cool

>>4397257
6/7$ for 36exp and 5$ for 24exp is my bet

>>4397274
$6 for 36exp would be decent, but at $5 I would buy huge packs of it if it's even halfway decent

>>4397257
>Comments on Redbook quoted Lucky Film’s representative saying that the intention was to offer the new film for around 40rmb (£4.40/$5.60)
if it sells for that much in the US that'd be pretty good

>>4397276
Maybe tariffs will skyrocket prices but in Europe and other regions it'll be feasible to see

From may 2024
>We are doing market research and evaluating the demand. the production line of colour films still exists and is ready to go into production in any minute
>Lucky Film produced three colour negative films – GBR 100, GBR 200 and GBR 400 – between 2003 and 2012
>Shao said no particular film had been mentioned, but he believed the most likely would be GBR 200, as it was the most popular of the films in the 2000s

>>4397257
BASED CHINKS

>drop price to below most basic bnw film
Pls I might actually start using my film cameras again

Countdown for 6$ Coror Prus: activated

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>>4397365
Chinese have L, not R

>>4397370
Rucky coror firm is what they have. And so will you very soon

>>4397370
Are you sure? IYO Sky always says shit like >Ryra and Bayree

>>4397257
Color film costs 10-20 eurobucks nowadays so this would be welcome.

>>4397376
not chinese retard

>>4397401
its the same thing you gay faggot

>>4397257
Its not exactly saving us from kodaks monopoly if it comes from a communist country that manipulates its currencies value, creates more toxic waste lakes than a european mining firm in michigan, and uses more slave labor than elon musk, now is it?

When china joins the "competition" they break free market principles harder than US govt crony-capitalist regulation and subsidies. What you actually get is "china is coming to kill you" because the only way a western company can compete with aggressive currency manipulation, slave labor, and a total lack of environmental protections, is to move to china after they save enough profits from replacing native born americans with h1bs that are happy to be oppressed only slightly less.

If they are somehow actually good this is awful news. Globalism and free trade only works if no one is evil because evil has an inherent advantage in any economy.

>>4397445
lol

>>4397257
>>4397365
please give me cheap film based china

>>4397445
Tl;Dr: a butthurt american getting a taste of their own medicine. About time you guys go down the drain, the world will be better when you stop spreading chaos and draining foreign economies for your own profit

>>4397445
china is not communist, they are as far from communist as you can get, they're so capitalistic that our own oligarchs are frothing at their mouths over how free the chinese market is

anyway im buying this shit by the crateload if it ever comes to fruition

>>4397455
>haha this is totally btfoing america
>*replaces america with literally america but worse*
>fuck america i hope white people go extinct
>white people: we just didnt want to exist on the same planet as radical islam. *israel aid*
>han chinese: we are NOT going to exist on the same planet as any muslims period. *ughyur genocide*
i bet this guy thinks russia will save him from america when it's just america #3 lmao

>>4397459
Take your meds and go back to /pol/ buddy

>>4397402
brazilians like you should not speak

>>4397455
This so called america you want to lose is mostly a bunch of people living under a regime and the china you think will win is rising to prominence by doing everything america did but worse. And the chinese people sure as fuck aren’t winning. They need suicide nets to keep them working.

>>4397483
No one here gives a fuck about any of you/them outside cheap color film

>>4397257
we will see. if the tariffs trump is proposing actually go through it might not actualy be that much cheaper than kodak. i actually like all of the lucky films if shot so i hope prices will be low.

I love how shameless their logo is

>>4397459
>Crackas and moslems go away
>Cheap color film
Thank you, my Han overlords

>>4397445
look at this CNN shill. enjoy your insane murder rates and homeless problems i get and cope : 0

>>4397574
Violent crime is down year over year and homelessness is a choice (so is taking chinese fentanyl). If you dont believe it, compare boise and spokane.

>>4397479
>>4397464
GMS, how is the transition going? do you pass well enough for your fellow saars to try to rape you?

wtf I love China now

>>4397577
cope

>>4397257
i have no regular use for film under ISO 400

>>4397823
so what you are saying is you are looking forward to their ISO 400 film they will be releasing in 2025 Q2?

>>4397824
Let us say yes then

>what the brits couldn't
Gotta say I love the look of phoenix 200 despite its obvious flaws, and I just bought 6 more rolls.
Sure it's not cheap but I'm not poor so

>>4397830
ECN-2 dev for more "normal" look when exposed at 125

>>4397830
Neither am I, but if they make an iso 200 color film and price it like colorplus/gold/c200 any other rebranded film made by kodak they solve nothing

Film costs mean nothing. All the money is in processing. Oh no, muh roll of film was $1.50 more!
Dev and scan: Even DIY is a fat investment.

Hope based trump just flat out bans chinese film

>>4397891
amerinigger detected
opinion discarded

>C-41 dev is 4 bucks with VAT
>E-6 is 7 bucks with VAT
>black and white (ilfolab fp 40) is 6 bucks with VAT
>C-41 dev + scan (2398x3390 jpg) is 16 bucks with VAT (1205x1795 and it's half that)
>E-6/BW dev + scan (2398x3390 jpg) is 18 bucks with VAT (1205x1795 and it's half that)
all of this in a big lab in a big city

meanwhile roll of kodak portrashit 400 is 23 to 28 ameribucks with VAT but without shipping (6-7 usd minimum)
the cheapest possible color film you can get is colorplus at 10 bucks (it's discounted now from 11 usd for some reason)

so no
your economy is just full of nigger who believe they are entitled to 50 bucks an hour pressing two buttons on a machine in a cozy lab

>>4397899
>my country is poor so i can afford things better. You entitled non peasants think you deserve to own homes? *dies of common cold and alcoholism*
Lol. Anyways, film expenses are all processing and its not americas fault the EU heavily taxes american goods so you dont even get our cars.

>>4397891
I got everything for DIY scan from china at a reasonable price so no :)

>>4397899
That's rough but it's hardly better here, I live in a big us city and buying direct film from stores it's 12-15 for stuff like gold and Fuji but nearly 20 for cinestill or portra. Cheapest color is pro image 100 but you have to buy it in 5 packs for the discount to 9.99 a roll. cheapest color dev I've found is 8 dollars and they only do c41, I would have to mail or go to another town for e-6. My cheap dev and scan place is 14 bucks a roll. It's not like we're getting steep discounts here, though I guess having to deal with shipping is an added level of suck

>>4397902
I won't get into the murrican economy debate but film developing is cheaper than film itself everywhere, even the US. C41 is cheaper to develop but more expensive to buy a roll because dev is made with an automatic machine. BW is cheaper per roll but developing is made by hand and thus they charge almost twice for developing.
If the chinks deliver it's going to shake the market that's for sure, and if tariffs destroy the price advantage we're going to see some seething as well

>>4397257
Will the chinese one day recreate kodachrome?

>>4397887
>if they make an iso 200 color film and price it like colorplus/gold/c200 any other rebranded film made by kodak they solve nothing
If they make a svemashit tier film and price it at $2 a roll what has been solved? I'll just keep buying kodak, or expired fuji, or phoenix. Phoenix because, despite its technical flaws, it looks nice.
The lucky b&w films are worse than foma, not sure why everybody is acting like their color film won't be shit.

>>4397988
>REEEEEEEEE
They specifically made the kodak film you bought until 2007. Even expired luckycolor from the days is good film. Chances are they'll deliver and you'll seethe and cope even harder than now, but we'll find out before summer

>>4397899
I live in Asia and it's $USD6 for a roll of cinema repack in 35mm and another 6 bucks for develop and Noritsu scan. Life is good.

>>4397988
Expired 400H is already getting too fucked up to use normally even fridge stored I found.

>>4397899
>admitting to being a subhuman
why do 3rd worlders constantly tell on themselves and seethe over not being American? every board needs flags

>>4397988
The SHD 100 pro is some good shit. The ISO 400 it's a bit meh

>>4398029
>3rd world
>Slav land European citizen with 0 mudslimes, 0 niggers, minimal amount of jews and very little gypsies
anyways
how is getting shot by fentanyl fueled monkeys going José?

I would rather shoot digital with a phone for the rest of my life than live near you melting pot mongrels

>>4398013
>They specifically made the kodak film you bought until 2007
Did they? AFAIK the kodak sold here was always made here, once the investment in the coating line is made it's cheaper to use it than import. Could be wrong though.
>In 2003, Eastman Kodak and China Lucky Film signed a 20-year co-operation agreement. In the agreement, contributed US$45 million in cash and provided an emulsion making line for color products for a 20 per cent stake in Lucky Film. Kodak also provided US$54.5 million and technical support to assist Lucky in upgrading its existing triacetate film base production and coating lines.[1]
>In 2007, Kodak retracted from the deal, citing the growth of digital cameras in the Chinese market, having hoped that market would remain with film in the short term.[2]
lmao western companies are such inveterate cucks. "let's give all our technology and money to china, then they will definitely be our friends after that and totally won't use that against us"

>>4398082
Yup, as you have seen there are two things we can be certain of:
>They have the equipment and knowledge to manufacture film to the quality standards of Kodak
>You guys got voluntarily cucked

>>4398015
Source on that weet respool of cine stock?

Could this be related to what's coming?

>>4399320
qrd?
seems like the easiest way to CRUSH resellers would be to lower their damn prices

>>4399326
qrd is due to bankruptcy kodak is 2 companies.
Kodak A manufactures film and can sell movie film to anyone making movies but can only sell stills film to kodak B
Kodak B doesn't produce fill but has exclusive rights to sell kodak stills film
Cinestill started buying kodak movie film and selling that
cinestill became super popular because people like the cine look, because halation aside, they look like movie stills. other companies have now tried to buy and repackage kodak movie film
cinestill tried to copyright 800t which makes no sense since its a film speed and white balance and tried to make deals with kodak to make it easier for them to sell cinestill and harder for the upstarts to sell kodak movie film
Kodak B apparently just learned what the fuck is going on for some reason, even though cinestill has been a thing for a while, so Kodak A will no longer sell movie film unless you can prove you are actually making a movie (ie you need to provide director, production house, ect)
what it seems like is happening is Kodak B is basically going to kill all the noncinestill resellers, idk what will happen to cinestill and kodak b will sell kodak movie film for stills at a marked up rate compared to what we are paying now

>>4399327
well shit that sucks, you mean I'm gonna have to pay cineshit prices for my xx now?

>>4399327
At this point they're acting as a monopolistic corporation on a product that doesn't have a solid demand. If they don't liberate the licenses for C41 materials/production and allow other manufacturers to get into the market they'll end up killing themselves financially. People will either shoot black and white exclusively or turn to digital cameras yet again. If they don't the only hope is that the chinese succeed in this project and allow their process to be replicated under licenses. Foma, Ferrania and ORWO would most likely jump in and develop their own color films and maybe ilford would continue the venture of phoenix with better prices

>>4399331
>At this point they're acting as a monopolistic corporation
Does fuji not produce its own c-41 film?
Also its literally the government doing this
>Kodak goes bankrupt in 2012
>bong government says kodak needs to fund their uk pension plan
>Kodak is forced into an agreement where the british pension fund got exclusive rights to kodak stills film forever
>british kodak pension fund creates Kodak Alaris as the company that owns all kodak stills film stock rights forever
>british government then sells Kodak Alaris to some LA based hedge fund in 2024
I guess that is why there is finally some crackdown. the british pension shit probably didn't care as much about cinestill I guess.
Kodak Eastman, the company making the film and selling the cinema film would love to be able to sell you movie film, but they legally cannot and their recent change is due to being stuck in a legally binding contract the british government forced them into

>>4399331
>licenses for C41
The what now? There can't still be patents on this shit it's like 50 year old technology. There's not going to be many companies entering the coating business because 1. coating equipment is obscenely expensive and 2. it's a long obsolete product with less demand than capacity already. I think harman somehow figured out how to coat color on b&w equipment one layer at a time, rather than all layers at once like normal color. Pretty cool desu I hope they improve the process further.

The kodak/alaris split was a failed attempt at a texas two-step i.e. the film business was supposed to go out of business and take all the debts from both companies with it, but somehow they managed to stay solvent.

>>4399337
>The kodak/alaris split was a failed attempt at a texas two-step i.e. the film business was supposed to go out of business and take all the debts from both companies with it, but somehow they managed to stay solvent.
nah. Kodak went bankrupt and couldn't fund their pension program in the UK so they sold off the still film rights to the pension program instead of paying off the debt and the pension program ran it until last year when they sold it to a hedge fund. If anything the idea was for Eastman Kodak to go under and the pension fund to sell off Alaris as an IP like how most US gun companies who aren't ruger are just IPs other gun companies bought.

>>4399337
Ilford already had a C41 monochromatic film, they used that as a base for phoenix and just changed the emulsions. The patents are not on the c41 process but some ingredients that preclude you from creating the emulsion. The recipe if you will

>>4399336
>Does fuji not produce its own c-41 film?
people here have been saying that fuji is just rebranding kodak stock as its film but i'm suspicious of that since its cheaper than kodak in all my local stores

>>4399398
Kodak has a higher markup because MONEY, not because it actually costs that much.

>>4399398
Depends on the market, here its between 1-2$ more expensive per roll

>>4397257
>Kodak's
Kodak Alaris is the one to blame for prices. They dont make anything, just resell. And if Eastman Kodak dies-it's over for film, forever

>>4399467
Even more reason to root for the chinks in this venture. Film's survival depends on a healthy market with more than one provider

>>4399398
The cheap Fuji 200 and 400 is definitely made by Kodak now. Fuji has claimed on various occasions to still be producing film, to be restarting their film production, to be planning to restart their film production, and so on. But if they are still making film it is clearly low volume because it is always out of stock or only available in Japan. They definitely still make instax which probably means they still have all the equipment and know how that they could if they wanted.

>>4399473
Yea, but alaris is owned by vulture capital. They are gonna milk it dry regardless

>>4399793
If you have an alternative to kodak film that sells for half the price Alaris will have to face the decision of lowering prices or sinking both branches of kodak.

>>4399793
>>4399797
I can't imagine venture capital jews would care about destroying both companies. best case scenario the way those capital companies work is the guy who owns has some ROI goal and gets a massive fucking bonus for each 0.25 percent or whatever over his target for the quarter. so at best these hedge funds really prioritize quarter to quarter growth above anything else
worst case, a lot of these hedge funds make more money bankrupting a company than they do keeping it alive. see them fucking and killing toys 'r' us, red lobster, A&P, party city, kmart, sports authority, ect.
its probably why alaris only started giving a shit about cinestill after the venture jews bought alaris.

>>4399590
>They definitely still make instax which probably means they still have all the equipment and know how that they could if they wanted.
isn't instax the highest grossing photography product currently?

A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS

>>4399819
Would

>>4399327
I fucking hate Cinestill, they're so fucking greedy they had an active part in the downfall of film and the dramatic rise in price of the last (almost) 10 years

>>4399835
its a mix. they are obviously fucking faggots with trademarking 800t and then copyright trolling people over its use and trying to fuck other people out of their scam, but they did bring kodak cinestill to the stills market

>>4399813
Instax alone does more in revenue than all of Nikon's camera sfuff