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Previous thread: >>103824581
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)15:40:34 No.103841035
channels4_profile
>>103840994
why not use the real the real unix instead?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)15:59:03 No.103841245
Asking again
>>103840712

Is it possible to make a multboot usb with different distros using grub? ventoy is fucking up everything lately.
The basic functionality I want is just being able to multiboot several linux distros/windows/whatever else, everything else like persistent storage is an extra(tho this one is a nice one to have).
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)15:59:48 No.103841253
>>103841035
I've used the real unix and mac shit is nothing like it.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:01:32 No.103841268
file
>>103841035
>pay for a cert
>"I'm the unix now"
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:12:09 No.103841407
1706304049543758
Hello, I recently acquired my first linux server and hosted some services for myself.
I followed this thread's advice and hardened the server (installed fail2ban, ufw; closed all ports I don't use, disabled password auth). Now I want to know how how should I monitor the services to ensure everything runs smoothly.
Currently, I just check fail2ban logs, and run top -n 1.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:19:23 No.103841493
>>103841035
Because my OS does what I tell it not the other way around. Imagine being cucked by software vendors in your own home.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:36:23 No.103841652
>>103840994
all things considered (anything you can think of) what is the best desktop environment for linux nowadays?

i used linux shortly 10 or so years ago and i remember i didnt love gnome. it didnt really make sense to me on non touchpad device, but seeing how it is number 1 option for arguably the best linux distro(s), im considering it

i think it might be better to go with the best version of something im not crazy about, than shitty execution of something that is more up my alley (looking at kde). i could be wrong, didnt use linux in forever
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:41:03 No.103841677
>>103841652
KDE has issues but it's my favorite. Lots of features and customization without feeling like I have to customize everything. Also I like a lot of KDE apps, but you obviously don't have to use those if you don't want to.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:49:30 No.103841762
Ok fuck me my windows 10 desktop keeps BSODing. I literally just use it to play steam games and skyrim. What linux distro should I install literally right now that will give me the least headaches possible in every way?

I use gentoo on my work laptop, but for my gaming desktop I do not want to boot it up in the evening and then have to do maintenance or fix things after updates or have headaches getting devices to work. I just want to be able to open it and launch steam and relax for a bit. That's the reason it's still running windows even today, but after I finally updated it a couple weeks ago (after a few months of skipping updates) it's started BSODing every couple of days so that's no longer working out.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:52:19 No.103841784
>>103841762
for gaming there really isnt better option than windows 10 enterprise ltsc with disabled updates via group policy
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:54:00 No.103841803
>>103841784
That's what I have and it has decided that I am now due for a mandatory crash every 2-48 hours
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)16:56:43 No.103841841
>>103841803
look through the event viewer and see what's happening?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:00:17 No.103841886
>>103841762
> I use gentoo on my work laptop
And you're asking us which distro to use? Just install Arch to avoid compilations and have some control and you're good to go. Or if you want to be even more lazy, PopOS.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:01:00 No.103841899
>>103841841
"unexpected power loss"
I don't know how to get the actual details, as I've never debugged windows deeply
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:02:03 No.103841916
>>103841035
There's no real unix. It's just a license you pay nowadays. FreeBSD is more real unix than Mac.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:03:08 No.103841939
>>103841899
I don't think you need to look any more deeper than that mate. Perhaps your PSU is dying or the power going to it isn't stable. It won't matter if you install Linux if your power is faulty; it'll still crash.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:03:41 No.103841942
>>103841899
Don't bother. You won't get much info. You'll get a silly code that only really Microsoft devs know how to decipher and even if you know what the code means you can't fix it. Most likely it's a buggy driver somewhere. Either that or your CPU/GPU has high temps.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:04:51 No.103841961
>>103841939
Yeah but in Linux case you do get hardware information with journalctl telling which hardware was the problem. With Windows you get nothing.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:09:04 No.103842013
>>103841939
Shouldn't be the PSU, it's a relatively new one (changed over like last year or so) and supposed to be a pretty good quality one.
It also started after I finally installed some windows updates a couple weeks ago.
>>103841942
>high temps
Shouldn't be that either since I'm not doing anything too demanding.
Of course they could just be dying, who knows.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:20:05 No.103842166
>>103842013
For CPU and GPU you need a good knowledge of what values to expect in metrics. You can try the event viewer of Windows but I never really had much luck with that thing.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)17:24:27 No.103842228
I have this odd issue where if I put my laptop to sleep, when I wake it up again, it slowly raises the brightness to max, it then blinks the screen a few times and then it goes to black, all while still staying turned on.
Is it a hardware issue? I'm on Fedora 41 and I only started getting it recently.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)18:30:33 No.103842963
>>103842228
hard to tell if it's hardware or sofware with just that. honestly your best bet is talking to the devs of the driver that handles brightness of your laptop. Or maybe you could check if it's software increasing brightness. I don't know exactly how right now though. Just an idea. Not a simple problem to figure out, that's for sure, but don't just give up, there's always a solution.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)19:17:29 No.103843522
>>103841961
What is Event Viewer. Dumb mf.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)19:18:16 No.103843534
>>103842228
Try booting one of the older kernels from the grub menu and see if it goes away.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)19:26:28 No.103843652
>>103843522
It's the "journalctl" of Windows
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:08:48 No.103844275
>>103841961
>>103841939
It's dmesg you want to check out on hardware-related problems, not system logs.
>>103842228
Sounds like a hardware issue.
>it slowly raises the brightness to max
Especially if the speed of this process varies.
>>103841035
I'd love to try it. How do I get one to test in a container?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:22:38 No.103844535
>>103841245
Just partition accordingly and install your distros on each partition?? they won't be live though, but they'll work
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:23:38 No.103844557
>>103841407
get into proper monitoring like nagios or zabbix, it's a rabbit hole but you'll learn
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:25:06 No.103844579
im stuck with windows anons i cant get back to my beloved looniks im dying
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:27:32 No.103844621
>>103844275
>It's dmesg you want to check out on hardware-related problems, not system logs.
Dmesg just shows you the kernel's ring buffer at this point in time. Journald saves these logs (
journalctl -k
) and it's also common on non-Systemd systems for the Syslog daemon to save them to /var/log/kern.log, etc.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:28:06 No.103844633
>>103844621
>Dmesg just shows you the kernel's ring buffer at this point in time
Which is what you want, not system logs.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:30:03 No.103844657
>>103844633
It won't tell you shit if the problem is power loss like that anon had because by the time the machine reboots the logs will be gone.

If you're lucky Journald or the Syslog daemon will have recorded it though.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:30:16 No.103844660
>>103841407
filter everyone outside your country's IP range unless you travel a lot
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:46:45 No.103844838
>>103844557
Thank you. I have heard of nagios, I think I will use my shitpost email to receive the notifications.

>>103844660
Makes sense but I'm dumb enough to try to connect via SSH while using a VPN and wonder why I'm receiving timeouts.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:49:28 No.103844873
Learned how to use cgroups and systemd provisioning to tard wrangle my browser into eating less RAM on my old laptop, thanks for the motivation webshits
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)20:51:16 No.103844905
>>103844873
autism wins
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)21:05:34 No.103845096
>>103844660
Only if countries had IP ranges lol. Well, there's North Korea that has a singular range but generally speaking.
>>103844873
Sounds interesting. Extra info?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)21:26:20 No.103845329
>>103845096
>Only if countries had IP ranges lol.
ISPs do.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)22:16:07 No.103845957
>>103845329
These ranges rotate a lot as people buy and sell them and an IP address doesn't have a country per-se beyond what their geolocation information says (which can be fucky). You can acquire an address range from AFRINIC and use it outside of Africa, for example.
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)22:31:56 No.103846127
>>103845957
Also, this is without considering things like Anycast.

What is the country of 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 when they are using Anycast from multiple countries around the world?
Anonymous 01/10/25(Fri)23:52:23 No.103847089
>>103841762
>Ok fuck me my windows 10 desktop keeps BSODing
The first thing I'd do before suspecting software is checking the hardware, RAM (with memtest) to be specific. You're risking data corruption if you keep running your PC like that.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)00:41:00 No.103847559
halp
Trying to add two 12TB HDDs to my Debian fstab file, for some reason driveA works but driveB causes errors.
I've double checked the UUID and it's correct, what the fuck is causing this?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)01:27:55 No.103847913
>>103847559
Are you sure drive B is working correctly?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)01:30:10 No.103847940
>>103844535
well, they didn't, I was able to get ubuntu working, but each distro has their own init img, and I'm too retarded to figure this out, I was only able to get ubuntu working because it's very popular and I found someone with the same issue, but all the others just failed.

I will just make do with ventoy, it fails a lot but failing a lot still better than not working at akk
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)01:32:03 No.103847965
>>103847559
I think driveb formatting might be fucked up, check if it's working properly first
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)02:04:03 No.103848281
>>103840994
nomacs is broken again on arch, spectacle (KDE) is broken again on arch... fuck man it's been stable until now, I thought gabe gave them half a billion what the fuck is this shit?

 Could not activate remote peer 'org.kde.spectacle': startup job failed 
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)02:17:06 No.103848392
>>103847965
>>103847913
SMART data is fine and I can mount it normally and copy files to/from it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)02:23:59 No.103848436
>>103847559
check the logs
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)02:36:41 No.103848552
>>103840994
Nigga can we go back to the xitter screenshots? Tumblr is going too far
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)02:50:48 No.103848702
I tried Bluefin but it feels too cloudshit to me. Think I'll go back to comfy Opensuse TW GNOME instead
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)03:07:01 No.103848824
How do I get CPU package power working in lm-sensors ?
Alder lake desktop 12600kf
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)03:17:03 No.103848891
How do I get autocomplete, but for plain text, outside of bash? For writing prose. Like on a smartphone.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)03:24:00 No.103848935
>>103848891
Ibus-typing-booster
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)03:26:08 No.103848949
>>103840994
spoonfeed me an image viewer with basic editing and converting capabilities. Crop, resize, rotate, marker/brush/whatever, convert to jpg/png/webp, you got me anon.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)04:35:03 No.103849345
1709554607192223
i haven't used gnome in years, is my system broken or are their really still no thumbnails in the file picker?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)04:53:31 No.103849455
>>103848281
>Arch is broken again
To the surprise of nobody. Gabe can give them all the money in the world but there's a reason Steam OS still uses immutable snapshots of Arch instead of rolling with it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)05:12:54 No.103849564
>>103849345
They have them now but they don't generate automatically, you have to open your file manager (Nautilus) to the directory that contains them first.
Yes, this is retarded.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)05:22:17 No.103849607
>>103849564
Thanks anon, that worked. but damn that's fucking retarded
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:01:46 No.103849891
>>103848935
This looks neat, I'm already using ibus-table which this was forked from.

It amazes me that distros don't configure useful stuff like this out-of-the-box. IBus is usually there but distros don't set it up. If you don't know of it then you might come across with the false impression that it's somehow impossible to type emoji and symbols on Linux.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:20:25 No.103850014
i get some sort of crash when i zfs send between my drives
ive ran memtest overnight and it looks fine, it happend after about 50-150GB of transfer
The screen scrolls too fast im not sure how to catch the log because it doesnt show up in journalctl -b1
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:21:37 No.103850023
>>103850014
Crash as in kernel panic?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:24:55 No.103850046
>>103849891
what's useful to you is bloat to someone else
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:33:14 No.103850120
>>103850046
Yes, it's bloat so we'll install the thing and leave it running on people's machines but never configure it to be useful.

Besides, DIY distros like Arch and Gentoo, you already have IBus there, it's just that nobody bothered to configure it. Most people probably don't even know about it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:33:41 No.103850123
>>103850023
not quite but the system is not functional after that ttys dont work
now i got a shorter one " watchdog detected hard lockupnon cpu 7" and "rcu_preempt starved for 197897 jiffies"
and some other stuff but im not sure ehat to looks for
everything works otherwise but thr process is dead, i think it called oom
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:37:43 No.103850151
>>103850120
I don't have ibus here though (Arch).
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:39:29 No.103850165
>>103850151
I know that, I wasn't talking about distros like Arch or Gentoo, I was specifically talking about those that do install it (i.e, most sensible desktop distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora) but don't configure it to do anything.

Of course, your "minimal" Arch install that didn't drag in optional dependencies by default won't have it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:41:20 No.103850179
>>103850165
Well, I read >>103850120 wrong
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:42:21 No.103850186
>>103850165
So, what does this ibus even do? Would I want to configure it?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:43:14 No.103850193
>>103850123
im using pv btw maybe it leaks or something
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)06:45:31 No.103850200
>>103850186
It's an Input Method Editor. It provides a system to input other non-latin languages (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc) or in the case of ibus-typing-booster symbols and emoji and spelling corrections, etc.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)07:03:32 No.103850324
>>103850200
I should probably set that up for typing Japanese.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)07:41:53 No.103850600
>>103850592
Your /trash/ tab is that way, fren --->
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:26:33 No.103850960
>>103845957
>These ranges rotate a lot
Not as much you think. Look up what ASN(s) they have, then whitelist their assigned ranges.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_(Internet)

Here's an example:
https://www.ip2location.com/as7922

Of course you should still require public key authentication only.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:31:55 No.103851013
>>103850960
It happens all the time, there are plenty of stories on the Internet of people whose server is blacklisted because the IP they have used to belong to some server in Russia, etc.

You're fucked if that happens to you because people rarely update their geolocation databases.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:34:53 No.103851047
>>103851013
What does that have to with server-side whitelisting of acceptable client IPs?
And BGP literally runs the internet, it's never out of date, though mistakes can and do happen.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:36:17 No.103851060
>>103851047
BGP only tells you who owns the address, it doesn't tell you what country it's being used in. People use all sorts of databases for that and they're often out-of-date. If your goal is to whitelist/blacklist ASNs then yes, you can do that pretty trivially though but ASN != country.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:36:54 No.103851067
>>103851060
The country doesn't matter.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:42:10 No.103851110
>>103851067
Except it does, if you're trying to blacklist entire countries. Then you need this information.

It's easy to just whitelist your own ISPs range though if you just want to prevent everyone other than yourself (and any other customers that have the same ISP) from accessing it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:43:45 No.103851123
>>103851110
You might need to re-read my post >>103845329
I never cared about blocking countries to begin with.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:45:14 No.103851138
>>103851123
Fair enough. I got confused because of what the other anon said.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)08:53:42 No.103851195
you might be doing something really wrong because even if each distro was updating the boot partition then the last distro should list all intalled ones
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:05:11 No.103851289
file
>>103840994
I have some old bootloader in my EFI folder. I don't use those operating system any more. Like Ubuntu and Debian. Can i just delete them? The operating systems aren't installed any more.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:08:42 No.103851315
>>103851289
You can. You may also want to check with efibootmgr in case there's old loader entries and delete them too.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:34:57 No.103851600
how do i make a steamlibrary on a zfs volume? doesnt show up in the interface and i cant just pick the mountpoint it doesnt work
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:38:02 No.103851629
Gf_o4_ZXsAA_np_
>>103848702
Elaborate. What was too "cloudshit" and what does that even mean to you?

I've been toying with the idea of switching over to one of the universal blue distros so curious what you're seeing/not liking specifically.

Imo I DONT want to distrohop. I just want an OS which works and gets out of my way and stays updated and stable and so these ublue immutable distro look nice form that sense
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)09:58:44 No.103851853
>>103851629
Installing downloaded rpms only works with rpm-ostree and that slows down your updates with every package layered on top. Also removing shit from the base image provided, like if you don't want Firefox to be on your system, only works with rpm-ostree override as well. And that also slows down your updates, since updates go: base image gets fully updated -> layers and overrides get applied. So every customization of the base image increases the systems memory, instead of reducing it like it would normally if you remove bloat from your OS.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:06:56 No.103851939
KDE35desktop
I remember falling in love with KDE 3.5
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:11:34 No.103851995
is Debian Sid stable enough to use for a home server?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:12:02 No.103851999
>>103851995
no, next question
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:19:39 No.103852087
>>103851999
is Ubuntu Server a good server distro?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:20:46 No.103852097
>>103851939
did you confess to her?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:21:47 No.103852114
>>103852087
I hate it with a passion, that means no.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:24:35 No.103852154
>>103848552
Tumblr has ironically gotten ever since all the most unhinged coomer women and trannies left for twitter because of the porn ban
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:27:40 No.103852193
How often do people get burned by packages in user repos like the AUR?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:27:45 No.103852195
>>103852114
alright one more question, what's the best filesystem for a non-critical home server?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:28:50 No.103852207
>>103852195
If you don't know, use ext4
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:35:12 No.103852295
>>103843534
>>103844275
So that didn't work, neither did a BIOS update. I've discovered that this is somehow only an issue if the device is not plugged in.
>freshly powered-on = ok
>fell asleep but plugged in = ok
>fell asleep and on battery = screen brightness starts going up, semi-blinks and then goes to black.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:36:03 No.103852309
When will filepickers stop sucking?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:38:18 No.103852351
>>103852087
no, use standard debian stable
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:39:43 No.103852372
>>103852097
I did, love at first sight but we weren't able to stay together because dial-up internet-san hated her
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:40:42 No.103852383
>>103852351
i'm gonna use the new debian trixie development version
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:40:53 No.103852384
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:43:39 No.103852417
>>103845329
Countries have billions of ISPs and each ISP has billions of IPv4 ranges.
What's the smart way of firewalling by country?
>>103851995
Sid is a testing ground, it's not supposed to be used by end-users.
>>103852087
>server server server
What software are we talking? Just a box you can SSH into? You can use anything for that.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:48:28 No.103852473
>>103852417
>Countries have billions of ISPs
No
>each ISP has billions of IPv4 ranges.
If that were the case, ipv6 wouldn't exist yet.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:57:39 No.103852578
Déjà Dup, Timeshift or BorgBackup for backing up Ubuntu to an external USB hard drive?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)10:58:52 No.103852600
Test
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)11:37:22 No.103853112
sample
Imagemagick question. I want to delete (make transparent) a portion within a PNG image using only imagemagick. Say, I provide the coordinates and want to turn a boxed region fully alpha.

Coordinates are 207,180 to 350,350.

How do I do this?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)11:43:46 No.103853203
>>103852295
Not sure how feasible this idea is (and it's advanced if so) but I'd look into GNU debugger (gdb) and try identifying the process that controls brightness and write a script that activates on wakeup and watches that process
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:05:27 No.103853500
>>103853203
A much simpler idea I just thought of is to verify what DE you're using (GNOME, etc.) and look into whatever logs there might be since your DE should control the brightness. If logs aren't capable of capturing whatever is happening here then you'll probably have to go down the gdb route or something similar.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:07:06 No.103853523
1708392797565450
>>103840994
I know this is kind of a tricky question and this might not be the best place to ask but: why do people say Arch is a "time waster"? It's sort of a common opinion I've seen across multiple sites, and it always boils down to the same arguments.
>it takes too much time to configure/set up/tweak
>the maintenance is too difficult
>it breaks all the time
In my personal opinion, none of this is true, but I understand other people's mileage may vary. However, I still find the previous claims ridiculous. So what causes this? is it just a normalfag thing? pebcak?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:08:20 No.103853543
After the UEFI firmware finds the efi file that it's supposed to boot from, is it the end of it's job?
As in, everything afterwards is up to the bootloader, e.g. grub2 or systemd-boot or whatever
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:32:15 No.103853905
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:35:14 No.103853936
>>103853203
>>103853500
I spoke too soon. It was in fact a kernel version problem.
Fedora (6.11.4-301.fc41.x86-64) 41 is fine
Fedora (6.12.8-200.fc41.x86-64) 41 is causing the issue.

Thank you for helping me with this.
Do I have to go to Bugzilla to file a report?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:39:28 No.103853987
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:42:27 No.103854029
>>103853987
well spotted
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:43:49 No.103854044
>>103853523
>it takes too much time to configure/set up/tweak
this one can be true, depending on what you want though. Same for other distros of course.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:45:04 No.103854064
>>103851939
TDE is still a thing
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:58:26 No.103854258
How good is support for modern nvidia GPUs on linux? I have a 4070 and have been considering leaving win11 but don't want to have a shit gaming experience
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)12:59:58 No.103854283
>>103854258
>don't want to have a shit gaming experience
>leaving win11
good choice
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:07:12 No.103854391
>>103841035
>real unix
Guess what their kernel XNU stands for
Thats right, XNU NOT UNIX
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:09:18 No.103854413
>>103854391
It's eXtra Nutting Unit, bro
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:09:57 No.103854420
>>103850014
you dont mention which distro you're on
just use rsync instead
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:10:13 No.103854423
>>103851629
I'm on Kinoite and while it was annoying to get used to, I don't think I'd go back to anything else for a daily driver. If you care about customization more than stability I'd stay away like the anon mentioned, but if you just want to get stuff done and everything you need is either a flatshit or cli-based then it's great. It does help that I have another computer running non-immutable linux for learning/customizing purposes.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:11:09 No.103854437
>>103851995
You could get away with it if you really want to
Its all about your usecase
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:12:17 No.103854457
>>103853905
stop using chatgpt
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:16:32 No.103854519
>>103854423
Also a slight correction to >>103851853
You can install downloaded RPMs, but it has to be in toolbox/distrobox which is basically a container with host integration. You'll mostly spend your time in there for anything cli based. So you have your base system which you generally don't touch unless you absolutely have to (in my case I just added distrobox), and then the mutable tool/distroboxes.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:18:52 No.103854555
1655140945543
Wifi frequently "drops" shows 0/0 down/up but the connection still shows active. Have to disconnect/reconnect.

Using iwlwifi driver

lshw -C network:
  *-network                 
description: Wireless interface
product: Wi-Fi 6 AX200
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 1a
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=6.12.8-zen1-1-zen firmware=77.0b4c06ad.0 cc-a0-77.ucode ip=192.***.***.*** latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:40 memory:fc500000-fc503fff


iwconfig:
wlan0     IEEE 802.11  ESSID:"NetworkName"  
Mode:Managed Frequency:5.24 GHz Access Point:
Bit Rate=864.8 Mb/s Tx-Power=22 dBm
Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Management:on
Link Quality=51/70 Signal level=-59 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:25 Missed beacon:0


lspci -vv -s (wifi card):
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200NGW
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 40
Region 0: Memory at fc500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
Kernel modules: iwlwifi


I get the feeling that maybe a power/retry setting could be adjusted to help?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:20:18 No.103854576
>>103854258
Tolerable if you don't have fancy hardware and use X11.
Icc profiles and hdr are a shitshow as far as I'm aware. I don't know how good the wayland support is right now, as I don't use it.
Otherwise, things are fine, I rarely have issues.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:21:10 No.103854589
>>103854555
Got cut off due to text limit.

Let me know if anyone can think of driver changes that may help with the issue, maybe power management or retry related?
Seems to happen most frequently when I'm doing heavier traffic activities or concurrent upload/download. Have had this issue on both my laptop and desktop, both with an Intel wifi card. Arch Linux but it's affected multiple distros.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:25:30 No.103854656
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:27:37 No.103854689
/pcbg/ told me ask here

how does nvidia drivers compare to amd ones on linux?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:31:52 No.103854748
>>103854689
AMD drivers are very smooth on Linux and work exactly as advertised. No issues at all on Wayland.
Nvidia drivers are very acceptable but always more prone to bugs on (anything), especially on newer hardware or bleeding edge driver releases.

Case by case basis, but generally it's ok especially if whatever DE/WM you use is still on X11.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:32:13 No.103854755
>>103854689
novideo is closed and they're out of the kernel tree, so a kernel update can break it. Also the wayland support isn't perfect.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:36:50 No.103854844
1731449184755054
How bad BTRFS performance on HDD?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:53:43 No.103855061
>>103854748
brand new AMD Gpus also have problems, anon.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)13:55:47 No.103855091
>>103855061
Any new GPU can have driver issues, Windows or Linux.
Point is Nvidia is absolutely less reliable than AMD on Leenux.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:02:42 No.103855190
>>103855091
Both were pretty damn reliable to me.
The only issue I had with my old Nvidia GPU was that it only had 2GB VRAM, which just wasn't enough anymore.
Went with AMD for the new build, it's nice not having to reboot after a kernel update immediatly.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:17:40 No.103855429
1708872263833813
I'm trying to install ZFS on Debian so I can use it as a NAS but whenever I try to install linux-headers-amd64 it gets stuck on unpacking linux-headers. This is a fresh install and all I've done is add contrib to the sources list and run apt update.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:18:39 No.103855442
>>103854689
I'm running a 4070 on Wayland and the three main problems I've had are occasional graphical glitches in Steam, gamescope not working in some games, and no multi monitor VRR support (coming soonâ„¢). None of these problems are huge deals to me but I still would've bought AMD if I had known I was switching to Linux when I built the PC.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:30:08 No.103855603
>>103855429
are you using a usb drive as your rootfs or something?
its taking forever because your drive is too slow for some reason
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:33:36 No.103855654
>>103855603
No, it's installed on NVMe.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:41:08 No.103855756
>>103853543
It does some stuff afterwards as well
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:43:29 No.103855786
If I have a new rig with 2 SSDs, do I just plug them both in and install my desired distro (Mint), or do I unplug one first, or what's the deal? With Windows, if you don't wanna deal with partition and extra menu bullshit, it's easier to just unplug one first, so I dunno if it's the same with Linux.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:48:33 No.103855845
>>103854844
Less bad than ZFS until you start adding cache / log volumes. It helps to use NoCOW directories for things which do a lot of block-wise updates, like torrents and crypto nodes. Those do their own integrity tracking anyway, and you can always download the data again if something screws up. If you want to keep the torrent download, copy it to a CoW destination and have a good long term storage copy with no appreciable fragmentation.

RAID1 also offsets the impact of fragmentation a lot because each drive can seek independently.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:48:47 No.103855848
Screenshot From 2025-01-11 11-45-40
>>103840994
Did I accidentally delete my grub partition? Google isn't being helpful. I was reformatting the USB I used to install Ubuntu, and I think I may have deleted grub on my main drive by accident. Now I don't want to restart my computer. Is there supposed to be another partition on the home drive? I can't remember if I deleted it on SDA or SDE where the USB was. The files in /boot/grub are still there obviously.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:51:35 No.103855893
>>103855845
Different anon here. I have 5 14tb disks. Should I use BTRFS RAID1 or RAID10?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:53:06 No.103855916
>>103855848
Just reinstall grub.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:54:42 No.103855938
>>103855916
Yeah, but did I actually delete it? If I deleted it, then why are the files still in /boot/? Can you see the image of the disk in GParted? Is there usually another partition on the home drive? There are no logs in /root/ so I am super pissed about this.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:55:35 No.103855946
>>103855654
try installing the eatmydata package and then run the apt install command through eatmydata such as
eatmydata apt install

etc.
if you notice it being much faster then its an issue with sync writes
forgot the name for it, but dpkg basically calls sync to disk each time a package is being installed/upgraded/removed
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:56:36 No.103855961
>>103855845
you can deal with the torrent issue by just enabling or disabling preallocation
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:57:12 No.103855973
>>103855848
You are supposed to have either an EFI partition (fat32 format) or MBR partition in the front of your boot drive.
Your /boot/grub is still there because that's grubs internal stuff like the config. The part of grub that is loaded by your UEFI is placed in the efi partition, which is often mounted under /boot/efi.
Just reinstalling grub would not be enough if you have actually deleted the efi partition. You'd have to recreate it first.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)14:58:26 No.103855988
>>103855786
Just go into BIOS on your first bootup and disable the Windows drive and re-enable it later when you're ready to use it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)15:02:24 No.103856027
>>103840994
any linux solved HDR yet?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)15:28:11 No.103856275
>>103855973
I am using BIOS, not UEFI.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)15:30:20 No.103856292
>>103856027
KDE has it iirc
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)15:30:43 No.103856297
>>103856275
>I am using BIOS
So then you need an MBR partition like he said
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)15:51:31 No.103856505
>>103855916
I'm going to need a good guide on how to reinstall grub, because nothing I'm getting on Google is working. The Boot-Repair tool just tells me to use GParted. GParted can format the partition, but grub refuses to install on sda. I am so sick of this bullshit. This should be a fast, simple fix and instead it's painful as fuck. I'm using BIOS not UEFI.

Ubuntu 24.10
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:04:25 No.103856614
>>103854689
AMD is plug and play and doesn't come with caveats, unlike Nvidia.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:06:33 No.103856643
>>103856297
Boot Repair put the boot flag on the main partition? Am i fucked now?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:07:33 No.103856653
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:14:40 No.103856744
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:18:14 No.103856789
>>103856744
Wrong. I was using the Ubuntu package for BIOS since installation and everything was working fine. If I had UEFI it wouldn't boot. UEFI secure boot is unavailable in bios settings.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:24:33 No.103856875
>>103856275
Maybe it is EFI

Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/sda2 4096 234438655 234434560 111.8G EFI System
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:29:53 No.103856941
>>103856789
>the Ubuntu package for BIOS
the what?

Still, what you think is bios is likely to be the compatibility layer in EFI.
Secure boot has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:44:25 No.103857080
Screenshot From 2025-01-11 13-43-59
>>103856941
Okay, I figured it out. You have to take the 1 MB starting partition, clear it so it has no format, and then flag it as bios_grub. Then you can install grub with no errors because it knows where to install. So it's been about two hours since I accidentally deleted grub. That's sad. No one could condense that into a single sentence. They had to write pages and pages of bullshit.

1.) Create bios_grub partition with no format.

2.) Flag partition as bios_grub.

3.) sudo grub-install /dev/sda

All of the directions on the Internet leave out steps 1 & 2, so there are thousands of users posting over and over again with the same fucking problem. What a goddamn shame. The worst part is that Boot Rescue can't actually format the disk, so it's just a waste of time. It should at least tell you what to do in GParted instead of wasting your time.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:46:17 No.103857102
>>103857091
I already said I used it. It's garbage. It leaves out steps 1 & 2.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)16:53:19 No.103857176
>>103857080
This only happened because you can't format installation media using right click on Ubuntu. It just complains about the partition table and then refuses to do anything. This needs to be fixed. There should be a one click way to make installation media back into a blank, formatted drive without me having to fucking use GParted. This is unironically probably why a lot of people refuse to use Linux. I've been a Linux user for over 10 years and I'm still making mistakes like this because ease of use is just too much to ask. I ended up making the USB usable with my MacBook because it's so painful to reuse an installation USB on Ubuntu.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:07:50 No.103857331
>>103854519
But that won't help if I want to install a VPN app
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:11:18 No.103857355
how do i parse /proc/<PID>/stat file?
man 5 proc doesnt have anything about
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:24:51 No.103857479
Fixed Double nm-applet entry in Xfce systray by removing --applet option from the .desktop entry at /use/etc/xdg/Autostart

I'm so smart.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:25:23 No.103857488
>>103857479
--indicator option I mean lol
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:50:35 No.103857704
>>103856614
caveats such as?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:52:11 No.103857717
>>103855893
Probably better off with raid1 in most cases, but it depends on your workload. Idek how well raid10 works with 4/5 symmetry.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)17:58:16 No.103857759
>>103857704
Bad Wayland support
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:46:30 No.103858276
>>103857331
Yea that's true, you'd have to install that using rpm-ostree so might be SOL if it's not available in the main repositories. Although, I wonder if it can layer standalone RPM packages. I'll have to look more into it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)18:47:53 No.103858287
>>103858276
>>103857331
Oh I'm retarded, you already said that in your earlier post.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)20:54:56 No.103859534
>>103840994
Any Gentoo greybeard that can chime in?
My kernel just got "tainted" and I've no clue what that means. Randstruct bit the dust
[172018.036975] CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 2047 Comm: kworker/u16:7 Tainted: G                T  6.12.0-gentoo #3
[172018.036982] Tainted: [T]=RANDSTRUCT

Seems like it is now running with "unusual behaviour," whatever that means.
Problem is, I'm in the middle of compiling a system update.
Could that in any way affect my compiled packages? Should I stop and recompile?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)21:20:29 No.103859808
>>103859534
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.html
Unless your system breaks or bugs out it's nothing to worry about. It sounds your taint might be struct randomization.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)21:24:41 No.103859844
>laptop suddenly extremely choppy
>htop didn't show anything abnormal
>laptop has ran hotter and was fine
>had to do full restart and its back to normal
I'm guessing its the video driver, I have integrated Radeon 760M graphics, what's my next step? Been poking around various forums but haven't found anything yet.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)21:25:20 No.103859850
>>103859808
Good to know, thanks!
I do have CONFIG_RANDSTRUCT_FULL set.
I'll read more about it.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)21:25:37 No.103859851
>>103857355
proc_pid_stat(5)
https://man.archlinux.org/man/proc_pid_stat.5.en
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)22:29:31 No.103860324
>>103841245
>>103847940

Just gave up and went back to ventoy, while it keeps breaking on linux I installed a windows vm just to use it and there seems to work without issues.
FIREHAWKS 01/11/25(Sat)22:43:34 No.103860429
>>103841035
HA!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)22:52:47 No.103860494
I give up on Arch and Ubuntu and sold myself to Endeavor. Kill me.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:10:28 No.103860645
uneven-distribution-blades-v0-tcow68j5mkza1
Does ubuntu-server include snapd by default? If so, are any snap packages installed by default? Can snapd be trivially removed?

Are there any other CLI only Ubuntu based distros that dont have snapd installed by default?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:12:14 No.103860666
>>103840994
>jpg
completely inappropriate file format for that image. Please re-take the screenshot, and destroy the cancerous jpg you posted.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:14:11 No.103860689
Has anyone tried to get bussy to add thumbnail generation in the file picker?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:15:11 No.103860699
>>103860645
If you want a server os without snap, pick debian
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:21:53 No.103860754
1733597578245412
I cant ever successfully get Nvidia working on Debian. Nvidia offers features I need so unfortunately I cant switch to AMD or Intel.
I follow the instructions on Debians site but it never works. I can only ever get it working using "driver-manager" or "mintdrivers", which is only available on Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distros like Mint.
It allows simply selecting the Nvidia driver and rebooting and it always has just werked for me.

Has anyone tried getting this program to run on Debian?

I prefer my OS installs to be minimal. Usually just tint2 for the panel, and a simple WM like OpenBox or IceWM. No login manager; I login on the CLI, then start the GUI using startx.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:24:03 No.103860772
>>103860699
see
>>103860754
tldr I can never get nvidia to work on debian but ubuntu/mint include a program that makes nvidia just werk. And nvidia offers features i require which dont work on AMD and I think not Intel either
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:25:23 No.103860788
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:26:46 No.103860798
>>103860754
I haven't run into this with nvidia, but have with network cards. debian proper is difficult with unknown software/hardware
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:27:03 No.103860801
>>103847559
its cuz you typo the file system. you wrote etx4, but it should be ext4
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:28:54 No.103860819
>>103854258
works beautifully on ubuntu and mint, but difficult to get working on other distros

>>103854576
do you use nvidia with ubuntu/mint, or a different distro?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:32:37 No.103860867
>>103854689
AMD cant force full screen anti-aliasing but Nvidia can.
I like playing old games based on Quake3 and stuff which dont have an option to turn on AA in the game itself. Nvidia lets you force FSAA and anisotropic filtering.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:37:12 No.103860903
>>103856614
AMD does have a caveat. You cant force FSAA. They used to let you until 2013, but Phoronix did a review where they forced FSAA in the driver AND turned it on in the game resulting in artifacts. This article caused the dev to block the ability to force AA using the driver.

The whole point of forcing AA via the driver is specifically to get AA in games without the option built in, so removing it because someone misused it was pretty fucking dumb.
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:40:35 No.103860935
>>103860798
>I haven't run into this with nvidia
do you mean youve gotten nvidia working on debian, or that you just never tried
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:51:35 No.103861033
125140970_p0_master1200
Hi guys, when I'm running a game using Gamescope from Lutris I'm unable to use the F key as it just toggles fullscreen (I"m not hitting the meta key). I'm using the latest Plasma. When running Gamescope games from Steam it works fine. Any ideas?
Anonymous 01/11/25(Sat)23:56:21 No.103861072
vArch
My virtual server started acting up, takes like a minute before it lets me SSH in. And this:
# systemctl status
Failed to connect to system scope bus via local transport: Connection refused

Where to begin? And yes, I know it's insane to use Arch as a server.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)00:02:53 No.103861126
>>103841407
first thing you need to do is switch your screenshot program to not save as jpg
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)00:04:40 No.103861142
>>103860903
Forced AA was always a gay driver hack. Just install the hi-res patch from pcgw and run VSR or have a decent monitor.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)00:43:51 No.103861462
>>103861072
>I know it's insane to use Arch as a server.
Not really. The base system is quite stable, and updates don't get applied to running services until they restart.

>>103861142
>or have a decent monitor.
AA is intended to be used with AF, disabling either results in a worse image no matter the resolution.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)00:51:31 No.103861538
>>103861462
>updates don't get applied to running services until they restart
Obviously the changed/updated binary on the disk doesn't affect anything that's currently running. Regardless the distribution.
>updates don't get applied to running services until they restart
Is there a feature just in case I *wanted* that? (why shouldn't the service restart?)
>>103860645
>CLI only Ubuntu based distros
Anything that uses APT can be bootstrapped into a minimal system. https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:00:18 No.103861599
>>103861142
>Forced AA was always a gay driver hack
wtf no it wasnt. worked great for me on the FOSS radeon driver until 2014 or 2015 when the driver diverged too much and i couldnt even compile the option back in.

And its been working flawlessly for me with nvidia since.

Forced AA is a basic feature that all GPU drivers should allow and accomodate.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:29:33 No.103861795
I discovered CatchyOS and it's probably my favorite distro now
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:32:50 No.103861807
Anyone using neovim and blink?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:36:55 No.103861834
>>103861462
Nobody was talking about AF
>no matter the resolution
It's the PPI not the resolution.

>>103861599
It happened to work in some games, but it was a gay driver hack which would never work everywhere, and that's why they removed it. I can't remember the last time I wanted it. Either play the game blocky as it was intended or patch it to support higher resolutions and downsample.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:40:52 No.103861862
>>103861072
>systemd errors
save your sanity and just reinstall
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)01:58:54 No.103861982
>>103861072
Did you update Systemd? You might have to perform the dangerously
systemctl daemon-reexec
ritual
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:00:21 No.103861988
Reboot animation
>>103861862
Luckily reboot helped.
>>103861982
Going to try that next time, thanks.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:34:08 No.103862185
>>103861834
>It happened to work in some games, but it was a gay driver hack which would never work everywhere, and that's why they removed it.
It literally worked everywhere unless AA was also enabled in the game/program, resulting in a conflict. Any non-lazy dev would do what nvidia does, and in event of a conflict, either:
respect the game setting and disable the driver override
ignore the game setting and respect the driver override
and nvidia also allows "enhancing", ie augmenting or using both.

When i used forced AA w the open source radeon driver, i enabled it with an environment variable in a script which also started the game. so it took a conscious effort to enable. in other words, not the sort of thing to just get accidentally enabled. and if problems do occur, simply launching the game normally fixes it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:38:25 No.103862206
>>103861834
>Either play the game blocky as it was intended or patch it to support higher resolutions and downsample.
or just use nvidia.
nvidia also has top notch CLI options and scripting ability. Im sure AMD and Intel are not bad in this regard, but pretty sure Nvidia is best.
Nvidia allows easily setting clock speeds, watt limits, temp limits and targets, fan speeds, etc
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:52:46 No.103862276
I've never had a butter smooth linux experience. I seem to get minor stutter on videos, and even scrolling in a web browser sometimes has a little lag sometimes, it annoys me. I use Linux Mint and besides the stutter issue, I love it. The DE, the default software, the simple GUI utilities.

I have nvidia 3070, latest proprietary drivers
Ryzen 7 5800X3D

Would switching to Wayland resolve my problem? And would Fedora be the most suitable distro if so, I tried Arch before a few years ago, but a pacman upgrade all broke my system, and I got sick of tinkering / spending so much time reading wiki pages.

Thank you and God bless
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:54:48 No.103862286
>>103862276

I should also mention I use two monitors with variable refresh rate, which I have read can cause these issues. Strangely, if I set both monitors to 60Hz, the lag issue is multiplied and performance is unusable, but setting my primary monitor to 144Hz somewhat relieves the issue, there is still stutter but not as much.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)02:55:35 No.103862294
>>103862276
Cinnamon is horribly unoptimized. Switch to a better X11 DE and/or a more up to date distro.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)03:52:54 No.103862626
volumetric-hard-disk-or-disk-drive-icon-on-the-network-vector
What are some ways of mirroring a directory (or an entire filesystem if that's a requirement) between two Linux boxes?
Idea being a build directory where each can build their own binaries. Thought this being more just-works than distcc or whatever. And I'm not after distributed compiling anyway, those builds aren't that big.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)05:02:19 No.103863012
>>103841407
w i r e g * * r d
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)05:53:33 No.103863331
>>103844579
For what reason are you stuck with Windows?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)07:14:26 No.103863808
>>103854844
these days i only use hdd's for mass storage (that is, read/writing large files in a contiguous fashion, like media and backups), and for that it's fine. i couldn't comment on other uses
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)07:16:08 No.103863824
Screenshot From 2025-01-12 14-15-31
What did the trannies mean by this?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)07:26:18 No.103863891
>>103855893
since you have more than 3 discs, you can use raid10, there should be a write performance advantage compared to using raid1. the redundancy is the same however (guaranteed safe from one disc failure)
>>103857717
btrfs is unique when it comes to handling differently-size or odd-number of discs ("odd" used here with regards to how the raid type works rather than literal odd numbers, like with traditional raid10 you'd use multiples of 4 drives). btrfs allocates data in 1GiB chunks, and it's these chunks which are raided, so to speak. this allows it to spread around each (set of) chunk(s) based on how much space is available on the discs, so like for a 5-disc raid10, it might pick discs 0-3 for the first chunk, then 1-4 for the second, 2-0 for the next, etc, spreading the load and using all the space even though it's writing chunks to 4 discs at a time. it only cares that raid chunks are written to unique drives to satisfy the redundancy requirement of the raid level, they don't have to be the same discs each time
same goes for btrfs raid1, it writes chunks to any two discs, whichever has the most available space, so you can have n-disc volumes while having just two copies of data (or 3 if using raid1c3)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)07:48:03 No.103864032
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:17:29 No.103864781
>>103863891
>so like for a 5-disc raid10, it might pick discs 0-3 for the first chunk, then 1-4 for the second, 2-0 for the next, etc, spreading the load and using all the space even though it's writing chunks to 4 discs at a time.
Data recovery must be fun as hell.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:27:19 No.103864855
>>103864781
if your data recovery plan isn't "restore from a backup", you probably shouldn't be looking at btrfs. and i say this as someone who uses btrfs
btrfs restore is pretty nice, but regardless of filesystem, you really should not be relying on data recovery solutions in the event you lose too many discs
as for raid10 specifically, i have all but spelled it out, but with traditional raid10, it's /possible/ (but not guaranteed!) to lose more than one disc without loss (depends on if the second disc is in a different stripe or not), though it's not guaranteed. with btrfs however, i'm not sure it's possible at all to lose more than one disc, just due to how it works
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:29:14 No.103864872
>>103863331
my linux-compatible desktop pc's died and i'm left only with my gaming laptop which sucks ass in linux
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:29:35 No.103864874
RAID6
>>103855893
RAID6+EXT4, stop monkeying around.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:32:49 No.103864904
>>103862206
>setting clock speeds, watt limits, temp limits and targets, fan speeds, etc
AMD and Intel have that too. Maybe not 'easily' if you're bothered by sysfs, but from a deployment standpoint it's pretty great being able to save all that to a sysctl.d entry and have it just work out of the box on every distro.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:45:14 No.103865011
>>103864781
Having pet filesystems on a RAID is moronic.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)09:48:03 No.103865035
1691911184614423
Is there any blu-ray player software that is not complete shit? That is, Leawo is often recommended but it's fucking awful.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:07:24 No.103865192
>>103854689
RADV is so much faster than Nvidia its not even funny
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:14:26 No.103865259
>>103862626
You mention distcc is this because you want to compile for the other machine?

You can use NFS to mount the other system and then chroot into it. Yes, this works.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:16:29 No.103865284
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:18:42 No.103865311
>>103865284
>>103865035
Mpv doesn't support those annoying menu screens you get in DVDs and Blu-ray's but otherwise is very good.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:27:31 No.103865399
>>103865311
>Mpv doesn't support those annoying menu screens you get in DVDs and Blu-ray's but otherwise is very good.
VLC
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:35:50 No.103865488
>>103840994
I just noticed a login with Wayland (experimental) option on my Mint Cinnamon edition login screen. I don't really know anything display managers but I think I'm on X11 by default. What are the advantages of using Wayland instead and is it going to break my configs if I log in that way?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:36:46 No.103865504
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION
>>103865259
>You mention distcc is this because you want to compile for the other machine?
Yes. Current scheme:
>have Linux kernel sources + build directory on machine A
>machine B mounts sources + build via NFS
>machine B enters the build dir
>copies arch/x86/boot/bzImage over to a proper location
>install modules via "make modules_install"
So. I *could* do all this by pulling the image and /lib/modules/<version>/ via rsync, right?
Honestly I'd rather not use NFS or SMB or anything. Is my shit all retarded?

>You can use NFS to mount the other system and then chroot into it
chroot?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:40:20 No.103865543
>>103865504
With NFS you'd:
>Mount machine B on machine A
>Chroot into machine B from machine A
>Do the kernel build and install in the chroot

Understandable if you don't want to go through all of that though in which case your best bet is probably Rsync.

Does the distro have a package manager? You could package up the kernel and make a binary repo and then install from that. This would be the best way of doing it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:44:32 No.103865594
>>103865543
>You could package up the kernel and make a binary repo and then install from that.
Isn't that an insane amount of extra work compared to the build itself?
(besides in my opinion package managers shouldn't even do kernels or bootloaders. Or wallpaper or font packs or anything that's not a dependency/dependent)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:49:56 No.103865651
>>103865594
>Isn't that an insane amount of extra work compared to the build itself?
How so? It's basically a fancy zip file with some extra metadata. The Linux build system can even do this for you and make debs, rpms and Pacman packages.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:52:29 No.103865678
>>103865651
>>103865594
Also checkout
make dir-pkg
that's really useful. I use that to make a directory tree for my OpenWRT kernels and then rsync that over to my router. Just remember to delete
tar-install/boot/vmlinux-*
(you don't need it, the vmlinuz file is enough to boot)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)10:59:48 No.103865750
2025 btw
my gtk key theme (emacs) stopped working in brave, why? it works in both chromium (same version) and firefox
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:38:10 No.103866147
1672462883817343
>>103854555
>>103854589
Let me know if there's any ideas.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:45:20 No.103866234
>>103865311
>doesn't support the most basic function of a Bluray besides playing the movie
>the annoying menu screen where you can access things besides the movie itself

Is this the program people keep shilling as better than VLC?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:51:24 No.103866311
>>103866147
have you checked if firmware is properly loading?
dmesg | grep iwlwifi
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:52:47 No.103866330
>>103860645
My VPS runs Ubuntu and snapd isn't even installed by default.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:56:12 No.103866373
>>103865311
>doesn't support those annoying menu screens
>otherwise is very good.
Isn't it an advantage to not support annoying shit?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)11:57:05 No.103866387
>>103866311
Looks like it
[243815.710556] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Unhandled alg: 0x707
[265344.469359] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Unhandled alg: 0x707
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:00:47 No.103866431
Did anyone else manage to connect to one of the VPN Gate's servers while on Linux? I had no issues with other VPN sites using OpenVPN to connect yet I do the usual steps with importing the ovpn files in the network manager (with open vpn plugin) yet it fails to connect. VPN Gate's software is Windows only but that shouldn't matter if I'm only using their openvpn file, right? There's an outdated tutorial online that managed to do that on Linux but I don't know if anything has changed in the meantime because what worked for them doesn't work on my machine anymore.
Otherwise, any recs for sites with decent free VPN servers would be appreciated.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:02:10 No.103866452
>>103866431
might want to skip network manager and just run in the console as root
openvpn <path_to_ovpn_file>
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:04:45 No.103866494
>>103866387
I see, have you tried a similar workload but under Windows? This for the purpose of troubleshooting a possible hardware failure instead of a driver issue. I've had similar experiences in the past
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:07:01 No.103866522
>>103866234
There's an included select.lua script for navigating DVD/BD titles through a text menu. Most graphical title select screens are awful and come with long intro/outro to hide disk loading time.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:16:28 No.103866620
>>103866494
Problem seems specific to Linux, been awhile since I've had Windows installed on my personal devices but I know I never had this issue with Windows. My work laptop (Windows) also doesn't have this problem.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:18:24 No.103866641
>>103866620
you might want to test on the same machine, same wireless device but different OS (windows) to discard hardware issue as stated earlier
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:21:28 No.103866672
terminal
>>103866452
Thanks. I did that before with other vpn sites and it worked fine.
Here I type in the following in the terminal:
sudo openvpn --config Downloads/vpngate_vpn119293982.opengw.net_udp_1954.ovpn

And the result is pic related so I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've added 'remote-cert-tls server' and uncommented 'auth-user-pass' in the config file but with or without it, it fails to connect.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:23:49 No.103866694
>>103866522
I agree, I just thought I'd mention it. It can still play the movie which is what you really care about. Nobody gives a shit about what little animation or easter egg they chose to put in the menu.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:25:44 No.103866710
>>103866672
Alright, edit your config file, add the following lines at the end of the file, and try again
data-ciphers AES-128-CBC
data-ciphers-fallback AES-128-CBC
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:46:23 No.103866930
>>103866694
>forgetting that the menu also includes subtitle settings or bonus features
Why talk about Blurays when you literally don't care about movies
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:48:37 No.103866956
>>103866710
I love you anon! Thank you!
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:49:08 No.103866966
>>103866930
They show up as separate video tracks still and so do subtitles. When you have a real video player instead of a shit Bluray player then you can actually adjust these things and more.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)12:51:00 No.103866988
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)13:04:22 No.103867146
>>103856027
hdr is snakeoil that only shitty tv slop and bad overpriced games that are released incomplete full of bugs benefit from in the first place
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)13:07:32 No.103867190
>>103867146
How is it snake oil? Are you talking about the shit "fakeDR" implementations (also known as HDR10, shame on VESA for allowing that to be standardised)? With the right equipment it works great and presents an obvious benefit.

>>103856027
Yes, just use KDE Plasma 6.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)13:16:38 No.103867319
Why do Wine prefixes symlink to your "real" user folders, but Proton doesn't?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)13:17:44 No.103867344
>>103867319
Valve probably modified it not to do that.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:09:59 No.103868762
>>103867319
Last time wine didn't do it either, which is cool with me.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:10:33 No.103868773
Is there some kind of comprehensive guide for configuring Ejabberd to run at high performance and to enable all modern Jabber features?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:24:28 No.103868915
Switched to Mint from microshit. I installed brave browser through software manager with the flatpak, brave started hanging up. Review said to do it from the website, because the flatpak is shit and causes freezes.

I did that, after a restart when I open brave with a lot of tabs, it hangs up again. Not just Brave, but my entire System is completely unresponsive. No registering of clicks, only thing I properly can so is restart through the the menu. And then it takes WAY longer to reboot, giving me a huge text of error / System messages first, before it fully reboots.

What can fix this? I don't wanna give up brave, but I also don't wanna switch back to microshit

Typing this from firefox with very few tabs open. No Brave running in the background
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:39:42 No.103869083
Thoughts on Ventoy? Seems very handy
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:45:23 No.103869152
>>103868915
>Review said to do it from the website,
what Review?

>but my entire System is completely unresponsive
have you checked your RAM usage?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:46:24 No.103869165
>>103869083
I just use dd
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:48:12 No.103869190
>>103869083
Schizo people say it's chinese botnet/spyware
Real people use it anyway.
I have two USB drives, one with Windows ISO from XP-11, + Win11 VM
The other has some utility distros
-Arch
-Manjaro
-Puppy
-Parrot
-Tails
-Parted Magic (Pirated)
-Hiren's boot CD (new and old)
-sergi's winPE
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:48:34 No.103869198
>>103864904
my bash script for my nvidia card works for any distro
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:48:38 No.103869199
>>103869165
How does dd allow you to have multiple ISOs on a single flash drive?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:49:19 No.103869208
>>103869198
Not if you don't install nVidia drivers first.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:50:00 No.103869219
>>103869199
why would I need more than one?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:51:21 No.103869237
>>103869208
And how would you use that nvidia gpu without its drivers anyway?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:51:21 No.103869238
>>103869219
Well, that's the point of Ventoy
If you don't need a functionality like that, that's fine
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:52:10 No.103869249
>>103869165
how do you make multiboot with dd

>>103869083
i made a ventoy usb and maybe 20% of the isos would actually boot. not to mention it kinda seems like sino-russian spyware
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:53:00 No.103869255
>>103869237
Why aren't the drivers built into the kernel? Is it a mental illness thing like those distros that remove all the firmware files?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:53:42 No.103869265
>>103869219
so you can have different isos for different use cases
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:55:48 No.103869298
>>103869255
because nvidia are faggots.
Still, saying you need to install the drivers first is kinda moot since you have to that anyway, if you use that anon's script or not.
Noveau is just not an alternative.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:56:50 No.103869313
>>103869265
isn't the usecase to install linux on the machine?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:57:10 No.103869317
>>103869208
since AMD and Intel dont allow forcing FSAA, they are useless to me. Nvidia actually functions as a GPU driver should.

With Ubuntu/Mint, enabling the Nvidia driver takes like 3 mouse clicks and a reboot. A lot easier than whatever temporary hack currently might maybe work to get Mesa to force some half assed shitty looking poor performing FSAA
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)15:59:10 No.103869345
>>103869313
no theres many more use cases for needing an OS ISO
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:00:32 No.103869366
>>103869345
>installing system
>fixing system
can't think of any more. Hence why dd is enough for me.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:13:14 No.103869528
>>103869317
Have you failed a Mesa bug report about this? You can't complain about it being shit quality if not.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:14:38 No.103869548
>>103869083
It's cool, not having to erase your USB every time you want to boot an ISO is surprisingly handy.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:20:24 No.103869634
>>103869366
memtest
winpe
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:21:52 No.103869650
>>103869634
>memtest
mkay
>winpe
useless to me
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:39:38 No.103869877
>>103869528
MESA refuses to support forced AA because it's a shitty driver hack, and the small handful of 25 year old games which are still worth playing and benefit from it all have better methods of achieving the same effect now.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:48:14 No.103869974
>>103869366
pen testing.
tails session.
different distros for different types of PCs

you are a very boring person
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)16:53:36 No.103870043
>>103869528
yes. their response was to contact that hundreds of projects, some of which arent foss and some of which arent actively maintained, and have them implement an option to enable FSAA there

>>103869877
its literally not a hack. they were just too lazy to fix a bug where if AA was turned on in-game AND forced via the driver. it would result in artifacts.

the 2 solutions are dont fix it and just tell users to not force AA if the game already has an option
or do what Nvidia does and allow the user to choose what happens in this event (respect game setting or respect driver setting)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:01:30 No.103870167
>>103870043
If it's not actively maintained then that might be a good candidate for re-writing its game engine to be more modern. There are FOSS re-implementations of some older games engines (for example, OpenMW) already. Re-writing the engine is obviously a lot of effort but you can make the abandonware actually useful then (OpenMW is basically the best way to play Morrowind now).
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:08:15 No.103870240
I'm going to be installing artix for steam gaming (probably plasma flavor)
- which init system should I pick
- will a gtx 1070 work fine without a ton of headaches
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:09:51 No.103870262
>>103870240
OpenRC is the best supported.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:10:17 No.103870264
>>103870167
>do a simple fix on one piece of software
>do a complex fix on hundreds of softwares
gee i wonder which makes more sense
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:10:29 No.103870266
>>103870262
cool thank
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:11:26 No.103870277
>>103870262
what about runit
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:12:33 No.103870292
>>103870240
10 series have particularly bad dx12 to vulkan performance(Unfixable hardware problem).
Aside from that it should be fine I guess. Usual nvidia linux quirks, arch wiki is your friend.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:14:43 No.103870310
>>103870264
The easy solution isn't always the right solution. If you want a hack then there's probably a .so or .I'll override you can do. If you want a proper implementation then sometimes re-building the foundations to be more solid is the only thing that makes sense.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:15:45 No.103870318
>>103870310
*.so or .dll override
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:16:42 No.103870332
>>103870292
should I use nouveau or proprietary drivers
I haven't used nvidia on linux in literal years so I don't know what the state is nowadays

(I will probably upgrade to a 7900xtx soon-ish anyway though which I assume should be fine because amd right)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:18:04 No.103870346
>>103870277
Service manager masquerading as an init system. It has no dependency system (the official "solution" to this is to have the service manager bounce the services up and down and prey and hope that eventually it gets into the right start order and everything gets brought up correctly)
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:19:58 No.103870364
>>103870332
>should I use nouveau or proprietary drivers
Not even a question, use proprietary. Get the DKMS one.
>I haven't used nvidia on linux in literal years so I don't know what the state is nowadays
Nouveau is still not good enough.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:20:32 No.103870370
>>103870364
rip
guess I should get amd asap
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:20:48 No.103870378
>>103840994
Anyone using Debian testing? How much attention does it need vs with stable? Has it crashed or bugged out on you?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:23:09 No.103870404
>>103870370
I mean I am daily diving nvidia and I am largely fine, but if you don't need CUDA like me or don't care about RT memes, then yeah sure.
I would also wait until 9070(xt) price and benches are known.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:24:00 No.103870419
>>103870404
>cuckram
nah
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:34:59 No.103870522
>>103869366
>small bb
>small pp
Booting linux in Live USB, having one UDB drive for the three major distro, running VMs on bare metal, different persistence, etc.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:40:07 No.103870582
>>103869199
>>103869265
dd if=/dev/yourOS of=/dev/yourusb/OS.iso conv=notrunc,noerror

dd if=/dev/yourOS2 of=/dev/yourusb/OS2.iso conv=notrunc,noerror
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:40:50 No.103870591
>>103870582
>noerror
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:43:08 No.103870628
>>103851939
Trinity Desktop Environment is a maintained version of KDE 3.5 and it werks.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:44:59 No.103870654
>>103870591
It's a CYA in case the disk is bad.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)17:58:01 No.103870815
>>103870582
This copies the content of a device and outputs it to a file on another device, right?
That's the opposite of putting an ISO file onto a usb drive
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:06:57 No.103870919
>>103870582
too bad that wont boot let alone allow you to choose which iso to boot
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:09:44 No.103870966
New thread:
>>103870960
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)18:16:45 No.103871058
Have any of you ever held the "Alt" key & dragged your mouse on the terminal text?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)20:27:45 No.103872413
>>103869083
I prefer a big stack of DVD.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:02:27 No.103872750
>>103860801
>>103853987
Fuck I'm retarded, thanks anons.
Would be nice if there was a more useful error code for it.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:30:54 No.103872959
>>103869237
Every GPU can display graphics without specific drivers, there's a standard framebuffer.
How do you figure any installer or BIOS or UEFI out there can output graphics? You think all of them carry Nvidia and AMD drivers?
>>103869208
Huh?
>>103869198
Distro-agnostic way is the best way.
>>103869199
Your question is all wrong.
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)21:33:20 No.103872977
>>103872413
Based optical media chad
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:19:42 No.103873357
>>103872413
Unironically makes sense in certain cases.
>>103872750
Also do a "nofail" for everything non critical.
>>103870262
>init
>support
What does this mean in layman terms?
Anonymous 01/12/25(Sun)22:37:20 No.103873484
>>103870043
>its literally not a hack
It doesn't work for all games and there's no way to make it work. It's a hack.