Why are people hyping up walmart jeans?

I love my jeans!

>>18370281
i bought a pair of raw rustlers bootcut for like 13 bucks and they're great. They bleed dye like crazy but I like the fit a lot and they're 100% cotton. they bleed dye like crazy though

>>18370321
the coal black ones are nice too. they fade very slowly and low contrast.

>>18370281
>https://files.catbox.moe/g8r7ir.jpg
>costs the same as a #1 meal
>raw, 1 wash, stone wash, black sulfur dyed
>better fit than a lot of japanese stuff

>>18370225
Got some new jeans and they're being dye all over my sneakers. Not complaining, I think it looks kind of cool, and I can always just wash it off. At what point do new jeans usually stop bleeding?

Why was this thread made? There is already a denim & workwear general.

>>18370408
same i love how denim crocking looks on some shoes. suckers pay $600 for golden goose sneakers with imitation crocking, so we're not crazy. it can look really cool to intentionally let your jeans bleed all over white, ecru or some light color canvas sneakers. especially on more long lasting ones where the upper will get a chance to age.
>At what point do new jeans usually stop bleeding?
depends so much on the fabric, and how much it rains and how humid it is where you live. sometimes a couple weeks sometimes a couple months sometimes several washes. rinsing your jeans can reduce it without many downsides.
>>18370413
that's a shitposting thread.

>>18370415
>that's a shitposting thread.
What do you mean? I mean, there is one ranting and raving deranged schizo but otherwise it seems fine

>>18370418
oh you mean the insane guy who keeps spamming "schizo schizo schizo schizo" over and over but doesn't own any jeans or know anything about fashion and hasn't touched a crumb of pussy? just ignore that eunuch. lmao.
4xha = ha ha ha ha captcha

>>18370420
That is very interesting. Can you tell me more about that?

>>18370225
Is Levi's still good?

>>18370431
no.
some of the lvc stuff can be worth buying if you find it at steep discount, mostly the pre distressed stuff. but you have to know the garment you're buying -- some of its good, some of its really inaccurate. den in denim on youtube is a good resource for that sort of thing.

>>18370437
Not even the regular cuts?

>>18370439
theres better for the price. the current year 501 cut sucks for a variety of reasons. some of the cuts like the 93 501 are better.
you can get better jeans elsewhere for the price or even just go on ebay/etsy/thrift sites and get 1970s to 1990s era vintage levi's for about the same price as levi's.
if your inseam is like 32 or shorter just get red tornado ww2/55501's. they cost the same as the cheap levi's if you wait for an aliexpress sale and they are nicer than their lvc counterparts by quite a bit.

>>18370444
Thanks I'll try that

>>18370446
autism option:
if you have some time to lurk ebay and shit, learn a little about dating vintage levi's and snag a pair from the first few years of when they switched from big E to small e. the fit was still pretty good and the fabric quality is more akin to the 60s era vintage jeans. with some free time and luck you can snag a pair no one bids on for less than levis at the mall cost.

good strategy for budget _vintage_ type 3 jackets too. they still fit like the 60s jackets in the early 70s and had nice fabric. easiest way to date those is look at the vertical stitch at the bottom center of the jacket by the button. single stitch = 71-72, double stitch = 73 on to somewhere in the 80s. tons of resellers list the single stitch ones without knowing what they are & auctions can be won super low.

the 1970s levi's sherpa truckers also get listed for way under value commonly and there's a lot of dead stock looking ones out there. going rate for dead stock looking ones is $200 but they can be sniped $20-50 without much effort. retardedly good deal for anons who want a warm nice looking jacket. generous fit that lets you layer. lean towards sizing big. synthetic liner but warm, and you can wash it.

>>18370450
fuck 1 thing i forgot. with vintage levi's jackets always check WOMEN'S listings. a lot of resellers see the shorter length -> tag is unreadable -> listed as women's -> no one bids/buys it -> insane dealz. this happens a lot with sz40 and lower jackets especially.

>>18370462
>>18370448
I'll check that out then

>>18370420
Literally all you have to do is not respond to him and then threads would not be derailed every single time by you bickering back and forth like a woman

I wore a pair of Wrangler Cowboy Cuts to a local store that sells selvedge and told them I wanted a pair of Wranglers but selvedge. They sold me a pair of Freenote wilkes cut in 15oz indigo and honestly it's a perfect fit. Highly recommend if you love 13MWZ but want selvedge.

Also picked up a pair of Sugar Cane workpants in this super cool ultra colorful slub denim, currently being hemmed at the store so no fit pic but the pictures don't do the material justice.

>>18370572
Which store? I’ll make sure to travel to your locality and rape you

>>18370572
Can you post side by side measurements? The size chart on Freenote's site makes them look slimmer in the leg and wider in the waist than 13mwz

>>18370595
yeah gimme like 20 min

>>18370595
here you go, not a true 1 to 1 since I wear a 32x34 Wrangler and bought a size 33 in Freenote

>>18370621
Hell yeah, cheers anon! One last thing- how'd you take the thigh measurements?

>>18370628
I sort of sloppy followed the Fit Guide from Ciano Farmer, I went an inch down from the center crotch seam and measured across. Please don't consider these measurements as gospel, I'm not a professional

>>18370633
All good! I also wear a lot of Wranglers so I just wanna have a standard of reference. Thanks!

>>18370639
Now what are you on about boy?

>>18370225
Belts piss me off. don't get me wrong, they look cool as fuck, but suspenders are objectively better at holding your pants up. Belts hardly get the job done, no matter how tight you buckle it, they will slip down when you sit. They will slip down slowly as the day passes. Am I supposed to be pulling my pants up every single time I stand back up?? Image not me btw problem is not that bad

I can't find ecru white selvedge denim with a high rise. Any recs?

Thoughts on UES? never see them mentioned here.

>>18370826
They are mentioned sometimes. Generally seen as a good value.

>>18370826
Sounds like this particular shirt isn't selvedge, if that matters to you.

>>18370621
What pen/ink?

>>18370826
havent tried on one of their denim shirts but i like their flannels better than ih. they have more less-safe flannel patterns which is appealing if you already have a bunch of neutral ones.

>>18370792
belts stay better if you don't have a gut (a bit of belly's fine) wear high rise, and wear the belt above not on your hips. with a little planning you can size your belts to be appropriate length worn both ways.
i agree with you on suspenders. taking style out of the equation and thinking from a strictly autistic function > * perspective, going from things like suspenders with sartorial waistbands to belts was a downgrade. suspenders let you wear looser fit pants and essentially up-size them a lot more than you can with a belt, without it looking odd when worn. they fell out of favor as guys started favoring slimmer fits that just didn't necessitate it, and grew used to the utility of having a thing around their waist that can support weight. obvious advantages for tradies, people who carry firearms etc.

>>18371046
Holy smokes. Reduce yapping please.

>>18370462
>with vintage levi's jackets always check WOMEN'S listings. a lot of resellers see the shorter length -> tag is unreadable -> listed as women's ->
Can confirm back in like 2009 i got a late 60s type 3 on eBay listed as a women's jacket for like $40

>>18371115
i just missed one in my size that went for $8 on shopgoodwill last week. i had things come up that day rip.

No one? >>18370819

Freewheelers

>>18371506
Schizo moment. Also those are all horrible recommendations.

>>18371539
>those are all horrible recommendations
true those are shit recs i mis remembered his post and thought he asked for mid rise. ecru/undyed repro fit is tricky, they're usually done as limited runs.

>>18370819
rakuten search for 'ecru pants' in moon rune https://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E7%94%9F%E6%88%90%E3%82%8A+%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E3%83%84/551177/
wear.jp ecru pants category https://wear.jp/men-category/pants/?tag_ids=7495
you can get a lot of the usa brands they wear like round house and stan ray way cheaper here. i'd recommend going something on the cheap side with undyed pants, they always get stains eventually.

Is TCB the best brand? They do made in Japan selvedge repros for half of what the other brands are charging?
Why pay 450 for Samurai when TCB does it for 200 or less?

>>18371563
Damn it must be so epic to be retarded.

>>18371564
You'd know all about that

>>18371563
They are great entry level for jap repro denim. Good value for sure, but there are other brands with nicer features, details, and slightly more interesting denim. Fullcount is known for being the zimbabwean cotton denim company, so all their denim arguably gets more soft than any other company without sacrificing any durability. Freewheelers probably has the nicest build quality out of all other repros with the addition of cool nifty features like anti rust buttons, rounded rivets. Their thread is also known to generally last longer and be more fray resistant compared to other repro brands, and their denim is very interesting with the addition of small vertical slub threads. You can buy these jeans from Japan for $200-250 instead of paying $300-450 in the US. Also, comparing TCB to samurai is fucking retarded and shows you know literally nothing. They are completely different beasts.

Samurai is a meme brand and overrated (and overpriced) as fuck
Keep crying

>>18371572
Comparing legit prices to a bootleg store that possibly sells stolen goods isn't really a fair comparison

anons how can you get jeans that wont shrink to be too small.. also what is this meme about raw denim or whatever they sound like they get disgusting and ruin whatever they touch with dye

>>18371721
assuming you aren’t a troll:
>most jap selvedge is one-washed, meaning that the overwhelming majority of the shrink is taken out. If you cold wash and hang dry (which should be done for all your cotton pieces of clothing), you should experience an unnoticeable amount of shrinkage which ends up just stretching back out to normal with a day of wear
>some brands sanforize their denim which removes any risk of shrinkage. The most known jap selvedge brand to do this is iron heart
>yes, indigo dye on a new pair of jeans will stain white t shirts and any light colored furniture. Not really a big deal in my opinion since I use oxyclean on all my whites and they remain vibrant
>you end up just getting a much more interesting pair of jeans with more character. Fading the denim yourself is part of what gives them more life compared to a pair of mall jeans
>don’t want to spend $200+? Just buy some wranglers and call it a day

>>18371731
thank you anon, i am trying to get into sewing and im not very good at clothes in general so i end up sounding like im baiting when i ask retarded questions sorry
jeans seem extremely hard so they probably wont be the first thing i do

>>18371721
>jeans that wont shrink to be too small
the way modern fashion brands do it with pre-washed/distressed jeans is they skew the pattern of the jeans. then then they fully shrink the fabric during the washing/distressing process. pattern making software can do the skew for you but it takes trial and error to know exactly how much to skew each fabric. its mostly a mass production thing.
most diy jeans i see you just forego all that and make them a little big then deal with any leg twist. sanforized denim or pre shrinking your denim before sewing can help too, but may affect final look.

>>18371721
>skew
in the opposite direction of the shrinkage, based on what twill pattern it uses.
basically you just know the jeans are going to shrink and twist so you pattern them to have opposite twist in them -> shrink them.

Bathroom 634 anon here.

Loose repro cuts really are the final redpill for lifters. Depending on glycogen stores and pump I can fluctuate as much as 5lbs in a 24 hour period, which makes anything too fitted a constant struggle of staying just lean enough to fit, but not so lean that they become too loose.

I'm going into a mini bulk right now and just 3 days in I'm seeing there's no way I can keep wearing my 634s. Switching primarily to my Samurai S3000 and ordered a pair of Oni 200zrbk to have a black denim in a similar loose cut.

I'm also looking at Freewheelers based on shirtless gym anon's recommendations but idk if they're different enough from SC1947s to justify the purchase.

Thanks for reading my blog

>>18370225
my levi's are crappy and i'm trying to branch out to some new manufacturers
is there any difference between lee and wrangler jeans? i see that they're owned by the same company

Does anyone have experience with the Sugar Cane 1962 (SC12962)? I'm searching for a classic looking type III jacket and it's either this or tcb 60s.

>>18371815
They're both good budget jeans provided you stick to the mainline 100% cotton offerings. Wrangler has better classic cuts since the 13mwz and derivatives are basically 1940s repros, but Lee does a really nice regular fit jean if you want something more modern.

>>18371804
I lift as well and find the 634 top block with lower rise does not work for me at all. I find the 888 top block much more comfortable, but the legs too tapered. Still on the hunt for denim that combines the two.

>>18371832
I can do either 634 or 888 but ONLY when I'm both cutting and neglecting glutes. The smallest my thighs get is 24" and my waist bottoms out around 31", so I need to upsize 2 or 3 in either cut by default. I'll buy the 1955 this coming restock though I'm a little worried a nearly 13" front rise may be too tall for my 5'9 manlet self.

I went against the advice here and got myself a pair of Iron Hearts 634 xhs in 25oz. Reason being that someone was selling a barely worn pair at a very good price. I've never owned IRs nor seen them in person before.
They're heavy and thick, like wearing a weighted blanket around your legs. I'm not impressed with the cut. Legs are OK but the rise could do with an inch or two of extra length, moreso considering that even with a belt, jeans this heavy will tend to sag at least a bit. Roomy enough for my ass and thighs, but not very shapely. Nice details and super stitching, these are built like tanks. Perhaos in 17 or 21oz they would look better. Definitely 25oz is a meme, unless you live close to the polar circle or you're a welder by trade.
Overall, I don't regret getting them and will wear them for the remainder of the winter, but not really impressed with Iron Heart. Wouldn't pay 300-400 for them. Starting to think that this high-end denim thing is a meme.

>>18371804
The Freewheelers 1947 differs slightly from the Sugarcanes with it having a slightly higher rise, slightly raised back pockets, and slightly more taper. Been taking a break from my Fullcount 0105 and wearing these instead this past week and can honestly say these could be considered the platonic ideal of a pair of 501s. A lot of people say that 1947 was the year that Levi’s really locked into something special, and I can see what they mean when I wear these. It’s a high rise, but the yoke is angled hard and the back pockets are raised high enough that even if you wanted to slouch them below your hip shelf they still look really great. I have long legs, so slouching them balances my proportions and is most comfortable for me. Flawless leg mobility. These slight adjustments in rise, back pocket position, and taper make them a better pair compared to the Sugarcanes. That said, I love a more “wide from top down” repro and there is therefore nothing wrong with the sugarcanes. However, literally everything about these jeans are perfect and refined to a higher degree. $250 if you purchase from Speedway Sendai or some other retailer off Rakuten. My only complaint is that I wish they made more with 34” inseams, but its not a dealbreaker for me

>>18371855
None of the IH cuts are great (but I don’t have experience with 1955). I do like the overdyed, 21 oz, and 16 oz slubby denim.

>>18371858
The sagging SC back pockets do annoy me. I have to wear them basically on my hips to avoid crotch bunching and at that point the pockets aren't doing my ass any favors.

How does the sizing compare to your S3000? I'm a 32 in Sammies and eyeing a 32 in the Freewheelers also.

>>18371866
Yeah, the backside of the SC is not as sexo. At least for me, they just don’t have much shape to them and end up being too baggy. The ass on the Freewheelers is SEXO, honestly quite similar to 13mwz, but not quite as tight or slim. If you like your size in the s3000, order the same size in the 1947. I have size 34 in both. The thigh widths are quite similar, with the levels of taper and rise differing between the two cuts

>>18371863
If the rise was a mere inch higher I would have zero complaints. As they are, the top block looks dwarfed compared to the legs. Perhaps it wouldn't be that much of an issue on lighter fabric, idk.

>>18371870
Damn anon, I may need to get a pair. I'm trying to keep new cops to a minimum, but weight fluctuations make it a bitch. I'm almost thinking I should just bite the bullet and buy some cinch back denim...

>>18371881
If weight fluctuation is a hurdle for you, then a cinch back would probably be your best option, I know Freewheelers has one if you really like their denim and details. However, if you end up getting a pair that ends up being slightly big on you one day due to losing weight, I would argue that slightly oversized jeans can look really awesome as long as you’re able to use a belt. It’s pretty much what the repro autists in Japan have been doing for decades to get that awesome relaxed drape. Im biased and will tell you to get the 1947 for how universal and platonic the cut is. They’re relaxed, but not too wide. If you lose weight, cinch a belt and enjoy your sick looking vintage drape

>>18371891
This whole post is so soi it makes me homicidal. Fuck you faggot
>MUH SICK VINTAGE DRAPE BRO
LMAO FUCKING FAG

HOLY SHIT.

>>18371816
I narrowed it down to the same 2 brand’s type IIs. I went with the TCB.

>>18371891
Yeah I'm just going cinch. Just ordered some UES 17oz classic straight. Only $170 and everything else I've gotten from UES has punched significanly above its price point.

best place to get your shit hemmed?

>>18371916
Self Edge, The Shop Vancouver, Standard and Strange. They all have Union Special machines which allow for the traditional chain stitch hem

>>18371897
>I went with the TCB
Any particular reason why?

>>18371920
Anon recommended TCB. And it was cheaper.

Also idk if sugar cane uses sugar cane fabric in all their stuff but it seems like a meme. Id rather just have cotton.

>>18371928
Yeah TCB is a little bit cheaper but I was afraid the quality was lower

>>18371931
Only their Okinawa and Hawaii jeans. Their basic offerings are 100% cotton

yes

>>18371858
they shouldnt be so baggy at the knee they literally look like womens pants i think the japs fucked u bro

>>18371955
>but I was afraid the quality was lower
It isn't
And the only place you should buy Sugar cane is from Japanese websites like Hinoya.

is selvedge denim actually better

>>18372220
yes in practice, no in theory.
there's stuff you can do on a shuttle loom that you can't on a projectile loom. these things have more of a subjective 'apples orange' difference than an objective one.
you can set up a projectile loom to make really nice denim but in the real world 99%+ are set up for speed and unit cost not quality. they used to make more high end non selvedge denim in the 70s-00s. most of it is luxurious denim with uber soft handfeel, not rugged strong denim.

>>18371563
>>18371568
the main thing i dislike about tcb is they're on the slim side for repro especially at lower tag sizes. i like repro that leans towards the wider side but if you like tcb's fit i could see one not really having any reason to ever get into more expensive brands.

>>18370420
>doesn't own any jeans
I would say this is impossible but I have a friend who's never eaten bologna.

>>18372222
Can shuttle looms theoretically produce heavyweight denims?

Would this be a proper small double cuff or is it supposed to be even smaller? Thumb for scale.

>>18372306
dude what those atrocious boomer sneakers
i can't even see your jeans because of that eye cancer holy fuck

>>18372309
Just some random cheap running shoes. "Beaters" one might say.

>>18372222
Can projectile looms theoretically produce selvedge denims?

>>18372222
Can theoretical looms theoretically produce theoretical denims?

>>18371568
>comparing TCB to samurai is fucking retarded and shows you know literally nothing
Yeah, I'm pretty fucking sure that having an encyclopedic knowledge of blue jeans is retarded, anon. I'm also pretty sure I am not the first person to tell you this.

>>18372306
Double cuffs should measure between 1.5-1.75” in thickness

>>18372356
There’s a phenomena called the Dunning Kruger effect. I strongly suggest you read into it

>>18372300
i am assuming you mixed up shuttle loom (selvedge) and projectile loom (non selvedge)
yes iron heart does it https://www.ironheartamerica.com/content/21ozblknons
it requires more retooling and cost than setting up a shuttle loom to do it, but it produces a tighter more exact weave than shuttle looms, faster and more cheaply.

>>18372317
no.

>>18372330
yo dawg.

>>18372251
europeans.

>>18372306
step 1 - does this cuff look good, or bad how it sits on my preferred footwear?
step 2 - does this cuff hold w/ how thick or thin this denim is?
just fuck around with it till you're satisfied there's no hard rules just guidelines. the right cuff, stack, or lack thereof is the one that makes the leg drape good with the shoe/boot its paired with.

>>18372356
'nice jeans' has genuinely gotten my dick wet more than equivalent hookers would have cost. worth the cost of entry for that alone. i see so many guys incel themselves with the way they dress.

>>18372377
>'nice jeans' has genuinely gotten my dick wet more than equivalent hookers would have cost.

holy cope

>>18372387
i'm talking about the 2010's anon. wearing skinny jeans before the redditors and lumberfaggots got ahold of them usually meant you dressed like a dior model, indie sleaze, emo etc and those guys (including me) definitely fucked. what would you know with only a mere two or three inches though?

>>18372078
>And the only place you should buy Sugar cane is from Japanese websites like Hinoya
Why?

>>18372356
Absolutely based. Denim is for fags

>>18372356
Imagine trying to shame someone for being knowledgeable on something. Why are you such a nigger?

>>18372458
You mad you little faggot?

>>18372498
It’s time for you to take your meds you schizophrenic freak.

how come you need a verified email to post pictures in the denim thread
this guy >>18371858 is a fake persona the janny created using images he steals from instagram btw

>>18372551
Not reading all that you schizo retard.

>>18372553
Bait

>>18372551
You need to get a job.

>sits in the denim thread 24/7 deleting posts pretending to be mutiple people
>thread is locked down so you need a verified email to post images
>but the constant influx of rule breaking rage bait posts are left up
>4 "why is it s*y" threads a day
janny pls

>>18372570
Schizo moment.

>>18372576
schizo moment.

>>18372585
Huh? Who are you talking to lil bro?

>>18372587
Why don't you tell us?

>>18372597
What are you getting at? I think it’s time for your medication. Nurse!

Alright guys, I’m officially done with 4chan. Just pure faggotry, trolling, schizophrenia, and off topic rants. This board is absolutely fucking cooked

>>18372607
Who are you talking about?

>>18372605
>This board is absolutely fucking cooked
See you tomorrow retarded faggot zoomer

remember: you can get rugga the janny to go insane and lock generals so they require a verified email to post pics if you spam rugga's doxx and shitty little clitty.
he also hates it when you spam more active boards like /v/ /fit/ /pol/ etc.
4chan dot club / 4chan dot pw = ban evade for free, works with a vpn or tor. probably a dataminer but use it to torment the janny's.

>check jeans online
>starting to feel like I want to eat the model's ass
>jerk off to twink porn
>no purchase
Everytime.

>>18372660
Can you please clarify? First I’m hearing of this

>>18371858
One more cut to put on your radar anon- Japan Blue loose fit (the black ones are J516 or J514 iirc). They're not anything special denimwise, but they're a very repro-esque cut with a 13" front rise, 13.5" thighs, and a leg opening around 8.5" that (imo) wears a little wider because the taper is right at the bottom. And all that at tag 31. Also a zip fly if you're into that. I sized them tight when I first got them which led to some wonkiness with the drape, but once I lost a bit of weight and slouched them a tiny bit (still above the hip shelf), they fall really nicely. They're also usually <150 from nipland.

It’s time for the diaper shitzo to take his meds.

its time for a mentally ill guy to spend another 8 hours spamming 'take your meds' and 'schizo' in the 4chan denim thread. like he does every day.

>>18372683
I’m coming for your ass whitey poorfag manlet schizo.

oh no the itty bitty shitty little clitty committee is "comin fo yo ass"

>>18372686
Who are you talking about?

https://warosu.org/fa/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=who+talking
its on loop

>>18372688
Huh? Take your meds.

>>18372688
This is my thread boy. Better not forget that

>>18372683
>>18372686
>>18372688
You definitely suck cock. So suck some cock, cocksucker.

big tough words from a shitty little clitty virgin boy

>>18372691
Uhh based. Show him who’s boss

Shitzo has been raped.

he spends his whole life on 4chan because his tiny little clitty is shitty

It’s over for the shitzo.

>>18372698
I raped you schizo.

man i love having a fat girthy 7" cock
doesnt it suck knowing every single one of the denimchads has a bigger dick than you black boi?

Mind melted by the BBC. The fate of all shitzos

8==D two whole inch
nooooo i hate god and i love lucifer because i'm a faggot nigger with a little shitty clitty!! i can't be a good person its too difficult!

shitting on cock

smearing shit

Le shitzo got so BTFO he can’t even post in full sentences any more. Many such cases

poorfags shitters poofters

Total destruction

Total shitzo humiliation.

Death nuke

daffuqqq

Are ya winnin’ schizo?

drinking piss and cruisin

click here for options

>>18372363
Nonsensical post.
>>18372458
Being the world's foremost expert on Chinese blue jeans is not something to strive for, you fucking weirdo. It's so trivial I don't think think you even qualify as a pedant.

>>18372766
Nigger, what he likes to spend his time becoming an expert in is his business. If you don't like it then you can fuck off from these threads. Nobody is forcing you to be here and read his posts.

>>18372766
And yet here you are continuing to post. I’m sure you’re “so above it all”

>>18372776
Shut the fuck up faggot. No one cares about your irrelevant opinion

>>18372409
NTA but you get Sugarcanes dirt cheap that way when you compare to US/Euro prices.

If you're trying to buy any Japanese denim, buy from Japanese stores like Hinoya, Celluloid 1984, Bears, Rodeo, Okayama, Takeoff, etc. The prices will be significantly cheaper, you'll have models that don't get sold outside of Japan, shipping is fast as fuck,etc.
You can even work around retard jap brands that won't sell Ironheart at Japanese prices to non japs if you go through a proxy.

This is true for most brands btw, it's normally cheaper to buy them in the country they're made in and have them shipped. Indigofera is an example, they're cheaper at stores like Second Sunrise when compared to US stores.

speaking of japanese denim are there any brands that have good women's jeans? my sister needs new ones and i think it'd be cool

>>18372820
TCB Normas.

>>18372820
Depending on her build, she may be able to get away with repro cuts. The trim waist and loose leg lends itself equally well to women and gymbros.

Otherwise off the top of my head TCB has a women's jean, SDA has a few models (anything with the SDL product code), and N&F unironically has a fantastic womens/repro cut in the "Classic" jean

>>18372821
>>18372826
thank you anons.. im not the smartest when it comes to fitting this sort of thing for women but hopefully it's not super different or anything

Any given thread on /vt/ is unironically better than this general

>>18372836
This general is the eternal battleground for the schizo and the troll. Everything else ITT is irrelevant.

>>18372841
there is no "schizo"
the "troll" is a janny
rugga's existence is COMMON FUCKING SENSE
on basically every other board on this website. half of you post on /fit/ i'm sure? you don't know who rugga is?
you can even go off site and ask about rugga you morons. go on sharty. go on kiwi. go on like any altchan. search the archive on /v/ /fit/ /pol/ /g/ etc. you are so gullible and or ignorant.

>doug threads
>low t white guy threads
>why is it s*y
>shilling spironolactone in balding general
>renaming hair loss general to balding general (more demoralizing)
>shilling spironolactone in skincare general
>white tranny webm spam
>interracial couple webm spam
>anon in the denim thread who recognized the schizo janny as the schizo poster in the /mu/ guitar general
>various anons who have said they recognize the schizo janny's writing style as the watch thread schizo and the boot thread schizo
>i can keep going on
>none of this shit used to be here
>waywt raided for days. i have never posted in waywt.
how dumb are some of you npc golems? i know 99% of it is the janny samefagging but get a fucking clue RETARD.

No one gives a fuck you retarded schizophrenic freak.

they're kinda like naruto and sasuke

the janny will post 5 times in a row pretending to be multiple people calling me schizo (cool & normal behavior) and pretend its not plain as day he's the janny: while the thread is locked so no one can post images after we saw him sit in this thread for a month pruning posts live.
you have to be bordering on brain dead retarded to actually believe there's no "janny" or that anyone is "getting trolled" or "schizo"

>>18372907
It’s time for your medicine.

>>18372908
>>18372905
samefag 30 more times mentally ill schizo
>DARVO is an acronym for Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. It's a pattern of behaviors used by perpetrators of abuse to deflect blame and responsibility

>>18372909
What are you talking about small son?

>>18372911
im older than you, taller than you, stronger than you and my dick is SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than yours tiny little shitty clitty boy
but keep coping and projecting you fat little midget

>>18372914
Huh? What are you going on about now?

>>18372916
how much better i am than you schizo
plain to see tiny little shrimp boy

>>18372919
I’m having a hard time following your schizo rambling. Do better.

Schizophrenics are often low IQ. Sad

clitty schizo

>>18372929
Huh? Speak up when you’re talking to me son

>>18372675
Even worse when you realize 95% of models are hideous blacks

Chrome hearts
What happened to that brand?

>>18372809
Is Denimio a good website?

>>18373162
Absolutely, one of the better ones and occasionally they get interesting exclusives/collabs.

>>18372929
Wakie wakie schizo. It’s time for your medicine. Gonna cry boy?

>>18372958
You wouldn't eat a black ass?

>>18373162
It is a site geared towards r*dditors that are afraid of rakuten

>>18373254
good on them to avoid possibly stolen or bootleg merchandise

Is this stacking excessive?

The asses on Redcast all look atrocious

>>18373373
Looks fine but personally I'd do one small cuff.

>>18373415
Isn't cuffing bad?

>>18373373
I like it. What jeans?

>>18373419
What?

>>18373476
I've heard it's something the s-words do

>>18373419
>>18373489
That's retarded. Everyone cuffs their jeans, there's different ways to go about doing so of course. If you wear pristine visibly unused denim, double cuff and wear some very clean work boots and flannel shirts, while obviously not being that type of guy, yeah you will look like a faggot

>>18373514
You just described this whole thread only instead of work boots it’s converse, which is obviously even worse. Hugely embarrassing. This whole thread is a public humiliation ritual for closeted homosexuals

ill never understand gay men, i feel like the bottom ones (the ones that dress up) only do so to attract other men and never because they feel like a certain look fits them
its like all the worst aspects of female and male clothing

>>18373489
Real men cuff inside.

>>18373419
If you call heterosexual things "bad", then it's bad.

>>18373524
if you had about 2" so your only choice was to go gay (bottom) or be an incel which fate would you pick?

>>18373535
neither, i am a tranny
you'll say it's the same thing but you wont see me wearing a flannel shirt

https://statement-store.com/products/warehouse-co-lot-800xx-14-8oz-standard-selvedge-jeans-regular-straight

To me this is perfection. Perfection of the garment and of the cut. However I absolutely can not stand the Levi's-mimicking red flap, the white label below the patch, and the fact that the construction's thread is cotton (= short life). These three things alone are enough to keep me from spending 200+ on these Warehouse. Can someone point me to an almost identical model without the three autistic flaws that totally kill the jeans for me?

>>18373373
That's my default stack.

I've been wearing the 634 in 25oz for a few days straight and tgey're slowly growing on me. Got accustomed to the retardedly thick fabric and weight sooner than expected. Perhaps the relatively short rise ain't that bad. I guess I'd feel like I'm wearing an orthopedic belt if it were a high rise. Not gonna be my favourite jeans anytime soon, but I can see them as the goto jeans for the coldest days of winter.

>>18373419
Cuffs just scream "look at my selvedge! I spend 5x as much as you do on jeans so LOOK AT ME"

taking a gamble on picrel "ww2 inspired" chinese jeans. anyone have any experience with olderbest/militora? Really hard to find good denim here in the uk without being shafted by import fees.

>>18373603
I stay away from chink excrements but I've always thought MBBCARs look nice.

>>18373540
>tranny
troon. tranny implies i would fuck you.

>>18373610
I usually do too but these seemed interesting and within my budget. I'm sure they won't be as nice as my TCBs but if they are any good I'll report back to the thread

>>18373631
go fuck actual gay men instead of calling trannies who wont top you troons, faggot

>>18373602
caring about cuffs screams 'i'm an insecure faggot'
just do whatever looks the best. how your jeans sit on different shoes/boots will affect the leg drape and how the whole thing looks. unless you wear all the same footwear all the time if you want to look good with all of your stuff the obvious answer is: sometimes you uncuff, sometimes you single cuff, sometimes you double cuff. getting the right hem length is the hard part, as it shrinks long term.

>>18373637
theres 2 kinds the ones who are actually somewhat cute, and the ones who are prison gay discord incels. i can just tell which from your vernacular.

>>18373640
You wrote all that up to say you're not mad but you sure seem mad

>>18370408
A soak in cold salt water will stop the dye from bleeding.

>>18373633
>as nice as my TCBs
Which ones did you get?

>>18370792
>
This is only a problem for fatties.

>>18373640
Reduce yapping by 40%. It’s not that deep small son

>>18373647
50s straight, love how loose they are compared to modern jeans. Only had a few washes so far but they have softened up nicely.

>>18373672
Nice, how's the rise on them? Did you go true to size or sized up/down?

>>18373640
that two types of trannies thing is retarded, you just mean pretty people vs ugly people, stop trying to equate genetics with personality

>>18373545
>However I absolutely can not stand the Levi's-mimicking red flap
Same. Other japanese brands do it as well and I don't really see the point.

>>18373672
>50s straight
What's the difference between those and the 60s?

>>18373731
The 50s have a higher rise and use Zimbabwean cotton. The 60s use San Joaquin cotton, which a bit more hairy.

Are western denim shirts worth it? I mean, they do look really nice but why would I choose one over a regular jacket? Can I wear it as a middle layer or are they more appropriate for the outer layer? Please enlighten me how to style them.

>>18373735
They're just a meme. No one looks good in them.

>>18373735
>Please enlighten me how to style them.
Like a shirt.

>>18373740
Yeah but considering that they cost as much as a denim jacket why would I choose a shirt over a jacket?

>>18373739
I don't know, this guy looks pretty good

>>18373745
Layers, my man. Tee+shirt+jacket when the weather requires it.

>>18373739
Skill issue. I get tons of compliments when wearing mine.

>>18373751
Yeah but I feel that if I'm gonna spend 200+ bucks on a shirt and then just use it as a middle layer would be kind of a waste. Also, what kind of jackets they pair nice with?

>>18373415
Would obviously have to cuff more without boots, and I don't wear boots always.

>>18373592
Alright. Not used to 34" (I'm 183cm/6'0") so these feel very long.

I wish I could justify thicker denim. I already have some winter pants that I never wear because winter is very mild here. Maybe as an investment before traveling to the Nordics...

>>18373439
These ones. As I said last thread, these were on sale for 26 euro a pair and are Italian made with Candiani denim, so ended buying my first Zara item in 20 years. I only wear jeans with a wash nowadays, and these have a subtle wash, are very thick and the cut is a bit looser than 13mwz on the thigh and fit me more comfortably.

>>18373676
went up to a 34 from a 32 levis 501 size, fit almost the same, a bit more snug but I prefer not wearing a belt. mid to high rise, they reach my navel if I pull them all the way up and sit on the waist, I prefer pulling them down a bit though for more comfort while sitting. Didn't shrink at all in the wash since they are pre-shrunk.

>>18373765
>I wish I could justify thicker denim.
Tbh I still think 25oz is a fucking meme. Maybe if you're a welder or live in really cold climates. Winter is not particulary cold where I live, but these jeans do really make a difference. Can't see myself wearing them on the scorching sumners we get.

>>18373757
you wear your jacket outdoors and take it off indoors.
200 isn't that crazy for a shirt made from specialty fabric that isn't off the rack.

>>18373735
fit's everything with those. they can look really cool or really reddit. viapiana (bespoke) and bryceland's (rtw) are the only guys making them with actual tailoring backgrounds i know of. viapiana can get cool fabrics, brycelands uses pretty generic stuff.

>>18373757
>use it as a middle layer would be kind of a waste.
Don't get it, them.
>Also, what kind of jackets they pair nice with?
Leather jackets, m65 jackets, corduroy trucker sherpa jackets... basically any non-denim jacket. I love denim and do double denim quite a lot, but triple is just too much for me. Never could make it work.

>>18373765
>these have a subtle wash
Subtle wash black jeans are great. Gotta wear mine more. I don't do black fits much these days.

>>18373783
you have to be canadian to pull off triple denim. an indigo chambray shirt's a lot easier to pull off, and a red chambray even easier (but don't wear that if you look soi)

>>18373757
You wear a middle layer more than a jacket, and jackets are washed less often from most people.=
I wouldn't pay 200 for a shirt but I would struggle to pay 200 for anything personally.

I personally love denim shirts, especially overshirt-like ones and wear them with anything, even more denim (see >>18362297)

>>18373796
I also wear them with work jackets like here or nylon bombers.

>>18373791
Yeah, chambray shirts is where it's at when it comes to triple denim of sorts. Got one in mustard that never fails to get compliments. I've got a white and a red on my list, gotta decide if I want them on western or workwear cut for springtime fits.

>>18373782
What the hell are you on about boy? You don't know what you're talking about

schizo troon and the shitty clitty janny

To concerned parties: I am fighting the schizo on multiple fronts across many threads and boards. He will be annihilated and he will take his meds

>>18373800
*Save*
I'm putting this in my "what makes it s*y" compilation.

>>18373545
>I absolutely can not stand the Levi's-mimicking Red flap
Just cut it off?

>>18370572
Based. Wilkies are great.

How heavy should i go for a type III jacket? 21oz seems like alot based on my UB221's

>>18373735
I usually wear a western denim shirt over a flannel or hoodie. It acts as a good protective outer layer. Don’t listen to the tards on here, western cuts are timeless.

>>18373844
nice blogpost headcase

>>18370879
Just a blue Pilot G2 0.7mm. For what it's worth I normally carry a Kaweco Sport Brass w/Iroshizuku Kon-Peki

>>18373782
As far as I can tell Viapiana is on hiatus as he switches from made to order to ready to wear. I would suggest Ciano Farmer Denim as a choice as well, I talked to him on the phone yesterday about my order and he said he is also switching from MTO to mostly RTW although returning customers will still have access to MTO. So your first piece will have to be RTW but after that you can order from the full MTO catalog. A little confusing but if it helps him keep the business going I understand.

>he says he's finally shipping out my jacket this week, getting hype

>>18373916
even though brycelands switched to rtw and viapiana is, rtw from the guys who actually tailor is gonna be a step above rtw from the brands who don't have that experience. they're just gonna know how to pattern for the average guy more than brands focused on their fabrics will.
i wonder if ciano's the only one left doing bespoke western shirts, or even high end denim shirts in general.
i need to see pics of that jacket, show a close up of the fabric when you get it!

>>18373924
I 100% agree with you, Ciano was telling me over the phone he's having an extremely hard time hiring staff who actually know how to build these clothes so he ends up doing most of the manufacturing himself. I see why he'd want to transition to just busting out 10 pairs of the same chinos in the time it takes him to make 2 custom chino orders.

I ordered this back in September, spec'd it for a corduroy collar too. I'll take a bunch of detail shots and post in whatever thread is up at the time I get it.