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Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:42:18 No.16548308
>>16531197
It's pretty easy: just be good-looking. You are good-looking right? Right?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:48:38 No.16548319
PCM Stoic Sayings
Should I choose a chemistry research topic that is as close to what industry is doing (synthetic organic chemistry or semiconductors) or a research topic that involves be an expert in lots of laboratory methods/analytical techniques and instruments?
The internet is telling me to do the former but people irl is saying the latter.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)10:55:39 No.16548326
Has anyone here worked at a Nuclear Fusion laboratory?
How is it?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:00:06 No.16548333
>>16548326
I have not worked there by check the Glassdoor reviews of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Lawrence-Livermore-National-Laboratory-Reviews-E35235.htm
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:10:06 No.16548346
>>16536591
>Mainly the general subject knowledge and methodology/instrumentation familiarity are skills that ended up being useful
Good to know. Did publications matter at all?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:12:40 No.16548350
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:16:39 No.16548358
>>16543168
>The longer I remain here the more unemployable I become
Please elaborate on this. Many people think those government labs are the most prestigious positions you can get in research.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:20:55 No.16548359
>>16548350
Can you elaborate on your future goals. How much experience do you have and in what?
But generally, consider going to graduate school or switching to an adjacent field like IT or something. There should be some IT help desk positions available somewhere.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:23:26 No.16548363
>>16548359
Cs degree + internships and 2yoe doing backend .Net development.

Right now I'm trying to find anything that ideally avoids the time and monetary costs of retraining as much as possible.

Don't think grad school is an option for me rn.
I've been looking at IT for sure.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)11:34:32 No.16548371
mood
>>16547588
I am a semester into my PhD program right after graduating from my undergraduate college and I feel so underprepared for everything. I thought it was just imposter syndrome until I failed a class. I am thinking of dropping and enlisting in the military.
I have no idea why there are people with years of industry experience doing a PhD in the first place. Maybe they got fired and are waiting out the bad job market?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)12:44:33 No.16548449
>>16548319
Wait what? Isn't synthesis pretty much dead and semi-conductors extremely niche and most industry jobs for chemists being analytics slaves? I think you got it wrong.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)13:47:36 No.16548536
You are not needed or wanted give up
>>16548449
>synthesis pretty much dead
That's what I read online. Pharmaceutical research is getting more complex and more regulated each year.
>semi-conductors extremely niche
I am not sure about that, but TSMC's new plants in Arizona is already a disappointment and construction isn't even done yet and there have been massive layoffs in industries related to semi-conductors so overall, the job market for it is in the gutter.
>most industry jobs for chemists being analytics slaves
So should I focus on learning about as much analytical techniques and instruments as possible during graduate school?
>I think you got it wrong
Yes. I regret getting a chemistry degree and getting into STEM overall.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)16:09:37 No.16548650
Whatever happened to young executives and why aren't I one
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)17:22:28 No.16548728
gemmywind
>>16548650
The crappy job market is making positions that allow formerly-young executives to move up the career ladder very scare and so they stay put where they are. In the meantime, try practicing your leadership skills on the local community via volunteering opportunities.
>>16548363
>avoids the time and monetary costs of retraining as much as possible
Do you not want to retrain because you do not have time to because you work in a warehouse or because of money issues? Or is it both?
If it's because of time, that's understandable, but try to get some learning done, even one class is okay. If it's because of money, there are opencourseware videos and/or free textbooks available (piracy). If it's both, then use the opencourseware and textbooks and take an hour or two a week to learn from them.
Also try asking Workplace, CS, and SWE stack exchange forums.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:04:31 No.16548759
>>16548350
I've been working for UPS loading trucks since September and even though the managers treat me really well I still want to kms too. I know that feel.
I might have finally found a real job now so there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep pushing. Unfortunately you might have to go on LinkedIn and start talking to recruiters
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)18:58:51 No.16548790
>>16548536
No, you go full steam ahead with semiconductors, materials science, energy science und electrochemistry while not neglecting analytic and spectroscopic methods because you don't what to work taking samples at some fucking municipal water plant for the rest of you life and try to get an industry internship as soon as possible. Something like photovoltaics would be great because it's at the intersection of all of those fields.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:01:37 No.16548827
>>16548728
It's mainly time, but also money lol. Additionally, I don't know if I have it in me to start from square one on something again. Particularly with the way things are in the world rn. Id rather do something lowcode/tech-adjacent than try to enter a completely new career path.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:03:47 No.16548828
>>16548759
Good luck man, you definitely got to do what you got to do in these circumstances.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:11:35 No.16548835
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis as a big national research institute for the prestige
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis as a small industry-adjacent research institute for the compromise
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis at a university department for the better supervision and grade inflation
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis at a private company for the experience and the networking

Which way should I go, sci-man?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:25:56 No.16548839
=)
>>16548835
4th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)20:31:42 No.16548845
>>16548839
>>16548839
So 4th 1st, 1st 2nd, 2nd 3rd and 3rd 4th, yes?
Anonymous 01/15/25(Wed)21:32:48 No.16548880
>>16548845
Yes. I should have clarified that. But don't just take my advice only. If you have the time, wait a week to get possibly get more answers. Or try asking other forums.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)01:10:09 No.16549270
>>16543168
Medical physics is just the new meme certification. They've got thousands of paranoid physics grads dropping tons of money on cert programs that can take years, and in the end your best case scenario is you get to compete with some Indian or African H1B workers for a job as an MRI tech or spreadsheeting out radiation treatment plans for cancer patients.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)08:36:06 No.16550306
Should I study Chemistry which I like and can do somewhat easily, or Biology which I love but will have to temporarily sacrifice my relationship for? What aere the job prospects for either? I'm quitting my job to go back to uni and I need to make sure I make the right decision.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)08:49:23 No.16550316
Any good universities in Sweden for RF/microwave work ?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:45:36 No.16550377
>>16550297
>>16550346
1. didn't want to get a PhD
2. didn't want to live in California
3. didn't go to school in California so never would have been hired anyways
4. I'm white
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:47:27 No.16550381
>>16548728
>try practicing your leadership skills on the local community via volunteering opportunities.

Understood I will start dealing tina immediately
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:50:25 No.16550386
hq720 (1)
Allow me to hate for a minute:

Nathan Lambert looks like a gay gray alien. He looks like he frequents bathhouses and it makes me sick to look at him. Also I hate LLMs and anyone who endeavours to make them better and thus usher in the coming mass surveillance and control prison planet we will all be living in.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:52:51 No.16550390
>>16550386
The true nature of the bugman, what he fundamentally represents when stripped of all pretention, is science divorced from philosophy.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:54:03 No.16550391
>>16550390
Honestly so true mate and he's fucking ugly to boot.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)09:57:33 No.16550397
>>16550391
I think we should go back to Greek standards. All the men walk around wearing togas and those who have muscular bodies inherently have more credibility than dweebs built like twigs. The muscular body symbolizes a stronger connection to reality.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:05:38 No.16550517
>M-W is 14 hour days in the field
>Th is 3 hours WFH paperwork and a meeting
>F-Su off

This schedule is killing me lads
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:13:52 No.16550535
>>16550517
Yea my first job after college was a field service engineer and I quickly realized 12 hour days are not for me. I was also insanely resentful of the office engineers who just slurp coffee and sit at the computer all day. But in this job market I would not leave until you have something else lined up.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:14:50 No.16550538
hess
its over for me
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:17:01 No.16550542
>full-time Industry PhD at a high-end manufacturing company in collaboration with my university and the national space agency

Should I even bother writing an application?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:18:01 No.16550545
>>16550316
Look at LinkedIn and search at what universities the engineers of Ericsson and Gripen studied at.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:21:47 No.16550547
>>16550535
The coffee slurpers tell me

>OMG you get half days on Thursday and a three day weekend every week!

No you desk nigger, I spend Thursday and Friday sleeping and letting my body heal with maybe getting drunk on Saturday night with the existential dread of what Monday brings.

The only thing that makes this job worth it is the per diem. At least I get to eat steak n lobster every night.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:55:22 No.16550587
>>16550306
The job market for both STEM fields suck at the moment. For chemistry, the best fields is synthetic organic chemstry/medicinal chemistry or semiconductors but both industries are getting hit with layoffs and/or regulation. I guess you can be a technician, but your research will have to involve a lot of analytical methods and instruments. But generally, the chemistry job market sucks. IDK about biology, but it is always been worse than chemistry.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)11:57:27 No.16550590
over
>>16550538
It's over for most people. We're just the ones that notice it.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)13:03:44 No.16550695
Math PhD anon here. Should I get a second master in physics or cs? I'm leaning cs, but the industry is in bad shape. I actually have some renewed interest in physics so that might be the way to go.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)13:04:46 No.16550699
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)13:15:54 No.16550720
>>16550538
Man its so over for me it's all that I can do not to rope.
How did things get so fucked. Idk. But this sucks.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)17:34:10 No.16551422
>>16548346
>>Did publications matter at all?

In my case, not really, and I doubt the people recruiting me read any of them. My publications were in their general ballpark, but in the end quite distinct from what the company was doing, both in terms of materials class and methods.

More generally, I think they can be meaningful if they happen to line up well with what your employer is doing. It's a tangible output demonstrating knowledge and achievement in your specialty.

I think especially people with academic background might raise their eyebrows if you are a doctor with no publications, but it's not the be-all-end-all metric like in academia.


>>16548449
>semi-conductors extremely niche
It's a huge industry with extremely broad and active research and development. Not only for the materials directly, but also within applications, characterization, equipment, you name it.


>>16550695
What doors do you think a masters in physics would open that are not currently open to you? Physics is the kind of degree I think universities were made for and learning for its own sake has value, but it is very much not a vocational degree. If you're looking to make yourself more employable, I would definitely go CS over physics, unless you have a specific path involving physics in your mind. Whatever generic qualifications a physics masters would give you, you already have.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)20:05:09 No.16552857
>>16548346
>>16551422
Most employers aren't going to get into the nitty gritty of your publications, if they read them at all. For the most part they're just interested in
a) the fact that you're capable of doing the work involved in publishing a research paper, the research itself and the review process, and
b) if your research is even vaguely in their own wheelhouse, which may score you some points.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)21:52:57 No.16553036
sup stinkys
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:30:31 No.16553504
My supervisor and his little butt boy effective altruist accomplice are cruising for some bruisings. Maybe I'll use my charm, winning smile and everything I'm learning from reading books on improvisational theatre to put them at ease, maybe have a few drinks in a social setting then BLAMMMMO spinning back kick into a fucking canal
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:30:07 No.16553738
My STEM career is a brutal mire of tedium and failure. Every day brings a fresh humiliation.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:32:38 No.16553742
>>16552857
high level, show some passion for what you are doing, particularly what they will be expecting you to do for them.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)09:47:06 No.16553765
1_dcJ7_AlibcRUpPeaZJEBCw
There are college kids that have never used git that are closer to getting a SWE role than I am as a mid-level, because of an employment gap
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:02:57 No.16553790
People always told me to join the power industry for the "stability" but after a year of working at a major utility it has been anything but stable. Layoffs, c-suit level firings, constant management and organizational changes, and daily terroristic threats from disgruntled customers. Combined with a low salary and a "temp-to-hire, no benefits" contract model for new employees, working in power feels like a giant scam. The guys at the top are doing good though I guess.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:17:42 No.16553798
>>16551422
>Physics is the kind of degree I think universities were made for
What did he mean by this?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:19:21 No.16553799
>>16553798
It would take a while to explain, but the short version is - he's a massive faggot. And also quite stupid.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:20:47 No.16553802
I have a bs in cheme. Is it worth it to get a masters if my company pays for it?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:22:25 No.16553803
>>16553802
>is it worth getting something for free?
For a STEM oriented place why does this general have to many low IQ posters?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:44:18 No.16553825
>>16553802
No.
Just make sure you are constantly grinding LeetChem and developing new synthesis techniques in your home lab to demonstrate passion.
Also practice answering cultural-fitness questions and you should make it through at least 4 or the 5 interview rounds.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:52:26 No.16553841
Is it normal to do literally nothing in the office
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)10:57:39 No.16553848
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:08:38 No.16553871
1. Continue current engineer job until I retire.
Pros
>Easy and will live a well off life
>great benefits, pension+401k
>very secure
>wfh a lot
Cons:
>not intellectually stimulating at all
>very very boring work

2. study to try to get nyc/chicago quant job
Pros:
>most lucrative path by far
>don’t have to quit current job while studying for this
>can do part time intern work whenever through connections with wall st/ceo level people to at least get some finance experience
Cons:
>have to move to nyc or Chicago
>competitive, no guarantee I make it
>harder path

3. Study, go back for a phd in physics and try to get a research scientist job in industry or government lab.
Pros:
>what I would do if money and time were no object
>still good pay+well off life if I make it but never super rich as option 2
>work on exciting problems instead of being a monkey
Cons:
>Riskiest option, would have to leave my job for a big pay cut during phd, no guarantees I finish it or get a job after
>possibly the least lucrative option long term, due to disruption of current pay/trajectories

My current job will reimburse some education every year so I could get another bachelors or masters while working
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:11:50 No.16553876
>>16553871
Job market is shit and there are no golden tickets. I recommend staying at your current job
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:13:56 No.16553877
>>16553876
This. Maybe do some online classes if you like.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:32:49 No.16553896
>>16553871
Also I had been accepted to a good Phd program in 2020 and decided to go for a more “prestigious” place for masters instead, underestimating the price and due to outside factors was severely depressed and barely graduated. Don’t know if it’s even worth putting on a resume it was so bad. it is the biggest regret of my life not going for the PhD back then idk why im so retard
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:49:40 No.16553911
>>16553871
was there a question?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)11:50:45 No.16553913
>>16553896
Dude, why would you turn down a PhD position. They are rare. Only 1-2% of people have a PhD .
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:06:21 No.16553926
>>16553911
Tell me what to do I have a track record of bad life decisions
>>16553913
Idk man I thought I could just get a masters and do a PhD after if I wanted or get a job. Does not work that well when you skip all your classes and barely graduate. The place I could’ve gone wasn’t even bad it is good and has partnerships with big tech and government labs I was just fucking retarded
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:43:23 No.16553978
I literally cannot stand ""working"" as an engineer. Even teaching high school was 10x better than this literal hell on earth.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:56:16 No.16554001
Slam dunk effective altruists into trash cans. Set them on fire. Stub their toes. Give them atomic wedgies. Take their precious Harry potter fan fiction religious texts and throw them into a sewer.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:11:34 No.16554037
Best job avoidance degree?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:18:58 No.16554048
I want to die.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)13:27:00 No.16554062
>>16553978
whats so bad about it
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)15:47:36 No.16554236
>>16553978
Compared to undergrad studying every single fucking day of my life, my boring job has been an absolute fucking blessing. I got lucky in that the group I work with mostly happens to be some really cool guys. I'm sure the same job but with less likeable/cohesive people would be much worse but I'm just appreciating what I have while I have it.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)16:56:03 No.16554340
>>16553765
You can say "I took some time off to learn some skills that the job market demands such as [insert required a skill in the job description]" or something like that on your CV.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)17:18:18 No.16554372
1721088008013100
I want a phd because that gates off the good money in biochem jobs but none of the colleges near my work offer a chem postgrad program. Would going for a bio phd be a decent substitute? Or alternatively do those online phd programs have any merit to them or are they just scams? Desu idk wtf Im doing
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)17:20:07 No.16554373
>>16554372
>do those online phd programs have any merit to them or are they just scams?

Never heard of a legitimate correspondence course PhD and it's hard to see how it would be anything but a scam.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)19:15:40 No.16554551
Another week of pathetic salary in the books.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:20:42 No.16554613
Screenshot 2025-01-12 222443
Will photonics boom within the next decade?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:30:43 No.16554622
does anyone here live in a country where the population is declining by 0.5 to 1% per year and there is absolutely no immigration?

it must be like a paradise because it frees up so many entry level jobs right?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)20:58:00 No.16554641
>>16554622
Line must go up.
At all costs.
Up to and including nuclear annihilation.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)22:20:03 No.16554718
1673101742800895
What the fuck is a Systems Engineering degree?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:37:06 No.16555157
>>16554613
current quantum computing tech is photonics based, so yeah
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)09:39:50 No.16555160
>>16554236
This, every morning I wake up feeling thankful I am not in uni anymore. Also, learning on the job is so, sooo much less stressful yet more efficient than in uni.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)19:45:51 No.16555803
Employers Reject 37% of Applicants
Is it worth it to do collaborations with other people, labs, or even universities or should I only do it when necessary? I noticed my research has a noticeable overlap with other research from other colleges/universities in my area and I was thinking of reaching out to work with them. It could expand my network but it also is kind of time-consuming and I do not want to rely on others for results.
Would it even be possible for ugly males like me or is there a looks requirement to collaborations?
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)20:47:45 No.16555843
>>16551422
Where do you go to learn about the upcoming trends and demands of the chemicals industry? O
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:48:41 No.16556080
I was putting the moves on my woman this morning, I'm a sensual lover so I like to get in mood: candles, massage oil, Barry white, you know what it is. And guess who sends me an email, on a motherfucking Sunday, asking me to send some little piece of code or some shit I'd already sent? My fucking supervisor. I forgot to turn my phone off, see it out of the corner of my eye and immediately the mood is SHATTERED.

I am going to KILL this honkey motherfucker, ruining my sex life too now damn
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)11:07:01 No.16556224
>>16554718
Weapons
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)11:43:29 No.16556246
I've been clicking on so many profiles of beautiful women on Linkedin (on private mode) that the Linkedin algorithm is beginning to show me profiles of women that are in different countries, with 0 mutual connections, who I have no relation to whatsoever, but who's profile pictures show they're exactly my type.

Its kinda creepy how Linkedin was able to accurately identify the kind of women I'm attracted just from me clicking on about half a dozen profiles of random women. I didn't know it could do that.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)11:48:56 No.16556248
>>16555843
Conferences. AIChE has them all the time.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)11:52:29 No.16556250
>>16554718
>>16556224

“Systems” is a polite euphemism for weapons platforms. Whether that be missiles, tanks, fighter jets, whatever. They use words like “systems” or “platforms” and “target effectiveness” and a whole slew of other corpo buzzwords to dance around the fact that they’re trying to find ways to vaporize Muslims at +2% better efficiency.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)12:50:23 No.16556290
>>16556250
Yeah I'll never forget when I interviewed at one of the major defense contractors for an optics position and they phrased that the primary job responsibility was gathering data for "transient flash events." Took me a minute to realize that was the phrase they use to mean "explosions"
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:17:31 No.16556320
>>16556246
Is it working for you so far? Have you been able to get on dates?
>>16556248
I'm too poor and busy for conferences. There's no website I can go to? I know C&EN has some useful articles.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:18:07 No.16556322
>>16556320
Your employer is supposed to send you.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:19:11 No.16556324
How bad is it to job hop after only 6 months?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:20:44 No.16556327
>>16556324
You should at least complete a big project and get a promotion / new responsibilities / recommendations. If you can do that in 6 months, fine. I heard that in Big Tech the magical number is 1 to 2 years.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)13:20:50 No.16556328
>>16556324
It's understandable if the workplace is hostile/toxic/incompatible.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:12:20 No.16556372
>>16556324
6 months is bad unless it's just a really bad fit; if it's just okay 1-2 years for industry, 2-3 for academia
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)14:15:45 No.16556377
I have a math BA from a top 40. Which is better if I want to get into data science or software engineering?

MS in Computer Science from a 50th-60th ranked school

MS in Data Science from a #1, #2, #3 ranked school

MS in ECE at a ~30 ranked school (also opening up some EE/CE jobs)

Or is this market just fucked and I'm better off doing something else?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)15:13:28 No.16556426
>>16553841
when you've reached this point, you know you've made it
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)15:22:40 No.16556438
>>16556377
Data science is jeeted.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)15:43:34 No.16556459
>>16556377
>data science or software engineering
data engineering
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)16:30:53 No.16556541
>>16556377
>top 30 school is going to let some random math major into the MS program despite having completed non of the prerequisite undergrad coursework
good luck with that
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)18:07:10 No.16556643
>>16556541
I’ve already secured the admit so cope harder. I have to take some EE undergrad prereqs obviously.

>>16556459
This is my concern.
It seems like software and data is a bunch of Chinese and Indians hiring exclusively other Indians and Chinese, is this a correct assumption?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:26:17 No.16556692
Backpacking until I run out of money after finishing Master's later this year. After that? Who knows.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:47:09 No.16556710
>>16556692
>After that?
Chronic unemployment.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)20:16:14 No.16556755
173733101930
this story written by AI
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:11:33 No.16556882
>>16556755
So why the jeets if they have AI anyways?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:48:09 No.16556921
1736660869208659
>Offered a graduate level job with well above average starting salary despite botching the behavioral interview question
>No reference check (9 out of 10 companies does this in my country) but got contract sent out to me anyway
>Less than 10 days before I start and no email about day-1 onboarding
>Checked all my correspondence and jobportal
>No emails since last year, e-copy of contract disappeared from my jobportal
I'm not feeling too good about this bros...
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)03:00:07 No.16557054
Each night I go to sleep thinking of my failures, and everyday I wake up and think about them some more. Humiliation, diminishment, disrespect. These are the emotional north stars of my life.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)05:28:46 No.16557133
EverybodysGotAFuture
>>16557054
Everyone feels like that from time to time. Still: WAGMI. And that is *all* of us.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)09:24:32 No.16557389
>>16556438
Everything is hyperjeeted bro. There are Pajeets in Physics, Maffs, EE/CStrannery, etc. There are Pajeets in the sea, Pajeets, in the air, Pajeets in Antarctica, Pajeets in space. You live in a Pajeet universe. Just get used to it.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)09:57:37 No.16557420
>>16557054
Holy shit man you're literally me. I get anxiety attacks frquently for the past few years and probably insomnia too.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)09:58:52 No.16557422
I had planned to do research and publish a paper in my undergrad. Unfortunately, I didn't really get a chance and now its too late for one. Can I just do a thesis Masters instead? Do employers give more points to people who publish research paper in Masters? I want to eventually work a research role. Is a PhD a must?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)10:15:23 No.16557446
>>16557422
Research experience is not needed at all if you wanna work as a cashier at Target.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)10:19:43 No.16557453
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)11:11:44 No.16557515
>>16556643
>I have to take some EE undergrad prereqs obviously.
and by "some" you mean like 2.5 years worth
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)11:22:36 No.16557524
>>16557389
Maffs and physics are pretty safe. Jeets are too smart to fall for that trap.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)16:32:03 No.16557960
>>16557515
It's like a summer and a semester of prereq's and then 3 sem for the masters.

Physics I-II
Circuits
Signals and Systems
Logic Design
Computer Architecture

Already have Calc I-III, DiffEq, Lin, Prob, Math Stats, Programming, Algorithms, Software Eng from undergrad.

But on a more serious note: will my resume look like fucking junk with a BA in Math and an MS in Computer Engineering? Does it look bush league to have the masters in eng without the bachelors?
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)17:05:06 No.16557995
Does anyone here have experience with these German research institutes (Especially Max Planck society)? I am currently searching for a PhD position and there is a pretty new research group at a Max Planck institute with research that I find really interesting. I am considering to apply there. But I have heard that these institutions can be brutal and tyrannical even for academia standards. Do you think it's safer to apply to "normal" universities if I don't want to become suicidal or is my fear baseless? (I am from German myself if that matters)
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)20:23:22 No.16558176
>>16557995
What do you mean by brutal? Usually they pay better than university PhD who mostly only pay 50% TvöD and don't require to participate in teaching.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)23:14:12 No.16558312
>>16557422
>I had planned to publish a paper in my undergrad
this is the third undergrad i've heard this from in the last year. learn how to walk before you start planning to run a marathon
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)03:36:19 No.16558489
I'm doing my master's in aerospace eng, I'm thinking of specialising in fluid dynamics, how fucked am I from 1 to 10?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)04:43:18 No.16558549
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)10:35:07 No.16558800
>>16558312
It's practically a prerequisite to get into a good grad school now in some fields. It's an arms race.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)11:54:01 No.16558875
Nearly thirty years old and never had an Asian girl friend... What kind of a sorry excuse for an engineer am I?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)12:31:48 No.16558916
>>16554372
Online phds in stem are a meme. Online phds in Education might be worth it because teachers
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)12:53:00 No.16558949
>>16557995
You need teaching experience to make it in academia.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:12:45 No.16558971
they just ended birthright citizenship to screw with my future unborn children
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:35:39 No.16558997
>>16558971
Pajeet detected.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:47:18 No.16559010
Starting my MS/PhD soon in Oregon (EE), is it possible to face racism (jeet here) ? I am extremely introverted and kinda sensitive to a lot of things (never had time to socialize and do stuff)
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:15:59 No.16559046
>>16559010
Oregon State?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:34:01 No.16559057
>>16559046
Yes, this spring
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)15:12:53 No.16559088
>>16558997
europeans born in america aren't allowed a passport either you paki
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)15:52:35 No.16559105
>>16559057
Well congrats from a fellow beaver

Corvallis is a small town, so you shouldn't have too many issues with being stuck in crowded environments. You will inevitably have to interact with a number of people to get by, but be friendly and they will respond in kind. You are a pajeet which is going to get you a small amount of ire due to the recent H1b debates (especially if you don't shower/deodorize frequently), but you can also be a based pajeet like my postgraduate TA Prashant. Oregon is a liberal state so you shouldn't have much of a problem with racism. Make sure your living space is good and do utilize the CSEE buildings, they're the nicest in the entire engineering department. You will do fine if you ask for help and act cordial to everyone you meet.

On weekends try to make some trips out of town, you might feel a little isolated after a while. Fortunately there's something notable to see or do in every cardinal direction.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:13:38 No.16559299
>>16558800
Doing some undergraduate research, showing that you can follow directions, work with equipment, contribute to the process, maybe present a poster or something, that'll already put you head and shoulders above 80% of grad school applicants who just sit in classes and do nothing else.

Trying to solo author a peer reviewed article in your third or fourth year of undergrad is fucking retarded. You're basically going out of your way to make a fool of yourself.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:49:26 No.16559322
>>16548371
You are a fucking retarded for even enertaining the idea of enlisting you need to commission asap dont play those enlisted games
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:30:39 No.16559700
>>16559299
They aren't solo authoring they are utilising their disgusting effective altruist networks to get involved with LLM interpretability research.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:50:44 No.16560100
>>16548371
>I have no idea why there are people with years of industry experience doing a PhD in the first place.
because they're tired of being bottom feeder test engineers that are as far away from science as a canary is from a coal mine. a PhD brings the canary to the coal mine
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:12:49 No.16560120
>>16559322
Enlisted is a better way to go if, and only if, you plan on doing a single tour and getting out. Junior officers spend their first tour not even doing their jobs, it’s spent just learning how to be an officer. The officers mess is going to treat you like the nobody you are and most of your time is holding the pocket of some E7. It doesn’t get good for zeros until the very end of your first tour and that’s by design to get you to sign another contract. The whole benefit of being an officer are the connections you make but that doesn’t start to happen till O3. Your pay and living quarters are better, sure, but joining the military and caring about pay is kinda dumb. Might as well get a regular corpo job at that point.

Enlisted on the other hand, you stop being “new” after a year and will have 4-12 other guys working for you, doing your actual job. You also have way less pressure put on you and get way more time off.

Once again, this is only if you do a single 4-5 year tour and get out. Once your on your second contract as an officer, it’s absolutely 1000x better than enlisted.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:57:21 No.16560151
cover
As a physicist who's gonna specialize in computational physics, mostly focused on statistics and machine-learning, what language should I learn if I want to be better at writing and understanding efficient code?
I already know Python and I was considering C or Rust,
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:18:55 No.16560177
>>16559105
Thanks anon, is it possible to gain internships in companies like Nvidia, intel, ARM in-gap of MS-PhD ?

(BTW Is dating completely over for me(6/10) as a jeet ? I am 5"10
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:51:19 No.16560227
>>16560151
C and assembly
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:53:23 No.16560231
>one year into my PhD
>realize it is basically an obsolete research direction
>supervisor does not want to drop it and pivot because he is emotionally and reputationally invested in it, not the mention the funding is directly tied to it

Has anyone been in such a situation. I basically have to do busy work for the rest of my PhD and have my name associated with something I do not believe in.

I already decided I am going to drop out but holy shit I never even imagined shit like this could happen.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:57:21 No.16560235
>>16560151
>As a physicist who's gonna specialize in computational physics, mostly focused on statistics and machine-learning
>physics
>computational physics
>machine learning

Run, fast and far away. That intersection is a minefield of projects that look plausible at first but are actually complete deadends.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:13:33 No.16560262
Electrical engineering is a trap.
They sell it to you "oh look how broad it is, everything uses electricity, there are so many career paths" but none of your experience is counted for any other path. You get pigeon holed into an EXTREMELY specific type of work and then you have horrible job prospects because you have to locate that same exact type of job or else you are considered the same as a Walmart stocker in terms of experience.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:15:04 No.16560264
>>16560227
I'm surprised you recommend assembly for my purposes. Why? And what resources would you recommend?
>>16560235
Please elaborate, I might need a word of advice on this. I like /g/ stuff, but am about to finish this Bsc, and I don't wanna start on something else.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:35:15 No.16560285
>>16560264
OK so basically there was a lot of hype about using machine learning to learn physics. That shit mostly does not work. Stay away from any such project.

There are also other more promising applications of machine learning for physical applications. Like using machine learning to cluster data from the LHC. That is much more reasonable. Or using machine learning to generate some candidate structures/solutions that you can then test and iterate on.

But honestly, my advice is, do pure machine learning. It's much more lucrative.
Or do pure classical computational physics and learn to code in CUDA on HPCs and then you can switch to being a CUDA/HPC guru after you graduate.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)15:35:34 No.16560362
I just got a job offer covering everything I need in terms of salary and location. I'd owe my company nearly $25k of I left for this because I haven't filled the time they ask for after paying for my MS. I'm also working with a recruiter who claims that they bristled against raising the relocation bonus to cover that, and it sounds like both of them intend on having me review and accept the offer via the recruiter.
Is it a bad move if I circumvent the recruiter to contact the hiring manager directly, and to ask them to cover the full amount? They've sent out the offer already, so it's not like they can do anything but say no, right? Would that piss the recruiter or company off?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:52:09 No.16560490
>office full of mostly decent people
>get assigned to team with the assholes
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:56:17 No.16560494
>the patent examiner job I applied for 2.5 years ago and never heard a peep about was just canceled due to the "executive order federal hiring freeze" and this is the only time they emailed me about it
DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMPPPPFFFF!!!!!
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:01:23 No.16560507
>high IQ enough to get a stem degree
>too dumb to do anything with it
It's over
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)19:04:37 No.16560593
>>16560362
>>16560362
The recruiter would get paid already no matter what. You aren’t really circumventing anything. Recruiters make money off a % of your salary bonuses like that don’t apply