The chukka is the coolest and manliest shoe in existence. Chelsea boots are too feminine and gay, if you wear sneakers you need to grow up, oxfords and derbys are boring, service boots make it look like you are compensating, loafers are for twinks that take it from the behind. Nothing gives you the cool, rugged, masculine, but also put together appearance like a nice suede chukka.
Chukkas. Are. King.

>>18353508
oil tan will be more water resistant BUT the oilier surface means dust will stick to it more than a dry tan, which will get into the flex points and wear down faster if not regularly brushed. different leathers will be more suited for different uses

>>18353506
No lie detected except about service boots.

Post YOUR favourite boots.

>>18353516
Truman java waxed flesh

>>18353529
Is it true that the Radnor is not gusseted at all? Are the rumours true?
>https://eu.crockettandjones.com/products/radnor-rust-m-grain?

>>18353446
Using oil based conditioners is usuay recommended to use more sparingly. I've heard it argued (in outdoors/hiking circles) that mink oil in particular can make the leather too soft if used too frequently, which could make it more susceptible to damage from sticks and rocks.

Tldr use wax for regular maintenance and water proofing. Oil based once or twice a year when you do a more thorough cleaning, depending on how much you use your boots. There's also a variety of conditioners with various types of oil and combinations for different leathers like more sensitive fine leathers goods.
You don't want to use the smelly tar based stuff for hiking boots on your Hermes handbag.

>>18353546
You're a euro and it's scotch grain. You're not going to be doing anything in these boots that requires a gusset.

>>18353549
russian calf, and mto can get half gusset tongue on request

>>18353552
>absolute cinema
Scorsese hasn't had a good movie in decades.

>>18353564
>euro
Not gonna matter.

>>18353565
i think its just like a reaction image/twitch emote or something

>>18353516
I love my Indys because the style is cool and the Trubalance last is a wonder fit for my feet
Alden's Trubalance and White's modified Barrie lasts are my favorites

>>18353549
I'm a simple man. My boots should be gusseted a few eyelets up and there should be no buttcrack in the back. Doesn't matter what I'll be using them for. Simple as

>>18353565
Actually his most recent was his best :^)
>>18353568
Precisely

>>18353516
my wesco bosses

>>18353576
>I'm a simple man.
Yes, I already stated that you're a euro.

>>18353589
Meds

So this is the power of White's boots, huh?
>https://youtube.com/shorts/3Zl4KO7vnnw?si=oMMPjLhCUbATiUbO

>>18353605
>advertising you're a redditor
This website has fallen so far.

>>18353606
no worse than advertising yourself as noboots

then its a simple matter of posting them isn't it

then it's a simple matter of going back then isn't it

i wouldn't know i just saved that pic from here :^)

still noboots i see

all you have to do is go back and not return

i know your dad wasn't much of a man but it's never too late for you to do the right thing

Somebody make a /btg/ retard bingo card. Make sure to include "mystery mutt leather", reddit screencap, and "shitter". You'll fill it out everytime because this guy is a freindless broken record.

and noboots will be the free space lmao

>>18353565
>Scorsese hasn't had a good movie that didn't star DiCaprio in decades.
ftfy

>>18353605
Just glue that shit, nigga. Might need a vice to keep together while it cures because you waited so long like a retard.

Is this just regular cow leather? Seems a little different to what I'm used to seeing

woah, pre scratched leather

You WILL buy the new Carl Murawski x Thursday collab and you WILL like it.

>>18353920
Another day, another grift.

>>18353920
It's over for the anti Thursday shills

>>18353920
Those loops are gay and ruin the boot.

>>18353934
If you're cuffing your pants, you're the problem, not the boot.

>>18353934
Fabric pull loops are great because they don't exist except for when you use them. Also this >>18353935

The toebox is a bit too much for me. Think they should have made it a shorter toebox and unstructured. Could have been what people wanted the new Beckman to be.

>>18353920
I'd rather just wear Red Wing Blacksmiths or something

>>18353925
Let me guess, a couple of scrap pieces of real leather in the sole instead of cardboard will add $200 to the price.

>>18353974
Stop with the copes. Looks like a really solid construction with all leather components and the 4 leather options are fucking great.

Not gusseted at all though so I'm out.

>>18353983
it's better they just don't try than apply their pre perforated gusset

How are Sanders boots/shoes?

>>18353983
~$150, I wasn't too far off.
Let's hope the sole don't start to fall of within a year and they'd maybe be worth $400.

>>18353997
kek I forgot about that yeah maybe that's why

That's gay

>>18353925
ah yes the school of "lets just slap a giant heel but not build the insole up so it looks like its a high arch boot but in reality its uncomfortable af cause its too steep and is guaranteed to have your foot slide forward"

kinda wish they had boots without drop that still looked nice, cant stand that and the arch support meme

>>18354059
Just get some real moccasin boots that just have a piece of upper leather as the sole.
https://www.footwearbyfootskins.com/leather-footwear-details.aspx?pi=17

>>18354065
Gokey makes some too, and you could probably order one of their more substantial boots with this sole as well.
https://gokeyusa.com/home/gokey-boots/shadow-hunter-boots/

>>18354065
thanks anon, they look like they have alright slippers too which ive been struggling to find a pair of
i have very wonky clown toes though so i do hope their stuff would fit me, will probably look at some reviews
though, isnt it kinda flimsy without a proper sole? especially since it's tumbled leather
i do like the concept though, mocassins and moc toes in general always look kino

>>18354057
you should see the pnw style boot they sell. its even worse

>>18354083
I guess the ideal boot would be something like those leather sole mocs but with a 1-2mm thick sticky rubber sole those minimalist shoes use.
Footskins kinda does that with their wrap around rubber soles. Very thin and flexible.
https://www.footwearbyfootskins.com/leather-footwear-details.aspx?pi=45
>Big retard toes
True moccasins are constructed very differently to boots. The midsole is one full piece of leather that covers the entire bottom of she shoe and is stitched up to the moc toe. Because of this moccasins are much more flexible and can "spread out" to make room to fit your foot.
Ideally as with all boots trying them on would be helpful but they don't have stiff Ridgid sidewalls that hold your foot in place the way regular boots do.

>>18354083
Getting their slippers would be a good way to get a feel for how moccasins fit on your feet and give you a better idea as to how their boots will fit you.

>>18353920
They don't look half bad and from the crosssection they seem good enough if we're talking about Thursday prices (let's say under 300). However, being Thursday there's a high chance they'll disintegrate after a week's worth of use.

>>18354103
>I guess the ideal boot would be something like those leather sole mocs but with a 1-2mm thick sticky rubber sole those minimalist shoes use
kinda yah, im not even that big on them being barefoot type shoes, i just walk in a weird way so when shoes have elevated heels it doesnt do great things to my feet
>moccasins are much more flexible and can "spread out" to make room to fit your foot
i see.. i guess it would just be easiest to try a pair and see if it lets me spread my toes out like i usually do when i walk
on the ideal shoe though, itd probably be more of a hard leather boot with a wide enough toebox + the other stuff i already talked about
im aware that jim green exists but their shoes do look kinda ugly unfortunately
honestly i wish i just had normal smaller feet, i cant even get those nice creme slippers like >>18354106 suggested since my feet are like a size too large, black and brown really arent slipper colors
would probably ask if they add in any kind of padding in the heel too since some people tend to do that
thank you for the advice anons ill try my best

>>18354128
>on the ideal shoe though, itd probably be more of a hard leather boot with a wide enough toebox
Can't beleive I'm saying this, but... Jim Green might be what you're looking for.

>>18354129
i do have a pair of BF ARs for walks/hikes, they are quite comfy, very nice quality for the price but i wouldnt consider them /fa/ or anything
i think im just looking for something that doesnt exist yet unfortunately, id probably need to be exorbitantly rich and get some boot maker to custom build an entirely new type of boot for me

>>18353935
>buying boots you can't cuff your pants in

This is why people talk shit about Thursdays.

>>18354200
>wanting to cuff your pants
Fags get the rope.

>>18353925
Non-gusseted tongue without a tongue loop is not compatible with my kinesiology.

>>18354204
Still a better fate than wearing those boots.

>>18354216
Nah, you're gross and you should be afraid in the coming years.

>>18354217
Why? Is President Elon going to hire some jeet for my job?

>>18354222
When the war starts, everyone will be too busy fighting and starving to notice all the loafer lightener has mysteriously gone untouched recently.

>>18354223
only two more weeks till the great war anon!

>>18353925
The biggest issue for me is the lack of arch support. They're copying a PNW style boot without putting enough support in, it's just sloped so your foot is going to be sliding forward compared the same style boot from other brands.

Will people actually noticed the difference? I don't know. If you're buying "real" PNW boots, you probably won't be buying Thursdays version. But if all you've been exposed to are boots around Thursdays price point, would you feel compelled to try their newer, more expensive model?
I don't think it's necessarily a bad boot, I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.


My John Lofgren Ludlow boots finally came in. The texture on the horsebutt is incredible, it's not quite kudu levels of dramatic but it's still easily noticeable. It's also more visible than my Vibergs, those have a more subtle texture. It's interesting to compare the quality from two tanneries, the Viberg leather is from Maryam and the Lofgren is from Shinki. I'm not sure how much of the textural variation is due to difference in tanners or how much is just individual variation.
Posting this pic just to trigger the cuff faggot.

>>18354285
>I don't think it's necessarily a bad boot, I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.
Thursday customers who want to step up their game without leaving the brand. I don't have numbers to back up this claim, but I'm sure a big chunk of Thursday's revenue comes from repeating customers, in spite of all the horror stories from reddit.

>>18354285
>I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.
the cheapskate retards who buy into the "you can get as good as a boot as rw but for 200 bucks"

>>18354285
Oh, hey! They put your mom's name on that building!

>>18354285
you bottom or top?

>>18354285
For anyone curious, the left boot is the Viberg 2030 made from Maryam Salvia Sego horsebutt, the right is the Lofgren Ludlow made from Shinki Timber horsebutt

>>18354304
The lofgrens mogg

>>18354303
Top, but strictly masc4masc.

>>18354307
yah nvm youre based

>>18354285
Looking good, king

>>18354306
>The lofgrens mogg

I wouldn't say one mogs the other, just that it's an interesting detail for fellow autists.
Realistically, no one is going to see the texture on either unless they're up close enough to lick your boots. I am very curious now as to whether this would be a consistent difference between the leather from Maryam and Shinki, like the texture is a conscious choice/house style. If anyone here has any horsebutt boots from either maker, let me know what sort of texture yours have.

>>18354304
Prefer lesser texture myself like the Vibergs but sometimes stuff like that shinki really works. Just seen too many of those high texture leathers where the left boot looks completely different from the right boot or the different panels looks almost like they're using different leathers. Although with the price you're paying for Lofgren I'd suspect they'd do it right

>>18354317
>Just seen too many of those high texture leathers where the left boot looks completely different from the right boot

Excellent point, I didn't even consider that. With kudu differences in texture are fine as long as the color/shading matches. Same with rambler leather, I've got a pair of Truman boots in coach rambler and there are visible differences between the left and right boots but that's sort of the point with that pattern/texture. With something that's supposed to be more uniform I'd be pissed if there were large differences between my Lofgren boots, luckily the pattern is very even between the two.

>>18353565
Scorsese has never made a good movie.

anons what does bespoke even mean

>>18354371
It means that they designed the last for your foot.

>>18354371
they create a brand new last for you specifically
different to made to measure where they alter an existing last
bespoke typically requires two or more fittings

>>18354313
>, like the texture is a conscious choice/house style
The Shinki texture is definitely a conscious choice, their horsebutt all looks like that.

>>18354375
>>18354377
why is that a bad thing? is making a custom last just super unreliable?

>>18354390
who says its a bad thing? its the closest thing to a good thing

>>18354390
>why is that a bad thing?

It's not, far from it. It's just incredibly expensive and time consuming. You're looking at months of time if the cobbler is local, possibly longer if they're not and you have to travel to them.

Unless you have an extremely oddly shaped foot, the odds are you don't need a bespoke shoe.
The only shoe that makes sense to go bespoke for is loafers, because they are an absolute bitch to size right even for normal feet.


>>18354382
>The Shinki texture is definitely a conscious choice

Thanks anon, I'm probably going to favor Maryam in the future then.

>>18354393
>>18354400
it was just the only thing the op listed as a red flag that i didnt really get, obviously luxury is just a buzzword but that's like, a real word
>The only shoe that makes sense to go bespoke for is loafers
loafers are really cute, i hope shoe design changes before i die so people start making them for my dumb wide toes, that or like mary janes
would kinda ruin the whole look though

>>18354415
>loafers are really cute

Gay "men" shouldn't be in the boot thread.

>>18354416
im not gay, also why'd you put men in quotation marks

>>18354415
because 90% of places that offer "bespoke" isn't true at all, they are m2m at best

when is it "too much texture"

>>18354304
Any difference such as thickness and rigidity?

has anyone ever heard of gaucho ninja, they look overpriced as fuck

are jim green boots susceptible to hydrolysis? i wanna get the wedge sole stockmans but not if they can get hydrolysis. do they use polyurethane in their sole or midsole?

>>18354416
Tell em, king.

>>18354300
Honestly, with the issues RW has been having with their fashion boots, you may as well just get Thursdays.

>>18354285
>They're copying a PNW style boot without putting enough support in, it's just sloped so your foot is going to be sliding forward compared the same style boot from other brands.

To be fair, the rise isn't really that high and proper lacing shouldn't have your feet sliding forward.

>>18354566
have you tried emailing them about it

>>18353495
How do I polish greasy leather? Do I need to strip the oils with saddle soap before applying a new layer of wax?

>>18354593
You mean that one (1) pic from years ago from a single missing stitch?

>>18354590
im not a gay man but okay

>>18354313
i have horsebutt from both, ill post some more pics later. pic is color 4 shinki. maryam has texture, but most is subdued with their tpr treatment

should i buy blundstones 585? i dont like them but theyre cheap

>>18354491
Pretty much a scam

>>18354690
>missing stitch
This one? It's not a missing stitch. The stitch was either poorly finished or it's coming undone.

Shitty stitching aside, I was referring to them also using different cuts of leather with different nap for the same boot which leads to ugly wrinkles.

>>18354714
very nice

>>18354313
>>18354714
shinki uses noticeable thicker hides, at least in my pairs. the pictured maryam horsebutt is more similar to white’s horsehide in thickness.

should i buy blundstones 585? i dont like them but theyre cheap

>>18354902
No you shouldn't

>>18354903
they're half the price of literally anything else

>>18354905
bitterness of low quality will remain long after the sweetness of low price fades

>>18354908
low quality what? i need beaters for winter nothing special
i could buy like 3 for the price of 1 iron ranger the only thing that's remotely decent is jim green 718 but it looks like shit and it's still twice as expensive

>>18354917
Sounds like your mind was made up before asking for advice.

>>18355099
i was asking if theyre dogshit or good enough to buy

>>18355108
bitterness of low quality will remain long after the sweetness of low price fades

>>18354917
>low quality what?
everything
>shitty no half sizes just use the insert for half sizes lol
>mystery mutt leather
>cemented construction

https://youtu.be/OZzQqIz_qwk

are white’s in cordovan worth the money? or would viberg or crockett and jones be a better buy?

>>18355475
I think C&J, Enzo Bonafe or Alden do shell cordovan the best.

>>18355475
I always felt shell cordovan on anything but strictly dress footwear looked weird. What models are you looking at, fellow bootfag?

>>18355472
Shoulda just bought Thursdays. At least it's cheaper to bitch about them.

the archive sale isn't even a big discount, definitely not big enough to warrant this.

anyone else have a thumb and a half space between their toes and the end of the boot?

>>18355630

Just put some oil/conditioner on it, lazy.

>>18355703
>a thumb and a half space

That's it? You're not gonna win any boot tournaments with those stubby chodes.

Why shouldn't I buy a pair of Oak Street Field boots in black cxl?

>>18355803
>cxl
No. Stop being poor and spring for shell.

>>18355803
You should. You've earned it

>>18355803
as long as they are onsale, oak street arent bad. maybe take a look at grant stone or truman in same price range

>>18355472
it's true, they don't change in heel stack height for half soles
they just slap on the same prefabbed heel stack the do for full soles and don't balance it at all

it's not just their half sole boots that have this leaning back problem, all their wedge sole boots too

>>18355742
So people cram their feet’s into boots that are too small for them to win the dome? I don’t get it. Or do you mean boots that are too big? What would wearing the wrong size do anyway?
>>18356109
Is this an issue with any other PNW brand?

>>18356115
>Is this an issue with any other PNW brand?
no. White's the OG has no issues with their heels

>>18355703
I've got a thumb or a thumb and a half depending on the last. In general, having more than that empty space in front of my toes messes my gait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yESylUASXXs

>>18356211
How about you fucking write something along with posting your stupid links

>>18356273 is a niggerfaggot

Nigs engineers are strange looking

>>18356322
their stitchdown is too loose

>>18353516
Truman Black Oiled Rough-Out

I'm taking the motorcycle safety course next month and then getting my first motorcycle later this year
I've got White's MPs, which obviously have laces. Do I need a pair of boots for riding without laces?
I hear both sides. Some say they're fine some say they're dangerous and can get caught in the chain/belt
What boots are good riding boots I can check out?

>>18356487
Get some engineers, it's pretty much what they're for these days.

>>18353516
Love me nicks, simple as

>>18356541
I'd buy a pair of Nigs, but I don't like that they insist on tranny heels for everything.

>>18356546
Tranny heel is the reason I bought them. If you don’t like it get a whites MP or something.

>>18356564
Do the Whites make an MP in waxed flesh with nickel hardware?

>>18356569
I’m sure they do. I don’t know if they offer brown waxed flesh but they did have tan waxed flesh when I was looking at MPs.

>>18356487
laces are fine but get 8" boots. true cap toe if possible to deal with shifter wear

not boots but does anyone have experience with tlb mallorca cordovan? i need to get a pair of black derby shoes for suit and office wear and it seems like $150 more for the cordovan is an easy sell over the boxcalf. i'm wondering if there is some catch like they use bad cordovan or have bad clicking to maximize the shells.

>>18356724
tlb mallorca is good. I don't own cordovan from them but they're easily as good or better than my carminas that are more expensive
one day tlb will wake up and realize they can charge 200 more a pair

Got 2 goodyear welted boots now but want to try some other construction method. You guys know any makers that use blake rapid construction? Only one I know of is Helm Boots.

>>18356983
There is almost no appreciable difference at all between goodyear welted and blake rapid stitched boots. Both visually and how they wear, the only difference is that you got stitches on the insole.
Go for stitchdown, standard blake or bologna, norvegese or moccasin for example.

>>18356983
why not a stitchdown
why not a handwelted

>>18356724
TLB uses rocado shell cordovan and it costs almost $300 more than their calf artista line
that is not worth it
just get their regular shoes if you want TLB and carmina, C&J or alden if you want shell

if it's not horween shell cordovan, then it's just a waste of money
their shell is just miles above the rest and costs practically the same as the competition

shinki is second best, but can't hold a candle to horween
it holds up fine, but their finishing is worse
it's meant for small leather goods, like bags and belts for the japanese market, not shoes
the colors are more vibrant and are meant to stay consistent when the leather is flexed, it just doesn't age as nice on a shoe (or anything else frankly)
if the japanese want a cordovan shoe, they just get alden

rocado and all the other italian shell is just bad, supposedly it's gotten better over the years, but it's still quite nasty
it's looser than horween or shinki, stains a lot, stitch holes tend to develop into cracks on some pairs
maybe TLB knows how to work with it, but i wouldn't bother

>>18357062
>it's meant for small leather goods, like bags and belts
this

Anyone know a good place to get skinny Italian flat waxed laces? I prefer the laces Viberg uses but shipping from them is steep. I've tried laces Guarded Goods but theirs are longer and a bit lighter in color.

>>18357062
I really like Shinki's other leathers. The Carmel Horsebutt is pure kino.

>>18357062
>if it's not horween shell cordovan, then it's just a waste of money
>their shell is just miles above the rest and costs practically the same as the competition
Isn't Shinki widely considered to be superior to Horween?

>>18357188
by whom

>>18357193
R*ddit, Styleforum, Fedora Lounge

>>18357198
Didn't Turdsday admit they don't QC check individual boots? They just inspect one out of a batch

>>18357199
yeah they batch inspect which means nothing based on the type of product

>>18357198
The welt looks like it might be slightly higher on the right boot so it might just be that the sole/midsole is slightly thicker on the right boot. He should measure the shaft alone

I have been a follower of Stridewise since he first started his channel and it's hilarious to see how insecure he is about being sponsored by Thursday.
He very clearly is being paid to hype up their stuff and recommend it constantly, but he absolutely hates getting called a shill and gets really butthurt over it

>>18357206
I just looked at his channel, and one of his most recent is a Thursdays vs Nicks video. He isn't to be taken seriously.

>>18357217
He used to be good in the early days when he would just buy something, wear the hell out it and then review it
Now he gets sent stuff all the time, he wears it for a week and then gets paid to make a video praising it
It's the inevitable fate of every single person that makes a living off google ad revenue and affiliate links
Look at Rose Anshill and what happened to him

>>18357223
Happens to everyone it seems like. One "problem" with being a boot YouTuber is that a pair of high quality boots will last you possibly even a lifetime. So like all you really need is like maybe 2 pairs for winter and 2 pair for summer or something, and then whatever else for special occasions. That doesn't amount to a lot of videos lel. So either you just make a few videos a year and don't grow your channel or you keep buying/gifting boots every month and then they all have more boots than they could ever use in 10 lifetimes, and none of them get enough use to actually justify a real review.

Best boot reviewers are the ones that aren't boot YouTubers.

>>18357235
One thing I do like about Stridewise is he started reviewing jeans (which he hardly does anymore) and leather jackets

>>18357223
at least the rose anvil guy cuts the boot in half, reviews shouldnt ever be treated as gospel but at least i feel like i learn something about a boot when i watch him
that said i guess boot manufacturers could just send a custom pair to lie and look good

>>18357255
>i guess boot manufacturers could just send a custom pair to lie and look good
That would be crazy. First of all, it wouldn't be worth making a 1/1 custom pair for some youtuber's review, and even if it was that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.

i feel like a cringe fucking dumbass wearing leather boots to my uni, when everyone is wearing some shitty sneakers

what do

>>18357287
i kinda wish more people would cut stuff in half or do at least some tests on stuff
probably too expensive if you're not rich and doin it as a hobby unfortunately

>>18357306
just stop feeling cringe, simple as

>>18357306
why do you feel cringe anon? not fitting in in a cool way makes you look good

>>18357306
I couldn't imagine being a grown ass adult caring what some zoomers I don't know think about my shoes

>crust horsebutt
lol
https://standardandstrange.com/products/s-s-x-sagara-valiant-boot-crust-horsebutt?

>>18357188
no one with half a brain thinks that. Comipel is second to Horween because Shinki is genuinely shit for footwear. I'd like to try Maryam Shell, their HB is very good so they might have potential. But they rarely seem to produce it.

>>18353506
Chelsea boots (yes including blundstones that fa hates) look better than these shitty boots and the others you listed lmao

>>18357235
I like Taik from bootlosophy. His reviews ain't great, but he's not sponsored and he's comfy.

>>18357340
Does anyone own a pair of boots from Sagara? I like a couple of their designs and the options for the MTO boots.
The sticky says stay way from Indonesian boots. It also says stay away from China boots, but Grant Stone is recommended every thread.
Is the sticky recommendation based on 4Chan racism or boot quality?

>>18357529
Sagara is one of the few good ones out of Indonesia, but they are still a lot more unpredictable with shit communication and aren't really "good value" or particularly cheap anymore.

>>18357529
The advice after the care is nonsense. Ignore.

>>18357529
The sticky is 90% bullshit and I have no idea why prior keep copying it each thread

>>18357552
it's a noob filter

Why do these threads only post pictures of boots? Like how often are you even buying 200 - 600 dollar pairs of boots?

You would think more time and posts would be dedicated to boot upkeep, care, and longevity.

My question is about Mink Oil - I've seen a lot of debate on whether or not mink oil is good for boots. Seems like its been used for years and years and recently the opinion, mainly driven by multiple subreddits, is that Mink Oil is actually detrimental to boots. That the mink can damage the leather, stitching, etc.

Anyone have any experience? I used it yesterday on two pairs of my Thorogood work boots - they seem fine for now but obviously I haven't used them much since oiling.

>>18357577
im not sure why but your post reminded me of the intro paragraph of a highschool essay

>>18357577
Mink oil darkened my Iron Rangers so I stopped using it

>>18357577
mink oil is only useful for work boots in very rough conditions. for everything else it's excessively oily and will darken your boots significantly

>The break in was one of the longest and most uncomfortable break-ins I've ever experienced. While they did fit, they were snug, and I knew that I wanted to start with a slightly more snug boot and end with something really form fitting than something comfy out of the box and slightly too big after a few months of wear. More or less opting for a performance fit. I had to wear them for minutes at a time, unlaced, then longer and longer periods of time laced, skipping certain hooks to avoid hotspots. I’d say that I didn’t actually walk in them for any extended period of time until about 3 weeks in, and I’d have to swap out to something more comfortable if I wore them too long. Only started wearing them daily a month and a half into the break in, and only managed to wear them for an entire day uninterrupted maybe like 3 weeks ago.
lel

>>18357654
Lmao what boots did this soft faggot buy?
Worst break in I've ever had was probably my Iron Rangers and they took a week. After a week they were fine, but that first week was rough
Worst shoe break in was actually some Cheaney loafers. I would wear them to work and bring a change of shoes to change into after a few hours. It took a few weeks before they stopped hurting

>>18357655
Limmer boots. I'd imagine they would be one of the toughest boots to try and break in if they're actually the wrong size, which his clearly are.

>>18357666
you vill go a half size down and buy ze boot in too narrow of a width

>>18357654
I don't get it. Even the popular influencers say that a boot should be comfortable fitting and with no pain points right out of the box. Why are people still buying shit that's obviously too small, where is this information coming from?

>>18357654
>performance fit
o i am laffin

>>18357669
For the same reason people are buying selvedge denim 3 sizes too small: "it will le STRETCH"

>>18357655
I didn't have much trouble breaking in my IRs, and much less my 875s, which took like two or three days. The Beckmans, on the other hand, wrre a nightmare, but partially that was on me because I should have gone half a size up in hindsight. My Trumans were a bitch to put on at first, but once my foot was in they were pretty comfortable and have only improved with use. I can now put them on in a matter of seconds.

>>18357529
the golden age of indo makers have passed, they have reached saturation point

Best Chelsea boot for 500-600€?

>>18357773
grant stone

my jim greens came today but /fa/ has made me to insecure to post them

>>18357811
Please assume the position

>>18357773
Crockett and Jones waxed roughout

>>18357287
>First of all, it wouldn't be worth making a 1/1 custom pair for some youtuber's review
What? Companies spend millions on marketing, a high quality handmade pair of boots can be had for what, $1000? $3000 on the absolute higher end? And that's the cost to you with profits factored in, the cost to the company would be much lower, absolutely worth taking their best worker aside and having them do a pair of boots with the utmost care, swapping cheap stuff like plastic heel stiffeners for leather and such, picking their best sections of leather, doing proper QC, etc.
>even if it was that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.
Meh, companies change their manufacturing process without telling anybody all the time, wouldn't be the first time someone bought a piece of clothing/footwear from a reputable brand only to find out it's shit and not at all as other people said because they're cutting corners and moved their production to some fourth world shithole that's even worse than China 6 months ago. And people will keep buying them for years on end because whatever influencer they paid has much more reach than any disgruntled customer willing to make an online post about it.

>>18357287
>that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.
ferrari routinely semds press cars with more power than the regular production cars for reviews. it's well known and at this point nobody even bats an eye

>>18357812
4D drawing what am i looking at here

>>18357889
proper form for boot selfies

>>18357720
My Blacksmiths were a bitch to break in. Even wearing thick socks the top of the shaft managed to rub my leg raw. I just slapped a band aid on it and kept going. It's weird, it's the only boot that's ever done that and I've broken in much tougher leathers.

How likely are you to actually get accosted or bothered for wearing white ladder laces on combat boots? I think they look great but I don't want people bothering me calling me a wignat

>>18358069
if youre not a nazi then i dont think white laces alone are enough for someone to say anything

>>18358072
My yarmulke should keep me safe from such accusations then :^)

>>18357858
>>18357876
Ok I admit I didn't think enough about the 1/1 pair thing, of course a company would mnake a custom pair for a youtuber, but they wouldn't send him a better one and pretend that's how they make all their boots. The Ferrari comparison doesn't work because that's a sports car (luxury) and these are heritage boots (blue collar). Different customers and totally different expectations. As soon as it came out a boot maker did that it's over for them.

>>18357858
Thing is, these aren't normie companies, heritage boots are very niche. They can't just change their production and have no one notice or care. We have literally seen makers like Allen Edmonds, Alden, and Florsheim go down in quality, and we don't buy them anymore. They pivoted to normie customers to survive. The White's Perry boot wasn't made well enough for us so they made the Perry Selects. Point is, we are the customers that notice things, and the companies that want us as customers can't do things like that or we go away.

>>18358069
Not one single person would ever say anything. No one would even think anything. No one will even notice it or look at you or your shoes lol.

>>18356487
Imo these trickers motorcycle boots look baller.

>>18358393
the patch is certainly an aesthetic choice i can see people like, but that circle on the shaft is unnecessary.

>>18358069
Very unlikely. Unless you're dressed like a skin and have a buzz cut or a shaved head, most people won't notice, care or know about the laces. And in that case the laces thing is the last thing they'll use to call you a wingnat.

>>18353495
What brands do boots for someone who's size is 37 in EU? (Something along 5 in US I guess)

>>18358466
Have you tried women's boots? A lot of them are similar to the male versions but smaller. Maybe buying one size bigger (most brands seem to only go as low as 38EU) and adding heel, tongue pads, thicker insoles to make up the difference would work? Otherwise you'd have to go MTM which is $$$.

>>18357811
You should post them anyway. The only downside to JGs is that they don't polish the edge of the leather pieces, which is why sissies ITT call them "ugly". Otherwise, JG get you materials and build quality of boots double the price at the cost of slightly less detailed finishing touches.

There are no "official" sellers of Solovair boots here in Australia. Are they actually that much better than Doc Martens? I don't know if it's worth the hassle of ordering from the UK and finding out I got the wrong size and having to send it back when I can easily get a pair of Docs here in every shoe store.

>>18358492
I'd like too but its not easy to find brands that do them. For example I really like Truman boots but they just don't do women's and their lowest size is 40 in EU. As for adding pads and everything I have tried that before but I found it extremely uncomfortable, maybe I did something wrong I don't know but it ended up tightening too much particularly around the bridge of the foot. I guess I'll have to try again if I can't find a way around that

>>18358521
Neither Solovair nor Doc Martrens are boots, but yes, Solovair are a bit better, but not so much better to bother with import costs on top of the cost of the shoe. They are the same thing, Solovair just has maintained more of the original quality than Chink Martens.

>>18358406
>that circle on the shaft is unnecessary
ankle protector

What's the difference between the TLB Mallorca artista and main line?

>>18358596
If that's where your ankle is, you're a mutie.

>>18358419
I do have a buzzcut but it has nothing to do with white nationalism, I'm a Jew

>>18358069
Just get yourself a cute little 4'11" hoodrat/chola gf and no one will bother you about your nazi boots.

>>18358602
It's just nicer overall, hard to explain without just seeing them both
I got artista because it's only like 50 bucks more

>>18358609
seek help

>>18358632
>simping for brogued out eurofag boots
You first.

What's the best way to clean salt/water stains from the sole?

>>18358636
>pointing out why something was done is simping
see>>18358632

>>18358699
No, I don't think I will, simp.

>>18358393
That's a lot of leather at the toes. Pretty cool though

Any anons got a rec for work boots?
>Walking on concrete 10hrs a day
>Under $400
>Could still wear around the office

>>18358861
Red wing 875 or Whites Perry select.

>>18358576
They're boots.

>>18358937
Take it back!

Side zip boots in this style that are relatively afforable? In the 150-200 range ideally.

>>18358950
Don't let anyone here meme you out of buying zipper boots.

>>18358514
i embarrassingly ordered the wrong size by accident but i might touch them up a bit when the right ones arrive and post them but please dont make fun of me my shoe options are very limited

>>18358521
There is no real difference between the two. You should discriminate between aesthetics and the leathers used.

Dr Martens soles are softer and bouncier. If you have a non standard gait they will wear quicker.

>>18358950
no

Whites' Loggers in the snow. Surprisingly warm, great grip on the snow and ice.

>>18358967
they are warm, because they are very insulated from the ground and that is probably the most important thing for a winter boot
the uppers don't matter that much, you can always just wear thicker socks, but that won't save you if you are losing heat through the sole

>>18358967
brown dress?

Oh, god. They're trying to talk about whites again. Yawn.

Anyone have experience with Collonil shoe cream? It’s a lot cheaper than the usual recommendation of Saphir. I thrifted some used leather shoes (AEs) and I’m looking to make them look a bit less scuffed.

>>18358861
Red Wing work chukka

who here with cropped pants?
don't like cuffs

>>18359455
I always get mine hemmed. Cuffs look ugly most of the time
Sometimes cuffs can help break up the silhouette and look good, but usual not

>>18359415
which model is that?

>>18359607
Turnout in "distressed black" (custom made to order leather choice from over 10 years ago)
Had a cobbler add the vibram 100 sole + heel.

>>18359694
nice

hello recommendations for pants/jeans that i could style with these suede chelsea boots?
All i see online are jeets with skinny jeans holy fuck

so i really have my heart set on getting some white engineer boots soon, but im mentally tormenting myself over whether to get the black ones or these distressed brown ones. objectively, by themselves, i think these look better than the black ones and will show more character. however, i have a black leather jacket and black jeans, so these brown engineers wouldnt really go with that would they?

>pain in heel/tendon/side of feet
>go to doctor
>bone spurs my man
>she rubs my feet all sweet like and teases me about big needles vs small needles and gives me an injection
>says wait a minute
>comes back with pic related, says it'll help with pain maybe
>I'm 6'4" doc
>now you can be 6'6"!
If I'm wearing boots I don't feel pain, but when I'm wearing my Frank's I feel like I'm 6'6". Does anyone have any experience with more discreet insoles for fucked up feet?

>>18359843
go with the brown black is for boring people

>>18359846
did you cum from the footjob?

>>18359858
No. Needles hurt, man.

>>18359866
only if they use too low of a gauge, 25 and above is basically painless

>>18359096
>brown dress?
Brown doubleshot.

>>18359056
Makes sense, never thought of it that way. Also my dumbass just started wearing wool socks, they make a huge difference in the winter. I have no idea why I didn't try them out sooner.

>>18359172
>They're trying to talk about whites again
Don't look now, I'm wearing a different pair today.

>>18359830
Any jean with a repro style silhouette. Sugarcane 47s are pretty safe.

>>18359843
You can wear brown boots with a black jacket, brown and black go together just fine. Also you can make the brown work with more fits than black.

So, what's the TRUE consensus on Grant Stone?

>>18359980
best value for money

>>18353495
I recently purchased my first pair of boots in years, a pair of 14-inch logging boots from Buffalo Boot Co. that were made in the US. The boots were a great deal at $180, but upon arrival, I discovered they had screw-in spikes. Unfortunately, I accidentally cut the side of the boot while removing the spikes, but I was able to repair the damage.

Now, I'm looking to replace the spikes with hobnails or studs, but I'm having trouble identifying the type of spikes that were originally installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what type of spikes these might be?

Additionally, I'm looking for advice on how to achieve a polished look on my boots and care for the leather soles. I want to prevent them from drying out and cracking, so I'm looking for recommendations on the best products and techniques to use.

Specifically, I'm looking for suggestions on:

Identifying the type of screw-in spikes that were originally installed
Replacing the spikes with hobnails or studs
Achieving a polished look on the boots
Caring for the leather soles to prevent drying out and cracking
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

>inb4 reddit spacing
im retarded and cant type worth shit thanks

>>18359926
>wears hwites
>gives off major homo vibes
Every time.

>>18359843
Everyone gets black and for a more rounded style like those I think the brown looks better. If they were sleeker I think there would be a better argument for black.

Does anyone what model is this second hand whites boots? Worried about the heels being this worn but the price seems good

>>18360434
why would you buy thus?

>>18360463
I only have a pair of grant stone diesel in dark brown cxl that I wear every other day. Im slowly looking for a more rugged/casual boots to wear if ive worn my diesel the day before. If I havent found any other boots ill probably buy grant stone brass or field boots the next time they have some big sales

>>18360490
m8 you just missed black friday
anyways do you want some stinky, stained, blown out pair of whites or a fresh new pair of brass boots?
dont waste money on that

>>18360499
I bought my diesels on black friday this year, at the time i thought 1 pair was enough. Guess i'll wait for the next gs sale

>>18360463
Those boots look fine, they just need a good cleaning and conditioning
I personally don't buy used footwear because it's kind of gross, but those boots check out

>>18360529
what did you get with it to hit $400?

>>18360538
I got their horsehair brush since I didn't have one, and didnt know how genuine horsehair feels

>>18360536
I'd have to buy some kind of saddle soap to clean, I'll wait a few more days and see if my itch to buy this would subside

>>18360434
Don’t buy that. Buy them new and you want speed hooks on them not all eyes.

>>18360415
talk shit post fit

anons whats a good horsehair brush to buy?

>>18360833
The cheapest one you can find

>>18360834
what if it's fake and actually like plastic

>>18360833
the one with the highest hair density, you'll need to feel a couple of them up to know what i'm talking about

>>18360835
Then obviously that isn't horsehair so don't get it

these JG wearers really are something else

>>18360833
Any of them. I got one from a brand called Red Moose that I really like.

>>18360848
Can't imagine why someone would buy those things on purpose

Ok I just got my inheretence check. I'm going to buy the best pair of boots in shell cordovan that I can. What should I get? Made to order? Whites? Grant stone?

>>18360852
Viberg or Alden

>>18360852
if money is no object go full bespoke with john lobb

>>18360848
Are they made of c*rk or what?

>>18359455
usually I can find something that doesn't require hemming or cuffing. I don't like the cuff look any more than I do the bare ankle look that it seems to go hand in hand with

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>>18353805
SOLE.

>>18358069
I wore white ladder laces with tucked in jeans for about 2 years at a university and no one said anything except "cool laces."
No one knows what it means nowadays.