Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:32:25 | 7 comments
I want to get a new camera. I've been using an EOS 60D since 2012 and have become frustrated with the autofocus seeming to become worse with time resulting in maybe 1/50 pictures being in focus. The small screen size also makes it difficult to tell if a photo I've just taken is properly focused, especially if I'm shooting in low light and brightening it when post processing. The autofocus simply doesn't work in live view mode, taking up to 10 seconds attempting to focus through different focal lengths before displaying red squares. This makes it difficult to frame photos well if I can't use the viewfinder for whatever reason.
Around a year ago I briefly tried out a newer camera - R7, I think - and was amazed and how much better it felt compared to my 60D, hence the desire to consume.
>Budget
Around $3000 NZD, however I would prefer to get a better body and put money into lenses later.
>Sensor
I've only ever shot on APS-C, so I don't have a preference.
>Use case
I primarily take photos while traveling either overseas or domestically. Usually this results in street photography, landscapes or muh architectural abstract with occasional subjects. I don't shoot studio style posed photography or sports.
>Currrent lenses
Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3
Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5
>Other information
I'm going to Thailand in about 3 weeks and can locally purchase whatever I decide on tax free.
I've posted this as it's own thread to try and get well rounded opinions. Please help me.
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Around a year ago I briefly tried out a newer camera - R7, I think - and was amazed and how much better it felt compared to my 60D, hence the desire to consume.
>Budget
Around $3000 NZD, however I would prefer to get a better body and put money into lenses later.
>Sensor
I've only ever shot on APS-C, so I don't have a preference.
>Use case
I primarily take photos while traveling either overseas or domestically. Usually this results in street photography, landscapes or muh architectural abstract with occasional subjects. I don't shoot studio style posed photography or sports.
>Currrent lenses
Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3
Canon 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5
>Other information
I'm going to Thailand in about 3 weeks and can locally purchase whatever I decide on tax free.
I've posted this as it's own thread to try and get well rounded opinions. Please help me.
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| Equipment Make | Canon |
| Camera Model | Canon EOS 60D |
| Camera Software | Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 11.3 (Windows) |
| Maximum Lens Aperture | f/4.2 |
| Image-Specific Properties: | |
| Horizontal Resolution | 240 dpi |
| Vertical Resolution | 240 dpi |
| Image Created | 2023:11:27 12:28:12 |
| Exposure Time | 1/80 sec |
| F-Number | f/5.6 |
| Exposure Program | Manual |
| ISO Speed Rating | 2500 |
| Lens Aperture | f/5.6 |
| Exposure Bias | 0 EV |
| Metering Mode | Center Weighted Average |
| Flash | No Flash, Compulsory |
| Focal Length | 33.00 mm |
| Color Space Information | sRGB |
| Rendering | Normal |
| Exposure Mode | Manual |
| White Balance | Auto |
| Scene Capture Type | Standard |
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)19:43:28 No.4400491
>>4400489
Your budget is the largest constraint.
If you stick to recent Casnoykon bodies, you'll be fine. They all have their pros and cons. Early mirrorless cameras suck, so go for the most recent you can afford. If the features you need are outside of your price range, buy an old dslr flagship, or pony up for the camera you need.
Your budget is the largest constraint.
If you stick to recent Casnoykon bodies, you'll be fine. They all have their pros and cons. Early mirrorless cameras suck, so go for the most recent you can afford. If the features you need are outside of your price range, buy an old dslr flagship, or pony up for the camera you need.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)21:38:44 No.4400511
>>4400489
a7c (updated weather sealing and color science over the a7iii)
tamron 28-200
simple as.
you MAY be able to find an a7cii on sale for <$1700 (USD), it's a lot more pleasant to use if the lens lacks an aperture ring
later you can get the 16-35 f4 pz which is as sharp as the GM lenses across the entire zoom and aperture range
a7c (updated weather sealing and color science over the a7iii)
tamron 28-200
simple as.
you MAY be able to find an a7cii on sale for <$1700 (USD), it's a lot more pleasant to use if the lens lacks an aperture ring
later you can get the 16-35 f4 pz which is as sharp as the GM lenses across the entire zoom and aperture range
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)22:24:33 No.4400513
>>4400491
Are you saying my budget specifically, or in general budget is a big constraint for anyone? I've identified the R6 II or A7 IV as being roughly in budget.
>>4400511
>a7c
>go for the most recent you can afford
There are a couple of A7 IV bodies available on NZ's equivalent to eBay, or about $3600 brand new.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/electronics-photography/digital-cameras/digital-slr/sony/listing/5119378456
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/electronics-photography/digital-cameras/digital-slr/sony/listing/5123631637
How would that compare to the A7C?
I should mention that I don't have an intuitive understanding of specs and how they apply to taking photos. I know what most things mean of course, just have difficulty visualizing how
Are you saying my budget specifically, or in general budget is a big constraint for anyone? I've identified the R6 II or A7 IV as being roughly in budget.
>>4400511
>a7c
>go for the most recent you can afford
There are a couple of A7 IV bodies available on NZ's equivalent to eBay, or about $3600 brand new.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp
How would that compare to the A7C?
I should mention that I don't have an intuitive understanding of specs and how they apply to taking photos. I know what most things mean of course, just have difficulty visualizing how
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)23:10:10 No.4400517
>>4400513
The a7c is actually as up to date on colors/AF/build quality as the a7iv, it's just a cheaper and less "professional" model, basically a slightly nerfed a7iv with the a7iii's sensor
>-fewer custom buttons, no AF point joystick, no front dial (meant to be used with aperture ring lenses), one less card slot, 9 less megapixels, worse viewfinder, no 10 bit video or slow motion 4k, worse internal video stabilization, slightly worse weather sealing than the a7iv
>+typically $700-ish cheaper, a bit smaller, slightly better battery life, 24mp is a hair better at retaining color fidelity at high ISO settings
Most of this doesn't really affect just taking a picture. The a7iv is a more premium camera intended for professionals and serious hobbyists. The a7c is enough for normal people. The a7cii is a slightly lower end a7iv in an a7c-style body released in preparation for replacing the a7iv with the a7v.
The canon version of an a7c is an R8. It's basically an R6II with a shittier battery, no stabilization at all, a worse viewfinder, and no ability to output raw video to an external device. Canon did not cripple 4k bit depth or framerates as badly so it's not as incompetent at professional videography as the a7c, but that is only of interest to serious videographers.
The nikon version of an a7c is the ZF. It's basically the Z6IIIs featureset with lower max framerates, the Z6II sensor, fewer custom buttons, and no grip or AF joystick.
The a7c is actually as up to date on colors/AF/build quality as the a7iv, it's just a cheaper and less "professional" model, basically a slightly nerfed a7iv with the a7iii's sensor
>-fewer custom buttons, no AF point joystick, no front dial (meant to be used with aperture ring lenses), one less card slot, 9 less megapixels, worse viewfinder, no 10 bit video or slow motion 4k, worse internal video stabilization, slightly worse weather sealing than the a7iv
>+typically $700-ish cheaper, a bit smaller, slightly better battery life, 24mp is a hair better at retaining color fidelity at high ISO settings
Most of this doesn't really affect just taking a picture. The a7iv is a more premium camera intended for professionals and serious hobbyists. The a7c is enough for normal people. The a7cii is a slightly lower end a7iv in an a7c-style body released in preparation for replacing the a7iv with the a7v.
The canon version of an a7c is an R8. It's basically an R6II with a shittier battery, no stabilization at all, a worse viewfinder, and no ability to output raw video to an external device. Canon did not cripple 4k bit depth or framerates as badly so it's not as incompetent at professional videography as the a7c, but that is only of interest to serious videographers.
The nikon version of an a7c is the ZF. It's basically the Z6IIIs featureset with lower max framerates, the Z6II sensor, fewer custom buttons, and no grip or AF joystick.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)01:12:08 No.4400526
>>4400517
I have the a7c. Its raw output is great but jpeg rendering is terrible when pixel peeping, the viewfinder is just usable, and the back screens colors are inaccurate. Very flawed budget camera but it delivers.
I have the a7c. Its raw output is great but jpeg rendering is terrible when pixel peeping, the viewfinder is just usable, and the back screens colors are inaccurate. Very flawed budget camera but it delivers.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)03:33:56 No.4400554
>>4400513
>I've identified the R6 II or A7 IV as being roughly in budget.
The budget you mentioned
But these cameras are ok.
>I've identified the R6 II or A7 IV as being roughly in budget.
The budget you mentioned
But these cameras are ok.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)01:34:54 No.4400747
>>4400489
get a used 1dx mkii and spend the rest on primes imo
get a used 1dx mkii and spend the rest on primes imo