>>2800958
Put another knife thread in the catalogue bro

>>2800962
I will.

>>2800958
Esee 4, everything like yours, but not pointlessly oversized. You fail.

>>2801050
I'm with this dude. I own an esse 4 and it's my go to /out/ knife. And it tucks very well under a t shirt. My first problem with that extra inch is that it would "print" me as someone carrying a Rambo knife. Second I think the balance would be all wrong. The esse 4 is really well balanced for the tasks I want to use a knife for in the woods. I don't take an 8 inch kitchen knife because I don't need one.

>>2801051
>bushlarping in places so populated that your knife printing is a concern
I shiggy diggy

>>2801050
No chopping or prying ability, too small. Everything you do with that knife will be clumsy and painful except for things that you could do with any knife.

>>2801050
>>2801051
you wouldn't want to scare your bf with that thang

>>2801051
Your carry technique sucks. I can carry blades up to 8" without issues.

ESEE-4 and 6 are flat ground from less than 5mm stock and don't have anywhere near the lateral rigidity of the 5. I wouldn't consider them as primary survival blades, just not strong enough long term.

>>2800958
isn't this just a knockoff of the bushcraft knife?
>check specs
yeah it's literally just a knockoff

>>2801059
Pray tell me what the ESEE-5 is a knockoff of.

>>2801063
It's literally an overpriced larp knife with a hardness rating less than cheap axes now days.
It weighs more than it should while being able to do even less than BOB.

ESSE even has a break it you replace it policy.
Which is absurd because it means they know their knives are shit and easily broken.
Just admit it kid, you saw a big knife and your monkey brain thought ooga booga dat good.
The handle is flat out shit, if you've ever held any of the KABAR or BOB handles for their bushcraft oriented knives you would know this.
BOB's handle is far superior for any task.
It actually fits in a mans hand in such a way heavy duty task or finesse task are equally enjoyable.

The USMC K Bar is the best all around outdoor utility and combat knife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo

>>2801085
I wasn’t going to get shit on for saying it but that was almost verbatim my first thought too.

>>2801073
It's hardness is the ideal balance of toughness to edge retention just like a hatchet or a machete. This is the kind of heat treatment that all survival knives should have. Sharpening a knife isn't hard, toughness should never be sacrificed for edge retention.

It's weight is the result of a broad saber grind and 1/4" stock, giving it enough lateral rigidity to actually be useful for prying, which is kind of just a fantasy with most other survival knives. This is important because I rely heavily on a technique to process large diameter blowdown that is under tension by cutting a notch with my saw, and then flipping the chips out with my knife, but this requires strength. The weight also lends it surprising chopping ability for it's length, which is also important because my saws are slow and clumsy for certain types of cutting tasks, like gathering enough boughs to serve as roofing and bedding material in a reasonable time frame, and I also just expect my knife to be a standalone survival tool as well and not strictly dependent on a saw, so some degree of chopping weight is very desirable. The strength of the knife also makes it useable for escape, bending or hacking through metal barriers, which is what it was actually designed for. Another added bonus of the weight is it makes it much simpler to counterbalance my handgun. I carry a handgun on my right side, and then a knife and spare magazine on my left, but the left bundle has to weigh the same as the handgun otherwise I'll develop hip and back pain over time. This requires figuring out which pieces of gear I'm carrying are suitable for adding to the left to get the weight right. The ESEE-5 negates this because it combined with a Glock magazine almost perfectly match the weight of a Glock 19 and holster, and you're getting quite a bit of utility for that weight.

>>2801073
The weight is also offset by the fact that the knife is so indestructible that I don't feel the need to carry much of a spare, at most just my Mora Bushcraft. With most other knives, I know that I could potentially break them under certain circumstances, so I carry an exact duplicate in my pack. The ESEE-5 is like an axe head, in that I know that I'm never going to break it. The weight of the ESEE-5 combined with the Mora is actually less than two Kabar knives, so it paradoxically saves me weight.

ESEE knives are widely known to be extremely durable and that's precisely why they have their warranty. They know it won't cost them any money because people can't break their knives. The ESEE-5 is one of the rare knives that I don't think I could break even on purpose.

The grip of the ESEE-5 is ideal for EDC, a good balance between comfort and having a flat profile that sits tight against the body without printing. There are more contoured handle scales available for it, and you can also just build up grip tape in any manner you desire, which is why I typically don't complain much about factory grips on knives in general. ESEE grips give me enough security without needing a crossgaurd, which is important because my survival knives are always defacto combat knives as well because that's what I'm carrying, and they must be usable as such. The BOB grip looks inadequate to me, not enough finger stoppage there. This is something you can't resolve with tennis racket tape and is one of my major disqualifiers with most knives.

>>2801085
It's Ka-Bar and they won't hold an edge for shit.

>>2801087
>ideal balance of toughness to edge retention just like a hatchet or a machete
Ideal HRC is 56-58, not 55-57.
literally proving my point dumbass.

>>2801088
>is so indestructible
>literally expensive junk that is so easily broken they have a mass warranty on it

>>2801085
it's contender, I dislike the handle immensely, but if I was going to buy a k it would be the BKIII.
It's horrible for knife fighting, but for utility nothin comes close.
I have jimmied doors, broken locks, woodcrafted extensively with it, cut fences, split logs, scraped everything under the sun, and used it as a lever numerous times and it just keeps asking for more.

>>2801111
I'm completely satisfied with the hardness of typical hatchets and machetes which is rarely more than 55. I can get several days of work done in between touchups even with that. There is no reason for a harder blade. The vast majority of survival knives are heat treated too hard and this problem has been going on so long that Horace Kephart remarked on it. A survival knife by definition is a knife that you will use for similar tasks as a striking tool so it should have the same steel and heat treatment. You also want soft so you can easily repair damage with a file, because grinding out major nicks and snapped tips with a coarse stone can be grueling.

>>2801113
>I am fine with subpar standards
I mean you use an ESSE, I could tell that already.
>you also want soft
Not in a bushcraft knife you don't, you want it to retain its edge as long as humanly possible while not being so high HRC that it can brittle snap.
Hints 56-58 dumbass.
Don't talk about things you don't know.

>>2801073
> and your monkey brain thought ooga booga dat good
KEK. Thanks for the laugh anon. That’s classic.

>>2800958
Based, I'm glad someone else appreciates a sharpened pry bar.

>>2801085
>Rat tail tang
No thanks.

>>2801157
It's weird we went thru all of human history with rat-tail tangs on combat weapons like swords and daggers, but only with the advent of 'bushcrafting' that they are too weak and only a full-tang knife will survive.

>>2801050
fucking lmao gay knife

>>2801158
>The Rat-Tail and Stick Tang
These two tang types are found often in decorative sword construction. They are very similar in design. Both are a thin metal rod that is welded onto the shoulder of the blade that extends through the handle and is fastened by either a nut or a decorative pommel which is screwed onto the end. The only difference in these two tangs is the the rat-tail is a threaded rod and the stick tang is only threaded at the end. This construction works for decorative swords but is not strong enough for casual or martial arts use.
https://www.reliks.com/functional-swords/tang/
Want to try again?

>>2801173
Rat-tail doesn't mean welded together.

>>2801174
>Fixated on one word
You are one stupid nigger.

>>2801174
Here's your forged stick tang. Works great, very strong.

>>2801174
Probably just a bad heat treat on this one.

>>2801174
Tough as nails, practically indestructible.

>>2801118
Only someone with bad sharpening skills would say that. Touching up edges is effortless to me and I actually carry a sharpening kit I designed myself. The only time edge retention matters is if you're a professional butcher who is dragging a knife against a cutting board all day long and don't even have time to stop and sharpen because you're on the clock and have production quotas.

>>2801156
I thought it was a "sharpened pry bar" too until I had the opportunity to handle one at a store and saw that the edge geometry was actually very good, keener than most of my favorite hatchets and machetes at least and by no means reminiscent of a splitting maul as I had assumed. I reprofiled the edge to 17 degrees per side and the cutting performance was ultimately no worse than any of my other survival fixed blades. If I hadn't run into this knife at the prepped store in Waynesville North Carolina I probably would never have bought it, because the specs are pretty scary, 16 ounces for a 5.25" blade just isn't something you see every day.

>>2801158
Stabbing a guy isn't that hard on a knife compared to bushcraft stuff.

>>2801187
I understand you're upset that someone called you out on being 14 and thinking a literal amazon knife was "good".

>the only time edge retention matters
I mean this is literal proof you do not use knives enough for anyone to listen to your opinion.
Butchers sharpen their knives far more often than bushcrafters do. Because a clean cut on a piece of prime meat that is literally worth more than your beta boy knife ensures uniformity, maximum density of a specific cut of meat.
Which results in a rib eye roast that is unironically sold for 150 dollars.

See your mistake here is thinking you know anything and wasn't expecting someone who has experience both as a butcher and bushcrafter calling you on your shit.
I carry multiple knives when butchcrafting because it increases the longevity of each knife for its specific usage.
When I worked as a butcher I sharpened my knives lightly every night because it was my fucking profession dumbass.
If you want to apologize that's fine, I'll accept it.
You can always keep coping though.

>>2801190
I'm a professional butcher and have been for over a decade, so I was speaking from experience. Steeling a knife is not "sharpening" it. You will never see a butcher stop what he's doing and take out a bench stone and oil and resharpen his knife mid shift, I promise you that. I sharpen mine once a day before or sometimes after my shift.

I have been sharpening knives for over 20 years and can maintain an edge on carbon steel tools with extremely little effort using sharpening kits weighing as little as 3 ounces. My favorite system consists of pocket-sized stones and diamond plates, 3 or 4 inches long by 1 inch wide, super glued to sections of rectangular wood trim or aluminum tubes, with a little extra length to secure a small angle guide. To merely touch up a knife that has no visible damage I just have to repolish the edge with soft Arkansas for maybe two minutes, followed by 3000 grit sandpaper, which I prefer over any kind of strop. This process is about as effortless as tying my shoes and is generally only needed once every two or three days even with hatchets and machetes seeing regular use during a camping trip. I am also able to grind out chips, and even reestablish dented tips with the same kit very easily, though I'm fairly good at avoiding that kind of damage. So to me, the idea of sacrificing any degree of toughness whatsoever just for more edge retention is completely ludicrous, a raw deal. The idea of carrying multiple knives just to not have to sharpen them is something that would only make sense to someone who has extremely poor sharpening skills. That would be like carrying multiple guns so you don't have to change the magazine.

>>2801177
Kek. Is that from nam?
>guys this knife that’s 50 years old and went through a war then got left to rust for 45 years broke the first time a fat neckbeard tried batoning with it OMG!

>>2801211
The newer ones tend to bend rather than break. Either way the tang design is simply not suitable for wilderness survival. If you don't baton then just carry a folder, batonning is literally the only thing you need a fixed blade for given how good modern folders are. People in the old days carried fixed blades because folding knives back then were pieces of shit that required two hands and painful fingernail prying to open and were only 3" long and had no pocket clips and were usually extremely thin and prone to snapping.

>>2800958
Why are you guys still talking about this shit?
Like, in 2016 talking about knives was cool, now is just lame.
You guys need to go /out/ more, you guys will realize that a folding knife or a small knife is enough for most activities.

>>2801214
Don’t you get tired of being wrong all the time?
>seen the old man pry an alternator off an ‘85 Oldsmobile in the snow with one of these

>>2801237
I've seen plenty of those broken with less than that.

>>2801232
If you're just backpacking on a strict itinerary in summer with enough consumables for the duration and staying on trails, then yes you can get by with a pocketknife. That's what millions of people do every year.

>>2801176
>>2801177
>>2801179
No background issues there at all.

>>2801211
>Blames the rust
>Not the 90° corner where the tang meets the blade
You don't even know what the problem is but boy golly you're ready to diarrhea spray your shit opinion all over the place.

>>2801291
Somehow basic physics and geometry and engineering go out the window with knives and it's okay to put massive pressure on a narrow stress riser. What these people don't understand is that the Kabar was designed like that because it's the most cost effective way to incorporate a crossgaurd in a mass produced knife.

>>2801265
You dont plan your /out/ings or what?
Are you a fugitive hidding in the woods or somenthing like that?

>>2801317
I go out in the woods to practice survival skills, not to just look at scenic views.

>>2801343
What if I just value the ability to leave civilization on my terms?

>>2801156
If I was to get an ESSE it'd be the Junglas, why fuck around?

In the meantime I'm perfectly happy with my 6" KOA bush camp knife and Ontario Machete.

I don't feel like i NEED to spend money on more knives, I'm ok with what I have, they do the job.

https://archived.moe/out/search/text/knives%20of%20alaska/

>>2801418
Lateral rigidity, carry size, versatility.

>>2801376
>leave civilization on my terms
Are you going to make your clothes with a knife?
Top kek

>>2801510
I know how.

>>2801458
I find I have more versatility with a larger knife, but I also carry a smaller knife because while I am able to carve stuff with my large knife it's much easier with a smaller knife...YMMV.

>>2801637
Nice saw, I've had a few. Ended up getting a 14" folder.

>>2801088
How much are the paying you? Im kind of looking for a new job.