My one goal in life is to live long enough to see the death of EA.

>>700949612
ACK

Petition to ban threads from the nazi platform X on this website.

>>700949612
I told everyone that being too cheap to renew the FIFA license would bite them in the ass and no-one listened to me.
Normies don't know that EA Sports FC is renamed FIFA.

>>700949612
Remember when Jason was arguing the game was doing fine? kek

>>700949672
that's too small a dream anon. you should hope to see EA, blizzard, ubisoft, and sony all burn. there are many things in the world worth spiting!

>>700949612
12 million to 1.5 million is a massive drop off. Has any other series undergone that level of decline in a single release?

>>700949612
1.5m players in 3 months is AA numbers
I wonder how much they spent on the game

>>700949836
literally all subs are doing this shit for fucks sake
I hate reddit so much its unreal

>>700949871
FIFA sales have been down in general even before the name change since it's the same fucking game every year like Madden and 2K. Normies are finally catching on and burning out. They only get major updates once every console gen and these console gens are spamming almost 10+ years now.

>>700949672
You'll maybe see the studios they buy die but ea and the sports games will endlessly sell to normies who gobble up them year after year buying the deluxe package and all the online booster packs

>>700949952
ea has committed more sins that all of them, playstation and xbox would improve the industry if they died too. Ubisoft sucks and deserves to die for what they have become but id actually rather they fire all the useless employees and survive, historically they actually had the highest commitment to artistic integrity of all the major third party western publishers.

>>700949612
>DA engaged ~ 1.5M players in Q3, down 50% from the publisher's estimate.
LMFAO! another notch on the belt for the chuds

>>700950331
based
I agree completely apart form shitting on Xbox, I think Xbox and MS have been a net positive for vidya as well as Ubisoft
EA and PS have been net negatives tho

>>700949612
>EA pinned most of the blame on its soccer title, EA Sports FC 2025
>see dumpter fire flop
>refuse to admit real reason
can't troon effect 4 to be the EXACT same

>>700950505
can't *wait for*

>>700949836
UHHH BASED????

>>700950413
t. Exbox tranny

>>700950505
>Is this soccer games that makes them over a billion a year not selling as well the problem?
>nah must be this other game they only expected 3 million sales of in the first place
Chuds can't stop seething.

The funniest thing isn't that it flopped but that Jason Schrier is the one writing this article. You know, the guy who proclaimed that the game was doing fine then had to later delete that tweet because he checked his connections and they proved his opinion wrong.

>>700949871
>and no-one listened to me.
because you're a retard

>>700949612
>1.5 million players

H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A

THE "GRIFTERS" TUBERS ACTUALLY DO HAVE PEOPLE INSIDE, GET FUCKED GAMING JOURNLAISTS, THAT SMASHJT BOOMER SAID 1.5 COPIES SOLD WEEKS AGO H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H

THE GAMING INDUSTRY IS FOR THE CHUDS NOW

>>700950854
no u

>>700950413
ehh, paid online, pushing game subscription services, past attempts at GFWL which will eventually culminate in a push for a windows app store, revealed docs about wanting to buy Nintendo and trying to achieve that by getting investors to pressure Nintendo to behave less like a Japanese corp and more American, (short term profit seeking) which would eventually make them susceptible to purchase. The trajectory of bungie where they quit Microsoft but the corporate stink of MS never left them and eventually destroyed them.

I think phil spencer is a decent guy and under him xbox wont do anything too evil but he will eventually quit and the disgusting corp that is microsoft will take over. They dont kill as many developers but the sin of paid online is so bad they need to go just to prevent anything on that level reoccurring.

>>700949612
Isn't ea soccer just the same game with different players every year?

>>700950413
>I think Xbox and MS have been a net positive for vidya
good one phil
go ask daddy bill to buy you another studio

>>700949612
No FIFA no buy, it's that simple

>>700950914
>relocated the devs instead of firing them
kek, what a stupid move the cancer has metastasised and will eventually kill all their other devs.

>>700949612
>1.5M players
>still a flop because they were expecting 3M
Am I so outdated and old that I think having even 100k players is really high? 1.5M players means 1.5M sakes right? How the fuck are your still losing money, how much does all pd this actually cost?

Like, a game costs $60. You get a million sales, that's $60 million. What the fuck?

>>700951404
kek

>>700951605
>You get a million sales, that's $60 million. What the fuck?
AAA titles cost $100M+ on average

>>700951605
>retard doesn't understand supply chain
Even if they made the whole $60 mil that's still a huge loss.

>>700951605
the last game sold 12 million so they invested for a game that sells in that range. 60 million dollars is nothing in 2025, after taxes and the 30% cut of game retailers you're barely left with enough to pay a AA team.

>>700951440
>Would rather move the "talent" to other teams rather than fire them
>They will somehow be surprised or pretend to be surprised that other products nosedive
I hate this fucking backwards logic of the world.

>>700951605
I think people said Inquisition costed $150M, in 2014. And we know games got more expensive to make. Getting back $60M during the quarter is really bad.

>>700949952
That sounds cool bro, can you invite me to your gay furry trans discord where you guys raid /v/ constantly to complain about everything in a vast coordinated demoralization campaign of seething?

>>700951605
Game budget was likely over 100 million minimum as that's the minimum AAA game budget

1.5 million * 50 bucks (30% goes to steam/ps/xbox etc) = 75 million

It's literally still on the red assuming the lowest budget

>>700952061
>>700952034
>>700951848
Why the fuck do AAA video games cost so much to make compared to indie games or even just AA stuff? I guess I'm out of touch because I mostly play AA anime games no one gives a shit about and they quietly truck along in the background, but I don't really get why the leap from some niche anime waifu game to AAA immediately bloats the cost by like 100x. Its not as if the game looks, runs, or is 100x better

>>700951615
Dragon Age was like 50-100 place even two weeks before release. the fags who celebrated that on the day of release the game was 1 are absolute lol.

>>700952247
It was a AAA game in development for like a decade, its on the higher end of game budgets and likely over 300 million. This is a gigantic bomb.

>>700952337
Middle management types, HR departments, other useless shit that happens when a company gets big enough.

>>700952337
Because suits are obsessed with numbers, every game has to be a blockbuster mega-production. They keep failing but next time for sure will work, for real this time. Or that's what they think.

>>700952337
studios with too many unnecessary employees + outsourcing
outrageous marketing
long ass development times and scrapping

>>700952415
And one week before release, it was on average 24 places Kingdom come for now doing a lot better. But in comparison to Monster Hunter Wilds or Sid Meier’s Civilization VII it is absolute lol.

>>700952337
AAA development, in a nutshell, is like a sculptor who needs a 10 years and a 10 ton block of marble to make a fist sized figurine because he can't quite figure out the size of it's nostrils.

>>700952337
indie games are made by 1 guy in his basement that probably eats ramen every day. AA teams are 15 guys with no managers and reasonable salaries often working remote. AAA is 200+ people with 1000 outsourcers, armies of managers and middle men, HR, corporate leadership syphoning millions a year, incredibly expensive office spaces in the most expensive cities on earth leading to astronomical dev salaries just so they can pay rent, combined with dev cycles 2-3x an indie or AA.

Old AAA is what modern AA is, that's why 1 million sales were a giant success and still is for smaller teams.

>>700952703
the tech sector needs to burn to the ground

>>700949612
>By Jason Schreier
KWAB

>>700952337
Like /g/ says, what 2 programmers can do in a month, 10 programmers can do it in two months. I bet there's lots of useless managers and constant meetings to justify their wages.

>>700952986
g-g-go w-w-oke t-top the sales charts.

>>700952337
Even like a decade ago, AAA games were done by 100-200 people. Nowadays, you have credits that are hour-long. I do not know who they hire or why. but it is all falling down. Maybe thats why we see tech bros now wanting DEI and woke gone; it did become so bad that they rather side with chuds just to get rid of the death weight.

>>700949612
They only expected 3 million Dragon Age Sales?

They knew it was trash or they're gaslighting the investors. Last game sold 10 mil. What kind of developer expects to sell only 3 mil after that?

>>700949612
Their "official statement" was that the game "reached 1.5 million people".

Now parse that out. Get specific. Does that mean 1.5 million units SOLD? Minus how many refunds? How many units were given away to influencers and reviewers and bloggers and journalists? What EXACTLY does "reach" even mean? Some unwitting thief steal a box of sealed games from a warehouse, does that count as "reach"? Does one thief of 1000 copies mean 1000 players?

They are being wildly ambiguous for a reason. Its like Disney and Netflix saying a show got watched for a million minutes. Well if the shit is an hour per episode and there's 15 episodes in a season, that really actually only means that 1100 people watched the entire thing. But A MILLION is a big number.

These fucking people warp the shit out of nuance.

>>700953121
3M during the quarter anon. They probably expected more over time.

>>700953121
>Expects 3 mil in 3 months
That's their internal prediction or lowball number for the game.

>>700952337
anon, AAA is trying to make their own GTA 5s
indie games struggle to make GTA 1

>>700952583
Company bloat? I guess that makes sense. They do say the two biggest costs in any business are wages and rent.

>>700952589
So its like, sunken cost fallacy? Gambling? You'll make it back plus more if you just win it big? In that case why don't they ever do more market research and testing to ensure a success? I don't understand why so many games are coming out that completely fail to meet expectations when they're supposed to be broad, mass market titles.

I'd get it like... Fate Samurai/Remnant failed to meet expectations because its a niche anime spin off game to a niche anime franchise, but even that exceeded expectations so they kept making DLC for it. They were fairly sure most fate fans would be interested, did market research to ser what people wanted and they got good results. They even decided against making it a soulslike as planned, which is a popular genre now especially after elden ring, because they know a lot of their players will be coming off FGO and that would be too hard for them.

>>700952643
I never understood marketing. Yeah you need some but is seeing GAME EXISTS on buses and billboards don't make me more inclined to play it. I kinda just need a twitter and a youtube channel to keep posting updates to remind me it exists and that's it.

>>700952703
Never heard of them. That looks like a techbro start up in silicon valley, are they actually successful enough to warrant all of those amenities?

>>700953169
The game was on EA Play and is now on Gamepass. And yes, they are talking about players, not copies sold.

>>700949612
RIP is piss, Bioware.

>>700951605
You're confusing revenue and profit, anon. Sure, if you sell 1m units at the standard MSRP of $60 per unit, you make $60m. But then you need to remove:
>the retailer's cut (Steam charges 30%, FYI)
>taxes, which are probably 10-15%
>any kind of manufacturing costs for physical units (this isn't as big a deal as it used to be, though)

So even before you begin deducting the money you spent to make the game, you're looking at maybe a profit of $40m or less on that initial $60m total revenue.

And there's also no way on earth that the 1.5m figure actually means 'units sold at full MSRP,' otherwise they would've said 'sold to players' instead of 'reached players.'

The game is an indisputable flop, and the Dragon Age franchise is almost assuredly dead as a AAA game.

>>700949957
Inquisition was practically given away. In a period of 10 years, it was gifted away more than Horizon Zero Dawn. 12 million was very artificial

>>700953425
>gamepass
lmfao holy fuck i wasnt even aware. so they had like 200k players buy it on steam and the rest came from their statpadding services. it explains why veilguard was only a top seller for a day

>>700953169
I mean they also say they only hit 50% of their projections with the 1.5m. I don't think they're hiding that this flopped.

>>700953393
>Gambling?
Yes, just look at sony with its 12 live service games they had in the works. Sounds ultra retarded but their logic was probably that at least one of those would make it big like a fortnite and recoup the money wasted on the other 11 games.
>market research
I bet they don't do this anymore and just hire consulting firms that tell them what to do... which is why Veilguard exists.

>Never heard of them
Guerrilla is Horizon Zero Down's developer. Sony's favorite franchise.

>>700949612
I want ea to die so we can finally get a good football game.

What do you think is the lesson the developers and publisher will take away from this flop?
For EA I believe it will be that single player games don't sell. Bioware employees will probably blame Trump or something.

>>700953690
So basically they only made Kill Zone and then moved to only making Horizon. What the fuck?

>>700953902
God I want to cum inside her.

>>700949612
>1.5 million players
Jesus....

>>700953906
>Horizon Online Project
kek didn't that get cancelled too

>>700953906
Horizon is the most forced franchise in history. Sony bundles it with fucking everything.

>>700952337
Outside of what has already been told, games are just bigger now (in size), and more people are working on them for longer periods of time. Big and complex games also usually require more or less competent devs, and these guys are expensive.

>>700953906
>10 fucking years making only Horizon
>4-5 year development cycles
>Horizon MMO fucking dead so that's about 3 years of work wasted
>STILL MORE HORIZON SHIT COMING
Grim.

>>700951605
Players do not equal sales. Refunds can be counted in there, pirated copies can be counted, and so can copies that were given away for free.

>>700953580
I'm going to be generous and estimate about 600k copies sold across all platforms. +-50k refunds. And everybody else got the game off a service, tried it for an hour and ditched it.

>>700953906
How the fuck do they afford their expensive offices at >>700952703 when they only make fucking Horizon?

>>700953906
You can probably bet there not even 5% of the people there that used to work on Killzone.

>>700953902
I think the public tenor, that the writing was dogshit and the tone sucked, was loud enough that they had to take note. Didn't someone working on the next ME basically say that the game would "stick to the other games" shortly after Veilguard came out or something like that?

>>700954250
Herman Hulst's waifu is Nikocado

>>700949612
>Bloomberg
That's that faggot kike's publication in it?

>>700952703
>>700952337

>well "FORMER INDIE DEV" now that we have secured funding for your next big project you're free to make your dreams come true!
>theres juuuuust a couple of little issues. the shareholders are concerned about individual programmers having access to the company's data and working off campus, so we've arranged to have every employee provided with a state of the art workstation and a cubicle in the office
>yes thats right the office! dont worry it'll be lots of fun, air hockey tables and free food in every inch of floor space not taken up by a cubicle
>well if some off the staff might be resistant to this new way of working you can refer them to HR. oh don't worry HR are here to to protect YOU! its standard procedure for every megacorp
time passes
>so the shareholders have some concerns about the direction of the project. this handcrafted lo fi single player RPG looks great, we love it! but the board feels that a live service FPS is the way to go to really drive engagement.
>i know i know its going to be a huge undertaking to make an entirely new type of game but don't worry about the money because the board has faith in you, the shareholders have faith in you
>while we're here, we LOVE the art and style of the project but we just have some small concerns about the diversity and inclusivity of the art. the board have headhunted the best artists in california to come on board and provide a fresh new perspective
more time passes
>hi "FORMER INDIE DEV" listen come in and take a seat. as a valued member of the MEGACORP family there's no easy way to tell that due to lack luster sales and a failure to recoup the investments made in this project, we're shuttering the studio effective immediately. clean out your desk and leave all of our property with HR on your way out.

thats how it happens, thats how it goes

>>700949612
Flopped and shitted

>>700953902
EA is the only publisher with competent leadership. They will understand the cause, I'm assuming mass effect is biowares last chance and they will be completely shut if it flops.

>>700953902
nice, is this the warframe hag?

>>700949612
cope
it sold millions

>>700954469
You should not bother giving them any kind of benefit of a doubt after the amount bullshit they've pulled.

>>700950068
Its been in development for a decade so they have spent alot

>>700949612
RETURN TO FORM. BACK TO THE ORIGIN-0

>>700949836
petition denied

>>700954336
>Guerrilla uses a proprietary game engine now known as Decima.[41] The Decima engine is also used by other developers, such as Kojima Productions who use it for the Death Stranding series. In April 2023, Guerrilla Games announced that the studio's technical director Michiel van der Leeuw would be focusing on the development of the engine.[40]
I'm guessing it's partly engine licensing and the rest is Sony pouring money into the studio as part of their attempts at getting people to give a shit about Horizon as an IP.

>>700951234
It's worse than that.
It's the same game but they reset people's gacha purchases every year
Some people spend tens of thousands of dollars on each game and EA just keeps taking it away and they keep paying

Absolutely mental

>>700952583
And seems like they will not leave any time soon.

>>700949612
More like Dragon Age: The Failhard.

>>700954876
Oh so its like Epic staying afloat with Unreal or whatever? Also I would have thought Kojima wpuld use FOX Engine, is that owned by Konami or somethijg?

>>700955006
>Epic has Unreal and Fortnite
>Guerrilla has the Horizon engine
>Squeenix has FFXIV
>Xbox has Microsoft's infinite money
Man there's so many companies surviving thanks to shit like this.

>>700954939
Oh yeah, I forgot about ultimate team. After they released the exact same game two years in a row, anyone still playing that trash deserves what they get. I've said it before and I'll say it again, whales are killing the games industry.

>>700949612
Get woke, go bro-...errrrm, top the charts

>>700954084
I think it was a rumor, not confirmed, but it wouldn't surprise me. Sony is on a canceling spree at the moment after Concord

>>700949612
wow, who would thought? lmao
can already see this kind of news happening with Kingdom meme and Assassin's meme next lol

>>700952124
>hating ea ubisoft and blizzard is some schizo discord conspiracy
lol suck sperm, faggotus retardicus.

>>700955006
Unreal licensing revenue isn't worth shit, especially now that they've expanded their business on the back of Fortnite
Without that game, they would implode

>>700949836
petition to ban this gay reddit retard

Oh nononono

>>700949957
>1.5 million players
Players, not unit sold they are counting these from EA play and the ones with free copies from GPU bundles

>>700955658
epic rakes in cash for unreal engine on AAA games. what the fuck are you talking about. its only indie slop they lose money on, but it's a loss leader for them. indies learn the engine for free developing their pixel shit, and then go on to use it at big studios when their indie crap fails and they need a job.

>>700956197
Shut the up you retard

>>700955006
No. Epic does not make a lot of money from licensing Unreal to game devs but it makes a lot from licensing it to animation/CG studios. They also run Fortnite that still is massive somehow.

This is what happens when the money guys pull back and let creatives go nuts. The whole thing collapses. Rein them in even harder than in the old days. Now

>>700956197
>what the fuck are you talking about.
It's only about 5-10% of their revenue, it's fucking nothing
It was part of the reports during Epic vs Apple, you can go look it up

>>700949612
So when is that fabled silent majority gonna pull up and buy it?

>>700949612
Fake news, Schreier said Veilguard was a huge success, and owned all the Chuds. And I think he would know a little something about success.

>>700956508
majority of that revenue is also from movie studios now not even from video game devs too lmao.

>>700949612
who's Bookings Slid?

>>700956923
Funny you say that, look who wrote the article.

>>700950331
Ubisoft has done some terrible shitty games, but I do believe they actually want to make great games and watching them always having to fend off the next "investment firm" that wants to corporate raid them and gut them like a fish is just sad.

Ubisoft can't die until I get Anno: Rome.

>>700949612
I legitimately didn't even know this came out already

free Palestine

Why do businesses now constantly use the term bookings instead of sales?

>>700949612
but Jason Sheberg told veilguard was success?

I remember people telling me the game wouldn't flop because "dragon age is a popular series" on here. Glad I was proven right.

>>700954250
The mmo is not cancelled tho and it wasn't being made by guerrilla anyways

>>700957096
free europe mudslime

>>700955196
Fuck you, those whales voted for Trump. There’s the reason our nation is healing now.

>>700954876
Engine licensing for a game that sold didn't even sold half of hzd sure...
we have leaks of their entire revenue and units sales no need to make up imaginary scenarios

>>700956765
its what I browse at work
cant browse mongolian basket weaving forums as jannies do jackshit
my twitter leans also a bit, uh, right

reddit is SFW usually so I shitpost there but their mods as well as clientele are just so fucking uppity its insane

>>700957172
When did this start? The Newspeak Dictionary is changing so fast these days.

>>700957172
They don't give a shit about sales, only the whales that are going to spend billions on gacha.

>>700951605
Let's be really, really generous.

100 Devs
Avg Salary: $100k
4 year average Development: You're already at $40million.

>Now pay Steam's 30%
>Now pay marketing
>Now pay all the other non Dev teams
>Now pay rent, electricity, health insurance, holiday/sick pay, development licences and machines
Etc etc etc etc

>>700951605
>that's $60 million
All storefronts take 30% from every copy sold. So game Sold on Steam Valve takes 30$ then one on PSN Sony takes 30% and so on lol.

>>700954939
also the gacha pool got fucked with because they inclued female soccer players in the mix as well

>>700949612
>EA Sports FC 24
>Handsome white male on the cover
>EA Sports FC 25
>Broccoli-haired nigger on the cover
it's almost like they wanted it to fail.

I like seeing yet another Amerimutt studio going to shit. People are beginning to realize almost anything entertainment related that's from the US is dogshit just like the Russian military.

>>700949836
oh wow another leftoid faggot from... oh wait, am I for or against this?

>>700949836
Sure, but only because all of these threads are garbage.

>>700957041
holy kek

>>700949836
this is not reddit nigger

>>700949672
I always thought they were immortal based on their sportsball games, but sounds like even that cash cow is growing weak.

>>700949871
You're retarded.

>>700950112
You're dumb. FIFA23 was their biggest FIFA title and EA FC24 was bigger than that.

>>700958131
I wonder if that's what fucked them. People probably blindly bought #24 where they forced women into the gacha pool and now #25 has to deal with it.

>>700957172
Because someone playing on game service subscription things can't be counted as a sale, I'd assume.

>>700957748
I'm glad people can still make posts like this, even if you're being really, really generous.
Every now and again some anon will say something like
>I could make a game better than this for less than $600,000!
And it's just baffling.
A bipolar narcissist in a manic state wouldn't even make a claim that delusional; they'd have to be bipolar and from Tajikistan where $1 US can buy a child slave.

But you're not even being that generous, because a 4 year development cycle for AA and definitely AAA games isn't normal now, they're all 5 years.

To clarify: They said that the "engaged approx 1.5 million players"
They did not say it sold that much, because it sold far less than that. This is just them trying to salvage their image for shareholders with corpo speak

>>700950331
Consoles have ruined video games and it is now more apparent than ever

>>700953107
>Nowadays, you have credits that are hour-long

It's infuriating knowing this only occurs in western-developed games.

>>700957748
You’re making a very naive assumption that devs in major companies even make above 70k.

>>700949612
Somebody check on mr. Schreier. Is he okay?

>>700960127
You absolutely can make a better game than this and that’s not narcissism. That’s taking a look at a shitty game that was made better and for less 10+ years ago and wondering how much of it got laundered

>>700952703
I remember Guerilla games. They made that game ... Killfront? Where the North Koreans invade the US? Or am I thinking of a different studio?

>>700954336
Being one of Sonys favorites has its perks

>>700949612
wokies what the FUCK happened??? I thought we were gods???

>>700951605
>because they were expecting 3M

They were expecting a lot more than 3M they just revised their estimates right before the game launched after seeing the poor reception.

>3M players would have been enough to recover $300,000,000 ($300.000.000) budget
not believing it once second kek

one*

>>700949612
>1.5 million players
That's more retards than I thought. Hopefully they learned their lesson.

>>700961976
Homefront

>>700949836
Communist infighting is peak communism, sovl.

>>700949612
Ugh. This is just going to encourage all the toxic gamers and content creators jumping up down and shouting, "See?! SEEEEEE?!!!! WE WERE RIGHT" and honestly, its rather sad that they feel this much joy about this.

Thousands of people enjoyed the game, and they have to deal with all this shit with people shouting in their faces that they have no standards, aren't real DA fans, or say "I see you enjoy trash" like what are you getting out of this????

Other than projecting your disappointment with the final product and trying to make people feel bad for enjoying things? Anytime I see this behavior from people, even though I don't know them irl, I immediately think less of them as a human being. It's absolutely disgusting, and I'm tired of so many people just ignoring, allowing, and worse, participating in it.

Case in point, go visit the DA Origins subreddit, I bet they're having a field day with this...

>>700961976
See >>700953906

>>700961207
>shilling shit games to pwn the chuds
If this tweet isn't proof of horseshoe theory then idk what its

I'm kekking knowing that KCD2 is performing worse in the global top seller sharts compared to Veilguard which didn't even sell a million copies

>>700963868
Oh! I mixed them up entirely.

Posting this one here too
>OH NO THE CHUDS HAVE REAL INTEL

>>700963862
pee pee poo poo bruugjhsnn pffff

>>700957041
I bet he asked for clarification a dozen times.
>c-can you check the numbers again

>>700949612
>reached 1.5 million players during the quarter, missing the company’s expectations by around 50%.
Are these actual sales or is it inflated by the character creator demo and ea play subscribers?

>>700964260
inflated bullshit to peddle to investors obviously

>>700964260
Absolutely inflated for investors. Companies always use vague, bullshit language for their geezer cattle.
>check out this "engagement" graph

>>700964061
That JT guy has had insiders message him and every single time it turns out to be true

>>700949612
>this dude killed an entire studio
why'd he do it

>>700964260
Nope it's corpo cope to appease retarded boomers.
Also you forgot to factor in the free copies from nvidia gpus

>>700964260
It's talking about the final game so no demos, but EA Play and the free GPU copies are totally included

>>700964260
The game was given away with CPUs, GPUs, GeForce Now, EA play and even GamePass. 1.5 million "players", not even sales. This is pathetic.

>>700964260
I love how they have to invent fake statistics to soften up the blow every time some game flops.
Meanwhile when a game is actually successful

Circlejerktroon status?

Uuuuuuuhhhh Stellar Grift flopped

PFFFTAHAHAHAHAH

>>700965614
I'm not laughing.

>>700949612

Excited to see the 'Bioware getting axed' news soon

>>700964260
>Are these actual sales
Why can't you just read what you quoted?

>>700965614
It's funny, but I don't think leftists believe most of the stuff they say. They are goal oriented and say what they want to be true, not what is true.

what's a veilguard?

a miserable pile of code

How does it feel to continuously win without lifting a finger?

>>700949836
+1

>>700949612
But Schreier said that us chuds got BTFO? Was he wrong?! Could it be that they went woke and got broke? Nonsense, I refuse to accept it.

>>700964518
The first time I saw that "so... I'm non-binary" clip I'd never imagine that voice would come out of that thing. In my head it had the voice of sseth or something.

>>700951605
>3M
Initial forecast was 8 Million, they lowered it to 3 Mil after everybody saw the DEI crap and laughed at it.
Also, keep in mind that Bioware only continues to exist in order for EA to siphon off the free tax dollars that the Canadian government hands out to businesses that are established by Canadian citizens on Canadian soil and export goods to other countries. The games are made cheap to avoid using up too much of that cash, but are still expected to meet some kind of sales threshold in order to avoid looking bad on shareholder reports.

>>700967204
Him deleting the tweet so fast was very telling kek.

>>700952703
This looks more like a state university than a game development studio

>>700954336
They're owned by Sony and the guy who's in charge is also in charge of Playstation.

>>700960709
>84,000 people actually wanted to watch BotW's credits
The fuck

>>700949612
>Dragon Age
they still make those?

>>700960709
Rookie numbers

>>700951605
Veilguard was in development for 10 years with varying project titles and core gameplay ideas. That shit cost a lot and they need far more than 1M to break even.

>>700949612
mass effect?

>>700954469
Yeah the game director suddenly tweeted stuff like "I love Mass Effect" and things like that.

>>700957172
The same way publishers use "X number of players" instead of "X number of copies sold" these days. Gotta pump up those numbers, classic window dressing.

>>700953492
>tax
dont corporation pay tax on profit?

>>700952037
There's only so many companies they can jump ship to until there's nothing left. And I'm sure these fuckers don't have any experience of maintaining finances either, so more for the homeless.

>>700954674
I've been hearing this shit since Andromeda.

>>700949612
I was looking through old news about this yesterday.
Some how, comparing the games on Steam, a bigger launch than Star War Jedi Survivor was their proof this was a success.
Now they can't even say sales just "reached players."

It's legendary that these extremely liberal game studios all collectively convinced themselves that they were representative of the average gamer, and that the mythical modern audience was real.
Reality hits hard, turns out the real world isn't twitter and that they're all living inside of a bubble. Hundreds upon hundreds of millions lost, decades of time wasted. All because of pure hubris.

>>700967963
What in the goddamn?

>>700967963
>>700969480
most of that is probably outsourced pajeets

YOU NO RIKE GRORIOUS BIOWARE
THEY MAKE THE ORR REPUBRIC WITH REDHEAD JEDI TOMBOY AND BRONDE SITH ROMANCE
THEY MAKE VEIRGUARD WITH DWARF GIRR ROMANCE
YOU NO DESERVE GEIMU
END OF RINE

-------------------------------------
RINE END HERE

>>700960709
>>700967963
>>700969480
>>700969543
I've noticed most games will list all their publisher's employees, from CEO to marketing to translations to QA to legal. Same with developers licensed tools like Havok and Wwise, another list of employees.
Black Ops has help from Activision Central Design, Activision Central Technology, Activision Shanghai, Demonware, High Moon Studios, Infinity Ward, and Sledgehammer Games.

>>700967963
Ubi has been outsourcing PoP to India, right?

How the FUCK do you fuck up so bad that even EA had to lower their expectations for this and they still didnt hit the mark?

>>700949836
upvoted and here's your reddit gold

>>700971624
Not just that, failing during a time when people are hungry for a fantasy WRPG with story, worldbuilding and romance.

>>700957172
It’s not technically a sale and it’s not ARR, so they use bookings.

Serious question
How fucked is Mass Effect bros?

>>700973434
Nigga its been fucked since ME3, get some fucking new material

>>700964518
Cause her bitch mom wouldn't accept her pronouns

I'm non-buynary

Can't wait for all those people to be replaced by AI

/v/ they lied and said Bioware edmonton was closing.

>>700975134
nig u looking at it in some twisted fuckin way
to keep it simple, 0 job openings (right after finishing a game) = it's joever

>>700949672
This but America

>>700968628
Different studio.

>>700951615
That post didn't Dragon Age well.

>>700949612
Return to form?

>>700949612
>whispered to Jeff Grubb
Jeff Grubb is a beta cuck from Giant Bomb and a simp of Alyssa Mercante. Plus he stole information from Smash JT.

>>700975134
that literally says "rumor"

>>700967204
Jason Schreier is a male feminist cuckold and a misandrist.

>>700964506
Until Jeff Grubb of Giant Bomb and simp of Alyssa Mercante, stolen the source for his own.

>>700963980
>6 years in the making while building a fanbase that loves historical accuracy
>shits on that fanbase on the last few weeks before released
That performance is to be expected. Casuals barely knows of the series existence unlike Dragonage.

>>700949836
you will never be the postal guy, tranny

>>700977426
>will looks
Is he ESL?

>>700949836
seething

>>700970132
Thank you based Stanley Roo, grorious Bioware forums moderator

Veilguard was destroyed by bad vibes. And now many talented workers of Bioware will be out of jobs, they'll have no way to feed their families. Chud grifters should be held liable for the damage they've done to actual, living people.

>>700981672
>pretend hate campaigns have no power to not empower the chuds
lmao trannies are so pathetic

>>700949952
As an origin systems devotee, no vidya company has enraged and offended me more than EA.
The others would be amusing, but not personally vindicating. The death of EA would satisfy the yearning in my very soul.

>>700949836
petition for you to tongue my anus

Troons have been taking L after L the past year. And now Trump bans trannies from reality. The dawn of the anti woke era is now.

>>700981672
Devs jobhop all the time.
Stop over-exaggerating everything, faggot.