>>16515114
i'm looking forward to cambrian explosion 2.0

>>16515114
Learn about the carbon cycle and the element that all living creatures are made out of (hint, it is carbon). Obviously increasing this substance in a form that is easily absorbed back into the carbon cycle (such as CO2) will have a beneficial effect on all carbon lifeforms. There's your answer.

>>16515114
life is bad so anything thats good for life is bad
deserts are the best, and lifeless deserts are the best of the best

>>16515293
Kek retard.

>>16515586
life evolved on land before it moved into the oceans

>>16515581
Yes, Ukrainian scientific Buteyko research means CO2 is vital to life don't just a wasted gas, maybe Human produced CO2 save life of the Earth.

This thread is full of retards.

>>16515114
great for plants

Really really bad for anything that relies on a balance of oxygen and co2 like most mammals and of course humans.

People get light headed and have shortness of breath when co2 levels reach 1500ppm and at 8000ppm it can cause unconsciousness.

>>16517110
>>16516361
Fuck off you stupid morons.

>>16517695
>People get light headed and have shortness of breath when co2 levels reach 1500ppm
No they don't. People who work in greenhouses are in a 1500ppm environment all day and they never complain about it.

You'd have a CO2 monitor in your house if you were really that concerned about CO2. You're in high CO2 environments regularly and you never notice a thing. NASA has the maximum safe atmospheric CO2 level for their spacecraft set at 7000ppm and those an environments they expect astronauts to do complicated work in.

>>16518647
Strawman. CO2 is good for plants and it doesn't matter what your doomer alarmist cult says.

>>16515114
Yes. To a degree.

>>16518639
If CO2 really affected people as much as the alarmists screech about then why do all the alarmists choose to live in cities with high CO2 levels instead of in rural areas where CO2 levels are always a lot lower?

>>16518647
the last thing will be:
>climate change is bad for most and mainly caused by man-made co2 but there is nothing we could have done with all these assholes around

>work with indoor climate
>labour inspection recommends CO2 levels to not get higher than 1000 ppm indoors
>around those levels people get tired and concentration is difficult
>2000 ppm is the legal limit
>mfw outdoor levels are over 400 ppm and rising
please keep that shit under 500 ppm

global warming is basically shit like "reading the bones" or tea leaves or some shit when you move your thermometers out from under a shade an on top of pavement to get your new record highs
>>16520143
see this is the real problem
CO2 and less oxygen impairs your ability to live, breathe, and think. This will make you literally retarded far before the earth bursts into flames
Biodiversity loss is also an enormous issue but that's mostly from reduced habitat which is mostly deforestation in third world and more urban development in the first world. Ocean acidity is something else that might be dangerous but being totally genuine, while global warming is a fucking spook there's a huge list of reasons to reduce smog and also monocrops, pavement sprawl, more

>>16515114
ClO2 is pretty good for you if you have covid

>>16519751
Because they don't actually care, and only signal that they do, to appear virtuous.

>>16520594
Tinfoil hat tier conspiracy theory

>>16519751
>why do all the alarmists choose to live in cities with high CO2 levels instead of in rural areas where CO2 levels are always a lot lower?
wait what
what data shows that CO2 levels are higher in cities? i don't think i've seen that claim before.

>>16521215
Its weird how you have no idea what your local CO2 situation is like even though you claim that you're concerned about the effect CO2 are having on you.
You should really get a CO2 meter and use it to find a place to live that has reliably low CO2 levels.

>>16515114
Good for plant respiration, sure, but bad for water acidity.

>>16522465
>You should see if the meter test for deadly ClO2 or chlorine dioxide.
It is so deadly that they use it in Bolivia to kill the covid virus amongst other deadly virus and bacteria

>>16522465
i found some claims that co2 is higher next to busy roads but even there the difference is much smaller than outdoors vs. an inhabited structure
i have a co2 meter i've used at my house (suburbs) and my parents' house (rural) and when i've measured outdoor co2 (not often) the difference has been less than 10 ppm, while adding an extra person to an indoor environment can cause it to go up by like 100+
if you have better data you should share it

If instead of having yards people were encouraged to plant fruit and nut trees, much of that CO2 could be recaptured and there would be abundant food.

>>16522866
Yards are basically a retarded invention of the petrochemical industry to sell yard treatment chemicals to boomers. Completely nonproductive use of land.

>>16522868
That and there are multiple landscaping techniques that can be used to bank rainwater in order to turn wasteland into forest land. Microponds and mixed forest pasture terrain optimal, microponds also eliminate wildfire and drought risk.

>>16522869
Essentially the goal is to turn the terrain into a water and carbon sponge.

>>16522866
food is already so abundant that we're able to convert vast quantities of it into ethanol for fuel and send even more of it to africa to breed billions of new africans.

>>16522868
>>16522869
Lawns can be carbon negative if you use natural fertilizers and mow your lawn with a reel mower instead of burning fuel. Gardens are all around better.

>>16515114
nature doesn't give a shit what happens. Socialists just use climate change and environmentalism as excuses to control other people.
If we pretend climate change killed off humans alongside 99% of all species, it'd take under 10 million years for all today's ecological niches to be refilled by newly evolved critters. The net affect of such a exaggerated climate change would be nil. Socialism/leftism is an ontologically evil religion of envy which deifies the state, brought about by spiteful mutants bred by dysgenic breeding practices sustained by complex civilization. It is satanism.

>>16517688
This boomer shit is so old, ambient CO2 is 422ppm now

>AI says
garbage

>>16523951
They figured out

Is just replacing me for the nearest minor so the context looks the same and they can be pedos

>>16523946
And because of that every plant on the planet currently grows 30% faster than it did back then. They're also healthier plants as well as being larger

>>16523897
The entire surface of the planet is and always has been "carbon negative".
Thats why the atmosphere has gone from being over 100000ppm CO2 to less than 500ppm over the past billion years. Life evolved to live in much, much higher atmospheric CO2 conditions than what is currently available

>>16526637
i love this comic

>>16515114
if the co2-concentration would be the only rate-determining factor for photosynthesis it would enhance photosynthesis output.
but thats not the case, there are so many complex involvements here.
no water, for example.

and photosynthesis doesnt say anything about biodiversity.

>>16527587
more plants means more food, more food means more biodiversity, it's really not that complicated, redditor

>>16527588
sorry, I dont speak /pol/tard.

>>16527594
screeching about co2 is a /pol/nigger topic, you can stop projecting now

>>16515114
You use light theme? What the fuck dude? Is something wrong with you?

>>16527566
lol, its funny how the self styled "environmentalists" have been convinced to hate the environment and campaign for nature to be destroyed via CO2 starvation.
it reminds me of how feminists got tricked into demanding that women get jobs and pay taxes

>>16527595
the n word is racist

>>16528819
>blacks: we have our own separate economy protected from competition with whites
>lets complain about that and campaign against it
segregation was more beneficial to blacks that it ever was for whites

>>16515114
If CO2 wasn't good for nature then farmers wouldn't use CO2 in their greenhouses

>>16522857
I’ve installed and set up measured co2 sensors for years. They are used for air quality to measure into buildings . Base outside Co2 has been around 410-420 ppm and that number hasn’t changed ever since I’ve been around . highest I ever saw was in middle of city one time and base was 640 ppm. But it returned to normal around 400ppm .

Technically yes, CO2 is good for the carbon cycle and hence biodiversity and the amount of sustainable biomass.

But as we dig up more fossil fuels and release previously dormant carbon to the atmosphere, the planet heats up which is way worse for biodiversity than any benefits the additional CO2 could offer.

Source: pulled it out of my ass

>>16523350
Food is abundant but relies on vulnerable and centralized corporate petrochemical and corporate ag systems that could fail easily and rely on nonrenewable resources.

Ogallala is a glaring example. Its been depleted by 10% since 1950 and its a water source for a significant amount of the planet. I do have a simple solution for recharging it, which involves digging an underground aqueduct under minnesota to recharge it from the great lakes watershed.

mods refused to ban retards and now /sci/ looks like a mix of /x/ and /pol/ LMAO

>>16526637
so all those climate scientists kinda forgot co2 is le plant food? fucking morons lmao. How are they so stupid? holy kek. We should write a paper about it. It will expose them lol

>>16527598
Climate cultists ruined /sci/

>>16534111
retard take, take your meds and get vaxxed.

>>16533534
Greenhouses commonly keep their atmospheres at 1500-2000ppm CO2, that means our current Earth atmosphere has too little CO2, not too much,

>>16535278
If our atmosphere had those higher CO2 amounts then all farmland would be. much much more productive than it is right now and less total acreage would need to be farmed, that would leave much more room for natural habitats and wilderness than we currently have today.

>>16515114
If CO2 concentration reached Cambrian levels, the air would be unbreathable to humans.

>>16536976
It would be just fine, NASA has the maximum save level of atmospheric CO2 on ISS set at over 5000ppm and they keep their astronauts up there for half a year or more at a time and expect them to do hours and hours of continuous mentally and physically strenuous labor every day, often putting their lives at risk. if CO2 was bad for you they'd have killed off a lot of astronauts by now.

In the long term it could lead to more biodiversity, but it would take a long time for everything to catch up to the different environment, so in the short term (next few thousand years) it would kill a bunch of shit and lower biodiversity.

>>16538023
genetic engineering

>>16520138
no it's "we need to take up all the oil and coal from the ground and put it back in the carbon cycle"

>>16533795
if it heats up its okay since then plants can live in antarctica

>>16533788
it gets turned to oxygen

>>16538436
>>16538435
>>16538434
>>16538432
Retard.

CO2 is what plants crave.

>>16520138
Theres no such thing as "man-made co2"
The carbon and oxygen on this planet was all here long before life evolved.

>>16520594
>park next to the thing and leave your exhaust on
The CO2 levels are really going up fast!

>>16527598
reddit cuck.

wildfires occur because of climate change. There is no other possible explanation.

>>16541344
>>16541076
>>16541073
>>16541033
>>16538946
Retard.

>>16537815
No. That isn't how it works. It is more complex than that.

>>16543013
incorrect

>>16523350
Ethanol corn is not the same as consumable corn. It can't fall under the definition of food.

Chatbots aggregate data from reddit why would you ever listen to it about any complex or contentious topic?

>>16533534
One of the ideas to remove CO2 from the atmosphere is to put it back where it came from. If you could sequester the CO2 somehow and put into greenhouses to grow plants or just yeet it underground, you would solve climate change.

>>16547212
Are you high? There is no inedible corn.

>>16547245
Lol no. You must have failed high school if you can't even grasp the concept of scale. What's more, you must have failed physics, chemistry, and biology since you don't understand conservation of mass or the carbon cycle.

>>16520594
>>16542891
Why would those stations report hotter temperatures each year instead of reporting the same temperature each year?

>>16527598
Where do climate change debates lead?
>And that's why we need government intervention.
It is inherently political.

>>16547290
Lie.

>>16547337
Then there's no reason whatsoever that the placement would change the data, right?

>>16547290
if my histogram is showing data from the 80s but the measurements are taken from
>different tools
>on different sites
it's 200% fraud

>>16547290
They must or their career is over. Simple as.

>>16520594
Its literally in the same spot anon.
Are you talking about the shadow from the palm tree?
Have you never watched a shadow move with the time of day?

>>16548338
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

>>16553342
So then the placement doesn't matter at all, right?

>>16515114
It will lead to more biodiversity in the long term, but in the short term climate change will destroy ecosystems and kill all the species that cannot cope with the sudden changes.

>>16515114
Atmospheric carbon was thoroughly solved with the advent of photosynthesis. Plants love that shit. Anyone that tells you CO2 is a problem is retarded.

>>16515114
Go live in a greenhouse when they pump it with co2, report back.

>>16517110
This is one of Jordan Peterson's arguments about the muh fake climate change.

Damn I'm starting to think cutting down all the trees and growing monoculture crops everywhere that destroy the soil is a bad idea

>>16553823
Fucking moron, why do you repeat shit you took on faith? They don't make any fucking sense.

>>16547281
the greenhouse idea is dumb but putting it underground is not. that's exactly where it came from in the first place. let me guess, your rebuttal is that coal and oil is fake or magically replenishes itself

>>16555017
>that's exactly where it came from in the first place
no, it came from the atmosphere to begin with, it ended up underground only via photosynthesis, thats why returning it to the atmosphere is good, it restores nature to the conditions from which it evolved

>>16547281
>conservation of mass
not applicable in the case of photosynthesis since the solar energy input thats converted to mass in the process is from an external source

Renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America means that any bans on oil exploration in the Gulf of Mexico are now meaningless. This in turn means more delicious, nutritious CO2 for all the hungry plants in the world. Its won't be trapped and greedily hoarded away under the sea anymore, it will be freed back to the atmosphere where it rightfully belongs.

>>16517688
>>16524823
Plants are getting fat

>>16556904
Bruh, fr?

>>16555017
What you want is biochar. The scale still doesn't work out.