>>4395731
sage

>>4395732
correct! shooting film knowing you are only going to scan and digitally manipulate it is mental illness

>>4395733
there are people out there that send their rolls to a lab to dev and scan

>>4395731
>>4395733
Yeah, well...shooting film, developing and archiving it as a physical format is part of the fun. Digital scanning to share and print is more convenient than using an enlarger. But maybe I've been wrong all these years and it took your thread to make me see it. You've really changed me. It's beautiful. I think we gotta hug.

>>4395731
you get to use a film camera
you don't have to learn grading
you can post poor IQ and no one cares

Is this?..

>>4395790
rage/flamebaiting ?

>>4395731
There's none. There's no way. Any other questions?

>>4395779
stop making process more important than result

>>4395790
namefag spam

>>4395731
>What's the point of shooting film?
Higher resolution and broader tonal range

>>4395731

It can’t be explained in words, you just have to try it. It’s an entirely different form of photography which makes you take totally different photos to what you will on digital. It also entirely changes the process of taking photos and what you experience before during and after.
Ultimately, I don’t think the rest of the world benefits but the person taking the photos gets a massively different experience.

>>4395866
Not at all, only people who cant afford film and insist on shitty 70s cameras say this. A digital leica and a film leica are the same. 35mm is dirt fucking cheap and negatives have a ton of latitude just like raws.

>>4395880

Why the fuck would you buy a film camera the same as your digital camera?

>>4395884
Because you want to use the same lenses? Not so crazy. I have a D850 and an F4. I’ve shot a M5 and a M10 together. Why not?

>>4395828
What is the result of your life?

>>4395884
People did that originally, like EOS 1V and then EOS 1D

Because they were into film instead of larping as winogrand

>>4395880
>digital leica and a film leica are the same
lmoa

>>4395731
Film is easier to take serviceable photos with and harder to take controlled photos without wasting money with exposure bracketing or proper metering. For many, this makes it “pure” or whatever. Also, a film point and shoot will have better dof than any digital one except the Ricoh GRIII ($1k for a non 1” point and shoot; lmao)

Film is really for digital camera enthusiasts when you think about it. Who else would find enjoyment taking digital photos of photos?

>>4395935
This isnt really true

You can just put digital on auto ISO, daylight or tungsten wb, jpeg, same as accepting color shifts and super grainy shadows with poorly exposed film. Buying presets and shooting raw is the same as buying film and paying the lab.

>>4395941

I assume he means photographing people.
Film retouches skin by itself without you having to do anything.
Digital cameras make people look ugly unless retouched.

>>4395809
No that would be the OP with such an inflammatory question.

>>4395944
Not true either. Modern EF/F lenses from canon/nikon/zeiss went on film SLRs and showed every pore on good slides.

Just stick to 16-20mp cameras, maybe less for that cant expose film right and using fuji 400 look, and use dogshit lenses, there, no more pores.

You don't

>>4395828
>>4395888
Holy fuck hahahahahaha

>>4395888
same as yours, since we're both post here :)

>>4395828
>Complete faggot, results-driven-only syndrome.
Nig nog, it's the steps and processes of life that add value to the end result; hard work pays off. The result IS the sum of all the processes. That's also completely ignoring the part where you can also just have fun doing the thing, but I guess your zoomer ADHD mind can't comprehend not having instant results NAO

>>4395978
Your life is useless. The process is the only reason why you live

>>4395987
Useless to who, bugman? Can you not comprehend individualism?

>>4395984
This is a disgustingly asian way of looking at things. Anything but individualism will to power. No internally set goals allowed.

>>4396041
>people like the process of shooting film
>YOU'RE SUBMITTING TO POWER
Wow, what a tangent. You're actually retarded
>No internally set goals allowed
Some people want to have fun but you're obviously too autistic to comprehend that

>>4395984
>>4395987
complete retards.

>>4396150
How very articulate. Go stand in the corner lil guy

>>4396152
go masturbate over your "process" lil guy

>>4396072
Didnt say submit to power
Did say you lack power and coast on the experience instead of making your dreams real and clearly define how worthwhile and valuable things are in terms of what others think

>>4395731
All the cameras that are actually good run on film. You can get pretty colors and pretty pictures without having to think about battery charging and computers and contract subscription agreements with indian giver tech companies that hate me. Digital cameras mostly sucked but they were worth it because each frame was free and you could use them with computers which were cool. But computers and phones and TV's all turned into unfixable overpriced disposable house arrest ankle monitors, so now there's no reason to use a digital camera anymore.

>>4396201
Literally none of this is true. Stop repeating hyperbole from pedophiles like richard stallman.

>>4396209
>oh no if im tech illiterate microsoft can know how many times i opened notepad computers are unusable!
I removed all telemetry and junk from w10 iot ltsc in 20 minutes and debloating mac os is basically instant if you have the IQ to install arch losernix.

But thats not good enough for a pedophile who fully expects the government to put a 5g radio in his CPU so they can catch him downloading CP in real time i guess, better do all your CSAM on film and home dev
Us non pedophiles and non schizophrenics will be sticking with fuji+mac.

>>4396152
lil guy.

>>4396213
>posts retarded tech opinions on /p/ because is laughed off of /g/
faggot

>>4395731
the point of shooting film is to make digifags seethe

>>4396217
/g/ is literally chock full of pedophiles and even a few actual animal rapists, and their patron saint is a close friend of epstein who vocally defended legalizing bestiality. No one else has any reason to fear individual targeting and basic telemetry.

>>4395731
You open the film door and look at the little pictures, obviously.

>>4396246
>vocally defended legalizing bestiality
You eat pork you freak. You kill the pig because you want ham. Might as well be a rapist then.

>>4395731
Just yank out the tab and your frames will develop in the ambient light in 5-10 minutes. Expensive film takes shorter time to develop but you can "hack" cheap film with fluorescent light and shave off a minute or so.

>>4396206
>Modern technology has forced internet and subscriptions on the user, depriving him of actual ownership and turning cool tech into a slavery tool
>You're a pedophile
Well that was a hell of a strawman/tangent

>>4395731
>What's the point of shooting film?
unironically looks better. its like how modern films all look like ass because they are shot on digital where as the fight scenes from power rangers in the 90s look great because film. the only advantage of digital is that it is convenient

>>4395828
Literally one of the keys to happiness my guy.

>>4395733
that's literally the only reason I shoot film
it's an intermediate between the funky old camera I want to use and the digital photo I want to end up with

>>4397366
>>Modern technology has forced internet and subscriptions on the user
I use my camera without internet. I watch movies without internet. I play games without internet. My car runs without internet. My watch has no networking and charges in the sun. I can buy things in cash. When does this slavery scenario happen?
>depriving him of actual ownership
The only thing I can find that is close is intel ME technology existing, but the way it works is real, physical government agents need to target me specifically. Since I don't deal drugs, make or consume child porn, or divulge state secrets intel ME and "proprietary software" are as scary to me as the notion that the police can just break my windows or bust down my door.
>and turning cool tech into a slavery tool
So seriously, when does this fucking happen? I can sideload apps on my iphone, my mac does not phone home, I removed apple intelligence, I removed siri, and none of these changes have been reverted. On my W10 IOT LTSC machine I can update windows with impunity and none of my debloating/security changes get reverted. I am in full control of every piece of technology I own.

Are you just too dumb to use computers?

Or are you a pedophile so basic "if you individually are targeted by the police, they can find all the CP on your computer" is the sole fact that scares you to death? Because the single biggest opponent of proprietary software and possible government backdoors on earth, and the founder of the whole movement that rails against them, is a jewish pedophile who got kicked out of MIT for claiming epstein did nothing wrong and previously made repeated comments supporting the legalization of bestiality and child sexual abuse - Richard M. Stallman.

>>4398900
Oh that's why fuji exists and their cameras all suck, film cameras suck too. It's like the film and the scanning rig rolled into one!

>>4397637
retard-tier take

>>4398908
why?

>>4395828
>if you enjoy something but there's no "good end result" you're actually stupid
hope you've never watched tv or posted on an early 2000s era image board

>>4395927
You live in Amesbury, Massachusetts

>>4398905
Why fuji sucks? Im good with my XT-3

>>4398912
doing something without caring for the result is fucking retarded.

>>4398918
fuji sucks because everything they do is only about as good as an old autofocus filmslr like a film canon rebel or nikon f100 but they charge as much for everything as the newest snoy

and its still a soulless tv viewfinder camera with fake dials on top of electronic switches instead of a real springs and gears film camera with an infinite-resolution optical viewfinder. everyone buys the x100 for the ovf, nothing else, they dont care, they are just tired of looking at a little screen that washes out if you wear glasses and use it outdoors.

>>4398922
whats the best equivalent to the XT-3 (around 800-900$)

>>4398924
>$900 - used a7c price
>superior sensor
>superior lenses
>superior autofocus
>superior weather sealing
do fujislugs really have to ask this question

>>4398924
Contax AX

romance

>>4398924
Sony a6700.

>>4398919
Why would valuing the process imply you don't care about the result? The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Caring only about the result, however, is pretty retarded. At least when it comes to things you're doing for fun.
And this one's debatable, but I personally would say, for many things the process should more valuable to you than the result

>>4398948
Caring only about the result means wanting to streamline the process, autism-kun. Not cutting your leg off to take a picture because only the result matters.

Its the opposite of taking awful pictures and spending all day finger fucking fake mechanical dials.

>>4398949
I mean first of all >>4397637 referred to anything you do in general, beyond just photography.
But more to your point
>Its the opposite of taking awful pictures and spending all day finger fucking fake mechanical dials
What if you genuinely enjoy taking "aweful pictures" and "finger fucking fake mechanical dials" though?

>>4398949
If it's just about the result, why even bother with a camera at all? Why not just AI some photos instead?

>>4398951
Then people will laugh at you and call you gay. And you will say "that doesnt bother me, I AM gay". And they will laugh harder.

>>4398955
>why streamline the process of capturing reality when you can computer generate a drawing?
Because one of these things has one step
>buy a canon or a sony
And the other is CGI digital painting.

I printed this photo with an enlarger two years ago. It was great fun

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>>4398959
The end result is just pixels, pixels that you print, or pixels that you look at on a screen. Do you think the only way to make a combination of pixels that "captures reality" by actually taking it? It shouldn't matter where the pixels come from.
>Because one of these things has one step
One is typing some things onto a computer, the other requires physical gear that you have to take with you to a location, take your images, and then you have to get those images off the camera. Seems like you don't actually care about streamlining the process.

>>4398928
im a beginner to photography and the XT3 was a gift
quit being an obnoxious retarded fuck for a bit

>>4398929
i already have a Canon AE-1

>>4398964
>bro everything is just atoms le nothing really matters, le most literal and reductionist everything
Take your opinion and fedora to the trash, thanks. There is a reason autism is called a disability instead of a gift.

>>4398958
Sure, I'll take that

>>4398917
Incorrect

>>4398985
Dear Anon,

My bad.
Sincerly,

Nigga

>>4398988
I forgive you anon. here is another view of the same subject. different filmstock and lens, heck even a different camera body.

>>4398948
>>4398951
>>4398955
>>4398979
sigh. the retards keep 'tarding. nothing to be done about it.

>>4395927
When they're not flickering due to the chinesium electronics, these fucks are busy with ruining your photos with ugly, green lens flares.

>>4395736
YOU CAN DO THAT

>>4398961
Extra based.