have no idea what thunar is doing under the hood, try mounting it through fstab instead
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)06:23:46 No.103915718
>>103914667
Time to learn nftables.
Time to learn nftables.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)06:26:27 No.103915734
>>103915559
>Also no PoE
I don't know of any poe computers, not even a raspberry pi can be powered with poe. How do you plan to power your ssds/hdds or m.2 ssds?
>Also no PoE
I don't know of any poe computers, not even a raspberry pi can be powered with poe. How do you plan to power your ssds/hdds or m.2 ssds?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)06:41:39 No.103915847
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)07:06:25 No.103916050
do you guys know anything about these drives?
They're cheap as fuck and my data isn't really that important.
https://a.co/d/5umrObP
They're cheap as fuck and my data isn't really that important.
https://a.co/d/5umrObP
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)07:41:58 No.103916374
>>103916050
Run it in raid z1 atleast anon, otherwise there is no point in buying these drives.
Run it in raid z1 atleast anon, otherwise there is no point in buying these drives.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)07:47:55 No.103916427
>>103916050
Cheap as far as total price for A drive. Very expensive in dollar per terabyte. I shoot for $15-20 per TB when buying. Black Friday prices are low as $14/TB (more than double the storage per dollar as you're getting there).
Cheap as far as total price for A drive. Very expensive in dollar per terabyte. I shoot for $15-20 per TB when buying. Black Friday prices are low as $14/TB (more than double the storage per dollar as you're getting there).
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)08:04:01 No.103916562
>>103915734
>not even a raspberry pi can be powered with poe
What are you on about?
>>103915847
Over WiFi?
>not even a raspberry pi can be powered with poe
What are you on about?
>>103915847
Over WiFi?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)08:41:23 No.103916920
Decided to try and run a private full monero node on my NAS.
It's behind a VPN, hence the p2p port bind (NAT-PMP). Am I doing it right? Seems to be syncing slow despite just being a little over a hundred blocks behind. Does a private node still help the network?
monerod --rpc-restricted-bind-ip 192.168.10.10 --rpc-restricted-bind-port [redacted] --p2p-bind-port 60081 --no-igd --no-zmq --enable-dns-blocklist --confirm-external-bind
It's behind a VPN, hence the p2p port bind (NAT-PMP). Am I doing it right? Seems to be syncing slow despite just being a little over a hundred blocks behind. Does a private node still help the network?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:15:00 No.103917213
Steer clear of N100 and other mini PC systems. They're a terrible value, completely outside of being hugely less performant. They have no upgrade potential, huge drawbacks on the chipset itself and just bring no positive benefits to the game.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:16:12 No.103917223
>>103916920
you can run
to see the current p2p connections. Don't know if you'll get any incoming connections while it's still syncing up but that should prove your port forwarding is working and others can connect to your node.
you can run
monerod print_cn
to see the current p2p connections. Don't know if you'll get any incoming connections while it's still syncing up but that should prove your port forwarding is working and others can connect to your node.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:19:38 No.103917254
I want to authenticate users to my web app by letting them sign in using their Google email, is something like authentik, authelia or kanidm overkill for this?
Is there a simple way to just let people use my service by signing in once with their google/facebook id and then giving them access?
Is there a simple way to just let people use my service by signing in once with their google/facebook id and then giving them access?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:33:12 No.103917389
>>103917254
You need an entire oauth/saml stack regardless. I think the only real way you'll get something lighter is by implementing a lot of it yourself with some oauth/saml/jwt packages in your backend.
You need an entire oauth/saml stack regardless. I think the only real way you'll get something lighter is by implementing a lot of it yourself with some oauth/saml/jwt packages in your backend.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:28:31 No.103917985
>>103917223
Looks good, assuming I even needed NAT-PMP. Over 200 GB freed from my laptop. Not sure if I can connect my mining rig (desktop computer) to it though due to the p2pool specific daemon flags.
Looks good, assuming I even needed NAT-PMP. Over 200 GB freed from my laptop. Not sure if I can connect my mining rig (desktop computer) to it though due to the p2pool specific daemon flags.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:29:12 No.103917993
>>103917389
I would use a ready-made solution if it made life easier, I just want to know if it's absolutely necessary.
I would use a ready-made solution if it made life easier, I just want to know if it's absolutely necessary.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:40:42 No.103918138
Is there any good 2.5" drives for nas? I wanna make a small home server with a raspberry pi using pic related but 3.5" take too much space
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:41:28 No.103918149
>>103918138
mx500
mx500
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:42:29 No.103918161
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:46:19 No.103918203
>>103918138
I miss the HC-1, with little tinkering you could get it to run over PoE
I miss the HC-1, with little tinkering you could get it to run over PoE
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:46:25 No.103918204
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:48:48 No.103918225
>>103918204
They are desu. I think 2.5" hdds might still be out there, don't you need to hard mount them?
They are desu. I think 2.5" hdds might still be out there, don't you need to hard mount them?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:51:59 No.103918259
>>103916427
for some reason refurb prices shot way up the past six months or so, you used to be able to find under $8/TB, now the cheapest ones on diskprices are about 10. irritating
for some reason refurb prices shot way up the past six months or so, you used to be able to find under $8/TB, now the cheapest ones on diskprices are about 10. irritating
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)10:53:23 No.103918268
>>103918225
there are a bunch still available but they're all smb which apparently sucks for this application. Although I don't think I'll be transfering data 24/7 so I'm not sure if it matters that much
there are a bunch still available but they're all smb which apparently sucks for this application. Although I don't think I'll be transfering data 24/7 so I'm not sure if it matters that much
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:17:30 No.103918534
Got my own house and want to go wire route.
Are there routers that run on PoE and routers that supply PoE?
Currently
>IPPVZ cam to NVR
>Old unifi switch
>old ISP router + Fiber optic to Ethernet adapter
>old laptop as file server running smb
Are there routers that run on PoE and routers that supply PoE?
Currently
>IPPVZ cam to NVR
>Old unifi switch
>old ISP router + Fiber optic to Ethernet adapter
>old laptop as file server running smb
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:23:25 No.103918594
>>103918534
Just buy a poe switch?
Just buy a poe switch?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:24:40 No.103918606
>>103918534
edgerouter x can run and supply 24V poe. there might be some caveats so look into it before jumping on it
edgerouter x can run and supply 24V poe. there might be some caveats so look into it before jumping on it
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:39:24 No.103918818
>>103918594
I want something neat.
I was thinking of replacing my laptop with something more .... rackable.
>PoE switch
well yeah. Any suggestions?
My idea for every room to have Ethernet socket that has PoE, and if the need WiFi, single router that run on PoE would be connected.
>>103918606
>edgerouter x
I think I'd need more ports than that
thanks though the 10x is what I need.
I want something neat.
I was thinking of replacing my laptop with something more .... rackable.
>PoE switch
well yeah. Any suggestions?
My idea for every room to have Ethernet socket that has PoE, and if the need WiFi, single router that run on PoE would be connected.
>>103918606
>edgerouter x
I think I'd need more ports than that
thanks though the 10x is what I need.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:52:54 No.103918989
>>103918818
Router IMO doesn't need lots of ports. That's why you buy switches. Just get one of those 48 or 24 port 2.5g (or more) switch, they come with rack mount ears. I don't know the models, just find out anon. As for something rackable, just a simple 1 or 2u server or just a tiny mini micro (mini pc). Not rackable, but just put it on your switch. You might be able to rack a couple of those if you 3d print your brackets.
Router IMO doesn't need lots of ports. That's why you buy switches. Just get one of those 48 or 24 port 2.5g (or more) switch, they come with rack mount ears. I don't know the models, just find out anon. As for something rackable, just a simple 1 or 2u server or just a tiny mini micro (mini pc). Not rackable, but just put it on your switch. You might be able to rack a couple of those if you 3d print your brackets.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:01:37 No.103919113
Brehs, this is the cheapest disk per tb in my country: https://www.tpstech.in/products/geonix-10-tb-6gb-s-7200rpm-sata-hard-drive-for-desktop?variant=49731303145775
But this is a brand I've never heard of, but the seller is reputable, buy or no? What are we thinking? 10tb dc ultrastar or ironwolf is twice the price of this. Same for toshiba. This one looks awfully close to wd red 10tb drive.
But this is a brand I've never heard of, but the seller is reputable, buy or no? What are we thinking? 10tb dc ultrastar or ironwolf is twice the price of this. Same for toshiba. This one looks awfully close to wd red 10tb drive.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:21:01 No.103919370
>>103918161
>"high-end SATA SSDs are the best SATA drives on the market, suitable for anything"
>cheap consumershit drives listed
are you kidding me, they fail to even mention actual higher-end SATA SSDs like PM883/PM893/SM883 etc., also U.2 drives are completely ansent, which are the actual high-end NVMe drives.
>"high-end SATA SSDs are the best SATA drives on the market, suitable for anything"
>cheap consumershit drives listed
are you kidding me, they fail to even mention actual higher-end SATA SSDs like PM883/PM893/SM883 etc., also U.2 drives are completely ansent, which are the actual high-end NVMe drives.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:21:35 No.103919381
Should record size generally be set to 1M (media, documents, vidya storage, etc.)?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:26:31 No.103919445
>>103919113
looks like a WD drive, most likely a used one and refurbished by this random ass brand.
looks like a WD drive, most likely a used one and refurbished by this random ass brand.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:26:33 No.103919449
I'm planning on making a "seedbox" nas. Is it really necessary to get nas rated drives for this or can I use those shitty cheap ones?
My internet is too shit to actually seed anything but my private trackers require me to have the shit online so the nas would be on 24/7.
It's mostly just movies and shit that I watch from time to time.
My internet is too shit to actually seed anything but my private trackers require me to have the shit online so the nas would be on 24/7.
It's mostly just movies and shit that I watch from time to time.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:26:36 No.103919450
>>103919370
>U.2
Where do you even buy those anon? Which motherboard supports that? In consumer line up?
>U.2
Where do you even buy those anon? Which motherboard supports that? In consumer line up?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:33:41 No.103919525
>>103919370
I bought four 7.68tb PM893 drives. I think tech is going to end up limited by just the sheet fact of physics. That meaning heat and power.
SATA SSDs seem to be the final power efficient drive. Nvme right out the gate is way higher wattage. So way higher heat, way higher fan speeds and noise. We basically have enough speed for a while. As consumers anyway. I'd rather have 20tb SATA SSDs at an actual home user possible pricepoint before u.2 u.3 u.infinity. And other power destruction stuff like the 5090 graphics cards should literally be the entire computer.
I bought four 7.68tb PM893 drives. I think tech is going to end up limited by just the sheet fact of physics. That meaning heat and power.
SATA SSDs seem to be the final power efficient drive. Nvme right out the gate is way higher wattage. So way higher heat, way higher fan speeds and noise. We basically have enough speed for a while. As consumers anyway. I'd rather have 20tb SATA SSDs at an actual home user possible pricepoint before u.2 u.3 u.infinity. And other power destruction stuff like the 5090 graphics cards should literally be the entire computer.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:34:35 No.103919540
>>103919450
>Where do you even buy those anon?
what do you mean, they are easily available in online PC parts dealers, at least in my country, if not, search for server-specific part dealers.
>Which motherboard supports that? In consumer line up?
U.2 is just PCIe in a different form factor, there are PCIe card adapters for that.
>Where do you even buy those anon?
what do you mean, they are easily available in online PC parts dealers, at least in my country, if not, search for server-specific part dealers.
>Which motherboard supports that? In consumer line up?
U.2 is just PCIe in a different form factor, there are PCIe card adapters for that.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:49:34 No.103919701
Using a 4-bay Synology NAS, which is the better option?
>stick with Synology's OS and go for RAID5
or
>TrueNAS with RAIDZ1
>stick with Synology's OS and go for RAID5
or
>TrueNAS with RAIDZ1
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:57:22 No.103919814
>>103919525
>I bought four 7.68tb PM893 drives.
based, are those for a NAS pool? I got burned by consumershit SSDs dying suddenly on me, that's when i started buying at least PM883 for boot drives, they are barely more expensive than their consumer drives anyway.
>As consumers anyway. I'd rather have 20tb SATA SSDs at an actual home user possible pricepoint before u.2 u.3 u.infinity.
agreed, NVMe is also problematic because of the sheer number of lanes needed for all the drives.
That means you'd probably need either an expensive chassis, or expensive PCIe switches.
Meanwhile a low-tier low-lane CPU with a single SAS HBA can handle tens if not hundreds of SATA drives daisy-chained over several JBODs.
I'll stick with 16/20TB HDDs for now, but wouldn't mind if SATA SSDs got to HDD sizes while being cheap enough.
>I bought four 7.68tb PM893 drives.
based, are those for a NAS pool? I got burned by consumershit SSDs dying suddenly on me, that's when i started buying at least PM883 for boot drives, they are barely more expensive than their consumer drives anyway.
>As consumers anyway. I'd rather have 20tb SATA SSDs at an actual home user possible pricepoint before u.2 u.3 u.infinity.
agreed, NVMe is also problematic because of the sheer number of lanes needed for all the drives.
That means you'd probably need either an expensive chassis, or expensive PCIe switches.
Meanwhile a low-tier low-lane CPU with a single SAS HBA can handle tens if not hundreds of SATA drives daisy-chained over several JBODs.
I'll stick with 16/20TB HDDs for now, but wouldn't mind if SATA SSDs got to HDD sizes while being cheap enough.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)13:37:01 No.103920429
>>103918534
An anon once suggested I get a refurbished Cisco WS-3850 cheap from eBay. Actually went for it, a 24P-L one (paid around $170 including shipping and import fees). Can't complain. Got some wires and PoE running in my own house, which is very cool. Good luck to you, anon.
An anon once suggested I get a refurbished Cisco WS-3850 cheap from eBay. Actually went for it, a 24P-L one (paid around $170 including shipping and import fees). Can't complain. Got some wires and PoE running in my own house, which is very cool. Good luck to you, anon.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)13:58:58 No.103920760
Is there a way to make SMB run only through Ethernet? Seemingly it's Ethernet and Wi-Fi.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)14:06:55 No.103920856
>>103920760
surely Samba's config file has some "listen on only these interfaces" option
surely Samba's config file has some "listen on only these interfaces" option
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)14:54:59 No.103921340
>>103897264
I currently having a ubuntu server with docker and a bunch of containers. I have been happy with it for the most part, but people keep saying that I should move to proxmox. I really don't want to redo anything so I was hoping I could just use an image my of my current server. My question is. For plex and other stuff, their doesn't seem to be an advange other then management. What is the overhead on Proxmox assuming keep doing everything else the same.
I currently having a ubuntu server with docker and a bunch of containers. I have been happy with it for the most part, but people keep saying that I should move to proxmox. I really don't want to redo anything so I was hoping I could just use an image my of my current server. My question is. For plex and other stuff, their doesn't seem to be an advange other then management. What is the overhead on Proxmox assuming keep doing everything else the same.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)15:07:25 No.103921455
>>103897264
Leaving spinan rust behind. With all this talk about parallelization why is storage still like this? Why can't a drive not get a hit in performance if I start to do something else? Like why can't drive have multiple concurrent streams of data without any penalty in performance?
Leaving spinan rust behind. With all this talk about parallelization why is storage still like this? Why can't a drive not get a hit in performance if I start to do something else? Like why can't drive have multiple concurrent streams of data without any penalty in performance?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)15:29:09 No.103921731
For pure file sharing with minimal power consumption whats a better setup?
>raspberry pi + a docking bay of external HDDs
>a prebuilt NAS
I'm trying to get the prebuilt NAS option but honestly the prices are straight up insane(I'm a third worlder and the import fees are fucking me in the ass). I'm not going to pay like 70% of my gaming PCs worth over simple storage. The first option costs like 60-70% less than the other for the same storage capacity. I get that a lot of things are set up for me there but I don't think its something I can't do myself.
>raspberry pi + a docking bay of external HDDs
>a prebuilt NAS
I'm trying to get the prebuilt NAS option but honestly the prices are straight up insane(I'm a third worlder and the import fees are fucking me in the ass). I'm not going to pay like 70% of my gaming PCs worth over simple storage. The first option costs like 60-70% less than the other for the same storage capacity. I get that a lot of things are set up for me there but I don't think its something I can't do myself.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)15:31:38 No.103921757
>>103921340
Is there better than this corpo?
Is there better than this corpo?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)15:36:51 No.103921821
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)15:52:54 No.103921992
>>103917389
>need an entire oauth/saml stack
when you say "entire oauth/saml stack" are you talking about the appropriate module in Go or Python or whatever?
>need an entire oauth/saml stack
when you say "entire oauth/saml stack" are you talking about the appropriate module in Go or Python or whatever?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)16:28:57 No.103922360
>>103918203
Still have one in my cabinet, though it's turned off. I have a bigboy nas now, so I really dont have much use for it. Have any ideas? Maybe an offsite backup server?
>>103919449
nas rated will be engineered to run 24/7, which is the entire point of a seedbox. It's up to you how important long-term uptime is. Will your PT punish you if the hdd shits the bed?
>>103921340
Proxmox would be leveling up in your case. It allows for easy backups of your VMs/containers, you can cluster with it if you want. Also allows easy mode ceph storage if you want to go that route. If you're happy with what you got, stick with it. I use Proxmox across 3 servers because it's one interface to rule them all.
Onto my shit now. I setup paperless-ngx and am liking it, though docker is being lame and I'm having permission issues with nfs shares to it. I just setup a rsync cronjob as a bandaid and it's working ok. Can't wait to get rid of paper files in my life and have it all digital.
Home assistant - what are you anons using it for? I know it's the end-all-be-all for homelab geekery in most circles...but what are the practical applications? Setting "scenes" with your lights? I have a reasonable amount of smart home shit, but I'm not seeing the benefit here. How are you using HA? Whats something cool you do with it?
Still have one in my cabinet, though it's turned off. I have a bigboy nas now, so I really dont have much use for it. Have any ideas? Maybe an offsite backup server?
>>103919449
nas rated will be engineered to run 24/7, which is the entire point of a seedbox. It's up to you how important long-term uptime is. Will your PT punish you if the hdd shits the bed?
>>103921340
Proxmox would be leveling up in your case. It allows for easy backups of your VMs/containers, you can cluster with it if you want. Also allows easy mode ceph storage if you want to go that route. If you're happy with what you got, stick with it. I use Proxmox across 3 servers because it's one interface to rule them all.
Onto my shit now. I setup paperless-ngx and am liking it, though docker is being lame and I'm having permission issues with nfs shares to it. I just setup a rsync cronjob as a bandaid and it's working ok. Can't wait to get rid of paper files in my life and have it all digital.
Home assistant - what are you anons using it for? I know it's the end-all-be-all for homelab geekery in most circles...but what are the practical applications? Setting "scenes" with your lights? I have a reasonable amount of smart home shit, but I'm not seeing the benefit here. How are you using HA? Whats something cool you do with it?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)16:32:40 No.103922398
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)16:39:22 No.103922462
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)17:08:02 No.103922690
>>103921731
>raspberry pi + a docking bay of external HDDs
i'd never trust those shitty USB/PCIe SATA controllers they use on SBCs or bays, witnessed data loss on AsMedia SATA PCIe myself, i wouldn't use anything other than AHCI SATA or SAS PCIe HBA to connect the disks.
Also using arm is just asking for trouble, stick to x86.
>a prebuilt NAS
never used one, but here are some other options for you that might be cheaper, more universal, more powerful and with more features:
>used rackmount server/tower workstation with hotswap bays (downside is noise, server chassis is very long, hotswap workstations have the most universal tower form factor, but are generally more expensive)
>old PC, either no hotswap (pain in the ass), or with hotswap bays (either a case that has those or through 5.25" bays)
i myself bought a 1U server (4 3.5" hotswap bays), tucked it sideways between furniture and couldn't be happier, you can easily expand it with JBODs down the line too.
>>103922360
sexo rack, i can't wait for renovation to get one myself, for now i'm coping by stacking shit on top of one another (barely pictured: my PC on top of my server, not pictured: my UPS on top of my PC)
>raspberry pi + a docking bay of external HDDs
i'd never trust those shitty USB/PCIe SATA controllers they use on SBCs or bays, witnessed data loss on AsMedia SATA PCIe myself, i wouldn't use anything other than AHCI SATA or SAS PCIe HBA to connect the disks.
Also using arm is just asking for trouble, stick to x86.
>a prebuilt NAS
never used one, but here are some other options for you that might be cheaper, more universal, more powerful and with more features:
>used rackmount server/tower workstation with hotswap bays (downside is noise, server chassis is very long, hotswap workstations have the most universal tower form factor, but are generally more expensive)
>old PC, either no hotswap (pain in the ass), or with hotswap bays (either a case that has those or through 5.25" bays)
i myself bought a 1U server (4 3.5" hotswap bays), tucked it sideways between furniture and couldn't be happier, you can easily expand it with JBODs down the line too.
>>103922360
sexo rack, i can't wait for renovation to get one myself, for now i'm coping by stacking shit on top of one another (barely pictured: my PC on top of my server, not pictured: my UPS on top of my PC)
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)18:03:28 No.103923288
>>103922462
Chelsio T520-CR, Dell version. expected the cpu fan to work but at this rate, might as well stick it behind the exhaust of my poweredge
Chelsio T520-CR, Dell version. expected the cpu fan to work but at this rate, might as well stick it behind the exhaust of my poweredge
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)18:54:29 No.103923722
>>103921731
If you are just doing file sharing, any SBC would probably get the job done. I'm using an Odroid XU4 as a home NAS, using forced Guest mode SMB. Only stuff connected to my network can access it, so I'm not worried about security issues. Got a single SSD hooked up over USB, but I have a powered USB hub in case I need more storage. Can access and manage my files from Windows 7 to 11, Linux, and my Android smartphone.
If you are just doing file sharing, any SBC would probably get the job done. I'm using an Odroid XU4 as a home NAS, using forced Guest mode SMB. Only stuff connected to my network can access it, so I'm not worried about security issues. Got a single SSD hooked up over USB, but I have a powered USB hub in case I need more storage. Can access and manage my files from Windows 7 to 11, Linux, and my Android smartphone.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)19:08:42 No.103923861
>>103921340
Proxmox is literally just a bunch of management tools plastered over qemu (and ceph if you use clustered storage) along with some dubious kernel patching and zfs. The overhead is pretty low.
If you want more bloat I suggest you try kubernetes-based solutions.
Proxmox is literally just a bunch of management tools plastered over qemu (and ceph if you use clustered storage) along with some dubious kernel patching and zfs. The overhead is pretty low.
If you want more bloat I suggest you try kubernetes-based solutions.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)19:22:33 No.103923977
>>103922690
>witnessed data loss on AsMedia SATA PCIe myself
This
When you lose data like that you will never feel the need to use dodgy usb controllers again
>witnessed data loss on AsMedia SATA PCIe myself
This
When you lose data like that you will never feel the need to use dodgy usb controllers again
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)19:26:39 No.103924008
I already have a linux homeserver with mergerFS. Is there any reason for me to get one of these? Pros and cons? If so, what brand or model should I get. Can I get a cheap on on ebay?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)19:26:42 No.103924010
>>103921455
what are your specs there
what are your specs there
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)21:40:53 No.103925182
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)21:44:58 No.103925201
>>103925182
is sfp really that much better?
is sfp really that much better?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)22:09:32 No.103925377
>>103925201
well they may get less hot but this is generally a 10G issue
you install a 10G nic into an actual server (or ATX) case with a bunch of actual fans blowing around, not a tiny micro-pc
worst case scenario you get one of those mini-pcs encased in 5 lbs of aluminum which already have 10G nics, definitely not a T740
there's a reason the fellas who added network cards to mini HPs or Fujitsu Futros only used 1G nics
i would go for pic related
well they may get less hot but this is generally a 10G issue
you install a 10G nic into an actual server (or ATX) case with a bunch of actual fans blowing around, not a tiny micro-pc
worst case scenario you get one of those mini-pcs encased in 5 lbs of aluminum which already have 10G nics, definitely not a T740
there's a reason the fellas who added network cards to mini HPs or Fujitsu Futros only used 1G nics
i would go for pic related
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)22:42:08 No.103925560
>>103922360
>Onto my shit now. I setup paperless-ngx and am liking it, though docker is being lame and I'm having permission issues with nfs shares to it. I just setup a rsync cronjob as a bandaid and it's working ok. Can't wait to get rid of paper files in my life and have it all digital.
>Home assistant - what are you anons using it for? I know it's the end-all-be-all for homelab geekery in most circles...but what are the practical applications? Setting "scenes" with your lights? I have a reasonable amount of smart home shit, but I'm not seeing the benefit here. How are you using HA? Whats something cool you do with it?
that paperless thing looks cool, need to check it out. my laserjet scanner outputs pdfs idk if that's still usable or if id need image files instead
and for home assistant, one use case is managing a solar system
>Onto my shit now. I setup paperless-ngx and am liking it, though docker is being lame and I'm having permission issues with nfs shares to it. I just setup a rsync cronjob as a bandaid and it's working ok. Can't wait to get rid of paper files in my life and have it all digital.
>Home assistant - what are you anons using it for? I know it's the end-all-be-all for homelab geekery in most circles...but what are the practical applications? Setting "scenes" with your lights? I have a reasonable amount of smart home shit, but I'm not seeing the benefit here. How are you using HA? Whats something cool you do with it?
that paperless thing looks cool, need to check it out. my laserjet scanner outputs pdfs idk if that's still usable or if id need image files instead
and for home assistant, one use case is managing a solar system
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:57:55 No.103926369
>>103925182
>95° at idle with no transcievers installed
epic
>>103925377
yeah my isp doesn't get 10g, just future proofing...
wonder how to power such a setup, i'll see if the board has anything to plug the fan into. what size/model is that fan?
>95° at idle with no transcievers installed
epic
>>103925377
yeah my isp doesn't get 10g, just future proofing...
wonder how to power such a setup, i'll see if the board has anything to plug the fan into. what size/model is that fan?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)01:24:48 No.103926579
>>103926369
>i'll see if the board has anything to plug the fan into. what size/model is that fan?
noctua 120mm 5V version
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F12-5V-Premium-Quality-Quiet/dp/B07DXLV5Z6
hook it up to the usb port, already comes with its own adapter
>i'll see if the board has anything to plug the fan into. what size/model is that fan?
noctua 120mm 5V version
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F1
hook it up to the usb port, already comes with its own adapter
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:15:25 No.103927610
>>103915718
Can you elaborate? What makes nftables good?
Can you elaborate? What makes nftables good?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:33:57 No.103928087
What firewall program do you use?
I've used UFW for so long, but just discovered iptables. I flushed all the UFW and Docker junk using iptables (there were like 700 rules - what the fuck?) and set a clean, meager set of 6 rules and everything is working.
I'm wondering why ufw had so much bulllshit in the iptables. 'ufw-logging-deny', 'ufw-not-local', 'ufw-reject-forward', the list goes on. Why was it so complicated when this works:
Am I missing something?
I've used UFW for so long, but just discovered iptables. I flushed all the UFW and Docker junk using iptables (there were like 700 rules - what the fuck?) and set a clean, meager set of 6 rules and everything is working.
I'm wondering why ufw had so much bulllshit in the iptables. 'ufw-logging-deny', 'ufw-not-local', 'ufw-reject-forward', the list goes on. Why was it so complicated when this works:
sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8022 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -j DROP
Am I missing something?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:07:22 No.103928287
Any suggestions for small NAS?
>1 or 2 2.5" drives
>small form factor
>low power consumption, can run of 12V
>usage is NFS/SMB share, download box (So I need SSH)
Would be good if it could run something that's not NAS OS
>1 or 2 2.5" drives
>small form factor
>low power consumption, can run of 12V
>usage is NFS/SMB share, download box (So I need SSH)
Would be good if it could run something that's not NAS OS
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:13:58 No.103928322
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:17:53 No.103928347
>>103928087
not sure if nftables is supposed to eventually completely replace iptables but it's the "modern" equivalent, kinda like ip is to ifconfig and ss to netstat.
not sure if nftables is supposed to eventually completely replace iptables but it's the "modern" equivalent, kinda like ip is to ifconfig and ss to netstat.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)06:51:17 No.103928543
>>103928322
what do you recommend for OUTPUT? I thought any output would be fine?
what do you recommend for OUTPUT? I thought any output would be fine?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)07:11:16 No.103928672
I'm thinking of getting a thin client like these to use as file server using SMB/NFS.
Possible running plex/jellyfin server, and maybe some virtual machines.
What OS should I go with?
>NAS OS (TrueNAS/FreeNAS/OMV)
>Conventional linux (Debian/ubuntu)
Possible running plex/jellyfin server, and maybe some virtual machines.
What OS should I go with?
>NAS OS (TrueNAS/FreeNAS/OMV)
>Conventional linux (Debian/ubuntu)
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:55:46 No.103929322
>>103928087
>Why was it so complicated when this works
Because it's beginner friendly. If they didn't those rules noobs would complain about muh port forwarding not working all day.
>Why was it so complicated when this works
Because it's beginner friendly. If they didn't those rules noobs would complain about muh port forwarding not working all day.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:04:45 No.103929393
I recently dipped my toes into /hsg/ by converted a neglected surface pro 7 into a home server (running just Jellyfin and the many *arrs for the time being) using an external 5tb HDD I had lying around.
It's working surprisingly well despite the passive cooling, to the point where I'm starting to develop a taste for more.
How far can I take a setup like this? specifically one where all storage (save for the OS and programs, naturally) is going through a single USB 3.0 port.
Theoretically™ USB 3.0 can go as far as like 5Gbit/s, so USB 3 speeds in and of themselves would probably not be any sort of realistic bottleneck.
Could I get away with some sort of HDD docking station? maybe to the point of using ZFS?
>Those USB controllers they have in cheap docking stations are atrocious
Are there any that ARE reliable?
It's working surprisingly well despite the passive cooling, to the point where I'm starting to develop a taste for more.
How far can I take a setup like this? specifically one where all storage (save for the OS and programs, naturally) is going through a single USB 3.0 port.
Theoretically™ USB 3.0 can go as far as like 5Gbit/s, so USB 3 speeds in and of themselves would probably not be any sort of realistic bottleneck.
Could I get away with some sort of HDD docking station? maybe to the point of using ZFS?
>Those USB controllers they have in cheap docking stations are atrocious
Are there any that ARE reliable?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:10:19 No.103929442
>>103929393
Everything I've read says the USB docking stations aren't reliable. A lot also lack proper cooling. Check Ebay and find something older in a case large enough to do what you want. Older full towers had more 3.5" slots.
Everything I've read says the USB docking stations aren't reliable. A lot also lack proper cooling. Check Ebay and find something older in a case large enough to do what you want. Older full towers had more 3.5" slots.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:22:54 No.103930153
>>103928287
I would buy a used optiplex micro. Holds one boot drive and one 2.5" hdd. Install linux on it.
I would buy a used optiplex micro. Holds one boot drive and one 2.5" hdd. Install linux on it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:40:04 No.103930316
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:56:31 No.103930454
>>103930316
They're all fine if they have the specs you need.
They're all fine if they have the specs you need.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:11:53 No.103930620
>>103930454
What OS do you suggest?
What OS do you suggest?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:38:19 No.103930888
>>103930620
depends on your skill level and goals. truenas is easy for nas, proxmox for containers, debian if you just want linux.
depends on your skill level and goals. truenas is easy for nas, proxmox for containers, debian if you just want linux.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:44:53 No.103930946
>>103930888
>truenas is easy for nas
Never understood why people suggest this webUI shit?
Even OMV is marginally better.
>truenas is easy for nas
Never understood why people suggest this webUI shit?
Even OMV is marginally better.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:48:55 No.103930981
>>103912935
>Is using a private Telegram bot as a communication tool for a home server a bad idea?
I don't trust internal communications to a third party so I do what this anon says >>103914300 just IRC bots. XMPP if attachments are needed
>Is using a private Telegram bot as a communication tool for a home server a bad idea?
I don't trust internal communications to a third party so I do what this anon says >>103914300 just IRC bots. XMPP if attachments are needed
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:53:34 No.103931020
>>103930946
I strongly suggest OMV for NAS among TrueNAS and plain Debian.
>inb4 webui shit
yadda yadda, OMV's webui is lightweight and convenient enough that saves you the trouble of manually doing shit while being performant as well
I strongly suggest OMV for NAS among TrueNAS and plain Debian.
>inb4 webui shit
yadda yadda, OMV's webui is lightweight and convenient enough that saves you the trouble of manually doing shit while being performant as well
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:56:43 No.103931051
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:57:56 No.103931059
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:11:45 No.103931185
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:56:47 No.103931615
For about six months, minus some SMART warnings, my Unraid server has been chugging along.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:00:05 No.103931649
Anons, from router,
service1.local -> 192.168.18.100
service2.local -> 192.168.18.100
From nginx proxy manager
I want to set
192.168.18.100:30020 -> service2.local.
What am I doing wrong?
For service1.local, I have not done anything and it works.
service1.local -> 192.168.18.100
service2.local -> 192.168.18.100
From nginx proxy manager
I want to set
192.168.18.100:30020 -> service2.local.
What am I doing wrong?
For service1.local, I have not done anything and it works.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:32:22 No.103932026
>>103931649
Can you substitute service2.local's IP address in NGINX? I had this issue when I was trying to access my media server at server.local -- the .local bit never worked, but the IP always did.
Can you substitute service2.local's IP address in NGINX? I had this issue when I was trying to access my media server at server.local -- the .local bit never worked, but the IP always did.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)15:11:13 No.103933127
I need soft flexible patch cables as there's little room between the patch panels and the door of the cabinet. The stiff ones in there now made one of them disconnect today after swapping out a switch.
Is there a name for them I can search for? Like snagless, or flexible or super thin ones? Just want dirt cheap ones.
Is there a name for them I can search for? Like snagless, or flexible or super thin ones? Just want dirt cheap ones.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)15:22:24 No.103933230
If I am moving to Proxmox. My ubuntu server is already using mergerFS. Do I need to setup mergerFS on the host or the VM?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)17:01:26 No.103934248
On my Pi, I'm running qbittorrent, openvpn, jellyfin, and docker with the following containers: portainer, flaresolverr, sonarr, prowler, nextcloud, and I think that's it. It's a raspberry pi 4 in an argon m.2 enclosure so it has decent cooling. Is this too much for my pi to be running? It's been acting up lately. Stopping processes, not rebooting properly, stuff like that.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)18:25:59 No.103935207
>>103916562
>Over WiFi?
Not just that but with some clients via wifi to wifi expander because coverage here sucks so literal worst possible case scenario in terms of bandwidth and latency and it still just works for me.
>Over WiFi?
Not just that but with some clients via wifi to wifi expander because coverage here sucks so literal worst possible case scenario in terms of bandwidth and latency and it still just works for me.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)18:32:01 No.103935283
>>103935207
>works for me.
Yeah, not working for me.
I got 4K TV, and playing the files from my NAS I'm getting 1MB/Sec speed compared to NFS which is about 3-4MB/sec
>works for me.
Yeah, not working for me.
I got 4K TV, and playing the files from my NAS I'm getting 1MB/Sec speed compared to NFS which is about 3-4MB/sec
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)18:34:39 No.103935314
>>103935283
What did your array and setup look like again? Because for me sure it's not as fast as other options but it still works for bluray streaming as I said.
What did your array and setup look like again? Because for me sure it's not as fast as other options but it still works for bluray streaming as I said.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)18:40:31 No.103935393
>>103935314
Plain old desktop running debian
Plain old desktop running debian
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)18:44:52 No.103935464
What do you use to download stuff with you homeserver?
If you're running NAS OS I mean.
Generally I just SSH to my OMV and run something with with tmux and get back to it later.
If you're running NAS OS I mean.
Generally I just SSH to my OMV and run something with with tmux and get back to it later.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)19:40:25 No.103936090
>>103934248
>It's been acting up lately
Maybe shit power supply
The official power supply is way better than some cable hooked up to a phone charger or whatever some people use
>It's been acting up lately
Maybe shit power supply
The official power supply is way better than some cable hooked up to a phone charger or whatever some people use
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)19:46:53 No.103936168
>>103936090
I didn't seriously consider this but I suppose I should use the official power supply if I'm going to be using it as a server for now. Thanks.
I didn't seriously consider this but I suppose I should use the official power supply if I'm going to be using it as a server for now. Thanks.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:11:20 No.103936421
>>103914824
You're not stupid, networking is stupid. Well, you might be stupid, but it's not just you.
You're not stupid, networking is stupid. Well, you might be stupid, but it's not just you.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:48:47 No.103936823
>>103897264
Whats the scoop on Open Media Vault vs TrueNAS. I am debating trying out TrueNAS
Whats the scoop on Open Media Vault vs TrueNAS. I am debating trying out TrueNAS
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:50:13 No.103936848
Casual freenas aka truenas user. I just updated to the 13.3u1 core release. What am I supposed to do in the future ?
All I use my system for right now is local file storage.
also, am I supposed to be using snapshots ? I have never used that feature in 10 years of having a nas.
I've been having issues of my connection to the server randomly dropping out or degrading to 20 MB/s speeds or worse.
All I use my system for right now is local file storage.
also, am I supposed to be using snapshots ? I have never used that feature in 10 years of having a nas.
I've been having issues of my connection to the server randomly dropping out or degrading to 20 MB/s speeds or worse.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:50:56 No.103936859
>>103936168
Yea the official one is really underrated. Usually the main symptom of a bad power supply is the unit starting to mess up I/O operations
The official one is rated for supplying between 5 and 5.1 volts no matter what you do with it, not to mention 80%+ efficiency, low noise, basic overload protections and so on
From a regular pc or phone charger USB port we have no idea about any of these parameters because nobody bothered to measure them under specific loads like running a pi. "it boots so it's fine" doesn't really count.
Yea the official one is really underrated. Usually the main symptom of a bad power supply is the unit starting to mess up I/O operations
The official one is rated for supplying between 5 and 5.1 volts no matter what you do with it, not to mention 80%+ efficiency, low noise, basic overload protections and so on
From a regular pc or phone charger USB port we have no idea about any of these parameters because nobody bothered to measure them under specific loads like running a pi. "it boots so it's fine" doesn't really count.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:55:27 No.103936915
>>103936823
You really can't win with these pre-baked solutions, each got their advantages and glaring flaws
Over at OMV support forums they loudly and proudly state "this is not a file and/or disk manager, it's a system manager" whatever that means
Nextcloud has decent UI and apps but is built with single drive use in mind like it's 1999
Truenas depends too much on ZFS pools and such
Rockstor comes with opensuse and docker stuff
Xigmanas is overly primitive you might as well use cli
And so on
You really can't win with these pre-baked solutions, each got their advantages and glaring flaws
Over at OMV support forums they loudly and proudly state "this is not a file and/or disk manager, it's a system manager" whatever that means
Nextcloud has decent UI and apps but is built with single drive use in mind like it's 1999
Truenas depends too much on ZFS pools and such
Rockstor comes with opensuse and docker stuff
Xigmanas is overly primitive you might as well use cli
And so on
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:55:42 No.103936920
I recently got a TP link EAP670 in preparation for replacing my old ISP router with an OPNsense box.
I tested it out on Monday by just plugging it straight into my switch and it worked really well. I was able to set the SSID and password through its webUI, took 5 minutes to set up.
However this morning it was no longer working, no idea what's happened.
I can still connect to it but the lights where it plugs into the switch no longer come up and I can't see it in the list of Ethernet devices on the router.
I tried pressing the reset button and it now displays the factory SSID but still no ethernet connection.
What should I do now? I tested the cable with a different computer and it works fine. I haven't tried rebooting my router yet.
I tested it out on Monday by just plugging it straight into my switch and it worked really well. I was able to set the SSID and password through its webUI, took 5 minutes to set up.
However this morning it was no longer working, no idea what's happened.
I can still connect to it but the lights where it plugs into the switch no longer come up and I can't see it in the list of Ethernet devices on the router.
I tried pressing the reset button and it now displays the factory SSID but still no ethernet connection.
What should I do now? I tested the cable with a different computer and it works fine. I haven't tried rebooting my router yet.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)21:12:50 No.103937104
>>103904560
Love homepage but not live updating the services really sucks, and the devs don't seem to want to change it
Love homepage but not live updating the services really sucks, and the devs don't seem to want to change it
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)21:40:32 No.103937419
>>103936915
Good to know Ill stick with OMV then. I already have gotten used to it.
Good to know Ill stick with OMV then. I already have gotten used to it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)21:52:07 No.103937533
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)22:39:13 No.103938126
>Successfully crammed a spare 3x drive bay into my mATX server case.
I wish they made mATX cases with half a dozen drive bays as standard, that would be sick.
Anyway, question for anons:
I started fucking around with the home server stuff last week just using vanilla Debian. It's been fun but also frustrating since I know fucking next to nothing about servers or networking. My use-cases are as follows:
>local hosting of media files
>24/7 torrent box that I can control remotely
>local cloud storage, accessible via the internet
>automated backup of my main workstation PC files
>using SnapRaid to have flexible hard drive sizes and backups
Before I go much further trying to kludge together this stuff on my own, is there a better distro/setup that I could be using to do all this?
Also do I need to buy a domain name in order to access my own self-hosted stuff from the internet?
I wish they made mATX cases with half a dozen drive bays as standard, that would be sick.
Anyway, question for anons:
I started fucking around with the home server stuff last week just using vanilla Debian. It's been fun but also frustrating since I know fucking next to nothing about servers or networking. My use-cases are as follows:
>local hosting of media files
>24/7 torrent box that I can control remotely
>local cloud storage, accessible via the internet
>automated backup of my main workstation PC files
>using SnapRaid to have flexible hard drive sizes and backups
Before I go much further trying to kludge together this stuff on my own, is there a better distro/setup that I could be using to do all this?
Also do I need to buy a domain name in order to access my own self-hosted stuff from the internet?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)22:55:10 No.103938302
Why are these so fucking expensive? What a scam. $200 for something made from easily less than $20 in parts.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:02:40 No.103938385
>>103930946
Doesn't truenas force ZFS upon you. Not always the most newb friendly option. OMV has always held the top spot for noob friendly OS (thats FOSS and not synology or qnap stuff).
Doesn't truenas force ZFS upon you. Not always the most newb friendly option. OMV has always held the top spot for noob friendly OS (thats FOSS and not synology or qnap stuff).
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:03:11 No.103938388
>>103934248
If its not the power supply as the other based anon suggests (check that first), run htop, iotop, atop, etc to see what processes are doing what and what your cpu/ram load is at.
>>103935464
wget and transmission usually
>>103936421
It's not DNS. It can't be DNS...It was DNS.
>>103936823
truenas is much beefier, but a ton more capability. ZFS, container support, etc. OMV is much simpler and easier out of the box if all you want is NAS access (i.e. you have your compute done on a different box or VM).
>>103936848
You should look into snapshots. hsg is all about learning new stuff and trying it out. Why not give it a whirl? What does truenas have for monitoring tools/logs? What are they saying about your 20MB/s?
If its not the power supply as the other based anon suggests (check that first), run htop, iotop, atop, etc to see what processes are doing what and what your cpu/ram load is at.
>>103935464
wget and transmission usually
>>103936421
It's not DNS. It can't be DNS...It was DNS.
>>103936823
truenas is much beefier, but a ton more capability. ZFS, container support, etc. OMV is much simpler and easier out of the box if all you want is NAS access (i.e. you have your compute done on a different box or VM).
>>103936848
You should look into snapshots. hsg is all about learning new stuff and trying it out. Why not give it a whirl? What does truenas have for monitoring tools/logs? What are they saying about your 20MB/s?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:03:43 No.103938393
Onto new topics: What're you guys hosting these days? I see immich is the new golden child over on selfhosted - anyone have good/bad things to say about it? I've been sending my new paperless-ngx docs all day. I've already cleared up half a mountain of old paper files. Shits getting /comfy/ over here
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:06:35 No.103938419
>>103938302
My dude if you check the reviews these are also extremely flimsy. You will not get server grade caddy quality. People literally swap one drive twice then something bends or breaks inside. Not to mention shit cooling essentially like shoving your drives in an oven. Complete scam. Get some $3 internal adapters if you got 5.25" bays to spare, dont ever buy this trash.
My dude if you check the reviews these are also extremely flimsy. You will not get server grade caddy quality. People literally swap one drive twice then something bends or breaks inside. Not to mention shit cooling essentially like shoving your drives in an oven. Complete scam. Get some $3 internal adapters if you got 5.25" bays to spare, dont ever buy this trash.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:13:40 No.103938484
How do I keep Joe Rogan fans from making fun of my Windows Home Server?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)23:28:46 No.103938652
>>103938393
>anyone have good/bad things to say about it
besides
>Smart Search and Facial Recognition, while reducing CPU load. As this is a new feature, it is still experimental and may not work on all systems.
there doesnt seem to be anything special about it, just a plain old CRUD gallery.
dont get me wrong, i dont wanna shit on it, but what exactly can immich do that i couldnt do with zenphoto (zenphoto.org) a decade ago?
>anyone have good/bad things to say about it
besides
>Smart Search and Facial Recognition, while reducing CPU load. As this is a new feature, it is still experimental and may not work on all systems.
there doesnt seem to be anything special about it, just a plain old CRUD gallery.
dont get me wrong, i dont wanna shit on it, but what exactly can immich do that i couldnt do with zenphoto (zenphoto.org) a decade ago?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:01:24 No.103938986
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:04:08 No.103939020
>>103938126
>is there a better distro/setup that I could be using to do all this?
no
>Also do I need to buy a domain name in order to access my own self-hosted stuff from the internet?
It's not mandatory but it's recommended, also to get an static IP, most folks here like to access stuff via VPN for security reasons, might want to research into that
>is there a better distro/setup that I could be using to do all this?
no
>Also do I need to buy a domain name in order to access my own self-hosted stuff from the internet?
It's not mandatory but it's recommended, also to get an static IP, most folks here like to access stuff via VPN for security reasons, might want to research into that
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:08:52 No.103939064
>>103938986
They are, but I meant these
Just get mounting brackets if you want more drives. Those shady hotswap wannabes break easily
They are, but I meant these
Just get mounting brackets if you want more drives. Those shady hotswap wannabes break easily
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)00:50:46 No.103939434
>>103938652
It does image recognition, so you can search for "horse" and all the pictures with a horse in it will be displayed.
It does image recognition, so you can search for "horse" and all the pictures with a horse in it will be displayed.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)02:57:47 No.103940296
>>103939434
>you can search for "horse" and all the pictures with a horse in it will be displayed.
you do what son
>you can search for "horse" and all the pictures with a horse in it will be displayed.
you do what son
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:13:56 No.103940715
>>103938388
>wget and transmission usually
There's a way to use that from the webUI?
I know you can install transmission plugin, but I want to know if it's possible to run aria on it.
>wget and transmission usually
There's a way to use that from the webUI?
I know you can install transmission plugin, but I want to know if it's possible to run aria on it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:15:51 No.103940724
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)04:24:08 No.103940769
>>103907540
I only host a very simple thing over Cloudflare Tunnels so I don't bother encrypting the bit between Cloudflare and my server. The proxy also makes getting a valid cert more of a pain, since now your address automatically does HTTPS.
I only host a very simple thing over Cloudflare Tunnels so I don't bother encrypting the bit between Cloudflare and my server. The proxy also makes getting a valid cert more of a pain, since now your address automatically does HTTPS.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:10:53 No.103941415
>>103928287
just get a fucking NUC and a NVME SSD
why the fuck would you use 2.5" drives in 2025? nigger
just get a fucking NUC and a NVME SSD
why the fuck would you use 2.5" drives in 2025? nigger
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:16:21 No.103941457
>>103941415
>nigger
language, edgy pajeet-kun.
>just get a fucking NUC and a NVME SSD
Not falling for muh consooom meme, and usage case is very lightweight.
>why the fuck would you use 2.5" drives in 2025
Because I have few lying around, I don't care about capacity, and I don't need to compensate for small dick.
>nigger
language, edgy pajeet-kun.
>just get a fucking NUC and a NVME SSD
Not falling for muh consooom meme, and usage case is very lightweight.
>why the fuck would you use 2.5" drives in 2025
Because I have few lying around, I don't care about capacity, and I don't need to compensate for small dick.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:19:04 No.103941490
>>103941457
>don't need to compensate for small dick.
the fact that you brought that up when I only mentioned a significantly superior tech is proof in itself that you do.
nvme has nothing to do with "consoom", it's just 30x better, one of the only actual material progressions we've seen in tech at all recently.
>don't need to compensate for small dick.
the fact that you brought that up when I only mentioned a significantly superior tech is proof in itself that you do.
nvme has nothing to do with "consoom", it's just 30x better, one of the only actual material progressions we've seen in tech at all recently.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:25:40 No.103941560
>>103941490
NAT, but what's wrong with 2.5" drives?
I know HDD are slow, and I use SSD in my simple NAS.
Things are fine for me.
>>103928287
If you can get your hands on the old odroid they make nice small NAS.
NAT, but what's wrong with 2.5" drives?
I know HDD are slow, and I use SSD in my simple NAS.
Things are fine for me.
>>103928287
If you can get your hands on the old odroid they make nice small NAS.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:33:43 No.103941635
>>103941560
something wrong with the new odroid h2 or whatever that toaster-looking thing they sell is? also need a single or dual-drive solution for remote backups.
something wrong with the new odroid h2 or whatever that toaster-looking thing they sell is? also need a single or dual-drive solution for remote backups.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)06:34:57 No.103941643
>>103941560
it's going over a SATA port vs directly connected to the PCIE bus.
Just read a few benchmarks comparing SATA to even the 1st gen NVME drives and you'll get it.
it's going over a SATA port vs directly connected to the PCIE bus.
Just read a few benchmarks comparing SATA to even the 1st gen NVME drives and you'll get it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)07:24:50 No.103942012
>>103941635
>something wrong with the new odroid h2 or whatever that toaster-looking thing they sell is
Hardware wise, I don't think so.
Design-wise? Yes.
When connecting the drives the only way to hold it is the SATA connection, so the 2.5" wobble inside.
Also some might argue that vertical orientation is bad for HDD.
>>103941643
Other than speed?
I know booting OS and faster starting up is plus.
But is there anything that offer improvement over SSD other than vroom vroom.
>something wrong with the new odroid h2 or whatever that toaster-looking thing they sell is
Hardware wise, I don't think so.
Design-wise? Yes.
When connecting the drives the only way to hold it is the SATA connection, so the 2.5" wobble inside.
Also some might argue that vertical orientation is bad for HDD.
>>103941643
Other than speed?
I know booting OS and faster starting up is plus.
But is there anything that offer improvement over SSD other than vroom vroom.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:02:39 No.103942303
bros can I turn my old laptop into a server
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:09:40 No.103942355
>>103942303
you can turn anything into a server anon, just believe in yourself and ignore the enterprise-fag
you can turn anything into a server anon, just believe in yourself and ignore the enterprise-fag
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:12:28 No.103942371
>>103942303
Laptops make great servers. What services do you want to run on it?
Laptops make great servers. What services do you want to run on it?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)08:30:38 No.103942488
>>103942303
Yes, been running old busted screenless, keyboardless X230 as server.
>>103942371
But it's still a laptop running 24/7.
I really like to get something that run on 12V and fanless.
Yes, been running old busted screenless, keyboardless X230 as server.
>>103942371
But it's still a laptop running 24/7.
I really like to get something that run on 12V and fanless.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:47:24 No.103943588
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:48:58 No.103943608
>>103943588
Mac M4
Mac M4
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:52:47 No.103943653
>>103943588
I don't know.
I was hoping someone would offer a suggestion.
Also 9V/5V are acceptable choices as well.
I have these mini UPS to use with it.
I don't know.
I was hoping someone would offer a suggestion.
Also 9V/5V are acceptable choices as well.
I have these mini UPS to use with it.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)10:58:11 No.103943705
>>103919814
Yeah I'm putting them all in OpenMediaVault, in MergerFS so over time when bigger drives come out at a SOMEWHAT okay price I ought to be able to add them in without issue. It's planned for the extreme long haul. I don't think there will ever be need for more than SATA speeds at home... Because like at a certain distance from a screen you can't discern the resolution difference. I mean I can't imagine 8K being too little one day and too large of a size for a big array of SATA SSDs.
Yeah I'm putting them all in OpenMediaVault, in MergerFS so over time when bigger drives come out at a SOMEWHAT okay price I ought to be able to add them in without issue. It's planned for the extreme long haul. I don't think there will ever be need for more than SATA speeds at home... Because like at a certain distance from a screen you can't discern the resolution difference. I mean I can't imagine 8K being too little one day and too large of a size for a big array of SATA SSDs.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:07:04 No.103943800
>>103899408
>/hsg/ rack post
>three things actually racked (about 20% of rack contents)
is that a new record?
>/hsg/ rack post
>three things actually racked (about 20% of rack contents)
is that a new record?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:07:56 No.103943809
>>103897264
How do i pass a docker containers connection through a vpn? I was thinking about another container being the vpn client but i don't know.
How do i pass a docker containers connection through a vpn? I was thinking about another container being the vpn client but i don't know.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:11:23 No.103943842
Is setting RAID hard in cli?
The only thing making me use OMV is the raid.
The only thing making me use OMV is the raid.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:29:59 No.103944008
>>103942371
I have some sites I'm currently hosting on fly.io I could probably move locally, and I want to turn it into a backup server since it has 1TB storage
would putting proxmox on it be enough?
I have some sites I'm currently hosting on fly.io I could probably move locally, and I want to turn it into a backup server since it has 1TB storage
would putting proxmox on it be enough?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:50:00 No.103944231
If your uptime is less than 83 days 23 hours and 29 minutes, lower your tone when speaking to me.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:28:17 No.103944674
>>103897264
Hello guys, wanna buy a mini pc to make it my router (will run pfsense under proxmox). I also want to host a Minecraft server (modded, 4 people max) and frigate (3 cameras). Found this mini pc on aliexpress (ryzen 4500u) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006881859496.html . I saw the price and it seems to be a much better deal than a n100
for reference (using https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ ), the ryzen 4500u has a Multithread Rating of 10888 and Single Thread Rating of 2429, while the n100 has a Multithread Rating 5467 Single Thread Rating 1930.
I asked the aliexpress vendor what NICs does it have and he told me "Intel i225V或i226V网卡芯片" (Intel i225V or i226V network card chip? I'm sure he means "and" since it has two ethernet ports and they talks about it being usable as a soft router)
Is it a good machine? thanks in advance!
Hello guys, wanna buy a mini pc to make it my router (will run pfsense under proxmox). I also want to host a Minecraft server (modded, 4 people max) and frigate (3 cameras). Found this mini pc on aliexpress (ryzen 4500u) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100
for reference (using https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ ), the ryzen 4500u has a Multithread Rating of 10888 and Single Thread Rating of 2429, while the n100 has a Multithread Rating 5467 Single Thread Rating 1930.
I asked the aliexpress vendor what NICs does it have and he told me "Intel i225V或i226V网卡芯片" (Intel i225V or i226V network card chip? I'm sure he means "and" since it has two ethernet ports and they talks about it being usable as a soft router)
Is it a good machine? thanks in advance!
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:30:16 No.103944701
>>103944674
If it has 2 ports, you are good.
If it has 2 ports, you are good.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:34:08 No.103944742
>>103944231
I patched my server 37 days ago.
I patched my server 37 days ago.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:39:18 No.103944796
>>103942012
>But is there anything that offer improvement over SSD other than vroom vroom.
you're such a fag if you're saying dumb shit like "other than speed".
but yes, far lower power usage. why am i even wasting my time on a piece of shit like you?
>But is there anything that offer improvement over SSD other than vroom vroom.
you're such a fag if you're saying dumb shit like "other than speed".
but yes, far lower power usage. why am i even wasting my time on a piece of shit like you?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)12:53:17 No.103944952
>>103944742
Then check your tone, boy.
Then check your tone, boy.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:01:32 No.103945040
>>103944674
>since it has two ethernet ports
You can have with one card, see X520. In fact, many network cards, server ones, clearly just don't have the second port soldered on. Some cards in the 2000s had four ports for one chip, so I assume switch built-in but idk.
>since it has two ethernet ports
You can have with one card, see X520. In fact, many network cards, server ones, clearly just don't have the second port soldered on. Some cards in the 2000s had four ports for one chip, so I assume switch built-in but idk.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)13:26:50 No.103945331
>>103944796
Because your point is faster is better, which isn't really the case.
Faster compared to HDD sure, but 1000% read/write speed increase over SSD translate to 5-10% improvement in time over SSD.
Which is hardly something you'd need in a NAS.
So yes, I stand with my statement, for you NVME is vroom vroom.
Because your point is faster is better, which isn't really the case.
Faster compared to HDD sure, but 1000% read/write speed increase over SSD translate to 5-10% improvement in time over SSD.
Which is hardly something you'd need in a NAS.
So yes, I stand with my statement, for you NVME is vroom vroom.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:21:50 No.103945942
>>103944674
>i225-V/i226-V
those are frequently reported to be causing issues, it's mentioned in the OP, although i personally don't have any experience with them
>i225-V/i226-V
those are frequently reported to be causing issues, it's mentioned in the OP, although i personally don't have any experience with them
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:28:55 No.103946037
>>103920429
that was probably me. you should upgrade your code and set "license boot level ipservices" so you get maximum features.
that was probably me. you should upgrade your code and set "license boot level ipservices" so you get maximum features.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:32:48 No.103946082
I want to get a home server but I'm concerned about noise. Is fanless the way to go?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)14:37:02 No.103946122
>>103946082
get a mac mini
get a mac mini
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)15:49:36 No.103946816
>>103945942
yes, i have been lurking these threads for some time. also searched som einfo on plebbit. seems that buying mini pcs with these nics might be a gamble, but there seems to be no other option (for the price of course).
yes, i have been lurking these threads for some time. also searched som einfo on plebbit. seems that buying mini pcs with these nics might be a gamble, but there seems to be no other option (for the price of course).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)16:07:59 No.103947023
>>103944231
higher than expected
higher than expected
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:41:07 No.103947916
>>103946037
Oh, I'll have to try that. I have a suspicion my switch was at the top of a stack or something. I'll have to print the boot boot process one day and inspect things.
Still haven't configured trunk ports since I can't afford much downtime. I thought adding VLAN 1 to it would at least keep things running while I figure things out, but maybe I didn't give it enough time to get itself back up. An anon told me to check if untagged traffic can pass I think, but I'm too clueless to figure that out (show interface status didn't seem to list anything). Could have sworn last time I tired setting dotq1 the command wasn't recognized either.
Oh, I'll have to try that. I have a suspicion my switch was at the top of a stack or something. I'll have to print the boot boot process one day and inspect things.
Still haven't configured trunk ports since I can't afford much downtime. I thought adding VLAN 1 to it would at least keep things running while I figure things out, but maybe I didn't give it enough time to get itself back up. An anon told me to check if untagged traffic can pass I think, but I'm too clueless to figure that out (show interface status didn't seem to list anything). Could have sworn last time I tired setting dotq1 the command wasn't recognized either.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:53:53 No.103948683
Should I buy the one on the right?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)18:55:46 No.103948699
>>103947916
dot1q command is antiquated. it's implied now by virtue of configuring the trunk. what are you having problems with? if you draw a quick shitty diagram i'll do a config writeup for you with comments explaining stuff.
dot1q command is antiquated. it's implied now by virtue of configuring the trunk. what are you having problems with? if you draw a quick shitty diagram i'll do a config writeup for you with comments explaining stuff.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:00:27 No.103948749
>>103948683
Forgot to attach pic
Forgot to attach pic
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:07:55 No.103948822
>>103948699
Made this diagram a while back. If you ignore MAN it should still make sense. Router-on-a-stick. When I tried making LAN trunk, internet went down, so I changed it back. Should note that the OPNSense NICs aren't bridged with the host, but passed through as PCI devices directly into the guest (found that easier).
Host is a miniPC with those infamous NICs btw.
Made this diagram a while back. If you ignore MAN it should still make sense. Router-on-a-stick. When I tried making LAN trunk, internet went down, so I changed it back. Should note that the OPNSense NICs aren't bridged with the host, but passed through as PCI devices directly into the guest (found that easier).
Host is a miniPC with those infamous NICs btw.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:37:21 No.103949094
>>103948822
Just tried switching to trunk now just after updating/rebooting OPNSense, and there's internet.
Not too sure about the license thing btw. Reservation was disabled? Something expired in June? I'll share output if needed.
Just tried switching to trunk now just after updating/rebooting OPNSense, and there's internet.
Not too sure about the license thing btw. Reservation was disabled? Something expired in June? I'll share output if needed.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:47:22 No.103949183
>>103948822
MAN usually means metro area network, are you talking about a management network? that would be in-band management.
you gotta trunk both sides and have the layer 3 VLAN instantiated on the OPNsense device to match. right now you probably only have the address configured on the bare OPNsense interface with no dot1q VLAN.
instead of having LAN and MAN, we're going to do both on one interface. make and attach two VLANs to the LAN adapter on the OPNsense, VLAN 10 first which will be 192.168.10.1/24. then make VLAN 20 which will be 192.168.20.1/24.
now let's say that your LAN interface on OPNsense goes to g1/0/1 on your 3850. log into your 3850 and do this:
vlan 10
name LAN
exit
vlan 20
name MAN
exit
interface g1/0/1
description To OPNsense
switchport mode trunk
now you'll find your interfaces on the 3850 that go to your specific devices. decide which ones you want on the LAN and the interfaces you want on the MAN and assign them like this.
interface g1/0/2
description LAN interface 1
switchport mode access
switchport access vlan 10
and for ones attached to the MAN
interface g1/0/2
description MAN interface 1
switchport mode access
switchport access vlan 20
easy peasy buddy - here's a diagram
MAN usually means metro area network, are you talking about a management network? that would be in-band management.
you gotta trunk both sides and have the layer 3 VLAN instantiated on the OPNsense device to match. right now you probably only have the address configured on the bare OPNsense interface with no dot1q VLAN.
instead of having LAN and MAN, we're going to do both on one interface. make and attach two VLANs to the LAN adapter on the OPNsense, VLAN 10 first which will be 192.168.10.1/24. then make VLAN 20 which will be 192.168.20.1/24.
now let's say that your LAN interface on OPNsense goes to g1/0/1 on your 3850. log into your 3850 and do this:
vlan 10
name LAN
exit
vlan 20
name MAN
exit
interface g1/0/1
description To OPNsense
switchport mode trunk
now you'll find your interfaces on the 3850 that go to your specific devices. decide which ones you want on the LAN and the interfaces you want on the MAN and assign them like this.
interface g1/0/2
description LAN interface 1
switchport mode access
switchport access vlan 10
and for ones attached to the MAN
interface g1/0/2
description MAN interface 1
switchport mode access
switchport access vlan 20
easy peasy buddy - here's a diagram
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:03:23 No.103949329
>>103949183
Was originally planning on having a managment VLAN, yeah. Got interfaces to spare for it to be on its own cable. I think the idea was to only gain access to the local network through the host, but not too sure. From MAN at least I want to have access to everything.
I'll probably dare to play around with VLANs tomorrow. Your post will definitely help, thanks. I'm such a coward whenever I try to configure the switch.
Was originally planning on having a managment VLAN, yeah. Got interfaces to spare for it to be on its own cable. I think the idea was to only gain access to the local network through the host, but not too sure. From MAN at least I want to have access to everything.
I'll probably dare to play around with VLANs tomorrow. Your post will definitely help, thanks. I'm such a coward whenever I try to configure the switch.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:20:08 No.103949475
>>103948749
if you can afford a larger drive, you can get a better deal. a decent deal is like $10 per TB.
if you can afford a larger drive, you can get a better deal. a decent deal is like $10 per TB.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:18:23 No.103950590
>>103949475
Ever have luck cracking a hdd that has stupid mac encryption? I bought a hdd at a used shop and want to see if there's anything interesting on it. Such as bitcoin (unlikely, but worth looking).
Ever have luck cracking a hdd that has stupid mac encryption? I bought a hdd at a used shop and want to see if there's anything interesting on it. Such as bitcoin (unlikely, but worth looking).
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:47:34 No.103950819
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:00:42 No.103951917
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:03:01 No.103951939
>>103951917
If you see a woman, punch her and say "fuck you bitch I'll have a server if I want a server hashtag hsg"
But personally I find women don't get close enough to kick in the gunt.
If you see a woman, punch her and say "fuck you bitch I'll have a server if I want a server hashtag hsg"
But personally I find women don't get close enough to kick in the gunt.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:17:59 No.103952023
>>103948749
the 3.5 is way larger physically, it's a regular drive. the one on the left is a laptop one, that's small so it fits into laptops, and into smaller enclosures.
the 3.5 is way larger physically, it's a regular drive. the one on the left is a laptop one, that's small so it fits into laptops, and into smaller enclosures.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:17:16 No.103952801
>>103897264
I’m using TrueNAS scale and setting up Jellyfin, trying to add my media folder. What is the difference between host path vs mount path? I read the documentation but I don’t understand it, the guides I saw just copy paste host path into the mount but I want to know conceptually what’s actually going on
I’m using TrueNAS scale and setting up Jellyfin, trying to add my media folder. What is the difference between host path vs mount path? I read the documentation but I don’t understand it, the guides I saw just copy paste host path into the mount but I want to know conceptually what’s actually going on
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:24:43 No.103952828
>>103944008
Yeah, like the other anon said, why proxmox? That's for vms right? Normal Ubuntu Server, ssh setup with a few docker containers will do fine for you. I run truenas for storage, immich and I plan to run jellyfin and something for storage.
Yeah, like the other anon said, why proxmox? That's for vms right? Normal Ubuntu Server, ssh setup with a few docker containers will do fine for you. I run truenas for storage, immich and I plan to run jellyfin and something for storage.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)03:59:14 No.103953032
is bare metal alpine stupid?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:27:52 No.103953220
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:34:36 No.103953252
>>103952801
>mount path
An entire separate disk for jelly fin.
>>103952801
>host path
This is path on ZFS pool.
Atleast that's what I think. Just create a dataset and use the host path, point it to the dataset you created.
>mount path
An entire separate disk for jelly fin.
>>103952801
>host path
This is path on ZFS pool.
Atleast that's what I think. Just create a dataset and use the host path, point it to the dataset you created.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)04:40:59 No.103953285
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:07:22 No.103953457
>>103922398
Sounds like she needs to be put in place.
Sounds like she needs to be put in place.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)06:33:30 No.103953994
Is there really any benefit of getting homelab/homeserver?
Other than flexing?
Other than flexing?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)06:36:51 No.103954024
>>103950819
>>103952828
well proxmox is more manageable right? everything is split into vms/containers and you can start/stop/create new ones/backup things simply
if you run everything in a single installation then I think it would eventually get messy
>>103952828
well proxmox is more manageable right? everything is split into vms/containers and you can start/stop/create new ones/backup things simply
if you run everything in a single installation then I think it would eventually get messy
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)07:39:55 No.103954395
Is it good idea to get EliteDesk 800 G2/3, and use it as intro home NAS/emulation machine?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)07:48:18 No.103954446
>>103928087
Just use pf its the cleanest firewall i have ever dealt with
Just use pf its the cleanest firewall i have ever dealt with
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)07:57:00 No.103954498
>>103954024
I thought proxmox needed lots of ram and cores. Proxmox might be heavy for laptops. I'm just a noob don't listen to me.
I thought proxmox needed lots of ram and cores. Proxmox might be heavy for laptops. I'm just a noob don't listen to me.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)07:58:48 No.103954509
>>103954498
it has 16gigs and one of those new AMD cpus
it has 16gigs and one of those new AMD cpus
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)09:06:33 No.103954952
Is there a better solution for running cat cables inside the house?
Getting new place and the electrician isn't tech savvy, he thought it was the same as electric cable.
Ideally there should be one Ethernet port in each room, with the living room having two at least, and another two for ceiling mounted WiFi access point, in each floor, so 8 runs in total.
I don't feel comfortable with him doing it, even after explaining it to him.
What to do?
Getting new place and the electrician isn't tech savvy, he thought it was the same as electric cable.
Ideally there should be one Ethernet port in each room, with the living room having two at least, and another two for ceiling mounted WiFi access point, in each floor, so 8 runs in total.
I don't feel comfortable with him doing it, even after explaining it to him.
What to do?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)09:13:22 No.103954997
>>103954952
You could just have him pull the cables to each room and punch the jacks yourself.
Not all electricians aren big on low voltage but they should be able to do cable runs which is the hard part.
You could just have him pull the cables to each room and punch the jacks yourself.
Not all electricians aren big on low voltage but they should be able to do cable runs which is the hard part.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)09:15:58 No.103955016
>>103953994
read the OP you retarded faggot
read the OP you retarded faggot
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)09:25:30 No.103955092
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)10:32:44 No.103955713
uf time to define VLAN's for the home network
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)10:34:12 No.103955729
>>103955713
I'm a retard and can't even configure nginx proxy manager on truenas.
I'm a retard and can't even configure nginx proxy manager on truenas.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)12:02:51 No.103956487
>>103943809
What do you mean anon , do you mean accessing their virtual network of an specific series of containers or you mean accessing the host network?
if you mean the virtual network, doing the VPN would only work if you open up the connection to the container network through the host, if not you are just opening a VPN to anything.
What do you mean anon , do you mean accessing their virtual network of an specific series of containers or you mean accessing the host network?
if you mean the virtual network, doing the VPN would only work if you open up the connection to the container network through the host, if not you are just opening a VPN to anything.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:02:41 No.103957176
>>103953994
10" rack is the epitome of larp
10" rack is the epitome of larp
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:10:03 No.103957271
>>103957176
Anything more than pic is bloat.
Anything more than pic is bloat.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:30:27 No.103957541
>>103957271
go back please
go back please
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:10:40 No.103958091
how do I get plex to recognize my porn videos?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:25:48 No.103958247
vlans created
i'm happy with the outcome
vlans for: wan, lan01 (personal), lan02 (family)
there's a wireless router and a nas at each lan that share wan
only trunk ports have access to all vlans
trunk ports are assigned only to my workstations
>inb4 you should use only one
sure, but i tinker and break shit, i don't want my family's stuff to break in case i mess something up
i'm happy with the outcome
vlans for: wan, lan01 (personal), lan02 (family)
there's a wireless router and a nas at each lan that share wan
only trunk ports have access to all vlans
trunk ports are assigned only to my workstations
>inb4 you should use only one
sure, but i tinker and break shit, i don't want my family's stuff to break in case i mess something up
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:27:56 No.103958265
>>103958247
oh and system vlan is (almost) fully isolated only accesible via trunk ports
oh and system vlan is (almost) fully isolated only accesible via trunk ports
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:48:16 No.103958480
>>103954509
also I found an AI image tagger to tag my massive collection of meme pics, it's called panoptikon
I'm thinking of moving all my pics into a single folder so that can tag it and host that folder on the server so that would have to be its own container since my pics are currently on the cloud
anyone else know any other AI image tagger? I know about hydrus but as far as I remember that one had manual tagging and moved your pics around, panoptikon is fully online and downloads the tag models from huggingface
also I found an AI image tagger to tag my massive collection of meme pics, it's called panoptikon
I'm thinking of moving all my pics into a single folder so that can tag it and host that folder on the server so that would have to be its own container since my pics are currently on the cloud
anyone else know any other AI image tagger? I know about hydrus but as far as I remember that one had manual tagging and moved your pics around, panoptikon is fully online and downloads the tag models from huggingface
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)15:14:59 No.103958797
>>103944231
kneel.
kneel.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:26:56 No.103959614
>>103958091
Use stash instead
Use stash instead
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:25:46 No.103960215
Anyone uses NUC for their /hsg/?
I want to get one for light use.
Any recommended model/ specs?
I just need NAS and SSH
I want to get one for light use.
Any recommended model/ specs?
I just need NAS and SSH
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:54:53 No.103960528
would picrel work?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:59:29 No.103960573
>>103960528
Yes as long as you properly configure networking on the optiplex
Yes as long as you properly configure networking on the optiplex
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)17:59:56 No.103960579
>>103960528
yeah
yeah
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:13:42 No.103960728
>>103960215
literally anything can serve files at 1Gb speed and run an ssh server
literally anything can serve files at 1Gb speed and run an ssh server
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:20:22 No.103960795
>>103960579
>>103960573
thanks, i know its not ideal but i'm trying to not punch a hole through my bricks on the front side of my home.
>>103960573
thanks, i know its not ideal but i'm trying to not punch a hole through my bricks on the front side of my home.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:20:48 No.103960800
>>103960728
Yeah, but I want something that's compact has SATA port and actual cover and is x86
Yeah, but I want something that's compact has SATA port and actual cover and is x86
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:23:25 No.103960830
>>103960215
>Anyone uses NUC for their /hsg/?
I do
>Any recommended model/ specs?
See >>103960728
>Yeah, but I want something that's compact has SATA port and actual cover and is x86
All proper NUCs are x86 and have a SATA port, please do some research beforehand
>Anyone uses NUC for their /hsg/?
I do
>Any recommended model/ specs?
See >>103960728
>Yeah, but I want something that's compact has SATA port and actual cover and is x86
All proper NUCs are x86 and have a SATA port, please do some research beforehand
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:25:43 No.103960853
>>103960830
Sorry I meant that I wanted the nuc because it's small and is x86.
I want to know if some quirks made running it as server annoying.
Sorry I meant that I wanted the nuc because it's small and is x86.
I want to know if some quirks made running it as server annoying.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:31:47 No.103960915
>>103960853
>I want to know if some quirks made running it as server annoying.
That's a better question, avoid chink mini PC's/NUC's, those are mostly targeted to be thin clients and may potentially lack essential features like power-on-AC (I had this exact experience with one of my NUC's).
That said:
>Avoid Beelink, even if powerful
chink brand, potential issue described above
>Prefer Intel branded NUC's
These are the best but Intel doesn't make NUC's anymore. The alternative is ASUS, they got the licence to keep making NUC's. Haven't tried these yet but I assume they're as good as Intel ones
>I want to know if some quirks made running it as server annoying.
That's a better question, avoid chink mini PC's/NUC's, those are mostly targeted to be thin clients and may potentially lack essential features like power-on-AC (I had this exact experience with one of my NUC's).
That said:
>Avoid Beelink, even if powerful
chink brand, potential issue described above
>Prefer Intel branded NUC's
These are the best but Intel doesn't make NUC's anymore. The alternative is ASUS, they got the licence to keep making NUC's. Haven't tried these yet but I assume they're as good as Intel ones
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:40:27 No.103961000
>>103960915
>Avoid Beelink
Well, shit.
I was eyeing something that was like 50$.
>Intel branded NUC
I'm fine with getting older refurbished/used NUCs.
I'm thinking of 7th-8th gen would be good way to start? though these cost like 260$.
There are the other 800 G2 but these are 6th gen
>lack essential features like power-on-AC
I guess I could use UPS.
>Avoid Beelink
Well, shit.
I was eyeing something that was like 50$.
>Intel branded NUC
I'm fine with getting older refurbished/used NUCs.
I'm thinking of 7th-8th gen would be good way to start? though these cost like 260$.
There are the other 800 G2 but these are 6th gen
>lack essential features like power-on-AC
I guess I could use UPS.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:44:42 No.103961035
>>103961000
as pointed earlier, anything will do for your usecase, just don't come back later crying that your chink mini pc doesn't work as you want it to, you've been warned
as pointed earlier, anything will do for your usecase, just don't come back later crying that your chink mini pc doesn't work as you want it to, you've been warned
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:51:28 No.103961092
>>103961035
well yeah.
This is why I'm trying to collect more information from you senpai.
Asking google is useless.
well yeah.
This is why I'm trying to collect more information from you senpai.
Asking google is useless.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:53:13 No.103961113
>>103961092
good call trusting us 4chin autists
good call trusting us 4chin autists
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:13:39 No.103961276
I can finally ascend. I signed up for a 500/200 plan only because the 1000/400 plan was too expensive ($200AUD/month).
This is the pinnacle of Australian internet.
This is the pinnacle of Australian internet.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:48:23 No.103961585
Ill wait till next thread to blog post
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:46:06 No.103962108
>>103961585
Post now and in the new thread. I want something to read.
Post now and in the new thread. I want something to read.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:47:46 No.103962125
I'm building a server room in my basement how do I cheaply make it immune to nuclear war and solar flares?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:48:48 No.103962138
Howdy, Ive been skimming /g/ for years at this point and Ive always seen this general and other "make your own server at home" youtube videos for a very long time.
What do you guys recommend for someone who wants to build their own NAS + backup who lives with two other people but dont want them to access my stuff since were all on the same network. At this moment I have no interest in torrenting/seeding, maybe in the future. An ad blocker "pi hole" for my smart tv would be cool. I have a 3d printer but barely use it so I dont think making it connected to the web is worth it when I could buy something better that autolevels.
Ive got a;
>raspbery pi 5, 8 gb, 256 gb micro sd, 27w power supply, no cooling fan
>HP slim desktop 290-a0036, amd a9-9425, 8 gb ddr4-1866 sdram
>other older PC's and two all in ones
>spare monitor
>spare sapphire dual x r9 380 oc
>256 gb sata new
>few old 500gb - 1tb hdd drives laying around. HDD health and conditions are unknown.
What do you guys recommend for someone who wants to build their own NAS + backup who lives with two other people but dont want them to access my stuff since were all on the same network. At this moment I have no interest in torrenting/seeding, maybe in the future. An ad blocker "pi hole" for my smart tv would be cool. I have a 3d printer but barely use it so I dont think making it connected to the web is worth it when I could buy something better that autolevels.
Ive got a;
>raspbery pi 5, 8 gb, 256 gb micro sd, 27w power supply, no cooling fan
>HP slim desktop 290-a0036, amd a9-9425, 8 gb ddr4-1866 sdram
>other older PC's and two all in ones
>spare monitor
>spare sapphire dual x r9 380 oc
>256 gb sata new
>few old 500gb - 1tb hdd drives laying around. HDD health and conditions are unknown.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:03:30 No.103962318
>>103962138
For a NAS, as long as you have a way to connect two HDDs, it doesn't matter what PC you use. I say minimum two because you want to have some kind of redundancy in case of HDD failure.
The easiest solutions is to use something like TrueNAS scale, UnRAID or Open Media Vault. These operating systems are designed for NAS use and make it easy to do things like creating RAID setups and network shares. I've heard good things from all three but UnRAID is a paid option while TrueNAS and OMV are free.
As for stopping your roomates from accessing it you have two options. You can just rely on the built in accounts. They'll be able to access the webpage (provided they know the IP address and port) but they won't be able to access any content without an account.
Or you can go balls deep on networking and setup VLANS so their devices are incapable of communicating with your NAS. I'd say the former is enough but if you want to learn more about networking the latter is a good option.
For a NAS, as long as you have a way to connect two HDDs, it doesn't matter what PC you use. I say minimum two because you want to have some kind of redundancy in case of HDD failure.
The easiest solutions is to use something like TrueNAS scale, UnRAID or Open Media Vault. These operating systems are designed for NAS use and make it easy to do things like creating RAID setups and network shares. I've heard good things from all three but UnRAID is a paid option while TrueNAS and OMV are free.
As for stopping your roomates from accessing it you have two options. You can just rely on the built in accounts. They'll be able to access the webpage (provided they know the IP address and port) but they won't be able to access any content without an account.
Or you can go balls deep on networking and setup VLANS so their devices are incapable of communicating with your NAS. I'd say the former is enough but if you want to learn more about networking the latter is a good option.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:38:30 No.103962607
>>103904539
Not sure about your qb question. You're saying it's not supposed to download, but if it does you'd like to delete it? You could script a watcher service to watch your qb torrent folder for .lnk and delete them instantly when seen. Would have to set it up as a service though so it starts on reboot. Could be a cool project.
Not sure about your qb question. You're saying it's not supposed to download, but if it does you'd like to delete it? You could script a watcher service to watch your qb torrent folder for .lnk and delete them instantly when seen. Would have to set it up as a service though so it starts on reboot. Could be a cool project.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:10:55 No.103962892
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:32:16 No.103963089
>>103961092
I'm using an old ddr3 (5th gen I think?) NUC for the last 10ish years and it works awesome. I run Proxmox on it and like 8 or 9 containers/VMs. It just works
I'm using an old ddr3 (5th gen I think?) NUC for the last 10ish years and it works awesome. I run Proxmox on it and like 8 or 9 containers/VMs. It just works