Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)10:00:49 | 55 comments | 11 images
>be me
>adult now, so i wanted to buy a good knife
>always wanted one since i was a kid. No money and time so i waited
>was going for a gerber but decided to do some research
>find an esse 4
>"wow that's an amazingly durable knife"
>buy on blade hq
>2 days later
>turns out the same knife can be made with 2 different steel
>didnt know this until now
>check the knife i saw on review
>it's s35v
>check mine
>it's 1095
>"Your order has been shipped"
>mfw
>adult now, so i wanted to buy a good knife
>always wanted one since i was a kid. No money and time so i waited
>was going for a gerber but decided to do some research
>find an esse 4
>"wow that's an amazingly durable knife"
>buy on blade hq
>2 days later
>turns out the same knife can be made with 2 different steel
>didnt know this until now
>check the knife i saw on review
>it's s35v
>check mine
>it's 1095
>"Your order has been shipped"
>mfw
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)10:13:00 No.2797349
>>2797346
/out/ - Outdoors?
/out/ - Outdoors?
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)10:20:04 No.2797352
>>2797346
We live in the age of cheap fairly high quality steels. Some are better than others, but you can buy a beater knife for $30 today that will be higher quality than most that were used in the past centuries.
So I collect pocket knives because I like them but the reality is that as far as actually using them for things besides opening packages, I recommend getting a nice solid cheap fixed blade knife- and use it like a beater. You don't have to worry about breaking or losing it. And hey if you mess it up who really cares.
The two best knives I ever bought were 1. This little Ontario Knife sheeps-foot fixed blade that I've been using mostly like a little shovel for years now when I dig up plants. 2. This big giant goofy looking Cold Steel throwing style Bowie. It's just a big hunk of metal and it fits down in my boot well because it doesn't have a real handle. I abuse both of these knives- throw them at trees, etc etc. and I've yet to damage either of them seriously.
We live in the age of cheap fairly high quality steels. Some are better than others, but you can buy a beater knife for $30 today that will be higher quality than most that were used in the past centuries.
So I collect pocket knives because I like them but the reality is that as far as actually using them for things besides opening packages, I recommend getting a nice solid cheap fixed blade knife- and use it like a beater. You don't have to worry about breaking or losing it. And hey if you mess it up who really cares.
The two best knives I ever bought were 1. This little Ontario Knife sheeps-foot fixed blade that I've been using mostly like a little shovel for years now when I dig up plants. 2. This big giant goofy looking Cold Steel throwing style Bowie. It's just a big hunk of metal and it fits down in my boot well because it doesn't have a real handle. I abuse both of these knives- throw them at trees, etc etc. and I've yet to damage either of them seriously.
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)11:00:15 No.2797359
Knife faggots will disagree because they're hyper autists, but 1095 is the fucking goat.
Enjoy having a knife that actually works like a knife, and be a man and endure the mild discoloration of carbon. It will take 100 years to rot away even if you neglect it don't be such a woman
Enjoy having a knife that actually works like a knife, and be a man and endure the mild discoloration of carbon. It will take 100 years to rot away even if you neglect it don't be such a woman
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)14:24:09 No.2797396
>>2797346
1095 is alright. The esee 4 is a shitty design, though. It's one of those "knives" that are designed on the assumption that the owner is a retard. Way to thick, with blunt angles on the adge so that even batoning or striking it against a nail won't break or chip it.
The only thing knives like that are good for are combat (where the extra rigidity means it'll also pierce leather jackets or thin kevlar) or using them as a prybar. For everything else, a 10$ Mora is far superior.
On the plus side, the flat handle, uncomfortable as it is, is way easier to conceal than the roundish handles most good knives have. That's actually the only reason I own an esee, it's the only blade that size that i know of that can be concealed easily.
1095 is alright. The esee 4 is a shitty design, though. It's one of those "knives" that are designed on the assumption that the owner is a retard. Way to thick, with blunt angles on the adge so that even batoning or striking it against a nail won't break or chip it.
The only thing knives like that are good for are combat (where the extra rigidity means it'll also pierce leather jackets or thin kevlar) or using them as a prybar. For everything else, a 10$ Mora is far superior.
On the plus side, the flat handle, uncomfortable as it is, is way easier to conceal than the roundish handles most good knives have. That's actually the only reason I own an esee, it's the only blade that size that i know of that can be concealed easily.
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)15:55:58 No.2797441
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Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)22:12:26 No.2797493
4 is a great choice, I went with 6. Dumb, barely used it, been a couple years now, just havnt bought another ESEE, because I can do everything I need with a smaller knife, and better, I like whittling.
>>2797482
1095 is a good carbon steel for outdoor use, in my opinion, just gotta oil it and not leave it in a puddle of salt water
ESEE 5 holy shit don't fall for the "sharpened pry bar" thing, like the becker bk2. If you want a knife, buy a knife, if you want a crowbar buy a crowbar.
>>2797482
1095 is a good carbon steel for outdoor use, in my opinion, just gotta oil it and not leave it in a puddle of salt water
ESEE 5 holy shit don't fall for the "sharpened pry bar" thing, like the becker bk2. If you want a knife, buy a knife, if you want a crowbar buy a crowbar.
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)22:51:03 No.2797501
>>2797482
The s35v makes the 1095 obsolete
The s35v makes the 1095 obsolete
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)22:59:15 No.2797504
>>2797493
Lol, lmao.
Lol, lmao.
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)22:59:26 No.2797505
>>2797501
most knives/machetes that actually do work, are probably still made from leaf-springs off trucks from the 60s, or older
this whole knife steel wank just pisses me off
most knives/machetes that actually do work, are probably still made from leaf-springs off trucks from the 60s, or older
this whole knife steel wank just pisses me off
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)23:10:58 No.2797508
>>2797505
Himalayan imports Chiruwa Ang Khola.
Made out of a 1960's Mercedes leaf spring. I've processed more fire wood with this than my hatchet.
Himalayan imports Chiruwa Ang Khola.
Made out of a 1960's Mercedes leaf spring. I've processed more fire wood with this than my hatchet.
Anonymous 12/30/24(Mon)23:32:01 No.2797515
Meme steel is just meme steel, it's objectively "better" but does absolutely fucking nothing that any half decent steel won't. 1095 will be just fine, it's a fucking knife, a chunk of metal sharpened enough to cut things you run into. It's going to spend 99.99% of it's life going unused, the majority of that last 0.01% will be tape/rope/other soft shit with the most challenging thing it should ever face being wood. Enjoy your tool, use it responsibly, take care of it, and it will outlast your grandchildren. Hell I carry pic related most of the time, $12 at Walmart, used up/broke/lost a half dozen of them over the years. Still nowhere near the cost of a "good" knife and I don't feel bad at all about abusing the fuck out of it because it's $12. Killed my last one using it to chip dried clay out of the disc.
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)03:04:32 No.2797542
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)05:42:53 No.2797548
If you need something more expensive than this i assume it will just be used for opening funko pop boxes from amazon
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k 12/31/24(Tue)09:31:56 No.2797563
>>2797346
S35V is the one they made for knife collectors. Originally all of their stuff was 1095 because it was a company associated with a survival school that wanted to make real outdoors survival knives. And the knife collectors found them and for yesrs the collectors were like “Why don’t you use supersteels?! We will pay whatever you ask!” So finally Esee did it because money is money and they can make more survival knives with the money they ripped off from the collectors. But when they released the supersteel knives, they made it explcitly clear that they are collector knives and not for real world use.
S35V is the one they made for knife collectors. Originally all of their stuff was 1095 because it was a company associated with a survival school that wanted to make real outdoors survival knives. And the knife collectors found them and for yesrs the collectors were like “Why don’t you use supersteels?! We will pay whatever you ask!” So finally Esee did it because money is money and they can make more survival knives with the money they ripped off from the collectors. But when they released the supersteel knives, they made it explcitly clear that they are collector knives and not for real world use.
Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k 12/31/24(Tue)10:16:49 No.2797569
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)12:25:53 No.2797582
If anything this thread has convinced me to never buy an esee because eseeniggers are gay as fuck
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)12:43:12 No.2797585
>>2797346
>>check the knife i saw on review
>>it's s35v
>>check mine
>>it's 1095
You dodged a bullet. S35v is awesome in a pocket knife, but far too brittle for a beater knife like an ESEE 4.
>>check the knife i saw on review
>>it's s35v
>>check mine
>>it's 1095
You dodged a bullet. S35v is awesome in a pocket knife, but far too brittle for a beater knife like an ESEE 4.
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)17:39:01 No.2797630
>>2797346
For an actual /out/ knife I prefer regular steels that aren't brittle and can be sharpened easily. Most high end steel is either brittle or takes an hour to sharpen.
For an actual /out/ knife I prefer regular steels that aren't brittle and can be sharpened easily. Most high end steel is either brittle or takes an hour to sharpen.
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)18:13:49 No.2797636
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)18:17:48 No.2797637
>>2797630
As an /out/ newbie, this. I like a knife that is OK but that I know I can beat the shit out of without remorse. Then I'll resharpen as needed, and when it's done for, it's done for.
As an /out/ newbie, this. I like a knife that is OK but that I know I can beat the shit out of without remorse. Then I'll resharpen as needed, and when it's done for, it's done for.
Anonymous 12/31/24(Tue)20:43:40 No.2797656
if you are actually outside your knife will take abuse, it will take a beating and a good knife goes blunt just like a shit knife and both can be sharpened back up with a file and a rock.
knife material hardly matters.
knife material hardly matters.
Anonymous 01/01/25(Wed)07:00:17 No.2797699
>>2797548
gardberg costs 100 usd now wtf
gardberg costs 100 usd now wtf
Anonymous 01/01/25(Wed)08:09:45 No.2797702
>>2797441
>he doesn't know cotton uniforms are a thing of the past
Try taking that fairbairn-sykes and piercing through kevlar, or even just motorcycle protectors. Chances are it'll bend, or maybe even break.
Part of the reason why most armies switched to massive knives like the applegate-fairbairn, the glock 79 / 81 or the KM2000.
>he doesn't know cotton uniforms are a thing of the past
Try taking that fairbairn-sykes and piercing through kevlar, or even just motorcycle protectors. Chances are it'll bend, or maybe even break.
Part of the reason why most armies switched to massive knives like the applegate-fairbairn, the glock 79 / 81 or the KM2000.
Anonymous 01/01/25(Wed)08:56:58 No.2797704
I just use the Mora companion heavy duty in carbon steel.
The last one I bought cost me £18 and has lasted me 5 years so far? The best thing about Moras is they're really good fucking knives for a low cost so you don't mind breaking them. I'm somewhat ambivalent about knives and while I enjoy using them I don't really want to put lots of extra effort into maintaining one or being extra careful when using it.
Its a tool and it's going to get the shit beat out of it. If I spent hundreds on a knife, I wouldn't want to put it to heavy use. My moras, I beat the hell out of them and enjoy doing so.
The last one I bought cost me £18 and has lasted me 5 years so far? The best thing about Moras is they're really good fucking knives for a low cost so you don't mind breaking them. I'm somewhat ambivalent about knives and while I enjoy using them I don't really want to put lots of extra effort into maintaining one or being extra careful when using it.
Its a tool and it's going to get the shit beat out of it. If I spent hundreds on a knife, I wouldn't want to put it to heavy use. My moras, I beat the hell out of them and enjoy doing so.
Anonymous 01/03/25(Fri)11:18:41 No.2798060
>>2797704
If your knife breaks in field, arent you fucked
If your knife breaks in field, arent you fucked
Anonymous 01/03/25(Fri)14:37:41 No.2798082
>>2797702
The only thing you're gonna "pierce" with your knife is sausage, Sherlock.
Soldiers don't fight with their knives.
The only thing you're gonna "pierce" with your knife is sausage, Sherlock.
Soldiers don't fight with their knives.
Anonymous 01/03/25(Fri)14:51:22 No.2798085
Anonymous 01/03/25(Fri)15:24:26 No.2798091
>>2798085
LMFAO I'm still laughing since your last post haha did you think people have some kind of medieval jousting where they pierce each other's flak vest with knives?
Hahaha what are you on?
LMFAO I'm still laughing since your last post haha did you think people have some kind of medieval jousting where they pierce each other's flak vest with knives?
Hahaha what are you on?
Anonymous 01/03/25(Fri)15:43:46 No.2798096
The piercer - Iron incel
You'll pierce my vest, but I'll pierce yours too
No need for guns 'cause I'll pierce you through
You'll pierce my vest, but I'll pierce yours too
No need for guns 'cause I'll pierce you through
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)05:21:25 No.2798181
>>2798091
You missed the latest war porn where a Ukrainian and a Russian fought in hand to hand combat?
You missed the latest war porn where a Ukrainian and a Russian fought in hand to hand combat?
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)05:44:10 No.2798182
>>2798181
>Two years of war
>One video
Was the ballistic vest pierced too? Kek. Anyway, none of this is on-topic.
>Two years of war
>One video
Was the ballistic vest pierced too? Kek. Anyway, none of this is on-topic.
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)07:17:45 No.2798188
>>2798082
Suuuure. Which is why they practice knife fighting, why they get knife that are literally called "combat knife" (That's what the KM in KM2000 stands for, for example) in addition to their multitools, why they get stab protection instead of just soft ballistics and why their knives have otherwise useless features like the "saw" on the Glock 81.
>>2798091
>what is sentry removal
Let me guess, your education on modern military tactics took place on a battlefield server?
Suuuure. Which is why they practice knife fighting, why they get knife that are literally called "combat knife" (That's what the KM in KM2000 stands for, for example) in addition to their multitools, why they get stab protection instead of just soft ballistics and why their knives have otherwise useless features like the "saw" on the Glock 81.
>>2798091
>what is sentry removal
Let me guess, your education on modern military tactics took place on a battlefield server?
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)07:19:23 No.2798190
>>2798188
LMFAO what are you smoking?
LMFAO what are you smoking?
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)07:32:08 No.2798193
>>2798188
hes right, knife fights rarely happen in 21st century warfare
hes right, knife fights rarely happen in 21st century warfare
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)07:52:25 No.2798198
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)08:03:07 No.2798201
>>2798198
>AR
Stands for
>Assault, Ranged
That's to distinguish it from the main weapon of war, ballistic vest-piercing knives (not Fairbairn-Sykes).
>15
That is the year of introduction, 1915.
>AR
Stands for
>Assault, Ranged
That's to distinguish it from the main weapon of war, ballistic vest-piercing knives (not Fairbairn-Sykes).
>15
That is the year of introduction, 1915.
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)08:47:36 No.2798205
>>2798182
>Okay, it happened.
>BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE SPECIFIC WAY MY AUTISTIC BRAIN CONJURED SO IT DOESN'T COUNT, OKAY!?
If you were wearing a plate I'd stab you in the crotch or armpit anyway.
>Oops, missed your crotch, still got your femoral. Oops, missed your pit, still got your radial. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Okay, it happened.
>BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE SPECIFIC WAY MY AUTISTIC BRAIN CONJURED SO IT DOESN'T COUNT, OKAY!?
If you were wearing a plate I'd stab you in the crotch or armpit anyway.
>Oops, missed your crotch, still got your femoral. Oops, missed your pit, still got your radial. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous 01/04/25(Sat)09:01:57 No.2798209
>>2798198
>The KM2000 (KM designates Kampfmesser, literally "combat knife") is the standard combat knife of the German Bundeswehr, mostly used by the German Army.
>"Assault Rifle 15".
Everyone knows it's AUTOMATIC rifle 15 (year of incorporation: 1915)
>The KM2000 (KM designates Kampfmesser, literally "combat knife") is the standard combat knife of the German Bundeswehr, mostly used by the German Army.
>"Assault Rifle 15".
Everyone knows it's AUTOMATIC rifle 15 (year of incorporation: 1915)
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Anonymous 01/05/25(Sun)22:27:23 No.2798498
>>2798210
I dont know nigga maybe i try to kill you with a knife and you try to kill me with a knife nigga idk nigga maybe that's what most people mean by a knife fight nigger just me though nigga, im sure everyone has different definition of a knife fight nigga
I dont know nigga maybe i try to kill you with a knife and you try to kill me with a knife nigga idk nigga maybe that's what most people mean by a knife fight nigger just me though nigga, im sure everyone has different definition of a knife fight nigga
Anonymous 01/06/25(Mon)11:05:16 No.2798574
>>2798498
Not that anon, but what if I have a knife and you have nothing? Is that not a knife fight? It's obviously not an unarmed fight.
Not that anon, but what if I have a knife and you have nothing? Is that not a knife fight? It's obviously not an unarmed fight.
Anonymous 01/06/25(Mon)15:38:29 No.2798610
I don't get why knife fags buy shit from companies when knifemaking is so popular these days.
Anonymous 01/06/25(Mon)18:18:00 No.2798635
>>2798610
I'd rather company than some autist for an over expensive piece of 1095
I'd rather company than some autist for an over expensive piece of 1095
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)01:00:43 No.2798690
>>2798610
yeah retard because everyone has a forge, an anvil, hammer, a belt grinder, a giant workbench and could afford all of them in an apartment you retard
yeah retard because everyone has a forge, an anvil, hammer, a belt grinder, a giant workbench and could afford all of them in an apartment you retard
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)10:21:56 No.2798724
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)11:36:49 No.2798740
>>2798610
Buy an ad, nigger, never buying overpriced mediocre shit from small time cucks like you
Buy an ad, nigger, never buying overpriced mediocre shit from small time cucks like you
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)11:56:55 No.2798746
>>2798060
Depends how it breaks. I snapped a Gerber about 2/3 of the way up the blade batoning wood one time. The remaining amount of blade was still usable for cutting tasks and feather sticks etc but of course any finer work requiring a point was off the table. I had a small folding pocket knife with me as a backup anyway.
Still have never managed to snap a mora in the way that gerber broke.
Depends how it breaks. I snapped a Gerber about 2/3 of the way up the blade batoning wood one time. The remaining amount of blade was still usable for cutting tasks and feather sticks etc but of course any finer work requiring a point was off the table. I had a small folding pocket knife with me as a backup anyway.
Still have never managed to snap a mora in the way that gerber broke.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)12:04:15 No.2798747
>>2798724
Ahahahahahahah go have a jousting in the local bathouse ahahah you complete cretin ahahahahahah.
Ahahahahahahah go have a jousting in the local bathouse ahahah you complete cretin ahahahahahah.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)12:30:06 No.2798749
>>2798747
Do you really talk like that? Jesus, that's embarrassing.
Do you really talk like that? Jesus, that's embarrassing.
Anonymous 01/07/25(Tue)12:37:01 No.2798751
>>2798749
Sounds like you got some vaginal inflamation.
Sounds like you got some vaginal inflamation.
Anonymous 01/17/25(Fri)21:33:47 No.2800630
Anyway op here and my esee came