>>103895436
I wish my Framework had, like, 50% more graphics hutzpah for the same or less thermal profile. That'd make it the only computer I'd need.

>>103895436
Why did they add the faggot ass bezel to thinkpads this lineup? I thought these we're for grown ups, not disney adults?

>>103895436
Had my Zenbook for coming up 8 years now (UX331UN). I paid £900 for it and it's been a great laptop. I wanted something ultraportable with great battery life and some GPU power for some light gaming and it ticked all of those boxes. But these days the Nvidia MX150 GPU can't play much of anything beyond indie titles and the 8gb of soldered RAM is a bottleneck for basically everything.

Thinking of trying to pick up a 4th Gen Thinkpad T14 AMD since the Ryzen models are supposed to be good and the 780m Radeon graphics will be a 2x performance leap from the MX150.

>>103895590
13 or 16?

Shouldn't the integrated graphics on intel chips be getting way better along with their dedicated GPU dev? Or are they going to try and create market demand by artificially capping the IGP?

>>103896594
that sounds bad out of context

>>103896594
13". If the 16" was out when I was looking for a laptop, I would've bought one instead, but this isn't a bad laptop.

>>103897541
It's not that bad but I don't know what to tell you without a specific example (which I don't have on-hand.)

Anyone with a 16" framework want to chime in? I really like their goal and want to support them but not if I'm going to regret it as my daily.

>>103895436
I am still satisfied with my ideapad flex 5 2021.

are gaming laptops actually a thing now? hard to imagine one ever being better than a desktop

>>103898358
>>103898210
I got the 16. I can't compare it to the 13, but I am very happy about it. The fact that I was able to center the keyboard, and choose to move it over to install a numpad at a later date, was a big plus. The physical mic and cam switches are also cool. Assembly and disassembly was absurdly easy. My biggest complaint is that the touchpad doesn't line up perfectly with the left and right spacers, so there's a small edge sticking out. I've seen one person on the forums complain about thermal issues, so they had to reapply the thermal paste. But since it's built to be taken apart, at least a problem like that isn't as bad as on some other laptops.
Hopefully they're improving with each batch, and the build quality is better now than for the one I got.
One thing to be wary about, that isn't immediately obvious, is that not all expansion cards (USB-C, audio jack, etc.) can be used in all available slots according to the diagram I got. So there's a small chance you won't be able to have your ideal configuration.
But overall I'm happy with it.

Want a good CPU but also good thermals, no hot bottom allowed. GPU optional. What are my options.

>>103898625
Awesome Anon. Thanks for that! I'll look up the slot diagram before I order.

dubs and I buy it

>>103898915
roll

>>103898966
ok satan I will buy
I'll wait for my new chase card to arrive tho because i get 60,000 bonus points ($600) if I spend 4k on it in the first 3 months, so that will cover it

>>103899015
roll for fun

>>103898966
Oh actually I can use my card right away with a digital wallet. Just wanna triple check I like this config

>>103899030
re-roll for fun

>>103898915
The battery is going to get swollen eventually! That's called a "spicy pillow". And to make things worse, your laptop will get hot and throttled.

Think twice before you buy that objectively shitty laptop!

>>103899077
Checked and re-confirmed
>throttle
This one has a fan tho

>>103899077
b-but it's a-apple!

>>103899160
nah expensive laptops arent the problem, the problem is apple, you cant install half the shit you want, .dmg is shit, .exe on top

Ok ordered

>>103899222
dubs followed by trips lol

I'm OP btw, i can officially say that i am partially the reason why someone spend 3k on a laptop

>>103899284
Closer to 4.5k but yeah
Been considering it for a while but hadn’t pulled the trigger. My M2 air works fine tb h and I think waiting for the M5’s would have been smart. Made good money last year tho, and fall is a ways away. Maybe I’ll get that one too lol

>>103899303
glad to hear it

>>103899160
But old ThinkPad laptops are objectively really shitty because they're really slow in every ways.

Meanwhile, the Dell Precision laptops are objectively really amazing, including the old ones from 2011-2018.

>>103899222
You are going to have a great gaming experience with ryujinx and the entire switch library.
Did you get it for running LLMs?

>>103899381
I got a bit of extra ram with that in mind, but I’ve not tried local LLMs yet. I’m skeptical that it would be better than just using Claude, but it wouldn’t hurt to play around with it a bit I suppose.
The main draw was honestly the display. I’m using the thing to work and study all day so little things like that make a big difference. Hopefully the better memory bandwidth and ssd speeds help with compilation times a bit. The air wouldn’t handle multiple displays before but I did switch to one big monitor recently and it seems to handle that fine. Doesn’t handle an external display + sidecar iPad very well tho.
Mostly it’s just cuz work and school have been going well, and when you’re making good money you can have a QoL upgrade as a little treat to keep you on the good path.

>>103899495
>extra ram with that in mind, but I’ve not tried local LLMs yet.
the mac app store has an app called Draw Things that is really easy to learn to run local diffusors with and you can download models and loras from civit.ai to use with it.
I like the local LLMs just for toying around with and building the skill to use them and not rely on webapps for access to it.

>>103899303
>Maybe I’ll get that one too lol
Check out Exo https://github.com/exo-explore/exo
you can cluster your m2 air, your m4 max, and your future m5 and combine the ram to run a model bigger than you otherwise could on a single machine.
tb5 cables get expensive though...

The M18X-R2 is the best laptop ever made
>18.4" screen
>3x HDD slots
>4x RAM slots
>socketed CPU
>2x MXM slots
>solid aluminum case
>solid aluminum hinge system (won't break with use like every other laptop in the world)
>12 pounds (filters weaklings)
you can use the MXM slots to put modern graphics cards in it, at least up to
RTX3060 last I checked. And you can use a NVME to MXM adapter for PCI speed SSD. Obviously you can also slot in new, top of the line wifi cards too. Invest in a platform, not a system. 12 years strong, baby.

>>103899546
Thanks I’ll check that out, though I’m not very interested in image generation. Could be useful for web design and marketing materials tho, so I shouldn’t ignore the skill
>>103899583
>TB5
The air doesn’t have TB5 tho. Just labeled “thunderbolt”
Would that still work?

>>103896594
14

m1 8gb air chad here
does everything you could possibly want

If i get dubs im downloading malware

>>103899637
>60hz, lcd panel
no thanks

>>103895436
For desktops, nothing beats Windows.
For phones, nothing beats Pixel with Lineage.
For laptops nothing beats MacBooks.
For TVs nothing beats Android or Linux.
I just got my m4 MBP. Upgraded from the M2. I use different things for different purposes. I don't get why people get so worked up about os wars when you can just run whatever you want these days for very cheap. I just sold the m2 MBP for $250. I didn't need to make a lot off of it. I listed it for free but nobody messaged me.

>>103899015
damn i got that card last year but got 90,000 points if i spent 3k in 3 months, they really nerfed it.

>>103899716
Dang. Maybe it was a different card. This one is “Chase Sapphire Preferred”

>>103899740
yeah thats the one i have with the $95 fee, they must've just been promoting it last year or something when I got it. The sign on bonus was nice and i still use it for the 3% back on dining, but I didn't realize to really get your money's worth you have to use Chase travel. When I went to book flights last year, I saw that the Chase tickets were about $2-300 more expensive than ones I could just get on google flights, so I just bought them through that... kinda disappointed overall, but worth it for the bonus points if you were going to spend the money anyway.

I kinda regret getting a new think pad, the

>>103895436
my current laptop is fine

>>103899795
Don’t keep us in suspense anon

>>103899774
I see. No big deal really. $600 off on something I wanted anyway is still cool. Just gonna pay it off in full. Gonna travel a bit this year too so I was already considering getting a card with those perks. Oh maybe I should hold on to those points and use them for travel expenses, I think they said they’re worth more for that

I have a Thinkpad T470 running kali linux that I got for free

I have a Thinkpad T410 I purchased for $50 on ebay running linux mint

I have a HP x360 running Manjaro that I got for free

I basically daily the T410 and the x360 but have been using the x360 more because of weight and convinience. I avoid using the T470 for opsec reasons but it’s broken air gap so it’s basically in vain. Not sure what I should do but I carry all 3 in a bag that I always have with me. Sometimes I wish/want to install another distro on the T470 and use it more

Portable monitor recs? Was doing some hacky RDP monitor extender with gnome and phone, years back.

>have had an M1 MBP since 2020
Will I ever need to replace this thing? It feels like a laptop that will last fucking forever.