Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)15:26:26 | 27 comments | 1 images
What can be done about the chaparral menace? It’s the primary fuel carrying the current socal fires.
>not merchantable
>grows quickly
>can easily cause spot fires so dozer line buffers are ineffective
>prescription controlled burns would need to happen every five years and require hundreds if not thousands of personnel to be effective
>not merchantable
>grows quickly
>can easily cause spot fires so dozer line buffers are ineffective
>prescription controlled burns would need to happen every five years and require hundreds if not thousands of personnel to be effective
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)15:32:40 No.2798967
>>2798965
seems like the primary fuel is now the homes and business of the WUI and surrounding burbs. if the wind was blowing east this would be just another fire
seems like the primary fuel is now the homes and business of the WUI and surrounding burbs. if the wind was blowing east this would be just another fire
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)09:29:40 No.2799084
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)09:53:32 No.2799091
Build things out of rock and concrete
Like Rome
Like Rome
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)11:07:27 No.2799102
>>2798965
Well it's not the biome's fault that cities and municipalities keep letting people develop and build into it despite knowing the danger
Well it's not the biome's fault that cities and municipalities keep letting people develop and build into it despite knowing the danger
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)11:31:34 No.2799109
>>2798965
100' primary fire breaks around dwellings (nothing over 2' in height)
200' secondary fire breaks: nothing over 8 feet tall, with no limbs under 6', and no trees within 8' of each other. (not much of an issue there)
That's what we have to maintain in perpetuity here in OR for our house in F2 zoned land; and it seems pretty sensible.
100' primary fire breaks around dwellings (nothing over 2' in height)
200' secondary fire breaks: nothing over 8 feet tall, with no limbs under 6', and no trees within 8' of each other. (not much of an issue there)
That's what we have to maintain in perpetuity here in OR for our house in F2 zoned land; and it seems pretty sensible.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)11:43:20 No.2799114
>>2799109
but with 80mph winds like they had in SoCal no fire break or defensible space would help that...
but with 80mph winds like they had in SoCal no fire break or defensible space would help that...
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)11:49:09 No.2799118
>>2799109
Socal fires are not even remotely the same as PNW fires
Socal fires are not even remotely the same as PNW fires
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)11:49:51 No.2799119
>>2799114
Well, you aren't going to get a house burning down if there's no combustible material over a certain height. Having sprinkler systems and fireproof/resistant roofing would have helped too.
But ultimately they had really densely packed houses with trees and shrubbery for privacy/aesthetics.
Well, you aren't going to get a house burning down if there's no combustible material over a certain height. Having sprinkler systems and fireproof/resistant roofing would have helped too.
But ultimately they had really densely packed houses with trees and shrubbery for privacy/aesthetics.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)12:03:46 No.2799123
>>2799109
>100' primary fire breaks around dwellings (nothing over 2' in height)
LMAO good luck enforcing this.
>100' primary fire breaks around dwellings (nothing over 2' in height)
LMAO good luck enforcing this.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)13:38:21 No.2799133
>>2799119
>you aren't going to get a house burning down if there's no combustible material over a certain height.
Ever? like never? cuz that seems a tad unrealistic. There is no stopping a firestorm in the face of extreme winds. dont be retarded.
>you aren't going to get a house burning down if there's no combustible material over a certain height.
Ever? like never? cuz that seems a tad unrealistic. There is no stopping a firestorm in the face of extreme winds. dont be retarded.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)15:33:30 No.2799159
>>2799133
you contrarian faggot cunts are just insufferable.
firebreaks don't work. got it.
can we talk about hatchets now?
you contrarian faggot cunts are just insufferable.
firebreaks don't work. got it.
can we talk about hatchets now?
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)16:14:29 No.2799182
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)16:25:06 No.2799193
>>2799084
/thread. The "solution" to the chaparral is to leave it the fuck alone, the LA valley is massive and mostly extremely low-density; just build there and keep the hills as wilderness so when a fire does break out you just have to contain the overall area and defend the valley.
/thread. The "solution" to the chaparral is to leave it the fuck alone, the LA valley is massive and mostly extremely low-density; just build there and keep the hills as wilderness so when a fire does break out you just have to contain the overall area and defend the valley.
Anonymous 01/09/25(Thu)19:47:26 No.2799212
>>2799159
>firebreaks don't work.
>insinuating I claimed that.
You disingenous cunt. these fires started in the suburbs and were driven my 80mph winds causing spotting half mile away. a fire break would not (did not as there are breaks all thru the hills) have done shit. LA county has all sorts of defensible space regulations and codes. But huge fuel load from previous wet winters, very dry current conditions and extreme winds arent gonna be stopped.
>firebreaks don't work.
>insinuating I claimed that.
You disingenous cunt. these fires started in the suburbs and were driven my 80mph winds causing spotting half mile away. a fire break would not (did not as there are breaks all thru the hills) have done shit. LA county has all sorts of defensible space regulations and codes. But huge fuel load from previous wet winters, very dry current conditions and extreme winds arent gonna be stopped.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:52:55 No.2800030
>>2799182
Did someone say soil erosion?
Did someone say soil erosion?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:55:06 No.2800032
>>2799193
Exactly, just don't build on hillsides that are covered in chaparral, build in the valley instead, it's massive and low-density. Suburban sprawl is a cancer and in this case a flammable one...
Exactly, just don't build on hillsides that are covered in chaparral, build in the valley instead, it's massive and low-density. Suburban sprawl is a cancer and in this case a flammable one...
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)12:59:07 No.2800033
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:06:15 No.2800034
>>2800033
This, but without the antisemitism. Realistically there's people of all races more than happy to destroy ecosystems to turn a profit, it's not unique to Jews.
This, but without the antisemitism. Realistically there's people of all races more than happy to destroy ecosystems to turn a profit, it's not unique to Jews.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:25:02 No.2800039
>>2799091
Who is going to pay for it?
Who is going to pay for it?
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:33:15 No.2800042
>>2800033
As in there’s no incentive for logging companies to thin it out.
As in there’s no incentive for logging companies to thin it out.
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)13:54:21 No.2800046
>>2798965
Fire resistant roofing and not developing hills and ridges is the answer. Doing some prescribed burns would be a good idea, but no one will insure the prescribed burn because of property values in the area, so force the property owners to cooperatively accept the liability for burns. Let the insurance companies develop an actuarial table for wildfire risk and charge these retards a fair premium (IE enough to replace the structure every 20 years or so)
Fire resistant roofing and not developing hills and ridges is the answer. Doing some prescribed burns would be a good idea, but no one will insure the prescribed burn because of property values in the area, so force the property owners to cooperatively accept the liability for burns. Let the insurance companies develop an actuarial table for wildfire risk and charge these retards a fair premium (IE enough to replace the structure every 20 years or so)
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)17:58:50 No.2800122
>>2800046
The fires had nothing to do with any of that stuff, God is angry with them so it would happen so matter what
The fires had nothing to do with any of that stuff, God is angry with them so it would happen so matter what
Anonymous 01/14/25(Tue)20:42:26 No.2800139
>>2800039
Retarded fags like you are why things suck
Retarded fags like you are why things suck
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)00:19:39 No.2800467
>>2800034
>there's people of all races more than happy to destroy ecosystems to turn a profit
Yet only one of them guaranteed to do so.
>there's people of all races more than happy to destroy ecosystems to turn a profit
Yet only one of them guaranteed to do so.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:08:34 No.2800489
>>2800122
Gods gonna be angry at them no matter what changes get made then, perhaps they should replace Hollywood with The New Vatican
Gods gonna be angry at them no matter what changes get made then, perhaps they should replace Hollywood with The New Vatican
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:39:01 No.2800490
before humans got there, what was the ecosystem like of the places that burnede?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)03:57:51 No.2800495
>>2800490
In Australia Abbos used to do burns for hunting purposes. But even before that fire hawks are a bird that intentionally spread natural fires to eat cooked bugs afterwards
In Australia Abbos used to do burns for hunting purposes. But even before that fire hawks are a bird that intentionally spread natural fires to eat cooked bugs afterwards