>>700966526
1.5 million is still amazing numbers

>>700966608
No it fucking isn't lmao. Not for a new entry of a popular franchise that's on consoles and PC

>>700966608
1.5 million is a mediocre number for a AAA sequel even for 2013 standards when budgets were 1/4 of what it is now.

Uh oh!

>>700966526
I really should add [sad news] etc to my filters. Shits fucking cringe and reeks of reddit

>>700967054
Reddit would ban [Sad News] threads for being racist and bigoted

>>700966608
"players" lmao, this includes a lot of shit like free giveaway with bundles, the free trial, ea pass, etc, shit probably didn't even sell half a mill, with a budget of 250 million, and the game was already on a 35% sale too

>>700966526
1.5M seems pretty good to me, all things considered

>>700967054
It's from 2ch. Not everything is reddit. Maybe you should touch some grass?

>>700967529
Maybe for an indie game with a small budget that didn't take nearly a decade to make and didn't get completely scrapped twice and wasn't up on subscription services.

Oh no no no...

>>700967617
No, it's from matome leech sites that don't have any content other than copypasting posts from 2ch as articles.

>>700967617
Then it should stay on 2chan, along with (you)

>>700966608
>1.5 million is still amazing numbers
Not purely copies sold. They count any engagement with the game, including people playing the game from subscription services or copies received from promotions (nvidia gave the game away with gpus)

>more crap greenlit in 2020 crashed and burned
what a shock

>>700966608
Amazing compared to what it deserved, which is nothing.

lol even Dragons Dogma 2 sold more

>>700966526
When a game is delayed by 10 fucking years it needs to become a cultural icon in order to make profit

>>700966526
finally it's a CONFIRMED FLOP.Cherry on top is this is being reported by Jason Schreier, the guy who previously gloated that Veilguard was selling well.

>>700966982
It's crazy how removed people are on both sides. All they care about is politics and optics, these nutjobs couldn't think of a single point of objective criticism/praise about the game

>>700966608
>>700967529
It doesn't say 1.5 million played, it says it "reached" them which could mean anything. If they're using ambiguous language it's because they're hiding something.

>>700966526
>"reached 1.5 million players"
KEK, so it probably sold less than 1 million copies considering EA Play is a thing.
>and still gcj trannies will brigade /v/ to sardonically deride "go woke go broke" even though it's accurate enough of the time to be an obvious pattern

>>700967719
>fans want veilguard some dlc
The AI GPT needs a bit of fixing.

>>700966608
have you been in a coma for 15 years

>>700968106
Could be AI, but journos are that stupid.

Troon status?

>>700966526
oh no no no

>>700966608
I expect the US to reach that number by September.

Only way to revive this franchise is to remaster the first 3 games like mass effect legendary edition. However give it its own ending. Completely write off veilguard from the storyline. It was generic enough to not even matter.

>>700966608
these are amazing numbers for a budget AA japanese game; not a 200 million AAA western game from a renowned franchise with tens of millions spent on marketing alone

>>700969061
i assume his bloomberg article admitting failure doesn't allow comments and he's made his twitter friends only/protected

>>700966608
Not when this garbage took fucking 10 years to come out of the oven.

The know what the best part of this is? The same guy who had insiders yell him about the 1.5m players and the director leaving also said Bioware Edmonton is shutting down in February

>>700966526
FUCKING BATTLEZONE BUCKBROKE DRAGON AGE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRlpTY4gnw

[sad news] OP is a faggot

LOL

>>700969167
remaster Origins, and then make a completely new DA2 and so on, they've been doing it for movies, they can do it for videogames.

>>700969310
>Bluesky
Kek

>>700969308
Oh man I love battlezone. Popping the earthquake wave to shoot airborne stuff is always fun.

>>700966608
Not for EA

>>700969487
everything visual about this game is troon-coded. the colours, the lighting, shading, character designs, even the UI design is troon-coded
total bioware death

>>700969479
It's pre mollusk twitter, only with extra kid touchers

>>700966526
It's almost like no wants to play in some trannies fantasy land

>>700969614
>3,565
-d

>>700969487
I can just feel the woke energy from only this pic alone

>>700966608
No, it's not... the first game has almost legendary status in the RPG genre community, it's an established IP. BG3 just came out of nowhere with a combat system that turns away a TON of people, and still sold probably around 20 million copies at this point. If VG was good it would sell 10-20+ million copies, not 1.5.

>>700969479
it's identical aside from the monetarily incentivized bad takes/indian bots at the old place

>>700969614
>60k ATP
Grim

>>700966608
Yeah for an indie game made by 1 guy and with an advertising budget consisting solely of word of mouth.

LOL

>>700969639
rightoids will look you in the eye and tell you that four THOUSAND active players is a dead game

>>700968989
I have doubts on if a remaster of Origins would really attract that many new players. It's got way too much jank for most casual players (people get filtered by the Gauntlet of Shar in BG3 how do you think they'd fair in the Fade portion of the tower?) and there's far more sophisticated CRPGs with a lot more options for class, race, and narrative decisions for people that love the genre. It'd be nice to show the fans part of they care but that's about it.

>>700969706
true, it's far greater than concord's already respectable peak of 700

>Several veteran Dragon Age staff, including Laidlaw, left the company in response to Joplin's cancellation in 2017.
>After the 2018 restart, Mark Darrah remained as an executive producer, while Matthew Goldman took over the position of creative director for the project from 2017 to 2021. By December 3, 2020, Darrah had resigned from BioWare, replaced by BioWare Austin studio head Christian Dailey. Goldman left BioWare by November 2021, and was replaced as Creative Director by John Epler. Dailey left BioWare in February 2022. Corinne Busche became game director thereafter, Benoit Houle director of product development, and Mac Walters production director. Walters in turn left BioWare in January 2023.
>In August 2023, BioWare laid off 50 people working on Veilguard and the next Mass Effect game. Game director Corinne Busche also left the company in January 2025.
Who at EA looks at this company and says
"Hmm, yes, let's keep giving them money, they'll get it right this time, surely!"

Dragon age is one of the most frustrating IPs I've seen mishandled how the fuck do you go from Origins and make every follow up worse?

>>700969739
Game studios are too fuckin big man.

>>700969661
>almost legendary status in the RPG genre community
is this where we're really at already? I mean it's a good game, but back when it came out, and people still remembered the great CRPGs that it tries to imitate the reception was lukewarm and everyone was hoping they would improve with DA2, which of course they didn't.

>>700969706
When it was 150 million dollars and you needed 10 million copies sold it's a close the whole fucking studio down game kek

>>700969308
KEK

>>700966608
>reached
what a curious use of words

>>700969310
>EA gives them 10 years to make a game
>EA gives them all the time and money they want
>EA lets them cancel the project TWO times and make the game they wanna make from scratch
>"Th-these out of touch suits are the problem!!!!"
Why are these people so afraid of criticizing the developers? Like what else EA could have done here lmao

>>700969921
Dragon Age was always a poor man's Baldur's Gate. Veilguard is just continuing that tradition. Origins being the strongest entry and every subsequent entry being irredeemable dogshit.

>>700970058
BG2 was good though

>>700966526
Dragonxisters... our response?

>>700969308
I still hope for a Battlezone 3, but zoomers cant fathom a RTS-FPS hybrid that makes them think

>>700966608
You can sell a lot of units of anything to complete retards through the power of advertising. With the amount of money they spent, it's basically nothing. The retards that bought it are 70 IQ and probably never even looked into or heard 1 single thing about it before buying. There's a reason marketing budgets are now 1:1 with development for all media.

>>700970162
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course it was fucking "good". It's the greatest crpg ever made.

>>700969706
BG3 has more players right now than veilguard's all time peak. If that's not dogshit numbers, I don't know what kind of parallel reality you live in.

>>700966608
The fact they say players and not sales should ring alarm bells.

>>700970180
It's so evident what they do, every time they get their asses kicked by the chuds the go UHHHHHH WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS?

>>700966526
no where near a concord tier flop as /v/ said but I expect mass effect to be shit unless its a different team

>>700966526
Still performed better than Star Wars Jedi Survivor on Steam.

>>700970351
both are garbage, what's your point?

>>700969309
faggot = gay = happy

>>700969824
Truly a mystery

>>700969614
>>700969706
It's completely irrelevant. It's not an MMO or multiplayer game, all EA cares about is sales. All the million people who bought the game could be fanatical cultists who still keep the game running even now, it's not going make EA any money.

NIGGER

>>700970757
did they mean to say negative?

>>700970757
i love that nowadays Chud is the most dangerous person on whole Earth
and another funny shit is that they made Chud themselves

>>700969310
The difference is that lifetime sales won't help this one because everyone already knows it's shit despite what journalists tried to sell us.

>>700970757
Goddamn I love being a chud, you don't even have to do anything and people will lose their minds over you.

>>700969705
Leftoids are just something else, literally all they do is cope while rightoids take the privilege of rejecting stuff like KCD2.

>>700966526
So people unironically pretended this game sold well to own the chuds?

>>700969310

EA knew within a week what the game's sales performance would be. Say what you will about them, but EA's corporate robots know their analytics.

>>700970398
Yup, I see it on /v/ all the time. Remember to reply to them with "Trump won" just like they did for 4 years.

>>700971080
That’s so funny if you think about it. They started the culture war. They infiltrated every fucking studio. They made companies bend to their whims to make an abomination like Troonguard. And they fucking lose to a bunch of /v/Irvin’s who do nothing other than have a good time shitting on something they dislike.

>>700971174
Mention how trump renamed the Gulf of America. Do that in the KCD2 thread and they shit themselves.

>Gamingcirclejerk
Reminder

>>700971458
Turns out you can't really force behavior.

>>700971570
Please retake this screenshot in a legible resolution so I can laugh properly.

>>700969310
that's after EA lowered their expectations after a couple of weeks. They reached half of their LOWERED projections. Visceral Games got canned for less. Battlefield V was considered a disappointment after 7 million copies sold. Those faggots did another Anthem.

>>700971804
I’m shock it sold less than Dead Space remake. That franchise was dead for way longer and I feel like it got way less hype than failguard.

>>700969705
>Gamingcirclejerk
maybe the one place online more consistently wrong and stupid than ReeeeeEra.

What went wrong?

>>700972267
modern audiences didn't show up :/

>>700972267
It would be simpler to ask what, if anything, went right. I can't think of any positives, beyond it being another woke flop that provides a passing amount of car crash entertainment to ridicule.

>>700966526
as the old saying goes *pokes the sign* go woke go broke.

>>700972267
modern audience got spooked by the chuds again

Mass Effect will be fine

>>700972267
Costumers weren't paying for the product, someone else was.

Chuds always win baby

Keep in mind this is on 3 platforms. What are we gonna do when Stellar Blade sells more than this when it launches on PC? I already has 1 million in just one platform, probably sold more than Dragon Age on the PS5.

>>700972558
M8, in three weeks when Avowed comes out and takes the crown of 'woke flop that /v/ laughs at until the next one,' Dragon Age is getting swept into the dustbin of history faster than you can say 'don't let trannies make your games'

>>700972472
oh fuck no I have no hope in that game lol

>>700969705
Trannies be copin
Dragon age flopped and they mopin
Soon the director be ropin
On that pack the chuddies be smokin
Gamingcirclejerk be buck broken

>>700972614
Launching woke games after Trump won is just crazy.

>>700972267
They wanted the mystical "modern audience*"

>>700972267
Just look at the development cycle.
Had they made Joplin right after Inquisition it still wouldn't have been as good as Origins but it'd at least be more in line with Inquisition possibly pleasing fans of that game.

>>700972668
and my sides be rollin
as they hatin

>>700972737
Concord launched well in advance of the election and is the biggest flop ever. I can't think of a single truly woke game that wasn't a huge flop.

>>700972267
Tranny game director, Tranny game

>>700969705
curious how no higher-ups in any company ever get fired and they always just "step down", isn't it?
every time someone "departs" or "steps down", they were forced out. that way the suits don't have to give them a severance package and the retard they forced out doesn't get a black mark on his resume.

>>700973170
>troons thinking about dead
heh

>do nothing
>win
Chuddha bros...

we did it /v/ros! we killed another studio!

>>700973505
its better for the IP to die then it is to see it live and be desecrated

>>700973505
Good, new studios must rise

>>700973436
>It's not underperforming
>They are overestimating
lol

>>700973436
what a bunch of fucking losers

>>700973593
>female
lol

>>700973436
And this is why hugboxes like Troonsky and reddit are never a good idea. Toxic positivity isn't a meme

>>700966608
nigger, dead space 3 sold 5 million and it was considered such a colossal flop that visceral got shuttered

>>700973730
yep and fans were pissed because they wanted the story to continue.

>>700973730
the whole industry needs to reign in their production budgets

>>700973730
NTA and I don't necessarily disagree, but using EA shutting down a studio as an argument in your favor is weak.

>>700973827
which will never happen as long there is a graphics arms race

>>700968989
Veilguard really is just DA's Andromeda.

This is still the best one

>>700969061
only schreier related, but does anybody have the image of schreier calling the dragons crown sorceress a "loli fantasy" in the neogaf forums before being laughed at for not even knowing what loli means

>>700974015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOlAPsazHs
I'M ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL

>>700974072
gcj sisters....we're laughingstocks...

>>700974213
since AC Shadows was mentioned, AC is too big to fail, SURELY this will succeed and make chuds seethe

>>700967529
It's not if your game's budget was 40 goyjillion dollars

>>700968989

They should do a “Dragon Age: Criterion Collection” and it’s just the first one

>>700973436
>1.5 million in a few months is reasonable for a DA game in 2025
As many others have already pointed out, the 1.5 million isn't sales, it's "reached." People who played it through a subscription service didn't necessarily buy it. Furthermore, DA:O sold like 1.15 million in its first week, and the gaming market is even bigger now. The gaslighting surrounding this game is unreal.
>>700972267
Dragon Age was a bloody, grim, dark fantasy IP with an adult fan base. Veilguard looked and was written like a Pixar game for 8 year olds. The average gamer is in their early 30s, btw.

>>700974645
absolute king, many thanks

>>700973436
>Below expectations
>It's fine, it's fine
Hmm...

She won.

>>700975198
We already know she won a long time ago when everything pointed to Shiftup being happy with how the game had done and that they feel confident enough to do a sequel. Shiftup also has the PC port to look forward to which will probably be slow burn but will still make the game sell more.

>>700966608
For actual indie game devs sure
But AAA it's bankruptcy material

>>700966526
It didn't flop. This is fake. Y'all are just a bunch of grifters.

>>700974479
They're already starting btw

>>700966608
It's more than what Stellar Blade sold lmao

>>700969487
even the shitty game i'm doing has better boobs and ass

>>700976317
Very based
Need more ass tho

>>700966608
Would be if it wasn't a AAA game that was going through a 10 year development hell. To be fair, I do think it's impressive that they put a fucking The Sims director in charge of the project and somehow a polished game was released in the end.

>>700966526
Umm, Jason? Sweaty? Are you okay?

>>700973942
what graphics arms race?
There's like 2-3 studios that are actually pushing things graphically

>>700976540
you spelled sweetie wrong

>>700966526
Isn't 1.5 million in two or three months the usual numbers Bioware games make? Inquisition was an anomaly.

>>700976274
isn't that game a ps5 exclusive?
i wonder how much DAV sold on ps5 alone without game passes and bundles

>>700976274
Jesus you troons are hopeless

>>700966608
LINE MUST GO UP BRRRRRRRRRRRR TEEE HEEEEEEEEE

>>700976918
Wow, so this is objectively the worst selling Bioware game

>>700976852
I appreciate the honesty for once. Now if only devs could stop pretending they're an audience worth catering to.

>>700966526
What the fuck does "reach" even mean? The wording there reeks of PR speak to cover up that they didn't even sell 1.5mil.

>>700976918
>Mass Effect trilogy on sold 14 million copies
I expect more considering how hyped the trilogy was back then desu.

>>700977134
Well, yeah. That's why they count "players" rather than sales. Faggot studios always try to obfuscate stuff to make it sounds better, or at least not as bad, as it really is. It's nothing new.

>>700977219
So did EA. Apparently they were puzzled why Dragon Age was doing better than Mass Effect.

>>700977134
they gave the game out with Nvidia GPUs
the game was available on EA Play
The game was also available on Geforce NOW
any person who played it here counts as a "player"

>>700966526
/v/ was shilling 500k constantly. Why did /v/ lie?

>>700966608
https://gamalytic.com/game/2527500 selling the same as an indie game made with a $20 budget and a vodka bottle

>>700977730
>Players by country
Oh that's curious
>look up dota 2
jej

>>700977685
>>700977282
Ahhh, I forgot about this.

>>700977730
i want to PAT cappie, that's all

>>700977979
Stardew Valley

>>700977979
>look up another, more obscure Russian indie game
>burgers at #1
Eto konets

>>700972267
To be honest? They dont really play games, during the veilguard launch you had some people having the game running 24/7, like the first 100 of positive reviews clocked nearly 72 hours during the first 4 days of the game released to "own the chuds".

Organically neither zommers or consolebros play that much single player games either, maybe marvel rivals or shit like PoE2 and Diablo 4.

I would say there is exceptions but the main issue is that these retards have no idea how to reach any audience that is willing to consoom like in the past.

A few years ago all they needed to do was paid some e-celebs to stream in twitch and bot the crap out of their youtube videos and that was it, but as that demographics aged and tuned out of social media (dead internet theory) and moved on.


Currently they struggle to sell anything that has not an establishe fan base not just games, you have to remember that anything new that they release is competing with old games, other hobbies, tik tok and any other form of entertainment they can find.

>>700967054
[SAD NEWS] Local anon adding filters to 4chan posts because he deemed it to be cringe

>>700966526
how does Bioware still stand despite 10 years of games that flopped?

entire studios get shut down for way less

>>700978769
There are more dead Biowares than alive Biowares at this point, they used to have lots of offices

>1.5 million is still amazing numbers
>Losing money on one of the most popular game franchises is amazing.
Lmao
The things the woke crowd tell themselves to cope

>>700973436
>1.5 million isn't so bad
The fuck? Inquisition needed 3 million to BREAK EVEN and that game was cheaper than Veilguard.

>>700972267
Veilguard is a Dragon Age game with
>poor companions
>poor romance
>poor lore
>poor worldbuilding
>poor dialogue and interactions
WHAT'S LEFT? AN "OK" COMBAT SYSTEM, AND BHARV CONTENT

>>700966982
>chuds are on the inside
huge W

>>700966608
It took them 10 years to make 2 games.
1.5 million is not even covering the cost of ONE of the games.

>>700966608
multipied by 60 bucks (that's assuming all were sales and not bundles) gives 90M dollars.
that's nowhere near what budget of modern AAA games is. it probably cost like 300M dollars to make

>>700980161
and the 300M is just production cost. who knows what they spent on marketing

>>700966608
for AAA?
you've got to be shitting me
also 1.5mln is small % compared to mobile games

>>700980161
Wouldn't it be $70×0.7=$49?

I'm non-buynary

>>700980539
Give me 20 bharvs for that, young person

>>700967617
>>700967793
It's a Japanese thing in general, I see it on a bunch of different nip BBS sites.

>>700966608
This, it’s still a good number, and only grifters are saying it’s a flop.

>>700980520
yeah i was using a rough estimate for quick calculations. this game was also on gamepass and was bundled with things like GPUs. so the cost of each unit was even lower.

>>700966608
How many of it are bundles and giveaway?

>>700973436
These retards realize that if EA's expectations are way too high they have no other choice but to downsize if not shut the studio down right?
A decade wasted and only getting 1.5 million sales is, in their favorite phrase, not fucking sustainable. I'm sure their solution is to pay the workers more and give them more time off.

>>700980685
lmao

>>700980685
But sis the company itself is saying the game underperformed by at least 50%...

>>700966608
How is that oozing crotch axe wound doing?

>>700966608
kek
1.5 million is amazing if you are a small indie developer.
It is abysmal if you are a huge game developer with hundreds of employees and owned by a multi-billion dollar corporation and your AAA game's budget is in the hundreds of millions.

>>700980782
Exactly. All of Horizon's sales are PS5 bundles. WIthout that crutch no one would even bother to remember Aloy.

Christ I can already see the GcJ posts damage controlling and saying it didn't actually flop

>>700966526
Notice how it’s says players and not copies sold. Looks like they’re doing what Bethesda did for shartfield.

>>700968090
>It's crazy how removed people are on both sides
Yeah, especially the people on the side that was right about everything they said. Those are hyper far removed.

>>700982151
Devs have been obfuscating numbers for longer than most people know or realize.
Remember "shipped" numbers or bullshit metrics like "player engagement"?

>>700974645
I'm surprised that him not knowing a weeb term hasn't completely buried him.

>>700966608
Veilguard Troon cope

>>700970398
You’ve noticed it too? It’s always goes the same way
>LOL CHUDS LOST ITS GOING TO BE GOTY
>game comes out
>LOL LOOK CHUDS ITS SELLING ITS A SUCCESS GO WOKE MAKE MILLIONS
>game flops
>OMG WHY DO YOU CARE IT DOESNT MATTER YOURE OBSESSED
This is the kind of behavior you see in massive narcissist that never learn from their mistakes because it would require them to think they can do wrong. Which is good for me since it makes it easy to deal with them.

Bad. Vibes.

>>700966608
fag

>>700982367
Yeah but this is just the latest example, and it’s easier to see through than it was before due to marketing departments getting more and more retarded.

>>700969614
Almost as good as supermarket simulator. 10-years of development well spent.

>>700982459
>most powerful man in the games industry
how does he do it?