Why historically were the Celts so romanticized?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)00:45:33 | 68 comments | 6 images
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Since the 19th century they’re often thought of as some sort of peaceful matriarchal nature-loving society before le evil Romans, Germanics, and Christianity arrived and wiped them out.

They’re also often a common basis in the fantasy genre, at least the Tolkienesque stuff. Whenever I think of Welsh, I think of dragons and knights, and when I think of Gaelic, I think of mermaids and fairies.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)00:47:36 No.17446699
Simply because their culture doesn't exist anymore to instantly disprove anyone's fanfics about it, you actually need to put some effort into it
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)00:49:58 No.17446701
>>17446697
there’s also the idea that the celts were full of sexy redhead muscle mommy warriors
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)02:07:50 No.17446752
>>17446697
>>17446699
^This + Typical “Retvrn” narrative that Europeans have lost their roots/traditions/connection to nature and thus must pine for a Golden Age
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)02:09:44 No.17446755
Are you going to provide a shred of evidence that celts were romanticized or are you just relying on the board's resident mentally ill haplojeets to back you up
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)03:17:09 No.17446830
>>17446755
why are whites so mindbroken by the fact they are our descendants
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)03:18:21 No.17446832
>>17446830
I don't think any haplojeet spamming genetic pivot tables has kids
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)04:37:45 No.17446912
20250115_133354
>>17446697
>matriarchal
Correct
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)04:40:11 No.17446914
noble savage myths have always been pervasive
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)12:54:53 No.17447767
>>17446697
what even is unique about the Celtic mythicism that couldn't already be attributed to the ancient greeks/romans, germanics, or middle ages in general?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)12:57:51 No.17447770
>>17446697
The closest thing I can think of regarding any kind of romanticism of such groups was that one statue of a dying Gaul or whatever.
Anyway, they're romanticized because they're white, despite the fact they were pillagers and rapists unfortunately. All the evidence points to this unfortunate reality and the celtic peoples were historically notoriously backwards. Tolkien needed to create a mythology for his peoples background to hide that shame.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:02:16 No.17447778
>>17447770
>>17446697
Tolkien did not like Celtic mythology, retards.

Also, I doubt what the Romans had to say on the Celts was entirely true.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:05:00 No.17447781
I think Iolo Morganwg has a lot to blame. Celtic culture was rejuvenated, given fun colour schemes, festivals and rituals that don't really have any root in original Celt culture. I thank the lord every day that I narrowly escaped being named after the man.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:06:59 No.17447785
>>17446697
Celtic people are self-obsessed

Scotch-irish are the most annoying people on the planet, with the sole exception of jeets.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:07:46 No.17447787
>>17446697
I love Celtic women
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:31:52 No.17447831
>>17446912
You're obsessed. Kys
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:42:24 No.17447848
>>17446697
>I
>I
>I
So it's just you
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:57:25 No.17447883
>>17447770
>despite the fact they were pillagers and rapists unfortunately.
who wasn't back in ancient times?
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)13:59:15 No.17447890
>>17447883
Black men
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:02:48 No.17447895
>>17447890
and that is exactly why they got mogged by whitey
it's killed or be killed
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:37:18 No.17447977
>>17446697
Everyone in Western Europe is descended from them, little is known about them, perfect prelapsarian LARP ingredients to project whatever you want onto.
I find Celt LARP retardation is stronger outside of Ireland and Wales that take it as more normal grounded medieval history. Nowhere is it stronger than North America, but it’s also very strong in France, England and Scotland.
t. Irishman in Canada
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)14:40:25 No.17447987
>>17447883
I don't think you understand just how violent and insane the celts were. The romans themselves regarded them as barbarians!
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)15:23:42 No.17448061
>>17447987
>The romans themselves regarded them as barbarians!
Famously a hard title to earn from the Romans
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)15:27:17 No.17448068
>>17447987
bold statement coming from the romans themselves
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)16:46:36 No.17448185
>>17446697
Gotta love how the collage includes a close up of female feet
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)17:42:00 No.17448292
celts have nothing to do with stonehenge
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)17:47:00 No.17448297
>>17448292
They do but in the same sense Italians have anything to do with the colosseum
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:46:59 No.17448434
>>17448297
Fantastically bad analogy. Abandoning it to decay for several centuries is not the same as coming from overseas and having no idea what it was and who built it.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)18:50:47 No.17448445
>>17448434
But they (Britons) built it, they just forgot.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:29:58 No.17448523
They were massively misunderstood by historians for centuries, and remain massively misunderstood by the wider public to this day.

Just look at your image.
>Divining by way of runestones (Celts actually divined by observing natural phenomena, and in rare cases by disemboweling a slave and observing the movements of his entrails)
>Bare feet, naked women (Celts were actually known for their vanity, for their love of intricate colorful clothes and elaborate jewelry)
>Stonehenge (Celts didn't build the stone circles of Britain, and never used existing ones either; their places of worship were groves and sanctuaries, not stone circles)
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:33:42 No.17448533
>>17448445
The Celts in Britain were the descendants of the Bell Beaker people, who genetically replaced the builders of Stonehenge.
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:36:18 No.17448536
>>17448533
The Celts barely made a dent in the gene pool of Britain though
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:37:59 No.17448539
>>17447987
meanwhile romans:
>corrupt dictators
>civil war every 5-10 years or so
>slavery
>torture
>love for war
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:38:43 No.17448540
Interesting facts
1. It was unknown until the 18th century that Gaels or Britons were Celtic
2. It was unknown until the 18th century that Gaels or Britons were related
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)19:53:24 No.17448592
>>17448536
That is relative to the post-Neolithic population. That is:

1. There were hunter-gatherers in Britain (population 1).
2. The hunter-gatherers were replaced by farmers migrating in from continental Europe (population 2). These people built Stonehenge and other stone monuments.
3. The farmers were replaced by Bell Beaker people in the early Bronze Age (population 3).
4. The Bell Beaker people were added to by small amounts of continental Celtic migrants (population 4).
5. The Romans had practically no effect on the genetic makeup of the British Isles.
6. The Anglo-Saxons (population 5) almost entirely replaced the male lines of population 3-4 in eastern and southeastern England, though less so further west.
7. The Danes (population 6) had a small effect on the overall male lines in Britain, though in some places (Orkney, the Hebrides, York, Northumbria, et cetera) this effect was locally significant.

Anyway, to put it simply, Stonehenge was built by population 2, while the Celts were mostly population 3 and some population 4 (but no relation to population 2).
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)20:34:24 No.17448690
a-killarney-peasant-girl-ireland-1912-artist-unknown-MPN977
>>17448523
Celts went barefoot well into the XXth century
You can even find references to them going barefoot in Shakespeare
Anonymous 01/21/25(Tue)23:28:44 No.17449016
>>17446697
IIRC, it began with the Romans coping with the fact that a Gaulish tribe sacked Rome. It’s easier to accept that you got your ass fucked if you say to yourself that the guy who did it was a badass savage who anyone would have lost to.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)03:32:30 No.17449240
>>17446697
The Celts are the direct ancestors of some of the most powerful nations of the world : France, Germany, England.

That's why.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)04:19:45 No.17449282
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)07:18:36 No.17449435
>>17449240
Not a single person gives a shit about the Celts in Germany.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:14:27 No.17449502
>>17449435
how come?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)08:40:19 No.17449542
>>17446830
>Anyone with brown eyes is apart of “our” group
Imagine getting so buckbroken you have to larp as extinct upper Paleolithic tribes to get one over on “Whites”.
Also this is done alongside the
>Whites didn’t exist, these people had brown eyes and brown skin

Yes. PreWhite humanity saw violent subhumans attacking violent subhumans. From this Whites evolved and ascended. You remain a violent subhuman who couldn’t compete physically with Whites so you speak our language and now because you can not compete sexually you try to insult the honor of Whites while simultaneously hoping your kids are Whiter than you.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)09:24:13 No.17449616
>>17446697
>They’re also often a common basis in the fantasy genre, at least the Tolkienesque stuff. Whenever I think of Welsh, I think of dragons and knights, and when I think of Gaelic, I think of mermaids and fairies.

Because they're pretty much the only non-Roman/Greek European cultures that wrote down their own pre-Christian sagas and myths in their own languages without adapting them in a Christian lense. Germanic myths are basically all reconstructed or written by Christians in a way amenable to Christianity (ragnarok is literally a Christian concept of apocalypse which does not exist in indigenous IE mythology) and we know nothing about their origin myths compared to the Welsh and Irish. Nothing is known about Slavic or Baltic religion or belief from before the modern period or what survived in peasant folk belief.

The volume of Old Irish mythological texts written in the language, at a very early period (500-900AD) and set in the pre-Christian historical era is staggering compared to any other Iron Age/Medieval vernacular language. Myths and sagas from other European cultures were either repressed with Christianity or destroyed (eg only one manuscript of Beowulf survived Henry VIII's destruction of the monasteries). In Ireland specifically Latin never replaced Old Irish as the elite/prestige language so people saw no need to write texts only in Latin and to only copy existing Latin manuscripts. They also didn't see themselves as heirs to Rome and so they didn't feel the need to LARP as Greco-Romans and only reproduce Roman and Greek literature like the French, Germans, Spaniards etc did.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:17:39 No.17449733
>>17449502
Imagine living in a country literally called "GERMANY" and caring about the Celts. Most people are actually totally unaware of their Celtic origin.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:32:27 No.17449765
>>17449616
>nd set in the pre-Christian historical era is staggering compared to any other Iron Age/Medieval vernacular language.
no it isnt theres not much
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)10:33:28 No.17449769
>>17449616
>In Ireland specifically Latin never replaced Old Irish as the elite/prestige language so people saw no need to write texts only in Latin a
Saint Columba spoke in Latin to people in Scotland
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:18:01 No.17449852
>>17449616
Is that why the Christian-pagan dialect focuses on Germanic paganism (the controlled opposition?) to keep them on the reservation?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)11:45:09 No.17449908
irishlarp2
Because the irish, despite converting to christianity before the anglo saxons and doing it pretty much wholeheartedly without any resistance, and despite cutting down their forests in the bronze age love LARPing as native american hippies who were christianised by the evil english
the biggest LARP in history
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:19:41 No.17449989
>>17449908
Source: Irish Americans on Facebook
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:27:56 No.17450017
>>17448690
>Celts
>XXth century
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)12:30:26 No.17450022
celtic_nations5-1-1200x1200
>>17450017
I fail to see the issue?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:02:54 No.17450111
Perhaps for similar reasons that people romanticize Native Americans, Māori, and other groups.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:19:58 No.17450148
Part of the reason is they were everywhere.
Their priest class was also intentionally secretive.
They didn't write much down.
So they were known as like the magicians by others.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:21:42 No.17450154
>>17450148
Yeah they were like the European zoroastrians almost.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:39:42 No.17450206
>>17449908
>cutting down their forests in the bronze age
Uh no
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)13:41:56 No.17450210
>>17446697
if people read their folklore they'd be romantized even more
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:14:56 No.17450318
>>17450022
England, France, and Spain should be on there too.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:17:26 No.17450331
>>17450318
iirc, they have a requirement to keep a gaelic-like language, which spain doesn't have for example
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:17:48 No.17450335
>>17448539
also buttrape boys
this is more civilized than the rus, who buttrape eachother. i don't understand why russians nor chechnyans are so obssessed with assraping eachothe rbut they are.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:30:09 No.17450387
>>17450318
Galicia will never be Celtic, Pedro
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:31:05 No.17450390
>>17450387
not saying it is, but it is commonly invited to pan-celtic gatherings
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:38:02 No.17450415
CelticEurope
>>17450387
I'm not Spanish.
I just want England, France, and Spain to allowed into the Celtic "club" to spite the Scots, Welsh, and Irish.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:45:50 No.17450440
>>17450390
It shouldn’t be, at this point they’re convincing the rest of Spain that Galician is a Celtic language and giving them the idea that Irish is some dialect of Portuguese.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)14:49:32 No.17450455
>>17450440
>It shouldn’t be
too bad, 4 u
>at this point they’re convincing the rest of Spain that Galician is a Celtic language
are they really doing that? first time hearing this
>and giving them the idea that Irish is some dialect of Portuguese.
lol wtf?
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:27:47 No.17450757
>>17450415
>Sacred bull
The king or earl was a bull
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)16:30:03 No.17450763
>>17450415
Okay but you have aids
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:21:38 No.17450873
>>17450455
Yes, at this point I have met multiple Spanish people that think Celtic = like Galician. The LARP has gone too far.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)17:33:37 No.17450895
573679_original
>>17448690
It's not a Celtic thing, it's a woman thing. European women went barefoot everywhere from Iceland to Malta.
Anonymous 01/22/25(Wed)18:49:04 No.17451076
>>17450763
>Okay but you have aids
I don't.