Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:07:45 | 45 comments | 6 images
Why do atheists seem to believe that Hell is just one big musical party? Why is it that they get all of their biblical "knowledge" from fictional television shows created by non-Christians?
Is it because they are too afraid to read the bible and face the realities of the fiery pit of eternal damnation?
Is it because they are too afraid to read the bible and face the realities of the fiery pit of eternal damnation?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:13:37 No.17447910
If the fire scare didnt work the first hundred bajillion times, why would it work this one time?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:18:05 No.17447919
>>17447910
Because Hell is real with mountains of evidence to suport it
Because Hell is real with mountains of evidence to suport it
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:22:18 No.17447933
>>17447919
Yes anon, le inmaterial punishment for inmaterial beings is real
Yes anon, le inmaterial punishment for inmaterial beings is real
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:23:35 No.17447935
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:26:58 No.17447946
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:32:30 No.17447960
Probably because the fiery, eternal torment that Christians masturbate to doesn’t even exist in the Bible.
The
>Lake of Fire
In Revelations is stolen from the Book of Enoch. Even so, there’s nothing to imply it’s eternal burning. More like a soul-deletion.
>Hurr duh rich man and Abraham
That’s a parable, and, even so, there’s nothing claiming it’s eternal either.
The
>Lake of Fire
In Revelations is stolen from the Book of Enoch. Even so, there’s nothing to imply it’s eternal burning. More like a soul-deletion.
>Hurr duh rich man and Abraham
That’s a parable, and, even so, there’s nothing claiming it’s eternal either.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:32:50 No.17447963
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:37:50 No.17447978
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:41:29 No.17447990
>>17447902
I'd kill to see ricky do a video dub of all these schizo OPs
I'd kill to see ricky do a video dub of all these schizo OPs
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)15:31:31 No.17448077
>>17447935
Based
Based
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)16:52:47 No.17448194
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)16:55:06 No.17448196
It's all about folk Christianity
In Folk Christianity Hell is a place where bad people go, for example murderers and rapists, and the rest go to Heaven
In Folk Christianity people in Hell are punished by Satan and the demons
In Folk Christianity Hell is a place where bad people go, for example murderers and rapists, and the rest go to Heaven
In Folk Christianity people in Hell are punished by Satan and the demons
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)17:04:59 No.17448210
>>17447960
Jesus never said Lazarus and the Rich Man was a parable
He outright named Abraham. God is incapable of lying.
Jesus never said Lazarus and the Rich Man was a parable
He outright named Abraham. God is incapable of lying.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:39:32 No.17448415
>>17447919
And it's full of raped to death unbaptised toddlers, right? While heaven is full of repentant rapists?
And it's full of raped to death unbaptised toddlers, right? While heaven is full of repentant rapists?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:41:46 No.17448420
>>17448415
>People who have repented for their crimes cannot be considered rapists. They are made clean through His grace.
>People who have repented for their crimes cannot be considered rapists. They are made clean through His grace.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:42:53 No.17448424
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:51:04 No.17448447
>>17448424
He'll never concede this fact. He's just going to post another AI Ricky Gervais with another Christcuck dodge.
But the answer you're looking for is yes.
Unless one of the Christcuck's are going to bring up the "Limbo" fanfiction, that was taken from the Greek/Roman's Asphodel Meadows or the Jewish's Sheol.
He'll never concede this fact. He's just going to post another AI Ricky Gervais with another Christcuck dodge.
But the answer you're looking for is yes.
Unless one of the Christcuck's are going to bring up the "Limbo" fanfiction, that was taken from the Greek/Roman's Asphodel Meadows or the Jewish's Sheol.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:47:29 No.17448565
>>17448210
>Jesus never said Lazarus and the Rich Man was a parable
It’s literally a parable, you fucking retard. It also can’t possibly be true because the “man in hell” is talking directly to the “man in heaven,” which isn’t possible if heaven/hell are separate destinations. Especially since, in the traditional Christian mythology, god can’t be around sin, aka hell, which is apparently only speaking distance from god.
Also, if we’re being actually honest, the rich man is not in hell. He is in “Sheol” (or Hades, whatever). The poor man is also in “Sheol” (same place), but the ancient Jews believed good people got a nice spot in Sheol (Abraham’s Bosom), but it’s more like a separate room, not a different place. The Jews believed all humans went to the same afterlife (Sheol), and some had better spots in Sheol than others. The Jews believed in Heaven (the place god resides), but they didn’t think it was possible for a human soul to go there, ever, under any circumstance.
Hell is a Christian invention.
>Jesus never said Lazarus and the Rich Man was a parable
It’s literally a parable, you fucking retard. It also can’t possibly be true because the “man in hell” is talking directly to the “man in heaven,” which isn’t possible if heaven/hell are separate destinations. Especially since, in the traditional Christian mythology, god can’t be around sin, aka hell, which is apparently only speaking distance from god.
Also, if we’re being actually honest, the rich man is not in hell. He is in “Sheol” (or Hades, whatever). The poor man is also in “Sheol” (same place), but the ancient Jews believed good people got a nice spot in Sheol (Abraham’s Bosom), but it’s more like a separate room, not a different place. The Jews believed all humans went to the same afterlife (Sheol), and some had better spots in Sheol than others. The Jews believed in Heaven (the place god resides), but they didn’t think it was possible for a human soul to go there, ever, under any circumstance.
Hell is a Christian invention.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:50:58 No.17448578
>>17447902
It's all so tiresome... Nobody believe in your Galilean lies anon, get a life
It's all so tiresome... Nobody believe in your Galilean lies anon, get a life
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:03:14 No.17448617
>>17448447
It really depends on what brand of Christianity we’re talking about. We’ll go through some.
A baby is thrown out a window. What happens to the baby’s soul?
>Catholics
Official stance was “Limbo,” until very recently. The current stance is “The Vatican doesn’t know, but god will make the right decision” or some bullshit. Basically, co-out answer.
>Typical Evangelicals
A lot of them say there’s an “Age of Accountability” in which a sinner is not responsible for their sins. Basically, if die before like 8 years old or some shit, you automatically go to heaven because god understands you didn’t have a real chance to convert. This number is arbitrary, and I’ve seen everything from 2 to 13. There’s no real text to support this. It just feels good to Evangelicals, which is where all their theology comes from.
There’s two major issues with this. For one, where ever you set the number, there is somebody out there who just missed it. Like if the age is 8, some non-Christian died at 9 and went to hell. If he had died a few months earlier, he’d go to heaven. Seems kinda shitty. Secondly, this also means the smartest thing to do is to toss every baby out a window so they automatically go to heaven and don’t risk hell at all. It sounds absurd, but shit like this has happened. A woman in Florida drowned her sons to save them from the Rapture or some bullshit. I dunno.
Anyways, this explanation sucks all around.
>Other Protestants
Some denominations don’t believe in “Original Sin,” which eliminates most issues with the above explanations. The only problem is, once again, the most logical thing is to throw every baby out a window to escape hell.
>Calvinists
The baby was pre-destined to reject god. The baby goes to hell. He never had a chance.
I like that answer because it is the most honest. Calvinism is unironically the only branch of Christianity that makes sense. It’s a monstrous ideology, but it is at least logical.
It really depends on what brand of Christianity we’re talking about. We’ll go through some.
A baby is thrown out a window. What happens to the baby’s soul?
>Catholics
Official stance was “Limbo,” until very recently. The current stance is “The Vatican doesn’t know, but god will make the right decision” or some bullshit. Basically, co-out answer.
>Typical Evangelicals
A lot of them say there’s an “Age of Accountability” in which a sinner is not responsible for their sins. Basically, if die before like 8 years old or some shit, you automatically go to heaven because god understands you didn’t have a real chance to convert. This number is arbitrary, and I’ve seen everything from 2 to 13. There’s no real text to support this. It just feels good to Evangelicals, which is where all their theology comes from.
There’s two major issues with this. For one, where ever you set the number, there is somebody out there who just missed it. Like if the age is 8, some non-Christian died at 9 and went to hell. If he had died a few months earlier, he’d go to heaven. Seems kinda shitty. Secondly, this also means the smartest thing to do is to toss every baby out a window so they automatically go to heaven and don’t risk hell at all. It sounds absurd, but shit like this has happened. A woman in Florida drowned her sons to save them from the Rapture or some bullshit. I dunno.
Anyways, this explanation sucks all around.
>Other Protestants
Some denominations don’t believe in “Original Sin,” which eliminates most issues with the above explanations. The only problem is, once again, the most logical thing is to throw every baby out a window to escape hell.
>Calvinists
The baby was pre-destined to reject god. The baby goes to hell. He never had a chance.
I like that answer because it is the most honest. Calvinism is unironically the only branch of Christianity that makes sense. It’s a monstrous ideology, but it is at least logical.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:09:28 No.17448630
>>17447902
>Why do atheists seem to believe that Hell is just one big musical party?
Atheists believe hell doesn't exist and is a fairy tale for retards.
>Why do atheists seem to believe that Hell is just one big musical party?
Atheists believe hell doesn't exist and is a fairy tale for retards.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:27:39 No.17448670
>>17448630
Enjoy damnation
Enjoy damnation
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:29:38 No.17448678
>>17447902
>>17447919
>>17447946
what do you get out of this? seriously. what does posting your AI-slop in 0 effort "ur going to hell lel" threads every single day do for you? do you have so little going on in your life that posting these threads is a major source of enjoyment for you?
>>17447919
>>17447946
what do you get out of this? seriously. what does posting your AI-slop in 0 effort "ur going to hell lel" threads every single day do for you? do you have so little going on in your life that posting these threads is a major source of enjoyment for you?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:30:22 No.17448680
>>17448670
Yeah I'll enjoy having gay sex in hell (which is much bettter than boring heaven)
Yeah I'll enjoy having gay sex in hell (which is much bettter than boring heaven)
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:41:42 No.17448703
>>17448670
Damnation alongside all the raped to death unbaptised toddlers, yes?
Damnation alongside all the raped to death unbaptised toddlers, yes?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:43:11 No.17448706
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:46:34 No.17448708
>>17448706
The toddlers who are as we speak burning in hellfire for being raped to death without being baptised?
The toddlers who are as we speak burning in hellfire for being raped to death without being baptised?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:54:22 No.17448725
>>17448706
>Stop obsessing over <thing>, freak.
Literally what the wokies say about lgbt subversiveness.
>Stop obsessing over <thing>, freak.
Literally what the wokies say about lgbt subversiveness.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:59:40 No.17448742
>>17448725
The irony of course being if he wasn't patently a ragebait LARPER, he would proudly say with his whole chest "Yes, unbaptised toddlers go to hell, as they are born in sin as we all are. This is what Christians believe and why baptism is so important to us". But, he isn't, so he doesn't.
The irony of course being if he wasn't patently a ragebait LARPER, he would proudly say with his whole chest "Yes, unbaptised toddlers go to hell, as they are born in sin as we all are. This is what Christians believe and why baptism is so important to us". But, he isn't, so he doesn't.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)02:42:15 No.17449188
>>17448565
If that is true, then Jesus lied about Abraham talking to the rich man.
Which IS impossible because God is infinite, incapable of change, and can only speak the truth
Stop trying to bend the scriptures to your favor, heretic. Hell is real and goats do end up there
If that is true, then Jesus lied about Abraham talking to the rich man.
Which IS impossible because God is infinite, incapable of change, and can only speak the truth
Stop trying to bend the scriptures to your favor, heretic. Hell is real and goats do end up there
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:15:28 No.17449981
>>17447902
Because their souls are broken
Because their souls are broken
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:31:24 No.17450026
>>17447919
Hell literally doesnt exist; it doesn't truly exist even in Christian mythos. Hell is the self inflicted spiritual death caused by apostasy to God.
The word 'Hell' is an abbrevation of Hellheim.
Hell literally doesnt exist; it doesn't truly exist even in Christian mythos. Hell is the self inflicted spiritual death caused by apostasy to God.
The word 'Hell' is an abbrevation of Hellheim.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:33:46 No.17450035
>>17450026
Mat 13:49-50 "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, (50) and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
So where is the great furnace of fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth?
Mat 13:49-50 "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, (50) and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
So where is the great furnace of fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:35:17 No.17450041
>>17450035
>quoting parables again
Imagine pretending to be a christian when confirmed atheists know 'your' religion better than you
>quoting parables again
Imagine pretending to be a christian when confirmed atheists know 'your' religion better than you
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:38:13 No.17450050
>>17450041
Was the 40 days and nights of fasting in the desert and being tempted by the devil 3 times during the Temptation of Christ also a parable?
Was the 40 days and nights of fasting in the desert and being tempted by the devil 3 times during the Temptation of Christ also a parable?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:55:28 No.17450243
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:58:31 No.17450248
>>17450243
Lying is a rejection of the truth. God cannot reject himself. That's only for us
Lying is a rejection of the truth. God cannot reject himself. That's only for us
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:13:18 No.17450857
>>17449188
>If that is true, then Jesus lied about Abraham talking to the rich man.
It’s called a parable you fucking retard. It’s a story with a moral. That doesn’t make it a “lie.” Dipshit.
>If that is true, then Jesus lied about Abraham talking to the rich man.
It’s called a parable you fucking retard. It’s a story with a moral. That doesn’t make it a “lie.” Dipshit.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:56:16 No.17450950
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:08:44 No.17450977
>>17448420
The entire premise of repenting is fucking stupid, since an all-knowing being would already know if they were going to repent, so based on that, they could have done literally anything, and even died before repentance, and still "G*d" would have known they were going to, so would have let them in regardless. Abrahamism is a shit-show of retarded ass-pulls and skewed logic that just doesn't make the cut. You have more consistency in Hinduism, or Asherahism.
The entire premise of repenting is fucking stupid, since an all-knowing being would already know if they were going to repent, so based on that, they could have done literally anything, and even died before repentance, and still "G*d" would have known they were going to, so would have let them in regardless. Abrahamism is a shit-show of retarded ass-pulls and skewed logic that just doesn't make the cut. You have more consistency in Hinduism, or Asherahism.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:23:29 No.17451016
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:30:44 No.17451035
>>17451016
He can't
God is infinite. Unchanging, eternal, no beginning, no end.
He. Cannot. Change
What you saw of him once, you will see for all eternity
He can't
God is infinite. Unchanging, eternal, no beginning, no end.
He. Cannot. Change
What you saw of him once, you will see for all eternity
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:33:09 No.17451041
>>17450050
That one wasn't
That one wasn't
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:40:33 No.17451055
>>17450035
I mean 'weeping and gnashing of teeth' could really imply a lot of different things.
It could be a holding period where the sinful see God, feel bad for not following Him, and are eventually saved.
Or it could be a purgatory without punishment, or being sent (eventually) to non-existence
I mean 'weeping and gnashing of teeth' could really imply a lot of different things.
It could be a holding period where the sinful see God, feel bad for not following Him, and are eventually saved.
Or it could be a purgatory without punishment, or being sent (eventually) to non-existence
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:44:54 No.17451066
>>17448617
You know what would make some sense? If people who were never exposed to Christianity before death re-incarnated.
I mean, that would mean the children dead wouldn't go to hell, but also wouldn't mean that killing infants would be in any way morally righteous. Since in this case infanticide wouldn't save a baby from hell, just put them back in the system until they die as either a Christian or a Non-believer.
It might also explain the prevalence of the belief of reincarnation across Asia.
Maybe, since they never had a chance to adopt the Christian mindset, they did reincarnate.
And God, of course, is powerful enough to reincarnate whoever he wants to reincarnate.
You know what would make some sense? If people who were never exposed to Christianity before death re-incarnated.
I mean, that would mean the children dead wouldn't go to hell, but also wouldn't mean that killing infants would be in any way morally righteous. Since in this case infanticide wouldn't save a baby from hell, just put them back in the system until they die as either a Christian or a Non-believer.
It might also explain the prevalence of the belief of reincarnation across Asia.
Maybe, since they never had a chance to adopt the Christian mindset, they did reincarnate.
And God, of course, is powerful enough to reincarnate whoever he wants to reincarnate.