What is this nordic ski all about?
Anonymous 01/06/25(Mon)16:35:24 | 17 comments | 4 images
I found some sky paws on a mountain road.
Seems there is a skying type i wasn't aware of.
Do you practice it? Is it common? Do you need a prepared trail for it or you go on wild snow?
Seems there is a skying type i wasn't aware of.
Do you practice it? Is it common? Do you need a prepared trail for it or you go on wild snow?
Anonymous 01/06/25(Mon)16:42:43 No.2798622
https://youtu.be/80aHjnvDHmM?si=Vw2MezxY0sMi9Tve
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)04:56:38 No.2798699
I love cross country skiing. Long , flat forest service roads though snowy woods are wonderful.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)16:52:26 No.2798983
>>2798620
Nordic backcountry skiing is the best way to travel on snow. It's what polar explorers use, and for good reason.
If you've got any questions I'll try my best to answer them.
Nordic backcountry skiing is the best way to travel on snow. It's what polar explorers use, and for good reason.
If you've got any questions I'll try my best to answer them.
Anonymous 01/08/25(Wed)17:38:14 No.2798993
>>2798983
I'm a retard and didn't even answer your questions.
Nordic backcountry skiing is the middle ground between groomed trail-bound cross country skiing and steep alpine touring. It's good for skiing the backcountry in various conditions and on varying terrain.
Do you practice it?
Yes. It's very fun, both to cover ground on snow and to stay in shape. More effortless than snowshoeing, but definitely can't go everywhere the snowhoes can.
Is it common?
Here in Norway it is. It originated here, pretty much. Probably quite niche in the great US of A though.
Do you need a prepared trail for it or you go on wild snow?
With nordic backcountry gear you don't need a prepared trail. You break trail yourself, which can be quite exhausting at times. On regular cross country skis however, a groomed trail is pretty much necessary. They aren't really made for flotation on snow, but speed and efficiency as they are narrow and long. Nordic backcountry skis can vary in sizes, on the other hand. You can get them both narrow and wide, short and long, depending on use case and personal preference. If they're narrow enough (70mm max.) they also fit in regular groomed trail tracks.
I personally recommend waxless skis, as I prefer my coffee breaks to consist of drinking cofe instead of waxing skis. Then there's the question of steel edges or not. If you want to ski with your dog, forgo the steel edges. It's like a knife edge and not a good combination with dog paws.
Go for a leather boot (Crispi, Alpina, Alfa) and the tried and true Rottefella NNN-BC binding. Can recommend the Telemarktalk forum if you want to delve deeper into it.
I'm a retard and didn't even answer your questions.
Nordic backcountry skiing is the middle ground between groomed trail-bound cross country skiing and steep alpine touring. It's good for skiing the backcountry in various conditions and on varying terrain.
Do you practice it?
Yes. It's very fun, both to cover ground on snow and to stay in shape. More effortless than snowshoeing, but definitely can't go everywhere the snowhoes can.
Is it common?
Here in Norway it is. It originated here, pretty much. Probably quite niche in the great US of A though.
Do you need a prepared trail for it or you go on wild snow?
With nordic backcountry gear you don't need a prepared trail. You break trail yourself, which can be quite exhausting at times. On regular cross country skis however, a groomed trail is pretty much necessary. They aren't really made for flotation on snow, but speed and efficiency as they are narrow and long. Nordic backcountry skis can vary in sizes, on the other hand. You can get them both narrow and wide, short and long, depending on use case and personal preference. If they're narrow enough (70mm max.) they also fit in regular groomed trail tracks.
I personally recommend waxless skis, as I prefer my coffee breaks to consist of drinking cofe instead of waxing skis. Then there's the question of steel edges or not. If you want to ski with your dog, forgo the steel edges. It's like a knife edge and not a good combination with dog paws.
Go for a leather boot (Crispi, Alpina, Alfa) and the tried and true Rottefella NNN-BC binding. Can recommend the Telemarktalk forum if you want to delve deeper into it.
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:06:24 No.2800360
>>2798993
You seem smart. Nta but I've been XC for 2 seasons now on simple skinny skis and touring low-cut boots. Lately I've been bored of groomed trails and have been taking these toothpicks into the forest. I'm having a blast but unless it's really steep I might as well be snow shoeing.
As such I'm looking for a bc setup. I figure I'll keep the skinnys for the groomed trails, amd as such might as well go all the way and get some real bc skis.
Probably will be skiing over lots of flat powder with a lot of uphill. Would like the ability to descent with more confidence, eventually dabbling into skiing down slides. For now, down big hills is good enough.
Basically I'm looking to min-max. One pair fast on groomed trails, the other a back country exploration machine. Would you recommend 3 pin or nnnbc? I'm leaning towards 3 pin as I can get plastic boots and those fancy heel straps if I ever want to really telemark. Is this logical or am I @ dumby?
You seem smart. Nta but I've been XC for 2 seasons now on simple skinny skis and touring low-cut boots. Lately I've been bored of groomed trails and have been taking these toothpicks into the forest. I'm having a blast but unless it's really steep I might as well be snow shoeing.
As such I'm looking for a bc setup. I figure I'll keep the skinnys for the groomed trails, amd as such might as well go all the way and get some real bc skis.
Probably will be skiing over lots of flat powder with a lot of uphill. Would like the ability to descent with more confidence, eventually dabbling into skiing down slides. For now, down big hills is good enough.
Basically I'm looking to min-max. One pair fast on groomed trails, the other a back country exploration machine. Would you recommend 3 pin or nnnbc? I'm leaning towards 3 pin as I can get plastic boots and those fancy heel straps if I ever want to really telemark. Is this logical or am I @ dumby?
Anonymous 01/16/25(Thu)12:16:19 No.2800363
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)05:20:47 No.2800500
>>2800360
For lots of flat and uphill powder with the ability to descend in confidence, I’d recommend a 98 ski from Fischer or Åsnes. There’s a video by Tom M on youtube about 3 pin vs nnnBC bindings. With 3 pin, the shoe flexes and acts as the pivot. On nnnBC the little bar at the toe pivots around the binding, but you can flex the boot additionally. Stability is comparable. But a 3 pin cable binding is definitely more stable.
The Fischer Trace 82 skis one can see in the images I posted are a jack of all trades. But I yearn for a wider pair like the Fischer Adventure/S-Bound 98 or Åsnes Rabb 68 for deeper snow and more downhill confidence. With the Trace 82 skis (82-60-70mm width) I sank to my calves in waist deep powder. But they’re also 206cm long. The wider the skis, the shorter you can get them.
You don’t want the skis too wide, as it makes the exploration part of the backcountry a slog. With alpine touring skis, you shuffle forward. With backcountry skis, you can kick & glide. There’s always a trade-off.
If you want to really really telemark, a proper boot like the Scarpa TX Pro and NTN bindings on dedicated fat telemark skis is what you should go for. Rottefella also recently released their new Xplore binding. I have no experience with it, but it’s apparently a nnnBC but more useful on the downhill.
There are a lot of skis, boots and bindings. Don’t get discouraged by the amount of different combos. Get what you want to try and try it. Go for used gear where you can, it’s good for your wallet and the environment. If you don’t like it, you can sell it on. Although the most important of all is technique and skill. Just get out and ski.
>>2800363
Thank you anon. It means a lot :)
For lots of flat and uphill powder with the ability to descend in confidence, I’d recommend a 98 ski from Fischer or Åsnes. There’s a video by Tom M on youtube about 3 pin vs nnnBC bindings. With 3 pin, the shoe flexes and acts as the pivot. On nnnBC the little bar at the toe pivots around the binding, but you can flex the boot additionally. Stability is comparable. But a 3 pin cable binding is definitely more stable.
The Fischer Trace 82 skis one can see in the images I posted are a jack of all trades. But I yearn for a wider pair like the Fischer Adventure/S-Bound 98 or Åsnes Rabb 68 for deeper snow and more downhill confidence. With the Trace 82 skis (82-60-70mm width) I sank to my calves in waist deep powder. But they’re also 206cm long. The wider the skis, the shorter you can get them.
You don’t want the skis too wide, as it makes the exploration part of the backcountry a slog. With alpine touring skis, you shuffle forward. With backcountry skis, you can kick & glide. There’s always a trade-off.
If you want to really really telemark, a proper boot like the Scarpa TX Pro and NTN bindings on dedicated fat telemark skis is what you should go for. Rottefella also recently released their new Xplore binding. I have no experience with it, but it’s apparently a nnnBC but more useful on the downhill.
There are a lot of skis, boots and bindings. Don’t get discouraged by the amount of different combos. Get what you want to try and try it. Go for used gear where you can, it’s good for your wallet and the environment. If you don’t like it, you can sell it on. Although the most important of all is technique and skill. Just get out and ski.
>>2800363
Thank you anon. It means a lot :)
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)08:01:44 No.2800509
>>2800500
Those alpine touring skies. How can you walk upward with them? Do they have some "teeths" pointed backward or they use the poles or both?
Those alpine touring skies. How can you walk upward with them? Do they have some "teeths" pointed backward or they use the poles or both?
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)12:54:27 No.2800560
>>2800500
Ty for the advice anon. Going out this weekend to test ride some kit. I think with my current skill level the important this to do will be to just ski.
Definitely not interested in proper telemark, I don't live in such a hilly place. I reckon id be trekking for 75% of the time so will be aiming for skis that let me glide more.
I love tom m and have learned a lot from him, part of why I want to upgrade my skis! Plan right now is to find a good pair of stiff boots and get some used skis. Learn what I like and don't like. Then upgrade the skis.
Ty for the advice anon. Going out this weekend to test ride some kit. I think with my current skill level the important this to do will be to just ski.
Definitely not interested in proper telemark, I don't live in such a hilly place. I reckon id be trekking for 75% of the time so will be aiming for skis that let me glide more.
I love tom m and have learned a lot from him, part of why I want to upgrade my skis! Plan right now is to find a good pair of stiff boots and get some used skis. Learn what I like and don't like. Then upgrade the skis.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)05:50:58 No.2800693
>>2800509
Skins about as wide and long as the skis themselves. If it gets too steep, you take the skis off and walk upwards, sometimes zig-zagging. There are crampons and and ascent plates you can get for putting on ski mountaineering boots to aid in that. There's also crampons you can attach to the skis/bindings themselves, pic rel.
Skins about as wide and long as the skis themselves. If it gets too steep, you take the skis off and walk upwards, sometimes zig-zagging. There are crampons and and ascent plates you can get for putting on ski mountaineering boots to aid in that. There's also crampons you can attach to the skis/bindings themselves, pic rel.
Anonymous 01/18/25(Sat)21:50:05 No.2800857
I don't understand how to cross country ski / nordic ski. How do you even find places to go that are public and not super popular ski resorts?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)01:08:48 No.2800873
>>2800857
In Norway we have public cross country tracks everywhere in the mountains.
In Norway we have public cross country tracks everywhere in the mountains.
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:22:02 No.2800896
>>2800693
Why not using normal ski and boots?
Why not using normal ski and boots?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:23:44 No.2800897
What is i diy my old skies and boots with some nails or metal wire?
Anonymous 01/19/25(Sun)05:52:07 No.2800902
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)06:01:27 No.2801195
>>2800857
In Norway everywhere, basically, is public. Having a right to roam is a right every (white)human should have. There are a lot of groomed cross country tracks that are open to the public and free to use. If you want to go backcountry skiing, you just go into the backcountry. Simple as that. As long as you're 150m from a building and not on arable land (unless winter), you're gucci.
In Norway everywhere, basically, is public. Having a right to roam is a right every (white)human should have. There are a lot of groomed cross country tracks that are open to the public and free to use. If you want to go backcountry skiing, you just go into the backcountry. Simple as that. As long as you're 150m from a building and not on arable land (unless winter), you're gucci.
Anonymous 01/20/25(Mon)06:10:20 No.2801196
>>2800896
>Why not using normal ski and boots?
It can be quite tedious to bring multiple pairs of boots and skis. Although I don't understand your question. What are "normal" skis and boots?
>>2800897
>What if i diy my old skies and boots with some nails or metal wire?
You can't be serious. If the skis have a wood core, you risk water ingress into the ski which results in rot. Also, nails and metal wire are downright dangerous. Imagine tumbling down the mountain with that attached to your skis or feet. If you have to ask that, you shouldn't go where it's that steep.
>>2800902
>Why are you there during night
Because when I go to work, it's dark. When I get home, it's dark. On days where I can go skiing while it's light outside, the sun isn't up for long anyway.
>Why not using normal ski and boots?
It can be quite tedious to bring multiple pairs of boots and skis. Although I don't understand your question. What are "normal" skis and boots?
>>2800897
>What if i diy my old skies and boots with some nails or metal wire?
You can't be serious. If the skis have a wood core, you risk water ingress into the ski which results in rot. Also, nails and metal wire are downright dangerous. Imagine tumbling down the mountain with that attached to your skis or feet. If you have to ask that, you shouldn't go where it's that steep.
>>2800902
>Why are you there during night
Because when I go to work, it's dark. When I get home, it's dark. On days where I can go skiing while it's light outside, the sun isn't up for long anyway.