>>18341751
What's the best sketchy online pharmacy to get tretinoin from without a prescription these days?

>>18341764
kek this nigga doesnt have a tretinoin prescription

Can someone recommend a body scrub? I have lots of dead skin to the point that if i scratch myself white marks appear on my skin

alright i might just be a schizo but i need you to hear me out
hydration important for skin
soaking cucumber in water provides electrolytes
rectum absorbs excess water and electrolytes
cucumber water enema
why not just drink it? does bypassing the digestive track provide any benefit? call me gay if you need to but am i crazy?

>>18341829
this is why i still come here

excluding supplements that I need to stay sane on night shift like Vitamin D3.

Shower at night so my sheets are clean which I was with powder detergent and baking soda just like the rest of my clothes to get rid of stains.

Before I shower hydrate face with warm water, apply shaving cream from bar or cream form then rinse off to get the oil layer off first. Apply again and shave WTG, ATG, XTG, and stretch skin out in trouble spots. This is done with a double edge razor the Drakkat + gives me almost a BBS but skill issue is present. No nicks but rarely weepers again either a skill issue or blade issue but zero irritation.

Then apply witch hazel with alcohol on a cotton ball or round to get rid of the soap residue. Let dry for a minute and apply aftershave in either a balm or liquid form. Then let rest for a minute before taking a shower to use my bar soap to clean it off with my Salux scrubber that gets thrown in the wash weekly. Then I use the scrubber for the rest of my body.

Best skin of my life my face has ever seen. Truly understanding on which spectrum of oil your face/body resides on is the key to better skin. However most of my acne has been on my back most of my life so I am biased in my view point.

Skin care routine
>Cold showers
>sometimes wash face with bar of dove soap (no I don't use cleanser, no I've never had acne or a pimple in my entire life, no it doesn't dry the shit out of my skin)
>Shave 3 times a week
>Sometimes smear retinol on my face at night
>Dont use moisturizer, don't need it
>Sometimes wear mineral sunscreen

>>18342841
>Sometimes smear retinol on my face at night
If you're going to use retinol you have to be consistent. Either work up to nightly or don't use it at all, I'm pretty sure only using it a few times a week is purely wasting money.
>cold showers
I really gotta starting doing those again, it's remarkable how much better they are for your skin.
Other than these comments, you know your skin better than I do. If it works, good stuff. Do try to think proactively though; maybe you don't need moisturizer now but maybe it will slowing aging down, etc.

>>18342527
I think on average this is probably true because women have hormonal fluctuations and men generally don't, but when men do have skin issues they seem to be more severe. Also almost every guy I know has dandruff at least during part of the year, body acne and ingrown hairs seem to be way more common too

>>18343069
true, I've been struggling with acne since 15 which forces me to use shit ton of cosmetics and plan my skin care routine like Napoleon planning his next offensive, meanwhile my buddy does the absolute bare minimum and has silky smooth skin

>>18343205
I know that feel

>>18341858
This is body horror.

>>18341751
is shaving foam bad for the skin?

How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?
I could do it in 5 minutes if I didn't give a shit about letting things absorb but I use vitamin C in the morning and give it 20 minutes to absorb. Then if I wear moisturizer under my sunscreen, that's another ten minutes of waiting. It's at the point where I just use my sunscreen as my moisturizer. There's got to be a better way.

>>18341751
Guiding principles:
stay hydrated, avoid cigarettes, caffeine and alcohol, get high quality sleep, eat well, exercise, change bedsheets weekly, always use sun protection

Routine:
- Warm (not hot) showers, daily in the morning, after workout
- Wash face using hands with CeraVe for normal skin, daily in the morning
- Wipe down face with warm washcloth in the evening
- Clinique Men moisturizer with SPF21 in the morning
- CeraVe PM Ultra Lightweight lotion in the evening
- Nivea Men on the body in the morning
- Shave every other day, using a tallow-based shave soap, one pass with the grain only (it's not perfectly smooth, but it looks fine. No one's given me a credit card test since I left the military anyway.)
- Alcohol-free witch hazel aftershave

I find a healthy lifestyle is more important for good skin than a routine that includes a million different treatments. Genetics also plays a part. My parents are in their late 60s and look like they're in their late 40s (only my father's snow white hair gives them away.)

>>18344959
>How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?
All told, from the second I turn on the shower to the minute I'm out the door for work, it takes me 20 minutes

>>18344977
>I find a healthy lifestyle is more important for good skin than a routine that includes a million different treatments.
100%. Diet has a huge impact. Skincare is for treating specific issues, protecting against environmental factors, enhancing the skin, and protecting against aging.
My routine:

AM:
Rinse face
Vitamin C
Moisturizer
Sunscreen

PM:
Cleanser
Retinol
Moisturizer

When I shave I just use shave gel, go with the grain, and apply my moisturizer right after. I never much saw the point of aftershave.

>>18344992
>apply my moisturizer right after
Right after rinsing off the shave gel, of course.

>>18344992
>I never much saw the point of aftershave.
It's an astringent to close the pores and prevent moisture loss. The alcohol can also act as a disinfectant to prevent cuts from getting irritated.

However, alcohol dries the skin out, so it's best to use an alcohol free astringent like witch hazel. If you actually do get a cut anywhere, you can use a styptic pencil instead.

>>18341858
This scares me more that melanoma

>>18345005
I might be totally missing the point but why not just splash some cold water on your face to close the pores?

>hg
>no deodorant recs
yeah op is a jeet

>there are treatments that can improve sun damage and hyperpigmentation
>all of them makes you more prone to sun damage then before
what did they mean by this?

Redpill me on cicaplast

>>18346554
Make some recs then.
For me it's just Old Spice. Not many ingredients though I hate that with deodorant you basically have to submit to using fragrance.
I don't fuck with anti-perspirant. Don't need it because I'm not fat.

>Go to beach for the first time this year
>Back acne looks just as faded (if not more) than when I apply foams and creams vigorously for a month
I think the best answer to cutting back acne is
>Cut dairy
>Embrace the dudesurfer lifestyle, or at least take a dip in the salty water every day
Too bad the beach is far. Are there any salt water tier products that have the same effects as catching waves? It genuinely feels like this is the way to go

Anyone able to get tazarotene gel or cream 0.05%/0.1% in SEA?
Vietnam used to have 0.1% gel. But they removed the "0.1%" label and now supposedly only have 0.01% Tazarotene in picrel.
I rather not import from India. I don't think it will pass the custom anyways. Thinking to visit a pharmacy/derm in neighboring SEA or Asian country and get the tazarotene.

>>18347488
Dove makes some aluminum free deodorants that have pretty light scents.

>>18347217
I used one of the Cicaplast almost a decade ago, when it was really hyped. It was very thick and didn't do much iirc.
Pharmacy ceramide cream like Alfason/Locobase or Ceradan did much more in my experience.

>>18341798
Sounds like a medical problem.

>>18344959
>I could do it in 5 minutes if I didn't give a shit about letting things absorb but I use vitamin C in the morning and give it 20 minutes to absorb.
You don't need to do this at all.
1-2 minutes is plenty of time for each layer to absorb before you apply the next one. You don't need to wait until your skin is completely dry, just give it long enough that the next layer won't wipe off the previous one when you put it on.

>>18347633
Just import from India. It will pass customs as long as you don't order 20+ tubes at a time. Nobody working in customs cares about prescription skin cream

keep getting adult acne on my chin
clears up and then a new one appears after a few days later

>>18347941
Be conscious that you're not touching your chin too much

>>18341751
How do I identify what's fucking up my skin?

I was in an extended vacation abroad (Asia) and I noticed the occasional acne I get dissapeared. I thought it may be all the fancy skin products I bought in Asia but now after a while at home it came back. Obviously something in my environment or lack thereof is doing this but I can't find out what.

Anyone experienced something like this?

>>18348922
Humidity and temperature
Reduced stress on vacation

Higher cortisol levels are usually correlated with breakouts, although that may actually be because stressful lifestyles, like sitting at your desk indoors all day studying and getting little sleep, are greasy

>>18347217
The one in your pic saves my hands and face from the effects of the harsh, bitter winter cold. I only use it when my face/hands are as scaley as a lizard, but otherwise you can find better for daily use.

>>18347217
stuff's magic for damaged skin.

>razor burn/cuts - fixed
>tret burn - fixed
>chapped - fixed
>over exfoliated - fixed

it's an occlusive, so use it the same way as slugging. no active under where you apply it. i only clean, HA serum, moisturizer, and then a layer of cicaplast on top before bed. most minor things heal in a single night. speeds up healing for more serious damage.

What do you put on your lips for spf protection?

>>18349341
Burt's Bees

>>18341764
everyone always touts alldaychemist, but i wouldn't recommend something like that because it's unregulated and there's good money to be made in counterfeits. not that they are just that i wouldn't trust it.
you should try going through amazon clinic / pharmacy if you're in the US. it's pretty cheap and quick. it was about $30 for the visit for the prescription and the tret is about $20 a tube without insurance. even cheaper with insurance.

>>18341798
St. Ives Fresh Skin Scrub to answer your question.
you shouldn't really be using physical exfoliants like scrubs though. it sound's like you have dry skin. have you tried moisturizer? what moisturizer do you use? if you have you could try something with Salicylic Acid to exfoliate.
CeraVe Moisturizing Cream with Salicylic Acid
CeraVe Body Wash with Salicylic Acid
CeraVe SA Cleanser Bar

>>18342841
>Sometimes smear retinol on my face at night
minimum needed is every other night otherwise you're wasting your time and irritating your skin for no reason. retinol is already on the weaker end to begin with.
>Sometimes wear mineral sunscreen
you should wear a broad spectrum SPF30 or higher every day. it's cumulative over a long period of time that accelerates aging and increases risk of cancer.

sounds like you got lucky in the skin department, don't let that make you think you're the exception to UV damage.

>>18344953
it can be. you should check the ingredients. incidecoder.com is a good tool for this.
Vanicream Shave Cream is a fairly gentle option if you're unsure what ingredients aggravate your skin.

>>18344959
i only use a moisturizing spf, but if i used vit c i would apply, get dressed, and then throw on the moisturizer spf. you don't need to wait that long for it to dry.

>>18344977
>>18344992
sounds pleasant anons

>>18347602
this effect is well known but not good for long term and is inconsistent even in the short term.
>https://int.eucerin.com/skin-concerns/sun-protection/acne-and-the-sun

don't give up looking for a solution. what have you tried so far?

>>18347941
you should give your routine if you want real help. could be something you're doing / not doing. women can get hormonal acne along their jawline, but if not that it could be practically anything.

>>18348922
>>18348976
agree with response, but would add to it if you don't think its environmental or stress.
the best way to find if a particular ingredient or food is causing outbreak is to simplify your routine as much as possible and be consistent until you can find something that works. once you find a stable base you can start slowly adding stuff back until you break out again. use incidecoder.com to compare skin care ingredients.

make your diet as simple as possible too. things like dairy, sugar, and high processed food can cause acne. you could also have an allergy that causes acne. try to stick to whole foods (mostly veggies by volume, fruit, white meat, fish, nuts). only drink water.

you can also talk to your derm or gp about an allergy test.

if you were more active during vacation, you may want to try exercise. even walking could help. exercise helps improve blood flow to the skin that help provide nourishment and remove toxins and dead cells.

also, the canned response - clean your pillowcase every few days.

>>18342527
>>18342721
>>18346554
no one wants you here.

How the fuck do I get a shave without irritation or shadow? I can feel the blade doing little micro-tears in my skin as i shave. This was with a Harry's razor i got as a gift. I usually do electric but still get irritation. Sorry for gross pic.
>inb4 pressure
i am using butterfly-tier pressure
>different style of razor
Have tried straight and safety with the same results.
>growth pattern
Against or with the grain it does not matter - it's always like this.
>git gud
I have been shaving for probably 15 years and feel like I've tried everything.

>>18350125
have you ever had a professional shave at a decent barber shop? if you can find one that gives you a good shave you could ask them.

there's a good chance you'll get some razor burn around the adam's apple or other uneven surfaces. these cuts, "burns", need to be disinfected and sealed to prevent bacteria from getting in. most of what i can see in the picture is inflammation.

you'll need to experiment around, results are different for everyone, but the staples are: alum block, witch hazel, and alcohol aftershave for the disinfectant.

none of those worked for me. i use a 10% benzoyl peroxide face wash.

my routine:
- shave with electric razor. not the closest shave but least irritating for me. this will differ largely by person.

- hop in shower and wash face with 10% benzoyl peroxide face wash. when i put the face wash on i leave it for 3-4 minutes to give it time to kill germs.

- out of the shower, right after drying off, i use a moisturizer.

the moisturizer not only hydrates the skin, it also creates a protective layer to prevent contaminates from getting in and has calming ingredients.

>CeraVe Acne Foaming Cream Cleanser 10%
>CeraVe Ultra-Light Moisturizing Face Lotion with SPF 30
>Torriden DIVE-IN Hyaluronic Acid Soothing Cream

can acne purging from tretinoin tropical 0.05, cause permanent acne scarring? My nodular acne has suddenly flared up after I'd started using this 5 weeks ago and was wondering if the damage is going to be permanent making the whole idea of using tret useless in the first place.

What is this?
I got it for free. I don't know how/when to use it and if it helps your skin.

>>18350154
the purge shouldn't last too long and you'll have less acne over the long term so worth it. you should give it a full 12 weeks to start seeing the results before stopping.

also be sure during this time you only clean, moisturize, and spf. other actives should be on hold until your skin acclimates to the tretinoin.

>>18350159
>https://biomee.com/
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240807183227/https://biomee.com/
>https://www.instagram.com/biomeedk/

no clue. looks like a failed startup from denmark looking for funding or something.

their barrier cream appears to be something like Illiyoon Ceramide Ato Concentrate Cream, so i would use it like a heavy moisturizer at night.

>>18350172
can I use clindamyacin and benzoyl peroxide to cope with acne in this peroid?

>>18350176
yes, it's often prescribe together with tretinoin. you want to use them at different times though.
benzoyl peroxide can break down the tretinoin and make it less effective. (there's some conflicting evidence on this) tretinoin should be used at night due to sun exposure issues.
that means the benzoyl peroxide / clindamycin should be used in the morning on clean, dry skin before moisturizer and sunscreen.

you want to be careful with what you wear; the benzoyl peroxide will bleach fabrics. hopefully after your skin adjust to the tret you won't need to use bp. also, bacterial resistance will make clindamycin ineffective relatively quickly. it's not a long term solution.

bp is one of the goats at clearing acne, but it's pretty harsh. leave on bp especially - dehydrates skin and ruins clothes, sheet, and towels.

epiduo is another option. it's an adapalene/benzoyl peroxide 2-in-1. it may be a better fit if tret doesn't work out. unlike tret, adapalene is stable with bp. for me, i eventually needed to go on isotretinoin.

hope this helps :) the purge is miserable. it's worth trying though even if it feels like forever now.

>>18350149
Thank you for the advice! Will certainly follow the directions for the products you listed. Seeing good things online about Torriden. Will get the CeraVe and continue with my ARC5. Also, alum, witch hazel, and aftershave haven't worked for me, either. Glad you found what works for you, and thanks for the tips.

>>18348922
Wow yeah, I experienced the same thing vacationing in Japan recently, dandruff + acne started clearing up. Until then I'd assumed I was stuck with bad skin forever after adolescent experiments with different hygiene methods failed to have an effect. Thus being here and elsewhere, trying to learn why.

>>18350208
thx.
will adding this >>18347633
help me treat hyperpigmentation scars? How do I so? Also, what are ur thoughts on microdosing accutance, say 10mg, thrice a week?

Anything to handle stretched skin on the face? I think I accidentally stretched cheek skin over the years and now I have a chud line there.
At beginning I thought it was caused by lacking tooth there, so I had tooth bone augmentation, didn't work.

>>18350516
Yes. Plastic surgery.

>>18350217
Leaving a filthy third-world country for Japan makes you healthier. Who'da thunk it?

>>18350558
So anti-wrinkle creams won't work?
Fuck. I don't believe I fucked myself over with such trivial thing

>>18350310
Ask a derm. If you're microdosing accutane, a derm is necessary anyways.

>>18350516
>>18350562
Post a picture. Let's see wtf a "chud line" is. Don't expect too much from creams. Even prescription ones.

>>18350581
>chud line
nasofabial fold
Mine is deeper on one side. I can clearly feel the saggier skin on that side and behind the cheek.

about to try the new cerave shampoo and conditioner let's see if it fucks my hair up

>>18350960
this being my current routine

I've been using tret (started with 0.05) for a couple weeks, slowly increasing the frequency. No nasty side effects so far. I've just started applying it every other night, and now I'm moving on from the moisturizer sandwich technique to applying it directly on my skin. I use a face wash beforehand, now that I'm not applying tret between moisturizer layers, should I still wait around 20 minutes after rinsing and drying my face of the face cleanser before putting on the tret like how I did when I used a moisturizer buffer or can I just put it on immediately after I dry my face with a towel after washing it?
Also what/when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage of tret?

*does nothing in your path*

>>18351106
>for a couple weeks
Imho, if you didn't get any adverse effects from sandwich method, just continue for now at least for 6 months to a year. And see if there's noticeable improvement. Take pictures for your own reference.

The instruction usually says to wash your face and let it dry from 20-30 mins. Use tissue to make sure. Then apply the tretinoin. If you want to stop sandwich method, try this method first. Directly applying tret after washing may or may not increase irritation. But we should not make such a huge gamble with our skin.

Personally the recommended 20 mins wait make my skin too dry and uncomfortable. I prefer buffering. But I understand there's a cost associated with this approach. And most people want quicker results.

>Also what/when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage of tret?
If it doesn't solve your issue or show any result. Like acne, fine lines, etc. after 6-12 months.

Can anyone recommend products for back hyperpigmentation. I'm pretty smooth looking all around except for my goddamn back and it's making me very insecure holy shit.

I've been using tretinoin on it and I have not seen any noticeable results thus far.

>>18351312
Just to add as well, I've treated the acne with Panoxyl.

>>18351312
>>18351314
Could you show a picture? It will probably fade on its own in a year or so.

>>18351328
>It will probably fade on its own in a year or so.
Not good enough, I want it gone in the next few months. I'll take a pic when I can.

>>18341751
Do natural sugars, such as in honey or dates, cause acne as well?

Also what’s the difference between a moisturizer containing SPF vs using a separate moisturizer and sunscreen?

>>18350125
Sharper razor blades, shave with the grain for the first pass. I get massive razor burn if i shave straight down on my neck the first pass but if i follow the grain and shave outwards from the center it i get none. Rub your face and feel which way the grin goes in each spot. Draw a diagram on a piece of paper if it will help you remember while shaving.
I think the bic twin blade disposables are sharper then average.

50% sure that I've got a cystic pimple coming in, just noticed it now and it wasn't there in the morning. I haven't had one since June...
What can I do about this fucker? I'm already on tazarotene.

a lot propaganda for some brands but I don't see Eucerin comments, they should hire shitposters, sorry ... marketers ? or maybe they don't needed.

>>18352182
>Eucerin
Garbage German brand. If anything they are doing more stealth marketing lately. On /r/tretinoin for example.
It doesn't help that most other brands don't want to do a basic urea cream.

>>18352182
>>18352184
Dove have many allergic components that are prohibited in Europe ( google 24 or 26 alllergic) .
Cetaphil is basically equal to a regular cheap soap (google and compare components) except for a couple of componentes (uses tallow which is normal animal fat).
Cerave is the one I I don't have many complains
Eucerin by the only one hate comment recieved must be good or at least ok; pity there are not many comments good or bad.

I'm a newfag to skincare. Is this good to start it?

>>18352324
start with*

>>18352324
>>18352325
Meh. What's your end goal? I honestly think it's better to see a derm and get prescription tretinoin, etc.

tret bros and sis, what gives?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FAwj7rmfA

>>18352404
I will not watch the video because I'm very racist.
Anyways not everyone benefits from tretinion. Don't be poor. See a derm regularly for control.

is vitamin e oil a meme or legit? not really looking to use it for my face, mostly my nails/cuticles

>>18351794
Just let it be. You're on taz. Don't risk another actives. See a derm if you want.

>>18352324
yeah but don't expect miracles
it's like saying im gonna start brushing my teeth, they aren't going to magically get whiter but they certainly won't get worse

>>18350960
so far they seem fine, they don't really feel amazing in the shower but after putting on the conditioner my hair feels all right
not the worst products i've used but not my favorites either

>>18350960
>>18352640
Not sure why you are trying random shampoos and conditioners like this.
Just use Kerastase or Redken.
Paul Mitchell for clarifying shampoos.
Free & Clear/Vanicream for sensitive skin.
Anti-fungal shampoos/ointment/tablet for dandruff. I personally find Zinc Pyrithione very effective, but they banned it in the western world.

>>18352464
I have no idea what you're talking about. What are the purported benefits?

>>18347770
>Nobody working in customs cares about prescription skin cream
Holy shit, you don't live in my country. Don't be a smart ass just because your country has no working law and order.

>>18352869
for fun also im not paying $20 for shampoo fuck off

do anons know any good indoor sunscreens? i sit in a completely dark room most of the day but sometimes i am near a window and also need to block the light from my computer (i turn the blues way down and use a very strong blue light filter on everything)

>>18353628
the exposure you're getting does not make that big of a difference, you could probably just wear any light watery sunscreen from korea and be fine

>>18353628
Round Lab 150 Dokdo Sunscreen.
Invisible at moment of application. Does not stand up to rubbing/sweat but it's absolutely perfect for indoor work. My daily driver except during summer when I sweat.

>try to get into doing skincare
>just putting on sunscreen makes my face feel gross and irritated all day, especially around my eyes
>supposedly I’m supposed to put moisturizer AND sunscreen on
What do

>>18353768
What sunscreen have you been using?

>>18353776
umbrella

>>18353811
Seems like a brand I'm unfamiliar with. For future sunscreens I'd screen their ingredient list using something like the ingredient checker on Paula's Choice site for known irritants:
https://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-ingredient-checker
Paula's has their own sunscreens on their site, but they can be a bit pricey.
There are also combo moisturizers with spf, but from the articles I've read it looks like they're less effective UV protection than just sunscreens, and reapplying them throughout the day (as you'll meed to for sun protection) will just make your face feel greasier

>>18353880
A good first-line website is incidecoder. Paula's Choice is better for individual ingredients but incidecoder will have a page on the product categorizing each ingredient by function and whether the owner of the site thinks it's bad. Helps eliminate ingredients that are virtually certain to not be the problem.
whatisinmyjar is similar but I'm not sure how well-maintained it is.
https://incidecoder.com/brands/umbrella
Not sure which of their sunscreens he's using but it should be on this list.

>>18354115 (Me)
>>18353811
Also what's your use case? Do you sweat much during the day? Do you work outside?
If you spend most of your time indoors you could look into an ultra-light sunscreen like Round Lab Dokdo. It will roll right off if you break a sweat but it's light, non-greasy, and shine-free.
If you need a tougher sunscreen many of them like Purito Soft Touch Daily have decent-ish water resistance and can act as a standalone moisturizer.
Ultimately you will have to experiment with a few, for me I would scroll YesStyle and StyleVana and read reviews on products that looked promising before trying them.

why does it feel like it's impossible to change my skin

some big problems i have are dehydration (i look way older than i should at 19), post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and uneven skin tone (i was on roaccutane for 10 months) and dry lips that never seem to look good in texture. like i use lip balm but they just always look odd.

i've been struggling with my skin and looks for years and i feel like my diet here is the problem + lack of exercise. i don't feel like i have true sun damage since i am inside a lot (kinda too much on the computer) so i also have eyebags under my eyes
my problem is probably sugar and dairy and lack of fruits. i eat a decent amount of veggies and meat so that isn't as much of a problem.

i'm currently using a gentle cerave cleanser + moisturizer for dry to normal skin and it never feels like it can fix the dehydration, my skin also visibly has like a "peel-off" look but it never truly peels off, it's just dry, dead skin probably
whenever i shower, after i shower, i can scratch my legs and arms to the point where i get small white-grayish (?) stuff that peels off which i assume is dead skin cells

i'm just incredibly confused as to what to do. maybe i shower wrong? i use a soap bar and don't moisturize after showering or exfoliate. i'm assuming it might be stripping my oils too much and it's concerning bcs i've been showering this way for years.

is it possible to totally revamp your skin throughout your 20s and fix damage? like it would immensely improve my looks. roaccutane got rid of a lot of acne that i had to the point where it isn't present anymore but my skin still sucks. derma is useless and ignores my dehydrated skin and just says "oh bro, apply moisturizer man" and i do but...doesn't work to fix the problem...

picrel is my leg, for an example of what i'm dealing with all over my body. i scratched it a bit with my nails to show the problem.

>>18353880
>>18354118
umbrella

>>18354257
I know there are skin problems but don't you think maybe stress can cause some of the problem and maybe an antibiotic you took before, for example doxyxicline works at skin level and literally kill the usual microorganisms the skin have

>>18354257
i hate derms, I had that reaction with the first syndet they gave me, everything just went to the point "just try till find the one works for you".
derms are just like everything in life, in a classroom of 50 , 5 are goood 10 are a disaster and the rest is the middle "who kniws" , try another derm.
oh in case you are curious Im using a glycerine cheap soap which is not good but is not too bad.

>>18354257
Can't offer too much advice but iktf man. My skin is very dry just about everywhere, doctors don't really offer much more advice beyond "drink more water bro", "use lotion", or "some people are just like that".

>maybe i shower wrong? i use a soap bar and don't moisturize after showering or exfoliate. i'm assuming it might be stripping my oils too much and it's concerning bcs i've been showering this way for years.

if you have hard water (white spots on everything that gets wet, mineral buildup around your water fixtures) that might be part of the problem, i think it is for me.

>>18354478
You've been using an actual, physical umbrella?
If you walk on light-colored surfaces you're still getting UV, plus you need to carry the umbrella around. Not a terrible system but it's mogged by sunscreen.

>>18350310
>will adding this >>18347633 help me
tazarotene is another retinoid and you shouldn't use it while also using tretinoin. both can help with hyperpigmentation. i'd run the full 12 weeks with tretinoin and if you're still interested in trying something else, switch to the tazarotene. moving from tret to taz won't be as bad as your initial entrance into tret since you already purged.

you should take a look at this video. not exhaustive, but a good rundown of retinoids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbeopWc_xLE
https://labmuffin.com/ultimate-guide-to-drug-retinoids/

you should also talk to a derm about hyperpigmentation. there are a few things that can help depending on type of hyperpigmentation, severity, skin tone, skin type, finances, etc.
one of the go-to's is hydroquinone, but it's use has an on/off cycle and needs to be monitored by a dermatologist. unchecked, it can cause some serious damage. also you'd want to use that after fixing your acne and may not be necessary once you've been on a retinoid for a while.

see here for more: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9165630/#t1-dic-2021-11-2

>thoughts on microdosing accutance
definitely need to talk to a derm about this. i'd say it's an absolute last option. while on accutane you need to take monthly blood test to check liver function and cholesterol. you also can't drink alcohol and you can't take certain medications, even tylenol, because it will damage your liver.
for me, my first month of accutane was 20mg. my cholesterol spiked over double. i had to be very careful with my diet, take fish oil, and exercise the entire time i was on it. i couldn't maintain that over the long term and i like to have a drink every now and then.
bunch of other side effects and issues that can come up that you should look into. can't get pregnant because of birth defects, etc.
that being said some people do it because it's the only thing that works for them.

>>18350960
>>18352640
thanks for the review, i may check it out. the vanicream shampoo has been a godsend though, not sure if anything can top it. it's just a shampoo. that's it. just about everything else i've tried breaks me out in some degree.
https://incidecoder.com/compare-products/vanicream-free-clear-shampoo/cerave-gentle-hydrating-shampoo

>>18351106
>should I still wait around 20 minutes
your skin should be completely dry. i usually wait 10 mins after drying, apply pea sized amount, wait 10 mins, then apply moisturizer.
>when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage
if for acne, wait 12 weeks after you start using directly on the skin daily. if for anti-aging, wait 6 months and bumping up to 0.1% probably won't make a difference. you should look into different retinoid.

>>18352182
i default rec cerave because it's one of the cheapest while still being effective and non-irritating. it's a safe choice. not always the best for you specifically, but a good base to start from. eucerin seems to be more popular with the eczema/psoriasis/very dry skin crowd. someone with oily skin probably would like it as much. similar with la roche posay moisturizer. leans more toward dryer skin types.

>>18352324
if you don't have a skin condition and you're under 25, this plus spf is all you need. i want to stress spf. it's the most important thing that you can do. spf 30 or higher, UVA + UVB protection.
this one's pretty good: https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30

if you do that every day, you'll be miles ahead of your peers in +5 years.

around 25-30, you should look into getting a retinoid like tretinoin.

I wish someone told me about hydrating toner 10 years ago. That's been the missing ingredient all this time.

>>18353768
i didn't wear sunscreen all the way up through my 20s because of this. i didn't know it was just because my parents bought cheap, greasy trash from walmart. learned much later that there are plenty of affordable options that actually make my skin feel and look better. big boon for me. shop around, try out different brands. when you find one you like it will be worth it.

check out this list of korean products
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVXBlcQx349Xo0Mza3RrKsymgwxwzwjI0ju0b9OD1yY

NA/EU look into

https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30

https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/face/face-moisturizer/toleriane-double-repair-facial-moisturizer-with-spf-tolerianedoublerepairuvspf30.html

>>18354257
you should get a second opinion from another dermatologist. you have have mild eczema or psoriasis.

you could try a few different things.

- salicylic acid soap -
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/cleansers/sa-cleanser-bar-for-rough-and-bumpy-skin

this could help remove some of the dead skin.

- heavier moisturizer -
https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/body/body-lotion/lipikar-ap-m-triple-repair-body-moisturizer-for-dry-skin-lipikarbalmap.html
https://www.eucerinus.com/products/intensive-repair/eucerin-intensive-repair-very-dry-skin-lotion

you should moisturize immediately after showering. like within a few minutes of drying off.

- heavier spf -
https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/face/face-moisturizer/toleriane-double-repair-facial-moisturizer-with-spf-3337875888035.html

- petrolatum -
https://www.aquaphorus.com/products/body-care/healing-ointment
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/healing-ointment
https://www.vaseline.com/us/en/p/vaseline-healing-jelly-original.html/00305212352009

let your body moisturizer sit for a little bit and then put a thin layer of a petrolatum based product to lock it in. these are occlusives meaning no water passes through them. target the driest parts at least; elbows, knees, hands, feet. if it's too heavy for the daytime, you'll still benefit from only doing it before bed.

- laundry detergent -
https://www.persillaundry.com/us/en/products/by-variant/sensitive/sensitive-skin-2x-concentrated-liquid-laundry-detergent.html
https://tide.com/en-us/shop/type/liquid/tide-free-and-gentle-liquid

>is it possible to totally revamp your skin throughout your 20s and fix damage?
of course. you're young and you should be patient with yourself. it can take a few months of using a product before you can see results. finding all the things that work for _your_ skin can take years of trial and error. it's worth it once you get there. the biggest thing you need to watch out for is scarring from acne and sun damage.

>>18355144
>someone with oily skin probably would like it as much.
wouldn't*

>>18355260
>you have have mild eczema or psoriasis.
may have*

sorry, typos.

>180 bucks for a small bottle of vitamin c serum
is it worth it going down that rabbithole?

is tonymoly a meme? I've heard good things about their snail mucus shit, but not much about the rest of the brand. also is snail mucus a meme? am chink if that helps answer

rate my stack in order:
Face mask: Tonymoly Collagen Peptide Boosting shot hydrogel mask
Toner: ISHIZAWA LAB Keana Nadeshiko Moisturizing Rice Toner
I actually don't know what this is but it was recommended: Tonymoly collagen Peptide Boosting Shot Ampoule
eye stuff: tonymoly gold 24k snail eye serum ball
moisturizer light to heavy: Kiehl's ultra facial cream, curel intensive moisture care, Dr. G Dermoisture Barrier.D multi balm

Yes I am chink, no I'm not gay. I think I have oily skin, but the area around my chin is chronically dry. Do I need anything else? any product recommendations?

What suggestions for a Vitamin C serum (EU). Currently I have the - Germaine de Capuccini Timexpert Radiance Pure C10. But it is rather expensive considering how fast it gets used up and the shell life is short.

Currently using serum AM and retinol (Ordinary 1%) PM everyday. Main skin issues are capillary redness from very strong acne I had for many years, not sure if this would help much without laser intervention.

do i go with skinorac or alldaychemist for shipping to eu/poland?

>>18356484
Geek & Gorgeous or Timeless
>>18356157
sunscreen
>>18355543
nope, get something cheaper, see my recs above

This Etude Soon Jung 10-Free Moist Emulsion saved my dry and red skin. My sister gave me a few of her skincare samples from a Korean store she buys from, and this one was so good I made her buy me a full tube. Depending on where you live I think price varies, she found this for $15 USD. A little goes a long way. I used to use a cerave cream but this one is honestly better, even if it's an "emulsion", whatever the hell that means. Would definitely suggest for dry, flaked, red skin.

>>18356157
By the way, just in case you didn’t know and aren’t trolling, the curel is a body cream, not face

why the fuck is my face oily until my jaw, then my jaw and chin are ashy as fuck?

>>18355543
I use the Paula's Choice Vitamin C and it was literally half that. It's considered the good Vitamin C too. What the fuck are you buying that's 180 dollars?

>>18357351
well, you don't need a moisturizer

>>18351280
What a bummer, I was planning to try it

hello frens,

I'm starting to fall into the /skg/ rabbit hole. I'm 27yo ( almost 28 ) and I want to start taking care of my face.
I used to just wash face with water and used an all-body lotion.
Since last week, my routine has been:

morning
1) wash face with Low PH Good morning Gel cleanser.
2) let face dry, no towel
3) put on moisturizer ( UNO cream protection)
4) if going out, I put on sunscreen

night routine
1) VERSED cleansing balm to remove sunacreen
2) wash face with cleansing gel
3) let face dry
4) apply REMEDY pore size (0.3% retinol, 1% Salicylic, 5% niacinamide)
5) apply UNO cream protection moisturizer
6) vaseline on lips

should i think about using tretinoin?
also, any recommendations for eye bags?
thabks luv

Ive been using this shit for months now and it works, but its simply too damn expensive to justify buying if i dont have too. From what i can tell, the only difference between this and the 20% as expensive daily moisturizer is the 4% niacinimide. Any idea if thats actually worth it?

>>18359281
you could just buy a niacinimide serum if you really cared
also pretty sure cvs or walgreens carries a generic for that lotion specifically

>>18344959
depends, there are products that are very low ph and it would be best for skin wait to get back to its normal ph before applying next product. i checked once how much time do i need to wait after applying vit c serum before applying some cream (azelaic acid i think) and it said 3 minutes
>How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?
5 minutes, sometimes 10
>>18345086
good idea
>>18346865
that you have to pay the price for not using sunscreen (prevention)
>>18347217
good product to slug with after using too much retinoids or overexfoliating. lasts a long time
>>18347602
id start with cutting dairy and not only dairy, but also overall slop and processed food
or it might be just an outside activity for you
there are thermal water based products but i wouldnt expect them to do wonders

>>18347941
try not eating dairy/slop for 2 weeks and drink more water
post routine
>>18348922
another idea: see if its because of water in your apartment. wash your face with bottled water for 2 weeks or something
>>18350154
>was wondering if the damage is going to be permanent
only if you fuck with the zits/cysts deep in the skin
>>18350583
nta, go see a professional for best advice
>>18351106
>should I still wait around 20 minutes after rinsing and drying my face of the face cleanser before putting on the tret
yes

absolutely retarded state of this website
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>>18351280
see https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10665711
>>18351312
if panoxyl and tret did not work, go to derm
>>18351604
doubt it, because you wont eat these in large amount anyway
>Also what’s the difference between a moisturizer containing SPF vs using a separate moisturizer and sunscreen?
not much difference, some sunscreens require use of moisturizezr (for me it was BoJ rice probiotic spf)
also if you get sunscreen and moisturizer from the same company/line, they will have similar formula and some people might be interested in centella moisturizer and probiotic sunscreen
but many sunscreens are moisturizing anyway

>>18351794
mine disappear before they come out or anything happens. using taz too
>>18352182
i think it had a few reviews on youtube on channels like Doctorly but dont remember what they said
>a lot propaganda for some brands
how else you post a recommendation?
>>18352324
post your goals
no goals = no skincare
>>18352404
side effects comes with everything
>>18352464
it is better to use a product that contains it. iirc it is used for anti oxidant properties, both for skin but also for formulation

extremely retarded
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>>18347633
see if there are Boderm products available in your area, it is a Greek company but maybe they import to your region. they have tazarotene (called Tazarene) but is sold as a cosmetic, not a drug; they work around laws in certain countries that way. was banned in my country after a year of market presence unfortunately
you could also ask their support/email them if they have any success shipping to Vietnam. was wondering to do that myself (for shipping to EU)
>>18353628
any
>>18353768
yeah shit happens, our skin dont tolerate certain products, formulations, ingredients
try another one, cerave AM for example. make sure it does not have alcohol. if this one will irritate you too, look for one without niacinamide
>>18355940
>is tonymoly a meme?
the prices certainly seem to be a meme. normally i would look for reviews be careful if they are paid for
>is snail mucus a meme?
cant really find any relevant info on topical use other than wound healing

>>18356157
you seem to go for everything except the actual core of any skincare routine which is sunscreen and a retinoid
>my chin is chronically dry
heavier moisturizer or slug with vaseline/petroleum jelly
>>18357194
does not look like it has some miracle ingredients but thanks for the rec
>>18357351
because you have mixed type of skin (dry + oily). get cerave pm. niacinamide and moisturizing itself will reduce oiliness and dry patches will be sorted out. it is also oil free which is usually recommended for mixed type of skin
>>18358862
all looks good
>2) let face dry, no towel
use towel, do not wipe but pat gently
>should i think about using tretinoin?
you can gradually get into it over time, sure
>also, any recommendations for eye bags?
contact professional for best advice, usually nothing topical will help with these
>>18359281
>4% niacinimide. Any idea if thats actually worth it?
niacinamide helps with reducing oiliness, redness, helps with acne. it has many uses. if you dont care about these then get the alternative. if you do, maybe a drop or two of 10% niacinamide serum to mix with moisturizer will do the trick
pretty sure you can get something similar though. check your local skincare companies

>>18350125
I have the same issue. This might sound dumb, but what helps me is not pulling the skin very tight.

>>18359445
>>18359449
>>18359451
>>18359474
>>18359476
>>18359484
Extreme mental illness

>>18359445
>i checked once how much time do i need to wait after applying vit c serum before applying some cream (azelaic acid i think) and it said 3 minutes
That makes sense. It certainly feels dried after only 5 minutes.
My only real reservation is how long I should wait after applying moisturizer before applying sunscreen. I don't generally bother waiting around for the sunscreen to set since I'm indoors most of the day anyway but I do want to make sure it's actually coating my skin and adhering correctly.

Maybe OT but I am losing some weight but will bulk up at the gym but now I see that I am more gaunt on one side of my face. Would sculptra be good for me as a male in early to mid 20s to try and correct this and make myself more symmetrical?

>>18359514
giving the best advice is not mental illness u lil niglet

Is Ordinary a good brand for skin care? I've never really used anything, maybe Neutrogena or Nivea from time to time, sometimes I buy cheap ones but want to try something better. Mostly, moisturizers and serums for more radiant skin. I already have clear skin with no pimples or anything but need it to look less dry and old.

>>18359984
id say when moisturizer dried up
cant say specific amount of minutes because
- the moisturizer can soak in fast (cerave pm) or slow (lipikar baume ap+m), also depends on your skin
- the amount of moisturizer also affects the time to dry
i think the main idea is to not mix two different products because their formulation will "change" and might not work as intended (products might start piling, some actives wont work that well in presence of a product with different ph or certain ingredients etc)
> I do want to make sure it's actually coating my skin and adhering correctly.
this is probably overkill but i guess it provides a peace of mind, no idea how much it costs though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0f3GMiIqI4
>>18360023
if this is neck i wouldnt care about it at all. lift some more and see how it goes
>>18360320
>Is Ordinary a good brand for skin care?
its okay, often recommended by derms on youtube, but as all companies they have some products that are not the best and it is better to look elsewhere or skip them completely. the ordinary in particular has many serums in their portfolio that has one or two ingredients. because of this, it would be best to make an educated purchase and learn what they do beforehand. a 10% niacinamide serum seem great at first but no clinical trial was done with 10% concentration, they are usually 2-5%. some people get irritation/redness because of high concentration
>more radiant skin. I already have clear skin with no pimples or anything but need it to look less dry and old.
so you need a basic routine which is cleanser, sunscreen, retinoid, moisturizer. not sure which of these are good in the ordinary line. for recs from other companies check the archive

Once you start using a retinol/retinoid/derivative, how long are you supposed to continue using it, only until you see results? Does it become a life-long thing? I have been using a <1% retinol product daily for 6 months for acne scars, saw improvement, but now see I've hit a plateau. Scars are now only barely visible. Do I need to move to something stronger?

>>18361171
if you are trying to fix something - anywhere between 3 months and 2 years (derms usually say epiduo is 2 years commitment)
if you are using it for anti aging then either you use it until you are happy with the results or forever (just like sunscreen right?)
if you have reached your goals it is up to you what you want to do next. might as well take a break, especially if you are in your early 20s. take a pic of yourself now and see how things are in 3-12 months or after mid 20s

>>18360425
>this is probably overkill but i guess it provides a peace of mind, no idea how much it costs though
I looked into those a while back and read some reviews, basically they don't cover the whole UV range so you might just be showing one or two filters in their best light while your sunscreen is actually lacking in other areas of the spectrum. A real, proper UV camera costs thousands of dollars.
I'm fine with just letting my moisturizer sit until dry and then applying my sunscreen. It's winter in the northern hemisphere so I don't need to stress too hard right now.

>>18341751
where do you guys apply sunscreen other than the face? throat? neck? ears?

>>18362461
anus

>>18362540
thank you for the insight anon but i don't plan on putting sunscreen in the only place where the sun doesn't shine

>>18357119 (me)
Skinorac and Alldaychemist do not ship to EU countries. What are my options?
Strongest retinoid my derm can prescribe is Epiduo forte

>>18362461
I apply all skincare to my neck and ears. Some people apply it to the upper-middle chest too.
I apply sunscreen to my hands and, if I'm not wearing long sleeves, my arms.

this is getting worse and worse over the years.
What does really help against hair going fatty within hours after washing? So far i use a regular shampoo

>>18363902
That might be the result of your shampoo being too harsh and your scalp overproducing oil to compensate
Try using a sulfate free shampoo meant for oily hair

>>18363948
NTA but can't you also use conditioner as a daily-driver cleanser and only shampoo 2-3x a week?

While we're on the topic: how do I do skincare for my scalp when I have hair? I was rocking the shaved look for a while so I just treated it as part of my face but now my hair is getting in the way.

Since the Cerave SA Cleanser is a chemical exfolliant... would make sense that I'm getting more nicks while shaving when using it because it makes my skin thinner? Or am I just imagining this?

>>18362564
you always can try

>>18359449
>only if you fuck with the zits/cysts deep in the skin
what do u mean by that?
>>18355102
> i'd run the full 12 weeks with tretinoin
I've been using it eod for 6 weeks now and the cystic acne is super brootal(acne purge started at the first week itself). Should I continue 0.05 mg tret till the end of march ? Should I consider reducing it to 0.025 now? I'm really scared that this damage may be permanent? ALso, will switching to lower dose but higher frequency (say everyday usage) give me the same benefits?

what is the picrel of skincare?

>>18364875
vanicream

how important is sun screen indoors, especially if the lighting is such that I need artificial sources of light just to read something?

Can I get a Korean product recommendation for
> A face washer
> A moisterizer
> An exfoliant (AHA + BHA if possible, been using both in pic related, loved it)
> Retinol and niacinamide
> Sunscreen

They can be mixed (even better) as long as it's efficient. Not on a budget so I can afford better products.

>>18364859
>what do u mean by that?
squeezing them hard enough will leave a scar that will last long time
there was anon many threads ago that squeezed a pimple too hard (because of some kind of stressful situation) and he got quite a scar out of it
>>18364966
you dont need it then. uv rating in your area is a good indicator if you need to wear it

>>18365255
>you dont need it then. uv rating in your area is a good indicator if you need to wear it
I live near the equator m8

I have mad nasiolabial folds and I feel they're getting worse. What ingredients should I be looking at?

Almost 90 days since using minoxidil for my beard and I see almost no new growth
I plan on using it for max a year so this shit better start working fast

>>18355543
one of the next things i want to try is something like laser therapy or microneedling. seems like you get better results from that. skinceuticals is supposed to be the goat for vit c though. i've heard good things about timeless ($25) and melano cc ($10).

>>18355940
never heard of tonymoly, haven't seen it around skincare communities. i could just be out of the loop. most use the cosrx advanced snail 96 mucin. it is hydrating and some say it's soothing for certain types of irritation. i went through a couple of bottles of it, but decided to use other products for hydration instead. some say it's their `holy grail`. everyone's different.

>>18356157
speak of the devil. how do you like the tonymoly? i haven't tried any of these. i see curel all over japan when i'm out and about, but have never given it a shot. kiehl's i've somehow haven't tried of all things. i hear it's great.

>>18356484
i used timeless for a short period. not enough to give a honest review, but could see some progress when using it. it does kinda smell like hot dog water lol, but it mostly fades.

>>18360023
you're young. it'll probably tighten back up on its own. it's not much to begin with. give it time.

>>18360320
you should look for a humectant to draw moisture up from deep within the skin and a moisturizer. torriden dive in hyaluronic acid serum is the one i use. your morning should include an spf as well.

>>18361171
around 25 you should get on a retinoid permanently. tretinoin is the default rec.

>>18362461
anything exposed to sunlight

>>18362699
0.3% adapalene is pretty strong. what are you trying to get? what options do you have there?

>>18363902
took accutane for me. you could try a clarifying shampoo like redken hair cleansing cream shampoo. it has an aha to help clear out pores. use every 3-4 days. you let it sit for a few minutes and rinse thoroughly. you should spend 2 minutes rinsing every time you wash. your hair should feel tacky and you fingers should get stuck in you hair. vanicream shampoo may also help.

>>18364750
this is correct. if you over exfoliate you can thin out you skin barrier and even remove it, so the razor nicks don't need to be deep to cause problems. you should back off the SA. a damage skin barrier is a nightmare to deal with and take a long time to repair. you should exfoliate less frequently when you start back up.

>>18364859
you should have started with 0.025 and you could move down if you want. i would probably stick out with the 0.05 myself, but that's me, my skin. i really couldn't tell you though without seeing your skin or know anything about you. you should get a consultation from a dermatologist if it is a big problem. no one on the internet will be able to give you reliable advice.

>>18365721
as you age you skin turnover slows down. you loose fat, volume, and structure/elasticity. you want to focus on hydration and retinoid to boost skin turnover.

A.M.
d'Alba Waterfull Essence Sunscreen

P.M.
Torriden DIVE IN Hyaluronic Acid Serum
CeraVe Skin Renewing Night Cream
tretinoin

>>18364984
Bump please. I'm also going to add that I'm mostly after anti-aging and pore reduction goals. I'm a 32yo male.

>>18366121
>you should back off the SA.
>you should exfoliate less frequently when you start back up.
Dammit, I have this huge bottle of SA Cleanser now
Maybe I can use it on my feet, I wonder if it will help with my fungus and calluses...

>>18364984
>>18366282
> A face washer
beplain Mung Bean pH-Balanced Cleansing Foam
> A moisturizer
Torriden DIVE IN Soothing Cream
> An exfoliant
CosRx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid
> Retinol and niacinamide
tretinoin
> Sunscreen
d'Alba Waterfull Essence Sunscreen

don't worry too much about the country of origin. good skincare can be found in other countries too.

>>18366362
it wouldn't do anything for fungus and little for the calluses. calluses usually need a bit more work.

if you put cerave or aquaphor healing ointment on and the put on some old socks to cover before bed it will help soften and remove the calluses

for the fungus, get some Lotrimin AF Liquid. if that doesn't work you should visit your gp for a prescription antifungal. shouldn't let that continue.

if you get fungus regularly, you need to look at how you maintain your feet. you need to wash with soap every day, as in hands or washcloth massaging your feet. then out of the shower you need to wait until your feet are completely dry before socks and shoes. dry off with a towel and then wait ~10 min. you can use a moisturizer. look into wool socks to make sure the moisture is wicked away. darn tough makes really great socks. try to reduce the amount of time in boots or some other closed shoe that prevents air flow. always take you shoes and socks off when indoors at home.

This is all you need

>>18364984
>>18366282
>>18366518
forgot to mention. you should reference this if specifically interested in korean skincare.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVXBlcQx349Xo0Mza3RrKsymgwxwzwjI0ju0b9OD1yY
and
https://www.hwahae.com/

>>18366518
>if you get fungus regularly...
Thanks, but I've had it since I was a teenager. I'm in my late 30s now. I've been applying various creams twice daily for years and it just won't go away. I've tried prescription creams and even the lamisil pills that are dangerous for your liver. Nothing has worked at all.

Is the type of face wash I use before applying tretinoin important? I wish to use a niacinamide face wash that has 1-2% salicylic acid to clean off my water resistant sunscreen(and help with my acne & acne skin) before applying 0.025 tret but I was wondering if it was an ok thing to do

>>18367129
I don't think it matters much. As long as:
- it can remove the sunscreen
- not too stripping
I would recommend oil cleanser/micellar water + gentle cleanser though.
But if tret is effective for you, most likely you won't need to be very careful with your routine in a few months.

>>18366591
My skin also reacts well with moisturizers that has a lot of Shea Butter.

>>18366005
You do realize minoxidil for beard is basically pseudoscience, right? Even if it actually works, not everyone's hair respond positively to minox. Should be the same case with beards. And you also have the potential side effects to consider. Just shave it clean like a normal person.

>>18364984
>A face washer
I don't think there's anything that exceptional. Iirc Pyunkang Yul cleanser has pretty clean formulation on paper.
>A moisterizer
Illiyoon/Aestura ceramide cream is popular for a reason.
>An exfoliant (AHA + BHA
Just get tret.
>Retinol and niacinamide
Just get tret.
>Sunscreen
You should read about the Korean sunscreen scandal.

>>18357119
>>18362699
I don't get it. Tretinoin is definitely available in all over EU. Even if the derms over there prefer isotret prescription.
There's also the infamous Boderm Taz.

>>18367212
k, thx

Very specific and kinda gross but I have some skin lesions and discolorations on my dick from a herpes outbreak. Are there any recommended lotions to get the skin all the same color again?

sunscreen sisters, redpill me on indoor lighting and UV-A radiation. I use one of these in my house & office and I'm covered under it for 16+ hours everyday

I use picrel and rub that on a back scrubber. I used to never scrub my back (ever) but ever since I've started a few weeks ago my back is constantly dry and itchy and it hurts to sit down. What gives? am I just scrubbing too hard? too often? why doesn't the rest of my skin react like that when I scrub it with a loofah? I shower once per day

>>18367218
I've seen it work and I thought it might work for me too
I've shaven clean my whole life. Time to try something new, something other than the green undergrow that shaving gives
Besides, mild underbite

>>18367594
insignificant tbqh
>>18367702
you're scrubbing to harshly and too often.
>why doesn't the rest of my skin react like that when I scrub it with a loofah?
>I used to never scrub my back (ever)
the skin on your back is not used to this. physical exfoliation is not good for you anyway but at least follow it up with some lotion man.

If I’m already using differin is it safe to use an AHA/BHA in addition
Also what is the general consensus on snail mucin? Snake oil or beneficial in some way?

>>18368028
>If I’m already using differin is it safe to use an AHA/BHA in addition
Don't be greedy. Get great result first from differin.
>Also what is the general consensus on snail mucin? Snake oil or beneficial in some way?
It's great for me. Skin noticeably worse when I ran out.
There's a move to push the hoax that it interacts badly with tretinoin and the like. Probably skincare brands who got jealous with Korean stuff.

any definitive guide to skin care for beginners, preferably youtube videos?

>>18341751
are there any specific shampoo ingredients that should be avoided? i'd like to be as nice to my hair follicles as possible

How do I know which cleanser to use? There are so many

Im using generic version of Cerave Foaming facial cleanser, but there are also

Cerave renewing cleanser, hydrating cleanser, cream to foam cleanser, and foaming oil cleanser.

There's also 4 different kinds of cleansers from Cetaphil.

What's the qrd? Are Cetaphil and cerave even good? If so which one is better?

>>18367222
>You should read about the Korean sunscreen scandal
https://www.drrachelho.com/blog/purito-controversy-asian-sunscreens/
I hadn't known sunscreen testing was so...haphazard.

>>18364703
>While we're on the topic: how do I do skincare for my scalp when I have hair?
G-guys?
In particular I want to keep applying sunscreen to my scalp, I don't trust my hair to adequately block UV.

>>18368117
Here you go zoom zoom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYgCCoavJ38

I end up getting a lot of dry, flaky skin around my cheeks and chin after I shave. It's been a problem for years, especially in the winter but also in the summer. I've tried different aftershaves, Nivea face cream, using different soaps, using different shaving creams, different razors, exfoliating, not exfoliating, and nothing's really fixed it.
My mom's even a dermatologist (retired), and you'd think this would be helpful, but the only advice she ever gives when I've brought it up to her is "Oh, you should use Dove soap. Are you using Dove soap, anon?" as if I haven't already done that.

Any ideas, /fa/?

So the concensus here seems to be that CeraVe products are the best? So I should just get something like this of amazon and maybe the cleanser too? Some anons told me that my £2 moisturiser might end up bad for my skin in the long term?

>>18369105
It's fine. I personally prefer French and Asian products.
>Some anons told me that my £2 moisturiser might end up bad for my skin in the long term?
Big Skincare intern.

>>18369091
See an actual derm. Not the fraud you called mommy.

>>18368777
>How do I know which cleanser to use? There are so many
Testing.

>>18368318
Honestly I don't think that kind of shampoo is that nice, or that cleansing. There's a reason they aren't that popular. I'm talking about those sulfate-free, fragrance-free, FA-safe, EU allergen-free, etc. shampoos.
You can find some of them here: https://skinsort.com/products/fungal-acne-safe-allergen-fragrance-and-sulfate-free-shampoos?product_filter%5Border_by%5D=popularity_desc

>>18368956
Wear a hat. Don't get direct sun exposure. There are hair sunscreen. They are garbage.

What's the point on brands making face wash and leave-on gel of benzoyl peroxide at 10%? 2.5% and 5% concentrations are already enough to kill the bacteria that causes acne, which means is enough to get results without sides effects, is there a specific use/case for this concentration level?

>>18369116
That makes sense. I do wear hats most of the time.
As for scalp skincare I generally use a gentle conditioner as my scalp cleanser every night, and follow it up by just painstakingly applying moisturizer to my scalp since I'm not going to be out in public and will just rinse it out in the morning. Do you guys think that's a good enough routine?

I get ingrown hairs between my thighs and recently I finally got one on my dick. They never go away if I leave them, just leave a mostly-colorless bump that I can easily feel when washing myself. I can't help but keep fucking with them and trying to push the hair out, which always leaves a small scar if I actually go mental enough with the tweezers to force them out.

Whenever I look this up they just say to do warm compresses every day and try to draw the hair out that way, but that seems like it never works for me. Is there any consistent way to deal with these fuckers?
>inb4 stop being a fatass
Im working on that

>>18369105
Cerave is good but so overpriced >>18369105

>>18360250
P-perrins is that you?!

>>18369146
Don't larp as a dermatologist.

>>18352182
>Eucerin
Good, but something like the 10% urea lotion takes a day for my skin to absorb. It works, but it's almost like nuking your skin with moisturization.
That being said, the big Aquaphor tube is the best shit ever.

Thoughts on sun sticks? Good idea or bad idea?

>>18367702
>I use picrel
irish spring is trash, very drying/irritating. recommend one of the following if you can afford it.
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/cleansers/hydrating-cleanser-bar
https://www.dove.com/us/en/p/sensitive-skin-beauty-bar.html/00011111613782
https://www.cetaphil.com/us/cleansers/gentle-cleansing-bar/302993923046.html
https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/body/body-wash/lipikar-wash-ap--moisturizing-body-face-wash-3337875751032.html

>am I just scrubbing too hard? too often?
you're physically exfoliating, so it could be too much. the winter could also be contributing to the dryness. skin is not consistent over the entire body. some areas will be different that others. for me, my calves are my driest spot. also drink 2-3L of water a day.

try using a moisturizer and apply immediately after drying off from shower.
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/daily-moisturizing-lotion
https://www.cetaphil.com/us/moisturizers/body-moisturizers/moisturizing-lotion/302990241334.html
https://www.eucerinus.com/products/daily-hydration/eucerin-daily-replenishing-moisturizing-lotion
https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/body/body-lotion/lipikar-body-lotion-for-normal-to-dry-skin-3337875549615.html

>>18341751
skincare is the biggest crock of shit that marketers have ever deployed

literally just sleep, exercise, put suncreen, and you wont have skincare problems ever unless you have shit-tier bottom 10% genetics

more so if you're a man since men naturally produce more collagen and have thicker skin

>>18371088
just factually incorrect

pretty sure I overused the moisturizer and fucked my skin up...

>>18371123
>overused the moisturizer and fucked my skin up
Not possible unless you put bleach in it or used expired shit or something

>>18371088
>put suncreen
so: do skincare

>>18371279
No, it's the cerave cream. It's non comedogenic, but I forgot that if I use too much of any moisturizer I end up breaking out

My elbows, belly and knees are a lot more discoloured than the other parts of my skin. What do I do to make the skin tone more even?

32 yo male reporting in.
Want to start including tretinoin in my routine. Should I get the thing at my pharmacist or can I order some cream online. There are brands that delivers to Belgum but Idk how legit they are compared to the stuff you get in pharmacies.

>>18341751
Thoughts on The INKEY List 10% azelaic acid serum, mostly for acne / acne marks. I'm 26 if that matters

AM
Cerave foaming cleanser
BHA PowerLiquid Cosrx
Cerave Moisturizing Cream

PM
Cerave foaming cleanser
AHA/BHA Cleansing Treatment Toner
Cerave Moisturizing Cream

>>18371433
Ask a derm. Get a prescription. You're in a developed 1st-world country. Act like it.

>>18371444
Prescription 15-20% Azelaic Acid is just so much better. There is no comparison. Not irritating too.

>>18371088
sunscreen is skincare you dummy, they're still getting your money

>>18371088
>scientists who have spent 8 years of their life and hundreds of thousands in student loans learning how the skin works and ingredients influence produce definitive research that ingredients work all just to have some faggot tourist on 4chan come in and discredit all their work
kill yourself

>>18372122
most skincare is fraudulent marketing and you know it

>>18372127
go back to putting beef tallow on your skin faggot

>>18372122
He's not entirely wrong. The entire industry is one big scam. The only things that do fuck all for anti-aging is sunscreen, tretionin, and maybe 1-2 other things to a far lesser degree.

>>18371123
>>18371323
are you cleaning before? you shouldn't breakout from moisturizer unless it's an occlusive. cerave cream shouldn't. you may be allergic to one of the ingredients. have you tried others? dimethicone is a common one people break out from. you could start there. could be anything though.

https://incidecoder.com/products/cerave-moisturizing-cream

have you tried vanicream? their ingredient list is pretty short you could try starting there.

https://www.vanicream.com/product/vanicream-moisturizing-cream

https://incidecoder.com/products/vanicream-moisturizing-skin-cream

>>18371444
please add spf to your am. it's the most important part.

https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30

>>18372157
PSA, you don't need SPF if you don't spend time outdoors in the sun, no matter what the joos say
You do need it if it's cloudy and you're outdoors however

Which is the least bad for your hair between
>shampooing every day
>shampooing every other day and using dry shampoo on off days
>shampooing infrequently/not at all but blowdrying every day
? It's gotta be one of the three for me because I look so stupid when my hair lies flat with no volume. I tried nopoo for a few months during COVID and the oil level of my hair did eventually kinda even out but I still looked like shit all the time with my hair sticking flat to my head.

>>18372337
Experiment.

Total amateur here, need only one thing in specific:
Equivalent of aquaphor in EU?
I've seen burgers praise this one in particular a lot as far as moisturizers go, looked at the contents and it seems golden
But I don't live in the land of the free, so my only options are straight vaseline or cremes with parfum, aluminum and sulfates
I just need something similar with petroleum jelly and panthenol

new to skincare,why does my face look so oily after i put on moisturizer or spf?what do?

>>18372155
>are you cleaning before?
Yes, I put the moisturizer on right after showering. Idk if it's any specific ingredient, or if my skin does not react well to lots of moisturizer of any brand. Honestly I was putting huge fucking gobs of it on. The air gets dry here in the winter, and it felt like my skin needed that much. But, I forget and re-learn this lesson every few years: too much moisturizer is worse than too little, as it causes breakouts. I'm on day 3 of no moisturizer and it's clearing up. Once it's fully back to normal, I'll go back to using the tiny amount that I should. Idk what the exact mechanism is, but I suspect my skin likes to turnover at a high frequency and too much moisturizer just ends up causing dead cells to cling on longer than they should, clogging pores and trapping bacteria and all that shit, idk...

Meme product or good?

>>18372637
not sure if this is in the eu but it's very similar
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/healing-ointment

>>18372872
ok, not great. try these
https://www.torriden.com/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=125
https://www.aquaphorus.com/products/lip-care/lip-repair-35oz

cortibalm for damaged/cracked lips
https://store.unitedderm.com/dr-dans-cortibalm.html

>>18372801
try something lighter
moisturizer
https://www.torriden.com/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=57
spf
https://www.shiseido.co.jp/anessa/en/products/suncare/perfect_uv_sm/

>>18372856
could try an SA cleanser to help shed dead cells. sounds like an allergy to me though. illyoon unfortunately breaks me out. you know you better than i do though so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>18372171
yes you do unless you dwell in a basement with zero sunlight. any amount of uv exposure damages skin. sitting next to a window will do it. takes like 10 secs to apply. not sure why people whine so much about it. it so simple.

>>18372637
Eucerin Aquaphor, which is the actual GOAT

>>18372980
>could try an SA cleanser to help shed dead cells
Lol I tried the cerave SA cleanser and it was too harsh
>sounds like an allergy to me though
It could be... it doesn't itch or anything like hives though, so idk

>>18372989
yeah, mine was a break out like acne over my chest and back mostly

How often do you guys switch the blades on a safety razor?

Hey I'm a 21 year old guy, is it too late to start skincare or am I fucked? I don't even wear sunscreen most days... Where do I even begin?

>>18373031
>it too late to start skincare
No
>Where do I even begin?
Read the op

>>18373032
Is that information all I need? Is any part of it outdated? Are there different skin types? Is Korean skincare actually good?

i got 0,05 % tretinoin after 8 months of 0,025 wat 2 expect

>>18372146
>The entire industry is one big scam.
I wouldn't say that, I'd say there is a core of skincare products that are genuinely great (good cleansers, retinol, sunscreen, etc) and those are subsidized by fools who fall for the scam products.
My cleanser/moisturizer/sunscreen combo is god tier and noticeably improved my skin even though I already eat clean and exercise. If research into improving on this is funded by selling meme products to retards, I'm not complaining.

>>18373031
>I don't even wear sunscreen most days
Start with that.
A lot of sunscreens work as moisturizers so if you want to take your absolute first baby steps, get a good cleanser and a good sunscreen. If it's winter where you live, I recommend the Round Lab Dokdo Sun Cream for your sunscreen. Ultra-light, good moisturizer, cosmetically elegant.
Step zero is find your skin type. Wash your face and wait half an hour. Then run a finger along it.
If it's oily, you're oily. If it feels tight, you're dry. If some patches are oily and others dry, you're combination. If it doesn't feel like much of anything, you're normal.

>>18372998
frequent, they're cheap. a few shaves.

>>18373031
you're young and it's never too late.

start with SPF every day. these are popular

CeraVe - Ultra-Light Moisturizing Lotion SPF 30
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30

Round Lab - Birch Moisturizing Sunscreen UVLock SPF45+, PA++++
https://roundlab.com/products/round-lab-birch-moisturizing-sunscreen-spf-50-pa

Anessa - Perfect UV Sunscreen Skincare Milk SPF50+/PA++++ (waterproof. i use for running, but is great as a daily too)
https://www.shiseido.co.jp/anessa/en/products/suncare/perfect_uv_sm/

>>18373031
>>18373113

then pick a cleanser. these are nice. wash before bed at least. i use it in the shower in the morning too.

beplain - Greenful pH-Balanced Face Wash
https://www.beplain.co.kr/shop/shopdetail.html?branduid=43&xcode=016&mcode=003&scode=&type=Y&sort=manual&cur_code=016&search=&GfDT=bm50W1s%3D

Torriden - DIVE IN Low Molecular Hyaluronic Acid Cleansing Foam
https://www.torriden.com/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=153

CeraVe - Hydrating Facial Cleanser
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/cleansers/hydrating-facial-cleanser

La Roche Posay - Toleriane Hydrating Gentle Cleanser
https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/face/face-wash/toleriane-hydrating-gentle-facial-cleanser-tolerianehydratinggentlefacialcleanser.html

>>18373031
>>18373113
>>18373117

then a night time moisturizer. these are good.

Torriden - DIVE-IN Low Molecular Hyaluronic Acid Soothing Cream
https://www.torriden.com/goods/goods_view.php?goodsNo=57

CeraVe - Skin Renewing Night Cream
https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/skin-renewing-night-cream

First Aid Beauty - Firming Collagen Cream
https://www.firstaidbeauty.com/products/firming-cream-with-peptides-niacinamide-and-collagen-jumbo

>>18373031
>>18373113
>>18373117
>>18373120

around 25 or so you'll want to talk to a dermatologist about getting on tretinoin.
drink plenty of water ~3-4L
get enough sleep
eat healthy
exercise

there are plenty of other products that you can use for specific concerns or issues. that can make it kinda overwhelming if you're new to it. if you don't have a specific skin issue though, your routine should be pretty simple.

A.M.
cleanse in shower
moisturizing spf after shower

P.M.
cleanse
moisturize

i'm going to re-stress SPF. absolutely mandatory. above all else.

>>18373084
what's your combo?

>>18372637
This is so dumb.
You do realize it's a German brand, right? Search for Eucerin Aquaphor.
If it's not available locally, import it through amazon(.de) or ebay or online pharmacies in Germany or other EU countries.
So retarded.
Are you from one of the poor shithole EU country?

>>18372801
Women uses powder for that. Anyways ask a girl irl for advice.

>>18373069
More of the same.

>>18367228
>Tretinoin is definitely available in all over EU
Not in Poland
>There's also the infamous Boderm Taz.
Has been banned in Poland in September/October last year. Will have to try importing it from different EU country (where it is still legal) and hopefully it will go through customs

>>18373132
Cleanser: Glow Recipe Avocado (only use it at night).
Morning: Rinse face, then apply Round Lab Dokdo Sun Cream.
Evenings: Cleanse, then Aveeno Moisturizer.
I live in the northern hemisphere. When spring/summer come around, I will change things up, but this fundamental formula will serve you well assuming you're similar to me.

>>18373169
My bad, anon. Looks like they have been pulling tretinoin products everywhere in EU. Even Germany used to have many more options. Looks like they only have 0.05% Cordes Vas now. And a few other combination creams mixed with antibiotics or other BS.
I wonder if it's because EU Big Skincare's lobbying.
Everything is really going to shit.
gonna kms, goodbye

>>18373183
>Even Germany used to have many more options. Looks like they only have 0.05% Cordes Vas now.
German derms won't give you tret. There are many threads about this online. Basically if you're in Germany, your best bet is to ask for tret on Dermanostic app. The prescription is obviously valid in other EU countries and Switzerland, but as the Polish anon said >>18373169, tret is simply unavailable in some EU countries even with prescription.

>>18373316
why is that? are there studies show negative effects or do they just don't like using prescriptions for cosmetic purposes?

>>18373316
>tret is simply unavailable in some EU countries even with prescription
They may not have branded tret creams, but most likely the larger pharmacies or hospital ones will have the ingredients to concoct one manually.

Does anyone have or used the equalberry toner? planning on just using this instead of AHA/BHA products

>>18372979
thank you anon seems pricey 23 pounds for 100ml in bongland but i will try

>>18373580
and spf is at 36pounds in amazon wtf

>>18373366
What else, the European skincare industry put the pressure. EU derms usually have clinics where they offer expensive peels and lasers too. Fuck capitalism.