>>103986033
one that breaks even more often

one that catches on fire if you look at it wrong

>>103986071
>>103986084
Who hurt you?

one that integrates decent tumble dryer in it that doesnt take 3h to dry 5kg of clothes and costs less than 3k €

>>103986112
sorry i need a washing machine with atleast 8L capacity not a chinese childrens toy

Add a waifu cycle

>>103986033
the question is what do you feel that they lack?
>>103986112
that may be useful in a road trip
>>103986159
they are already starting to make personal cleaning machines, i think i read about it like one or two month ago. Would be neat for eldery and cripples
think it was in japan

how are you supposed to move something thats an egg shape like that, like those stupid heavy egg smokers
those are expensive and premium feeling for a reason because theres much more labor that goes into owning it that the owners dont have to do themselves they pay for it

>>103986212
yeah, moving a washing machine is pretty much the most difficult item when moving house

>>103986196
>>103986033
>the question is what do you feel that they lack?
Agential loading, starting with the dryer as it's easier then the washer. The current primary step to remove is the human folding of clothes, and current agential robotics are getting good enough at least in lab that it's starting to be plausible for home use, albeit in the luxury market only. This is what I think it's likely to look like in practice

Users will purchase a basket from a manufacturer with several arms and a previsualization stage and postfolding stage, something like pic related.

You will hook up to visual sensors to do a combination of spot treatment and machine insertion and retrieval, then fold final garments in a pre-defined stack. Clothing will then be stored in the clothin basin after folding until the basin is full, at which point the user empties the basin before the robot continues.

>>103986196
>they are already starting to make personal cleaning machines
Like the Jestons?

>>103986159
Its a recursive washing machine.

>>103986196
>the question is what do you feel that they lack?
I think the current trend is to make them where they use less water and use less electricity, so maybe continuing on the line. Could also make improvements in portability. Maybe even directly solar powered

>>103986033
You just posted it (top left, specifically)

>>103986112
At this point just wash the shit in the fucking sink

>>103986146
>>103986438
Ok so go bigger. That one was a mini

>>103986071
yes, and requires software updates.
oh and a monthly subscription to use different cycles, bleach, fabric softener, and hot water. dont forget to install FUCKLOADS of data harvesting, a microphone, and a camera. also it requires to be connected to the internet 24/7 and the only way to use it is through an smortphone app that runs on a proprietary cloud server and you have to give it all your personal information and credit card info.

>>103986609
The fact that you fill it in the sink is the problem. Just use the fucking sink and skip the steps. Put the agitator directly in the fucking sink.

>>103986033

The same as now except they break sooner - same as the future for all products

>>103986653
Could have just used a hose that routes into the shower instead of putting the whole fucking thing in there.

>>103986718
Sounds like you want one of these

>>103986770
Huh?

>>103986810
Bitch has a 5 person shower, her house's actual laundry is probably larger than my whole apartment.

>>103986609
this is for dirty apartment living where you have roommates youre out of sync with or the real washer dryer is broke all the time

>>103986033
I think self dosing as in you pour a bottle of detergent, bleach and softener into it and it releases just what it needs, at first...
Then you have propietary detergent cardtriges with a chip and your machine will not work without the right ones, and if one is running low it will refuse to wash even if you're not gonna use it, then they sell you a subscription for a monthly fee, etc...

>>103987145
Man this thread is all doom and gloom. What do you WANT to see happen?

Do thirdies really?

>>103987176
I want to see the oligarchs burn alive

Speed Queen TC series is basically the best tank of a washer you can buy.

>>103987176
"doom and gloom" aka not being a stupid futurist who thinks a post-scarcity world is coming where the designs will be dictated by ANYTHING other than profitability. Like we've already done this song and dance you're not getting your flying cars

>>103987419
Can I flip it over and inexpensively service it myself like I can a 30 year old maytag?

>>103986159
>Combination washing machine/dishwasher
How innovative.

>>103986033
Outdoor laundromats

>>103986033
in-unit cameras looking for specific weave patterns for "ai" detection
more effective coil self-cleaning
more app integration

>>103987661
>in-unit cameras looking for specific weave patterns for "ai" detection
What would be the point of that?

>>103987679
targeting light/medium/heavy clothes for strong/gentle washing, plus whites vs coloreds for chemical dispensing

>>103986033
the crank ones didn't centrifuge, they squeezed, there were motorized versions but they became infamous for breaking childrens hands

>>103987679
So you don't fuck up your linens, super retard.

>>103987567
It's not negative, it's what has happened every single time ever and what will continue to happen for the entire forseeable future.

washer + drier + folding mechanism

>>103987781
I'm not a housewife so don't get cranky with me, lest you see the back of my hand

>>103987863
folding would be a huge advancement but I don't see it working very well.

>>103987932
>*Drops petunia petals and other plant matter into your laundry*
Nothing personel

>>103987949
We're getting there

>>103986033
AI, DRM and microtransactions with blockchain

>>103987949
what if we as a society agreed that having crinkly clothes is fine so we can all save time folding clothes

>>103988189
hey I just buy wrinkle free and make sure I'm around to hang them when the dryer cycle finishes

>>103988189
Careful, that's how you end up with another Ohio

>>103986112
Temu-tastic!
>>103986609
This looks fucking exhausting. Nobody would use this over a normal machine. The thing you need to remember is that when it comes to technology, convenience always wins out. If you try to release a product that requires more effort to use than what came before it, it's doomed to fail, no matter how hard you try to justify it.

>>103986033
Synthetic clothing that never stains or gets dirty/smelly, down side is we find out 5 years later it gives you eyeball cancer.

>>103988204
>Nobody would use this over a normal machine.
That's not the point. It's for people who don't have a choice.
>move into a crappy apartment with no laundry
>landlord tells you there's a laundromat down this shady looking street
Better to have one of these portables

>>103987176
>filename
That's pretty obviously a dryer.

>>103988248
Technology that persuades people it's ok to live in a shithole should not be encouraged.

>>103988301
>living within your means like a responsible adult is bad
The portable washer things are dumb, but also you should kill yourself.

>>103988301
Feel free to get all of the single women of the world new living quarters at your own expense and then dazzle them with your knowledge of technology

>>103986653
>>103986810
What's the best version of one of these? We have a Washer and a Dryer in the basement, but sometimes I'd like to just do small loads in our upstairs Bathroom. Think Socks and Underwear and the occasional shirt and towel. I don't need to or like going down into the basement to do large loads.
Also does anybody have experience with these? >>103987932
I think there's still something like this in our old cottage. And we passed up on getting another one from my wife's family. They just weighed too much for something that it didn't seem like we'd ever use. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake and also is the antique in the cottage worth trying to use.

Let me guess. You need more

>>103988301
*inherits apple product in an unknown country*

>>103988427
Costway, Giantex and Auertech see to all have good reviews
>Also does anybody have experience with these? >>103987932 (You)
Vintage machines will likely use more water so keep that in mind.

>>103986159
will my arthoe oneitis will she become a tradwife after the wash cycle

>>103986112
>washed their nails off
now THAT'S power

>>103988301
i dont have forever license in whatever country your living and my iq points is 20+ higher than yours

>>103988320
It's not about being a responsible adult you mongoloid. It's about the way the 1% has increasingly shat on the general populace over the last 30+ years, forcing them to live in smaller and smaller apartments while jacking up the price, widening the massive class divide. You might as well follow the WEF "You will eat the bugs and own nothing and you will be happy" mantra. Technology like this encourages the idea that this continued dogshit treatment of people is ok, and not something that should be fought against.

>>103988720
Banning cheap crap will not magically end class conflict, you absolute fucking midwit.

Nowadays the latest features from washing machine are smart cycles, smart dispensing, AI wash configuration/detection, and steam cycles. No I have no idea how it works but rich housewives love that shit.

t. retail slave

>>103988574
It will help her to clean up her act

>>103988735
I didn't say it should be banned, I said it shouldn't be encouraged. Learn to read.

>>103988766
How else would you get people to stop buying cheap crap, then? Free Electrolux sets?

>>103988795
I think you were missing my point. People in small environments should simply wash things in the sink, or some other basic way. Not by buying this cheap crap under the pretense of making your life easier when it's barely any more convenient. By buying products like these you're effectively rewarding the normalisation of peasant living. Let these products fail and die.

>>103986112
Have one of these and it is trash.

>>103988927
You seem out of touch.

>>103988927
>Let these products fail and die.
If the products suck, people will stop buying them. Poors are stupid, but they aren't THAT stupid.

>>103989036
The stupidity of people can NEVER be underestimated. Tens of millions of Americans actually voted for Kamala Harris to be president. There is no bottom.

>>103989046
>Tens of millions of Americans actually voted for Kamala Harris to be president.
Voter turnout was actually extremely low for the Democrats. They saw their options and stayed the fuck home for once.

>>103986112
What a fucking waste. The natives used every part of the washing machine. They'd have been brewing coffee and boiling noodles with the runoff, not pouring it out like a wasteful piece o' shit.

>>103986718
>Just use the fucking sink and skip the steps.
>Just do arduous manual labor
wagie mindset

>>103989055
You say that like it in any way diminishes my point. Voter turnout regardless, tens of millions still voted for her. Still well over 40% of the vote. That's how dumb people are.

>>103988009
fuck i need one

>>103989077
What did you think would happen? You can be a literal turd on a plate and still get at least 40% of the vote if you're a first party candidate. That is how American politics work.

What about smaller Refrigerators? I'm looking for something with a capacity around 7.5 cubic feet.
I'd prefer a freezer on the bottom, but we're lucky that smaller refrigerators are just starting to become in the thing in the United States.

>>103989212
Why would the freezer be at the bottom? That would cause it to use more energy to cool the entire unit.

>>103989212
Go to the store and only order the dented fridges/freezers save you the money there all roughly the same with the exception of Samsung being trash.

>>103986609
we had those in latam in the 90s, they were trash

>>103989285
>exception of Samsung being trash
Add to the list Whirlpool.
Don't buy anything Whirlpool ever.

>>103989263
Heat rises, so shouldn't the freezer on the bottom be a good thing? Really I just want it because I hate having to squat down to use half the fridge.

>>103989336
The only reason them, speed queen and maytag still exist on the market is the cost of replaceable parts. Although I work veer towards a maytag the reality is part replacement can be done by myself.

>>103989351
>Heat rises
Nigga what? There's nothing generating heat in your fridge. Cold air comes out of the cooling unit in the freezer and gravity lets it fall into the fridge. When the freezer is to the side or in your request, the bottom, it takes more energy to push the cool air around to occupy the other spaces. That means a higher electric bill

>>103988847
Did they remove the counterweights or something stupid for updoots?

>>103986033
Probably ones with more IoT shit that are more efficient but dont work as well and are ruin your clothes.

>>103986159
Retarded fucking whore is causing damage to that machine just to get TikTok views. That dumb bitch is obviously a lot heavier than the max load of the machine.

>>103986033
>less power usage
>smaller in size
That's it.

>>103986810
How is it powered thought? What the fuck.

>>103986260
Approved

>>103986033
One with subscription.

>>103988320
In my poor eastern european country it would be unthinkable to offer a place to rent that does not have a washing machine
Once I lived in a 15 square meter one that still came with one.

>>103989074
Illiterate nigger.

>>103988189
ironing was necessary in a time to kill parasites and disinfect. that is not necessary anymore but we keep with stupid standards.
its also the same for moping every day or every other day, we dont have dusty carbon air anymore for needing that but people kept doing it and now we have a standard of cleanness absurdly high that is making the kids allergic to basic shit
>>103988204
eh i would kinda have one in my last place, just to clean a few items like when i do workouts, the washing machine was absurdly big and slow. not even putting all my clothes could fill it

>>103986033
High flow washing machines

>>103991597
No clue about the parasites but its entirely due to linen cotton clothes needing to be ironed out for there wrinkles. All clothes now are a mix of material or there produced in such as way that reduces / removes wrinkles entirely. Mopping everyday is entirely personnel preference but once a week is more then enough for most people.

>>103989263
Most refrigerators and freezers use separate cooling systems these days. As other anons have mentioned, the point of having the freezer on the bottom is to put the refrigerated part higher up so more of it is at eye level and accessible to most users. You pull things out of the freezer far less than out of the refrigerator section so it being at squat level doesn't matter.

>>103987530
Yup.

No weird unserviceable circuit boards with DRM chips and such. (although there is a circuit board now, to meet some federal regs. It is big discrete components any idiot with a soldering iron can fix, assuming anything ever goes bad).

Has one hell of a suspension system for the drum.

>>103986033
Dyson had a design with a split cylinder, rotating in opposite directions. It worked better than traditional washing machines, but the cost was too high, and that is even for a Dyson machine.
There are other things you could do, such as using a heat exchanger to keep the rinse temperatures high. That way you dissolve and fluch out a lot more of the dirt. You could try this yourself: let the water from the last rince cycle go into a bucket and just look at this. Do you think it looks clean? Or is it even remotely drinkable? Definitely not.
Another issue is the detergents. You get one detergent to handle all kinds of dirt. It might be more useful with different detergents for the first and the second cycle. After all, removing proteins is very different from removing fat.

Another solution that has been tried, is to cycle the water continuously through a reverse osmosis filter. It turns out this is so effective you don't even need a detergent. I am a bit sceptical about bacteria, but combining this with a hot cycle would work well. This also gets rid of the microplastic problem people are talkign about. Of course, strictly speaking, there is very little microplastic from clothing compared to road dirt, the only real difference is that the government wants to shipt all burdens to the public. I just pour the water into my compost heap and let the bacteria and fungus digest the fibers.

There are even more radical solutions such as "Fog Gun" invented by Buckminster Fuller. The invention is old, nearly 100 years, it is known to work but it is still not in use. As is often the case with technology, stagnation sets in quickly and is maintained until one guy comes along and upsets everything.

>>103988320
>The portable washer things are dumb
How so? It's a proper washer, just a bit smaller.

>>103992392
>Dyson had a design with a split cylinder, rotating in opposite directions.
i just looked for it, cool concept, terrible aestetic design, that shit wont have woman approval
>such as using a heat exchanger to keep the rinse temperatures high.
as far i know this is already done where high efficiency is wanted

you don't need a washing machine when there's already a woman. they can use their hands to wash clothes, and after wards you give them a load of your own and they swirl it in their

We just need to get a better technology that "waste energy to generate heat." Let's get rid of "boiling water to generate energy" while we're at it.

>>103992508
People with the most heavily soiled clothes who also don't care about aesthetics would be blue collar men. That washing machine could have been a slamdunk with the blue collar market segment but that group isn't willing to pay a high premium for the Dyson name.
>>103987176
With a bit more effort, they could make pic related happen. For public laundromats, the top row would be too high, but for commercial service uses, it would be a nice space saver.

>>103987419
Now that word has gotten out to normies, big box stores are selling them, which means the company is going to be pressured to create cheaper models for sale in those stores.

>>103987567
Man, you really got me with that jump scare.

>>103993372
>blue collar men
my personal experience most of them would just buy the cheapest machine they could get and use the most terrible but fast program. then wonder why it works like shit and breaks fast

>>103986810
is that showed 1.8m wide? looks like 3x 600mm tiles to me

why do all Temu videos have women with ghetto fingernails?

>>103986112
lmao this is so obviously fake

>>103986653
dude my machine is a washer + dryer and it's smaller than that

>>103987176
elon musk and trump quartered

>>103986228
>Agential loading
more like...genital loading
eheheheeeheh

>>103991597
>moping every day or every other day
People actually have time for that shit? It is like "spring cleaning" tier for me to actually bother busting out the mop.

>>103993559
So, yet another self declared expert deermined not to read the manual, got it.

>>103994310
well he didn't say he didn't fix the issue. the fact he mentioned the first use specifically would suggest subsequent attempts fared better

>>103994310
>>103994355
i obviously stopped it immediately and fixed it

>>103986033
My asian friend had this in his bathroom.
It's tiny so he did laundry every single day

for the climates sake, one that doesn't rely on water, detergent or electricity to function

>>103993485
If that was my wife I'd bring out the scissors. Bitch is paying good money to not do work around the house.

>>103993537
I want to see you get professional help with medication.

>>103993537
Quartering government agents is unconstitutional.

>>103993537
Do you mean drawn and quartered

>>103993559
You unscrew the feet until it's level. Why are computer nerds so incompetent with basic tasks?

>>103995815
ESL-kun please

>>103995850
Oh you mean in the hunting sense, as in skinned and quartered.

>>103986144
That already exists.

>>103993527
Heatpump or condenser?

>>103986033
Spheres?

>>103987176
Democrat party classified as a terrorist organization

>>103988427
A modern Speed Queen TR-7

>>103986112
just wash it in the toilet.

>>103994749
He had what?

We should be able to reuse the water from the machine. Imagine if it went through some purification process right at your house

>>103992644
Machines make them happy

>>103994355
Exactly, it’s implied. If the issue wasn’t fixed, it’d be front and center. No point in hyper-focusing on the initial hiccup when the follow-up likely resolved it. Let’s not hack apart the guy’s story for no reason.

>>103998186
Based
How many of them have encouraged political violence and then blamed their opposing party for it. They're disgusting.

>>104000339
what

>>104001211
He's never seen a woman without makeup

Shit my last message didn't get posted.
Too long to rewrite, but basically, reparability and "full control" are more important for me than look or speed.

>>103999959
Wtf.
I won't even save this one...
Also, I was wondering, do you, US citizens, do laundry every day?
Because when I used a US washing machine in Canada, I barely had enough to make it work with 1 week of clothes.
And I'm a big guy with big clothes.
Also, didn't these vertical cylinders things use way more water?

>>104001538
I've always done laundry once a week. Seems like a good cadence.

>>103988204
No one should buy a machine that cost 1000 or more just to clean clothes that aren’t dirty from every day usage.

>>103986033
Do these faggots really not know that hoses exist?

>>103987419
Same machine? >>103999959
>>104001538
For them I think it depends on the family. Had a friend whose wife did laundry 4 times a week for the entire household (couple plus kids).

>>104001211
>>104001231
fucking newfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ljOcl39PQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZfyrIPw3wY

>>104001646
You wash with just a hose?

>>103986033
Well considering modern washing machines make the clothes smell worse than before washing. The next step would be to have the machine add stains. Maybe machines could come with an extra slot in the detergent draw that accepts wine or similar liquid.

>>104002065
>Well considering modern washing machines make the clothes smell worse than before washing.
You're doing it wrong

>>103987863
and apartment friendly (doesnt require exhaust)

>>104002005
bubbly soap is ai now
maybe I should dump my ai etfs

>>104001734
haven't seen that in a while. didn't recognise the quote because i'm terrible with black american accents, i couldn't really understand him

>>104002118
Yes, lets mask the smell of the rot. It was good enough in medieval times, so its good enough now.

Modern washing machines don't clean properly because they don't use any water. Bacteria and mold also builds up inside the machine since it does not use water. It just slightly dampens the clothes. You have to run 90C service washes constantly to keep the thing even remotely clean, in the end it uses more energy than if it just cleaned the clothes properly in the first place.

>>104002307
There are extra rinse options or more water options with some of them. Mine works just fine and gets them soaked, the extra rinse does help. Baking soda also aids in the cleaning process if you are having issues with stains sticking.

>>104002307
>Modern washing machines don't clean properly because they don't use any water.
Just use another model then. There are a ton of "modern" washing machines that aren't actually modern.

>>104002307
Why you trippin' nigga? Get your fresh on

>>104002418
Its not legal for modern washing machines to work. The government has mandated efficiency requirements. And the governments definition of efficiency is just uses less energy, but with no consideration for actual function.

>>104002521
Masking filth != cleaning. If I mixed perfume into shit, would that make the shit clean?

>>104002540
Let Jesus take the wheel

>>104002554
why did she drop the whole cup in there

>>104002552
Everything you're telling me sounds like a skill issue and now you're blaming the government.

buy better detergent
pause the wash midway and just let it soak
try adding vinegar to the cycle
use bleach for whites

cant afford a speedqueen so maytag or whirlpool for a basic washer and dryer?

>>104002065
>Well considering modern washing machines make the clothes smell worse than before washing.
You don't clean the water filters on your washer, do you?

>>104002815
Stick with maytag, avoid samsung, and just buy dented cheap machines from any brand, then be willing to fix them yourselves.

>>104002618
Don't question the Lord

>>104002880
So just buy some busted old shit and wait for it to break?