MAYBE SATAN ISN'T THE BAD GUY
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:52:31 | 146 comments | 20 images
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Everything about "God's" reality is fucked. God has created a reality where he feeds off suffering, loss, and destruction. Satan is in rebellion of this, yet he is looked at as the bad guy. Satan never asked us to worship him, god did. Who has the ego problem?

Maybe god isn't what he says he is, just saying.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:56:06 No.39686396
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>>39686374
another daily thread of "da devil is da good guy"
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:58:59 No.39686415
>>39686374
1 - there is no Satan.
2 - Accepting a model where there is, the concept is that the one in rebellion is the one making this place so shitty.

It's like if you are playing Warhammer, and a ditzy girl that wants attention walks in. An she starts fucking up the game every way she can think of for attention.
And now you are looking at the host of the Warhammer going
>how could you say this is a good game when she is over there fucking everything up?
>maybe she is the better game host, since your night is so shitty
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:59:56 No.39686422
Hmm, well Satan isn't the reason I had part of my dick cut off as soon as I was born so he has that in his favor at least.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:00:55 No.39686428
>>39686422
that would be the jews anon, the synagogue of Satan.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:06:42 No.39686476
>>39686374
There are two beings when we speak of “Satan”
One is the literal embodiment of death and destruction. He wishes only to destroy because he covets the power to create.
Things that promote creation and enjoy the Creator’s works are “good”. Things that rebuke them and destroy them are “evil”.
Yes, that means fire is “evil”. What does that say about our society that we essentially worship fire in our day to day lives?
The second being is far more dangerous, the one referred to as the serpent, the king of this world, the prince of lies, and whatever other name you may have heard ascribed to him. He has no interest in corrupting the material of the Creator, but rather ensuring the damnation of your soul through treachery and deception. He is the one you need to be wary of.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:13:30 No.39686511
>>39686476
Shut up, you know nothing.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:18:40 No.39686551
>>39686511
The hour draws near that I don’t give a shit whether you listen at this point or not.
Know this: others will if it is fate they shall be saved.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:21:32 No.39686566
>>39686374
Surely you can see the flaw in your thinking... Maybe Satan IS the god of this world
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:28:25 No.39686602
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:12:19 No.39686891
He isn't, bot. Daddy once said he is the last humanist. He want the good for men, but it is men who practice evil.
One could say men do evil because of hunger, which leads to greed and jealousy, but this entire world is based on hunger, and it wasn't daddy who created it.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:08:10 No.39687219
>mfw niggas be thinkin christianity is a dualistic religion
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:12:05 No.39687235
>>39686374
Reality is like that specifically because the material world is ruled by Satan you ignorant fool
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:13:03 No.39687236
The indomitable human spirit
>>39686374
Lucifer *IS* the good guy. "Satan" is just God. It's part of God's good cop bad cop routine
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)21:47:32 No.39687387
>>39686551
The prophets grow weary of the wicked who will not hear.
As it is written.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)22:54:15 No.39687684
he says he will never die
>>39686374
I can only tell you what I know.
A demon told me one time "Your [mankind's] suffering is our milk. You are our most profitable cow." before they went back to torturing me.
They also referred to me as their golden calf at one point, I had not heard that story so imagine my shock reading it.
Whether they want us as tools [friends :D] or food, how magnanimous that we get to be born to suffer and die for the real beings, over and over. We should be grateful that we chose something so permanent, and ashamed that they smudged us so bad.
What you are referencing though, is a single story in a war you don't understand. It's like choosing between two equally fucked up parents with their own divorce propaganda. There could be a good guy, but you'll never fucking know; and unless you unaffiliate completely, you will join the winner whoever they might be behind the mask.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:00:19 No.39687712
>>39687684
It's ok to meet your heroes, but don't know them.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:12:18 No.39687775
>>39686374
>Everything about "God's" reality is fucked. God has created a reality where he feeds off suffering, loss, and destruction.
Let me be absolutely clear: You don't even know what planet you're on, literally.

THE FINAL REDPILL ...

Read this thread:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589

Keep in mind that both Christians and atheists do not like what I have to say.

Also, here's a supplementary post that contains some important details:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856

I can't tell you exactly when Jesus will arrive to destroy this planet (I can't even give you the year, let alone the month). But here's one thing I do know with 100% certainty: this planet is Bozrah, not Earth.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:42:31 No.39687893
>>39687775
We live in Bozrah.
They keep doing experiments.
People need to escape the matrices of politics and idol worship on social media.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:02:06 No.39687986
>>39686374
Today i found and hand fed a feral dog but was unable to capture it. I went back to try to give it more food, asking God to help me, restore my faith in this fallen world, by simply allowing a good thing to happen. Instead I found nothing. It will be below freezing. The dog will be so very cold, if it survives at all. All I wanted was His help in alleviating the suffering of this animal, and my own suffering for having compassion. And I was met with only the cold. I watched this dog run/limp away. It isn't doing well. And the only way it could possibly have been comfortable would be through my intervention. Divine intervention never occurs. He's a very hands off God. Makes him difficult to believe in. Or place trust in. Especially when you feel like the only good in this world is what WE are bringing into it.

I desperately want to believe in something but am often shown why faith is stupid.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:03:18 No.39687991
>>39686415
Your host won't kick out this annoying girl but holds you in judgment.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:04:24 No.39687996
>>39687236
This. If Satan has control it's because God permits it.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)00:05:26 No.39688002
>>39686374
you ever find yourself doing something odd and think you accidentally stumbled into some algorithm in the matrix? I bet the devil does shit like that.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:02:31 No.39688617
god
>>39686374
>MAYBE SATAN ISN'T THE BAD GUY
Maybe you're 14 years old?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:03:43 No.39688625
>>39686396
And apart from a book and evil people, who told you this was god, and that he was good?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:15:08 No.39688670
>>39688625
What do you define as evil
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:20:53 No.39688703
>haha, I'm going to burn people alive over a book
>What do you mean I'm evil?
>Ure mean :(
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:34:00 No.39688758
Satan's just here to test you really.

To see what your soul is really made out of.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:35:05 No.39688762
>>39687986
Maybe the dog was sick and destined to die, maybe it could attack you at any given moment if you would actually have the chance to bring it home, maybe it had an infectious disease. The poor creature may die out in the cold, but God may have shown you and the dog mercy. That soul will go to a better place and you already did a very generous thing, I wouldn't blame God since you might've been done a favor there because you never know what you could've brought home.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:36:20 No.39688767
>>39688703
No it was over them breaking the law and being insane retards. Also the book is representative of a moral standard that people were generally expected to abide by. This is like saying the death penalty is irrelevant because the law is
>just some words on a page
The same exact thing. Standards of behavior are put in place for the sake of the collective betterment of society. I know you're just baiting and have a very low IQ but I'm just putting this out there. You can be intentionally reductive but they weren't burnt alive "because of a book." It's what the book represents, and the vision of the world that the majority of Europeans to ever exist accepted as being objectively true. You are individually a piece of shit who would be considered a bad person at most points in history and in most cultures thoughever
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:38:42 No.39688774
>>39688767
>Believe 0'5% different doctrine
>Thrown into the fire
I've studied history, retard
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:39:22 No.39688775
>>39688703
Oh also you do not actually have a logically coherent definition of evil besides
>Did something I don't like
Because without God everything is subjective
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:41:34 No.39688781
>>39688774
Look out anon over here studied history and thinks conflict over ideological differences are inherently evil despite not having a coherent definition of evil. You fixate on Christianity because it's relevant to you personally and you don't like following the rules it lays out for you to follow. Everything else is just window dressing, post hoc rationalization for a conclusion you already came to and seek to retroactively justify.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:42:05 No.39688784
>>39687991
>Just deal with it for an hour and then it'll be just the gamers.
But instead you decide to try and fuck the girl.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:43:40 No.39688790
>>39688774
And you were not referring to conflicts over doctrinal differences, you were going to complain about witches like a redditer but changed course when it became obvious that I'm not a retarded facebook boomer
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:44:22 No.39688792
>>39688775
>without God everything is subjective
Opposite.
It can ONLY be subjective if you assert an omnipotent God.
Otherwise, for it to be objective, that would mean there is some standard that God has to live up to as well.

God sets the standard, as God creates everything. So it's all subjective, because it all depends on the whim of one omnipotent subject.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:46:44 No.39688801
>>39688790
No, pretty sure it's the first thing I thought.
Miguel Servet was the first man to discover the workings of the circulatory system, yet he was burned precisely over this. Learned the fact at a very young age.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:47:08 No.39688805
>>39688792
You're a pretentious imbecile
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:51:40 No.39688821
>>39688801
No, he was killed for being a heretic with idiotic views on the Trinity you fucking retard. This is why you should always ignore liberals when they tell you something. It is only ever 90% true at most. I remember being told that the Catholic Church killed people who thought the earth was round. That is the average level of truth you will get from these people. You got something more true, but it will never be completely true.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:56:53 No.39688842
>>39688821
>How am I evil?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:01:32 No.39688865
>>39688842
Yeah, how am I evil? Instead of replying with useless gay little greentexts where you say nothing, you actually attempt to outline what is specifically ontologically evil about me? Actually do it. Don't just mumble impotently about muh violence. Actually define evil in objective terms and explain how that applies to me.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:01:44 No.39688866
>>39688805
Glad I could correct your error.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:02:39 No.39688873
>>39688866
Stupid faggot
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:16:39 No.39688920
jehowah the devil
>>39686428
Who worship Yahweh, just like you do.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:20:24 No.39688933
hehe
Its very entertaining how butthurt christcucks get over this topic. It's almost as if they have to do mental gymnastics to justify hundreds of years of blatantly immoral behavior in the name of their god and get frustrated when inevitably people come to the most obvious conclusion about the topic. Poor, poor christcucks, always the victim and never anything else (or else they'll get mad at you). Hehehe

https://youtu.be/Q_ADu4ptxRw?si=XnTIgzbpe7TDvew4
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:30:52 No.39688975
>>39688933
Have you considered the possibility that you're a retarded double nigger with no original or insightful thoughts of your own? No that would require self reflection, something you are entirely incapable of
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:34:44 No.39688994
>>39688933
Also your taste in music is embarrassingly bad
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:41:36 No.39689020
>everything bad in the world thats happening is due to satan / rejection of God's law
>God is the bad guy tho

you dig your own grave
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:44:04 No.39689029
lol_lmao_even
>>39688975
>>39688994
Like pottery.

See, this is what happens when you can't keep your mood in check. You lash out, do things you probably wouldn't otherwise, like prove my point mere minutes after I made my post. Now imagine an entire religion full of people like this, and you might start to see where the bad stuff tends to crop up. From an external perspective, it looks like a bunch of people who aren't guided by any kind of genuine logic but instead care only about the feels - theirs, specifically.

>>39689020
You say that as though it is true, but an objective look at history speaks quite to the contrary.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:54:39 No.39689077
>>39688762
The point is I prayed for something to believe and was provided nothing. I don't need protection. I need something to believe in.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:56:27 No.39689084
>>39688865
Actually do what? Find you irl and see how humble you become while getting knifed?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:57:59 No.39689090
>>39689020
Satan is... Who?
>Le Serpent
No, Satan is gods prosecutor in the old testament not having rebelled yet.
Satan who?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:04:27 No.39689102
>>39689077
I understand, but is it not a different sign that you were given, since nothing did happen and the dog went away? What if any of those things could happen I mentioned or something else, did it not strike you that maybe you were just protected? I wouldn't trust a wild animal other than feeding it myself, hopefully everything is okay with that creature.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:06:54 No.39689108
>>39689102
I would rather die in belief that be protected and jaded in disbelief. And my life has mostly had the latter. So don't come at me with God preserving my physical body while doing nothing for my soul.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:07:58 No.39689110
>>39689077
>>39689102
Not needing protection is easy to say, until you find yourself in a certain situation, I think everyone does need it at some point.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:08:42 No.39689112
>>39689108
The issue is looking for goodness in this world. And then when you don't see it blaming it's creator. Well yeah. Of course I do. If I built a funhouse and it wasn't fun would you at least ask me why it wasn't?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:11:03 No.39689117
>>39689110
I want the preservation of my soul and living in His world has only diminished it. Preserving the body clearly hasn't helped. My immortal soul cries out for justice, and is met with silence, and it makes me turn from God ever further.

If he loves me he needs to see to my soul, not this mortal body.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:12:10 No.39689118
Christian religion: a bunch of dudes without any divine guidance proclaim to have the one and only truth over 4k denominations and all those other 3999 denominations are burning in hell for being demons. Obviously this one true denomination is yours, Lucky.

It seems obvious to me these people know not what a God is, much less are guided by one solely because of the multitude of religions and denominations. Yet they are surer of it than the Sun shines.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:11:47 No.39689343
>>39688873
You know I am right and you have nothing but anger.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:13:44 No.39689352
>>39689117
You cannot be diminished. Soul is immutable.
It sounds to me like you are the one confusing body for soul, not God.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)05:21:46 No.39689383
>>39688933
They are narcissists, this is common behaviour, they paint themselves as victims and try to make the other side evil.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:15:57 No.39689563
>>39689029
Nobody cares you vapid loser
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:17:10 No.39689566
1696328886650667
>>39689084
Sounds pretty evil! But I can say that, because such a thing exists to me. And you are it. Evil for you is when someone prevents you from doing whatever the fuck you want.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:18:11 No.39689570
>>39689343
No, I know that you're an idiot who knows nothing and that that talking to you is throwing pearls to swine.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:25:17 No.39689606
hmm
>>39689383
Indeed. This is why they and their insane mental gymnastics shouldn't be enabled.

>>39689563
We wouldn't be in a thread like this if that were true. Go to one of your christcuck containment threads if you don't like it.

https://youtu.be/usXhiWE2Uc0?si=5nIAN0GPYjEqG0Ne
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:32:40 No.39689637
Fo4LBeqXwAEAEaQ
>>39689606
No, I mean nobody cares about your opinion in particular. It's the same banal tripe that gets repeated ad nauseum by perpetually seething God-hating redditoids. Christians are narcissistic meany stupid heads who live in a delusional fantasy world are AKSHUALLY the evil ones! You dipshits have been talking the exact same way for the last 70 fucking years. You only believe what you do because you're a degenerate loser and don't like that Christianity convicts you of that. I have never in my entire life met anyone who talks like you do that isn't just a bundle of resentment and self obsession. You are one of millions of generic naval gazing psuedo-intellectuals with nothing of value to say, you will just talk in circles about how mean Christians are and how they have a scattershot of random bad-ism cluster B personality disorders. None of it is insightful. It doesn't matter, nobody cares. The world keeps turning. Christians still number in the billions. Oh but I'm sure, this time you'll get them. Yes, this will be the killshot for those dastardly christcucks/christofascists. For sure.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:36:26 No.39689661
>>39689606
Also your taste in music still blows. I can tell you at least have aspergers from it.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:37:08 No.39689666
>>39689606
Yep, just ignore them and thier spam. Just call them out then leave.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:38:22 No.39689673
>>39689666
Get thee behind me
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:44:59 No.39689700
1736481972731356
>>39689637
>>39689661
One for the road, just so you can say something distasteful about it.

https://youtu.be/qntBBbvgBxM?si=5U363BuCtlN6zGao

>>39689666
Good point, I can't help myself sometimes. I'm out.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:45:24 No.39689704
>>39688792
You're antropomorphising God, or rather, you're attributing to him the same flaws that normal people have.
God is perfect and unchanging, he doesn't have "whims", so your argument completely falls apart. Guess what is like God? Nothing. So nothing can give you objective good and evil apart from God.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:47:36 No.39689711
6999296
>>39689700
Bye, faggot!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:48:38 No.39689716
>>39686374
Satan doesn't give a shit about those things you mentioned. He hates God because God loves humanity. Literally the only reason Satan fell is because he was butthurt about the existence of humankind and now they live forever rentfree in his head. If you, a human, think he's a good guy that makes you automatically a cuck.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)06:51:40 No.39689734
>>39689118
There are infinite wrong religions, just like there are infinite wrong opinions. This isn't an argument against the fact one religion is true, or that truth exists.
Any other plebbit kindergarten-tier opinions from 2009 you want to throw at us?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:21:04 No.39689860
>>39689570
You are angry that I am right and you have no answer.
You cope about pearls when if you thought that you would never respond.
As you keep doing so. It only shows how angry you are, and how little you know.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:29:22 No.39689900
>>39689860
Of course I'm angry you stupid bitch. You're an annoying person. Does that make me incorrect? Or does that make you an unlikable smug internet loser who overestimates their own intelligence and depth of knowledge?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:37:38 No.39689941
>>39689900
The only annoyance is the phantom in your head reminding you that you have no response and can only yell.
You cant be correct or incorrect because you have given nothing to be correct or incorrect about.
You are a barking dog, and I find it fun to goad barking dogs.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:39:23 No.39689951
Stare
Wouldn't the "greatest trick ever pulled" be convincing everyone you were "god"?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:39:27 No.39689952
_e1b247b9-a9b4-4e4f-92d4-0628bff19aa4
>>39689673
>Get thee behind me daddy Satan
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:30:32 No.39690541
IMG_2246
>>39686374
>MAYBE SATAN ISN'T THE BAD GUY
YEAH, NO. HE IS OBJECTIVELY THE BAD GUY. BUT THAT IS ONLY BY GOD’S ALLOWING IT. FOR GOD TRUSTS IN YOU, HE’S EFFECTIVELY SAYING TO SATAN, “SO YOU THINK SO LITTLE OF MY CREATION, OF HUMANITY, THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN TEMPT THRM AWAY FROM THE LIGHT WITHIN? OK, BUT THEY’RE GOING TO PROVE YOU WRONG.”
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:32:22 No.39690551
>>39690541
Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:38:49 No.39690586
sad-odysseus
>>39690541
Satan? He is so much like you, father. Your bright son... you both made me want to serve you and then made me kill my dreams with my own hands...
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:39:50 No.39690589
>>39689734
And the guiding holy Spirit?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:39:56 No.39690590
>>39686374
Maybe Satans whole trick is to make a world like this and blame God for it.

Maybe if we kill the satanists we can see what happens when they’re gone
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:13:02 No.39690726
>>39690590
I wager if we kill abrahamic vermin it's when shit will go well
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:53:12 No.39690898
>>39689352
>God creates torture chamber but he's really a nice guy mkay?
The problem of suffering separates me from him.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:59:46 No.39690939
>>39690898
God gave us a place to be away from Him, as we desired.
You can leave the moment you want to.
You dont want to, you want to be the central enjoyer.
As you are not the center of existence, this desire is what causes suffering.
I agree that it is what causes you to at least think you are separate from God.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:16:56 No.39691029
>>39690939
>you can be away from me but I'll make it full of suffering
Again. Who is this God that I should love. Fear? Yes. Love? No.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:21:53 No.39691058
>>39691029
>I will let you go, but be warned you wont like it
Again - it is always 100% your choice to suffer.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:26:25 No.39691077
>>39691029
And before you reply to this with
>we suffer because we are away from God
Even my earthly parents gave me a room I could retreat to when I wanted to be separate from them. This room was comfortable. They loved me enough to keep a roof over my head and clothes even when I wanted to be alone. If my fallen parents can do this, why does God spitefully ensure that those away from him suffer? He could even make Hell a nice place. He's God. All of the problems of humanity and this fallen world are solely His responsibility. And I see no reason why a perfectly moral God couldn't end all suffering right now. He just watches and gets off on it.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:29:34 No.39691091
>>39691077
The dog from last night. It didn't want anything to do with me. But if I had the power, I would ensure it had a comfortable evening of warmth and food. The only reason I didn't give it those things was I lack the power. Having the power to do it, and choosing not to because the dog didn't want to be with me, is cruel and petty. I would rather God not exist than be the character he's portrayed as by his believers.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:35:18 No.39691121
>>39691077
>why does God spitefully ensure that those away from him suffer?
Not what is happening. God is taking no action, performing no "ensuring" with this.
It is your choice and action that causes the suffering.
>He could even make Hell a nice place.
There are places available for what you want, and you can go there if you want.
You dont want to.
>All of the problems of humanity and this fallen world are solely His responsibility.
Only in the sense that God provides you with what you want, and all of those ills are included in what you want.
>I see no reason why a perfectly moral God couldn't end all suffering right now.
Because that is not what you want.
>He just watches and gets off on it.
Yes, but there is no "just".
God sees all and enjoys all. He actually IS the central enjoyer.
See how that bothers you.
>I would ensure it had a comfortable evening of warmth and food.
That is your mistake. You want to end suffering, but you treat the body that will always fail and die.
You think the body suffers.
That is foolish.
>I would rather God not exist
And that is why God does not exist for you.
And why you suffer.
As I said - it is your choice.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:38:19 No.39691135
>>39691121
>is your choice and action that causes the suffering.
The dog chose to run away. If I were omnipotent I would give it comfort nonetheless. God can make all suffering end. Even for those away from him. This is a chickenshit point believers bring up to excuse a petty creator.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:39:33 No.39691141
>>39691121
>sees all and enjoys all
Including suffering. Ok. He's a psychopath
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:40:40 No.39691148
>>39691121
>You think the body suffers.
I could show you why it does but I'm not a cruel person. You'd be begging your god to release you from your pain if there were enough of it.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:43:15 No.39691163
>>39691135
>If I were omnipotent I would give it comfort nonetheless.
Yes. When you choose it. But you arent choosing it, you are choosing separation.
> God can make all suffering end.
Yes. All you have to do is ask, and listen.
>>39691141
>Including suffering.
There is no suffering for God.
>>39691148
>I could show you why it does
No, you could harm a body. Only I choose to suffer.
>You'd be begging your god to release you from your pain if there were enough of it.
No. I dont ask God for things. Ever.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:44:47 No.39691170
>>39691163
>there is no suffering for God
Ok so he's a boomer then?
>hey I'm comfy. I don't know what the problem is!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:46:25 No.39691182
>>39691170
But there isnt a problem.
Existence is perfect.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:46:37 No.39691184
>>39691163
>God can make all suffering end.
For everything. Without stipulation. He can do it right now. He doesn't care.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:47:27 No.39691188
>>39691184
>For everything. Without stipulation.
But there is stipulation.
You dont want that.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:50:03 No.39691204
>>39691182
>Existence is perfect.
This dog might be dead after suffering cold and starvation. And he's 1 dog. There's millions of animals and people suffering at this very moment. If this doesn't bother you, you lack compassion. If I have to give up compassion to be closer to an uncompassionate God who will only end MY suffering while allowing all the other suffering to still exist? He's no one worth knowing. Sounds like the elite in ivory towers who don't help the poor. The irony is the elite couldn't help everyone even with all their riches. An omnipotent God can choose to. He just holds his grace closely. I will never understand that. Because I have empathy.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:51:11 No.39691210
>>39691188
I can end my suffering by becoming a psycopsyh who can look upon others suffering and not care just like my god does. Wow what a guy I would be and what a guy this God is!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:53:02 No.39691227
>>39691210
I couldn't enjoy heaven knowing hell exists without giving up compassion. If that's the price of entry, fuck your god.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:54:56 No.39691245
>>39691204
>There's millions of animals and people suffering at this very moment.
There are infinite souls suffering. Eternally. They choose to.
>If this doesn't bother you, you lack compassion.
Of course it does, they shouldnt suffer. they still choose to.
>If
You dont.
>He just holds his grace closely.
Freely offered to all who want it. Urged to all who dont want it.
Still people choose no.
>>39691210
>I can end my suffering by becoming a psycopsyh
That would not end your suffering.
>>39691227
I have not spoken of heaven or hell - both are places full of suffering and are in this temporary realm.
Do you think I am Christian?
That's foolish.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:57:33 No.39691266
>>39691245
God is a pretty loaded word.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:59:43 No.39691281
>>39691245
>There are infinite souls suffering. Eternally. They choose to.
This breaks my heart and if I had the power I would end their suffering. I don't see how I can ever be ok with it all.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:04:14 No.39691305
>>39691266
Unlimited, Supreme Person. The Supreme Independent upon which all is eternally dependent.
>>39691281
>if I had the power I would end their suffering.
What if they didnt want you to?
You would enslave them? Completely remove any ability to will?
>I don't see how I can ever be ok with it all.
Because you are limited and think you are temporary and identify with this temporary realm.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:05:15 No.39691311
>>39691305
This will be my last post today.
Have a good night.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:08:59 No.39691320
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:09:16 No.39691323
>>39691305
It still seems like the price of admission is to lose my compassion. I still think I would comfort the suffering. Against their will. Yes. If my son were cutting himself I would stop him. And any reasonable human being would.

I can't be this "perfect being" who is ok with just chilling while suffering exists. And i think animal suffering is a special case for God. They don't even have a choice. He can make it for them.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:37:37 No.39692253
naw nigga its all a bunch of larping to grift people. i know jesus true meaning and he was a buddhist. this world is hell, and we get reincarnated unless we can accept and love everything in this world. that is enlightenment. i had it temporarily once. "bad" things happen because of soul contracts. say you were a bad guy last run, then you gotta be the victim of the same thing you did to others. so just remember, all those victims out there were bad guys. thus how you can love everything in the world.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:44:56 No.39692295
>>39686374
Satan is YHWHs loyal servant and serves as controlled opposition (Read Job). If you truly wish to oppose YHWH it is wiser to stand with one of the Pagan Gods (Odin, Ra, Zeus, etc).
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:48:07 No.39692323
>>39691245
But only in this life right? You can't ask for God's grace after death when the situation actually becomes apparent?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:59:15 No.39692374
>>39686415
its more like
>you want to play a games tournament (experiencing mortal life)
>a host (God) gives you a place to have your games in it (creation and earth)
>this place has a set time to be open and some rules you have to follow during the tournament and your game is scheduled at a certain time during it (your life)
>the host plays a game or two then says he has to check some other stuff but will be back by the end of the tournament (Christ)
>shitty girl comes in and ruins it
>players ys authority of host to get rid of shitty girl and other shity people (dispelling the devil/evil in the name of Christ)
>shithead simps decide to let girl back in through back door and break the rules (satan worshippers) because they are totally gonna get some pussy
>repeat ad infinitum until the end of the tournament and host comes back and gets a restraining order on the girl to not be allowed on the property again as well the cunts who continued to let her in for ruining the property
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:07:17 No.39692431
>>39692374
>Somehow an omnipotent GM is absent and unable to enforce the rules at the table
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:25:35 No.39692566
>>39692431
because the spirits of man wanted the game
God simply gave them a place to host it
think of it like a wedding hall people can rent and decorate themselves
does the owner really care completely how the ceremony goes?
no
they are not sitting there going no dont place a banner there, those tablecloths are tacky etc
there may be a few guidelines
it only really matters after the fact if something wrong happened that they account for it
we are the one that keeps inviting the devil and having him destroy parts of the hall that we are going to account for
we have the ability to cast him out
we dont do so
our unrighteousness continually opens the door back open to him
the commission is on our souls
its why the hall stays open
its why there isnt intervention
we are getting the time we paid for
and will pay for whatever damages we have incurred when it ends unless
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:27:33 No.39692576
>>39692566
>The owner doesn't really care
Thanks anon got it
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:36:39 No.39692638
>>39692566
Owner has a hands off approach. We can have tacky table clothes if we want. A murderous psychopath (that the owner created) can run around the hall killing people and it is our fault for letting them in. Lol
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:43:05 No.39692684
>>39692576
he does care
but the contract will be upheld
justice is always an after the fact thing
when can a wrong be righted?
only after the wrong is committed
a judgement will be given and accounting made when the time of rental has ended
if you are clear of liability or even in need of compensation for your experience it will be given
if you have broken the hall or harassed fellow game players a charge shall be given
a time is given for the rental of the hall
the son was there to give an account to the father of the goings on in the game hall
worry not about immediate justice, worry that you shall held in judgement at the end, do well, all shall be well, do evil, and all given to you will be evil
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:45:01 No.39692699
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>>39686374
he IS the bad guy, you idiot - don't fall for his tricks!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:48:09 No.39692729
>>39692638
this very thread is in question if the murderous psychopath is not evil for killing people
maybe you have not let him in but your fellow men have
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:53:58 No.39692770
>>39686374
Satan of course does not care if you worship him or not, because he just wants you cut off from God.

also how does God feed off suffering or loss, that makes no sense?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:59:50 No.39692820
>>39692684
I like how you pretend the "fee" that some of us are going to pay us is some trivial thing. Supposedly the cost is our immortal soul.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:02:57 No.39692845
>>39692729
Satanists are idiots anon, you'll get no argument from me. If my fellow man let in a psycho killer from the doorstep I would still wonder how he got to the doorstep when supposedly he was apprehended and in prison.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:06:56 No.39692875
>>39688758
This.
No he just punishes anons who have gay sex and those who break the ten laws

Why is he hated?
No one wants to be punished for their sins.
So understand able.
>Satan is the good guy
No I only bought gnosis then I left man kind to its own devices. I hardly call that "good"

But if you want to see it that way. Whatever

T. 555
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:07:50 No.39692882
>>39692684
>Justice can't be immediate
If you are in the building with a school shooter and have a gun yourself and a clean shot at him and don't take it you are either evil or incompetent. God is the Ulvalde police department.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:14:29 No.39692932
>>39692882
This. Satan name is love but he is the angel justice. If you see evil you must destroy it otherwise your helping a sinner.
The ten laws. In this case thou shalt not murder is broken you won't get bad karma for destroying a rule breaker but only thou shalt not murder can you destroy the the rule breaker.

But if you can try the peaceful methods Frist unless it's a direct threat of murder to an anon.
But things like shoot shooters are not random look for the signs in outcasts and get them help.

Murders don't just happen out of the blue
Satan represents law enforcement for good or bad.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:20:07 No.39692964
>>39692932
Holy AI prompt was that bad
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:48:00 No.39693957
>>39691323
>It still seems like the price of admission is to lose my compassion.
I disagree.
> I still think I would comfort the suffering. Against their will. Yes.
That is where I have more compassion than you. I wouldnt lobotomize and enslave people just because I thought it was better.
That sounds like the opposite of compassion - it's nothing but ego and selfishness.
>I can't be this "perfect being" who is ok with just chilling while suffering exists.
But you arent chilling. You are actively choosing suffering at every moment.
You WANT suffering.
>They don't even have a choice.
Those souls make the exact same choice you do.
You have been in those animal bodies as well.
>>39692323
No. You have as long as you want here.
>>39692374
>this place has a set time to be open and some rules you have to follow during the tournament and your game is scheduled at a certain time during it (your life)
I disagee.
>Christ
I am not Christian.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:29:15 No.39694205
>>39693957
>I am not a Christian
Don't matter. You're some kind of God believing stupid justifying the evil of this world.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:32:40 No.39694231
59d046c5723b9ed2f6ace9d8eebeddfb
>>39686374
ok genuine question for christians/Catholics.

isn't satan supposed to be stuck in like the 7th ring of hell trapped in ice? so if that's the case how the fuck can he influence the mortal plane?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:34:29 No.39694242
>>39694231
>isn't satan supposed to be stuck in like the 7th ring of hell trapped in ice?
Dante's comedy isn't Catholic dogma
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:36:07 No.39694248
>>39694242
ok so is satan imprisoned in hell? or no? because ive heard conflicting things.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:37:44 No.39694261
>>39694231
What do you think they’ve been up to in Antarctica?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:39:29 No.39694267
>>39694248
>so is satan imprisoned in hell?
No he is not. When he fell, he fell to earth. When Christ resurrected he emptied hell, he didn't lock satan in it.
In general he grows "more powerful" as we approach armageddon, but that's just because people become more wicked.
Satan will be stuck in the lake of fire after the apocalypse, just like the other damned souls.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:41:28 No.39694280
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:42:38 No.39694287
>>39693957
>you arent chilling.
My point was this God is chilling.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:43:55 No.39694299
>>39694267
oh ok thanks.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:46:10 No.39694312
>>39694299
Satan has a lot less power since the resurrection, and he is "locked" in the sense that God stops him from hurting people (save for particular exceptions). That's why he has to tempt people, he is not allowed to do more than that.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:47:02 No.39694319
What people refer to as "satan" is a result of Zoastrian dualisms influence on Canaanite polytheism. An ancient conflict between the semitic peoples and the protoindoeuropeans.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:49:24 No.39694328
>>39694319
Christianity does not believe in dualism. Satan is not an equal and opposite force to God, he is just a created being that rejected truth, just like any human that rejects the Gospel.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:55:16 No.39694365
>>39694205
It does because all of your conceptions and models are going to be off.
Evil is a judgement. You can always decide something is evil.
>>39694287
God is continually offering and urging you to stop suffering.
It's still your choice.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:55:51 No.39694369
>>39694319
>>39694328
I'll elaborate further. In Christianity it isn't "true vs false", but rather there is the fullness of truth (Christ), and then there's a perversion of the truth (sin). That's why you have homos trying to get married, or people say it's ok for poor people to be violent druggies. There is always an element of truth and good (in this case romantic affection and empathy), but it's poisoned by varying degrees of sin and deception (depraved sex acts and weakness towards violence).
The more deceived and sinful you are, the more you fall into a mockery of your your purpose and therefore a mockery of Christ.
Sin literally means "missing the mark" because it reflects this idea.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)20:13:08 No.39694473
>>39694231
And yet hell apologists will say hell was created for Lucifer and his fallen angels not man. Truth is anon the Bible doesn't adequately explain the existence of Satan despite his importance. The contradictions come because an Apocryphal story does explain it. It's the book of Enoch if you didn't know and in it Lucifer and his angels are indeed imprisoned in hell which contradicts the snake in the garden (second and most important story in the cannon Bible). Jesus quotes the Book of Enoch and even got the title "son of man" from. Despite this the book is still Apocryphal in most Christian sects and if you read it you will know why.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)20:23:17 No.39694535
>>39694328
>>39694369
Zoroastrianism's influence on Judaism still stand. The Cananites were not concerned with "sin" the way modern sects are. Read Job to get a taste of what they believed before the Zoroastrian influence.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)20:25:21 No.39694545
>>39686374
he's just a little guy
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)20:25:41 No.39694547