Biokinesis/Bodily transformation General
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)09:16:44 | 257 comments | 97 images
I see quite a bit of interest in this topic and i wanna start a new general for this topic.
In this thread: post convincing evidence, results, methods for changing one's own body. Be it for beauty or performance. Through paranormal means. Deity work, Practices, Hypnotherapy, LoA, Chaos Magick, whatever it may be, throw it at me and if possible post proof (either text messages or body, or proof of what you changed).
In this thread: post convincing evidence, results, methods for changing one's own body. Be it for beauty or performance. Through paranormal means. Deity work, Practices, Hypnotherapy, LoA, Chaos Magick, whatever it may be, throw it at me and if possible post proof (either text messages or body, or proof of what you changed).
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)09:26:42 No.39585311
Looking to supercharge your genetics and ascend the ladder? The elites are already doing this and the new vaccines was beta testing for CRISPR and advancing their knowhow, if you think genetic editing isnt already normal for those who have the power you are a retard
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)09:57:14 No.39585442
Gym Magicka and Diet Magicka
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)10:18:50 No.39585549
>>39585311
That doesnt alter the past buddy.
That doesnt alter the past buddy.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)16:42:40 No.39587425
>>39585262
With meditation and I suppose you could consider the belief aspect of chaos magick in tune I had visualized my genes rapidly changing and mutating as according to the paradigm that they would mutate normally. I transitioned my elbows from double jointedness to single jointedness. For years I had to use visualization to reconnect, refurbish, and change my nerves in order to prevent things like my nerves trying to contract my muscles to the point of breaking the new locked single-jointed elbows. Sometimes I think I might have caused some nerve damage because I didn't really know what I was doing when altering my genes. I didn't know what to keep, add, or throw away, or even if I could do any of those things beyond hijacking a natural process and brute forcing it in the body.
With meditation and I suppose you could consider the belief aspect of chaos magick in tune I had visualized my genes rapidly changing and mutating as according to the paradigm that they would mutate normally. I transitioned my elbows from double jointedness to single jointedness. For years I had to use visualization to reconnect, refurbish, and change my nerves in order to prevent things like my nerves trying to contract my muscles to the point of breaking the new locked single-jointed elbows. Sometimes I think I might have caused some nerve damage because I didn't really know what I was doing when altering my genes. I didn't know what to keep, add, or throw away, or even if I could do any of those things beyond hijacking a natural process and brute forcing it in the body.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)17:04:52 No.39587571
>>39585262
Any proof you get probably is LARP but I wish I could verify it myself firsthand
>>39585311
>Looking to supercharge your genetics and ascend the ladder?
Yeah but I also want to go boobs, shrink my height, and turn into a girl on the way lol
Any proof you get probably is LARP but I wish I could verify it myself firsthand
>>39585311
>Looking to supercharge your genetics and ascend the ladder?
Yeah but I also want to go boobs, shrink my height, and turn into a girl on the way lol
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)17:16:26 No.39587639
>>39585262
Yeah it's easy! Just straighten your spine and clear your chakra points first so that your entire body is more in tune.
Then focus on a point in your body and imagine that energy is flowing into that area. Visualize how you want your body to be.
The rest is up to you. Do you truly believe it will happen? Do you want to keep going? Do you see results? Did you clear your mind of clutter and truly focus?
No chaos or magick needed.
No pills. Just you, your breathing and your thoughts.
Yeah it's easy! Just straighten your spine and clear your chakra points first so that your entire body is more in tune.
Then focus on a point in your body and imagine that energy is flowing into that area. Visualize how you want your body to be.
The rest is up to you. Do you truly believe it will happen? Do you want to keep going? Do you see results? Did you clear your mind of clutter and truly focus?
No chaos or magick needed.
No pills. Just you, your breathing and your thoughts.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)17:58:11 No.39587853
>>39585311
People who are evil and devoid of empathy have zero magic capability and are extremely vulnerable to psychic attacks.
They have magick proxies, aka. they have witches who protect them for a price. Those witches give their life force in exchange for the money made from those endevours. When you attack elites, that energy is blocked by the witches.
People who are evil and devoid of empathy have zero magic capability and are extremely vulnerable to psychic attacks.
They have magick proxies, aka. they have witches who protect them for a price. Those witches give their life force in exchange for the money made from those endevours. When you attack elites, that energy is blocked by the witches.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)20:51:36 No.39588914
Active Dreaming: The Key to Power by Robert Balthazaar shows a way to change your body by using lucid dreaming as a medium to make real physical changes upon the body.
Its a short book that you can finish in a single sitting however it focuses more on practical exercises and less on theory.
Im still working on it myself but one of the first things i will do once i lucid dream daily is attempting to make bodily changes. If this thread ends up being a general i may post updates.
Its a short book that you can finish in a single sitting however it focuses more on practical exercises and less on theory.
Im still working on it myself but one of the first things i will do once i lucid dream daily is attempting to make bodily changes. If this thread ends up being a general i may post updates.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)20:54:14 No.39588926
HRT works wonders
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)21:29:51 No.39589067
(1/2)
Told myself i would try this thing last year and then completely forgot about it until now. It's not like i'm in desperate need of it, or maybe i was just too lazy.
If i'm not wrong, in that very thread someone talked about coupling this with the Angion method, of which i tried out once and imo it seems like a better option to aggressively pulling your dick to make it grow.
Told myself i would try this thing last year and then completely forgot about it until now. It's not like i'm in desperate need of it, or maybe i was just too lazy.
If i'm not wrong, in that very thread someone talked about coupling this with the Angion method, of which i tried out once and imo it seems like a better option to aggressively pulling your dick to make it grow.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)21:33:24 No.39589086
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)22:04:53 No.39589247
I've been thinking about this for a while, for now all I have is the basics of chaos magick and LoA among a couple rituals that I'm saving as a last resort. Basically want I want to achieve is a reboot on my life with the body of my choosing
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)22:08:24 No.39589262
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)22:21:08 No.39589303
>>39588914
Read this book but it describes a long timescale pertaining to a single body. Not OP but I'm not sure if it can be used to give me what I really want, which is on-demand shapeshifting.
Read this book but it describes a long timescale pertaining to a single body. Not OP but I'm not sure if it can be used to give me what I really want, which is on-demand shapeshifting.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)22:24:41 No.39589319
you will never be a woman
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)22:48:33 No.39589407
>>39588914
can you share the book?
can you share the book?
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)23:10:29 No.39589511
>>39589407
Just google it. There are plenty of sites that have it.
Here's one link for it since I hate gatekeeping faggots that infest this site like flies on shit.
https://pdfcoffee.com/active-dreaming-by-robert-balthazaar-pdf-free.html
Just google it. There are plenty of sites that have it.
Here's one link for it since I hate gatekeeping faggots that infest this site like flies on shit.
https://pdfcoffee.com/active-dreami
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)23:12:46 No.39589529
>>39589511
>https://pdfcoffee.com/active-dreaming-by-robert-balthazaar-pdf-free.html
You're a blessing anon
>https://pdfcoffee.com/active-dream
You're a blessing anon
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)23:35:12 No.39589640
Read Universal Line materials in /loa/. You can get a brand new vessel to your liking or being younger self.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)00:17:37 No.39589824
>>39585262
>Be it for beauty
since you went here first - physiognomy 101 - for the next 2 years, think no thoughts that are not beautiful
>Be it for beauty
since you went here first - physiognomy 101 - for the next 2 years, think no thoughts that are not beautiful
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)02:22:53 No.39590251
>>39589640
Mmmm confused and lost... what is all of that
Mmmm confused and lost... what is all of that
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)03:25:53 No.39590430
>>39590251
Explanation how reality works on the deepest level, although I recommend his older works like I am totality PDF
Explanation how reality works on the deepest level, although I recommend his older works like I am totality PDF
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)04:00:57 No.39590523
>>39585262
If you starve yourself and otherwise suffer a lot of stress you can trigger epigenetic conversion for better problem solving skills
If you starve yourself and otherwise suffer a lot of stress you can trigger epigenetic conversion for better problem solving skills
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)13:55:06 No.39592815
>>39585262
I was planning on trying to use transcranial electrostimulation to alter my mind and body, then it occurred to me to use it to see if I could improve precognition or probability manipulation, which would be useful enough to prioritize. My only problem is figuring out where I'd need to place the electrodes (I only have so many output channels I can work with right now) to actually effect a psychic ability like that.
/x/ gave me some suggestions already for where it would be best to place the electrodes, but it seemed like someone was very indirectly telling me that the placement of the electrodes doesn't matter, either because I'll just fail no matter what I try (typical 4chan) or that it it simply wouldn't matter as long as the electrostimulation happens somewhere on the body, as long as I do it right.
I was planning on trying to use transcranial electrostimulation to alter my mind and body, then it occurred to me to use it to see if I could improve precognition or probability manipulation, which would be useful enough to prioritize. My only problem is figuring out where I'd need to place the electrodes (I only have so many output channels I can work with right now) to actually effect a psychic ability like that.
/x/ gave me some suggestions already for where it would be best to place the electrodes, but it seemed like someone was very indirectly telling me that the placement of the electrodes doesn't matter, either because I'll just fail no matter what I try (typical 4chan) or that it it simply wouldn't matter as long as the electrostimulation happens somewhere on the body, as long as I do it right.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)17:17:31 No.39594047
Do rituals also count? If so then you can literally just bathe in blood, depending on who's blood is it and the amount of blood you will inherent some aspects from the blood's owner.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)17:26:36 No.39594099
>>39589067
>>39589086
I’m surprised that people don’t realise that dick growing techniques and magic are literally in the Kama Sutra.
>>39594047
I do wonder this before, I maybe have performed a certain ritual that lasted about 6 months down a similar query that the OP is asking about. I feel like anything that could possible happen can be altered with a ritual although I’m wary of saying that you can do a ritual and become 8’3. Although physical cultivation can have let’s say some possibly interesting effects on your physical body and all it’s various aspects.
Sorry about being vague, I just don’t like sharing too much about ritual and occult stuff performed, is it bad mojo to talk about a ritual?
>>39589086
I’m surprised that people don’t realise that dick growing techniques and magic are literally in the Kama Sutra.
>>39594047
I do wonder this before, I maybe have performed a certain ritual that lasted about 6 months down a similar query that the OP is asking about. I feel like anything that could possible happen can be altered with a ritual although I’m wary of saying that you can do a ritual and become 8’3. Although physical cultivation can have let’s say some possibly interesting effects on your physical body and all it’s various aspects.
Sorry about being vague, I just don’t like sharing too much about ritual and occult stuff performed, is it bad mojo to talk about a ritual?
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)17:30:50 No.39594118
>>39592815
Do you have the device already?
If not don't waste time overthinking position, start with basic ones. This is one of those empirical things, people who fantasize and procrastinate Will get disappointed.
Do you have the device already?
If not don't waste time overthinking position, start with basic ones. This is one of those empirical things, people who fantasize and procrastinate Will get disappointed.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)17:57:08 No.39594260
>>39592903
Thanks for the video.
>Power and impedance alters the placement, and is different from person to person because of head size/volume.
And things are tricky because I'm not entirely sure what part of the brain I should even bother to target. I was considering just putting it on my ears and hoping that'd be good enough.
>>39594118
>Do you have the device already?
No. Physically building it is simple enough as long as the output voltage and amperage is regulated so it can't be too dangerous. Writing the actual genetic algorithm that I'd like to use is the real hurdle, because I can't program for shit.
>>39594099
>I’m surprised that people don’t realise that dick growing techniques and magic are literally in the Kama Sutra.
Okay, so what's the frequency? 69Hz?
Thanks for the video.
>Power and impedance alters the placement, and is different from person to person because of head size/volume.
And things are tricky because I'm not entirely sure what part of the brain I should even bother to target. I was considering just putting it on my ears and hoping that'd be good enough.
>>39594118
>Do you have the device already?
No. Physically building it is simple enough as long as the output voltage and amperage is regulated so it can't be too dangerous. Writing the actual genetic algorithm that I'd like to use is the real hurdle, because I can't program for shit.
>>39594099
>I’m surprised that people don’t realise that dick growing techniques and magic are literally in the Kama Sutra.
Okay, so what's the frequency? 69Hz?
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)22:38:29 No.39595791
Garrote 01/09/25(Thu)04:30:15 No.39597107
This is evidence (NSFW):
https://arquismo.neocities.org/biokinesis/image%20(11).png
https://arquismo.neocities.org/biok
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)06:05:19 No.39597429
>>39595791
On Sexual Union" (Samprayogika), Chapter 2, titled "On the Various Means of Enlarging the Lingam”.
Although I would recommend to read the work in It’s Entirety as it you will miss certain points.
On Sexual Union" (Samprayogika), Chapter 2, titled "On the Various Means of Enlarging the Lingam”.
Although I would recommend to read the work in It’s Entirety as it you will miss certain points.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)06:07:56 No.39597435
>>39594260
see >>39597429
You ever got a ritual to change physical genetic attributes? I find it seems to sometimes only work on the changeable or fate. This is from my Six-month ritual.
see >>39597429
You ever got a ritual to change physical genetic attributes? I find it seems to sometimes only work on the changeable or fate. This is from my Six-month ritual.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)06:34:14 No.39597520
>>39597107
What is the page? Are there other examples?
What is the page? Are there other examples?
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)07:32:51 No.39597741
>>39589086
>>39589067
I wonder if this can be useful to also change facial structure or height/shoulder width
>>39589067
I wonder if this can be useful to also change facial structure or height/shoulder width
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)07:58:41 No.39597854
I LIFT THE WEIGHTS WITH MY MIIIIND AAAAAAAAAAGHH IM BIOKINESISING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)10:26:39 No.39598453
How do I grow my dick AND become a hot girl
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)13:20:04 No.39599393
>>39587853
Why don't the witches take over if they are stronger than the elites?
Why don't the witches take over if they are stronger than the elites?
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)16:34:21 No.39600219
>>39597429
Unless I've misread it, it's a bad translation, or something's missing, the methods of enlarging the "Lingam" seem about as effective as getting a bunch of bee stings on your dick so it swells up. I really don't think slathering your dick with blister agents is the safest or most effective method of getting a bigger dick.
Unless I've misread it, it's a bad translation, or something's missing, the methods of enlarging the "Lingam" seem about as effective as getting a bunch of bee stings on your dick so it swells up. I really don't think slathering your dick with blister agents is the safest or most effective method of getting a bigger dick.
ala 01/09/25(Thu)17:11:27 No.39600421
there has been empirical evidence that hypnosis does indeed produce physical changes, but the research into it has been extremely scant. there is for instance research on stimulating breast growth here:
https://doi.org/10.1080/00224497409550865
https://doi.org/10.1080/00029157.1977.10403875
though this result is not very interesting to me personally which is somewhat sad as there doesn't seem to be many other articles on this subject
something i am interested in is ways to perhaps make the process faster and more effective. i recall garrote mentioning the krebbs cycle before. this is an interesting idea. you can probably improve this by taking supplements which optimize your mitochondria such as ginkgo biloba. physical exercise is also an effective practice along these lines as well. something i wonder about is whether some nootropics might help, not just for helping to stimulate optimal states of consciousness, but also because of the role of the nervous system in morphogenesis. it seems that noreprinephrine and acetycholine are important in for stimulating bone remodelling for instance
also im not only interested in biokinesis but extending it to a full on contemplative and magical practice inspired by sarkicism. on the contemplative side of things, philosophical speculation has lead me to the belief that mind and body are far more continuous with one another than is typically believed and within the body there is a marriage between plasticity and transcendental structures of consciousness. to delve into the body and explore the flesh dimension is something that seems to be worth doing on its own. on the magic side of things there is biokinesis and apotheosis
here is a preliminary document collecting influences worth looking into further as well some practical contemplative exercises (not all of them biokinesis related ofc):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vShFz5cyM9oOzUxwIYWRM0RGxOJnhc9FXYDvGJa3-degKHEcQ5twizjwx4zTkYhufXnvT1BugnYApyK/pub
https://doi.org/10.1080/00224497409
https://doi.org/10.1080/00029157.19
though this result is not very interesting to me personally which is somewhat sad as there doesn't seem to be many other articles on this subject
something i am interested in is ways to perhaps make the process faster and more effective. i recall garrote mentioning the krebbs cycle before. this is an interesting idea. you can probably improve this by taking supplements which optimize your mitochondria such as ginkgo biloba. physical exercise is also an effective practice along these lines as well. something i wonder about is whether some nootropics might help, not just for helping to stimulate optimal states of consciousness, but also because of the role of the nervous system in morphogenesis. it seems that noreprinephrine and acetycholine are important in for stimulating bone remodelling for instance
also im not only interested in biokinesis but extending it to a full on contemplative and magical practice inspired by sarkicism. on the contemplative side of things, philosophical speculation has lead me to the belief that mind and body are far more continuous with one another than is typically believed and within the body there is a marriage between plasticity and transcendental structures of consciousness. to delve into the body and explore the flesh dimension is something that seems to be worth doing on its own. on the magic side of things there is biokinesis and apotheosis
here is a preliminary document collecting influences worth looking into further as well some practical contemplative exercises (not all of them biokinesis related ofc):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)17:20:05 No.39600468
Bumperino subliminals and Morphic fields are extremely helpful
ala 01/09/25(Thu)18:00:17 No.39600726
>>39592815
searching around i found this article which might be interesting:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.2023.10.016
i would also suggest exciting the parietal lobes. they are important for proprioception. the precuneus within the parietal lobes is important for introspection and aspects consciousness. parietal lobe excitation may help to stop you from using the medial middle frontal lobe if you master thinking with your parietal lobes (e.g. kinesthetically). it might be fruitful to look into areas of the brain related to interoception as well such as the insula and anterior cingulate cortex. imo interoception is very key for "energy work". i would suggest meditation as well though since increasing interoception just like that could easily lead to neurosis. you want to be able to handle the ride before you start making it drive 300 mph lol
searching around i found this article which might be interesting:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.20
i would also suggest exciting the parietal lobes. they are important for proprioception. the precuneus within the parietal lobes is important for introspection and aspects consciousness. parietal lobe excitation may help to stop you from using the medial middle frontal lobe if you master thinking with your parietal lobes (e.g. kinesthetically). it might be fruitful to look into areas of the brain related to interoception as well such as the insula and anterior cingulate cortex. imo interoception is very key for "energy work". i would suggest meditation as well though since increasing interoception just like that could easily lead to neurosis. you want to be able to handle the ride before you start making it drive 300 mph lol
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)18:01:21 No.39600732
>>39598453
Same
Same
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)18:09:35 No.39600776
>>39589067
>>39589086
>>39588914
>>39600421
Can I use all that shit, to get a 10\10 Male Face? Im already working very hard to do semen retention, exercise, eat very healthy, drink a lot of water, sleep good, etc
>>39589086
>>39588914
>>39600421
Can I use all that shit, to get a 10\10 Male Face? Im already working very hard to do semen retention, exercise, eat very healthy, drink a lot of water, sleep good, etc
ala 01/09/25(Thu)18:25:36 No.39600870
>>39600776
probably. i included it in the document, but here is garrote's writings as well:
https://arquismo.neocities.org/biokinesis/thebiokinesisprocess.txt
as he seems to display some of clearest concrete results, it may be useful to put extra focus on his ideas here. also self-hypnosis too. i recall some google drive of accounts talking about increasing height + tips and such but i do not remember where. if i find it ill post it in this general sometime
one suggestion that may be perhaps helpful: having a sharper idea of what proportional changes you'd like to have for your face might be more fruitful rather than some vague idea of "attractiveness".
probably. i included it in the document, but here is garrote's writings as well:
https://arquismo.neocities.org/biok
as he seems to display some of clearest concrete results, it may be useful to put extra focus on his ideas here. also self-hypnosis too. i recall some google drive of accounts talking about increasing height + tips and such but i do not remember where. if i find it ill post it in this general sometime
one suggestion that may be perhaps helpful: having a sharper idea of what proportional changes you'd like to have for your face might be more fruitful rather than some vague idea of "attractiveness".
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)18:58:51 No.39601036
>>39600870
do you know if that stuff about "mirrors\cameras take your picture deformed" is true? How can I get my own reference portrait?
I have an old Nokia photo camera, a digital one, and luckily my bathroom has a 3-pronged mirror ,so I could reflect one mirror upon another, and photograph the reflection's reflection
I read somewhere that, doing such an arrangement makes the picture have the correct measurements
do you know if that stuff about "mirrors\cameras take your picture deformed" is true? How can I get my own reference portrait?
I have an old Nokia photo camera, a digital one, and luckily my bathroom has a 3-pronged mirror ,so I could reflect one mirror upon another, and photograph the reflection's reflection
I read somewhere that, doing such an arrangement makes the picture have the correct measurements
ala 01/09/25(Thu)19:16:32 No.39601152
>>39601036
it is sort of true though i think it is a matter of perspective. you can reduce distortion by increasing the distance between your face and the camera. if a mirror is flat i dont think there should be much distortion. personally when i want to get a "selfie" that is as objective, i just take photo of my face as it is reflected by a standing/hanging mirror as i can increase my distance from it more than stretching out my arms. i also try not to angle my face to get a straight up view of facial proportions though it may be fruitful to do certain angle if you are comparing your face with someone else's photo and looking for proportional differences there
it is sort of true though i think it is a matter of perspective. you can reduce distortion by increasing the distance between your face and the camera. if a mirror is flat i dont think there should be much distortion. personally when i want to get a "selfie" that is as objective, i just take photo of my face as it is reflected by a standing/hanging mirror as i can increase my distance from it more than stretching out my arms. i also try not to angle my face to get a straight up view of facial proportions though it may be fruitful to do certain angle if you are comparing your face with someone else's photo and looking for proportional differences there
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)20:35:16 No.39601461
>>39600870
>he seems to display some of clearest concrete results,
Sorry what? All I saw of his results was a before-after where he lost maybe 500 grams and turned on room lights above his head. What of him did you think looked better? I'm not even a hater of biokinesis to be clear. But that guy hardly changed. Last year I started affirming, including for weight loss, and something about it stuck, I lost my appetite for food and I lost 7kg in a month effortlessly and kept it off. Even that was not a miracle manifestation, but still years ahead of this guy...
>he seems to display some of clearest concrete results,
Sorry what? All I saw of his results was a before-after where he lost maybe 500 grams and turned on room lights above his head. What of him did you think looked better? I'm not even a hater of biokinesis to be clear. But that guy hardly changed. Last year I started affirming, including for weight loss, and something about it stuck, I lost my appetite for food and I lost 7kg in a month effortlessly and kept it off. Even that was not a miracle manifestation, but still years ahead of this guy...
ala 01/09/25(Thu)21:25:19 No.39601707
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)21:37:20 No.39601769
>>39601707
That's just he got a boner and more blood flowed into his dick in the after photo. He's not very convincing sorry
That's just he got a boner and more blood flowed into his dick in the after photo. He's not very convincing sorry
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)23:56:56 No.39602445
>>39600421
The Bergson on the reading list here is actually not bad. I didn't expect I'd get anything out of philosophy, and yet.
The Bergson on the reading list here is actually not bad. I didn't expect I'd get anything out of philosophy, and yet.
ala 01/10/25(Fri)01:25:38 No.39602877
>>39602445
yeah, bergson especially has some rather practical ideas. matter and memory especially is a marriage of metaphysics and psychology, though the significance of his approach to speculative thought often goes overlooked. i believe philosophy can be generally used for contemplative practice if you approach it the right way. see for instance lectio divina, or reading the work in a way such that it is not just an intellectual but aesthetic experience which washes over and transforms you. of course a full on grimoire would be a great way to synthesize the philosophical, aesthetic, and practical together. i've yet to make something like that though
>>39601769
i guess that is a possible counter-hypothesis. penis length is volatile like that. though it should be said that that increased blood flow could itself be a biokinetic effect. if you are still not convinced, try self-hypnosis instead.
yeah, bergson especially has some rather practical ideas. matter and memory especially is a marriage of metaphysics and psychology, though the significance of his approach to speculative thought often goes overlooked. i believe philosophy can be generally used for contemplative practice if you approach it the right way. see for instance lectio divina, or reading the work in a way such that it is not just an intellectual but aesthetic experience which washes over and transforms you. of course a full on grimoire would be a great way to synthesize the philosophical, aesthetic, and practical together. i've yet to make something like that though
>>39601769
i guess that is a possible counter-hypothesis. penis length is volatile like that. though it should be said that that increased blood flow could itself be a biokinetic effect. if you are still not convinced, try self-hypnosis instead.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)02:39:00 No.39603189
>>39602877
Are you the one who put together that google docs page?
>a full on grimoire would be a great way to synthesize the philosophical, aesthetic, and practical together. i've yet to make something like that though
I feel like that's the kind of project that would also be a spiritually beneficial experience for you yourself, whether you ended up sharing it on here or not
Are you the one who put together that google docs page?
>a full on grimoire would be a great way to synthesize the philosophical, aesthetic, and practical together. i've yet to make something like that though
I feel like that's the kind of project that would also be a spiritually beneficial experience for you yourself, whether you ended up sharing it on here or not
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)03:56:39 No.39603400
>>39601036
>"mirrors\cameras take your picture deformed"
They always will. Photography is all about manipulating those characteristics to either eliminate those effects or to enhance them to get the intended effects.
Field-of-view (FOV) is the main one you'll want to achieve a reference view. As anon stated, distance between the target and sensor largely fixes this issue.
>>39602877
>penis length is volatile like that
NTA but male enhancement is full of scams and dubious claims. I'd say nearly all of them are. The burden of proof is great as a result. It would take some mythical gains, with a reliable, non-deforming method to even try to crack the doubt, along side a reference record that is hard to trick with a camera.
>"mirrors\cameras take your picture deformed"
They always will. Photography is all about manipulating those characteristics to either eliminate those effects or to enhance them to get the intended effects.
Field-of-view (FOV) is the main one you'll want to achieve a reference view. As anon stated, distance between the target and sensor largely fixes this issue.
>>39602877
>penis length is volatile like that
NTA but male enhancement is full of scams and dubious claims. I'd say nearly all of them are. The burden of proof is great as a result. It would take some mythical gains, with a reliable, non-deforming method to even try to crack the doubt, along side a reference record that is hard to trick with a camera.
Bitchdoctor 01/10/25(Fri)04:04:55 No.39603426
>>39585262
I have fibro and need to use Biokinesis to just not yell at people. cant cure the fibro with it, i have tried. ask me anything.
I have fibro and need to use Biokinesis to just not yell at people. cant cure the fibro with it, i have tried. ask me anything.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)04:49:00 No.39603565
BTW Ala, can "extreme" changes such as eye color, skin tone, hair color ,occur within -say- one year's time? If a couple of hours of daily practice are put into it.
I know there are charts with numbers-letters signalling types of hair, eye color, skin tone, hair color..I think those will help a lot.
I know there are charts with numbers-letters signalling types of hair, eye color, skin tone, hair color..I think those will help a lot.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)04:52:27 No.39603574
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)05:18:14 No.39603654
>>39603574
De-su, that's a little vague. If I read the linked pastebin and it's links ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vShFz5cyM9oOzUxwIYWRM0RGxOJnhc9FXYDvGJa3-degKHEcQ5twizjwx4zTkYhufXnvT1BugnYApyK/pub) + do semen retention, lucid dreaming, Gateway Process..if I do all that: I shall surely reach my goal?
Yeah?
De-su, that's a little vague. If I read the linked pastebin and it's links ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/
Yeah?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)06:18:47 No.39603902
>>39603654
It's vague yeah. I'll explain more. If you master UL in /LoA/ you will be able to have any of these physical changes instantly-to-near instant
the truth is, all these changes already exist in pure potentiality, you just need to realize that, and them you'll morph. Black hair to blonde hair. Blue eyes to red eyes. 5'2 to 6'6. It does not matter
It's vague yeah. I'll explain more. If you master UL in /LoA/ you will be able to have any of these physical changes instantly-to-near instant
the truth is, all these changes already exist in pure potentiality, you just need to realize that, and them you'll morph. Black hair to blonde hair. Blue eyes to red eyes. 5'2 to 6'6. It does not matter
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)06:30:31 No.39603948
>>39601152
thanks fren.
Do you have any suggestions as regards using AI generators\ photo modifiers, for designing my perfect desired look\face\aesthetics?
thanks fren.
Do you have any suggestions as regards using AI generators\ photo modifiers, for designing my perfect desired look\face\aesthetics?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)08:38:05 No.39604301
also, bump just in case
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)08:53:21 No.39604358
>>39589640
Which part?
Which part?
ala 01/10/25(Fri)15:36:12 No.39606550
>>39603189
>Are you the one who put together that google docs page?
yup i am. thanks for the advice anon.
>>39603565
iirc the height documents talked about rather significant changes in height within a year and a half. the limiting factor there was the rate at which your bones can actually remodel themselves. i am not sure about other features.
>>39603948
srry im not very well-versed in the way of the mekhanite. i know that photoshop has the liquify tool which might be handy for messing around with body proportions. if you dont want to buy it, you can search up alternatives that also have liquify. you can sometimes also just really coarse editing like box selecting and such to reduce the length of a feature. something that helps other than having a bunch of tools is to also get a good idea of what are ideal proportions for men which you can then compare to yourself. there a bunch of resources floating around for this from art to channels focused on aesthetics to incels complaining about stuff
visualization i believe is important. learning how to draw and stuff might help you get a better sense of proportion too which would let you work with stuff more intuitively. actually i am not sure i mentioned it elsewhere, but you want to not just be able to have an intuitive idea of how such and such change can effect how you look, but also have an internal idea of how your body would feel like if it shifted/was shifting into those proportions
>>39603902
do you know anyone who has experience with this anon? it does sound interesting. ul to me feels very intuitive metaphysically
>Are you the one who put together that google docs page?
yup i am. thanks for the advice anon.
>>39603565
iirc the height documents talked about rather significant changes in height within a year and a half. the limiting factor there was the rate at which your bones can actually remodel themselves. i am not sure about other features.
>>39603948
srry im not very well-versed in the way of the mekhanite. i know that photoshop has the liquify tool which might be handy for messing around with body proportions. if you dont want to buy it, you can search up alternatives that also have liquify. you can sometimes also just really coarse editing like box selecting and such to reduce the length of a feature. something that helps other than having a bunch of tools is to also get a good idea of what are ideal proportions for men which you can then compare to yourself. there a bunch of resources floating around for this from art to channels focused on aesthetics to incels complaining about stuff
visualization i believe is important. learning how to draw and stuff might help you get a better sense of proportion too which would let you work with stuff more intuitively. actually i am not sure i mentioned it elsewhere, but you want to not just be able to have an intuitive idea of how such and such change can effect how you look, but also have an internal idea of how your body would feel like if it shifted/was shifting into those proportions
>>39603902
do you know anyone who has experience with this anon? it does sound interesting. ul to me feels very intuitive metaphysically
ala 01/10/25(Fri)16:06:28 No.39606698
oh i think found the "height document" thing i was talking about earlier. its mostly txt anecdotes but it also includes some studies (again they seem to all involve breast enlargement except for one that mentions autoimmune disease) and techniques. this seems to be a mini biokinesis treasure trove:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Eboe5YJRpDxe8H46Dj-SCk7ICZeXbAax
anyone who makes the next general, please consider putting this in the opening post
it seems like i might have underestimated how fast it takes to manifest significant changes. i think i was thinking about "towering paul" when i gave the estimate of a year and a half. quoting from him:
>Yes, I'm 6'4" now. (If you want to get super accurate, I'm a small fraction of an inch over 6'4" but that's barely worth mentioning.) I was 22 when I started. I'm 23 now and will be 24 in a few months
https://drive.google.com/drive/fold
anyone who makes the next general, please consider putting this in the opening post
it seems like i might have underestimated how fast it takes to manifest significant changes. i think i was thinking about "towering paul" when i gave the estimate of a year and a half. quoting from him:
>Yes, I'm 6'4" now. (If you want to get super accurate, I'm a small fraction of an inch over 6'4" but that's barely worth mentioning.) I was 22 when I started. I'm 23 now and will be 24 in a few months
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:28:43 No.39606782
>>39606698
>>39606550
ah, so you are the very author of the red ocean document?
are you still involved with Current 218\ Acosmic gnosticism?
and is TOB 100% a fed-psyop? or a legitimate nexion which got hijacked by Sutter?
>>39606550
ah, so you are the very author of the red ocean document?
are you still involved with Current 218\ Acosmic gnosticism?
and is TOB 100% a fed-psyop? or a legitimate nexion which got hijacked by Sutter?
ala 01/10/25(Fri)16:47:31 No.39606874
>>39606782
i am more just interested in afar and feel as though the acosmic satanist guys have some interesting ideas to draw from. there was an o9a chatroom i was lurking a bit too. as for tob, honestly im not sure. there does seem to be tob members who implied that their group got hijacked by sutter. at any rate it glows too much to be worth getting involved with. honestly a lot of o9a people seem pretty sick of the ops
i am more just interested in afar and feel as though the acosmic satanist guys have some interesting ideas to draw from. there was an o9a chatroom i was lurking a bit too. as for tob, honestly im not sure. there does seem to be tob members who implied that their group got hijacked by sutter. at any rate it glows too much to be worth getting involved with. honestly a lot of o9a people seem pretty sick of the ops
№№ !!AhbdqVH3Wtk 01/10/25(Fri)16:52:36 No.39606900
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:36:27 No.39607170
trance, lucid dreaming, soul travel - everything else is inferior or a waste of time like "sigils" and "rituals".
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)18:03:31 No.39607333
>>39606874
do you know how to USE the liber falxifer books? I don't use if Im supposed to chant the mantras (chants?) draw the sigils, or just gaze at\ mentally memorize them, or draw them myself, etc
their mythos of dragons, Cain's expanded adventures, pre-flood world are kino. but it doesn't give any instructions, any how-to!!
>pic related, they like san la muerte
do you know how to USE the liber falxifer books? I don't use if Im supposed to chant the mantras (chants?) draw the sigils, or just gaze at\ mentally memorize them, or draw them myself, etc
their mythos of dragons, Cain's expanded adventures, pre-flood world are kino. but it doesn't give any instructions, any how-to!!
>pic related, they like san la muerte
ala 01/10/25(Fri)18:36:21 No.39607465
>>39607333
nice digits. doesnt that book also include full on rituals? for instance here:
https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-the-book-of-the-left-handed-reaper/page/n47/mode/2up
nice digits. doesnt that book also include full on rituals? for instance here:
https://archive.org/details/liber-f
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)19:06:34 No.39607624
>>39607465
you'd have to be a millionaire to access all those super-rare items TBQF. Like, imagine you just go out to the store ,and come back with the trolley full of all those essences\plants\roots\rocks?
you'd have to be a millionaire to access all those super-rare items TBQF. Like, imagine you just go out to the store ,and come back with the trolley full of all those essences\plants\roots\rocks?
ala 01/10/25(Fri)19:33:22 No.39607787
>>39607624
yeah true. you can always just visualize doing the ritual or try just focusing more on contemplation. i dont really plan getting all that stuff either
yeah true. you can always just visualize doing the ritual or try just focusing more on contemplation. i dont really plan getting all that stuff either
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)19:41:04 No.39607835
>>39607787
thanks, ala. I will give it a try. I HAVE been, lately, feeling a bit Efilist\Nihilist..but always from an altruistic perspective: I feel bad others suffer so much.
im not like the Maniac Murder Cult\NLM guys!!
thanks, ala. I will give it a try. I HAVE been, lately, feeling a bit Efilist\Nihilist..but always from an altruistic perspective: I feel bad others suffer so much.
im not like the Maniac Murder Cult\NLM guys!!
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:55:03 No.39608263
Thank you all for your replies. Lets make this a general, yes? Ill try to make a sticky sometime soon. The lucid dreaming thing seems interesting.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)01:19:44 No.39609402
>>39608263
Please do make it a general we need more stuff like this on this board people have gotten very nihilistic on here in the past 4 years
Please do make it a general we need more stuff like this on this board people have gotten very nihilistic on here in the past 4 years
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:18:52 No.39610367
bump for maxxing into becoming a, 1,90cm tall Albino Nordic runway model(male)
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:41:18 No.39610443
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:22:09 No.39610872
>>39587853
Wrong. PSI ability has nothing to do with morals.
Wrong. PSI ability has nothing to do with morals.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:23:44 No.39610875
>>39592815
How would you measure precognition improvements? Do you have a general idea of the variables that need to be improved?
How would you measure precognition improvements? Do you have a general idea of the variables that need to be improved?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:25:29 No.39610881
Can we make egregore pls
To get big fizeek and bones
?
To get big fizeek and bones
?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:32:44 No.39610901
Take them.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:43:33 No.39610934
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:09:31 No.39611038
>>39600726
Yeah, most of the suggestions I got in the last thread either focused on the frontal lobes, and parietal lobes. But the problem with trying to stimulate the anterior cingulate cortex, hypothalamus, amygdala, pineal gland, etc. is that it's deep into the brain, so doing it with any degree of precision .
>interoception just like that could easily lead to neurosis. you want to be able to handle the ride before you start making it drive 300 mph lol
If neurosis is the key to it then I've already been cruising at 100 for a while now.
>>39610875
>How would you measure precognition improvements? Do you have a general idea of the variables that need to be improved?
I was going to have part of the circuit switch between lighting a red LED and a green one at a high kHz frequency, or as fast as the components can safely handle. When I press a button the circuit completes and either the green or red LED would light and if the green LED does, it would give positive feedback with red giving it negative. The algorithm will generate random signals that play on short loops and try to find a correlation between the electrical stimulation and the ratio of green to red button presses. It may also need to measure the impedance of the skin, which could complicate things.
Yeah, most of the suggestions I got in the last thread either focused on the frontal lobes, and parietal lobes. But the problem with trying to stimulate the anterior cingulate cortex, hypothalamus, amygdala, pineal gland, etc. is that it's deep into the brain, so doing it with any degree of precision .
>interoception just like that could easily lead to neurosis. you want to be able to handle the ride before you start making it drive 300 mph lol
If neurosis is the key to it then I've already been cruising at 100 for a while now.
>>39610875
>How would you measure precognition improvements? Do you have a general idea of the variables that need to be improved?
I was going to have part of the circuit switch between lighting a red LED and a green one at a high kHz frequency, or as fast as the components can safely handle. When I press a button the circuit completes and either the green or red LED would light and if the green LED does, it would give positive feedback with red giving it negative. The algorithm will generate random signals that play on short loops and try to find a correlation between the electrical stimulation and the ratio of green to red button presses. It may also need to measure the impedance of the skin, which could complicate things.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:11:01 No.39611043
>>39608263
Yeah
Yeah
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:12:03 No.39611050
What about aquiring a new vessel or body?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:38:02 No.39611614
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:47:06 No.39611656
>>39610881
Cool idea, but i guess this would require collective commitment and hability from the thread participants (lol)
Cool idea, but i guess this would require collective commitment and hability from the thread participants (lol)
ala 01/11/25(Sat)16:37:42 No.39612839
>>39610881
we can always adopt scp's yaldabaoth since they already have tons of tales attached to that deity we can appropriate.
another idea would be to just fashion our own. something that has given the inanna thread a lot of memetic potency is the fate franchise turning her into a waifu that has a lot of art attached to her. ideally we'd do the same while also creating fiction surrounding the deity. i have thought have having some sort of ccru-like speculative fiction society oriented around fleshcrafting. such a deity could be the eldritch centre of it. maybe the deity could have a more sharable cute representation, and also a horrific depiction which inspires reverence and respect.
suggestions for symbols to incorporate:
- something pertaining to serpents, in reference to this post here: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39536299/#39539133. serpent and dragon imagery also evokes tzimisce and the kundalini, among other things
- stag horns (maybe having only 1 horn to make the character look more distinct): taking notes from some of the scp depictions of yaldabaoth which i am assuming is itself something inspired by dionysus/pan
- something related to owls (maybe owl-like eyebrows?): inanna is featured in various transformation myths. her connection to fertility i believe is also important for the theme of fleshiness. similarity to bohemian grove's owl makes the being spookier. id avoid sun/star symbolism just to give the being a bit of a more separate identity
- connection to spiders: to evoke themes of weaving fate and the universe. resonates with universal line. also see: https://ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/169391956577/ududo-okwanka-the-igbo-creator-spider
something related to the human skeleton: to evoke ereshkigal and inanna's descent into the underworld. the skeleton is also a very important organizing principle of the body on which a lot of proportions are based. id avoid a skull as that is rather cliche though
we can always adopt scp's yaldabaoth since they already have tons of tales attached to that deity we can appropriate.
another idea would be to just fashion our own. something that has given the inanna thread a lot of memetic potency is the fate franchise turning her into a waifu that has a lot of art attached to her. ideally we'd do the same while also creating fiction surrounding the deity. i have thought have having some sort of ccru-like speculative fiction society oriented around fleshcrafting. such a deity could be the eldritch centre of it. maybe the deity could have a more sharable cute representation, and also a horrific depiction which inspires reverence and respect.
suggestions for symbols to incorporate:
- something pertaining to serpents, in reference to this post here: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread
- stag horns (maybe having only 1 horn to make the character look more distinct): taking notes from some of the scp depictions of yaldabaoth which i am assuming is itself something inspired by dionysus/pan
- something related to owls (maybe owl-like eyebrows?): inanna is featured in various transformation myths. her connection to fertility i believe is also important for the theme of fleshiness. similarity to bohemian grove's owl makes the being spookier. id avoid sun/star symbolism just to give the being a bit of a more separate identity
- connection to spiders: to evoke themes of weaving fate and the universe. resonates with universal line. also see: https://ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/1693
something related to the human skeleton: to evoke ereshkigal and inanna's descent into the underworld. the skeleton is also a very important organizing principle of the body on which a lot of proportions are based. id avoid a skull as that is rather cliche though
ala 01/11/25(Sat)17:31:02 No.39613083
>>39612839
- blood: as it is the life essence of the body, it is rather fitting. btw if anyone wants to know why i titled the google doc "red ocean", i was thinking of this text:
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ever-only-all
>He bent down and dipped the fingers on one hand into the water, only to realize that it wasn’t. It clung to his skin the wrong way, was too dark and viscous and warm to be water. Under the starlight there was no colour, but he wouldn’t have doubted that, when the sun rose, it would be iron-red instead of blue.
after baptizing himself in an ocean of blood, ion dissolves then reforms into numerous different organisms throughout the history of the planet. it is a very interesting take on prophetic experience and satori. i like also the endocannibalistic symbolism behind drinking the blood of christ
- something related to electricity or hermes: relating to this video https://youtu.be/2_v9oYrF0tw?si=iU5oQhxGMgVN3Q3-&t=1880
- maybe on the point of relating to the skeleton, the spine could be what should be focused on
- maybe fire themes to symbolize metabolism and ever-changing existence? the inverse pentagram also symbolizes the latter but might be too boring
- maybe have her eyes permanently covered to show that she is more connected to what can be felt rather than what can be seen
- teeth: vampiric and theophagic lol
- blood: as it is the life essence of the body, it is rather fitting. btw if anyone wants to know why i titled the google doc "red ocean", i was thinking of this text:
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ever-o
>He bent down and dipped the fingers on one hand into the water, only to realize that it wasn’t. It clung to his skin the wrong way, was too dark and viscous and warm to be water. Under the starlight there was no colour, but he wouldn’t have doubted that, when the sun rose, it would be iron-red instead of blue.
after baptizing himself in an ocean of blood, ion dissolves then reforms into numerous different organisms throughout the history of the planet. it is a very interesting take on prophetic experience and satori. i like also the endocannibalistic symbolism behind drinking the blood of christ
- something related to electricity or hermes: relating to this video https://youtu.be/2_v9oYrF0tw?si=iU5
- maybe on the point of relating to the skeleton, the spine could be what should be focused on
- maybe fire themes to symbolize metabolism and ever-changing existence? the inverse pentagram also symbolizes the latter but might be too boring
- maybe have her eyes permanently covered to show that she is more connected to what can be felt rather than what can be seen
- teeth: vampiric and theophagic lol
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:54:02 No.39613211
>>39612839
>>39613083
Those symbols are accurate in a way.
The feminine is limitation. Therefore the egregore is feminine in nature (form). But it is also masculine in pursuit, or so id like. As "expansion of the bones" (expansion/pushing). The spinal imagery does make sense. Bones are what shapes beauty standards and what makes you attractive underneath soft tissue. Soft tissue can always be altered via more physical methods so its not a worry for me particularly.
The electricity imagery might symbolize how through the internet the egregore was created and sustained. Much like the nobody mythos.
Tldr even though divine masculine the entity is feminine. Much like Innana. Martian (divine masculine, but a goddess nevertheless)
>>39613083
Those symbols are accurate in a way.
The feminine is limitation. Therefore the egregore is feminine in nature (form). But it is also masculine in pursuit, or so id like. As "expansion of the bones" (expansion/pushing). The spinal imagery does make sense. Bones are what shapes beauty standards and what makes you attractive underneath soft tissue. Soft tissue can always be altered via more physical methods so its not a worry for me particularly.
The electricity imagery might symbolize how through the internet the egregore was created and sustained. Much like the nobody mythos.
Tldr even though divine masculine the entity is feminine. Much like Innana. Martian (divine masculine, but a goddess nevertheless)
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:14:47 No.39613335
>>39613211
>>39613083
Ill just write other things that come into mind.
Blood, real blood is a surefire way to get a demon, so i'd avoid that personally. Since it is a feminine aspect of the masculine, its similar to Ishtar/innana. the practicioners and the spirit need to be highly respectful of each other without falling into authoritarianism. Open source in nature since it's being made right here in the 'chans. Its highly likely that innana/ishtar rejects the coomers that are associated with her now, or at the very least, doesn't really give them the great gifts she gave to the men of old. The very nature of the people that come here is to be somewhat undisciplined. So another website or using mindfully the internet for the practicioners should be advised, as giving attention to the egregore would be less potent if you also gave the attention to every random bullshit that comes across.
Fire symbolism definitely fits as its an "expansion" theme. To burn something non precious in exchange for something truly precious. To turn sand into glass. To drop all of the bad habits that hold the men back, and in exchange gain the ever desired look their true will wants, or something like that. Very interesting
>>39613083
Ill just write other things that come into mind.
Blood, real blood is a surefire way to get a demon, so i'd avoid that personally. Since it is a feminine aspect of the masculine, its similar to Ishtar/innana. the practicioners and the spirit need to be highly respectful of each other without falling into authoritarianism. Open source in nature since it's being made right here in the 'chans. Its highly likely that innana/ishtar rejects the coomers that are associated with her now, or at the very least, doesn't really give them the great gifts she gave to the men of old. The very nature of the people that come here is to be somewhat undisciplined. So another website or using mindfully the internet for the practicioners should be advised, as giving attention to the egregore would be less potent if you also gave the attention to every random bullshit that comes across.
Fire symbolism definitely fits as its an "expansion" theme. To burn something non precious in exchange for something truly precious. To turn sand into glass. To drop all of the bad habits that hold the men back, and in exchange gain the ever desired look their true will wants, or something like that. Very interesting
ala 01/11/25(Sat)18:24:08 No.39613378
>>39613083
more art and random deleuze quote
>This objective zone of indiscernibility is the entire body, but the body insofar as it is flesh or meat. Of course, the body has bones as well, but bones are only its spatial structure. A distinction is often made between flesh and bone, and even between things related to them. The body is revealed only when it ceases to be supported by the bones, when the flesh ceases to cover the bones, when the two exist for each other, but each on its own terms: the bone as the material structure of the body, the flesh as the bodily material of the Figure.
>>39607835
if you are feeling eflist, schopenhauer might resonate even more with you. good luck!
>>39613211
good points. to add to this, the feminine is not just limitation but also receptivity. it is about encouraging one to listen to the potentials buried within the body. there is also a masculine side too as you've pointed out. activity is important because although there is an enhanced listening to nature, our path must be ultimately counter-natural. you pointing out how inanna is divine masculine gets to this. notice how she is both the goddess of war and fertility. in war, there is mutation and the counter-natural. in love there is connectivity and the natural.
also on the point of electricity that is an interesting take. i was thinking also about michael levin's research into animal bioelectricity being an integral part of morphogenesis. he has already done experiments altering the bodies of animals by playing around with this medium of morphic signalling
more art and random deleuze quote
>This objective zone of indiscernibility is the entire body, but the body insofar as it is flesh or meat. Of course, the body has bones as well, but bones are only its spatial structure. A distinction is often made between flesh and bone, and even between things related to them. The body is revealed only when it ceases to be supported by the bones, when the flesh ceases to cover the bones, when the two exist for each other, but each on its own terms: the bone as the material structure of the body, the flesh as the bodily material of the Figure.
>>39607835
if you are feeling eflist, schopenhauer might resonate even more with you. good luck!
>>39613211
good points. to add to this, the feminine is not just limitation but also receptivity. it is about encouraging one to listen to the potentials buried within the body. there is also a masculine side too as you've pointed out. activity is important because although there is an enhanced listening to nature, our path must be ultimately counter-natural. you pointing out how inanna is divine masculine gets to this. notice how she is both the goddess of war and fertility. in war, there is mutation and the counter-natural. in love there is connectivity and the natural.
also on the point of electricity that is an interesting take. i was thinking also about michael levin's research into animal bioelectricity being an integral part of morphogenesis. he has already done experiments altering the bodies of animals by playing around with this medium of morphic signalling
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:30:35 No.39613410
>>39613378
Bio electricity synchronicity just came in, thats definetely the way to go.
Bio electricity synchronicity just came in, thats definetely the way to go.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:33:49 No.39613425
>>39587853
If the witches aren't evil and have empathy, why are they willing to do this for money from evil people?
If the witches aren't evil and have empathy, why are they willing to do this for money from evil people?
ala 01/11/25(Sat)18:55:12 No.39613538
>>39613335
if you are really averse to blood, maybe it could be wine or milk. im less interested in blood as something that evokes blood letting, but rather as something that contains memories that one may be submerged within or ingested. maybe there is another way to really include these ideas though
>Its highly likely that innana/ishtar rejects the coomers that are associated with her now, or at the very least, doesn't really give them the great gifts she gave to the men of old
i highly recommend the video i linked here >>39613083 for its esoteric discussion. a major problem with cooming is that it completely robs you of desire afterwards and effectively leaves you content with where you are currently. if there is a sexual connection to this egregore it should be abstinence while not trying to quell sexual energy and desire. im curious what is your thought on this
>So another website or using mindfully the internet for the practicioners should be advised, as giving attention to the egregore would be less potent if you also gave the attention to every random bullshit that comes across.
interesting idea. there is definitely a balance to be had. i like the chaotic shitposting on imageboards sometimes where it sometimes produces creative ideas that you wouldn't really get if people were not posting half-ironically. a more closed off forum might also be helpful for more focused activity. i think an important practice would be to do various biokinetic practices while pressing intentions into the figure of the egregore. this could maybe produce a morphic field effect that helps bolster potency and consistency
if you are really averse to blood, maybe it could be wine or milk. im less interested in blood as something that evokes blood letting, but rather as something that contains memories that one may be submerged within or ingested. maybe there is another way to really include these ideas though
>Its highly likely that innana/ishtar rejects the coomers that are associated with her now, or at the very least, doesn't really give them the great gifts she gave to the men of old
i highly recommend the video i linked here >>39613083 for its esoteric discussion. a major problem with cooming is that it completely robs you of desire afterwards and effectively leaves you content with where you are currently. if there is a sexual connection to this egregore it should be abstinence while not trying to quell sexual energy and desire. im curious what is your thought on this
>So another website or using mindfully the internet for the practicioners should be advised, as giving attention to the egregore would be less potent if you also gave the attention to every random bullshit that comes across.
interesting idea. there is definitely a balance to be had. i like the chaotic shitposting on imageboards sometimes where it sometimes produces creative ideas that you wouldn't really get if people were not posting half-ironically. a more closed off forum might also be helpful for more focused activity. i think an important practice would be to do various biokinetic practices while pressing intentions into the figure of the egregore. this could maybe produce a morphic field effect that helps bolster potency and consistency
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:56:29 No.39613543
yeah the magic one does work but
do !NOT! use
extenders
jelqing
or anything that has the use of force/prolonged artificial blood stasis.
carefully read and study janus bifrons things (yt), his plebbit.
there are special different techniques to learn and master
also you masturbated your whole life incorrectly
learn and study these things carefully and THEN do it in combination with the magic screencaps, the big dick is yours anons
discipline and temperance and imagination
so even you will
bump
into the cervix of women >:)
do !NOT! use
extenders
jelqing
or anything that has the use of force/prolonged artificial blood stasis.
carefully read and study janus bifrons things (yt), his plebbit.
there are special different techniques to learn and master
also you masturbated your whole life incorrectly
learn and study these things carefully and THEN do it in combination with the magic screencaps, the big dick is yours anons
discipline and temperance and imagination
so even you will
bump
into the cervix of women >:)
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)19:37:25 No.39613773
>>39613538
Yes, thats exactly it. Are you on some psycho actives or are you good at reading into people? This is exactly what i was thinking. That video opened doors just now. But i want to open them for others, too. Ill think, more about this later, i appreciate the suggestions and ill try to keep this general a tradition on the board.
Yes, thats exactly it. Are you on some psycho actives or are you good at reading into people? This is exactly what i was thinking. That video opened doors just now. But i want to open them for others, too. Ill think, more about this later, i appreciate the suggestions and ill try to keep this general a tradition on the board.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)20:49:44 No.39614097
>>39613773
>video opened doors just now
what??? i watched it/read the script because hes wayy to slow(purposly to generate screentime and cringy ass bgm) and learned no- thing, because i already knew all these things; also granted, he doesnt really say anything of value anyway. he just wants you to click his link and download his pdf
honestly, if that shitty 08/15 video opened any doors 4u you need to lurk more, like wtf man?
what he shouldve done is compacting and condensing the 59mins of him yappin about basic bitch /x/tier knowledge into a 10min tops qrd and then actually explaining in great detail how like hes called it "gynergy", works in practise
how the copulation is performed without ejac, or the so called vampiric sex
you know, actual important and actually interesting stuff.
but instead its
just do the kegelz bruh.
just read these books bruh.
>video opened doors just now
what??? i watched it/read the script because hes wayy to slow(purposly to generate screentime and cringy ass bgm) and learned no- thing, because i already knew all these things; also granted, he doesnt really say anything of value anyway. he just wants you to click his link and download his pdf
honestly, if that shitty 08/15 video opened any doors 4u you need to lurk more, like wtf man?
what he shouldve done is compacting and condensing the 59mins of him yappin about basic bitch /x/tier knowledge into a 10min tops qrd and then actually explaining in great detail how like hes called it "gynergy", works in practise
how the copulation is performed without ejac, or the so called vampiric sex
you know, actual important and actually interesting stuff.
but instead its
just do the kegelz bruh.
just read these books bruh.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)21:05:01 No.39614185
>>39614097
Gold or lead, which is it if not both?
I knew these things already. Energy. I manipulate it. Paradox, i embrace it. But now i finally see what i want to see. I dont know how.
Gold or lead, which is it if not both?
I knew these things already. Energy. I manipulate it. Paradox, i embrace it. But now i finally see what i want to see. I dont know how.
ala 01/11/25(Sat)21:44:04 No.39614410
made a sketch of some ideas of a design. maybe could use some iterations lol. i superimposed the alchemical symbol of fire on top of a pentagram for her forehead. to evoke lightning i drew a scar on her face and i made the snake a skeleton to incorporate both the serpent and spine themes into one. the wings are too relate her to the oneiroi, though maybe they should be absent to have a simpler design. i dont want her to be look. the dash of owl there really makes her look wise lol. i dont want something that looks too olympian or "civilized" though...
i wasnt really aiming for it, but she almost looks too dignified? not very conducive to the waifu memetics route. maybe we can just have multiple forms
>>39613773
lol im not on anything. maybe there is something in the air
i wasnt really aiming for it, but she almost looks too dignified? not very conducive to the waifu memetics route. maybe we can just have multiple forms
>>39613773
lol im not on anything. maybe there is something in the air
ala 01/11/25(Sat)21:45:39 No.39614418
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)22:03:22 No.39614515
>>39614410
i would give let her jerk my chain if you catch my drift
i would give let her jerk my chain if you catch my drift
ala 01/11/25(Sat)22:09:39 No.39614553
>>39614410
ok wait these horns somehow feel more appropriate. these keep popping up in my imagination rather than regular deer antlers for some reason
>>39614515
lol
ok wait these horns somehow feel more appropriate. these keep popping up in my imagination rather than regular deer antlers for some reason
>>39614515
lol
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)22:09:44 No.39614556
>>39614410
>i dont want something that looks too olympian or "civilized" though
What about that forehead symbol as a crotch tattoo?
>>39613543
Thank you for the words anon, i've already been planning on seriously and diligently doing it. I'll be careful and try my best.
>also you masturbated your whole life incorrectly
Are you talking about edging?
>i dont want something that looks too olympian or "civilized" though
What about that forehead symbol as a crotch tattoo?
>>39613543
Thank you for the words anon, i've already been planning on seriously and diligently doing it. I'll be careful and try my best.
>also you masturbated your whole life incorrectly
Are you talking about edging?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:00:15 No.39614808
>>39614410
Instead of thelema i would say the star of david/union of opposite alchemical signs of fire and water(soft tissue and hard tissue)
Instead of thelema i would say the star of david/union of opposite alchemical signs of fire and water(soft tissue and hard tissue)
ala 01/11/25(Sat)23:38:43 No.39614972
>>39614556
>What about that forehead symbol as a crotch tattoo?
OMG, this suggestion was actually amazing. it led me to no longer having the bone snake be an actual 3d snake skeleton and instead a complementary tattoo. but then there was nothing to censor her boobs which would be somewhat problematic because this is a blue board after all. which lead me to put on some sleek clothes on. then after that i realized i could put cobwebs on the design of her robes (optional). my body is honestly responding really strongly to this design now
>>39614808
that sounds like a good symbol as well. maybe it can be placed somewhere on her garment or something else. the "main tattoo" i think should be a symbol that distinguishes her. star of david is sort of used elsewhere
>What about that forehead symbol as a crotch tattoo?
OMG, this suggestion was actually amazing. it led me to no longer having the bone snake be an actual 3d snake skeleton and instead a complementary tattoo. but then there was nothing to censor her boobs which would be somewhat problematic because this is a blue board after all. which lead me to put on some sleek clothes on. then after that i realized i could put cobwebs on the design of her robes (optional). my body is honestly responding really strongly to this design now
>>39614808
that sounds like a good symbol as well. maybe it can be placed somewhere on her garment or something else. the "main tattoo" i think should be a symbol that distinguishes her. star of david is sort of used elsewhere
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:58:42 No.39615043
>>39614972
. Red does suit the color since its a "blood and flesh" egregore. Ill try setting some ground rules and start creating some more conversations and lift as much energy as i can. Just setting the bases up for the ground and the heavens.
Also, yes, totally right. The star of david is not it. Its the union of fire of change to make changes on the EARTH. Like the gods made man out of clay. The goddess will reshape only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also.
. Red does suit the color since its a "blood and flesh" egregore. Ill try setting some ground rules and start creating some more conversations and lift as much energy as i can. Just setting the bases up for the ground and the heavens.
Also, yes, totally right. The star of david is not it. Its the union of fire of change to make changes on the EARTH. Like the gods made man out of clay. The goddess will reshape only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)00:05:02 No.39615061
>>39615043
Id also like to add that the little hip ring around her does suit. Based on my preferences id prefer another color. But well, if all gods are egregores its not really something to worry about. They're beyond words in that way.
Saturnian compromise. Sacrifice. In exchange for growth and energy to fuel the goals of the body. The desires of the physical. Energy for energy, brother. There definitely is something in the air.
Id also like to add that the little hip ring around her does suit. Based on my preferences id prefer another color. But well, if all gods are egregores its not really something to worry about. They're beyond words in that way.
Saturnian compromise. Sacrifice. In exchange for growth and energy to fuel the goals of the body. The desires of the physical. Energy for energy, brother. There definitely is something in the air.
ala 01/12/25(Sun)00:15:34 No.39615090
btw does anyone have an idea for a name? i was thinking on basing it on initials for instance
H - hermes
I - ishtar
D - dionysus
Ya - yaldabaoth
>>39614972
removed the cape to make the character more distinct from some depictions of scp yaldabaoth
>>39615043
>Ill try setting some ground rules and start creating some more conversations and lift as much energy as i can. Just setting the bases up for the ground and the heavens.
good luck
>The goddess will reshape only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also
honestly great observation. i do believe that mutation of body and spirit are processes that accompany one another. i was going to tack on a star of david until you mentioned that
H - hermes
I - ishtar
D - dionysus
Ya - yaldabaoth
>>39614972
removed the cape to make the character more distinct from some depictions of scp yaldabaoth
>>39615043
>Ill try setting some ground rules and start creating some more conversations and lift as much energy as i can. Just setting the bases up for the ground and the heavens.
good luck
>The goddess will reshape only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also
honestly great observation. i do believe that mutation of body and spirit are processes that accompany one another. i was going to tack on a star of david until you mentioned that
ala 01/12/25(Sun)00:58:40 No.39615247
oh yeah i forgot to mention another reason why i did a pentagram + the symbol for fire. if you count the angles you get 8. the most common symbol for ishtar is an 8 pointed star as well. its sort of riffing on that idea too
ala 01/12/25(Sun)03:32:42 No.39615916
>>39615090
one last iteration before i go to sleep. this time i made the wings asymmetric to call to oneroi head statues that only have one wing. i also redrew the wing so it is more readable. it also matches the asymmetry with the horn. i like the last iteration too though
one last iteration before i go to sleep. this time i made the wings asymmetric to call to oneroi head statues that only have one wing. i also redrew the wing so it is more readable. it also matches the asymmetry with the horn. i like the last iteration too though
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:45:45 No.39617468
>>39615916
Last night i dreamt about the thing being constructed in this thread, but i can't remember shit anymore, i was too tired and slept again.
>oneroi
>mfw
>>39615043
>only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also.
That's basically anti-cosmic satanism if i'm not wrong
>>39615090
Since you previously talked about her having 2 different appearences, one cute and other eldritch, she could have 2 names:
H-I-D-Ya and H-I-P-Ya
With a P of Pan and a D of Dionysus
What do you think?
Last night i dreamt about the thing being constructed in this thread, but i can't remember shit anymore, i was too tired and slept again.
>oneroi
>mfw
>>39615043
>only if man can burn himself down to reshape not only his body, but his spirit also.
That's basically anti-cosmic satanism if i'm not wrong
>>39615090
Since you previously talked about her having 2 different appearences, one cute and other eldritch, she could have 2 names:
H-I-D-Ya and H-I-P-Ya
With a P of Pan and a D of Dionysus
What do you think?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:14:51 No.39617626
>>39594260
Left side skull, bottom left, above the jaw
Left side skull, bottom left, above the jaw
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:04:43 No.39617869
>>39617468
Quite the opposite of satanism, i might add. It allows for love of the spiritual by making the physical not an obstacle.
How funny that i get the same feeling. I cant remember what i was dreaming about until i was basically awake.
Quite the opposite of satanism, i might add. It allows for love of the spiritual by making the physical not an obstacle.
How funny that i get the same feeling. I cant remember what i was dreaming about until i was basically awake.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:09:52 No.39617903
Milk should be the symbol. And be consumed of course. Raw dairy preferably. Sanitized of course.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:34:25 No.39620036
(cervix) bump
ala 01/12/25(Sun)18:03:56 No.39620591
ok WTF. so after i drew that final picture i did a bit of studying then decided to do some energy work while building up a morphic field associated with the pentagram fire ("spirit-fire" ?) symbol. as i was directing energy into my chakras i noticed a hot sensation in each of them, and it came to a point where the bottom 3 were especially burning. something is did was for each chakra i channeled energy into it on my out breath 8 times each (or multiples of 8 to get a more uniform sensation). also note i only did the bottom 6 chakras. i did not include the crown (taking notes from forrest knutson). i think meditation of the sigil might have made me subconsciously do things that activated my sympathetic nervous system, im not sure. i felt like the distribution of heat was not even (concentrated in lower area) so i also did a bit of microcosmic orbit too to circulate things a bit better
after that i decided to do a universal line command session, but i modified it to channel authority into the egregore. it basically went like this:
(while breathing in a way that my out breath is longer than my in breath?)
1) focus on making an intention for desired body changes
2) meditate on the nature of continuity of everything in existence, and the individuation of this entity as a morphic field within this global reality. id also think about how the changes earlier are possible through the strengthening of this entity. i also ended up channeling energy into my lower chakras again but i tried not to do too much because it was getting pretty hot (i think next time i should probably focus more on circulation or something like that... perhaps in step 3 there is a channeling and in step 2 there is a focus on circulation?)
3) here i tried to induce in myself a sweltering desire while keeping my mind silent
doing this made it understandably harder to sleep. im not sure when i finally lost consciousness, but when i woke up i was hungry and parched. so i decided to head out to go and eat
after that i decided to do a universal line command session, but i modified it to channel authority into the egregore. it basically went like this:
(while breathing in a way that my out breath is longer than my in breath?)
1) focus on making an intention for desired body changes
2) meditate on the nature of continuity of everything in existence, and the individuation of this entity as a morphic field within this global reality. id also think about how the changes earlier are possible through the strengthening of this entity. i also ended up channeling energy into my lower chakras again but i tried not to do too much because it was getting pretty hot (i think next time i should probably focus more on circulation or something like that... perhaps in step 3 there is a channeling and in step 2 there is a focus on circulation?)
3) here i tried to induce in myself a sweltering desire while keeping my mind silent
doing this made it understandably harder to sleep. im not sure when i finally lost consciousness, but when i woke up i was hungry and parched. so i decided to head out to go and eat
ala 01/12/25(Sun)18:31:12 No.39620752
>>39620591
while getting ready i was thinking a bit about this post >>39617468 and also about a myth i could write for this being. afterwards i went out to some fast food restaurant. just ordered some fries and a burger. the food was really hot but this happens sometimes. anyways i was eating some fries while absentmindedly browsing on my phone and then i realized my phone was 1% battery. silly me. i just decided to keep eating without looking at it. then i started to absent mindedly think about effective ways to charge an egregore. something that came to mind too was how this idea of using energy practices while contemplating this entity isnt quite chaos magick but rather a brand new form of magick in a way. it is one based off of the recapitulation of virtue through embedding effective action into the morphic field.
while this stuff was swimming in my mind i turned my head to look at the tv (since i was no longer looking at my phone i guess i was bored and wanted to see what was on) and saw fucking this. it gave me a jolt and i had to take a photo. this can't be real. it's like she is looking up at the sky to see where the hell she's been summoned
>>39617468
>Since you previously talked about her having 2 different appearences, one cute and other eldritch, she could have 2 names
i was actually also thinking of alternative spellings too like for instance swapping hermes for odin. thinking about it hermes is a more liminal deity than odin is and similarly dionysus is more liminal than pan. thinking about it, yahweh is i think a more liminal deity than yaldabaoth. with all of these configurations in place we have:
liminal:
H(ermes)-I(shtar)-D(ionysus)-Weh (with "weh"
taken from "Yahweh")
chaos:
I(shtar)-O(din)-P(an)-Ya(ldabaoth)
i think the more cute depictions can be associated with the liminal name as it is like a bridge between our world and the flesh dimension. the eldritch meanwhile is more pure chaos
while getting ready i was thinking a bit about this post >>39617468 and also about a myth i could write for this being. afterwards i went out to some fast food restaurant. just ordered some fries and a burger. the food was really hot but this happens sometimes. anyways i was eating some fries while absentmindedly browsing on my phone and then i realized my phone was 1% battery. silly me. i just decided to keep eating without looking at it. then i started to absent mindedly think about effective ways to charge an egregore. something that came to mind too was how this idea of using energy practices while contemplating this entity isnt quite chaos magick but rather a brand new form of magick in a way. it is one based off of the recapitulation of virtue through embedding effective action into the morphic field.
while this stuff was swimming in my mind i turned my head to look at the tv (since i was no longer looking at my phone i guess i was bored and wanted to see what was on) and saw fucking this. it gave me a jolt and i had to take a photo. this can't be real. it's like she is looking up at the sky to see where the hell she's been summoned
>>39617468
>Since you previously talked about her having 2 different appearences, one cute and other eldritch, she could have 2 names
i was actually also thinking of alternative spellings too like for instance swapping hermes for odin. thinking about it hermes is a more liminal deity than odin is and similarly dionysus is more liminal than pan. thinking about it, yahweh is i think a more liminal deity than yaldabaoth. with all of these configurations in place we have:
liminal:
H(ermes)-I(shtar)-D(ionysus)-Weh (with "weh"
taken from "Yahweh")
chaos:
I(shtar)-O(din)-P(an)-Ya(ldabaoth)
i think the more cute depictions can be associated with the liminal name as it is like a bridge between our world and the flesh dimension. the eldritch meanwhile is more pure chaos
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:04:22 No.39620981
>>39620752
hidwyus, a god that makes you beautiful? KEEK
hidwyus, a god that makes you beautiful? KEEK
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)19:16:03 No.39621060
>>39620752
Should add a wheel, in fact. Like this nigga right here, reminded me for some reason.
Should add a wheel, in fact. Like this nigga right here, reminded me for some reason.
ala 01/12/25(Sun)20:22:07 No.39621477
>>39620752
also here was basically the story that was floating in my head:
>when hidweh woke, she found herself lying on a bed of charred wood. by her side were offerings of milk and wine and tents yet the encampment was empty. she sat bewildered at where she found herself and began orienting her senses as the last embers beneath her died out. out of the ashy odour of the camp she discerned her own scent. it was a sour metal. she could see glowing eyes gazing at her, no doubt attracted to it. her vision gathered up the forest's body of trees and soil and her ears swallowed the forest's spirit. she then began to remember. specks of impressions from whoever brought her here began to stain her nerves. at this point her throne of firewood was as cold as the rest of the night she was thrown into and so she stood up to explore
>the forest was a pandaemonium of spirit. diverse forms of flora and fauna bubbled up from the shade of canopies only to dissolve back into the whole. those that summoned her intrigued her, these animate shadows intrigued her, life intrigued her. the played in the rain and snow, and every once in a while, she would here booming thunder. how commanding it was. it filled her with reverence.
also here was basically the story that was floating in my head:
>when hidweh woke, she found herself lying on a bed of charred wood. by her side were offerings of milk and wine and tents yet the encampment was empty. she sat bewildered at where she found herself and began orienting her senses as the last embers beneath her died out. out of the ashy odour of the camp she discerned her own scent. it was a sour metal. she could see glowing eyes gazing at her, no doubt attracted to it. her vision gathered up the forest's body of trees and soil and her ears swallowed the forest's spirit. she then began to remember. specks of impressions from whoever brought her here began to stain her nerves. at this point her throne of firewood was as cold as the rest of the night she was thrown into and so she stood up to explore
>the forest was a pandaemonium of spirit. diverse forms of flora and fauna bubbled up from the shade of canopies only to dissolve back into the whole. those that summoned her intrigued her, these animate shadows intrigued her, life intrigued her. the played in the rain and snow, and every once in a while, she would here booming thunder. how commanding it was. it filled her with reverence.
ala 01/12/25(Sun)20:26:11 No.39621513
>>39621477
>she continued to explore and enjoy the fruits of the land, until one day she discovered the mouth to a cave. it was dark and it sucked the heat out from the rest of the forest. yet despite this hidweh sensed there was some life hidden within. and so she descended down. although it was dark, she had the eyes of owls and could ensnare whatever colour floated in the abyss. after 8 days she reached the bottom floor, and there she was greeted by a tree and a serpent. it told her if she ate a fruit from the tree, she would have knowledge of life and death so that she may know of all life in the forest. naively, she went on to take a bite and immediately she realized she was naked and a wing sprouted from her back to cover her body. to this the snake guffawed merrily, "this tree is my brother, and now you have eaten from it, you both are now one". she assented to this as she had already felt she was beginning to know things that eluded to her. she realized her body was a forest, and this land she has come to inhabited was itself part of a greater land. woods in woods in woods. the fruit told her the truth of life, that it was the play of fire and lightning
>she reached out her hand and she saw that tentacles began sprouting from her flesh. she had never seen a tentacle before, so she had thought that they looked like snakes. "the tree was brothers with the serpent after all", she thought. as the little worms perched on her skin danced and rubbed on one another, they began to grow hot and emit sparks of light. these grew and grew until her entire vision became white, and after black. then the world fell silent
>she continued to explore and enjoy the fruits of the land, until one day she discovered the mouth to a cave. it was dark and it sucked the heat out from the rest of the forest. yet despite this hidweh sensed there was some life hidden within. and so she descended down. although it was dark, she had the eyes of owls and could ensnare whatever colour floated in the abyss. after 8 days she reached the bottom floor, and there she was greeted by a tree and a serpent. it told her if she ate a fruit from the tree, she would have knowledge of life and death so that she may know of all life in the forest. naively, she went on to take a bite and immediately she realized she was naked and a wing sprouted from her back to cover her body. to this the snake guffawed merrily, "this tree is my brother, and now you have eaten from it, you both are now one". she assented to this as she had already felt she was beginning to know things that eluded to her. she realized her body was a forest, and this land she has come to inhabited was itself part of a greater land. woods in woods in woods. the fruit told her the truth of life, that it was the play of fire and lightning
>she reached out her hand and she saw that tentacles began sprouting from her flesh. she had never seen a tentacle before, so she had thought that they looked like snakes. "the tree was brothers with the serpent after all", she thought. as the little worms perched on her skin danced and rubbed on one another, they began to grow hot and emit sparks of light. these grew and grew until her entire vision became white, and after black. then the world fell silent
ala 01/12/25(Sun)20:28:27 No.39621538
>>39621513
>her eyes were jewels. they embraced organic forms of the natural world and through them she made communion, yet now all was left was a sweltering scar. she felt like crying, but she had no tear ducts to make tears and there were no budding flowers around her to drink them up. she realized thunder was a dragon, one that lived both within and without. it scared her, but there was nowhere left to run, and so she sat. she sat until she was able to see with her gut. until she was able to tame the lightning which pervaded throughout the universe. then she turned to the serpent, and vexed it did not warn her, she swallowed it. and she struck the tree with a bolt of lightning so that it was consumed by her through the ensuing flames. now she was fully one with the serpent and the tree. bark began to sprout from the side of her head and the snake's skeletal remains became imprinted unto her belly. she sighed and began to ascend. if she could not see all life, she could at least taste it
>her eyes were jewels. they embraced organic forms of the natural world and through them she made communion, yet now all was left was a sweltering scar. she felt like crying, but she had no tear ducts to make tears and there were no budding flowers around her to drink them up. she realized thunder was a dragon, one that lived both within and without. it scared her, but there was nowhere left to run, and so she sat. she sat until she was able to see with her gut. until she was able to tame the lightning which pervaded throughout the universe. then she turned to the serpent, and vexed it did not warn her, she swallowed it. and she struck the tree with a bolt of lightning so that it was consumed by her through the ensuing flames. now she was fully one with the serpent and the tree. bark began to sprout from the side of her head and the snake's skeletal remains became imprinted unto her belly. she sighed and began to ascend. if she could not see all life, she could at least taste it
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:31:53 No.39621567
>>39585262
fasting flushes out the yeast in the body, combining with veggies and meat will eventually keep your body in a great state of healing. it will do wonders. there is a reason why i mentioned that fasting flushes out the yeast in the body.. to much sugar and/or carbs will give u a yeast infection. that is why u have alot of dandruff, your body is making its own bread ew.
fasting flushes out the yeast in the body, combining with veggies and meat will eventually keep your body in a great state of healing. it will do wonders. there is a reason why i mentioned that fasting flushes out the yeast in the body.. to much sugar and/or carbs will give u a yeast infection. that is why u have alot of dandruff, your body is making its own bread ew.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:35:08 No.39621599
ala 01/12/25(Sun)20:45:38 No.39621696
>>39621538
before i saw the lightning bolt fire i was thinking about starting the story with her waking up on top of a camp fire. i also thought about having the story explain where the scar came from as a cautionary take about knowledge without wisdom. maybe something i could add somewhere is a point about her owl like countenance being something referenced again at the end? like before her owl like nature was associated with seeing without, but now it is related to seeing within
>>39621060
i guess because of the association with constant adaptation. it could be a sign that appears on her back or maybe hands? maybe in some depictions it is like a halo thing
it is interesting that mahoraga is also depicted with no eyes
>>39620981
i actually thought about that. hidya does sound like hideous and thought oh what if her name was hidyas. i think that would give a more eldrich association
>From Middle English hidous, from Anglo-Norman hidous, from Old French hideus, hydus (“that which inspires terror”), from earlier hisdos, from Old French hisda (“horror, fear”), of uncertain and disputed origin
hidweh is interesting too because it sounds like hid-way... anyways i dont think the entity should be associated per se with beauty. it is just something she is able to provide. really she is about flesh and bioelectricity. desu the irony of such an entity not being unambiguously beautiful to me is interesting
>It is interesting to note that while the Volutaar speaks so carefully about not drawing upon the Archons, it is clear that she has done so extensively. Her appearance is still that of a young girl, despite her obvious age. The Manmas Natau are much older in appearance, and I wonder now if that is by choice, or their approach to Lihakut'ak precludes the use of it so extensively upon themselves.
before i saw the lightning bolt fire i was thinking about starting the story with her waking up on top of a camp fire. i also thought about having the story explain where the scar came from as a cautionary take about knowledge without wisdom. maybe something i could add somewhere is a point about her owl like countenance being something referenced again at the end? like before her owl like nature was associated with seeing without, but now it is related to seeing within
>>39621060
i guess because of the association with constant adaptation. it could be a sign that appears on her back or maybe hands? maybe in some depictions it is like a halo thing
it is interesting that mahoraga is also depicted with no eyes
>>39620981
i actually thought about that. hidya does sound like hideous and thought oh what if her name was hidyas. i think that would give a more eldrich association
>From Middle English hidous, from Anglo-Norman hidous, from Old French hideus, hydus (“that which inspires terror”), from earlier hisdos, from Old French hisda (“horror, fear”), of uncertain and disputed origin
hidweh is interesting too because it sounds like hid-way... anyways i dont think the entity should be associated per se with beauty. it is just something she is able to provide. really she is about flesh and bioelectricity. desu the irony of such an entity not being unambiguously beautiful to me is interesting
>It is interesting to note that while the Volutaar speaks so carefully about not drawing upon the Archons, it is clear that she has done so extensively. Her appearance is still that of a young girl, despite her obvious age. The Manmas Natau are much older in appearance, and I wonder now if that is by choice, or their approach to Lihakut'ak precludes the use of it so extensively upon themselves.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:58:33 No.39621812
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:53:07 No.39622590
>>39621696
Hidyos As OS and not OUS sounds like "god" in french and spanish.
Also yes i see the inspiration. Id only cut the apple from the tree of knowledge and instead would replace it with more tones of strength. Strength, of will (fire), to deny fate and embrace it therefore (true will, in a way). The christian myth implies that only god should know good. But i would spin it into the opposite. The apple came from that tree. When she touched it it became clear she would understand what lies beyond, who or what brought her here. Infinite comprehension yet one step at a time (following the theme of infinite growth)
The 8 pointed star with a wheel or indicating its rotary movement can be a good indicator of aging and how nevertheless everything dies and decays. I would also much rather not get the spirit to be suffering constantly which the folklore you produced kinda does actualize. I thought about it more recently and it came over to me that spiritual fire to make the earth grow stronger is a lot like making art. So artist undertones do also fit. The 8 pointed star with 8 handles. A forcing of the electricity of desire that promotes will to change the very essence of the body. And it is kinda like psychic vampirism. Which the lore does also realize as "she would at least taste a part of life". So, 8 pointed star on womb or forehead, and 2 opposite sided (CW and CCW) 4 handled wheels.
This is getting good ngl.
Hidyos As OS and not OUS sounds like "god" in french and spanish.
Also yes i see the inspiration. Id only cut the apple from the tree of knowledge and instead would replace it with more tones of strength. Strength, of will (fire), to deny fate and embrace it therefore (true will, in a way). The christian myth implies that only god should know good. But i would spin it into the opposite. The apple came from that tree. When she touched it it became clear she would understand what lies beyond, who or what brought her here. Infinite comprehension yet one step at a time (following the theme of infinite growth)
The 8 pointed star with a wheel or indicating its rotary movement can be a good indicator of aging and how nevertheless everything dies and decays. I would also much rather not get the spirit to be suffering constantly which the folklore you produced kinda does actualize. I thought about it more recently and it came over to me that spiritual fire to make the earth grow stronger is a lot like making art. So artist undertones do also fit. The 8 pointed star with 8 handles. A forcing of the electricity of desire that promotes will to change the very essence of the body. And it is kinda like psychic vampirism. Which the lore does also realize as "she would at least taste a part of life". So, 8 pointed star on womb or forehead, and 2 opposite sided (CW and CCW) 4 handled wheels.
This is getting good ngl.
ala 01/12/25(Sun)22:57:37 No.39622614
>>39617468
>>39617869
the 218 current is more like gnosticism in a way and it is that influence that makes me think that it would be more prone to see the flesh as a prison. i mentioned this in the doc but in some ways that is why i like o9a better because it is less averse to this life.
my stance on satanism is that it is something that should be sublated rather than embraced in itself. actually i might as well exposit my view on satanism while i am writing all this. to me satan is an embodiment of the force of "negativity". negation not only destroys but individuates. for there to be an individual entity, it must have some distinction from what it is not. think about the garden of eden where adam and eve ended up covering their bodies after eating after from the fruit. they gained self-consciousness. self-consciousness is a negation of the negation. one encounters an otherness but in knowing that other, they cancel the otherness. this is the true reason why satan and set are related and why both get connected to "individuality" in the church of satan and temple of set. negation without flesh and substance however is ultimately impotent and empty. thus most attempts at satanism are doomed to lapse back into some sort of paganism or humanism which imo is in some ways a step back but history twists and turns
desu this entity is not very satanic even in my abstract understanding of the term. because she is more about forming a connection to the divine sparks innate to the body. whats important to me is the fact that flesh is related dialectically in a cycle of procession and recession to spirit. so basically what >>39617869 said...
in some way what is going on here is an inverse or mirror christianity. whereas christ is the logos made flesh, hidweh is the flesh made logos. in some ways it is far more heretical than any satanism which often just repeats the key goals from other spiritual traditions just with the vague yearning to be "transgressive" or "antinomian"
>>39617869
the 218 current is more like gnosticism in a way and it is that influence that makes me think that it would be more prone to see the flesh as a prison. i mentioned this in the doc but in some ways that is why i like o9a better because it is less averse to this life.
my stance on satanism is that it is something that should be sublated rather than embraced in itself. actually i might as well exposit my view on satanism while i am writing all this. to me satan is an embodiment of the force of "negativity". negation not only destroys but individuates. for there to be an individual entity, it must have some distinction from what it is not. think about the garden of eden where adam and eve ended up covering their bodies after eating after from the fruit. they gained self-consciousness. self-consciousness is a negation of the negation. one encounters an otherness but in knowing that other, they cancel the otherness. this is the true reason why satan and set are related and why both get connected to "individuality" in the church of satan and temple of set. negation without flesh and substance however is ultimately impotent and empty. thus most attempts at satanism are doomed to lapse back into some sort of paganism or humanism which imo is in some ways a step back but history twists and turns
desu this entity is not very satanic even in my abstract understanding of the term. because she is more about forming a connection to the divine sparks innate to the body. whats important to me is the fact that flesh is related dialectically in a cycle of procession and recession to spirit. so basically what >>39617869 said...
in some way what is going on here is an inverse or mirror christianity. whereas christ is the logos made flesh, hidweh is the flesh made logos. in some ways it is far more heretical than any satanism which often just repeats the key goals from other spiritual traditions just with the vague yearning to be "transgressive" or "antinomian"
ala 01/12/25(Sun)23:46:36 No.39622887
>>39622590
the reason why i included the tree theme was actually connecting her back to inanna
>At the beginning of the hymn, Inanna knows nothing of sex,[207] so she begs her brother Utu to take her to Kur (the Sumerian underworld),[207] so that she may taste the fruit of a tree that grows there,[207] which will reveal to her all the secrets of sex.[207] Utu complies and, in Kur, Inanna tastes the fruit and becomes knowledgeable.[207]
note that i didnt put any mention of god in the myth because like you said its inappropriate. in my head she keeps the scar more of a reminder of her transformation. she has the fleshcrafting abilities to grow back eyes if she wanted but memories are important, and she is beyond needing mundane eyes to begin with
what i wrote is definitely missing the tones of strength and counter-natural movement. i guess we need another story for this side of things
>I thought about it more recently and it came over to me that spiritual fire to make the earth grow stronger is a lot like making art. So artist undertones do also fit
interesting point. i do see a connection also to the idea of ones body being ones art too
on the topic of a wheel, i realized putting on her forehead makes her look like she has a 3rd eye lol. i was thinking about it but actually since she has a necklace already that can be whats on it rather than the random eye i placed there for no reason
>and 2 opposite sided (CW and CCW) 4 handled wheels
good idea. was wondering abut how to make it look different from buddhist and kolovrat symbols! how does this look? actually i love how this turned out
the reason why i included the tree theme was actually connecting her back to inanna
>At the beginning of the hymn, Inanna knows nothing of sex,[207] so she begs her brother Utu to take her to Kur (the Sumerian underworld),[207] so that she may taste the fruit of a tree that grows there,[207] which will reveal to her all the secrets of sex.[207] Utu complies and, in Kur, Inanna tastes the fruit and becomes knowledgeable.[207]
note that i didnt put any mention of god in the myth because like you said its inappropriate. in my head she keeps the scar more of a reminder of her transformation. she has the fleshcrafting abilities to grow back eyes if she wanted but memories are important, and she is beyond needing mundane eyes to begin with
what i wrote is definitely missing the tones of strength and counter-natural movement. i guess we need another story for this side of things
>I thought about it more recently and it came over to me that spiritual fire to make the earth grow stronger is a lot like making art. So artist undertones do also fit
interesting point. i do see a connection also to the idea of ones body being ones art too
on the topic of a wheel, i realized putting on her forehead makes her look like she has a 3rd eye lol. i was thinking about it but actually since she has a necklace already that can be whats on it rather than the random eye i placed there for no reason
>and 2 opposite sided (CW and CCW) 4 handled wheels
good idea. was wondering abut how to make it look different from buddhist and kolovrat symbols! how does this look? actually i love how this turned out
ala 01/12/25(Sun)23:53:40 No.39622919
>>39622887
or actually the wheel can be on the head of the snake so we get this
or actually the wheel can be on the head of the snake so we get this
ala 01/13/25(Mon)00:17:06 No.39623004
>>39622919
actually thinking about it, switching positions makes more sense actually
>>39622614
btw expanding on the point about satanism, based on my little rant here are the two ways i see relation to satanism
1) satan is involved with individuation and the body must also be individuated from its environment
2) if she moves in the counter-natural direction one way vaguely see that as satanic or gnostic, but it is a current within time rather than just trying to transcend... the o9a has that idea of antinomian action being related to pushing against the current aeon, but it is sort of still couched in a naturalism? actually a random thought i had is that satan if you were to purify the concept even further would be difference-in-itself i.e. pure divergence so maybe there is a connection there. at any rate i take i believe this direction still has some level of impotency as i said before. there needs to be balance
take this post i made:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39554281/#39569712
basically i was in a trance writing this and there was a certain metaphysical vision in my head wherein the whole world was created though forces repulsion and attraction. you need both a striving and a counter-striving to have individuality, and in that thought there is the thought of the possibility of a living thing to come out of itself and consume another. paradoxically this force of cruelty is really the force of attraction or love. if all organisms were monads indifferent to one another, there would be no possibility for tension or evil. then there was there process church style ramblings on the union of christ and satan. lastly i put inanna as she was swimming in my mind as well
actually thinking about it, switching positions makes more sense actually
>>39622614
btw expanding on the point about satanism, based on my little rant here are the two ways i see relation to satanism
1) satan is involved with individuation and the body must also be individuated from its environment
2) if she moves in the counter-natural direction one way vaguely see that as satanic or gnostic, but it is a current within time rather than just trying to transcend... the o9a has that idea of antinomian action being related to pushing against the current aeon, but it is sort of still couched in a naturalism? actually a random thought i had is that satan if you were to purify the concept even further would be difference-in-itself i.e. pure divergence so maybe there is a connection there. at any rate i take i believe this direction still has some level of impotency as i said before. there needs to be balance
take this post i made:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread
basically i was in a trance writing this and there was a certain metaphysical vision in my head wherein the whole world was created though forces repulsion and attraction. you need both a striving and a counter-striving to have individuality, and in that thought there is the thought of the possibility of a living thing to come out of itself and consume another. paradoxically this force of cruelty is really the force of attraction or love. if all organisms were monads indifferent to one another, there would be no possibility for tension or evil. then there was there process church style ramblings on the union of christ and satan. lastly i put inanna as she was swimming in my mind as well
ala 01/13/25(Mon)00:19:02 No.39623014
ala 01/13/25(Mon)02:29:37 No.39623576
uhh so guys why is her face on the sun now?
>>39622069
>>39622069
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)02:37:12 No.39623610
ala 01/13/25(Mon)02:52:36 No.39623652
maybe this doesnt look too bad either
>>39623610
sad but true. desu this goes overlooked but o9a are partly based on witches and a big for them is "sinister empathy" or whatever. random unsolicited lore dump
>>39623610
sad but true. desu this goes overlooked but o9a are partly based on witches and a big for them is "sinister empathy" or whatever. random unsolicited lore dump
ala 01/13/25(Mon)03:30:56 No.39623755
final batch of designs before i go to sleep. going to sleep thinking about 2 synchronicities happening the day after this whole thing has started
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)08:08:17 No.39624507
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)12:11:36 No.39625775
>>39622887
I did a thing
I did a thing
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)14:14:24 No.39626632
>>39597107
Interesting.
Interesting.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)18:28:06 No.39628359
One ritual, i had in mind, going with the theme of pushing is the one of pushing the blood of your own body to go harder, stronger, against your bones. Like visualizing your blood as the red liquid, not the cells, and every time your heart beats the nutrients in your body are synthesized more easily. For the subtle body the same thing could be applied as you absorb the energy of the animals, dairy and the psychic energies you "consume". Push. Ever harder, ever stronger. Always forward.
I've done this and it has caused bone growth (vertical and horizontal) but i've had to keep other factors in check like sleep and cyrcadian rythms (caloric surplus is not necessary, contrary to what you might think). I'd call it the forwards heart beat.
I've done this and it has caused bone growth (vertical and horizontal) but i've had to keep other factors in check like sleep and cyrcadian rythms (caloric surplus is not necessary, contrary to what you might think). I'd call it the forwards heart beat.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)18:29:31 No.39628368
>>39628359
To describe it in more detail, i imagine im making my body go bazongas and everything i eat is being absorbed. Then i just, "push". With the energy of the food, and my light body or subtle body, however you like to call it.
To describe it in more detail, i imagine im making my body go bazongas and everything i eat is being absorbed. Then i just, "push". With the energy of the food, and my light body or subtle body, however you like to call it.
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)18:50:44 No.39628482
Also,>>39623652
i prefer the old design me personally.
Now, for the juicy part, how do we give it more energy? Right now its just a bit of a floating idea. It gets energy from attention, yes. But the intention behind anyone who gives her anything must not sway the spirit out of bounds. I.e, we dont want it to be a rebel like satan and end up hurting people (making em ugly asf, for example).
The intention or feeling i have in mind, is a mix of "hope" "commitment" and strength of will. I love the designs by the way, when i get some more free time ill add some things if possible. Also, >>39622887
this symbols is absolutely gorgeous. Exactly what i had in mind. Egregore going crazy rn.
Would be pretty helpful if you had a trip, but i don't know how those are made. I'd suggest this,
i prefer the old design me personally.
Now, for the juicy part, how do we give it more energy? Right now its just a bit of a floating idea. It gets energy from attention, yes. But the intention behind anyone who gives her anything must not sway the spirit out of bounds. I.e, we dont want it to be a rebel like satan and end up hurting people (making em ugly asf, for example).
The intention or feeling i have in mind, is a mix of "hope" "commitment" and strength of will. I love the designs by the way, when i get some more free time ill add some things if possible. Also, >>39622887
this symbols is absolutely gorgeous. Exactly what i had in mind. Egregore going crazy rn.
Would be pretty helpful if you had a trip, but i don't know how those are made. I'd suggest this,
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)19:47:00 No.39628772
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)20:14:05 No.39628926
ala 01/13/25(Mon)21:03:53 No.39629190
>>39624507
why are you so obsessed with the union jack
>>39625775
ok this one looks sleek
>>39628482
i like the scythe look here too
>Now, for the juicy part, how do we give it more energy?
in my mind there are two sides of the egregore: energy and substance
energy is basically the classical magickal notion in which we charge the egregore with desire, invocation, prayer as well as reading and writing texts about the egregore (perhaps especially poetry which is the type of thing you read and reread over and over again). it helps in strengthening the mental complex of associations that is the egregore and helping them become a unified entity and powerful impression
substance meanwhile is basically building a morphic habits involving visualization (both in minds eye and felt within the body) or enactments of signs associated with the entity while engaging in virtuous psychosomatic action so these symbolic actions will make certain practices easier by habit
i feel like both sides complement each other and maybe keep things in check. i feel like the morphic side of things is harder for it to result in bad effects as its dependent of the practices of people feeling this egregore substance. i like ideas for feelings to channel into the egregore, and actually ive written some prayer ideas and stuff today while i was busy that sort of touch on this a little bit
>>39628359
interesting idea. i personally try to go more with feeling rather than visualization. must common thing for me would be to channel some feeling of some part of my body changing with an out breath
>i've had to keep other factors in check like sleep and cyrcadian rythms
why? also on this thought desu have you noticed weird bodily reactions while doing this stuff like more tired/hungry/sore?
>Would be pretty helpful if you had a trip, I'd suggest this,
were you going to write more? also trip as in like acid trip?
why are you so obsessed with the union jack
>>39625775
ok this one looks sleek
>>39628482
i like the scythe look here too
>Now, for the juicy part, how do we give it more energy?
in my mind there are two sides of the egregore: energy and substance
energy is basically the classical magickal notion in which we charge the egregore with desire, invocation, prayer as well as reading and writing texts about the egregore (perhaps especially poetry which is the type of thing you read and reread over and over again). it helps in strengthening the mental complex of associations that is the egregore and helping them become a unified entity and powerful impression
substance meanwhile is basically building a morphic habits involving visualization (both in minds eye and felt within the body) or enactments of signs associated with the entity while engaging in virtuous psychosomatic action so these symbolic actions will make certain practices easier by habit
i feel like both sides complement each other and maybe keep things in check. i feel like the morphic side of things is harder for it to result in bad effects as its dependent of the practices of people feeling this egregore substance. i like ideas for feelings to channel into the egregore, and actually ive written some prayer ideas and stuff today while i was busy that sort of touch on this a little bit
>>39628359
interesting idea. i personally try to go more with feeling rather than visualization. must common thing for me would be to channel some feeling of some part of my body changing with an out breath
>i've had to keep other factors in check like sleep and cyrcadian rythms
why? also on this thought desu have you noticed weird bodily reactions while doing this stuff like more tired/hungry/sore?
>Would be pretty helpful if you had a trip, I'd suggest this,
were you going to write more? also trip as in like acid trip?
ala 01/13/25(Mon)21:10:18 No.39629233
>>39629190
here are prayers things i came up with (also i drew 2 union jack ones for the memes while i was away lol):
Prayer 1:
>Loved mother in flesh
>Your fire feed all
>And thunder practice
>You shall ascend to earth
>And pervade life and death
>Connect us to blood
>And our bones to hear
>The strength to change
>Amen
Prayer 1.2:
>Loved mother in flesh
>Your fire feed all, red milk glowing so bright,
>And thunder practice, against our souls we fight
>You shall ascend to earth, with your presence now felt,
>And pervade life and death
>Connect us to blood
>And our bones to hear
>The strength to change
>Amen
Invocation 1 (generally modelled on Liber Astarte):
>Genius of meat
>Genius of bone
>Your fire turns soul
>And blood our spirit
>May our work give you substance
>Your form within it
>And your dominion once more
>In marriage flesh and wisp
>May we have discipline to warp
>Spiritual marrow with kiss
>And the fluidity of mind
>For fluidity of flesh
>Hear our blood
>Hear our pulse
>(… Contemplate desire, hopes, personal feelings, etc)
>Hail Hidweh, great womb of change
>We call upon Iopya, our senses derange
>Hail Hidweh, in sinew its might
>We call upon Iopya, our muscles in fright
>Hail Hidweh, ripper of bra
>We call upon Iopya, end of our way
>Hail Hidweh, we stand ever so pious
>We call upon Iopya, beauty so hideous
>(…)
>Let us make communion
>You lover for all
>Genitals in union
>Your milk enters our lips
>Mother protect us
>As we explore the guts
>Of our soul and our spirit
>In excess lots
here are prayers things i came up with (also i drew 2 union jack ones for the memes while i was away lol):
Prayer 1:
>Loved mother in flesh
>Your fire feed all
>And thunder practice
>You shall ascend to earth
>And pervade life and death
>Connect us to blood
>And our bones to hear
>The strength to change
>Amen
Prayer 1.2:
>Loved mother in flesh
>Your fire feed all, red milk glowing so bright,
>And thunder practice, against our souls we fight
>You shall ascend to earth, with your presence now felt,
>And pervade life and death
>Connect us to blood
>And our bones to hear
>The strength to change
>Amen
Invocation 1 (generally modelled on Liber Astarte):
>Genius of meat
>Genius of bone
>Your fire turns soul
>And blood our spirit
>May our work give you substance
>Your form within it
>And your dominion once more
>In marriage flesh and wisp
>May we have discipline to warp
>Spiritual marrow with kiss
>And the fluidity of mind
>For fluidity of flesh
>Hear our blood
>Hear our pulse
>(… Contemplate desire, hopes, personal feelings, etc)
>Hail Hidweh, great womb of change
>We call upon Iopya, our senses derange
>Hail Hidweh, in sinew its might
>We call upon Iopya, our muscles in fright
>Hail Hidweh, ripper of bra
>We call upon Iopya, end of our way
>Hail Hidweh, we stand ever so pious
>We call upon Iopya, beauty so hideous
>(…)
>Let us make communion
>You lover for all
>Genitals in union
>Your milk enters our lips
>Mother protect us
>As we explore the guts
>Of our soul and our spirit
>In excess lots
ala 01/13/25(Mon)21:20:18 No.39629299
>>39628772
the egregore is going crazy (dont take this post seriously)
the egregore is going crazy (dont take this post seriously)
Anonymous 01/13/25(Mon)22:05:46 No.39629537
ala 01/14/25(Tue)01:23:20 No.39630434
thinking about it another form of spelling for the pure name of the entity may be E(reshkigal)-O(din)-P(an)-Ya(ldabaoth) though i might still write iopya (or pronounce "yopya") it that way because it flows better. however this complete transformation of the name will be useful as a cast out of which another invocation can be written. im thinking of writing a new one based upon this idea from the liber astarte:
>Concerning the prime method of this Magick Art. Let the devotee consider well that although Christ and Osiris be one, yet the former is to be worshipped with Christian, and the latter with Egyptian rites. And this although the rites themselves are ceremonially equivalent. There should, however, be one symbol declaring the transcending of such limitations; and with regard to the Deity also, there should be some one affirmation of his identity both with all other similar gods of other nations, and with the Supreme of whom all are but partial reflections.
>>39629537
omg i was just talking about this here too >>39623004
pattern noticed
>Concerning the prime method of this Magick Art. Let the devotee consider well that although Christ and Osiris be one, yet the former is to be worshipped with Christian, and the latter with Egyptian rites. And this although the rites themselves are ceremonially equivalent. There should, however, be one symbol declaring the transcending of such limitations; and with regard to the Deity also, there should be some one affirmation of his identity both with all other similar gods of other nations, and with the Supreme of whom all are but partial reflections.
>>39629537
omg i was just talking about this here too >>39623004
pattern noticed
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)01:25:48 No.39630441
>>39585311
the vaccines were a hoax, and its mostly just negative energy. All is energy the question is how do we use it.
the vaccines were a hoax, and its mostly just negative energy. All is energy the question is how do we use it.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)02:19:45 No.39630655
Well, I guess all I need to do to get the life I want is to:
1- Master lucid dreaming
2-Get a sense of what I want to change and how.
3- Feel it, visualize it and manifest it.
4-Explore the changes and become that what I wish to be.
5-Embrace them.
1- Master lucid dreaming
2-Get a sense of what I want to change and how.
3- Feel it, visualize it and manifest it.
4-Explore the changes and become that what I wish to be.
5-Embrace them.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)02:22:09 No.39630664
ala 01/14/25(Tue)02:26:55 No.39630684
>>39630434
also wth wait after doing that you 4+4 names and they can correspond to the wheel like so
hidweh - liminal, concentric
eopya - chaos, excentric
eopya moves outward but her love is so impossibly strong that it is terrifying. think of the ein soph. the organism applies tzimtzum on itself to stay function, hence blinding it from her grace. the inward motion of hipweh places a restraint and also gives her more definite form. a face that ultimately attracts us closer
there is a duality, but it is a unilateral duality. from the pov of chaos there is oneness, but from the vantage point of the liminal, there is difference... eopya is a love that is both stretches forth to all yet is also indifferent to individuation. objectless love
also wth wait after doing that you 4+4 names and they can correspond to the wheel like so
hidweh - liminal, concentric
eopya - chaos, excentric
eopya moves outward but her love is so impossibly strong that it is terrifying. think of the ein soph. the organism applies tzimtzum on itself to stay function, hence blinding it from her grace. the inward motion of hipweh places a restraint and also gives her more definite form. a face that ultimately attracts us closer
there is a duality, but it is a unilateral duality. from the pov of chaos there is oneness, but from the vantage point of the liminal, there is difference... eopya is a love that is both stretches forth to all yet is also indifferent to individuation. objectless love
ala 01/14/25(Tue)04:26:22 No.39631065
>>39630684
ok the lack on contrast of the text really sucks when the image is collapsed like this lol
>>39630655
>>39630664
you wanna be a doll? thats so cute anon and sorta relatable. i wonder whether its possible to do dream control without being lucid, like setting some precedent before sleeping? i guess sats is something similar though it doesnt target the dreaming state. anyways gl
ok the lack on contrast of the text really sucks when the image is collapsed like this lol
>>39630655
>>39630664
you wanna be a doll? thats so cute anon and sorta relatable. i wonder whether its possible to do dream control without being lucid, like setting some precedent before sleeping? i guess sats is something similar though it doesnt target the dreaming state. anyways gl
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)06:46:44 No.39631576
biohacking is as close as you will want to get due to erroneous feedback from your environment concerning biokinesis
ala 01/14/25(Tue)15:35:15 No.39634282
>>39631576
i do think biohacking is a thing that we will see much more in the future
>due to erroneous feedback from your environment
could you elaborate on this point?
i do think biohacking is a thing that we will see much more in the future
>due to erroneous feedback from your environment
could you elaborate on this point?
Toldya 01/14/25(Tue)15:52:53 No.39634369
>>39585311
The human genome can not be patented, but BNT162b2 is patented, and it reverse transcribes to the cell line, goes to the gamates, and is fouund in the mothers breast milk. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35723296/
So doesnt this mean people who are genetically unmodified are freemen and those who got it are marked/slaves.
The human genome can not be patented, but BNT162b2 is patented, and it reverse transcribes to the cell line, goes to the gamates, and is fouund in the mothers breast milk. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/357
So doesnt this mean people who are genetically unmodified are freemen and those who got it are marked/slaves.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:04:07 No.39634428
>>39630664
>>39631065
me? I want to become a nordic albino man. (im already a man btw)
also ala: Acosmic Gnosticism is pretty cool I guess, o9A\TOB seemed very saddening (as is: those guys are sad) because they talk about messing with other people's live, "planting acausal energy" and fucking them up...talk about being an esoteric busybody.
Ein Sof is a rabbit hole.
>>39631065
me? I want to become a nordic albino man. (im already a man btw)
also ala: Acosmic Gnosticism is pretty cool I guess, o9A\TOB seemed very saddening (as is: those guys are sad) because they talk about messing with other people's live, "planting acausal energy" and fucking them up...talk about being an esoteric busybody.
Ein Sof is a rabbit hole.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:08:23 No.39634460
>>39634428
I heard that O9A is feds but they became feds to be more powerful not that they are a honeypot, any info on this?
I heard that O9A is feds but they became feds to be more powerful not that they are a honeypot, any info on this?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:15:04 No.39634512
>>39634460
I think only tob is feds. even so, o9a is br*tish, so do they even HAVE feds there? or mi5\mi6\scotland yard...
I think o9a isn't necessarily feds but, even so, it's genuinely disgusting ethically ,and even esoterically
>pic is from a TOB internal manual
I think only tob is feds. even so, o9a is br*tish, so do they even HAVE feds there? or mi5\mi6\scotland yard...
I think o9a isn't necessarily feds but, even so, it's genuinely disgusting ethically ,and even esoterically
>pic is from a TOB internal manual
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)16:15:52 No.39634523
>>39634369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hzXaShwlk&ab_channel=TheLateShowwithStephenColbert The vaccine is a humilation ritual and its a occultist group making a race of cattle with them at the top. Inb4 why are some vaxxies successful, its a racially targeted weapon that spares chinese and Ashkenazi jews. Its like people from christianity who can do miiracles if you are religious enough/close enough to the cause you get energy going up like a middle tier person in a pyramid scheme, while 99.9% of people are giving energy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hzXaShwlk&ab_channel=TheLateShowwithStephenColbert Colbert wearing submissive kitty ears while getting vaccinated was his humilation ritual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6h
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)19:41:05 No.39635811
>>39629190
why is the union jack so closely related to Ishtar???? wHY is it so closely related to this symbol. you know exactly what i am talking about, why dont u want to actually give information, instead of
>>39629233
>Prayer 1:
>>Loved mother in flesh
>>Your fire feed all
>>And thunder practice
>>You shall ascend to earth
>>And pervade life and death
why is the uk, usa, australia got a similar flag to that spinning Mesopotamian shape. nigger out
TMJDP
Talk Much Jester Dick Power
why is the union jack so closely related to Ishtar???? wHY is it so closely related to this symbol. you know exactly what i am talking about, why dont u want to actually give information, instead of
>>39629233
>Prayer 1:
>>Loved mother in flesh
>>Your fire feed all
>>And thunder practice
>>You shall ascend to earth
>>And pervade life and death
why is the uk, usa, australia got a similar flag to that spinning Mesopotamian shape. nigger out
TMJDP
Talk Much Jester Dick Power
ala 01/14/25(Tue)20:01:49 No.39635973
>>39635811
queen cult...
desu i think its because it is a cross on top of a cross on top of a cross. the flag of england and scotland are both crosses. where is some 4+4 numerology going on there which does ironically resonate a bit with >>39630684. you notice that the ishtar star is also 4+4. no one knows why the mesapotamians did it but there seems to be an emerging theme in all of this of complementary forces. the innovation with hidwehs sign is that these complementary spokes are now of wheels so they are no longer incommensurate but now interact through rotary motion
>>39634428
>become a nordic albino man
hot, though why did you post those pics about being a perfect dolly lol
>>39634512
desu even the non-fed ones do what that anon is talking about to an extent
see here:
https://youtu.be/WGTFXCfGzkE?si=to31D72ooJwMwOSE&t=865
though it isn't completely malicious. its more like to force a trial by fire transformation in that person
though the stuff about culling and terrorism generally fed stuff, though because of fed influence there are random enclaves and larpers who do a bunch of dodgy stuff by taking influence from tob garbage. these people usually dont produce anything of value intellectually or spiritual on their own though
queen cult...
desu i think its because it is a cross on top of a cross on top of a cross. the flag of england and scotland are both crosses. where is some 4+4 numerology going on there which does ironically resonate a bit with >>39630684. you notice that the ishtar star is also 4+4. no one knows why the mesapotamians did it but there seems to be an emerging theme in all of this of complementary forces. the innovation with hidwehs sign is that these complementary spokes are now of wheels so they are no longer incommensurate but now interact through rotary motion
>>39634428
>become a nordic albino man
hot, though why did you post those pics about being a perfect dolly lol
>>39634512
desu even the non-fed ones do what that anon is talking about to an extent
see here:
https://youtu.be/WGTFXCfGzkE?si=to3
though it isn't completely malicious. its more like to force a trial by fire transformation in that person
though the stuff about culling and terrorism generally fed stuff, though because of fed influence there are random enclaves and larpers who do a bunch of dodgy stuff by taking influence from tob garbage. these people usually dont produce anything of value intellectually or spiritual on their own though
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)20:33:03 No.39636196
>>39635973
>flag of england and scotland are both crosses. where is some 4+4 numerology go
bro why does the usa have a similar flag to ishtar's star?
woman controlling the lions.
lions being a man.
y is they controlling the man, the lion.
y do most western culture revolve around this?
y did the British adopt this? seems too similar to not be a copy.
explain more on how it is a queen cult, dont gatekeep
>flag of england and scotland are both crosses. where is some 4+4 numerology go
bro why does the usa have a similar flag to ishtar's star?
woman controlling the lions.
lions being a man.
y is they controlling the man, the lion.
y do most western culture revolve around this?
y did the British adopt this? seems too similar to not be a copy.
explain more on how it is a queen cult, dont gatekeep
ala 01/14/25(Tue)21:13:08 No.39636440
>>39636196
i just said queen cult because ishtar is a queen and when i think of britain i think "god save the queen" lol. idk if you are baiting, but if not australia, new zealand, etc have similar flags bcs they were british colonies. idk why the british adopted them might just be a synchronicity. also i think she controls lions because of association with war. shes meant to be fierce
if you really want to start spinning conspiracies think about bohemian grove. the owl they sacrifice to is the owl of minerva which is a goddess that belongs to the ishtar spectrum. also it has been said that astaroth rules over north america. astaroth being based on astarte being based on ishtar too. pretty fun connections. if you are being serious idk what it all means if it means anything at all
i just said queen cult because ishtar is a queen and when i think of britain i think "god save the queen" lol. idk if you are baiting, but if not australia, new zealand, etc have similar flags bcs they were british colonies. idk why the british adopted them might just be a synchronicity. also i think she controls lions because of association with war. shes meant to be fierce
if you really want to start spinning conspiracies think about bohemian grove. the owl they sacrifice to is the owl of minerva which is a goddess that belongs to the ishtar spectrum. also it has been said that astaroth rules over north america. astaroth being based on astarte being based on ishtar too. pretty fun connections. if you are being serious idk what it all means if it means anything at all
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)21:30:11 No.39636559
>>39636196
>idk why the british adopted them might just be a synchronicity
well do i have something to tell u, it was not a synchronicity. now that we understand it wasnt synchronicity, why would the uk have the same flag as ishtar's star? but with some jester colours.
why is the jester flag also one of the worlds superpowers, that jester colour way is apart of, USA, Russia, UK, Australia, NZ
maybe bc we are apart of some divine joke
purple and white?
kinda sounds like im right
>idk why the british adopted them might just be a synchronicity
well do i have something to tell u, it was not a synchronicity. now that we understand it wasnt synchronicity, why would the uk have the same flag as ishtar's star? but with some jester colours.
why is the jester flag also one of the worlds superpowers, that jester colour way is apart of, USA, Russia, UK, Australia, NZ
maybe bc we are apart of some divine joke
purple and white?
kinda sounds like im right
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)21:38:06 No.39636614
>>39630684
So, what are the names we stickin' with?
eopya
hidweh?
That makes sense. She spins the wheel twice forward, 2 times backward. Like a doll, animating it more than it can sustain, so the body MUST adapt. Else the energy is wasted.
So, what are the names we stickin' with?
eopya
hidweh?
That makes sense. She spins the wheel twice forward, 2 times backward. Like a doll, animating it more than it can sustain, so the body MUST adapt. Else the energy is wasted.
ala 01/15/25(Wed)00:03:25 No.39637375
>>39636614
>eopya
>hidweh?
i think those are the names we can stick with yes. they are used depending on context. like in this >>39629233 invocation i intermixed both depending on what association in the duality i was hitting at
also thats a cool interpretation. interesting doll metaphors are popping up
>eopya
>hidweh?
i think those are the names we can stick with yes. they are used depending on context. like in this >>39629233 invocation i intermixed both depending on what association in the duality i was hitting at
also thats a cool interpretation. interesting doll metaphors are popping up
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)02:45:01 No.39637907
no
ala 01/15/25(Wed)02:45:17 No.39637910
also im thinking of a bit of how to structure a weekly sacred rite like a mass (no not a black one lol) or something like that but im guessing might need to write more myth. then the rite can involve enacting different parts of those myths? would be nice to get more people interested in writing on board though need to find or attract them...
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:21:32 No.39639971
>>39637910
crowely's gnostic mass?
crowely's gnostic mass?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:28:24 No.39640006
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:32:06 No.39640034
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)17:54:39 No.39642180
>>39606698
lol enjoy the spinal displasia in 30 years
lol enjoy the spinal displasia in 30 years
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)17:55:40 No.39642183
>>39607333
because its fanfiction and not even useful fan fiction
because its fanfiction and not even useful fan fiction
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)17:59:15 No.39642197
>>39607787
simulate it using perfumes, incenses, And VR
simulate it using perfumes, incenses, And VR
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:02:59 No.39642218
>>39590523
oh is that why being a homeless hid makes u crazy smart? no wonder they get most of em spun out damn. didnt realise that.
oh is that why being a homeless hid makes u crazy smart? no wonder they get most of em spun out damn. didnt realise that.
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:04:10 No.39642225
>>39592815
dude just meditate freely 3 times a week instead for that one, and exercise at least twice. u will start getting all kinds of foresights and insights and shit.
dude just meditate freely 3 times a week instead for that one, and exercise at least twice. u will start getting all kinds of foresights and insights and shit.
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:05:11 No.39642229
>>39597435
Ive tried to self eliminate fibromyalgia, didnt work. everything else ive tried has.
Ive tried to self eliminate fibromyalgia, didnt work. everything else ive tried has.
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:06:54 No.39642245
>>39598453
falsies and taint exercises.
>>39600776
just literally relax ur fucking butthole more often then dude. root chakra shit. its not that complicated.
falsies and taint exercises.
>>39600776
just literally relax ur fucking butthole more often then dude. root chakra shit. its not that complicated.
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:08:55 No.39642256
>>39637375
ummmmmmm isnt eponia like, a horse....?
ummmmmmm isnt eponia like, a horse....?
Bitchdoctor 01/15/25(Wed)18:21:11 No.39642315
>>39637910
just get like 4 ordinations online from bodies of your choosing then confuse people at bars. the rest happens organically. dont start a cult tho.
just get like 4 ordinations online from bodies of your choosing then confuse people at bars. the rest happens organically. dont start a cult tho.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:31:26 No.39642934
>>39637910
Its an internet made egregore. So i think non physical mass is okay. Going with the vampiric theme we should also give it the energy of demons (not in demonic nature, but more like digesting the evil of the world, like minor evil spirits). + Normal energy with good intention. Hope. Strength.
Its an internet made egregore. So i think non physical mass is okay. Going with the vampiric theme we should also give it the energy of demons (not in demonic nature, but more like digesting the evil of the world, like minor evil spirits). + Normal energy with good intention. Hope. Strength.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:32:27 No.39642941
ala 01/15/25(Wed)21:07:09 No.39643119
>>39642256
Curious
>>39642315
what exactly is the difference between an egregore and a cult? the purpose of the "mass" is like regular psychodrama energetically feeding the egregore
ideally it should be something one can practice on their own or in a group
>>39642934
>Going with the vampiric theme we should also give it the energy of demons (not in demonic nature, but more like digesting the evil of the world, like minor evil spirits)
maybe can mix this with almost sabbatean themes. absorb the evils of the world through psychic vampirism and offer them for cleansing via digestion. or just offer karmic influences and other such thing one has already allowed to enter their soul. nice idea
Curious
>>39642315
what exactly is the difference between an egregore and a cult? the purpose of the "mass" is like regular psychodrama energetically feeding the egregore
ideally it should be something one can practice on their own or in a group
>>39642934
>Going with the vampiric theme we should also give it the energy of demons (not in demonic nature, but more like digesting the evil of the world, like minor evil spirits)
maybe can mix this with almost sabbatean themes. absorb the evils of the world through psychic vampirism and offer them for cleansing via digestion. or just offer karmic influences and other such thing one has already allowed to enter their soul. nice idea
ala 01/16/25(Thu)03:07:34 No.39645021
>>39629233
oh yeah for this invocation i came up with some things to along with it, but this isn't meant to be like a mass. the mass should like reinforce values and "archetypes" that are integral to the egregore as a project
Idea for invocation (basic)
>Clear mind of thought for a a number breath cycles that is a multiple of 8
>(Optional: get oneself aroused)
>Pour a glass of milk and place it near you
>Chant the invocation
>Offer Hidweh the opportunity to share in ingesting the milk
>Dwell in her presence while gradually sipping the milk. When done with your milk dwell longer
>Afterwards, thank her and dispose of the other glass of milk by drinking it
Idea for invocation (advanced)
>Clear mind of thought for a a number breath cycles that is a multiple of 8
>(Optional: get oneself aroused)
>Charge energy into one’s dan tian while visualizing the spirit-fire
>Chant the invocation
>Offer to share in the energy channeled into one’s dan tian. If necessary reheat the dan tian. Sit for a while as the heat in one’s body fades while contemplating the presence of Hidweh and then dwell yet a little longer. Thank the egregore
>Circulate ones energies through microcosmic orbit spreading out the warmth while visualizing the duowheel
(note here i called the wheel symbol thing a duowheel... i think an interesting idea would be to use the duowheel as a sort of prayer bead for counting repetitions for something like for instance in this case repetitions of orbits. the order can follow this >>39630684 here)
oh yeah for this invocation i came up with some things to along with it, but this isn't meant to be like a mass. the mass should like reinforce values and "archetypes" that are integral to the egregore as a project
Idea for invocation (basic)
>Clear mind of thought for a a number breath cycles that is a multiple of 8
>(Optional: get oneself aroused)
>Pour a glass of milk and place it near you
>Chant the invocation
>Offer Hidweh the opportunity to share in ingesting the milk
>Dwell in her presence while gradually sipping the milk. When done with your milk dwell longer
>Afterwards, thank her and dispose of the other glass of milk by drinking it
Idea for invocation (advanced)
>Clear mind of thought for a a number breath cycles that is a multiple of 8
>(Optional: get oneself aroused)
>Charge energy into one’s dan tian while visualizing the spirit-fire
>Chant the invocation
>Offer to share in the energy channeled into one’s dan tian. If necessary reheat the dan tian. Sit for a while as the heat in one’s body fades while contemplating the presence of Hidweh and then dwell yet a little longer. Thank the egregore
>Circulate ones energies through microcosmic orbit spreading out the warmth while visualizing the duowheel
(note here i called the wheel symbol thing a duowheel... i think an interesting idea would be to use the duowheel as a sort of prayer bead for counting repetitions for something like for instance in this case repetitions of orbits. the order can follow this >>39630684 here)
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)05:43:01 No.39645478
Maybe I'm just really tired, but it doesn't look like any of the replies here have to do with what the OP was talking about.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)06:44:57 No.39645665
ala 01/16/25(Thu)10:56:59 No.39646855
>>39645478
see here:
>>39600421
>>39588914
>>39606698
also i just realized i could elaborate a bit more on why i got into biokinesis in the first place. maybe later
see here:
>>39600421
>>39588914
>>39606698
also i just realized i could elaborate a bit more on why i got into biokinesis in the first place. maybe later
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:09:54 No.39646915
>>39587639
This actually work but is slowly think very cell needs to move where you want it and it takes time
This actually work but is slowly think very cell needs to move where you want it and it takes time
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)17:01:56 No.39649016
>>39613538
>im less interested in blood as something that evokes blood letting, but rather as something that contains memories that one may be submerged within or ingested. maybe there is another way to really include these ideas though
>A few mystery religions taught the existence of another river, the Mnemosyne; those who drank from the Mnemosyne would remember everything and attain omniscience. Initiates were taught that they would receive a choice of rivers to drink from after death, and to drink from Mnemosyne instead of Lethe.
>im less interested in blood as something that evokes blood letting, but rather as something that contains memories that one may be submerged within or ingested. maybe there is another way to really include these ideas though
>A few mystery religions taught the existence of another river, the Mnemosyne; those who drank from the Mnemosyne would remember everything and attain omniscience. Initiates were taught that they would receive a choice of rivers to drink from after death, and to drink from Mnemosyne instead of Lethe.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)17:06:06 No.39649040
>>39585262
I fixed my eyes through meditation and eye exercises.
Needed glasses against astigmatism before, now I can see well without them.
I fixed my eyes through meditation and eye exercises.
Needed glasses against astigmatism before, now I can see well without them.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)17:09:14 No.39649061
>>39646855
Time to find people. Time to supercharge my existence myself. The egregore must be more awake. So awake. Very powerful.
Let us be consistent in our efforts. Until then, make a tripcode if possible. Not necessary. Ill activate it in a ritual involving a lot of electricity so if yall dont hear from me again is cuz im off 4chan or just dead. Spirit is cute as hell so ill give it all my effort. Ill also post some results. Of course.
Time to find people. Time to supercharge my existence myself. The egregore must be more awake. So awake. Very powerful.
Let us be consistent in our efforts. Until then, make a tripcode if possible. Not necessary. Ill activate it in a ritual involving a lot of electricity so if yall dont hear from me again is cuz im off 4chan or just dead. Spirit is cute as hell so ill give it all my effort. Ill also post some results. Of course.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)18:09:28 No.39649445
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)20:45:47 No.39650329
>>39589086
>>39589067
https://www.amazon.com/Way-Shaft-Revolutionary-harnessing-unstoppable-ebook/dp/B093CJJH87
+ fasting while taking the test boosting gummies or pills
>>39589067
https://www.amazon.com/Way-Shaft-Re
+ fasting while taking the test boosting gummies or pills
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)20:47:36 No.39650339
>>39597741
Wolf's Law + a diet change
use yt-dl or jdownloader to back up good videos so you can reupload them if they get removed.
Wolf's Law + a diet change
use yt-dl or jdownloader to back up good videos so you can reupload them if they get removed.
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/17/25(Fri)01:48:40 No.39651628
>>39649040
cool. i should get to that sometime. what exercises did you do?
cool. i should get to that sometime. what exercises did you do?
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/17/25(Fri)04:23:52 No.39652025
>>39649061
godspeed anon, or rather may the janus goddess of flesh bless you with lightning. take this drawing with you. i also left means of contacting me in the red ocean doc just in case
godspeed anon, or rather may the janus goddess of flesh bless you with lightning. take this drawing with you. i also left means of contacting me in the red ocean doc just in case
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)04:47:20 No.39652078
This is a bit new agey but I think crop circles are the precursors to DNA and by looking at them you can change the paths you go down in life
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:17:21 No.39652158
>>39585262
This can't take things as far as I want it.
I want to be as I am in my dreams, but I can't do that here. I don't even think I am allowed to be as I am in my dreams here.
Energy best used in other locations.
This can't take things as far as I want it.
I want to be as I am in my dreams, but I can't do that here. I don't even think I am allowed to be as I am in my dreams here.
Energy best used in other locations.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:30:07 No.39654147
>>39594099
People dont trust Indians on that stuff.
People dont trust Indians on that stuff.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:13:40 No.39656918
>>39652078
How
How
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)21:46:55 No.39657495
>>39652078
What the actual fuck did you mean by that?
What the actual fuck did you mean by that?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)03:18:43 No.39659081
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)11:55:27 No.39660815
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)17:48:25 No.39662677
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:08:24 No.39663269
>>39662677
what does this mean
what does this mean
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)22:26:05 No.39665231
>>39649061
how to tripcode?
how to tripcode?
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/19/25(Sun)02:24:36 No.39666901
>>39659081
what else do you suggest anon? currently im writing a story, and after that might base another ritual on it perhaps
what else do you suggest anon? currently im writing a story, and after that might base another ritual on it perhaps
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/19/25(Sun)05:51:56 No.39667838
>>39665231
also write # + text in the namefield. i am only using this identity to attach things to a "brand" though. even pseudoanonymity can be annoying sometimes
tomorrow i think i will finally finish this thing ive been writing
also write # + text in the namefield. i am only using this identity to attach things to a "brand" though. even pseudoanonymity can be annoying sometimes
tomorrow i think i will finally finish this thing ive been writing
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)12:34:06 No.39669572
>>39667838
are you posting the story itt if its still up?
are you posting the story itt if its still up?
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/19/25(Sun)17:11:35 No.39671267
>>39669572
that's the plan which is why im helping keep this thread alive
that's the plan which is why im helping keep this thread alive
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/19/25(Sun)20:31:05 No.39672535
finished the short story finally lol
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSDSWfgPm63n-4XhO0aYvlVZIy19u57c55a6hbBX8tfymOC6EHfQBd3N3RfdOOWNpow-7O1Twz8H-gM/pub
>>39642934
>>39622590
i hope this story gets more to the themes you are attracted to. it also recontextualizes where she gets her scar from
one thing interesting about christianity is that it addressed certain extreme religious practices by sort of inverting them and making god partake in them. a bunch of religious forms get addressed but im not sure if they get so inverted... maybe that's for another tale. anyways hope the story is at least a bit entertaining
https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>>39642934
>>39622590
i hope this story gets more to the themes you are attracted to. it also recontextualizes where she gets her scar from
one thing interesting about christianity is that it addressed certain extreme religious practices by sort of inverting them and making god partake in them. a bunch of religious forms get addressed but im not sure if they get so inverted... maybe that's for another tale. anyways hope the story is at least a bit entertaining
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)01:51:12 No.39674382
cervix bump
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)04:40:53 No.39675225
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:12:30 No.39675305
ok i guess i will write a run down of some major ideas that have been floating around my mind for some mind now that lead me to a deep interest in biokinesis. the red ocean document includes a lot of sources and vaguely explains what is interesting about them, but it does not synthesize all of it into a coherent narrative. i will try and do that here. i am going to go pretty deep here though im going to try and leave out some information for undisclosed reasons. quite there is a larger board game which i plan on playing than just this.
there are honestly a lot of trajectories to get where i am currently, but i will start with what basically got me started. this came from a meditation on consciousness. ive developed my understanding of the hard problem to a point that it is rather idiosyncratic. at the end it lead me to a few key ideas:
1) consciousness has causal efficacy, otherwise we would not be able to have contact with it
2) a major aspect of consciousness is temporality
3) some aspects of the hard problem consciousness actually may trace their genesis to the issues of hylomorphism
the first point is important to consider as it must be first admitted to get around the question as to why animals do not just evolve to be p-zombies. it is because tuning into consciousness has definite utility. i ultimately end up seeing this idea some degree of objective idealism after developing it enough wherein qualitative phenomenon actually exist in the objective world. it isn't just what we are immediately conscious of which possesses quality. this already expands our awareness of what things are possible
there are honestly a lot of trajectories to get where i am currently, but i will start with what basically got me started. this came from a meditation on consciousness. ive developed my understanding of the hard problem to a point that it is rather idiosyncratic. at the end it lead me to a few key ideas:
1) consciousness has causal efficacy, otherwise we would not be able to have contact with it
2) a major aspect of consciousness is temporality
3) some aspects of the hard problem consciousness actually may trace their genesis to the issues of hylomorphism
the first point is important to consider as it must be first admitted to get around the question as to why animals do not just evolve to be p-zombies. it is because tuning into consciousness has definite utility. i ultimately end up seeing this idea some degree of objective idealism after developing it enough wherein qualitative phenomenon actually exist in the objective world. it isn't just what we are immediately conscious of which possesses quality. this already expands our awareness of what things are possible
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:13:49 No.39675308
>>39675305
the second point is really the most influential thing for me which i got from finding about stephen robbins's articles on bergson. in them, he gave a reformulation of the hard problem of consciousness that made it centrally focused on formulating a coherent theory of perception. a key player for his thought was ecological psychology. it talked about perception involving the extraction of optical flow out of the environment, and skillful actions resting on the implementation of the right control laws. a key point in all of this is perception being intimately related to the action potentials of the body. hence the form of the body is the transcendental condition for human experience. so a lot more is at stake in biokinesis that just looking pretty. resonant to ecological psychology are ideas such as embodied psychology, conceptual metaphor and the 4e thesis of cognition. all of these ideas add more and more credit to the thought that our bodies actually play a far more integral role than we give it credit. it becomes more and more plausible that the body itself is capable of some sort of cognition on its own. these were thoughts i was starting to unironically have before i had ever even heard of michael levin. when that guy came along, it was like my unhinged thought process was being vindicated before my very eyes, but this means so was the apocalyptic possibility that sarkicism is actually real
the second point is really the most influential thing for me which i got from finding about stephen robbins's articles on bergson. in them, he gave a reformulation of the hard problem of consciousness that made it centrally focused on formulating a coherent theory of perception. a key player for his thought was ecological psychology. it talked about perception involving the extraction of optical flow out of the environment, and skillful actions resting on the implementation of the right control laws. a key point in all of this is perception being intimately related to the action potentials of the body. hence the form of the body is the transcendental condition for human experience. so a lot more is at stake in biokinesis that just looking pretty. resonant to ecological psychology are ideas such as embodied psychology, conceptual metaphor and the 4e thesis of cognition. all of these ideas add more and more credit to the thought that our bodies actually play a far more integral role than we give it credit. it becomes more and more plausible that the body itself is capable of some sort of cognition on its own. these were thoughts i was starting to unironically have before i had ever even heard of michael levin. when that guy came along, it was like my unhinged thought process was being vindicated before my very eyes, but this means so was the apocalyptic possibility that sarkicism is actually real
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:17:21 No.39675317
>>39675308
expanding more on the point on consciousness having a crucial temporal component, the idea was that by seeing time as indivisible, we have a better framework for thinking about optical flow (something which btw is incomputable and hence roboticists need to develop all sorts of approximations in order to implement). the indivisibility of time for bergson really stems from the constant impression of the past on the present. in other words memory is something that is stored in the universal field which permeates everywhere rather than in any reified hardware like brain. i believe this idea has physical evidence in the form of the uncertainty, and biological evidence in the form of lesion experiments. a corollary is that the body could tap into this field of memory. we return once again to michael levin's own experiments on animals such as the planarian flatworms which retain memories of things they have learned even after decapitated
there also seems to be what is almost a platonism which is arising in all of this. if mind and body are not so separate after all (and in a way far more profound than a facile monistic vision), older ideas like transcendental morphology seem more credible. the idea of there being ur-forms which animals organize themselves according to, perhaps owing to memory. moreover bergson's view of time is in some way "neoplatonic". but it is not a dogmatic vision. rather, time ends up having the same structure as the nous, for each moment interpenetrates with all of the rest. time itself has a holographic nature to it.
there is also morphic resonance which isn't really too platonic but definitely resonates with everything going on here, but perhaps at a lower resolution as it just deals with a simple repetition of the same, and less with the genesis of new forms
expanding more on the point on consciousness having a crucial temporal component, the idea was that by seeing time as indivisible, we have a better framework for thinking about optical flow (something which btw is incomputable and hence roboticists need to develop all sorts of approximations in order to implement). the indivisibility of time for bergson really stems from the constant impression of the past on the present. in other words memory is something that is stored in the universal field which permeates everywhere rather than in any reified hardware like brain. i believe this idea has physical evidence in the form of the uncertainty, and biological evidence in the form of lesion experiments. a corollary is that the body could tap into this field of memory. we return once again to michael levin's own experiments on animals such as the planarian flatworms which retain memories of things they have learned even after decapitated
there also seems to be what is almost a platonism which is arising in all of this. if mind and body are not so separate after all (and in a way far more profound than a facile monistic vision), older ideas like transcendental morphology seem more credible. the idea of there being ur-forms which animals organize themselves according to, perhaps owing to memory. moreover bergson's view of time is in some way "neoplatonic". but it is not a dogmatic vision. rather, time ends up having the same structure as the nous, for each moment interpenetrates with all of the rest. time itself has a holographic nature to it.
there is also morphic resonance which isn't really too platonic but definitely resonates with everything going on here, but perhaps at a lower resolution as it just deals with a simple repetition of the same, and less with the genesis of new forms
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:18:50 No.39675320
>>39675317
(aaa that is another tangent that i am not going to go down but check out what bergsonians have to say about evolution and how these may address issues of complexity in the classical mendelian model of evolution)
from all of this we are already starting to get at the idea of the body being able to remember things and being able to think, and levin's further work took all of this that was already floating around in my head and gave more substantial evidence idea that the body really does "think"... the question from there is how exactly does one take advantage of this fact?
one thing to first note is that even from a materialism that is far more conservative than my own, we see that the body is and organic entity with a deep continuity amongst all of its parts. actually a lot of the physiological research that levin does takes a deep inspiration from the research that has already done on the physiology of the brain. just as the brain has ion channels for thinking, so does the body
(aaa that is another tangent that i am not going to go down but check out what bergsonians have to say about evolution and how these may address issues of complexity in the classical mendelian model of evolution)
from all of this we are already starting to get at the idea of the body being able to remember things and being able to think, and levin's further work took all of this that was already floating around in my head and gave more substantial evidence idea that the body really does "think"... the question from there is how exactly does one take advantage of this fact?
one thing to first note is that even from a materialism that is far more conservative than my own, we see that the body is and organic entity with a deep continuity amongst all of its parts. actually a lot of the physiological research that levin does takes a deep inspiration from the research that has already done on the physiology of the brain. just as the brain has ion channels for thinking, so does the body
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:20:27 No.39675322
>>39675320
... we actually can observe the autonomic nervous system's signalling does indeed have an effect on morphogenetic processes (e.g. bone remodelling). this is a first place to look. perhaps nootropics may help in accelerating biokinesis
another thing to note is that these points on embodied psychology actually have deep physiological ramifications. there actually is evidence that the brain does actually project information into the body. here are some examples:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34446772/
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3425/12/12/1737
one has to wonder then just how far can this communication between the mind and body really go? the evidence of hypnosis leading to read bodily changes then starts to show that this idea is not so theoretical
it is this focus on communication that makes me interested in interoception and the cultivation of bodily awareness. that is why ive mentioned energy practices throughout this thread as they are very important. actually my understanding of qi relates to everything ive written so far. to me a key aspect of internal alchemy is the cultivation of interoceptive ability. if this can be taken to subtler and subtler extremes who knows what could happen? the theory of qi also relates to ecological psychology. virtual action and affordances pertain to the potentials of the body in the abstract, while qi pertains to the potency of a body that is actually about to or in the process of real movement
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00556/full
other than the development of interoception i think the general ability to be able to modify, control, and track one's cognition so meditation is another crucial skill. as i mentioned earlier interoception can lead to neuroticism, so it is important to be able to actually handle these signals that you begin to tune into lest you go insane
... we actually can observe the autonomic nervous system's signalling does indeed have an effect on morphogenetic processes (e.g. bone remodelling). this is a first place to look. perhaps nootropics may help in accelerating biokinesis
another thing to note is that these points on embodied psychology actually have deep physiological ramifications. there actually is evidence that the brain does actually project information into the body. here are some examples:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/344
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3425/12/1
one has to wonder then just how far can this communication between the mind and body really go? the evidence of hypnosis leading to read bodily changes then starts to show that this idea is not so theoretical
it is this focus on communication that makes me interested in interoception and the cultivation of bodily awareness. that is why ive mentioned energy practices throughout this thread as they are very important. actually my understanding of qi relates to everything ive written so far. to me a key aspect of internal alchemy is the cultivation of interoceptive ability. if this can be taken to subtler and subtler extremes who knows what could happen? the theory of qi also relates to ecological psychology. virtual action and affordances pertain to the potentials of the body in the abstract, while qi pertains to the potency of a body that is actually about to or in the process of real movement
https://www.frontiersin.org/journal
other than the development of interoception i think the general ability to be able to modify, control, and track one's cognition so meditation is another crucial skill. as i mentioned earlier interoception can lead to neuroticism, so it is important to be able to actually handle these signals that you begin to tune into lest you go insane
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:21:40 No.39675324
>>39675322
(it should also be noted that this focus on communication was why i was attracted to what garrote was doing. his whole methodology revolves around this https://arquismo.neocities.org/biokinesis/thebiokinesisprocess.txt)
to expand a bit more on everything, this idea of projection of important of information is actually generally important for my understanding of magickal practice and the troubles thereof. this might be a crazy lateral association, but in my mind there is a strong resonance between genuine psychic ability and implicit learning. like implicit learning, there is a bunch of evidence that the possession of rational faculties often hampers ones psychic ability. this is something ive already touched on in this thread such as here >>39600726. it is notable that when german philosophers discussed animal magnetism and psi they also noted that it was always the least educated people that had the most ability. i do not think this is a coincidence. it is something that shapes a lot of magickal practice, for instance in chaos magick the obsession with gnosis and the forgetting of one's intention after the magical ritual. it is all ultimately in order to resolve that conflict between the explicit and the explicit... gnosis if truly distilled might just be the pure intuition of intention rather than anything to do with trance. smanon seem to have reached some similar conclusions. there is also this reddit post i found recently which might prove illuminating for some:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chaosmagick/comments/1e8c3c2/figured_out_gnosis/
(it should also be noted that this focus on communication was why i was attracted to what garrote was doing. his whole methodology revolves around this https://arquismo.neocities.org/biok
to expand a bit more on everything, this idea of projection of important of information is actually generally important for my understanding of magickal practice and the troubles thereof. this might be a crazy lateral association, but in my mind there is a strong resonance between genuine psychic ability and implicit learning. like implicit learning, there is a bunch of evidence that the possession of rational faculties often hampers ones psychic ability. this is something ive already touched on in this thread such as here >>39600726. it is notable that when german philosophers discussed animal magnetism and psi they also noted that it was always the least educated people that had the most ability. i do not think this is a coincidence. it is something that shapes a lot of magickal practice, for instance in chaos magick the obsession with gnosis and the forgetting of one's intention after the magical ritual. it is all ultimately in order to resolve that conflict between the explicit and the explicit... gnosis if truly distilled might just be the pure intuition of intention rather than anything to do with trance. smanon seem to have reached some similar conclusions. there is also this reddit post i found recently which might prove illuminating for some:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chaosmagic
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)05:24:27 No.39675329
>>39675324
i believe it is possible to be able to resolve this contradiction by fundamentally rewiring how your mind processes language. if you instead were to delateralize your linguistic processing and decompose linguistic information into egocentric and motor information in order to minimize this conflict. i think thinking more dialectically and getting more familiar with bergsonian intuition may help as well. the end goal of all of this would be the ability to perform magickal feats while still being able to think rationally (albeit your way of thinking would be completely alien to the average persons). this ofc is a colossal undertaking, and my current plan is to carefully read a lot of evocative texts while intentionally trying to monitor how i process them so that i feel every word
i think there is more but i will stop there for now...
>>39646855
i believe it is possible to be able to resolve this contradiction by fundamentally rewiring how your mind processes language. if you instead were to delateralize your linguistic processing and decompose linguistic information into egocentric and motor information in order to minimize this conflict. i think thinking more dialectically and getting more familiar with bergsonian intuition may help as well. the end goal of all of this would be the ability to perform magickal feats while still being able to think rationally (albeit your way of thinking would be completely alien to the average persons). this ofc is a colossal undertaking, and my current plan is to carefully read a lot of evocative texts while intentionally trying to monitor how i process them so that i feel every word
i think there is more but i will stop there for now...
>>39646855
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)06:04:14 No.39675417
>>39585262
bump
bump
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)06:22:29 No.39675473
>>39599393
They unironically did, in some parts of the world including America. Once again the "elites" are fronts and puppets, worse than slaves really
They unironically did, in some parts of the world including America. Once again the "elites" are fronts and puppets, worse than slaves really
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)08:45:04 No.39675939
>>39675324
*and the implicit(?)
*and the implicit(?)
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)11:28:00 No.39676668
>>39675939
mhm, thanks anon
mhm, thanks anon
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)11:30:00 No.39676673
>>39585262
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WISH FOR A PUSSY YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ONE YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN AXE WOUND YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN ASS AND YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE A FUCKING WOMAN AND SAME GOES THE OTHER WAY AROUND WHAT IN THE MOTHERFUCKING HELL OF A SHIT IS A BOYCLIT?!
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WISH FOR A PUSSY YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ONE YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN AXE WOUND YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN ASS AND YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE A FUCKING WOMAN AND SAME GOES THE OTHER WAY AROUND WHAT IN THE MOTHERFUCKING HELL OF A SHIT IS A BOYCLIT?!
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:56:08 No.39679066
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:52:52 No.39679404
>>39675225
The videos arent long but basically eat healthily and eat the food reccd in the video. Do excercises to cause microfractures (just jump up and down but in the vid he recommends a stationary bike that is slightly too tall and then going to sleep right after with you legs hanging from the bed)
Spiking you insulin will cause HGH to be made by the brain so eat some corn on a cob (grow it yourself)
If you can access raw milk or meat from cows with BST (which fuck the US govt for banning it-- I LIKED when girls had those big tits from the BST in milk and it made it so southerners will disproportionately taller, bigger dicks, and stronger for sports because it was legal there longer)
If you believe in timeline resets, its good knowledge to set in the bytes of data you can retain. Give yourself a powerful fighting body. Teach others to grow larger. Teach them the occult and how to strengthen their vril.
>we shall overcome
The videos arent long but basically eat healthily and eat the food reccd in the video. Do excercises to cause microfractures (just jump up and down but in the vid he recommends a stationary bike that is slightly too tall and then going to sleep right after with you legs hanging from the bed)
Spiking you insulin will cause HGH to be made by the brain so eat some corn on a cob (grow it yourself)
If you can access raw milk or meat from cows with BST (which fuck the US govt for banning it-- I LIKED when girls had those big tits from the BST in milk and it made it so southerners will disproportionately taller, bigger dicks, and stronger for sports because it was legal there longer)
If you believe in timeline resets, its good knowledge to set in the bytes of data you can retain. Give yourself a powerful fighting body. Teach others to grow larger. Teach them the occult and how to strengthen their vril.
>we shall overcome
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:55:21 No.39679426
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)18:56:22 No.39679434
I don't care about changing me.
Can I make my GF tits grow bigger with my mind? I can get her bolt-ons, but that's a lot of money and convincing.
Can I make my GF tits grow bigger with my mind? I can get her bolt-ons, but that's a lot of money and convincing.
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/20/25(Mon)20:53:08 No.39679945
>>39679426
i think it is more likely possible than some of the other possibilities for biokinesis seeing as the pituitary gland which drives puberty is even located in the brain. im not sure what sort of techniques to use for more subtle things like this. it isn't really something you can really imagine. searching around i did find this article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4034508/ though they weren't intentionally trying to kickstart another puberty cycle or anything like that. taking supplements can probably help as well
>>39679434
is she ok with getting larger boobs? if so there are already studies on this. the methodology for this iirc (see here for more details >>39600421) would be to hypnotize her or tell her to hypnotize herself and make her remember the sensation of her boobs growing as they did in puberty. basically she should imagine that sensation in a trance state. ofc hypnosis only really works if the participant is like willing irl most of the time lol... if she isn't then well... that is another discussion... i haven't looked too much into doing the possibility of doing biokinesis on other people though id imagine it could be possible insofar as the human biofield extends past the body... i should stop now. hope you have her consent ok
i think it is more likely possible than some of the other possibilities for biokinesis seeing as the pituitary gland which drives puberty is even located in the brain. im not sure what sort of techniques to use for more subtle things like this. it isn't really something you can really imagine. searching around i did find this article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl
>>39679434
is she ok with getting larger boobs? if so there are already studies on this. the methodology for this iirc (see here for more details >>39600421) would be to hypnotize her or tell her to hypnotize herself and make her remember the sensation of her boobs growing as they did in puberty. basically she should imagine that sensation in a trance state. ofc hypnosis only really works if the participant is like willing irl most of the time lol... if she isn't then well... that is another discussion... i haven't looked too much into doing the possibility of doing biokinesis on other people though id imagine it could be possible insofar as the human biofield extends past the body... i should stop now. hope you have her consent ok
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)21:48:55 No.39680208
Can anybody summarize what the info on this thread, because holy fuck I've lost track of all of this.
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/21/25(Tue)01:55:07 No.39681521
>>39680208
>can you summarize carnal enlightenment
glad you asked
1) there is already evidence that hypnosis + suggestions such as imagining the sensation of your body changing in certain ways can indeed lead to changes in the shape of your body
2) imo they key mechanism here is that the brain feeds Ideas into the rest of the body and the body itself forms itself based upon Ideas
3) based on (2) i think developing general bodily awareness and ability to communicate with your body is important (garrote subscribes to a familiar philosophy)
4) there is another school of thought that suggests using lucid dreams to trigger changes in the body. like giving your dream self a certain body
5) big chunk of the thread we started talking about making an egregore and stuff to help everyone with biokinesis
6) this technique got a lot of attention as well >>39589067
7) theres was also some chaos magic floating around too
there were other misc biokinesis technique suggestions like wolf's law, indian recipes on increasing dick size, blood sacrifices (?)
anyways i hope that helps
>can you summarize carnal enlightenment
glad you asked
1) there is already evidence that hypnosis + suggestions such as imagining the sensation of your body changing in certain ways can indeed lead to changes in the shape of your body
2) imo they key mechanism here is that the brain feeds Ideas into the rest of the body and the body itself forms itself based upon Ideas
3) based on (2) i think developing general bodily awareness and ability to communicate with your body is important (garrote subscribes to a familiar philosophy)
4) there is another school of thought that suggests using lucid dreams to trigger changes in the body. like giving your dream self a certain body
5) big chunk of the thread we started talking about making an egregore and stuff to help everyone with biokinesis
6) this technique got a lot of attention as well >>39589067
7) theres was also some chaos magic floating around too
there were other misc biokinesis technique suggestions like wolf's law, indian recipes on increasing dick size, blood sacrifices (?)
anyways i hope that helps
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)03:28:19 No.39681776
>>39681521
I'm more or less lost on all the egregore part. I thought they were making a new scp entry out of this
I'm more or less lost on all the egregore part. I thought they were making a new scp entry out of this
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/21/25(Tue)03:53:36 No.39681817
>>39681776
ooh. we were developing a collective thoughtform to basically aid us in biokinesis. to give it more power we developed some rituals and stuff to do. there are rituals that are meant to give the egregore emotional energy and there are rituals to basically try and leverage morphic resonance to make the entity even more effective (the idea with morphic resonance here is to entrain reality with habitual associations between biokinetic practices and the thoughtforms symbology).
a lot of the discussion was about the design and also what kind of entity this thoughtform should be. whether she is satanic or not and what should her symbolic and esoteric associations should be...
this >>39652025 is the final design so far. there is a womb tattoo to symbolize change, the overcharge of energy, and constructive polarity. there is another symbol on her chest which is a triangle symbol on top of an inverted pentagram. basically these are two symbols for change stacked on top of one another. her name was developed from the key gods to take influence from as well. al the other things about her design is meant to bring in different symbols that seem meaningful to what the entity should be about (see here >>39613083)
oh yeah some interesting synchronicities happened and people had strange dreams too so that was cool
part of the reason it might have seemed like we were making an scp entry is because of the development of stories and myths which i think is pretty important both for giving the egregore power but also giving a clearer picture of the entity and letting people become more immersed and intimate. for instance diligent christians read the bible often not just for the wisdom but because it is the word of god and as such provides an avenue of communion with god
ooh. we were developing a collective thoughtform to basically aid us in biokinesis. to give it more power we developed some rituals and stuff to do. there are rituals that are meant to give the egregore emotional energy and there are rituals to basically try and leverage morphic resonance to make the entity even more effective (the idea with morphic resonance here is to entrain reality with habitual associations between biokinetic practices and the thoughtforms symbology).
a lot of the discussion was about the design and also what kind of entity this thoughtform should be. whether she is satanic or not and what should her symbolic and esoteric associations should be...
this >>39652025 is the final design so far. there is a womb tattoo to symbolize change, the overcharge of energy, and constructive polarity. there is another symbol on her chest which is a triangle symbol on top of an inverted pentagram. basically these are two symbols for change stacked on top of one another. her name was developed from the key gods to take influence from as well. al the other things about her design is meant to bring in different symbols that seem meaningful to what the entity should be about (see here >>39613083)
oh yeah some interesting synchronicities happened and people had strange dreams too so that was cool
part of the reason it might have seemed like we were making an scp entry is because of the development of stories and myths which i think is pretty important both for giving the egregore power but also giving a clearer picture of the entity and letting people become more immersed and intimate. for instance diligent christians read the bible often not just for the wisdom but because it is the word of god and as such provides an avenue of communion with god
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/21/25(Tue)12:50:45 No.39684037
bump
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)12:56:59 No.39684069
>>39680208
you can make your penis bigger and grow taller
you can change the color of you hair by changing you diet and meditating (even just lightening your hair with the sun is a form of alchemy)
by meditating and fasting you can make your body stronger
semen retention to raise test will make you mole muscular
you can make your penis bigger and grow taller
you can change the color of you hair by changing you diet and meditating (even just lightening your hair with the sun is a form of alchemy)
by meditating and fasting you can make your body stronger
semen retention to raise test will make you mole muscular
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)16:45:32 No.39685571
>look into this general
>no way to become a cute girl
>just some general gym tips everyone knows
Tragic
>no way to become a cute girl
>just some general gym tips everyone knows
Tragic
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/21/25(Tue)23:56:15 No.39687951
>>39685571
the techniques for becoming a handsome man also work for becoming a cute girl if thats what you want anon. the more general techniques can be extrapolated to what you want to do with things
see:
>>39679945
>>39681521
>>39600870
the techniques for becoming a handsome man also work for becoming a cute girl if thats what you want anon. the more general techniques can be extrapolated to what you want to do with things
see:
>>39679945
>>39681521
>>39600870
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)01:46:15 No.39688551
>>39585262
we should have a telekinesis thread instead, you will never be a woman or whatever it is you want lmao
we should have a telekinesis thread instead, you will never be a woman or whatever it is you want lmao
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:01:04 No.39688861
>>39585262
I know a powerful form of magick for transforming your body - its rituals are arduous and painful, and can take long periods of time to work, but results are guaranteed for all courageous seekers who persevere in their workings.
1. Cleanse yourself by restricting your diet to avoid eating revolting goyslop. You must forgo door dash and frozen pizza rolls.
2. You must invoke and manifest the change through sacred movement. Put down the Cheeto encrusted gaming controller and start by going for a long walk every day. 10,000 steps. Every day. Build up to more from there. It's just like grinding XP in a video game but it's real and will make you less of a fatass.
3. Perform the Holy Ritual of the Suffering Under Iron. Get thee to the temple of gym. Pick up heavy thing and put down. Repeat. Get under heavy thing and stand up. Repeat.
Soon you will feel the arcane power building within you. Your very physical form will begin to change markedly. You will become harder and stronger. You can do it, anon. I believe in you. Focus your Vril and become the very embodiment of strength and power!
I know a powerful form of magick for transforming your body - its rituals are arduous and painful, and can take long periods of time to work, but results are guaranteed for all courageous seekers who persevere in their workings.
1. Cleanse yourself by restricting your diet to avoid eating revolting goyslop. You must forgo door dash and frozen pizza rolls.
2. You must invoke and manifest the change through sacred movement. Put down the Cheeto encrusted gaming controller and start by going for a long walk every day. 10,000 steps. Every day. Build up to more from there. It's just like grinding XP in a video game but it's real and will make you less of a fatass.
3. Perform the Holy Ritual of the Suffering Under Iron. Get thee to the temple of gym. Pick up heavy thing and put down. Repeat. Get under heavy thing and stand up. Repeat.
Soon you will feel the arcane power building within you. Your very physical form will begin to change markedly. You will become harder and stronger. You can do it, anon. I believe in you. Focus your Vril and become the very embodiment of strength and power!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:23:48 No.39689148
>>39600421
Can somebody get me past that paywall on those breast hypnosis research. Me and my gf are working on trying to utilize hypnosis and magic for exactly that and it's relevant to our experiments
Can somebody get me past that paywall on those breast hypnosis research. Me and my gf are working on trying to utilize hypnosis and magic for exactly that and it's relevant to our experiments
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/22/25(Wed)04:28:59 No.39689166
>>39689148
scihub has them. tell us your results
scihub has them. tell us your results
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:33:38 No.39689179
>>39689166
Will do. Screencap for future. We're doing a venus talisman with hypnotic suggestion if it works I'll make a thread
Will do. Screencap for future. We're doing a venus talisman with hypnotic suggestion if it works I'll make a thread
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:06:04 No.39690968
OP Here, i have gotten some evidence but i will collect more in a few months so that i may give whomever wants what i want some hope.
It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize and the next step is lucid dreaming.
But i have never seen someone else become a genuine mogger by mind and body alone. I will try to get an x ray of before and after to show the evidence. Next thread, if someone else could make it that would be really helpful. I only have so much time right now and would appreciate if we could accentuate the general sentiment of our egregore until lightning strikes to truly animate it.
If i am the first person to do this, may you all have hope to conquer the body into becoming great. I have yet to see anybody truly overcome/edit their genes in the manner i plan for.
It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize and the next step is lucid dreaming.
But i have never seen someone else become a genuine mogger by mind and body alone. I will try to get an x ray of before and after to show the evidence. Next thread, if someone else could make it that would be really helpful. I only have so much time right now and would appreciate if we could accentuate the general sentiment of our egregore until lightning strikes to truly animate it.
If i am the first person to do this, may you all have hope to conquer the body into becoming great. I have yet to see anybody truly overcome/edit their genes in the manner i plan for.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:10:42 No.39690994
>>39585262
you'd be surprised at what a proper 100 days will do
chi springs forth from the jing
when the jing is restored, the chi can flourish
you'd be surprised at what a proper 100 days will do
chi springs forth from the jing
when the jing is restored, the chi can flourish
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:11:56 No.39691003
>>39594047
blood is not a physical currency, it is a spiritual one
blood is not a physical currency, it is a spiritual one
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:13:40 No.39691012
>>39690968
>It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize
this is because visualization is a low tier method
the proper way is to cultivate energy potentials and work with them directly
visualizing is daydreaming and wishcasting, it is practically useless
>It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize
this is because visualization is a low tier method
the proper way is to cultivate energy potentials and work with them directly
visualizing is daydreaming and wishcasting, it is practically useless
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:15:53 No.39691022
>>39690968
>I only have so much time right now and would appreciate if we could accentuate the general sentiment of our egregore until lightning strikes to truly animate it.
you'd need a shit ton of energetic potential gathered to create something that could do anything at all
unless you're doing shady things and obtaining that power elsewhere, your egregore will be pretty much 100% useless
obtaining it elsewhere comes at a cost that is unseen to you and will likely be more than you want to pay, unless you have no morals at all, in which case you'll have karmic problems resultant from it
>I only have so much time right now and would appreciate if we could accentuate the general sentiment of our egregore until lightning strikes to truly animate it.
you'd need a shit ton of energetic potential gathered to create something that could do anything at all
unless you're doing shady things and obtaining that power elsewhere, your egregore will be pretty much 100% useless
obtaining it elsewhere comes at a cost that is unseen to you and will likely be more than you want to pay, unless you have no morals at all, in which case you'll have karmic problems resultant from it
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:33:04 No.39691112
Biokinesis for only getting 1 inch in height, different eye color, and something pathethic like this is a joke
Unless you can't get a lifechanging result, like a new body of drastically improved in some area (like going from bald to full head of thick hair or skinny fat body to being very muscular) it's not worth discussing.
Dont be a fucking joke and spend your life chasing these pipsqeuak goals
Unless you can't get a lifechanging result, like a new body of drastically improved in some area (like going from bald to full head of thick hair or skinny fat body to being very muscular) it's not worth discussing.
Dont be a fucking joke and spend your life chasing these pipsqeuak goals
ala !iO03idAm7g 01/22/25(Wed)14:16:05 No.39692107
>>39690968
>It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize and the next step is lucid dreaming.
lucid dreaming is good to try as well but i will underline one thing. you do not need to visualize through your minds eye. for instance if you were to imagine or even hear about about the act of slam dunking a baby, it can evoke a very visceral bodily sensation of doing the action. i find it much easier to invoke the feeling of what i want rather than the image, and honestly it makes sense because feeling is closer to the body. a lot of modern magickal practice is based on being able to visualize an external image which i guess is an artefact of the fact that humans rely on vision way more than other senses. nevertheless it is unnecessary and in some ways obfuscates. if you look at a lot of authentic energy practices, they even advise not to visualize at all. check this out too... it might be helpful:
https://neuromagick.com/basic-energy-work/
>if someone else could make it that would be really helpful
sure i can make it if i find the thread gone
good luck anon!
>>39691012
>>39691022
yeah the other methods are all more indirect, though the egregore is not just magickal but morphic. the idea is to use morphic resonance around a symbol to give better control with intervening on the body's formative processes. also see >>39620752 >>39623576
>It seems i have run into a wall with myself and the extent of my ability to visualize and the next step is lucid dreaming.
lucid dreaming is good to try as well but i will underline one thing. you do not need to visualize through your minds eye. for instance if you were to imagine or even hear about about the act of slam dunking a baby, it can evoke a very visceral bodily sensation of doing the action. i find it much easier to invoke the feeling of what i want rather than the image, and honestly it makes sense because feeling is closer to the body. a lot of modern magickal practice is based on being able to visualize an external image which i guess is an artefact of the fact that humans rely on vision way more than other senses. nevertheless it is unnecessary and in some ways obfuscates. if you look at a lot of authentic energy practices, they even advise not to visualize at all. check this out too... it might be helpful:
https://neuromagick.com/basic-energ
>if someone else could make it that would be really helpful
sure i can make it if i find the thread gone
good luck anon!
>>39691012
>>39691022
yeah the other methods are all more indirect, though the egregore is not just magickal but morphic. the idea is to use morphic resonance around a symbol to give better control with intervening on the body's formative processes. also see >>39620752 >>39623576
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:01:28 No.39692391
>>39691022
I see. See, that's good. It means i only need to grow in my ability. To catch and release energy, attention, more quickly, more efficiently, and have more of it. Which aligns perfectly with my goals anyway. In a way, it is a perfect challenge for me. In that, if i can get enough support for this i can change not only myself but give hope to others.
>>39691112
>going to bald to full head of hair
We are going further.
>>39691012
May you give me some good ol' directions to your better methods?
I see. See, that's good. It means i only need to grow in my ability. To catch and release energy, attention, more quickly, more efficiently, and have more of it. Which aligns perfectly with my goals anyway. In a way, it is a perfect challenge for me. In that, if i can get enough support for this i can change not only myself but give hope to others.
>>39691112
>going to bald to full head of hair
We are going further.
>>39691012
May you give me some good ol' directions to your better methods?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:12:34 No.39692463
>>39679945
I heard Boba Tea makes girls boobs bigger because its sugar+fat and its really easy to convince girls to drink booba tea
I heard Boba Tea makes girls boobs bigger because its sugar+fat and its really easy to convince girls to drink booba tea
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:11:56 No.39694099
>>39688861
Reads like gpt garbage. Where do i get impossibly large?
Reads like gpt garbage. Where do i get impossibly large?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:17:09 No.39694142
>>39691022
Also, is karma real at any differentiative inherent level? I can get behind morality being objective and inherent, but karma may just be another observer based psychic phenomena like the christian heaven.
Also, is karma real at any differentiative inherent level? I can get behind morality being objective and inherent, but karma may just be another observer based psychic phenomena like the christian heaven.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:20:10 No.39694158
>>39681817
ala, by the way, a day before the fires started in california the only thing i was thinking was "burn it all down" so thats pretty cool. Also the area im located in has had stronger winds because of me and i cant really turn them off.
We might be onto something way bigger than originally thought. The synchronicities call for discipline and utter dilligence.
ala, by the way, a day before the fires started in california the only thing i was thinking was "burn it all down" so thats pretty cool. Also the area im located in has had stronger winds because of me and i cant really turn them off.
We might be onto something way bigger than originally thought. The synchronicities call for discipline and utter dilligence.