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should fromsoft expand on the magic system or the sekiro combat system?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:24:31 No.701001394
>>701001345
They should make more Armored Core
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:25:37 No.701001443
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:26:16 No.701001474
>>701001345
souls slop has awful combat
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:26:45 No.701001498
>>701001474
said no one ever
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:28:18 No.701001571
>>701001474
Preach bro. Souls niggers love being the slow retard cuck while bosses go full anime shit on them.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:28:25 No.701001573
>>701001345
>>701001345
prosthetics were great, they just needed better balance. they sucked early game, the game was bad at encouraging their generalist use even if they were super great for expanding your moveset, and emblems not always going back to full when you rest at an idol was plainly retarded
miyazaki said they want to do more with sekiro, and if so

>making deflects less one dimensional, or balancing them with hitbox dodges and vitality damage
>more than one combat art, more encouragement and better balance of prosthetics
is a complete recipe for success
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:28:34 No.701001584
>>701001345
They should expand on having an actual plot and story in their games instead of the shallow fanwank stuff.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:29:04 No.701001606
>expand on the magic system
they backtracked on chain casting after bad players complained
RIP theodorix's magma startup cancel
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:29:06 No.701001609
>>701001345
Magic, I don't like Sekiro relying on the tokens you need to hoard for all your high end skills/special abillity. I do like the special input skills in Sekiro though.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:29:22 No.701001620
>>701001584
They were able to do that with Armored Core and Sekiro. The problem is just people wanting more Zanzibart shit
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:31:52 No.701001735
>>701001345
Fromsoft should expand on the making actual good games system
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:32:17 No.701001760
>>701001345
They should "expand" on the Sekiro style storytelling where they actually tell the story via characters that talk to each other like normal people, instead of leaving it up to sentence fragments inexplicably tattooed onto the side of items and YouTube fanfiction vids
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:32:22 No.701001768
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:32:26 No.701001774
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>>701001345
They're doing the latter next, but I fucking hope Miyazaki wasn't actually referring to Nightreign
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:33:48 No.701001836
>>701001620
Armored Core 6 wasn't directed or written by Miyazaki is why
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:35:23 No.701001904
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>>701001571
>Souls niggers love being the slow retard cuck while bosses go full anime shit on them.
Not anymore after the DLC lel, it's reached the breaking point for most people
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:36:25 No.701001958
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>>701001571
>Boss neeeds to flail around like a retard to do anything
>I just need two-three well placed blows to make it kneel
Peak
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:38:18 No.701002029
white glint cosplay
>>701001836
Armored Core 4 and For Answer has a coherent story; it was also his directorial debut. But also to be fair, he might have been tardwrangled during it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)07:38:24 No.701002031
>>701001345
magic, because it's so easily fixed. It's only bad because the input to cast is so antiquated and needs an overhaul
say what you will after the lords of the fallen reboot, just holding RT then pressing a button to cast a mapped spell is infinitely superior to clunkily scrolling through a list of spells, even if it limits the selection to the amount of buttons on your input device
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:00:08 No.701003183
>>701001958
where's the joke
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:13:16 No.701003883
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:16:31 No.701004074
>>701001584
>plot and story
I'll watch a movie if I need that, games are good without
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:18:16 No.701004179
>>701001620
The two are not contradictory.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:24:34 No.701004546
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>>701001345
From already figured out the way to evolve the Souls combat formula with Bloodborne and Sekiro. Bloodborne rewards aggressiveness, Sekiro rewards patience. I will always appreciate ER for the sheer scale and variety of shit you can do, but no ER boss felt as fine tuned and rewarding as even some of the mid tier bosses from BB and Sekiro, let alone the actual highlights.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:28:48 No.701004790
>>701004546
Radagon is peak of the franchise, perfect back and forth that uses all abilities, feels like what they wanted Gwyn to be 10 years ago.

I would say the shardbearers are in general the most soulful group of main bosses in any of the games.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:30:31 No.701004895
>>701004790
Radagon felt more like the actual final fight compared to Elden Beast. Feels like they should've end it there and make Elden Beast an optional superboss
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:34:29 No.701005121
>>701004546
the stance mechanic in elden ring rewards aggresive play far more than any of the previous souls since you need to keep up the pressure to trigger a stagger and the huge damage opportunity that follows.

arguably, the only game that rewards aggression more is sekiro where instead of being patient you can be in a never-ending state of either attacking or deflecting until you get a posture break with the boss being at >80% health.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:36:00 No.701005207
>>701001345
I really think they need to work on their NPCs. Elden Ring NPCs are even more simplistic than 2009 DeS NPCs who at least walk around and kill enemies instead of *stand still and tap A to exhaust dialogue*
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:36:13 No.701005221
>>701004790
>boss with cutscene in the middle of combat
>peak
>second part involves waiting 10 minutes till it lands
no
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:36:19 No.701005229
>>701004895
Agreed, sort of like a Gerhman/Moon Presence setup where you only fight Elden Beast if you don't plan to supplant the current order (ie. all other endings than Age of Fracture).
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:36:31 No.701005246
>>701001345
Sekiro has the best combat system ever made.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:38:52 No.701005404
why people praise and say sekiro parry combat is peak action but when other game do it its called parryslop?
even mgrr has better parry combat
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:40:37 No.701005509
>>701001345
>fromsoft
>magic
From Software has some of the ugliest and most boring magic I've ever seen in videogames. 99% of them are just projectiles of different sizes.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:41:22 No.701005552
>>701005246
true if the only games you ever played are from fromsoft
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:42:45 No.701005648
>>701001345
they should rather focus on tight exploration
i go play nioh2 if i want combat
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:43:20 No.701005697
>>701005648
Rise of the Ronin improved on Nioh 2's combat. Why hasn't it been released on PC yet anyway?
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:45:55 No.701005851
>>701005697
because without it ps5 will have no games
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:47:46 No.701005974
>>701005851
It still has Demon's Souls Remake (which looks worse than the original) and Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:53:06 No.701006284
>>701001606
That was a bug that broke the game and pvp, of course they removed it.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:54:05 No.701006359
>>701006284
I will care about pvp when they add rollback, so never.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)08:59:52 No.701006739
>>701005509
Already proven wrong by Demon's Souls.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)09:07:41 No.701007243
>>701001345
I like finding tons of different weapons and spells in my Fromsoft games and applying them in different builds. Sekiro only has one weapon and every encounter is designed around deflecting so there's only really one way to play, it's is not a good fit for an ARPG.

They could add some hotkeys for spells instead of scrolling though them, like when you hold the light attack button on a catalyst you your face/dpad buttons get swapped to spell slots. They could even do the same thing with ashes of war.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)09:08:55 No.701007326
>>701001345
Sekiro
Because the game is puddle deep at the moment, but the combat system has potential and i am so sick of the Souls formula.
Anonymous 01/23/25(Thu)09:15:45 No.701007792
>>701007243
>like when you hold the light attack button on a catalyst you your face/dpad buttons get swapped to spell slots
They already have this implemented woth the quick items, it wouldn't even take long.